Talkin' Baseball (MLB Podcast) - 248 | Royals Makin’ Moves, Realmuto, & Non-Tenders

Episode Date: December 1, 2020

Jomboy, Jake, & Plouffe are back from Thanksgiving! The guys break down the Royals signing Mike Minor to a multi-year deal and Michael A. Taylor to a one-year deal, the Phillies being reportedly out on re-signing JT Realmuto, the Reds' pursuit of a shortstop, the Marlins' acquisition of Adam Cimber, the brand new MLB Draft League, and play Tender or Tough with potential non-tender candidates. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Hello and welcome to talking baseball. Mike Miner is a royal. We will discuss it for the next hour and a half. Stay tuned. Get ready. Minor talk only. Oh, and welcome to talking baseball. Today's episode, we will talk about Mike Minor, but I lied.

It's not going to be only about Mike Minor. There's other topics on the agenda as well. My name is Jimmy sitting next to me as Jake. He's wearing a nice show. shirt. I had that outfit on yesterday, basically. We've swapped. Trev coming to us from California in a tie-dye hoodie. It's a cool hoodie, man. I couldn't wear that. I'm not cool enough.

And producer Bug Bug Behind the dish, eating, eating a hat bug. All my words got messed up. It's kind of like a stroke happened. Wearing an eat-a-bug hat. Yeah. Ad. Yes. Trev, how are you doing? I'm doing exceptionally well on this Tuesday morning. I really feel like it's too long in between episodes for us.

I guess we didn't record on Thursday last week. It just felt like too long of a weekend. I know, I don't want to say, I missed you guys. We recorded the other interview on Tuesday, right? We went back to back. So, yeah, it's been a long time. It's been a while. But I had a great Thanksgiving, a great weekend.

You guys saw I went to a farm yesterday. Just really nice Nice weekend for me How are you guys doing? How many farms did you go to, Jake? I think one, I don't know if it's technically a farm It was like a historical place. Very nice.

Took some family pictures there with Jess's family And the one that her mother posted, I look horrendous. I look like a big, like oaf. Yeah. Like it's not good. It's so weird. Jimmy called me laughing.

my mom sent it to me. I saw a pick of you. You look like you're still in the clothes from like your family picture. You know, like you have to put on a nice shirt and everyone kind of matches with their plaid in the fall. You look like you just kept... I'm in a trickle.

I'm texting the picture of Jake and Jess's family to the talking baseball group chat. So Zach is going to get it and be like, what are they talking about in there? If you're one of our Patreon members to join the Talking Baseball group chat, million bucks. Yeah, million bucks and you're in.

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Archduke, and Diane Plouf. Most recent patrons, Jimmy is my name. Patreon.com slash JohnmoreMedia is the patron. No, it's going to be a nice moment.

Trev reacts to the picture of Jake and Justice family. I have not got it yet. I'm waiting. Trevor, you mentioned this on your intro a little bit. BBD is just giggling his face away. You know,

okay, let me explain. to the people the kind of person you look like. Let me get my one statement out before we roast me for a little bit. It's so mean what I'm about to do. It's going to be nice that first week of December because we got some holidays. Oh, shit. We got some holidays coming up, you know, Christmas, Hanukkah, whatever you celebrate,

that this December is going to be a little choppy. I think we're going to have a cool moment that first week of January where it's like, oh, we're starting. Game time. Like we're locked in. I'm excited for that. Now let's rip me to shreds. No, here's the thing. I just want to paint a picture for the audience. Because the type of person, the type of person you look like in that photo.

I don't like me in that photo. That's not what you look like, Jake. It's not what you look like in your day to day. But the type of guy you look like in that photo is like the guy who played Richard Jewel in Richard Jewel movie. His name is Paul Walter. I was going to go with... It's so mean. I can't find like a picture. No one. I look like the little kid from Christmas vacation grown up. Just like a big bruiser kind of like. Yeah.

You like, you look at this picture of you and you're like, he dumb. Yeah. Yeah. You know, my first reaction was... Like that kid's slow in the head. Oh. That's tough. That's tough.

But I, you don't. look like this. This isn't you. Well, I think he looks exactly like that. That's me. It's a picture of him. That's a picture of me. My first reaction was Jess looks hot like a babe. Yes. Smoke. Oh my goodness. And then this my second one reaction is you look like you sell like John Deere tractors in Wisconsin. Like that's not me. It's not weird. Yeah. It is that literally I'm the least masculine person ever. Like I shouldn't be giving off John Deere Tractor salesman. vibes. Yeah, but like, you sit behind the desk.

You've been laughing a lot. Let's, let's, let's hear it. Well, I don't know. I was a couple weeks ago, I was showing my mom a picture, some pictures of you going through your Instagram. I forget why. I forget what day it was. There's some reason. Thanksgiving at that. It's probably a session where she wanted to look at noodle. Yeah, she like seeing those picks. But she saw a pick of Jess and she didn't believe that that was your girlfriend. So, just has, I don't know, Just has a very pretty smile and a beautiful face, so people are shocked. Oh, I was telling her about you but different. Ah, okay.

And I was scrolling through that, and you, you but different did him. Like he caught your mom on my instinct. Is your mom a fan of you, but different? Kind of. Well, she thought it was going to be kinder, so she asked me if you would do one for her. It's not going to be flattering. Quit here in the chat. This is a mean pod right now.

So let's get into the baseball. Let's get in those minors you wanted to talk about. Enterprise rent a car in Fort Myers. They have a great. And they just like dick you around. They have a great management trainee program. Yeah. You're the assistant.

I'm failing at my job, but they don't want to fire me because they'd rather rip on me. Yeah. Okay. You don't look like that. Thank you. You look very nice today. Tough. I think you look exactly like that.

I just don't know what job. That's as mean as it gets. That's as mean as it gets. That's a good point by him. It is a picture of me. Doesn't look like you though. Like they're professional photos. I saw some of them and I look fantastic.

The fact Jess's mom posted that. I mean, it was a shot across the house. Dude, there's one. If you come to my house, maybe I'll post you. We have, my mom has a picture of every Christmas picture of the family's ever taken. There's one year where I look like a box truck. Yeah. I remember that year.

Yeah. I just look. You were mad. So mad. Yeah. Because I'm like, We sent this to everyone. Yeah.

And clearly... Jim had a rough year this show. My sisters just chose whatever they looked best in. And Luke and I are just standing there. Like, we don't know what photos being taken. Yeah. We just look like box trucks. Yeah.

So I'm with you. It's bullshit when you don't get to choose. Thank you. Yeah, but Lucas has that, like, handsome. He's got a little... No, this was middle school, Luke, which wasn't... Yeah. Middle school look was different.

He wasn't handsome yet. He didn't become a man yet. Yeah. All right. Mike Miner signs a multi-year deal to go back to Kansas City. It's two-year deal? They still haven't leaked the official numbers yet, which is so odd. Like, why?

I don't know what we're hiding about Mike Minor. But, I mean, it was supposed to be significant because, again, we kind of got caught into this. Oh, Drew Smiley gets paid for a year. That's cool. The fact that Mike Miner got multiple years is kind of news. And the fact it was with the Royals. I think that surprised everybody, but I don't know, kind of a fun story. But yeah, we still, two days later, we don't have a number on it.

Just, it's a two-year deal, no number. Do we even know it's two? It says multi-year, right? It does say multi-year. Two-year deal with Mike Minor. Yeah, yeah. This says it's confirmed that's a two-year deal. And then they also got Michael Taylor.

Michael A. Taylor for, 1.70 minutes. So anyway, I mean, the minor deal, if you're a Royals fan and you're listening, this is, this isn't a, it's a good move. I mean, minors 2019 was phenomenal as 2020. I think the, peripherals say that they're kind of the same as 2019. The velocity was down, but the effectiveness of the fastball was the same. And you're just banking that he can do that again. And if he needs to go to the bullpen, he can do that. But what the Royals business is is not having to rush their They have so many prospects that are arms in their system, and they don't want to have to rush them up. So I wouldn't, you know, they tried Matt Harvey last year.

They just need innings eaters so they don't have to rush to the development of their big three down there. Forget their names. Yeah, I wrote it down somewhere. Well, they've got a singer and Bubich got called up this year. Yeah, and they're both young. They have Jackson, I'm not going to say this right, Kahar, Kohwar, Kuwar. Okay. It's K-O-W-A-R.

Daniel Lynch and Asa Lacey. Right, their first round pick from this year. So they just don't want to rush those guys. So they're just buying innings, really, and minor can be good. Maybe they flip them if he's really good. Maybe they don't know. Trev, you got some Mike Minor stuff? Is he in the book?

I don't know if he's in the book. I spent a very brief amount of time with him in Texas spring training. Nice dude. He did pitch for the Royals in 2017 and then kind of parlayed that little experience into that three-year pact with with Texas. And he actually signed that year that I signed with them the same year. And it was interesting because, yeah, he went to the bullpen.

And then they signed him as a starter again. It was kind of a weird thing. But yeah, he had that unbelievable year in 2019. And last year, he got hit hard last year. Treve, if you were his teammate. It's all about the spin now. He's got a good spin. They're going to sign you.

This is another example of that. Treve, if you were his third baseman and he was at 190 strikeouts and there was a foul ball, popped up to you and he screamed drop it, drop it, drop it. Would you drop it to give him the chance at 200 strikeouts? Sure. Okay. So you had no problem with that? No.

I mean, it didn't affect the game and like I don't know if he had a bonus or whatever, but I want everyone to get their bonuses. So I don't have a problem with that either. I'd expect him. But it's a precedent set. He can't get mad at like bat flipping or he can't get mad at anything else, which I'm fine. He shouldn't.

He shouldn't, but I'm saying, you know, play that game. But a lot of people were upset about that. Yeah, Treve, you mentioned the spin rate. I think his fastball was technically like the third best spin rate fastball or something, which again, you don't expect that from Mike Minor, especially his V-Lo has dropped. I think his fastball sit at 90 this year, and I think a couple years ago was 94. I think part of that he was doing a lot of bullpen stuff as well. But hey, good for him. I'm interested to see the numbers. That's one of those weird things. I don't want to say it's a great contract. If you're a Royals fan, Like Jimmy said, I think you should be happy.

Dude, all he has going for him on the baseball savant bars is, like, look at this. Fastball spin, 97 percentile. Everything else is mediocre or bad. I think mainly it's exactly what you're talking about, Jim. He's got to eat innings. And then I think a lot of teams now, they'll take a look at some of these guys with the spin rate, like at the upper echelon, they'll take him in. They'll probably hook him up to some biomechanical, wearable technology and say,

let me see why you're doing this. Let's get a better idea of how you're doing it. Maybe we can implement something for the rest of our guys. Do you have a secret? How is your Pelican grip doing? Blah, blah, blah. I think it's just more of a mentorship, eat innings type of thing.

And the Royals are fine. We don't know the number, but the royals are fine if he's not superb. Whereas, you know, a team in the hunt, the Braves, the Blue Jays. They want guys that have a little more bank on a result. I don't know the phrasing, but whatever.

This is a classic. pitcher at the end of his career type of deal. You'll see it. We're probably going to see a bunch of these. He comes back to Kansas guys like this, stuff like that. Coming back to Kansas City, too, I mean, that clearly means the organization likes him and has a good relationship with him. So they do want him to mentor those young guys too, which is cool. And yeah, I know, Jim, you said it in, I think the fan baseball front office perspective is don't, you know, you can keep those young guys down.

and you don't have to push them. I know there were some Royals people saying like, what? Like mine are going to be blocking some of our prospects? No. They're not ready. You'll never have too much pitching. And if you get good Mike Minor, it might be cool. And I'll tell you what, you know, I'm not going to start getting excited about the Royals.

But they've got big pitching prospects on the way. Kellers. Keller's pretty good. I'm just saying if they could find some 2019 Mike Minor and the young guys pitch. well, like, the Royals will be the next, the next, next team if that young pitching starts to develop. That's all I'm saying. Pitching takes a lot longer than hitting, though, so.

Get some people excited, though. I know, you're getting the, you're getting the Kansas City people excited. I get it. I'm going to be the opposite. Just, just, you have to have patience now. You have these pitchers for seven years. There's five we just named the three that haven't broken out yet. six singer

boobitch and Keller that's six guys there that are I think all under 24 Keller's good say three of them Keller's panned out already say Keller plus

two others pan out like that's a realistic thing then you get three guys and you get a window of like probably four years with those three guys that's but it's not open yet Trev I mean Jake's just saying

it's in sight they're on deck to get the fan base excited. Yeah. Is what I'm saying. There's great fans. If they put a good ball club out there, the fans show up.

It's an awesome place to watch a game. You can tailgate. Love that shit. Michael A. Taylor. Two years away from being two years away. There you go. Four years away sometimes. If you were to do math.

Not a math, bud. Never been. Michael A. Taylor, he signs, he was with the Nats for his full seven years. and now he signs a $1.7 million deal. The Royals love speed, which is kind of funny. The Royals just love fast players. Two years ago, they fielded a sprinting team

that accidentally held baseball bats every three times a game. They did. They came to Yankee Stadium, and I was like, what is this? It's intimidating when you play them a little bit, because you're like, do they know something we don't? Are they just going to run around the whole time? It was just nothing but speedsters.

I was actually looking at sprint speed this morning on baseball. Who am I? I don't know. Who have you guys turned me into? I have no idea. But then you got me thinking right there. Like, is Michael Taylor up here? And I don't see his name.

Didn't you and the Nats fans get into a little Michael Taylor spat at one point? So there's a contingent of, no, this is real. He's 74th. He's 74th in sprint speed in the MLB. so 74th percentile or 74th? No, 74th overall sprint That's pretty good then. He's in the top 100 players?

Right, bad. Right below mooky bats. He's fast. Yeah. With Merrifield's faster than him. Yeah, I know. Dude, they had Mondesey, Merrifield, Hamilton, Gore. Yeah.

Like, they had a lot of, like, it was like five out of nine where like this guy can't hit, but he can run. They had a legit like four by 100 Olympic track team. It's very hot. give me the top five. Can you name a few of the top five, do you think? Fastest sprint speed. Hamilton.

Timlo Castro. Yeah, Timmy Low is up there probably. Timlo Castro, yep. Hamilton's on the top five? That's a fall from Grace. Is this? If he ever was. Is this sprint speed to first?

It's like the fastest they've been tracked out? Yeah, this was the, I don't know, sprint speed. Whatever the hell that means. Like doesn't Otani have a sneaky one or something stupid? Who? Otani? He's not listening. This is 2020, though, so maybe I can do more.

Buxton's a good guess in the chat. I'll do a... Yeah, this 2020. We got Tim LoCashro, Roman Quinn, who I played with. Yeah, I just watched every single bunt attempt he's ever tried. Yeah, that was awesome. Nice video. Adam Engel for the White Sox.

Nice. Byron Buxton and rounding out the top five. Trey Turner. Yeah. And those are the only people in the 30 feet. per second category. Everyone else drops below after that. Elite. Elite. So Michael A. Taylor. Michael A. Taylor, there's a contingence of Nationals fans, like Nats' moms. If you're Nationals fans, back me up here because I got into a spat with this. It's probably

like a Facebook group like Nats' moms. And they love Michael A. Taylor. And I did a breakdown on him because it was like the worst game a player could ever possibly have. I ended it with like his highlights and saying, hey, it was just one game. Yeah. But it was like he cost the game winning error, went 0 for five with five strikeouts. Yeah. And Nat's moms got mad at me. And then I had some Nationals fans reach out like, yeah, man, there's like a Michael A. Taylor fan base. That's a culty.

Maybe it's the Andy Pettit thing. Like all these kind of Nats moms have crushes on Michael A. Taylor and they felt offended on that. He was supposed to be the guy in Washington for a long time. You know, he's got tools, man. He was a big prospect. sets the market for free agent hitters so far. It's him at 175, and right below him is Josh Harrison at $1 million. So the hitters market's still picking up.

What would you guess for minor? 210, 215, 215, 240, 24, to 6? 220. You think so? Yeah, I think he's out there. I think he's, I think it's 216 to 220. Okay. I like 216.

I kind of want to go there. Jake has 216 locked up, Trev. What's your official desk? I'll go 216. Okay. I'll go, I'll go a little higher. I think he's going to demand more than a Robbie Ray. So I'll go, uh, or maybe not.

You might, that might just be the collusion number that we have going on here is the eight. All right. It turns out it's, it exists. Yeah. DVD has it. Awesome. Did it just happen? Are we dumb?

I don't know. I just found it on SPOT track. Okay. I always say spot track. I don't know. I don't know how it said. Two for 7.25. Huge.

A.A.V or total? Total. Yeah, okay. You guys were weird to me out how high you were going. I don't believe that. What fucking site is that? It's the contract website. I'm not believing it.

To stand for sports contracts? I assume so. I use that site all the time. I never had that realization. Because I always thought of it as spot track. Spot track. But sport contract. You go to the spot you're looking for.

Spot track. Pretty sure it's sports. Yeah, yeah, it makes a lot of sense. All right. So two for seven and five, that's three years. You guys don't believe that? Two nonbelievers? I do not believe that's the number.

Okay. Two nonbelievers. I mean, they usually specify when they're estimating and they don't have it listed as an estimate. I think three nonbelievers. I kind of believe it. Oh, I wasn't talking by finer. Oh. God?

Travis, you believe in God? Here we go. I do. Cool. Okay. I don't know in the traditional sense that, you know, any one specific. Yeah, like a nice sunset. So do we need a good boring.

Higher power, weird. You know, you really start thinking about the universe and like there was something there. Who was there at the beginning? Something. Something's there. Go back a long damn time. Okay. They created me.

Oh, they, that's multiple cuts. That's just your mom and your dad. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Bangin. Banging it out. They did, huh? Back of a pinto.

Good sush. They almost called them Pinto ploof. I was almost going to kind of like a Rivers Cuomo type thing. Anyway, Philly's owner says they cannot sign J.T. Romuto because they lost $2 billion. Strike that, reverse it. That was Bill Madden, James Madden, I don't know the article, writer name. John Madden, John Madden, Steve Madden. Steve Madden, is that what it is?

I think so. He just got the number wrong. This caused a storm on Twitter for a while. Like, how can the Phillies lost $2 billion for one year for entire valuation? It's like, well, clearly fake. Skip that step and just be like, that's fake. So it's fake. And then they retracted it and they said that they lost $145 million,

which is like someone else I read just a guesstimate. Basically the whole article smells and stinks and like everyone's like, well, the whole thing's probably fake now. But the Phillies probably aren't going to sign real mootow. Everyone lost money. So, I don't know. That was like a headline. Caused a stir for a day.

Got rejected. I don't think anyone cares about it anymore. I didn't. I mean, the $2 billion number was bad anyways because it didn't make any sense. That's their, that's their Forbes, like what the franchise is valued. None of this made sense anyways,

because I still don't even believe. it. I mean, I just think they're trying to throw a dumb negotiating chip out in the ether. I don't think any of that article's real. Yeah. So we're on the same page. Isn't this your best friend? Isn't this the owner? You hit the walk off? You guys started making out in the shower or something. We're definitely close. I saw it for about.

John. I, you know, look, John, I think you're right, Jake. This could be a negotiation tactic. The thing I keep thinking what the Phillies is, one, they need a catcher. Two, Bryce Harper consistently has been calling for them to pay J.T. Real Muto.

So you give a guy 13 years or zillion dollars. You think he's got a little bit of juice there. You know, I don't know if they're going to be able to compete with some other teams, maybe at the dollar figure. Maybe that's why they're trying to do this. But...

How about this? They need more than J.T. Real Muto. Uncle Steve. Uncle Steve picks up Real Mudo for the Mets, right? And part of the deal is a blockbuster Harper trade. And Philly's owner is like, he wanted to play with Real Moodo more than he wanted to play for Philadelphia. We're out of here.

And then Philly's fans just cry and cry. This is nothing against Price Harper because I do think he's worth every penny that he got paid. but this was signed before the COVID season. I bet if that scenario arose and they could somehow give Harper to the Mets, they would do it. That's just my gut feeling. But, I mean, like I said, I think Bryce is worth every damn penny. Yeah, I, man, the real Muto thing's going to be fun. The more and more I think about it, I've seen more taster reels.

He's not your normal catcher. He's a solid base runner, blah, blah, blah. I think the right teams are in the mix, man. I think he's going to get a payday. This guy, they need a catcher. No. No. You guys hate Gary Sanchez.

No. No. It's cute. Why not? Strong. If J.T. Real Muto ended up on the Yankees, we would be very excited about it. But it's not their need. The Yankees have a limited spend and...

Not their biggest need. We're done this on two episodes in a row of talking Yanks. So if you're interested, you can go find a deep dive there. the Mayhew doesn't sign there. They have to get Lindor. There's rumors that that Mike minor number might be out in a couple hours and our guesses might be close to it. And reported Spotrack numbers false. Eat a bug Spotrack. Yeah. If the Yankees don't resign DJ, I said this on the last episode talking yanks, I will become an very obnoxious Yankee fan and say, well, go trade for Lindor

now. Go get the best package for Lindor. I don't think they're going to pay DJ, man. Like, I don't know. We'll see. You guys know more about it than I do, but just gut feeling is that he's probably going to command more money somewhere else. They want a hometown discount.

I don't think he's... Well, I think he has all the leverage. I think he's playing the game perfectly with how much he repeatedly keeps saying in the public, I will take a discount for play for the Yankees. I want to play for the Yankees because kind of holding the Yankees to the fire

now where if they don't go and get them after all of that, it's on the Yankees for getting outbid. So I think that D.E. and his camp are playing it really smart and the Yankees have to what's pony up or or they're going to or they have to have an ace in their sleeve and a big second move but you know a while ago I thought if they don't get DJ they might just go get Andrleton Simmons for a one year deal because then the shortstop market is huge in 20 21 22 off season but now I'm getting more irrational

and if they don't get DJ, go get Lindor and then have plans to sign him long term. Jim, it's funny you mentioned the shortstop market. Mm-hmm. Because. The next bullet point on our list here. The Cincinnati Red stockings. Oh. The Reds.

Trevor, you're Reds. They were always eyeing you. that opo juice. They just never got enough prospects to put the trade package together. They're looking for a shortstop. They're probably losing Bauer. They're kind of at grips with that. So there's 18 mil you got to spend elsewhere.

And shortstop's kind of that hole in that team. There's a lot of young guys, a lot of bodies at positions, even though they didn't really hit last year. And, man, this is a good year to be in the shortstop market. Lendors on the trade market. Trevor's story potentially on the trade market. And I actually really like the free agent crop. It's Dedy, Andrelton, Marcus Simeon, a year removed from being a top three MVP.

I don't know. I go get Didi or Simeon. Yeah. Unless Dedy hated his time there. He doesn't want to go back. Simeon fits in really well with him. Dedy seems like the guy that always wants to try something new. Oh, I like that.

I don't know if since I've been there, no offense. I don't think Cincinnati is like the new adventure he wants to try. That's what I'm saying. I don't think he. Yeah, I don't think that lights his eyes up. Let me go. Simeon in a red's uniform? I like Stimian in a red's uniform.

Simmons wears red, you know, already. I mean, their offense was, you know, they have potential there. I don't know really what happened this year. You could just blame it on a COVID season, asterisk everything this year. Sorry, Dodgers. But I can see that, man. I kind of like that move for them.

Yeah, I mean, they, you know, Suarez was kind of missing for half the year. homers ended up there. You heal. Consuarez plays short. No. He's probably can't. He's got that thick boy ploof third base body going right now. Castiano's is always going to hit.

I kind of like the fit with Didy as the lefty. You can start splitting up some of those righties. Moose is still there. He didn't fully moose this year. That lineup does have the guys Jesse Winker went nuts for a little bit. They have a lot of lefties, though. I don't know. I think if you're a fan of,

the Reds, you're probably saying you don't want Andrelton just because your team didn't hit this year. So if you're bringing in another shortstop, even if you expect those guys to perform, man, yeah, I like all those guys. There are five lefties, the Reds.

Shogo. Miko. Winker. Winko. Mousseau. Tucko. Tucker. Barnhart, your guy. Yeah, we don't even have Senzel in that lineup. So Simeon, that plays can be a hitters park, right, Trev? You tell me.

Gosh, dude. Yeah. That whole division's a hitters park. It's ridiculous. Simeon, like, he's, to me, when I'm looking, I'm a value guy. That's how I, that's how when I GM, my fantasy football teams,

I'm a value guy. When I bet, I'm a value guy. Simeon is on a discount after a tough 2020. But he has, you know, you look back one year and you see the potential that's there. So I think that that's like kind of a guy that I would key in on if I was them. Does he want to go there? He's going to have some options.

I can see him in a Yankees uniform. He could crush that right field porch. Simeon? Yeah. Yeah. If they don't get DJ, they don't get DJ, I believe the Yankees become big players in the shortstop market. And they slide Glaber back to second base. With the Yankees uniform?

He might hit six. 70 homers there. Yeah, I would, we'll have, we'll have that tweeted out. Clip that, Kyle. 70 homers for Trevor's story. Done. Done, boom. Next up on our list of topics here is that the Marlins acquired Adam Simber.

And they DFAed Jose Urania. Can you do a timber simber remix for us, just for those people missing the burns? It's going down. I'm yelling simber. I actually went somewhere. I was going goldfinery. with it. Adam Simber.

Throws from his shoes, though. Illegal. Yeah. Well, no. It's legal. We don't care about this, correct? Oh, yeah. I think you're...

That was me and Jim. I care about it. Look, it's another Jeets move. Okay? I think Jeet's kind of been hot in the streets this offseason. Well, who celebrates the most out of this move? Ronald Acuna Jr.

Yeah. Yeah. Stop getting hit. A fucker's out of there. Yeah. Dude, it's him every chance he can see him. I wanted to know if this was funny business because Urania got hit at the end of the season, which took him off the playoff roster.

Is that a... I don't know. I'm very naive here. Is there any injury funny business or is this happening to Urania anyway? His numbers have gone down. I mean, he had two years there, 2017, 28. You know, 34 starts, 31 starts, a 3-9 ERA, where I think if you're a Marlins fan, it's just the past couple years have kind of been, fall from grace sounds really heavy,

but he hasn't been good, and I think he was starting to hit that time when you start having to pay players. Yeah. Led the league and hit by pitches two years in a row. Writing was on the wall. I think that's kind of the thing is, you know, we're going to see a lot of this. Guys that are about to make some money aren't going to make any money, or not as much as they thought they would. We're going to see him DFA'd.

He'll get picked up and put somewhere. All right. The Royals might sign. Team will give him a chance. All right. I'm going to play a little sound bite here. Did it. Now we're pivoting to just a whole new conversation.

Major League Baseball announced the formation of MLB's draft league. I think if we wanted to, we could spend a lot of time on this because naturally we all have like weird opinions on this. So we should maybe limit ourselves. I'll just let everyone know what's happening. MLB announced that it has teamed with Prep Baseball Report to form the MLB Draft League, a new Summer League that will allow the nation's top draft eligible players to compete in a 68 game season beginning next year. The league will be headed up by former MLB scout Carrick Jackson,

who resigned from his post as the head coach. No one cares about that. Five teams, all of them former minor league affiliates, have been. brought aboard as the founding five clubs in the league. We have names here. The valley scrappers, spikes, thunder, black bears, and cross-cutters. And talks with a six team are in the works.

You guys both said he didn't like this right away, and I was kind of trying to give them credit, and then I read what they're actually doing, and I don't think it makes sense either. I thought they were trying to, Trev, I thought they were going to try and, you know how there's kids that don't get looks, Scouts don't come to their schools.

They have to go to showcases to get in front of scouts. I thought MLB was just saying, well, there's a lot of money being made on these showcases. Let's form our own showcase league. And we'll go to Trenton and put on a three-day tournament with five teams. And then we'll go to Cincinnati and we'll go to Chattanooga and we'll put on these tournaments that, you know, we'll call it the draft league. But it's really just roving in and out. A 68-game season. Jake, you said it.

Why would a pitcher sign up for? this. I wouldn't. I mean, it's kind of the opposite of spring training. You know, spring training is for the pitchers to get built up. If I was a pitcher, there's no incentive to me. I would just want to have my draft day, pump 96 in the gun and say, see, in the third round. Like, the whole idea around this is to, the MLB has been looking for their draft combine. They think this is the solution, and it's not. We would rather have a combine. Put all these dudes in a room and pump it as hard as he can.

Like literally the 40-yard sprint, but pitchers chucking a ball. Like, I don't know, man. Like, there are going to be some cool stories from this. There's going to be the kid from, and this is why you initially liked it, the kid from the D3 school that goes in here, you know, they were going to, he was going to be a 25th round pick. He goes, plays with the D1 boys, slaps it around a little bit. He goes from 25th to seventh round, and he's a real prospect, blah, blah, blah.

If you're a real prospect, you wouldn't, playing this. You're just going to ruin your stock. So I, uh, I don't know. I don't know. I, it feels like a miss. I hope I'm wrong. MLB baseball. If you're listening genuinely, I hope there's something I'm missing, but I don't get. I feel like, I think this is baseball trying to like make money on a little league and, uh, you know, helps team scout better. If you're top pick, if you're in the top five rounds, you're not playing in this. You're not touching it. And, and they're, they're promoing it like it's going to be. those guys. The stars of tomorrow. The stars of tomorrow.

This is lazy from MLB is what it is. You know, it's hard to scout, okay? And you know how many scouts have been laid off in the last year. This is a result of that, or this was the plan all along, whatever it is. Like, typically how these guys do it is they travel. There's area scouts. They go to high school games. They go to college games. A team will put on a workout. They'll invite 10 guys and they'll do

bullpans, ground balls, all that stuff, but it's a lot of work and a lot of info. Then you have to kind of, you know, decide, like, how can I project this guy? Where does he project? And they rely on these area scouts to do that. This is trying to get everyone together. They want to put them in front of the stat cast machines.

They want to have guys wear shit. This is, you guys hit it on the head. This is not for the top prospects. Now, if you think you're underrated and you want to go out there and improve your draft stock, maybe you go of this. But again, as a pitcher, you want to put more endings on your arm.

You may, you know, it could go either way. I think this is just a lazy attempt for them to be able to identify talent. It's also really confusing. It's really confusing because the schedule they have set up goes after the draft.

So then they're thinking that that would help offset no A ball, no short season A ball, because a lot of when you get drafted, you go to short season A ball to play a couple games before the season. ends for like August, July and August, September, or not even September. But but then, but then that's drafted players and this is supposed to be undrafted. And these kids aren't going to get paid because they're amateurs that haven't been

drafted. You can't get drafted. So I don't understand the idea. Either there's something huge that's been misreported or we're missing. So basically this idea is happening and it doesn't make sense to us. They basically, the one interview I saw on MLB Network, the guy basically said exactly what you said, Trevor, which again, there's no perks to anyone, but they were like, you know, there's a lot of times in baseball front offices when their East Coast guy fights for a shortstop, and their West Coast guy fights for a shortstop, and they don't know who to pick. And it's kind of like, that's your guys. Duh.

That's your guys' problem. Figure that out. That's what scouts are for. There's a head scout. There's area scouts. Yeah, that's the whole process. The draft is tough. The draft is tough.

And if you're a pitcher... It's going to be that way. And, hey, let's say you are the sixth round pitcher who wants to go and drop some D because you think you should be a first rounder. I'd go out there for one game, shove, and call it. And I wonder, is that going to be available to guys?

Like, what are the rules around this? So, I don't know. I hope I'm wrong, but it feels like I'm miss. The wearable and the stat cast type stuff, I think is what they're really trying to get from this. Because, look, I played in every damn... minor league you could play in. Every level.

And when I was my rookie year, the guy that was like MVP of the league was a guy named Mitch Enertson and he crushed it and everyone was like, holy shit, this guy is fucking Babe Ruth. And he didn't make it past low A. So you could have guys tear this league up. It doesn't, it's not,

it doesn't mean you're going to all of a sudden be a big leaguer. You know, it takes time for people to develop. And, you know, that's part of the process of becoming a majorly baseball. You can't, you literally cannot go from high school or even college, very rarely to the big league. Some pitchers can do it. But you need to play some games, you know, against some really good competition. This would be, if I was a GM, this would be nothing to me except if I got the stat cast numbers.

And there's a diamond in the rough I can develop this guy. Your results in this league, I would be like. And you can get those numbers from a combine. Exactly. When I saw this, I was like, what is going on? They're trying to, like, they want to make the draft, the MLB draft, something that it's not. And how profitable could it be? Why are you doing this?

Like, how much money could you make off the draft? Like, why are you putting so much effort into it? I don't understand. There's always ways, but it seems very misguided. I mean, give me a combine where I'm getting, who hit the hardest ball, who threw the hardest, who had the best spin rate? Like, that's what's fun. I do think they're looking at this as, like,

a mini industry and easier for the scouts which again kind of not thinking about the players or the fans which checks the boxes i think this is this is a this is a massive mistake failure yeah most likely good enjoy all right the final segment of today's show is a little game we're going to call tender or tough i like that thank you guys So we have December 2nd, which is tomorrow. By the end of the day, teams have to finalize all of their arbitration level. Yeah, basically the players that are due for raises, the young guys within the organization that would be getting pay bumps this year.

So we mentioned the Yankees already a couple times. Gary Sanchez is in his first year of our, second year of arbitration. So he would be going from five. million to say seven million this year. And if you're the team, you have the option to non-tender them. So the example from last year, I think was Jonathan V.R. You know, he was good for the Orioles. He had a high war.

He was going to make $7.5 million. And the Orioles said, no, we'd rather not pay him. Yeah. So, you know, it's become more of the financial equation of baseball where, you know, we're about to say some of the names on the list, but it's, you know, I'm seeing Austin Hedges for the Indians. Do the Indians want to pay Austin Hedges $3 million to be their backup catcher? Or would they rather pay someone the minimum from their minor leagues and save themselves $2.5 million?

Yeah. So, tender means they tender them. Tough. What's the other option again? It means tough break. How do you like your steak cooked? I'm a medium rare guy. If I'm at a nice place, I will go rare.

steak, whiskeys, and IPAs are the, you know, my three manly areas and John Deere tractors now. Yes. All right, here we go. I'm only going to read off the names that I think are interesting. So Austin Hedges will start there. Indians, $3 million is the projected. I'm going tough. The only reason I wouldn't go tough is because it's the bad look trade-wise.

I might go tender just because his good stature. That's reflect perfectly to Roberto Perez, who they love. And they love good catchers. And they traded for him recently. Yeah, that's the only thing that's making me say tender. So I'll go tender. All right. I changed my mind.

I'm tender. Trev? $3 million is the projected? Yeah. It's hot, too. I say non-tender. That's tough. Tough.

All right. Gary Sanchez, projected 5.5 million, which seems low down the projected to me, but I'm going to say tender. And again, we've had so many long conversations just on Talking Yanks. They, they, if you're going to lose Gary for nothing, you might as well just keep him and see if you can tap into the 30 home run a year catcher he was in 2019. So I don't think they're going to lose him for nothing.

So I'm going to say they tender, Gary. Jake? I'm going tender. The Yankees and Gary are in bed together at this point. And they said it already. Boone basically said he's coming back. and he's playing. So that's kind of an easy one.

If there was a bigger catcher pool of candidates out there, I think it would be time to move on. There's just not. So give it one more chance. If it's a disaster, okay, move away. I agree. Tender. Tender.

Too much potential. Give away for $5,000. Let's go to first baseman. Danny. Well, what about the Rockies? Tony Walters, $2 million. I don't know anything about the Rockies. I just know that they're cheap as hell.

Yeah. He's supposed to grade incredibly, defensively. He's never hit. Tender. Tough. He's gone? He's tough. Tender. Rockies are shaving money this year. Nolan's gone. Story's gone.

It's only two mill. Walter's gone. Yeah, I mean, like both those guys hedges and Walters, like you could say tough because they don't want to pay him that much. But these guys are also valuable when it comes around playoff time, like people are looking for backup catchers, defensive catchers.

negative 0.5 war this year from Tony. Yeah. Do you play every game last season, though? My theory is we're going to really see a lot of non-tend. There's a lot of toughs around the league, so I'll also say tough for him. Okay. Do they have any?

Possibly a signback, because that's always a possibility here. Yeah. I'm trying to see if they have anyone, like, coming up, catching prospects, but I don't care that much. All right. First baseman, Danny Santana. Rangers. He's projected to get $3.6 million. I'm going to say they tender him. He had a really good 2019 and they didn't trade him when they could have with the value being high. I think the Rangers are trying to win and be all in because they got the new stadium. They have players. Their lineup was terrible last year. But I'm going to say tender. Tender. Tender. At this money, they tender and look for a trade. I don't know. Are they competing, really?

It's just he played 15 games last year in 2019. I mean, 8.57 OPS. He's all the tools that he need. I just think the Rangers are the worst organization in baseball. So who knows? All right. Wow. I'm going to skip Chris Bryant's on this list because he's owed so much money,

$18 million. But they're not just going to not. They already said they're going to tender them. They have to. But I understand why they put him on this list, talking point. Travis Shaw, Blue Jays, 4.5 million. What do you think, Jake?

Ooh, that's an interesting one, huh? Because they've got infielders. They're reportedly in on other guys. They're in on a lot of other infielders. I think Shaw was good for them, and then he came down towards the end of the year. If I remember, I'll go non-tender. I think if they really want them, they probably think they could get them at a lower price tag than that. And they've got options.

Yeah, I think it's a classic. I think he should be tender, but they won't. That's what I think is going to happen this year. I think in most years, they tender him a contract this year. I know they're looking to dip into the free agent pool, according to me, as I reported, on George Springer very early. So they're looking to shave some cash so they can spend. Who's going to play third for them if he gets tender?

Vlad lost 40 pounds. Are they going to move them back? I don't think so. I didn't think so. They're in the market for guys. I think Kavana can play anywhere, and I think they're going. I'm going to say Bizio could scoot over there. They're going to sign an infielder.

They're rumored with Colin Wong. They were rumored with DJ. So. I mean, is Bo going to be too big? Can he play 3B? No. He good. Oh, Kevin.

Kevin started 32 games last season. Oh, no, no, no, no. No, no, no. Kevin started eight. Drorri started six. Panic started full. So you can move Cavan over, but yeah, I don't know. I'm going to guess that's tough for sure.

Feels tough. Feels tough. Feels like they moved, they got him. He's never part of their plan. And they're like, yeah, we'll just start a new plan. Yeah. I mean, eventually, Bo is moving to third base. He's 6, 185. He'll get the 6-2-10. That ploof diet. Bang and 3B over. Yeah. Gavin can move over. Left fielders is a super interesting crop. Eddie Rosario, Trev. This is a big one in Twins territory. Projected 9.6 million. I'm thinking non-tender. From what I've heard, non-tender.

I haven't heard anything specifically from the organization, just some of the sites and guys I follow on Twitter. I think a lot of them are saying non-tender. He'll be one of those guys. I mean, this happened with me in Minnesota. I was projected around the same, got non-tendered, and then eventually signed with the A. somebody's going to, he'll be in a major league uniform starting somewhere.

But I don't, I don't think he'll be back with the twins. I think I'm going to say tender. I think they don't know what's going on with Nelson Cruz. That's the only thing where I step back. Like if the twins and Nelson Cruz know that they're going to link up and do it again, then I think you can see Eddie go. But there's something to know in what you're going to get, man. and I mean, you know, it kind of sucks at his name's Eddie, but Steady Eddie, man.

I mean, he's around an 800 OPS every year. You just know what you're going to get. Like, he's not an OPP guy. He's got good power. Like, I think you bring him back. He's been a part of that organization for a long time. I mean, he played baseball in Trevor. I remember him fucking forever.

What's your first memory of Eddie Rosario? Minor League side, like, just watching this guy hit, like, cool batting stance, like always super quiet. I have a ton of Eddie Rosario stories. Probably not pod. Okay. Acceptable, but I love this guy. The only, the reason I think

he won't be back is because of a guy named Alex Kirillov. Yeah. I think he's ready. And I think they would like to have them out there. They have Jake Cave also. And then obviously Z German

and my favorite, Byron Buxton. So, I mean, their outfield has been one of the funest outfields to watch in all of baseball. And Eddie's been a big part of that because he throws the shit out of the ball out there in the outfield, too. But I think Kiroloff is ready. Just tough, man. I mean, you move on from Nelson Cruz and Eddie Rosario. That's like giving away 70 home runs. That's a lot of games.

I don't think you're moving on from Nelson Cruz. Yeah, that's the part I have no idea. I mean, he very easily could be back. I think he's pretty comfortable there and likes it. We also in left field have Tommy Fan. for the Padres. Now they traded for him. I think they like him.

$8 million projected. He did get stabbed. And he's suing the strip club over it. Have I been there? Getting stabbed at that strip club or just at that strip club? I have been there before. Yeah. Did it feel stabby?

That's a party people. I'm not that kind of guy, honestly, but I've been there. Mm-hmm. I mean, they're going to tender him, right? Seems like it. Just to let him go. I mean, they got Croninworth in that trade, so it's almost still a win for them.

He had a rough 20-20. I could see, I'll, I'll flip a coin on it, so I'll go tough. Like, I could just see them, you know, Tommy had that weird off-the-field thing. Keep it young. I can see it too, because, again, these guys want to spend money. And these are the kind of guys that we're talking about, this offseason that are going to get non-tendered guys that normally wouldn't get and he's he could be he could be in that

if he's a clubhouse wonder how much it hits the clubhouse because they're trying to build like a win at all cost we're in it the owner said if we're not a contender like you're all going to be fired and shit like that so you wonder that if they also explain it we need to have this money to go get Trevor bower yeah they also like just committed money to clev who's going to miss the year yeah i don't know how much that factors in. They're spending. So I don't know. I'm going to say that that's tender.

Kyle Schwabber, also in this left field pool in the Cubs. I mean, all the rumors looking to save money, looking to move on, $7.9 million for him is the projected. It'd be kind of big news if he gets, just because he's been such a name, part of that run with the Cubs, where he just played in the World Series, and that's all hilarious. but is the D.H. staying in the National League. Yeah, that's a big thing.

I can never get a read on Kyle Schwerber's career. Like, in my head, he's a banger and a scary guy, and his numbers are pretty damn good. You know, where does he fit in the field? Obviously, that's the thing in the National League. Like, this is another one of those ones. Right on the fence, and in a normal year, would he be tendered, but he could be non-tendered,

especially if they're trying to cut payroll. non-tentered and traded that's always it'd be the first part of that core to go right that young core he feels like the name on this list that it happens and if you're a baseball fan on the outside

you're like what but it kind of feels that way but I'm also going to fade myself and go non because he hit 38 bombs in 2019 like that's where this weird 59 game season yes shorbo wasn't great but normally he'd have

four more months to clean it up. So I'm going to say no, because even if his tender number is $8 million, or we're at a sheet guessing, like there has to be at least an AL team that would give you a flyer prospect for Kyle Schwerber. I mean, he's got potentially 40 in the bat. Mystery team.

Non-tender trade. Minnesota Twins. My other team. Tampa Bay Rays. Platoon him. That would be a nightmare for us, yes. Yeah. You know, put him, hit him against Ritey's where he's got an 859 OPS career.

Gross. D.HM. He's a perfect guy for an organization like that. We liked Renfro on the race. We don't like Swarbo. This is a little different. You know, this could be, you know, I don't know how he hits against Garrett Cole. We could look that up.

Hi. DVD. Thank you. He's on it. It doesn't get, it gets pretty boring. It gets pretty boring after that. Center fielders, you got Almora, DeShields, Goodwin, Heredia.

Don't care. Either way. Sorry, I'm not trying to be mean, but... Rightfielders, Ben Gamble for the Brewers. Chase Peterson for the Brewers. Huge. Chase Peterson, 700K. I don't know. Gosh, we're 2 for 14 with two walks against coal.

Five strike ads. He's out. Tampa's out. is out on Kyle Schwerber. No, but I really could see him going there. The Schwerber thing's getting me frustrated. Because, again, we'll see. I think the Cubs do tender them,

but this is where I'll never get, if you're a team like the Orioles, and sure, I don't know all the financials and everything that's going on. But if you could get a shot at this guy in a hitter's ballpark and get Schorbo right again, flip them for three prospects.

Like, I just don't get why more teams don't take a chance like that. I mean, Schwarber? Well, they have Jose Martinez, the Cubs, also on this list. What if they did Schwarber and take on Jose Martinez's 2 mil? There you go. That's business. That's how the numbers work.

What are you trade in there? Some home runs for base hits. Yeah. That's tough. That would be... I really, really want to see Kyle Schwerber in that. Their numbers are fairly similar. OPS and OPS Plus.

I mean, obviously, Shorebur out homers him. But Martinez has a 115 OPS plus and Shorebor has a 113. Trev, did you have a good idea that you were going to get non-tendered? Like, had you had the twins and your agent been in discussions, or did you know it was a coin flip, or how'd that happen? I think I kind of knew was going to happen. I thought they should have traded me the year before. they moved Miguel Snow to right field

so I could play third base which you know like anybody was like anybody that saw that was like what's going on here? Like Miguel's an athlete we know he's an athlete but put him in right field that doesn't make any sense so that Joe at first and they needed Miguel at third I thought I was going to get traded

the year before and then new regime came in you know I think the writing was on the wall I was hurt most of 2016 but I got got the call early, which was nice. They let me have a full off season to shot myself around. Nice.

Weird day, though, man. Very sad day. Yeah. Very sad day, yeah. It ended a 11, 12 years, 13 years in the organization. Who broke the news? I think I did. No, no, no.

Who broke the news to you? Unless you non-tended yourself. I don't know. It was either, this is actually. kind of funny. I was on my way back home for a workout. I get a call from a 612 number not save. That's Minneapolis. Don't pick it up.

And I listen to the voicemail. It's fucking, it's either Falvi or who's the other guy there? I can't remember. The other, there's like two of them. I feel bad. I don't remember his name. I know his name, but I forget it. And so he basically says, say, give me a call back

and I already know what's going to happen. So I call him back. We, excuse me. excuse me that's that's the whole fucking part of the story I just ruined the whole story calls me and lets me know on the message that I've been non-tendered and then says call me back

if you need to like have any questions about it and so I never called it back I mean what question is a great tactic I mean just always call from a number you know the person doesn't know so they won't answer and leave it as a voice now smart move

I went home told my wife and then that was it man Damn. Damn. All right. Well, tough for you. It is tough. I've been non-tender to a shit ton now.

It's never fun. Vogelback Brewers, they got a lot, guys. Brewers are going to be on-tent, or tough everyone there. It's all guys they just kind of picked up. Pitchers. I'm kind of losing interest in this game.

A little bit. Matt's $5 million for the Mets. Maybe that could see that being tough. It was pretty bad this year. John Gray, 5.9 for the Rockies. He's been good. Yeah. I think those guys both get tendered.

Pitchers are in a unique position where it's like you just want to hoard pitchers. Are there any really expensive? There are any really expenses? Matt Barnes for the Red Sox 4.1? It's an interesting one. I can see that being tough. He's the reliever that stuck out.

Brazier, one million. That's an interesting one. A lot of Red Sox Yankees names on here, so we'll probably get lost in that. Simber for the Indians had 800K, but the Indians bounced him because they're trying to save a lot of money. It's kind of scary to look at, man.

Let's go just, I'm just going to control F, Indians, and I can tell you who's being tender. Or who's being tuft, because the Indians aren't keeping anyone. So Hedges is gone. Delino DeShields is gone. Tyler, Nake, but that's the whole trade. That's their whole last two trades is all those people.

You know, the Bauer and the Clef trade is literally hedges, DeShields, Naquin. And they have people coming up, but, you know, it's a weird look. Like those trades kind of get finalized, sort of, if they non-tender all those guys. But they wouldn't even pay Brad Hand 10 mil for one year or Simber 800K. Not that Simber's fantastic, but. They're going to trade the best shortstop in baseball. So, yeah.

They're really doing it. Baseball is weird, man. I mean, they've got Scott Alexander, the relieves. for the Dodgers. Career 318RA, 292 last year, a potential nontender at one mill. Baseball's got to figure out in this upcoming labor negotiation.

That shouldn't be a conversation. A lot of the one-mill guys are not going to get nontender. There's a lot of guys on here that's not going to be those guys. Tell that to Simber, dude. Deep enough where they're going to get. What's that? Simber's about to kick your ass. He's a stud on the Marlins now.

Oh, yeah. I love them on the Marlins. Yeah, jeets. Yeah, Jeeots. Jets, man. That's it. That's the whole episode. We did everything we wanted to do.

We finished it. Thank you. Subscribe, like, leave a comment. Bleed. Eat a bug. Two bugs. See, uh, that's it. You see BBD's hat today, Treve?

I did see it. It's a nice hat. It says eat a bug. It's from the store. Merch store. Go get some merch. Add. Merch.

Did you have something to say? How did you guys not know what grain? are. Well, I know that there's grains in wood, Trev, but like the phrasing is very... I might have fucked up. I'm not a good promoter. It also very much seemed like you were giving away the bats. It very much seemed like you were giving away the bats. I'm not. I'm not giving those bats away. Okay. I said I went three winners, bro. I like went above and beyond. It's badass, dude. I didn't even get, I didn't even get approval for that. I just said, fuck it. I'm doing three. There was just like, there was probably five just slight misses throughout the tweet that made it disastrous. Can you tell me?

Are you just talking shit right now? Looked like an ad for the bats. Looked like you were giving away bats. On one of the biggest. Well, I showed the bats. On one of the biggest promotional days of the year, it looked like you were giving away Hall of Fame baseball bats. That would have been sick. Which would have been dope.

Because it just says, okay, here's my John Boy Media giveaway. Tweet. The first are giveaway tweet. I know, but you just, some people don't read it. That's two. Two Hall of Fame bats is the next thing. So it seems like the giveaway is the bats because it's just there. Two sets of grains.

I don't know. Maybe that's baseball talking. Yeah. Guess the number of combined grains. And the Lincoln item. Dude, and the other bat. The other. The other.

bat, if you showed the other bat that you did on like what a grain is, it was much more obvious. Like, oh, I get it. We're counting those lines. But these ones, like, where would he count the grain? And I don't want to show the grains, Jim, that's the whole point.

The other thing. I'm having them guess how many there are. How many grains do you think are in this bat? I can't see any. Is it a maple bat? No idea. Because if it's maple, it's not going to have grains. Definitely tree. And I think the other thing, Trev, which I guess can be a reflection of our stuff,

is how many people actually get into serious wood bat baseball? Like, grains on a bat don't become a thing for a lot of hitters. And hey, that is very show of you, but it's also not show for 98% of your followers. I never played with the woodbat, Trev. Wasn't good enough to ever be like, I'm going to play in a woodbat league. Yeah. It's on me. I haven't educated the people enough.

Do a sequence episode on grain. Someone said, when are you going to do your sequence episode on bats? Grain's. Type of bats people use. I would love to do it. I have a shit ton of bats. Grains are important,

but the only thing is, Jim, is the ash bat is the one with grains, and people are moving away from ash. It's all maple now. And maple doesn't have grains, per se. They don't aren't like an ash bat. So I guess I'm, maybe I am in deep into,

bat. Who's got the granious bat in MLB? Hitting Twitter. Grainiest bat and MLB. Who is it? You don't really know. You don't want to have all the grains because then people will say you're not show. Like show is when you have seven to like 10 grains and they're all very straight.

There's always talk about Chipper Jones. If it had more than seven grains, he would throw it away. Like he wouldn't use that bat. Wow. When I would get a dozen bats, I'd get four to five of them would be like

pearls like seven to ten grains and you would just like lock those up those are your guys and then the ones would think a bunch of it looked like a book

Was it partially you doing that to feel more show like I'm sure a couple of those other bats were okay Oh I used them still But like if you one day

were like I need a little something You know when the bat guy comes to the store, the bat guy comes to the clubhouse and he lays out all the bats, you know, in spring training, we saw them doing that at twin spring training. Let's make a video from that bat guy with you and just call it bat talk. It'll be one episode we do next spring training. Trevor Plu shows his bat. Yeah. I would love it.

I have so many questions about bats and his ends where yours bends. You know, this is a weird thing and I'll make this short because we're probably been going on for two hours talking about. but God knows what. Oh, people have logged out. They're gone. So that's how, let me log out of this podcast. Yeah. Baseball is so weird because you pick your instruments.

Like everyone's glove is different. Everyone's bat is different. It's very interesting to me that happens. And why does it happen? So maybe we will go into it a little bit. We'll deep dive into Bat Twitter and see how that works. All right. Okay.

I like that. He's got tagged in some stupid. Sorry I'm not a master promoter. I will... Treve, it became the best promotion, the most talked about promotion. Thank you. I did a video about it.

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