Talkin' Baseball (MLB Podcast) - 242 | Hanging Out with Taylor Hearn

Episode Date: November 10, 2020

Rangers LHP Taylor Hearn stopped by Jomboy & Jake's Airbnb in Arlington to talk about his rookie year in the crazy 2020 season, watching the playoffs, remembering specific moments of the year, Whataburger, Luka Doncic, and more. We covered EVERYTHING in this one! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Welcome to talking baseball. On today's episode, we sat down with a guy that's much better at baseball, taller, better looking. Should I redo that? Whatever. It's perfect. All right. Tough timing on the intro there. Taylor Hearns, the guest.

Welcome to talking baseball. My name's Jimmy. Jake's sitting over here. Bug, bug dude over there. Trevor Plowf. Did not come to Arlington with us, so he's not part of this interview, but we love him dearly. We were in Dallas.

Taylor Herne came over, hung out with us for like a long time, played some Blitzball, sat down, had a chat, went over some of his game footage with him. It was a really fun time. It was a really fun time. It's a long interview. It got very just conversational at the end. I think you guys will enjoy that.

But he's awesome. Jake, any thoughts before we throw it to this? He's great. And it was, you know, We like to peel back the layers for you guys. I mean, this is what we hoped a lot of our year would be when we got a studio in the Bronx. We thought, you know, guys on road trips would bump through, say hi, kick him off to the field. So it was cool we actually got to do this.

And, yeah, we played Blitzball for like an hour. And we just talked, man. And he's a cool dude. Yeah. Better looking than you. But. Yeah, if you're watching on YouTube, I think you made him. You were like, let's put the dwarfs on the end or something like that.

What you call it? Some like that. Hobbits. Hobbits. I usually go hobbits on the end. And he was like genuine like, no, come on. Don't talk bad about yourself like that. It's like, oh, you think that? Yeah.

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What's going on? Big Dog? Doing good, man. Trying to stay warm. Dude. It's been bad, man. This is like as bad as Dallas Tech

DFW weather gets. IMO. You get one ice storm a year And then it's this. I guess we'll see in December. Usually it'll get a little worse in December.

I don't think so. But, I mean... This isn't. just cold, though, is like, gross out. Yeah. Yesterday was nasty. I was just at the dollar store buying this pen. Flex. Yeah, huge. And the, the two ladies that work in the counter were debating

if snow is good or not. And one was like, really like, I want snow, I want snow. And I was like, does it snow here? Does it ever snow here? Not really. It's more so, I tell people when you come to Dallas, you more so get ice than snow. Yeah. Yeah. Man, it's, uh, what's going to? We're in You're a TV, I won't say it. Well, actually, this is your hometown. You're kind of, you're a Dallas guy.

Arlington, Dallas, a little different. What, do you spend a lot of time in Arlington? I mean, is it, do you have like your food spots you hit up if you're on the, on the way to the office? Or what's, what's Arlington to you? You need your signature. It's more so, it's more so I don't really stay in Arlington and stay in downtown right now. So most of the good food spots are. in downtown so much.

But yeah, there's some really good ones out here. Let's see it. Herdeo barbecue. It's not too far from here. Okay. You guys got to try that out. We haven't really done good food yet at all. Why not?

Because we don't have a car and it was gross out. We're dumb, yeah. We did a car. Let's see, I'll tell you what we did and you'll probably be upset with us. We did Airway Hamburger Place. I don't know if you know what that is. Yeah, continue. Jake did chick flavor breakfast.

Chick breakfast. I mean, that's just to get it going a little bit. You can't go wrong with Chick-Flake players. Yeah, it was a play. We did have that taco place that you know. Torchies. I like Torchis. I love Torchis.

Torchis are good. Yeah, that was good. That's really all. That Torchies has been like our good food play of the weekend. You can't go wrong with that though. Either that a Chick-fil-A. And sure enough for you guys, like, how far your house is here, chick-flay is not too far.

Yeah. I was hoping, and maybe if the Dodgers win tonight, that would clear up our tomorrow a little bit. Oh, yeah. Then maybe we'll get some Dallas. some lockhart or something. Heardado. Right across the street.

That's the spot. It's one of them. Okay. I thought it's very tidy. Oh, that is a tidy signature. You mean, put some time into that. I mean,

don't look at that too close. Can we get a second try? No. People ask us to sign things now when they see us. Well, y'all are famous. What are you said? That's spring training. Like, can you sign the small?

And we're like, that's, I mean, you don't want his signature. Because look at it. He's got to work on it, I think. That just looks like you went up. That looks like a heartbrae monitor. That's my move. I think I got to get like a stamper thing.

No, wait. Wait, my biggest question is, can you fit that on a baseball? I can fit that on a baseball. Shows all the way around. Sign the clean flag. No, I mean, I can tighten it up, guys. Guys, enough about me. Doesn't write on the clean flago.

Okay. I really want to see that signature on a baseball. Okay. We'll figure that out. Do we have a baseball? It'd be like the Saltolomacia name that like rainbow's jersey. Yeah, that's my play. You're signing it and you got to twist it a little.

You just keep signing it. It's not going to be a tight sign. All right. Enough about us. Have you been watching these World Series games? When the season ends, do you tune in? Yes and no. I kind of do and kind of don't.

I mean, I try to watch them. I know game Is it game five Game five I did That was yesterday? Yeah yesterday Yeah The Kerr-Shosh that game

Yeah yeah I watched that one But the other ones I really haven't I just been Been moving around Working out as well But yeah I've been I've been trying to stay up the day with them

I usually catch Like when I get done with things I usually catch like the last like four innings Four or five innings You know when it matters Yeah The more where I talk to ballplayers The more like watching a game on TV

They're like Yeah That's not the same as having a view in the dugout or the bullpen. It's not. It's really not. And plus, I've had people ask me that have gotten tickets. And they've asked me, they're like, hey, you know, like, you want to go with me? I'm like, no, I'm good.

I'm good. I kind of want to. Why would you want to sit in a seat? Yeah. This is my office. Yeah, but it's, yeah. That's the thing I tell them. I'm like, I play to the stadium all here.

Like, I don't want to sit in the stands. Yeah. If I'm not, like, if I'm not playing in the game, I don't really want to go to baseball game. I'd rather just watch it on TV. Are any of the game? guys in the World Series? Are they like your guys? Any guys you've trained with or you've played with earlier? Yeah, yeah, a couple of them on the Dodgers. I'm trying to think. Play in the Fall League with him. I'm still cool with them. Matt Beatty. Will Smith. Yeah, yeah, those two guys for sure.

And then Tampa Bay, I know Austin Meadows and then I rented, I know Glass Now, I rented a house from him when I was in the Florida State League in Florida. Okay. I was with the Pirates. So okay. And then yeah, my other one was going to be there's a couple lefties in this series. I mean, Kersh, Snell. Are any of the lefties, I mean, what's his name, Gonzalez is shoving out of the pen for the daughters. Are any of those lefties guys that you look at for lefty stuff or are they kind of different mixes and you're like, I don't care about them? No, no, like with Kershaw, it's some stuff as well, whether that's with a slider and stuff like that. And then, you know, some of the stuff I've gotten is me and Blake Snow kind of have the same similarity, like velocity and stuff-wise as well. Like, I don't have the big breaking ball, but I have a slider.

You know, he throws his, you know, same thing somewhat. So, like, I definitely do. Definitely do. It probably, probably those two guys. Okay. I got the slider numbers here because when we had you on during quarantine, you had told us that you found the new slider grip from watching to Grom. Yeah. And someone enters really a fastball grip that you kind of just tweaked it.

Yeah. Quake it a little bit. Did you stick with that grip? I did. So, like, they actually, the Rangers kind of changed it a little bit early on in the season. And then I kind of told them, I was like, you know, this gripper is not working for me. So I kind of had it. Can I see?

Well, well. It's tough. Half a baseball. Tough when you're missing two thirds of the baseball. Yeah. Yeah. So I guess, okay. So.

Clem's leg. Yeah. I'll just do with that one. So, usually with the U-shape of the, the baseball. I'll usually put my fingers on the seam. So if like the U shape was going like this, I'll put my fingers on the seam like that. But what they had me doing was kind of more so they wanted more of like a big sweeper. You know, I didn't really mind that, but I just thought like I kind of liked the other one better. So I kept with that one that was more like the cutterish one.

And so that one, that one kind of worked for me. But yeah, just running my fingers off the seam a little bit and being able to get my fingers hands on one side of the ball. So that way it has no choice but to go back the other way. It's big. The thumb placement's kind of bigger than I always thought it was. Huge. Huge. To make sure that you're actually on both sides, right?

Yeah, for sure. Especially like on changeups, too. You know, I think that's why, like my trainer, Omar Washington, the guy I continue to work with. That's something he always taught me was whenever I did throw my change up, always make sure, like, my thumb was underneath it. Because the same thing as your fastball, you know, so that's kind of why I've always had successful to change up.

Do you look at all these numbers? Like I have here, like, your slider this year. You got a... Jimmy's becoming a nerd. Yeah, I'm a rigged. I'm worried about. I'm worried about. Do you, like, know that stuff at all?

I really don't. No one should, yeah. I really don't. We wanted to play a game, though. This isn't the game I want to play. Do you remember, according to this, it says you threw one two seamer all season? No. Do you think you did?

Do you think they have it wrong? Yeah. Okay. So, what, funny thing about that is I actually had a couple people that are watching games, and they were asking me, like, oh, my God, like, you know, I didn't know you threw a sinker. I'm like, I don't throw a sinker. They're like, well, on TV, they're always putting it as a sinker. I'm like, you know, I throw a strictly a four-seam change-up and slider.

Like, I don't throw a sinker. This is the pitch, they say, was the only sinker you threw all season. It looked like a four-season money. Also, it looked like a real nice pitch. They look pretty straight to me. Yeah. Yeah. So, okay.

Can you see that again? Minus one point for baseball, Levant. Is that to Thai France? Thai France. Yeah, I was trying to get up in the kitchen a little bit. Also says you only through one change up to a lefty all season. Do you remember that? I could, I could, I could see that probably.

It was Muncie. Should this wasn't the bomb you hit off me? I was wondering what I was going to say is this post bomb? I give him a new look. No, this was, this was a key part of the game. Trying to hold on to a lead. Is that a change? Yeah.

Yeah, I, I'm sorry. Yeah, I, I'm, I'm not. Blue misses the call. I'm trying to hold on. Yeah. You know what's funny about that? That was. I came in in that game

and first pits it was mooky and somebody else went first and they pulled a double steel on me first pitch I was kind of like oh well is that the worst because we that happened the other day

who was it McLanhan the dude on the race well it was his MLB debut MLB debut in the playoffs he comes in out of the pen double steal instantly yeah no it was Glaber just stole on him first pitch

and Glaber's not a base dealer. And then Brett Gardner gave him like a eight pitch at bat and then chopped one over his head. He ran to field it. His second baseman and him collided and that was his first three pitches in the big league. Really? The first I got batterer.

It's like welcome. Yeah. Make his debut in the playoffs and gets run over by his second baseman right away. Can't draw it up any better though. It's tough, man. But I think, I know for a fact that was probably one of, maybe four or five changes about third of him, maybe the lefty.

I know, I think he was the first one out of the run, too. When you guys played the Dodgers this year, did you walk away and being like, they're the dudes? For sure. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, from top to bottom, that lineup was just crazy. I mean, but the thing is, like, when they took away the pitchers hitting, it was basically like, I mean, there was like no holes in the lineup, you know?

It already was, like, you know, they always had a pretty good lineup. and really good. But yeah, I mean, she was going in that game. I was, I forgot who it was. It was Monty. Bellinger, our face as well. I know face Beatty. Struck him out, by the way.

What's the combo after that? He laughed about it. When I came to the park the next day, he kind of laughed about it. He's like, you know that ball was, I don't know. He called the strike. I was like, I don't know. Yeah, I was like, I just execute. I'm just playing the game.

Yeah. You know, that's like whenever I pitched in Seattle and I was facing Shet and Long and I go back and look at the video and that ball was like probably like two balls out. A ball was two out and he called it a strike three and Shetlight looked up and looked at me and I just turned around. Yeah. And then I come out the next day and we're out at BP and I'm talking to him. He goes, you know that ball was out, right? I said, I don't know. I said that that looked pretty good.

He said, no, that ball was out. I was like, no, I don't know. He called strike three. So I was like, I'll take that punchy though. Clip the corner. Yeah, exactly. I think I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I look pretty good. I think you got just enough, though.

Dodgers can beat you in like 20 different ways, too. That's why their lineups. Like Muncie's just been walking this whole postseason. And then you got, you know, sack buns. Well, it's just gross. I mean, the teams, like, they platoon Jock Peterson and A.J. Pollock, who, like, at different times, you know, Jack was the leadoff guy for this Dodgers team for a while. And, like, what he does against Rite is disgusting.

Pollock was, like, the best player on the Diamondbacks for a while. For sure. Oh, here's the other, do you remember? Do you remember? The only guy you hit by a pitch this year. Tim Lopes. Oh, first outing. This is your first outing?

Uh-huh. What batter? Oh, we got volume. Yeah. Oh, come on. I didn't. No, that's. Yeah.

Yeah. Can we slow that down a little bit? Let me see. Let's see. Volume. I don't want that on. So this is your first outing. year yeah were you feeling it a little bit I mean that's right there look yeah

that gets away a little bit yeah just a little bit so I mean you know no crowd we were talking about the fake crowd noise a little bit you're getting back out there you still got a little little jitter in the legs or yeah for sure for sure that was I mean it was just crazy because it's in a new stadium also and you know it's a tight situation when I came in I think it was runners at first and second I I think I walked the bases loaded on, you know, didn't do that on purpose and then got out of it, double play. So, yeah, I was a little bit nervous. I came in there. I talked to Woody and Huli our pitching coach. And I told him, I was like, I apologize for it. I was like, hey, I hope you guys

know, like I'm just, I'm a little amped up. They're like, no, no, no, it's fine. It's fine. We know, you know, it's been a while for you. So, like, you know, we kind of did that. But, like, man, you look like you were just out there pitch. I was like, you know, after three or four pitches, I kind of just calmed down a little bit. But, you know, I mean, And it was, like I told him, it's like, it's been over a year since I've played. So I was like, it was a long time waiting. Two different injuries, right? Yeah.

And then the debut, which was not something to remember. So it's like a lot of coming back. I was reading about it. And Trevina was kind of like took the time with the media. And it was like, I hope everyone realizes is how cool this was for her. Yeah. See your boy? Yeah.

We're real tight, real tight. It was cool of him to like kind of be like, hey, this is a cool journey that he went through. Yeah. Even though it's just in the back end. Yeah, it was crazy too because whenever he got hurt last year, we kind of rehab together down the near Arizona and we talked a lot and he was you know always asked me how I'm doing and everything I'm doing I'm good I'm like I'm just waiting to get back out there and then you know another injury happened after that but yeah he you um you know he's definitely one

the guys I'm close with him on the team for sure yeah did you like coming out of the pan I know we talked earlier before the season and it wasn't something that you were uh I didn't know it's going to happen either yeah but you but you said you're ready like I'm ready I can do it yeah I enjoyed it you know that's a it's a different side because I've never got a chance doing you know of course the first time you're coming out of the pen is in the big league so that's that's kind of interesting but um no it was fun you know i mean i think it just goes to show i mean that pitchers are just some of the goofy people in the world i mean we had some of the craziest conversations down there you know what you know we had like jesse chavez down there um trying to think who else

we have other veteran guys we had like nick goody um can't remember but it was a lot of young guys as well but like it was it was just it was fun i've never had so much fun i mean Let's open it up a little bit. I mean, what was, if there's a weird combo that jumps out or maybe. Is there a combo that's like you always got back to? A good sports debate that always came back. Like you had a Lakers Celtics thing going on down there. You guys are kind of alone.

Usually you can point at the crowd and be like, look at that idiot. Look at that girl. Now it's like you're just in an empty stadium out there. Yeah. Geez. I think we had a lot of combos. It was a lot. It was a lot.

I think just us absorbing the new stadium somewhat. Okay. But so like what a lot of people don't know is like in the home bullpen, I think of the visitors too, there's actually two TV screens in there. So we were, you know, we go in that first time and we're thinking like, oh, man, we're going to be able to get the home plate view. Sure enough, we don't. We get the one that's above center or behind home plate like at the very top.

like looking out yeah yeah like looking out so like when you're looking out like if i wanted to watch my my little cousins like a yeah but you're basically like you're basically watching it from the noseblee yeah like you were it was like very up and you could see the whole field and everything so you're thinking you're like great view of the defensive shows yeah yeah exactly but like you couldn't you couldn't really see much no so that was one thing we just kept talking about we're like you know with the you know the scandal and everything they're like yeah you know you can't be having the home play you know like this view so we're like so we can't really see you know know what he's doing

Yeah. So now it's kind of like, we got iPad and video. So it's like, oh, yeah. So like, I say,

I see that was probably it. But it was a lot of, it was a lot of football trash talking, of course. Okay. I think I took it the most because of being a Cowboys fan. Oh, man.

So, uh, yeah, I kind of wore that. What's up, dude? Ben Danucci season? I think that's what's going on now.

Garrett Gilbert, too. I think now you got to pay DAC, though. I mean, I agree. Do you, though? Ooh, now let's talk about it.

How bad is it? Like, what's the return? Well, the Cowboys are looking bad. They just got beat by the Washington football 253. Yeah. Dallin was backing up. He got knocked out. Who's the other guy in the bullpen that's giving you all the most shit?

Like that. Just with, like, football? Yeah, with football. Probably, he probably, he probably doesn't. didn't give me the most, but he texts me after we, after the Cowboys played him was our new pitching coach, Doug Mathis. Okay. He's a Cardinals fan.

Okay. So he kind of wore that. But yeah, it was a lot. I mean, I don't really say much. I kind of just like, you know, like there's, there's like two or three of us down there that are Cowboys fans that are from here and just stuff like that. But like, there's a mixture. Everybody's like, you know, I can't really talk.

My team sucks this year, you know, like, but it was a lot of fantasy football talk as well. Yeah. I'll say this. The conversations were a lot of fantasy football trades. Oh, okay. I like that. Yeah. We had a lot of guys.

We had enough for like two different leagues. Who's the bad trade guy? Because every league has it in there the worst. Bro, did you see my trade? Like they send you that trade offer and it's like, come on. You're offering me a worse running back and a worst wide receiver. Yeah. For up to the 10th.

So Lance Lynn actually took like five, six running backs, right? I mean, so his philosophy was I'm going to take five six running. That was his plan. Okay. His plan was to take five or six running backs and then being able to trade to get other pieces. Oh, okay. You know what I'm saying? So I kind of get that, but then I'm like, you know, we're going to, we're like, I'm in a, we're like.

What's the plan is playing on? Like, is he bringing his laptop around that he doesn't have a smartphone? I mean. I mean, he's got something that's going to work. Calling a pay phone to someone else. He pays someone to do it. Yeah. So, like, I mean, in our, like, division or whatever you want to call it, Art League,

it's like, it's all the veteran guys. It's like, I mean, I'm in here with, like, Jordan Liles and Jeff Mathis and Lance Lynn and then Sinsu Chu and a bunch of other guys. I'm just like, okay, well, I can't try to. Not that I'm the type that gets over on people. I'm like, okay, he really can't try to be him, you know? So then, like, after like, two weeks in the scene. he's and Michael Thomas gets hurt.

And I remember I walk in the locker room and Lance goes, hey, check your phone. I check my phone. And it's a trade offer from him. I'm like, I look at it. He wants Michael Thomas for like time early and somebody else. He's hurt from him.

You don't want him. But at the time, though, he was looking like he was going to come back in next like two or three weeks. I was like, why would I give him up? He's like, I don't know. He's like, you're looking a little thin at running back. I'm like, not really. I'm like, I got.

He just wanted to say that line to everyone in the locker. You're looking thin at running. Lance didn't check the story. He just checked everyone else's running back. Yeah, that's what he did. That's what he did. But he didn't look and see I had Rahim Morster. I had DeAndre Swift.

I had Austin Echler. Like, you know, I had some pretty good guys, too. You know, so. But you were looking thin at running back. To him. To him. To him, you were looking thin. Yeah, but now, but now, like, I mean,

we're eight games in. He's one and seven. So I think it's obvious. There you know. I think Lance knew he was going on. Walker Bueller told us that. Was it Walker? So that the Dodgers fantasy football team, the Dodgers GM, Friedman's in it, right?

Is he really? The GM are one of the guys up top. It was like. But one of the GMs, and it's like, well, dude, you actually do this for a living? Get some insight on the trades. And like, I don't know, man. That would sketch me out. Like, I'm not trading with that.

You know what? I'm not going to lie. I wouldn't, I don't, like, I wouldn't mind it if JD was in it, but I'd be a little skeptical. Yeah. He knows probably a little bit more than I do. Too much. Yeah.

Yeah, yeah. Too much. Like he may know something a little bit more that, you know, this guy's going to be out. So, hey, I'll give you him. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Or just, like, you see his trade strategy, like, the way he offers you a trade.

Like, is this how you, like, you know, call up Brian Cashman and do it? Yeah. No, yeah. Yeah, that's a good fly. I didn't even, yeah. Yeah, it would. Did he, did he say, like, if it's weird or anything or, like. He just made some jokes about it.

I forget, really. Oh, I thought it was interesting. I thought. That is interesting. Because the, who was the guy, Stripling? Stripling was in the league and then he got traded. So it's like, that's what I'm saying. That's, I'd be nervous about that, you know?

Because the Jack situation, that'd be really. Right. It would be. You think Jack just offers him trades every day? It's just a reminder. Never mind. Every day after the trade deadline, Jack Peterson then offered a trade every day. Yeah, that would definitely be some interesting conversations right there.

Did I read that the Rangers now are going to have two pitching coaches? Um, is that the Rangers? I don't know if it's, I think it's just more so like just, I mean, Doug just moved up from bullpen to main pitching coach and then a AAA pitching coach is now, our bullpen guy. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that. That was kind of weird, though. I didn't know, I didn't know they worded like that, though.

Yeah, I think I read that there was like two pitching coaches now, but maybe, I don't know. Like, they have it, I mean, I just, for more, for what I've seen. So I don't know, maybe it is, but I just know that, like, He got moved from the bullpen to head or the, you know, main pitching coach and then AAA's guy, Sags, who's going to be our bullpen guy. So, yeah. Did you spend a lot of time with him in AAA? At the alternate side I did, whenever I was there for like a week or whatever it is. Like we got some really good work done.

I have a good relationship with him and Doug as well. Did you do like exit interview stuff at the end of this season at all? Yeah, we did. We actually did it on Zoom. We were in L.A. Okay. Yeah. That was kind of weird.

Usually you're used to, like, sitting in exit meetings, and it's like this in person, you know? Yeah. Zoom call. I mean, is it kind of light? Because, I mean, you went out and you kind of did your thing this year. I mean, you know, I know when we had you on last time, Trevor Ploof was telling you like, bro, get in that bullpen, collect a paycheck,

get people out. And, hey, if you watch this World Series, it is not bad. But you also want to start. I'm assuming you still want to start. Like, in the exit interview, are you saying that? Are you saying that? They kind of, you know what, they, they know I like it, and they kind of brought it up to me and ask me about it.

They're like, you know, do you want to go back to starting? Because, like, you know, we want to see you start. Yeah. Oh, yeah, for sure. Okay. So I'll definitely, you know, get a shot in spring training and try to win a job for sure. Yeah. But now, actually, X-Meting was good.

You know, they said a lot of good things. They're like, you had a really good year this year, kind of appear in a role that, you know, you've just, you've never been in. Yeah. You know, like, you adapted. And, like, you got better as a season went on. And I'm told me, that's just my thing. like whenever the season starts like don't judge me off of what i do the first couple weeks or

whatever because i say i usually make adjustments that the season goes so but yeah yeah it was it was pretty cool like i say it was weird because you know i'm in l.a and i want to go explore and i'm doing a zoom exit meeting in my hotel room yeah for like 20 30 minutes and you know so you're like oh great like all right that's cool yeah yeah your sounds fun though congratulations and we want you to start again yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah Yeah, it was good. It was good. It was, this year, though, was just crazy, though, with the whole getting tested and everything, you know, doing the saliva test once, you know, every other day.

Was it, I feel like the normal, like, if you talk to almost anyone in society, I mean, there's good days, there's weird days, and there's bad days. I mean, is it kind of the same thing? Like, there's days you're playing baseball, it's a good time, and then there's days when you're just looking around at empty stands and being like, what? Oh, for sure. What's going on? For sure. Yeah. For sure.

And a bunch of the stadiums that we went to, I still remember, like, I'm on the mound and I'm pitching or doing whatever, and I'm walking around. I'm like, it's too quiet here. You know, it's like, I can hear what our guys are saying in dugout. I can hear what their guys are saying in dugout. So I'm like that.

I shouldn't be able to hear that, you know. Yeah. So it was kind of weird, you know, I kind of missed the, the one thing I did miss, though, was, like, hitting, like, pitching and being able to see foul balls getting hit and seeing people like scramble for them. Yeah.

So weird because, like, you know, because, like, I see cardboard cutouts get hit. I'm like, oh, dang, that could actually, like, knock somebody out, you know. Yeah. So it was kind of interesting from that standpoint. Are the bullpen stacked? Are you really close to the away? I'm trying to think. No, there's that San Diego?

Centerfield splits them. San Diego, we were, San Diego and L.A., we were stacked. Stacked. Anaheim, yeah. Because that's got to be interesting with no fans. It is. Being able to hear the bullpens really well. It is, because, like, even, even the,

San Diego bullpen, you're like, you know, there's able where fans could come see you and everything, even like in L.A. as well. But, yeah, yeah, ours aren't. Ours are pretty good far away where, like, you can still get to the other bullpen, but you just got to go through like center field and it takes like two seconds to get there. Yeah, dude, warming up in the bullpen with like fans in the middle of the game. There's some stadiums, you know, in David Cohn's book, he said that there was a scariest thing you had to do was do it at Fenway.

Yeah, that's what I've heard. That's what I've heard. because they're right on top of you. He called it like the coop or something like that. And he was like, even as a starting pitcher, they get there early to talk shit. So next year, you got that to look forward to. I can't wait for that.

Yeah? I cannot wait for it. I've seen video of David Price, Kirshaw, Felix Fernandez, and like just them warming, oh, you know, just doing their thing, just looking at video of them and stuff.

And I think it's so fascinating because all that video I see is from Boston. They're like right here on them. And I'm like, that's kind of cool. Like I kind of like that when. It's like a gladiator. Yeah, it is.

It is, you know. I love it, though. Man, I got to show you my pitches. Oh, okay. Please. Okay. I need to, I need your opinion. Because I got to strike Trev out.

So this is Big Baby David in the back alley in the Bronx. This is our office. Yeah, two pitches here. Oh. Yeah. Split finger. It works one in 20 times. It's like the Clemens drop ball.

And then there's the best. Yeah. So you think I can get Treve out with those? What's a spin right on that? Yes. Yeah, it's what we need to do. Hi. Hi.

Here, pitching ninja got me. BBD saw about 30 terrible pitches. Yeah, that was one of the biggest setups of the year. Yeah. Can you throw that ball, Zach? So I need some grips because the split doesn't work and my tiny fingers. Like, look at your fingers. Do that with your fingers and let's see the difference.

Get a little deeper in the pocket. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, you got a little deeper. Yeah. It's nasty, but it only drops correctly. like one out of 20 times, would you say? Yeah. A lot of times I just spike it.

Well, I mean. Yeah. But when it works, though. See, that was the good one. Yeah. What do they usually do? Just go, like, right into the ground. I need to release it, like, aiming at a cloud for it to have that.

Well, I'll tell you one thing from throwing a splitter. Well, I've never thrown one, but, like, I, like, messed around with one last year. And I just know from, like, talking to guys that throw splitters, you really want to have, like, a loose wrist with it. Oh. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Huge.

Raise that down. Well, you want to. You want to basically have a loose wrist with it when you throw it in like, you know, so it just spins off like that. Splitter, loose wrist. Did you see the splitter thing that Chapman started throwing towards the end of this year? Yeah, it was kind of weird. I didn't, I didn't even know he had a splitter.

Well, you're a lefty that throws gas. He, how much confidence would you have to take that to the mound? He took it to the mound. He only threw it four times and they threw it in something like the biggest that bats in the playoffs. No, not really. Yeah. Yeah. It's especially if it's, I mean,

unless unless I'm just like if I warmed up with it and I'm throwing it for strikes I'll maybe throw it once try like if I'm like in back of my mind I'm like I'm not really going to mess with the playoffs is this it? Yeah let's see

I don't know I know there's some good oh because it like knuckles a little bit it's kind of gross yeah so that's his grip on it there's some better ones though but but I felt bad for the catchers like Gary wouldn't call for it

and Chapman would shake to it but then he had like a misplay in the playoffs it's like dude I've never caught that pitch from you before I think it goes straight down too it's nasty it's just kind of crazy that he to have the confidence like how long do you think he was working on this in the background that's what I'm saying are you gonna are you going to mess with

like are you planning on trying messing with any pitches this off season or is it just improving on fastball slider change um biggest thing is just improving on that I think more so this year what I'm working on is continue fixing mechanically

so I've been doing that and I've actually already made really good progress with it so I'm actually kind of excited to see what it's going to look like come game time like when I start throwing off the mound like full full speed and everything because right now like I just like it's cleaned up a lot of stuff and like

more so more so the arm but like I mean It's been really good. Like, I've only been working on it for two weeks and we've already fixed it. Really? So now it's just continue, just trying to do it consistently. Yeah. So, I mean, I don't, I mean, maybe hopefully it would be a little velocity spike jump.

A little bit. Yeah. The biggest thing is try to get back to hopefully, you know, trying to throw 100 again. Easy 100. Well, because, I mean, like, I got buddies that are always like, you know, dude, when are you going go back to that 100? I'm like, you think it's easy? Like, I'm just going to see here and just be like, oh, here it is.

Yeah. It's like, I'm actually trying to. I was like, I just. Oh, you want that? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, you know, but it's like, I'm not the wrong with Chabman. I can't say it in reach for 102. What's your, what was your fastest you got up to this year?

Yeah. And Jimmy will fact check it on baseball. Maybe, he's on it right now. You know what? I've actually, I've actually started to, like, when I do send that out and like I look at it, I've always like, okay, it's not so if it's 98.6, I'm like, oh, it's 99. Oh, yeah. Okay. Rules of rounding.

Rules of rounding. That goes up. That goes up, man. I mean, that's, I tell myself that. Yeah. But then the coach is like, you know, oh, yeah, you're at 97, 98, whatever it is. And I'm like, 0.5, 0.6? Yeah.

All right. You got the number, Jim? No, that's kind of hard to sort. We got a 97 here to Evan White. I think you got a 98? I had a 98 in San Diego. There's a 98 on there. All right.

Probably Crawford took it right down the middle. He said that, not me. Yeah, those are baseball jokes right there. Is there a situation that you can, like, when it, this is a weird question, like a specific situation where you're like, yep, I got this guy. Like, is it like a after he swings at the slider in the dirt, you know, you could come back with a fastball? Or after he chases this, you know, okay, I have him set up perfectly. No? Never have.

And I'm being completely honest with you. That has never, ever crossed my mind. Even like, even in the big leagues. Because, like, this isn't like, now. Now, I will say this, if it's like low A or high, like, yeah, I got it. Like now when I got the like double A, triple A and, you know, Big Clay, so I'm like, no, I can't think that way because I can sit here and blow two fastballs about somebody and think, okay, I'm a blow a third one. You know, it's like, nah, I'll be ready for it. What about a spot in the zone?

Like your slider, I was watching a bunch and like, can you go low with that slider, low and away to O'Ready? Like, that was pretty nasty. Yeah. Is there a zone or with a pitch that you feel most comfortable, like putting this pitch in that spot? I used to get really, really comfortable throwing fastballs inside, glove side to righties. But now I've actually started doing it more like more arm side because I had a tendency to always try to come in there, come in there. And I got to the point where I started seeing guys backing off the plate because they knew I was coming in so much. So that way that ball could look like it's down the middle for them.

So then that kind of forced me in double A to go back to the outside. So, I mean, I don't know. It's kind of hard, but, like, honestly, I got to the point where I kind of just tried to put it anywhere. That makes sense. Yeah. Jake, show them your change up here. I mean, you just got a pronate, you know, when it comes out and just flip it over like that. That much?

Yeah. Oh, it hurts. Yeah. It hurts. So I'll probably be in the training room afterwards. Yeah. Oh, you don't want to use that. Oh, that's not good.

That's not good. That's not good. No, no. It's just Jake. I like the pro nation, though, because that's true, though. Oh, yeah. It's all, Jake. says now. That's all I know.

Pronate it. Yeah. If I was a pitching coach, I just walked past the guys and be like, hey, just pronate. Just pronate. I mean, when you think about it, you naturally do with every pitch, though. Like every fastball, every change of or, you know, whatever it is. Like, you naturally pronate. So, like, I could see that.

Yeah. You could take that. I talked to a player who said that, you know, his pitching coach, I won't name any names. He was trying to fix his curveball and he asked his pitching coach. He said, you just got to fucking yank it. He has his advice. And he was like, you're an MLB pitching coach. Yeah.

Can you give me some actual advice? Yeah. I've heard that throughout the minor leagues too with other pitching coaches. Like they, like sometimes a lot of their analogies or what they say is a little different. You know, like, I mean, I've heard some crazy ones too, but that's probably the craziest one. I mean, I think the coolest one I've ever heard.

And it kind of took me a while to think about it was when I first got into pro ball. I was always told, like, when I threw a curveball, he's like, oh, pull it down like you're pulling blinds down. I was like, I was like, Like, at first it didn't register, but then I was like, oh, oh, that makes sense. I was just like, oh, like, okay. Sure. Yeah, yeah.

But then I gave up a homeless. No, that doesn't work, coach. Yeah, I was like, let's go back to the slides. That blinds thing was bullshit. Yeah, like, yeah, it looked good. And then he, like, caught it. And I was like, ah, yeah, we're not going to do that no more. How come what a burger hasn't sponsored you yet?

Or have they? No, they haven't. Okay. Have you gotten in touch with them? No, I'm trying. Why don't you mess up? You know, the tacos for a slide, you know, Hearn hits a hunch. You get, they have something that starts with the Hearnhunge special.

If you hit 100, then everyone in the stadium gets free. Waterburger. Yeah, what's, I don't know, water burger. What's like a item, like a taco? They don't really have. The barbecue. No, but like what's in the burger. Yeah, honey barbecue chicken soup sandwich sandwich.

Honey barbecue. Honey. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. Thank you. You want to pitch that team for them? Yeah.

We have your agent's number. Yeah, we'll reach that out. We'll reach that out. Yeah, pitch that to him. How did that go down with Gibby this year? Because that was a little bit viral, a little bit fun. I think it was you Trevino and Gibby? So, yeah, so we were, I forgot, we were going on the road somewhere,

and me and Trevino got on the plane early. And I look over and I see Jeff Mathis with Waterberger. And I'm like, what? I didn't know you eat that. And he's like, yeah. And so I looked over and Gibby had one in his chair. And I was like, Trevino just happened to be right. I was like, dude, you know we got to take a picture of this.

I was like, I'm taking a picture of this. So I took a picture and he hopped in and I was like, you know, this is the same guy that's always like, you know, giving us crap for eating Waterburger. He's like, what's so good about Waterburger? You know, like, you know, like, you know, and I asked him in Houston, I was like, when's the last time you had Waterburger? He goes, ah, it's been some years. I was like, 10 plus years probably. I was like, the food's changed since then. He's like, he's like, you know, it hasn't been 10 plus years, but it's been a while.

And I was like, what's a while? Five plus? It's like probably so. I was like, yeah. So like your taste buds don't even know. Give it a chance. Yeah. Yeah.

So now no, what was in his chair wasn't really like water burger. Like, oh, it was. It was like a sandwich but didn't have like cheese or anything on it. So I'm like got to get them some like this stuff like the, you know, the honey barbecue, chick strip sandwich or, you know, it's just something like their breakfast or whatever it is. So, you know, because I'm like, you know, being from Minnesota, I'm like, what do y'all have up there? You know? Yeah.

Juicy Lucy. Yeah, that's what I think that's what he said. I was like, which they have everywhere. They just call him a cheeseburger most places. Yeah, I was just like, what do y'all have? It's like, we got Waterburger here. Like, what do y'all have? He's like, oh, you know, juicy or whatever he said.

I was like, that's it. What else do they have that? They have Cravers. I lived in the Midwest for a little bit, but I think that's more Illinois. No got anything. Yeah. Yeah, and then like he was told. Well, all our twins fans.

If Trevor was here, he'd know. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Or he'd pretend to know to make twins fans happy. he'd make something up. He would? And then he'd be like, oh, wait, no, that was somewhere else.

I don't know. And then he crowdsource it. But then Gibby went out and he shoved the next day, right? He went complete game, Shuddy? Yes. C.G. Seven. So why doesn't that go on your baseball reference?

Because that's kind of... You would think so. Yeah. It's an assist. You would think so. I used to tell the scorekeeper in hockey all time, like, I actually yelled pass. Okay, I can't go to that extreme.

I need to be on the scoreboard here. He wouldn't have passed it to him. He wouldn't have scored if I didn't say, like, pass, pass. Yeah. Give me a verbal. That's what I have verbal assist. Can you mark that down as a verbal assist, please? Verbal assist.

I don't, you know, I don't know. Because me, like, I know me and Trevino, I mean, right when that game ended, we went over to him, but I went over to Trevino and I was like, you know what just happened, right? He's like, what? He had Waterberg for the game. He's like, oh, snap. That's right he did. And I was like, so that's it.

I'm like, so he can sit there and talk about how bad it is, but look, it helped him throw a CD. You know, I made sure to make it made it known on social media that any kid that wants a down in Waterberg, I'm like, you know, big, yeah. Promote, Herne-Hunge. Like McDonald's like, Herndhuntch, yeah. Yeah, McDonald's and cutting it, so it's more water before pregame, you know. Then Gibby had the, what a chicken sandwich was. Oh, God. I mean.

Jesus. Then you almost kick him off the. Oh, yeah. You know what? When he said that, I had to cut it off. I was like, you know somebody else. Yeah. because she was like, you know, she was like, yeah, make sure, you know, we know you and get good content. I was like, let me go ask him about it.

You know, he's like, well, what a chicken sandwich. You know, my face. I was like, okay, I'm going to go out of here. I was like, I don't know. So the media, someone in the Rangers media came up to you and was like, hey, we're going to mic you up today? Or how did that go down? Yeah. So it was.

And were you looking at everyone else in, you know, the locker room and being like, they're going to mic me up. Yeah. Not you guys. No. Clover was like, I'd like it. And everyone was like. you don't talk we're good on that

I'm not gonna listen to you breathe for three hours oh man no she yeah Danny she found me and we were outside and she was like hey like a lot of the fans want to see you mic up like you were voting I was like oh yeah it'll do it in a heartbeat

so I go out there and I get miced up and my plan was to Try to do it before I went out for stretch, but, you know, I don't, she wasn't out there yet. So I'm out there stretching and everything. And then she's like, okay, you can come over here. So I come over there. I'm trying to be discreet about it. And so everybody's like, oh, he's got a wire.

He's got a wire. And I'm just like, oh, all right, well, never mind. So, but no, that was fun. I was like, please let me know when y'all guys want me to do that again. I was like, that is fun, you know? And then, I mean, a lot of people asked me about me and Trevenio up pretty tight because, like, you know, I got on his case pretty good. And I was like, oh, yeah. I was like, he needs to be known about that rash of his.

I was going on. Been there. Yeah, because he was so, you know, you know, people try to be all discreet about that stuff. I'm like, no, we can let's have people. Let's have it. Let's have it. Oh, yeah, for sure. Was there anyone when you were getting miced up that you're like, oh, can't talk to him today?

Like, you're like, the people don't need to hear about Lance Lynn putting icy hot on his balls today. Or maybe they do. You know, I'm going to ask him if he does. Clemidge used to do that before he pitched. Did he really? Yeah. Yeah, Roger Clemage did he took the mound. God.

Yeah. Kind of a psycho, huh? That's number two on my pitching coach list. It's pronate. Yeah. He's hot the balls. Yeah. Not the baseballs.

Execute. I don't know. I don't know if I could pitch for you then. No. We'll figure out. Not many can. Yeah. Not many make it through.

Yeah. There wasn't really one guy where I was just like, you know, I can't really mic him up. But I tried to, um, there was one guy I wanted to try to get miced up was Joey Gallo, but, you know, those guys were, you know, they were doing the outfield stuff. So there was one, there was one I wanted to get on there, but he was busy doing stuff. I was going to go talk to Derek Dietrich.

Love him. I was going to go try to talk to him. How is he? Because we, we see it from the outside world. And he went, like, when he was in Cincinnati, he fully went for it. He was in the beekeeper outfit. He was going to the point it was fun, but we were also like, how much is he forcing it?

Like how much is he, is he trying to go out of his way too much to do stuff? Is he, he's just a good dude having a good time or what? No, he doesn't force it. That's who it is. That's him. It's awesome. Good. That's awesome.

I mean, the dude, the dude is hilarious, first off. And he's, he's one of the only, like, few position players I've ever seen that actually, like, works out, like, every day. You know, mostly, like, position plays work out with, like, twice a week, maybe, or just whatever it is. This dude, like, was in there every day. I mean, I sit there and go do some, like, stretch mobility and stuff like that,

and this dudes up here, like, curling 70s, 75s, 80s, and, you know, single-armed bench press and 1-10s. I'm just like, remind me to work out before you coming. I can't do that. Like, I'm not trying to hurt myself. But, yeah, he's a, dude, he was awesome. Okay. Love, I love Derek.

We got to get him on the list, then. Yeah. Have to. I love him. He's funny. Okay. What was the vibe like after the whole Tatis? Um, 3-0, Grand Slam, you know, became a much bigger story than it ever should have.

Yeah. It was weird. It was mostly between two coaches, but what was the vibe in the clubhouse for you guys? Um. Was it a thing before it was a thing? Like, before it hit the postgame press conferences and all that, like from the Grand Slam until the media sessions. Right. Was it a topic of conversation amongst you guys at all?

Honestly, really wasn't. It kind of seemed that way. I mean, I mean, I think. I think with some guys it was. But like, you know, I guess being in the bullpen, you kind of, you know, we're so far away from them at times. But to be honest with you, I mean, there was some guys that obviously didn't like it. And then there were some guys that were just like, you know, it is what it is or just whatever. So it was kind of hard to say because I've actually had a couple people asked me about that.

I'm just like, I don't know. I was like it was kind of mixed, you know. So it was kind of hard to sit there and say, yeah, everybody was like, oh, yeah, don't do that or, you know, whatever. So it was kind of mixed. I'd say that. I mean, it's good for the sport in a way. I mean, Padres went off on it. It was just weird.

It was weird that, well, what, what, Jace? Tengler and Woodward. Yeah. Yeah. Whatever. Yeah. You care if a guy swings three on you? Me personally, like, I mean, it doesn't really bother me.

I can see it in the moment. I see it more so, like, okay, just for me, I more so see it as I put myself in that situation because I got behind the count. So you have the, you know, in the big leagues like you, you know, they're known like the biggest thing is like, you know, they're known for hitting mistakes. And it's like if I go three on a guy, of course I need to get back in the count. So if he hits it first pitch, I'm like, well, you know, it's my fault because I shouldn't have been in that situation. It should have been an 0-2 count or, you know, it should have been a 1-2 or just whatever it is. Yeah.

You know. Yeah. You probably love when they swing 3-0 and foul it or pop out. Oh, my heart drops every time that happens. Every time. Blake Snell's pitching tonight, right? Yeah. He's never giving up a 3-0 hit in his career.

Really? Yeah. I have a dumb segment that I do. Most stats that exist but don't matter. What else? What else you got? There were some weird ones. You got any on me?

I could find it out. I mean, the one change up to a lefty. Yeah. Just kind of look at the splits. Let's see, I'll tell you what count you're really good in. Okay. Probably it'd be one-two count. maybe 1-2 and 1-1.

All right. What was the other one? It was that all of Julio Urius' home runs, basically, like 80% came on the first three pitches. And like 50% came on the first pitch. This guy's jumping them. You know what? You know what next season? I need to...

Do you want me to send you some stuff like this? We'll give you... Because I would like to know that stuff. We call them Jimmy Littix. Yeah, Jimmy Littins. It just don't work... No one cares. Okay.

What was... It wasn't part of the Urius thing that everyone was 6-1? 26 and all during 6-1. That was just me. So again, there's another layer to the analytics. Yeah, I mean, we could dice up those stats. That's that step further. That's the next step.

That's where you want to go. That's where you want to be. Keep that. I don't want to sit here. Don't send that to me. I'm like, I don't want to sit here and be thinking about, okay, how old is he 27? So then I got to look in there. Coach, when's his birthday?

Yeah. I was trying to find. I was trying to find. I was trying to find a connection like part of the country. So he's only given up five home runs, you know? So I want to be like when Helio Urius faces guys from south of this, like Mason Dixon line, he just destroys them. But they didn't add up.

Damn. Sometimes the analytics don't work. Yeah, you know. You're actually pretty good. The 01 is the count you've given up three hits in one single count. So like I just go most hits in account. Oh one, two hits, two one, two hits, three one, oh two. Let's see, let's see.

So you're not seeing your Jimmy Lytics aren't bringing up an obvious flaw? Yeah, it's small sample size. Yeah. Okay. Pitchers, hitters, usually it's 3.1, 2.0. Right. But it was, let's see. There's a, okay, 1 O counts, 100 batting average.

So if a guy swings at your 1-0 pitch, be a little weary. It's the sample size is two-plate appearances. So don't take it to heart. Right now. Right now. It's something to look for it. Yeah, I need more. Oh, no, it's one hit by pitch and one hit.

And when the one-o, when the app bat ends on one-oh. I want a breakdown of when I'm facing guys and like what part of the state crushes me more. Okay. Okay. You know what I'm saying? East, west, south, whatever it is. We are all over there.

That's my type of stop right there. Please. Like before us start next year or something, I'm going to ask you, like, hey, they got seven guys from the West Coast. Do they crush me? Yeah. What do they do against me?

The four players from Tallahassee, Florida, a rake against you. You got two home runs against, right? So this is a real small sample size. Max Muncie. He's from Texas. Right. Uh-oh.

Yeah. and J.P. Crawford. From California. Right. So no one from the East Coast has ever taken deep. Okay. So two lefties clipped you this year. Yeah.

You want to talk about that? Sure. Go ahead. Okay. Well, Crawford was a hangar, you said? Yeah. Muncie. Did Muncie pimpe it off you?

He likes to, he's good at that. I think he did. He's a little fat. He's a little fat. We? All right. So let me say this. So we've been live streaming the games.

And we have this awesome community that, like, watches all our stuff and does everything with us. And so we've been watching the World Series games. And Muncie did something. And someone commented. Someone commented that. They just said, Max Muncie, comma, a little fat. And it's been killed us.

You're the fourth person to have that. same reaction. We've told a lot of people. Because he's incredible. He's an amazing ball player. Yeah, he's great. Play second, first. I think a little third.

If you need to, he's been raking, but. I'm a big fan of Maxx. It's just a little. There is. Let's see if he pimped you. Oh, here we go. He probably did. Three one count.

So there you go. That's the hitters count. When you first came on, we were a taster podcast. We want guys to taste themselves. Now we're bringing everybody down. Good, please. So here's the home run. Fastball up.

Yeah, we'll see. Yeah. It looks like he kind of... I mean, that's a big home run, too. They were only up one. You thought he'd give you a more. Who isn't right there? Gallo? Yeah.

He's got to snag that. He's got to bring that back. He's tall enough. He gave it to the try. Some might have been watching Major League. So no right he's got you this year. Does that give you a sense of pride at all? Because, I mean, I feel there's also...

We're seeing it in these playoffs, and I don't know, just lefty, righty splits and everything that comes up that, like, if you can get both sides out, well, that's starting pitcher. That's not, you know, bullpen, go get belly, go get Monty, that's... Yeah.

Yeah. With more of a sample size or more, more, you know, I guess, of a feel of it, I'll be able to get it a little bit easier. But yeah, Ritey's, I kind of can do a little bit more damage with Ritey's because, you know, I see them more and stuff like that. So I was kind of, yeah, that's what it is.

But with lefties, but with lefties, I mean, that was kind of their thing was they were, you know, they put me in situations where I did face lefties a little bit more. So like I was cool with that. But, you know, it was a little more than I'm used to seeing like three righties and that lefty, you know, not just coming in. And be like, okay, here's your first lefty. And I'm like, oh, God, you know, at times. But, but yeah. Because, you know, I mean, if you ask any left-handed picture, like, we always are, I wouldn't say, little timid, but you kind of take off a little bit more when you face lefties,

because you're not used to facing them, because you're so used to facing a lineup with eight righties, just whatever it is. You know, so, so yeah, it's nothing against the lefties. But, like, you know, I think I try to press a little bit more with lefties because I know for a fact, you know, left on left, they want to try to cheat and try to pull the ball. Yeah, a lot of two pitch. That's what Talkman told us. Because he's a lefty, he was really good against lefties.

He said, well, they eliminate a pitch. So 100%. I just guess. Yeah. I got your strikeouts up. Oh, do any of these names? Do you remember being like, okay, that was dirty?

What's your strikeout of the year? Or do we, could we have like a couple nominees and we'll vote? Go ahead. Well, you tell us, like, which ones do you think we should be looking at? So these are the guys you got twice. Evan White, Walsh, Kana? Kana, I never remember.

Let's see. Hosmer, that's a name. You got Karea. Luriano, that's a good time. Kerea. Let's see the Beatie one. Okay, so this is Buddy on Buddy here. Tell us what we're about to see.

I mean, I think it was... Oh, too. I think it was fastball away. So he tried to tell... He kind of, like, stood there for a second. He tried to tell you that wasn't over the plate. I mean, that's... Well, because, like...

Yeah. Because I think, I think the way Terino's glove went, it went more out. So I think that's why he kind of thought it was... I mean, that's right there. Yeah. Early candidate for strike out of the year. I'm curious to see what you guys think.

We got to find one on a... On a slider. Okay. That's sliders. slider of the year. I've got some of the, you've got some legit database over here. This website, like MLB doesn't, like,

tell people that this exists for the public, which they should. It's pretty cool. Makes it much easier to find video. Well, I'm coming down to the Correa and Luriano on sliders. And this is just going to be the third pitch. So what are we got here? We've got another O2.

So I've been getting real mad at these playoff pitchers for putting O2 fastballs in the zone. Right. Because we have a lot of O2 hits this postseason. Like a lot, especially from the bottom of the order, like home run, 02 pitches. So if you go 02, are you thinking like, hey, let's expand the zone, let's get him to chase. You just diced up Beatty with a nice fastball. Most of the time, if I think the situation calls for it, like, if I feel like, you know,

they haven't really touched the fastball, then yeah, for sure. Like, I think 1A.B was against Joe Adele. And I think I threw three fastballs by him. I think that's what it was. Because I was just like, he didn't touch it. I was like, just do it again. Do it again. Yeah.

Is the thought process their difference starting and relieving? Yeah. Because starting, you're like, I need quick outs. Yeah. Relieving, who cares? Yeah, way different. I'm more so trying to attack guys. Like, I'm always going to be attacking guys starting and relieving,

but relieving is just more so like, I guess, trying to get them out early. I don't have time to see you and try to set stuff up. All right, here we go. O2 to Correa at home. That's the pitch I was talking about the back door. That's the pitch I like that. That slider back door is nasty.

Yeah. Let's watch it again. Yeah. And see, that's one thing I worked on. That's a weak punch out by that op. Yeah, that's one thing I worked on with that new slider grip is when I try to do it back door, I don't want it to move that much. I want it to be late in just a little.

That was like Power Rangers. It's morphin time. We need a little more from blue there. I'll fix that one. I'd say, let's go Loriano. I'm over Vocabok. We like Loria. We do like Laura.

Two, two. Base is hucked. Okay. Oh, okay. You remember this? Yeah. So you're down seven, but bases loaded. Did you come in to a mess or did you?

Yeah, it was basis loaded. And they brought you in? Yeah, and I think I walked. I walked one guy, but like that was, I'm not going to lie. Like, Face in Oakland was fun and it was tough because they are a scrappy team that just fouls pitches off and they just got hitters, basically. So 2-2 here. Look, your pitch counts up there, 31.

Yeah, yeah. Like I said, I think, I mean, he fouled off, I think, four or five good pitches, too. From the set. Okay. So that's a different slider than that's a little bit more up. Yeah. The Oakland Houston series, did you think, like, did you have any lean on that? Did you think it would be five games?

Did you think Oakland was a better team? Because, I mean, Houston, they've got all those names, and they're so talented and they're so good, but they kind of stunk up. They didn't stink this regular season, but... I like that one, by the way. That's the same spot as the one to Correa, basically. That's a little bit more. I'd do a little bigger one with the lefties.

Voguey. Yeah, I mean, that's just a fucking nice pitch. Yeah, he didn't like that. You got them traded. Yeah, you know. I mean, I was kind of expecting a good thing because after facing... both of those lineups, you're like, man, like, you know, like, Houston's pitching got to be on because, you know, facing Oakland, like, they, they don't, they don't miss mistakes, you know, so, um, yeah, I was, I was kind of pumped up for that one. The one I was curious about, and I didn't get, and I'm glad I'm here because I'm going to ask him about it because I got some friends from the other side that wanted me to ask him. Okay. Um, about your Yankees.

Mm. Mm. I had, because I got, uh, I got a good friend of mine, uh, uh, Matt, who's an Astros fan. He loves you and your part, you know, in the show and everything. So he's like, hey, make sure you ask him about, you know, what happened with his Yankees. And I'm like, I'm like, dude, we didn't make playoffs. I'm like, I'm not going to say in trouble. No, I mean, I just, the Yankees, man, they're injured a lot, losing Severino and Paxson, like, sucked. But even then, they're, the way they build their pitching staff is just, like, last year, it doesn't work.

And I think the rays are showing that doesn't really. work and the Yankees just keep doing it. Like you need, so you need starters. You need your fourth and fifth starter or even your third to go to the bullpen in the playoffs. You need Corbyn to come out of the pen on his throw day. You need David Price to go to the pen. You need Evaldi to go to the pen.

So you bolster up the pen with the Yankees and the raise have done. It's like, we'll have three starters and we'll just use our bullpen every night. You gas them out. Yeah. The raise right now, their top relievers are gassed. And the Yankees, they lost Tommy Canley. Yeah. They're not pitching.

They just were tired. They're all just tired. I think one World Series that really just always sticks out to me is the Nationals, because they had Scherzer, Strasbourg, and Corbyn. And I remember telling people that when they signed Patrick Corbyn, I was like, that's all they need right there. Yeah. I was like, in order to make it in the playoffs and make a deep run, you got to have three.

You can't have two horses. And they used them on their throw days. Yeah, absolutely. He got to use. Anabal had a pretty good player. He had the best start, right? Yeah. And they had the lineup with it too.

Yeah. It was perfect. The Yankees lineup isn't as dynamic as a Dodgers. It's deep. Yeah. But it's not as if they, if a pitcher finds out, you know, this is working for me. It'll work on majority of the Yankees batters. Whereas the Dodgers, you got a lot of different looks there.

You do. And a lot of different people trying to do different things. They need more balance. They need to keep DJ and then they need to get another bat-to-ball guy. Who do you think? Like Brantley's the other one. that's available right now, but they're not going to spend money. God, he's not a fit.

The dude's a tough out. Did you get it? Did you face him this year? Yeah, I did. He had a, I throw a slider against him. He hit it to left field for double. He's gross. He's, but like, he's a tough out because, like, you, you sit there and, you know, I read

hitters and I'm trying to, you know, do stuff to try to get an reaction out of him or just see what they do when I do this here or that. And he just like me, like me. And I'm just like, come on. I'm like, dude, give me. me something. I forget, Pluth always says, and I forget if we were talking to another hit or another pitcher, but they were just, they both at the same time almost said like he never has a bad swing.

Never. Never. Never has a bad swing. Never does. So you want a one-o slider there on them. Yeah. That was a little loopier, sweep beer one. Yeah.

Oh, no, that's the fast. Yeah. So then what? That was a foul. And then what do I have wrong here? Oh. Oh, I just have fastballs. Oh.

See, this website's tricky. Jimmy Liddix. There you go. Six, six pitch at bat. Singles. Okay. So you went ball, foul, foul. You had him one, two.

Yeah. And then he didn't bite on these guys. No, he didn't. He's good. But he's that bat to ball scale. He's very good. Very good. Oh, blue.

Okay. So we're getting jobs. Oh, low. See, I wanted him to chase that. He chases that. It's a nice pitch. I wanted him to chase that so bad. And then this is, so you went,

full count. That's just going with that pitch. A lot of hitters don't swing like that on that pitch. But like I had no choice but to tip my cap to him because I'm like any other hitter either fouls that off or misses it because it's a high slider. Yeah, he goes away. And that's one thing about him is like, you know, facing him and reading reports and stuff on him.

He's like, man, you know, he's a tough out. Like, you know, he hits everything, you know, where the ball's pitch, you know, he hits at Apo pools it, just whatever it is. Now let's watch you blow pitches past Adel. Okay. Okay. Tasty. We're back to being a tasty.

We got to balance it out. We tried it out for a while. It wasn't us. This is a nice setup. This is what we were supposed to have. Then Corona. Yep. Do you face him at all in the minors?

No. There's Lance. Lance. Go back to Lance real quick. Oh, oh, yeah. I mean, you see that. I did get him miced up, though. I did ask him.

I said, How long has he been growing the beard out? He's been growing it out since the beginning of the year. That's a, yep, 9-7, yep. Then this is the- So that's when you're just saying, I'm bringing that back. Yeah, I was a little. Yeah.

Yeah. See you. Your motion's easy. Yeah. Yeah, that's, I wish you would have told that to some of the coaches I used to have. They used to get so mad at me because, like, they would, like, when I sit there and be throwing bullpins, throwing a game, are like, you know, they would think I wouldn't care.

Like, are you even caring when you're up there pitching? Like, they want you to go, Tim Lunds to come on? Like, they want me to be, like, more aggressive. Yeah, and I'm like, that's not me. Yeah. You know, I'm like, I'm like, I'll just be myself out there. They're like, well, you know, it looks like you're just pitching just like, here it is. I'm like, oh, 97.

What do you want me to get? I'm composed. I'm just like, what do you want? Like, I'm being myself, when I'm out there on the mound, I'm just in my element, just taking it pitch by pitch, not even thinking. And I'm just like, you know. Those guys must see Bruce St. Garterol pitch and just, like, cry.

Or something. Like, I had one coach tell me, you know, I'm not going to say who it is, but. Say it's me. I had one coach tell me. He was like, and it's something that I've always been hearing. And it's just like, and I know you guys probably heard it too, but they're always like, be a bulldog out there on the mound. I'm like, that's not me. Yeah.

That's not me. That's just, I'm just a guy that goes out there, just goes about it by my business. Don't show any emotion and just, you know, whatever it is. I mean, shoot, like, I mean, I mean, I mean, I got my family, you know, they're real big football, basketball people. So whenever they watch baseball, they're like, yo, why don't you do something when you strike somebody else? I'm like, if I strike somebody out with one out, you want me to get all riled up.

And the next thing I know, I'll get two home runs hit off me. And then what do you want me to do then? You know, so it's just like, I don't, I've never, never been a guy that gave emotion. Even when I played, you know, football and basketball, like I never did that. Do the Rangers have like a headspace coach? I know the Yankees have a, what do they call it? Like a mental coordinator? Mental coach, but like finding the headspace that's right for you.

Like I had a guy that I played hockey with that he needed to be angry. Like he would like get himself into like an angry moan. I'm like, dude, that sucks. Like A, that's exhausting. B, like I don't want to be around you in a locker room right now. Yeah. And for me it was like I needed like a pop song stuck in my head. Like a dumb, stupid like Disney song and I'd just be singing it and playing.

And that was more like my ideal headspace. Wow. Yeah. Jake plays angry a little bit. I play angry at myself. He looks like that type. I play angry at myself. Jake would make a, I mean,

we're going back like freshman baseball, but Jake would make a diving catch to end the inning one specific example. And, you know, you want to celebrate with him. But what he would do is sprint from center field to the dugout. Time to hit.

It'd kind of be like chasing him. Time to hit. No, and then he'd fill up the water and then just dump it on his head. It's time to hit. Water dripping on his head. At that point, it's like, there was never a doubt

I wasn't catching the ball. We wanted to like tap you up. Let's just head to the dugout and hit. It's an easy game. I play with guys like that though. No, I'm the guy like if I'm playing hoops or something and if I miss the open three, like, I'm like, fuck, Cox.

I'm that guy. See, that's just, that's not me. I've never been that type of guy. Does it just, does it not happen? Or do you, have you trained yourself to be that way? Yeah, always have. Because, I mean, I credited it a lot, but I took my major. in college and mine was psychology and sports psychology.

Okay. So I really took that stuff to heart. But I kind of just, you know, I kind of got to the point where just I just figured out what work for me, you know, and it was just more so just continuing to be that same guy that I am on the field that I am off the field. Yeah, it's exhausting to be something you're not. But like, but like, like, pump up, like stuff that gets me riled up and everything like that.

Like, I mean, let me see if I can pull it up. You know, me calling myself a cock-sucking loser didn't really work for me either, so I'm still kind of finding my way. Try to compliment yourself right now. So on my pregame height, a little fap. Yeah, my pregame height, I got bone crushers. I got Braveheart. Okay.

Crime mob, future. Bone crusher. Uh-huh. Meek Mill. Outside of the blood. So I got stuff that's like that, that like gives me ready. You know what I'm saying? Starting pitcher, get to choose the music for the Rangers?

Oh, like, like warm-up music? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Who's got the worst? Oh. It's like, what's Lance playing? A little bit chick-fry.

His is, no, his was, um, uh, was it, life of a country boy, is that it? Yeah, I think that's it. Yeah. He doesn't even know what that song is. He just read the title and he was like, there's it. His was good. I think Jordan Liles, his was pretty good. Yeah.

The one I worked with was Gibby. And we, we, we kind of worked with him because I, you know, I asked, then we were in where we were at Arizona and he was going to end the season his last album was going to be at home and I was like

what's your favorite artist and he was like oh bro I was a big wheezy guy I was like all right end the season on wheezy and he was like I don't know I was like just do it

just do it because I was lucky he trying to be like change your song that's the subtle yeah that's what I was sure yeah but then I was like all right

I was like well at least think about it sleep on it yeah you know when are you throw He was like, oh, you know, I think it was like Tuesday or something. I was like, all right, well, sleep on it. Yeah. When we get back, I'll bring it up again.

So then I kept asking him, like, are you going to do Weezy? He's like, I'll think about it. And then he didn't do it. But he still went out there and shoved. I said, did you at least listen to Weezy? He goes, yeah, pregame. He goes, yeah, I did. He said, I'm sorry, I didn't change it.

I was like, next year, we're changing it. Yeah. Watch his song now. Not good. Not good. Let's just say, like, you know, it's more so like whenever I hear his song, Like, I'm always cheering for him. I'm like, I'm going to go out and chill.

This isn't doing it. Hey, okay, give you, here we go. Coolest thing on the Yankees is Tanaka warms up to his wife's song. She was a singer, right? She was a pop singer in Japan. Right. So he warmed up. But, like, no one knows because it's Japanese music.

Right. And, like, no one talks about it. That's pretty weird. It's kind of a flex. Yeah. It'd be like if she was, when Jeter was dating, like, Mariah Carey. Yeah. If he used her songs as he stepped up to the plate, but less weird vibe.

See, the thing is with that is If I dated a pop singer Okay. Who are you eyeing right now? Who are you following on Instagram? I'm going to bring it up. No, my biggest thing is I need like, if she was like, you know, hey, like, would you mind warming it up to one of my songs? I'd be like, sure, let's go through them.

Let's listen to them. But if she don't have something that's like, I was like, I need something that's going to be bumping because I said, I listen to music to get me right before the game. And I said, I always bring music out there to translate and bring it with me. I don't want to sit here and, you know, doing some soft song or something like that. Like, give me something that's got a good beat to it, you know? I think her music is like for, like, it was like little kids.

Oh, it was? Like it wasn't, I think it was like, you know, so it's like a little ironic, a little funny, a little like this is my wife. I also think that when Matsui came over, he didn't choose songs. So maybe the Japanese players, it's just not part of their way they, like, mentally prayer. What in Matsui, they would always just play Billy Joel. And that was just the Yankees PA being like. I'll just play Billy Joel from that.

He chose that. One international player I love when he came in, I can't remember his name, but he was a closer for the Red Sox, and he came out to Sandstorm, I think it was. Oh, good. That's who was it? Yeah, I can't remember.

But, like, I mean, everybody in Finway was getting hype, so, like. It's like, Kogi? Yeah, it might be. What does Chapman come out to? What is the song? It's, um, Fireman's coming? Oh, weezy.

They do a whole thing. thing with like the cute with all the fire yeah fire do you know i don't know i'm blanking right now oh come on yankee guy come on that's tough yeah i more know like the atmosphere of it than the actual right if i heard it i probably know but i don't think i know the name's making me man you know one thing i am looking forward to about playing in yankee stadium is hearing them here in the is it the bleacher creatures yeah yeah the uh the roll call yeah yeah i can't wait for that but like but like one thing one thing I've always wanted, like, obviously I wasn't playing when they were, you know, playing, but, like, I wanted to hear him say Derek Cheater and A-Rod and all them guys.

I always thought that was awesome. I love it. People kind of rip on it now because it's been around so long that they think it's corny, but when you got to remember, like, the original bleacher creatures invented that. And to have the players acknowledge them at the time was huge. It was awesome. Like, it's like, oh, shit, you can hear us? Yeah.

And then the players started doing their signature waves, which I think ups the corniness a little bit, but it's still just fun. I know Curtis Grannison, like, tipped his cat to him. I know Grit, did Gardner? Did he flex-flicts? Swisher did the Swisher salute. Right. There were some pitchers that would do it.

Like David Cohn and David Wells would actually let them share the pitcher's name, and then he would step off and wave. I think it was David Cohn. Now, that's, like, that's something I do. Yeah. I would, I would for sure acknowledge him. Yeah. You know, it would be cool if other teams did it,

but I think Yankee fans would be like, you stole that from us. Yeah, basically. But it's cool. When you're at the stadium, you can't always hear it on TV. You're at the stadium and you see it all happen. And the fun players are the ones that let them chant for a little bit. I love that.

Some wave it off, like, right away. Really? Yeah, yeah, because, like, the pitch is coming and they're just like, it's like, dare. I think he'd let him go. But some, some just, like, is right away. So would they just basically keep going until they acknowledge them? Mm-hmm.

Yeah. That's how it started. And, like, I kind of a gamble that they would ever do. See, if I play for the Yankees, like, I would tell them, like, do it. Like, do me first. Get it out the way. Yeah. Because, you know, I'm not saying I wouldn't acknowledge you.

I'm like, I want to be focused on. Yeah, I want to get going. Yeah. I wonder when they did, because they don't do pitcher and catcher. So I wonder when they did it. Yeah, I'm sure catchers a lot harder. Yeah. That's pretty cool.

I've got one heavy analytics question for you. All right. How good is Luca Dantritch? You watch them play, right? Yeah. That's all I need to know. Okay. He's legit.

He is very... They're going to be fun, man. They already are. They already are. I'm excited. I'm excited. Are you going to get the... Like, what's your...

Do you have the hookup there yet? Yes, somewhat. Okay. Because they've been knowing for a long time. I'm a big advocate and big Mavericks fan. Yeah. Like, I mean... It's in the bio.

I make it known. Yeah. Make it known. I'm a Mazz fan for life, you know? Rockwood him, whenever they... They sucked and, you know, then we traded or, you know, we drafted Luca and stuff like that. So I wore it. I wore it that year.

I didn't care. Like, yeah, we finished what top five worst team in the league at the point. I was like, we drafted a stud that's going to change the franchise. So it's like, you know, do you have that? No. Okay. That's what I'm. Are you a crazy mass fan?

Like one thing I always appreciate about C.C. Sabathia. He's like, I understand, like, I don't get mad at crazy, irrational, mean Yankee fans because I'm that for the Raiders. Cici's like when the Raiders. I'm like, you guys fucking suck. Like, get rid of everyone. So do you, do you have enough fandom in the Mavericks to, like, kind of let crazy Rangers fans do their thing? For sure.

I think, I think just more so, because I see it from, like, a person aspect. Because it's like, you know, like, I mean, like, when we were, when we were doing bad, like, you know, like, we were going on some, like, tough streaks this year and everything like that. I mean, shoot, it was hard to even look at Twitter because, you know, you want to be. want to look at some other stuff and you got you know a bunch of our fans that I follow or just you know people talking about how bad like you know like like I gave up a home run to uh um um um or Crawford jp right and we we were we were down I think two runs and then I gave up a two

or three run shot and it pushes to like three or four runs or whatever it is the next thing I know I go I get notification and stuff like that and people like oh my god like get this dude out of here why we even bring him up here like why is he even in the bullpen. I'm like, really, you know, but I mean,

I don't really, I don't really get faced by that stuff. But yeah, like I, like you said, like he was talking about the cowboys, like I don't, I don't get mad about that stuff.

Like people think I do and I'm like, I don't care. Like, yeah, I do care, but it's more so like, it's a bad year, just had injuries and everything.

And guys ain't, you're too logical. Yeah, but you need to get rid of that. You got to get illogical. Yeah, I can't do that. That's how it is with the Yankees for us.

Like, We're posting Dodgers stuff because I'm enjoying the vein. And if I post something that is perceived pro Dodgers, Ray's fans will be like, or Dodgers, Ray's fans be like, where are the Yankees? If I post them that's perceived pro race, like everyone thinks we were cheering for the raise because we were just like myth by what the fuck happened in game four.

Right. They're like, well, it was the Yankees. And I'm like, the Yankees lost. Yeah. It made me sad. They're gone. And that's about it. They're gone.

Yeah. And that's what it is too. But like, it's just, yeah, I know how to separate their stuff. because, I mean, just growing up, I mean, being a Ranger fan of my life, Mavericks and Cowboys, I mean, come on. I mean, we haven't been in the playoffs. You should become like the King of Dallas. Like Waddeburgur get the car dealerships going. Hey, I'm trying.

Yeah, man. I'm just like, I mean. Churn Honey. I got it. See? Triple H. He needs to, you need to pitch that to him. Yeah.

I just, I mean, there's, we think that they should have deals like that, like the taco slide all the time with local sponsors. I want to, I want to do some for strikeouts, though. You just get the fans on edge. It's like bed and crop bats. Every time you come out of the bullpen and they, if you get a strikeout, the whole crowd gets, you know, 50% off at Woodburger. Like if you get two strikes on a batter, that crowd's going to be feeding it. They're going to be up.

Yeah. Just guess we need to do more stuff like that. Just send that up the wire. Yeah, I mean, this is the perfect guy to do it. He's coming up with great content. So go ahead. Yeah. Something like that.

Do something for strikeout. So what? Every strikeout I do it does what? Every strikeout, you get a discount or you get a free, free fries with your order. That's a big one. You got to do like an extra. That promotion didn't get them excited.

No, okay. Well, I'm trying to think like free fries. Well, you know. Yeah, yeah, free fries. I guess you could do like the free chicken thing because people buy other stuff. What if you did? What if you did something like where it's like, you know, one strikeout is free fries, but if I, you know, punch out, I don't know.

Oh, okay. Three. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like, oh, you get a free water burger. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I like that.

Of your choice. I like that because that keeps the crowd more invested. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yes. There you go. Thank you. See? I mean,

yeah. Marketing. He's got the content. Business. Yeah. One, oh, one last question.

Go ahead. When you saw Bruce Star throw his glove, did you think, I want to throw my glove? No. I thought that was awesome, by the way. Yeah.

If they can throw the bat, you guys could throw the glove. We want him to do it. We want him to do it at the end of every now. Like it becomes his thing. Is that all the only just waiting for you? Are you waiting for him to do that now? Well, like, well, the last out of the inning

thing, it'd be cool if it was, you know, you have the- He already has his thing. He does say, boom, or whatever, yeah. Which is good because when we were there, all the Dodgers fans in the crowd, boom, that's a really cool shot. I wanted to get it. But no, it'd be funny if he strikes out the last guy

and then just throws his glove to the dugout. Kind of like how a batter just, like, leaves his bat down and then someone has to pick it up. Signature move. And like, you pick a side. Does he do it? Does he do it after every inning? So like if he's coming back out, does he do it again?

Oh, that's where it gets trick. Yeah. Then he'd get a lot of speculation. He may be coming back out. Didn't throw his gloves? Yeah. I want him to do it even if he gets lit up. We want, oh, we want someone like the over the rails guy.

Who's the over the rails guy for the Dodgers? Jack. The first guy over the railing and anything good happens is jock for them. He just jumps over and catches it. Yeah. And it's just like casual. That'd be pretty cool. Yeah.

curious though like what does y'all's guys take on the stadium i'd love to see it at full capacity how many sweet stars crazy like lower level sweets those are awesome yeah make those uh an affordable group rate and that's awesome but if you just price everyone out of those that's great it's weird because i think people were saying that we were in the nosebleeds but we were section 100 we were the section closest because everything's so high Yeah. We couldn't get a section closer, but they were like, you guys are in the nosebleed. So, like, it's kind of weird the way that outfield and rights designed because it's just one level.

All right. But I don't know. I don't know how loud it's going to get in there, how not loud, because in left field, it's all, basically those seats are like green monster seats. They're so high. Yeah. I'm a sucker. I like new stuff. I'm very face value.

I liked it a lot. Where does this, so out of all the teams, where does this stadium ring? See, I still like the old school ones. Like I like Camden, like small quaint style. But where does our stadium rank on yours? Rank the stadiums 1 through 30 right now. Yes. Well, that I've been to.

Start with 30. I think it's bad on TV. It was much better in person. How is it bad on TV? I don't like the camera angle they have. I'm a big. Like it's like the high up. It's so high up.

It's far away. I like watching the catcher's fingers. It's too far away. But being there, That's what I said on the show, like sitting in the seat, watching the game. It was awesome. Right. Sight lines were good.

The crowd was cool. There's no, you know, Fenway, you sit the wrong way. That sucks. Yeah, I mean, it's, I was excited to check off a lot of stadiums this year. And then Corona hit. So I'm, I'm at like eight to ten stadiums. So where does this rank, though? Let's see, it's better than the Coliseum.

Better than the Coliseum. Is it, well, the main question is it a top five stadium to you guys? Oh, probably not. Really? But I love, like, Riggly. Like, Wrigley's going to be up there for it. Yeah, you're not going to get him on any of the historic stuff. Like Fenway and...

I like Fenway. Fenway's so small, though. When you go there, it looks like a minor league complex. But I love the history of it. So why isn't it a top five stadium? Because it's not old enough yet. Yeah. Yeah.

Has an aged. Yeah. So do we need to go back to the old stadium? Both. I never do the old stadium. Is it? Dang. Yeah.

Try to think Anaheim's pretty boring. I like it. I like it better than the new stadium. Is it top five of you? Probably not tough. I went to Progressive or it's called the Jake. It was pretty boring. It's tough.

Milwaukee, when I went, it was like 2001. What is it? It's different, though. You know what? Although all the stadiums that I'm naming, like Chicago,

Milwaukee, Cleveland, they were all kind of like, this one is definitely different. You look around at how high the seats go and the structure of the seating and the outfield being so zigzagged. And then those sweets,

is more to look at. Will a full capacity change off perspective? If that place was full capacity and rocking, I think we would have a difference. Is that why? Yeah. So let me ask you. It's also dark on TV with the roof closed,

which I don't like. Would you put, and again, you might have a bias vote in this. Coors field, because I like cores a lot. And that's, it's kind of different player and fan perspective.

Is that a top five to me? Yeah. Yeah. You've been to more. You've been to all the West Coast. You go to the right field. Like, I lived in Denver for a little bit. Right field bars up there.

You look over the mountains. You look over the baseball field. It's kind of like, whoa. I'm here. I personally think Coorsfield, for sure, is top five. Okay. What about Safeco? Or whatever it's called now.

I haven't been to Safeco's not bad. People like it. The one I really, really liked was San Diego. Yeah. Okay. I haven't gone to a game. We were around there for winter meetings, but we didn't. I could see that.

Pecco was amazing, by the way. You ever seen the Coliseum before they put up Mount Davis? No. It was beautiful. It was like a nice little quaint. Yeah. It was open. Bring it up.

Content. Yeah, I'm trying. Top five. So we need to get you guys down here when it's full capacity. Yeah. Yeah. So you guys can say it's top five. I'm fine with that.

Let's see. So that's Mount Davis, right? That ruined the view. This was before in Oakland. You just had a view of the hills everywhere. Now it looks like this. That. Oh, yeah, that's right.

Yeah, it looks weird now. It was like a nice open air ballpark. That's a baseball state. Yeah, yeah, that does. A lot of foul territory. That's the difference. I think I like with the roof open, it was nice. I'm interested to watch a game with the roof closed.

Definitely top 10. Wow. Is it better roof close or roof open? Roof open. I don't like roof closed. I've been to a couple. Why? The vibe is weird to me.

I'm okay with roofclose. It's better for weather and rainouts. Why don't you like it? Man, because nothing like a sunset behind a baseball field. We ain't got that here. Yeah. You're in the wrong place for that.

I liked Philly. Have you ever been there? No. That one felt small. We met there. It's like you feel on top of the field a little bit. Is that what solidifies the top five stadium to you? Is you feeling on top of the...

Yeah. I like feeling close to the action. Okay. Like Coliseum, you're so far away. Right. I don't like that. Yeah. Wrigley, you're right there.

But. Oh. So we got to get you guys. If I wasn't a Yankee fan, I wouldn't be too thrilled about the new Yankee Stadium. Right. But just because... You like the old one? It hits...

Yeah, I love the old one. The old one was like an ocean nightmare. Like, you were like on top of the stadium. Yeah. Upper deck was like scary. Yeah. Was it, really? Like if you took a tumble.

Yeah. That might be gone. Yeah. It was nuts. Wow. I didn't even know that. So with the new stadium, is it more back? Yeah, it's more back.

And it's more like each staircase is like really wide. So there's just more gaps where there's not people. With the old one, it was just like, people everywhere. And we ain't in the nosebleeds anymore. We got that YouTube money. That's right. Yelling us.

We're good. Yeah. Yeah. The suites at Yankee Stadium were pretty nice. I hate saying it, but we got invited to it. a lot of sweets and it's a good experience. It's a different.

They roll around with an ice cream cart, like an ice cream Sunday cart. And then five minutes after that, they roll through with a dessert cart. And you're like, what? Yeah, they did that. I wouldn't have eaten all that ice cream. They do that at the American Airlines Center. Yeah. Went there for hockey games, Stars games, and Mavergames.

It was awesome. So wait, are you a Knicks fan? Now these guys are. Let's go, baby. I think it's our year. No. No, no. Not according to Stephen.

It sucks, man. Not according to Stephen. It sucks. Yeah. It sucks, man. Who are you guys going to take this year? No. It doesn't matter.

Dude, it's, it's brutal. A, I think this dress sucks. B. I don't know, man. They just don't make the right move ever. And at the same time, like, you can't blame them for some of it. But like, I don't know. Is it ownership or?

Ronvin Mitchell? It's the ownership. Yeah. It's like the most. We've now heard some. stories from people that are like people that receive emails from ownership and they've shared with us some of that and it's like really embarrassing if you look at all the worst franchises in sports currently it starts with the ownership group like the nicks have been awful for so long right

Washington literally doesn't have a football team name right now and then and cowboys may look like super bowl content but i mean that was that was a bad week but i'm i'm just saying yeah okay so So, Knicks. Yeah. Giants. Giants. I don't giant. Football is my oddball.

I do Broncos. Jarrell Davis growing up was my guy. Every middle school. Giants. Giants. They're Giants crews. Yeah. Dude, New York sports is in a weird place, man.

Jets. Speaking of bad ownerships and teams. Giants are in kind of a brutal spot right now. NFC's nightmare. NICs. the Nets are supposed to be next year. We'll see. They made playoffs this year.

They made the playoffs. They're supposed to be good. I mean, Katie, Kyrie. A little happy about that. I don't have the Knicks' Nets. Thing, you don't care. He hates the Celtics and Boston so much. Boston sports gets under my skin.

Why? Yankees. Red Sox. He lived in Connecticut. So that's half Boston, half Yankees. half, Boston half New York fandoms. So we grow up and it's New York sports and the Yankees pay for players and blah, blah, blah.

And they grew up, all of our Boston friends who are some of our best friends in life. They grew up with their grandparents saying like, we don't really win. We're cursed. But we like going to the games. And now for the past 20 years, they've been like a title town.

And spending money. And so they still have that mindset of like. So now they're this like super. Against everyone. It's like, no, no, no, you guys are the everyone now. They're this super breed of angry yet successful fans. So were you happy that Tom Brady left? Oh, it's ending.

It's ending. Times are changing. Oh, God. Times are changing. You think this would do anything for you? I throw a thumbball over now on. I don't even know what that, like, yeah. I don't even know what type of thing.

It's unhittable. What would that do? Yeah, yeah, I think I have it. Let's see. from John Boy Thumball. Do you have audio? Yeah. This is the back alley thumbball.

Impossible to hit. Easy to lay off. What? That's it. It's a beamball. That doesn't worry. Here, we got some good Jake swings on this video. Have you...

All right, here we go. Is there any urge to, like, just change baseball altogether? Like, grip the ball completely differently. No? You don't want to do the... Thumball, okay. That's a nice hit, Jake. Yeah, I'm a player.

What are you seeing here? Scouting-wise. Early takes. All right. How would you pitch to Jake? You see an athlete in the box. Definitely cannot hit the outside pitch. Okay.

Yep. Short hands. Yep. He's late on the fastball. I'm staying alive there. You look like Judge. If I look like Marion. Yeah.

You think I can strike Treve out? I got a lot of work to do. Prone. Got a lot of work. You need to add a little bit more to the arsenal. Like you got to kind of, you know, because, you know, try to be an ex big league, you know, he's got that eyes. You kind of got to mess with him a little bit, you know, up, down.

And, you know, you might, honestly. Buzz him first pitch. You might, you might need to do that. Take him off the plate. Yeah. Yeah. You know, maybe go first fastball away, you know, maybe get a lot of run to it, but I don't know why.

Okay. Well, it started at his front hip. Start at his front hill. Yeah. All right. It's good. I'll just toss this around. I get some pointers.

Yeah, but like I want to, you got to make sure you let me know when you do that, though. I want to see that. I want to see you start in his front hip or, you know, get a little chin music. But like, but the thing is, though, when you give him chin music, don't laugh. Okay. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, let him know. Yeah.

I might wear a mask so he just can't read my emotions at all. Okay, okay. Yeah. True. I think this is, let's see, I almost hit Jake in the dick with two seamer that runs. Oh, that was a little. That's a double. There you go.

Oh. Yeah. Oh. You didn't like that. Okay. It keeps your on that highlight. See, it lets you know a little something. If you don't like it inside, that's a...

Yeah. So right here. Mm-hmm. Oh. That's right at it. Yeah. Oh. Limited hit mobility right there.

Last last question. Gaming. You're playing Call Duty. You're playing... Madden. Okay. Are you playing the golf game? 2K.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. For sure. I'm on that. We're playing. Okay. Okay. Trapped him. He's a trap.

He's been dying for something to play with. It's good, man. It's good. I haven't played a golf game since, like, the early Tiger Woods. Or, like, 0-809. We played a little bit. But this game's good. You got a Xbox?

I like it. Xbox and PS4. YouTube money. It's got balls. I'm still a little on PlayStation. Like, But, I mean, you let me know when you want to play. Okay.

What's your gaming? Can you give you a little warning? Yeah. He did. Yeah. If you're playing at like 11 at night, are you a nighttime game or are you like a wake up in game? Do you find a time slot?

I'm more of a nighttime guy. Okay. You're going to run into midnight, Jake. I'm more of a midday, take a break. Let's, to have a second wind. Okay. Yeah. I'll stay up to like 2 o'clock.

I like that. You'll get gummed up, Jake. Yeah. whispering because the dog and the girl are asleep. Yeah, I get really high. Like, uncomfortably high. And then you'll hear a lot of him just cursing himself out. Scare myself high.

Is this weird? But, like, I actually like playing the guys that cuss because it's like, like, if I'm playing against him, that drives me more. Oh, okay. That drives me more. Okay. No, it's a, I was so impressed by the video game the first time I left a putt short. It felt like real life if I left a put short.

See. Now, the thing is... It's a real emotion. Do you take practice swings? No. No. That's the difference between me. No.

And you, like, I take practice swings. Because I take it, like, real life. Like, I mean, if I was actually going to golf... I don't take practice swings in real life. People are always... Here's what it is. Like, it's not going to help me. It's not going to help me.

But what I'm punting, though. We're talking about mental approaches. Okay. My mental approach is that I'm... When I line up a put, I'm not overthinking it. I'm finding my angle and I'm letting it right. I don't want to pull it over and then be like, should I type it up to the right?

I'm trusting myself. I line it up and I hit the ball confidently. And results are? I can roll it pretty well. I'd say that's my strength in the game. You golf in real life too? A little bit. What's your handicap?

All of them. I haven't played a lot. I mean, I moved to the city. I play bogey golf on like a good course. He's real good at flopping it onto the green. Double entendre. No, I, uh, if I'm, if I'm playing, like when I lived in Denver I used to play like a couple times a week and hit a good

ball little guy not a ton of power 2 75 25 5 6 5 iron I thought you're giving your weight 200 what was that? Shout out to Max Marcy you golf no get out there man yeah it's fun I'll go to top mental game I'll go to top golf that used to be my they used to be my first day start off here go tomorrow yeah there's like three there's like three four You don't do that, let me know. Okay. Let's go throw these balls around.

All right, let's go. All right. Follow T-Hern 14. On Twitter, yes. Yeah. 21 at Instagram. IG follows. Okay.

Need them. Oh, you forgot to say what pop model. Oh, female you're looking. You just didn't say that. I don't really know because there's a lot of good pop models, I guess, like out there. Okay. Just list your favorite shake. Yeah.

Just list of yours, please. I actually... Quickly. Meg the stallion, her S&L performance. One year. I like that, didn't you? Whoa. Yeah.

Well, first she went like full sexy, then she sent the message, then she went back to sexy, and I was like... Yeah. He made the dog leave the room. Heavy breath. Like, yeah.

That was Taylor Hearn. Thank you. They appreciate you guys. Baseball. There you have it. That was the episode. Hearn. Hern hunch, honey.

Discount, whatever we came up with. He liked that. He's like, yeah, tell him. Easy hunch. He's got to get up to 100 next year. And yeah, if there's a couple parts that seem a little weird, it's because we had the video right in front of us. So maybe we'll get some clips out with that.

Well, check it on YouTube. You can see what we were looking at. He's the man. Yep. Thanks, guys. We will see you later. Yeah, we'll see you later. Technically, Jake and I are on vacation around.

Jake's in Arizona right now. We're missing. Playing golf? I'm lost. He's lost. I lost. High in the desert of Arizona.