Talkin' Baseball (MLB Podcast) - 262 | Yankees Re-Sign DJ LeMahieu & Phillies Sign Archie Bradley

Episode Date: January 15, 2021

The New York Yankees have re-signed DJ LeMahieu for 6 years and $90 million and the Phillies picked up reliever Archie Bradley for 1 year and $6M! Jomboy, Jake, & Plouffe react! Learn more about your ...ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Starting point is 00:00:01 Surprise episode time. DJ LaMayhew to the Yankees, Archie Bradley to the Phillies. We got news to discuss. What's going on, everybody? Welcome to talking baseball. Thank you very much for hanging out with us for a little bit on this Friday afternoon as we have a little bit of some surprise signings.
Starting point is 00:00:38 We got Archie Bradley going in the Phillies. We got DJ LaMayhew going to the Yankees. We almost had Brad Hand going to the Mets. got pulled away from us. Jose Martinez goes to the Mets. And it's arbitration day. So there's a lot of stuff coming. It's kind of boring,
Starting point is 00:00:54 but a lot of guys are just remaining with their clubs for a new price. My name is Jimmy. Jake is sitting next to me. We got Trevor Plouf out in California, waking up early for the surprise app. Bug Bug, bug dude behind the dish producing. Here we go. Trev, when did you find out about the news?
Starting point is 00:01:13 Did you wake up real early to this? It was like 6 a. at Maritime. Yeah, I saw the text from Kyle and it was, it was, it wasn't finalized yet. There was no numbers. It was a nearing completion type thing. And I knew. I knew it was going to come today. Surprise episode, all that good stuff. I knew you guys were going to be in a great mood. I knew I was going to have to temper all of your expectations a little bit. But here we are. I'm excited to talk about it. We got actually a text flex last night saying, be ready to have a late night today.
Starting point is 00:01:49 Yesterday they said be ready for late night. So we thought this news was coming tonight, came this morning. We were a little prepped for it. We thought it could be Kluber. There's been some Kluber Yankees rumors circling. There's a lot of Kluber rumor circling right now. But we're not talking about that yet until he signs with the Yankees later today. Yeah, man, it's exciting.
Starting point is 00:02:09 I got the DJ texts like you boys, about 630 in the morning. It was about to Peloton. decided not to. I still had time to. Oh, but it's a new day, you know? Yeah, like my day changed. Yeah, yeah. And I mean, I'm sure I'll do it later, but.
Starting point is 00:02:25 No, it's kind of like when there's a snow day, but school isn't canceled, but you're not going to listen. Right. Because it's snowing outside. Right. And your whole mind is different. You've got one buddy who's got the mom who's like not going to let their kid go
Starting point is 00:02:36 in the snow anyways because it's kind of dangerous. Yeah, yeah. If he's not even coming, I'm not even going to show up. Yeah, exactly. At all. Yeah. We are live for everyone. today Adoni, Batisse, already in the chat.
Starting point is 00:02:47 Throwing paper because he's the man. Exciting. Exciting. Now, we just, Trevor, Jake and I just recorded talking Yanks. That's where we get all our Yankees, fanhood, bias, excitement out. And even that episode, Trev, I opened up with this needed to happen. It's very exciting. We got news that DJ's going to the Yankees. It doesn't make this Yankees team better than last season's Yankees team because he was on last.
Starting point is 00:03:12 So it's not like a game changer. but for the organization, if they lost him, that's kind of a game changer in the wrong direction. So the fact that they brought him back is good, just like organization. They're like, oh, my God, we're like not crumbling idiots now. We retain him.
Starting point is 00:03:28 But obviously the Yankees need to make a lot more moves. So, you know, we have tempered. There's a lot going on. And they still need pitching. Like I said last episode, they have no pitchers besides call that you can 100% trust. So there's a lot to talk. Do we want to do DJ first?
Starting point is 00:03:43 because he's kind of a bigger topic, and then we'll do Archie, and then we'll do... Let's get Trevor. You and I have discussed on talking Yanks, and we are part of it. Trevor Plouf, the mic is yours. No, I'm excited for Yankees fans. You guys should be excited,
Starting point is 00:03:58 although this was inevitable. I mean, we talked about this at length. There wasn't a lot of suitors. That doesn't mean that DJ is not a good player. It doesn't mean that he's not worth the money he got. It just meant that there weren't a lot of suitors. There's not a lot of team spending money. We've seen that this offseason.
Starting point is 00:04:12 and three or four teams have been involved in the free agency this year. And like you're saying, if the Yankees didn't bring him back, I mean, are they the Yankees anymore? No, really, really, no. It would have been a big, big hit to, like, the ego of Yankees or like the idea of the organization. I said this on talking Yanks, but Ryan Rucco, who comes on a lot, and you might know him from either baseball or he caused a lot of NBA games,
Starting point is 00:04:35 he gave like a pretty passionate speech where he's like, DJ LeMay, who's been the best player for the New York Yankees for two years. and they haven't, like, won anything. So if you're just moving on from him, that's a terrible look. So as that weird Yankee pride that you partially hate, Trev, we are feeling a little of that today. I'm happy for you guys. And I'm happy for DJ because, you know, he came to New York on a pretty team-friendly deal.
Starting point is 00:05:03 Prove it deal. And prove himself. Yeah. And got the big payday, dude. Like, this is what you work for. You know, he got the bag. You know, maybe this is his second bag, I guess, but this is the real one. And he should be excited.
Starting point is 00:05:17 He seemed to thrive when he got there. I think he likes the park, the way it plays for him offensively is great. But he also, to me, you know, when you think in New York, like, oh, can this guy handle the bright lights? Can he be in the spotlight? DJ's perfect for it because he doesn't care about all that stuff. I think that's what you guys love most about him. It doesn't affect him. He goes about his business and does what he does.
Starting point is 00:05:42 lot of people that we've talked to with the Yankees say it actually does affect him in the good way. Like he likes being held to the burner every game. Like he likes that intense mode is where he like likes me. He doesn't like it seems like he's like nonchalant don't care. But it's actually he's like intense all the time. Like really care. So and he's he's got a lot of quotes. But a lot of that is fan service as well.
Starting point is 00:06:07 I want to go over the deal because people that are listening to this might not. Before that, it's funny. We'd always come across this. But what speaks in New York is either hyper flash, you're Reggie Jackson, or your anti-flash, your Paul O'Neill, DJ Lemayhew, and he is the antithesis of that, if that word's right. What speaks is numbers, productivity.
Starting point is 00:06:28 And he's done that. He's the good. It's very true. The deal, if you are, you know, this is the first you're hearing of it and you're coming for information. Thanks for using SS News. it's a six-year deal for $90 million. Now, let me walk through the process and how this came to be
Starting point is 00:06:47 and why it's a win for both sides a little bit for people that don't know. And Trev obviously want to hear your opinion on this. DJ wanted big money. He wanted close to $100 million. The Yankees' main priority is the luxury tax, which Trev totally separate conversation. It should not be the main priority. It sucks that it's the main priority.
Starting point is 00:07:08 But it exists. That's the world they're playing in right now. They didn't want to take a big hit. They only have 25 million of wiggle room before they hit that luxury tax number. So they wanted the average annual value down, the AAV for short. I don't know why they do that, not just say per year. They wanted the yearly short. So the Yankees offered DJ four years, 75 was kind of what got reported, the first offer.
Starting point is 00:07:36 He took that and shopped it around. and we just found out that the Blue Jays actually offered slightly more. They offered them four years, $78 million, if these numbers are accurate. He came back to the Yankees and said, hey, this is what they got, this is what, what I got. And the Yankees said, hey, like, we can give you more money, but we can't do it in four years. If you want $80 to $90 million, we need to stretch it over six years because we can't take the yearly hit to pay you $20 or whatever it is. so they agreed there. So, you know, I told Yankees fans, you have to think about this as the Yankees are paying him for the first four years.
Starting point is 00:08:15 And all the money goes to those four years. If whatever he does in your five and six, they're going to kind of look at as like gravy because they got less money per year. The Yankees have done this with a lot of players. Arod, they straight up ate the rest of his contract. Ellsbury, they straight up ate the rest of his contract. Chase Hadley had a ton of money. They traded him away in a cash dump to the Padres. So if they need to do that, if they need to trade DJ as a cash dump,
Starting point is 00:08:39 or they just need to make him the backup utility player when he's 37, 38 years old, they're saying, you know what, but we got those four years, hopefully, that we feel fine about it now. That's kind of the way this contract breaks down, the way I see it, interested in the trap if you see it that way or disagree. But that's, I think, the gist of it. Yeah, I think we're going to have to see what the details are. You know, that's kind of a vague thing.
Starting point is 00:09:03 It's straight up. We've been told by a pretty good source. it's 15 per year straight up. Straight up. No opt-ins. No opt-outs. No funny business. Just straight up. That's surprising to me. To be honest. I was also surprised by that, but we were told that that's what it is.
Starting point is 00:09:19 You know, I think like you were saying, it is, you know, a win-win for both sides. The Yankees, they do want to stay under the threshold. I understand that teams are trying to do that. It's not a cap. So they can spend as much money over it as they want, but teams tend to, to use it as a soft cap. But DJ, yeah, he wanted his number. I told you guys, this is like his, this is his payday, man.
Starting point is 00:09:43 Like, get as much money as you want as you can. He doesn't care about the years. He's not saying, well, the AAVs only 15 million. He's looking at that guaranteed chunk of change. And like you're saying it, year five and six, like there's no guarantee he's going to be a Yankee or even playing baseball. I hope he is. I hope he's still doing it.
Starting point is 00:09:59 And, you know, he's figured out how to work his body and he's able to play into his late 30s. That'd be great for everybody involved. But I do agree that they are, you know, they're looking for these next three, four years to be very, very productive. And then with a guy like DJ, he's a groomer, man. Like you can, your young guys being around a guy like DJ
Starting point is 00:10:19 that make you, that counts for something and that is worth money. It's worth a lot of damn money. You know, player development is a huge thing. And then when you get to the big leagues, learning how to be a big leaguer and a successful at that, DJ can help these young guys out. So I think it's a win-win all the way around.
Starting point is 00:10:37 Who knows about the Blue Jays offer and all the other offers? Like that's a lot of agents speak and hearsay and reporters who work for the agents, blah, blah, blah. But I think in the end, both sides are happy. And the Yankees fans are happy. Yeah, it's, I mean, it's big time rumor mill with that agent stuff. We've heard a lot of different things come out, and you never know if it's angling for the next thing or not.
Starting point is 00:11:01 Yeah, the AIV thing is. interesting, and I think we, you know, look back at Liam Hendricks earlier this week. He got a last year on his contract that the White Sox said, we don't care if you pitch for us or not, and we're going to give you 15 mil a year. So I think the Yankees are somewhat viewing the DJ thing the same way. I mean, you know, what production do you really think you're going to get out of a 39-year, any 39-year-old? And we'll see how DJ's tools evolve as he gets older. Me and Jimmy disagree a little bit.
Starting point is 00:11:33 We'll get your thoughts on a trip, but... A little bit, because I'm kind of spin-zoning here. It's not significant, but... The Yankees have had players whose skill set diminish like crazy in these high-thirty contracts, A. Rod Ellsbury. DJ's not really a power hitter. He does... This is the caveat that changes.
Starting point is 00:11:54 He does hit the ball hard. Like, his skill is exit velo, but he's a gap-to-gap-to-line hitter, and he can move over to first base or third. And he's never, speed isn't his game. So I think, you know, there is a chance that his, his skill may not diminish as bad as if it's an outfielder or a shortstop second base power hitter. I am just kind of spin zoning myself into this to be a little more happy. Do you have your phone by your mic at all, Trev? There's, oh, wait.
Starting point is 00:12:26 A little feedback. Do you hear feedback? I do not. Oh, does the audience hear feedback? I think they do. I think if Treve does a quick unplug, re-plug, that's the thing I think it is, because looking at levels.
Starting point is 00:12:37 All right, a little unplug, re-plug on your mic, Trev. Sorry, Daddy, Trev, we love you. But if you don't hear it, it's probably your mic. And yeah, well, you know, you can start doing turkey math. Something we love on here is the, you know, in your head, are you mentally paying, you know, are the Yankees saying, you know, DJ's worth $25 million this year or $30 million this year,
Starting point is 00:12:57 and it'll be worth $25 million the next and 20. And then by the end of it, you know, DJ LeMay, he might be worth little to nothing. But to stay, the thing that does have us really jazzed up, Trevor, is, because I started. Did Trev answer the,
Starting point is 00:13:14 how do you think his tools are going to continue, Treve? I don't know, man. You know, it's just people age differently. You know, you're talking about him hitting the ball hard. He probably swings the ball. He swings the bat hard. You know, like is his bat speed going to, stay there.
Starting point is 00:13:32 Like is he going to be able to adjust to, you know, what pitchers are going to be able to do to him, living higher up in the zone and all that. Like, probably the next couple of years he's going to be the same guy. And he seems to me like he's a guy that can make adjustments. I don't see him like falling completely off a cliff. Do I see him putting up MVP three seasons? Probably not. You know, maybe the next couple of years.
Starting point is 00:13:56 Yeah, he could absolutely do that again. But, you know, as he ages, things just get a little bit hard. harder. And that's going to be up to the Yankees to figure out, okay, how can we make, like, what can we do to make it easier on him? Like, can we platoon him? Can we give him the off days that he needs so his body can recuperate? I think they'll be able to do a good job with that. I think the way teams look at players now and they understand the age curve and they're able to prepare for that. So I wouldn't put it past the Yankees to have a plan already in place. I look, okay, we'll see where you're at in three years. and then this is what we want to do with you. And that could involve D.H.
Starting point is 00:14:34 First base, like you said, he could be essentially, like, I was referencing before. Those latter years of his contract, he's going to be also like a hitting coach and just a mentor figure. This works out for everybody involved. I really think it does.
Starting point is 00:14:50 I like that. Where were you going? That Stanton might have that DH spot plug, but DJ, if you guys don't watch a lot of Yankees game, he has looked good at third and at first base too, So, yeah, it's going to be interesting to see how it develops. What's got us jazzed up, Trev, is that $15 million per. We started dreaming earlier in the week that, you know,
Starting point is 00:15:11 what kind of funny business were they going to get into? I was wondering if they were going to do like Strasbourg style, maybe do 15 this year and 25 next year or something like that. Turns out they stretched out the years, gave a little more coin, and that's kind of what we just talked about. So the Yankees, we think, have about 10 to 15,000, 15 to 20 to play with.
Starting point is 00:15:31 It kind of depends how arbitration goes with. And I think our big thing is we'd like one starting pitcher, one relief pitcher. I don't know. You know, that face you just made doesn't excite us. And we went through, on talking Yangs, we went through the Gambit. We named every pitcher. We went from Tyone to Kluber to Tanaka to everyone. Kentana, Hendrix.
Starting point is 00:15:55 You name it, we got it. The big thing is, what the DJs, signing that they weren't the Yankees weren't going to make a single move until the DJ thing either happened or it didn't happen now knowing the AV it's either okay are we giving DJ 20 to 25 million a year because that that dams up the rest of this off season it's closed off that's what the yanks are doing that's all 15 kind of opens a dam a little bit let's creak it down and we'll see what flows in I think cash is probably now trying to go make a trade because he loves making trades um and then he'll look to the free
Starting point is 00:16:30 agent market. But if you want to hear like fully mine and Jake's thoughts and theories and joke ideas and real ideas, go to talking yanks. Trev, Kluber is the thought process now. Everyone's turning. His workout guy, Eric Cressy, is the Yankees' head of body. Strength and conditioning guy. Strength and conditioning guy. That's what it is. Head of body. That's what he says. I'm the head of the bodies. I'm the head of the bodies here. All these bodies. I built all of them. That's what he like. Another connection, Jim, too. Who's that?
Starting point is 00:17:02 Matt Blake. Matt Blake. Oh, yeah, Indians. Yankees pitching coach was in Cleveland while Klube was still doing it. So there's some connected dots. The rumors are that he's going to, Kluber only wants a one-year deal, which is obvious.
Starting point is 00:17:13 Klob, you're not getting a two-year deal. Kind of crazy that the reports are framed that way. They're saying like 6 to 8-mill, Trev. That's too high for me to take a flyer on Kluber. Do you have any thoughts on Kluber or targets for the Yankees or let's wrap up the Yankees part of this show? show. That's wrap it up. You know, I think what you're saying is true.
Starting point is 00:17:34 Cashman, man. He's going to have to go out there and explore the trade market. Expendable guys, in my opinion, for the Yankees. I think that you're going to be looking at Clint. You know, Clint could be a guy that they look to trade. I also think maybe they're going to maybe look some, excuse me, look to move some money off the books as well. So I don't really know the. That would be like Ottavino or Gary, but Gary's got no value. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:57 Adavino's 20 mil, I think. So that would be him. Ottvino's making 20. No, no, 10? 10, I know. 9. 9, so it was Adavino plus Gary got to 20 or something like that. I don't think either those guys should go.
Starting point is 00:18:10 So maybe they're going to look for a straight trade. I don't know what kind of prospects they have coming up. If you're looking, I think Clint is a great trade piece for them. Like he had a solid year last year. If they moved, and this is just, I think both of our Yankee opinion, with what Clint did last year and his pedigree, if they're moving him, it would have to be a very significant piece, especially with the trade market.
Starting point is 00:18:30 I mean, he's got a lot of control left. And with how injury ridden the Yanke's outfield is. We're thinking, and this is a friend of the pod, Jameson, who's coming off surgery, he's making 2-25 next year. People aren't sure what he's about. We can see the Yankees doing a couple lower-level prospects for him. I don't know. This trade market has been interesting this year.
Starting point is 00:18:51 We saw the big money starting pitchers go with not the biggest returns. I see Cashman, with the money left over, I think he would rather take a flyer on Tyone than spend $6 million on Kluber or $8 million on Jose Cantana. You guys are going to hate what I'm about to say right now. I love it, and then let's go to Archie Bradley. Yeah, you're going to hate this. But I've mentioned it before on this show.
Starting point is 00:19:20 Here we go, Chris Archer. What's up of Louvreut? No, I mean, he's the best. He's the highest value he's ever going to be right now. Yeah, but he's also, but that's why you got to keep him. He's not making any money. So he's. And but he's also been the best performing first basement,
Starting point is 00:19:36 top five performing first baseman while healthy since he got the everyday job. You can't, you can't move up. You can't. But he's really cheap. So like obviously, you know, it's not like he's blocked. Like he's the starting first base. So no, unless they really want to move DJ to first and Gley. to short and bring someone in maybe next year you can do that.
Starting point is 00:19:59 I'll say this, it's not an option. Again, that's like, that's, the way they, the way of DJ didn't come back, you know,
Starting point is 00:20:06 and we're saying that's not the Yankees, then moving on from Voight right now, like a stud at first base, that's not the Yankees. We would be sad for a week. It would be a dick punch. And then Jimmy would say, okay,
Starting point is 00:20:17 Andrewton Simmons and a starting pitcher. And we'd kind of move on because that's baseball. It's also fandom. You just talk yourself into being happy. Yes. value-wise, you're right, but also if you're shelling out money to people, you want to keep the cheap guys. And Luke Void is cheap right now.
Starting point is 00:20:34 Sure, sure. But if you're looking to acquire young cheap pitching and somebody might have a surplus in that and looking for a power bat, I don't know. Look, I think the Yankees are in a good position. They got to find pitching. DJ was the priority. They got that done. Now they need to focus on pitching.
Starting point is 00:20:50 Because like you guys are saying, like he doesn't make them a World Series contender alone. You got to fill out that rotation. The pitching needs a lot of help. They need help. Yeah. So, you know, I think, like, Cash obviously had a plan. And he wasn't going to bid against himself. They figured a way to get all sides happy.
Starting point is 00:21:09 And now it's time to turn his attention to the free agent pitching market or the trade market, whatever it may be. Yeah. And one reliever came off the board already. And that was Archie Bradley, who goes to the Phillies, a team with like, I mean, at one point last year, the Phillies had the worst bullpen historically. in ERA since like the dawn of time. They need a lot of help.
Starting point is 00:21:29 They also, I mean, don't forget they did trade for Alvarado from the Rays, which is an under the radar move because if that dude's healthy, he can be a big piece. They have Nairus. Now they have Bradley and Alvarado. It's looking better than last year. I wouldn't be surprised if they go grab more people. But let's talk a little bit about this Archie Bradley contract and all that.
Starting point is 00:21:51 Do you have it in front of you or memorized? It was one year six. one year six Archie Bradley That's kind of what he was expected To get What did the Reds have to give him in arbitration It was expected to be one for six
Starting point is 00:22:03 So again it gets into that fickle category Could the Reds have flipped him for a low-level prospect If you start playing that game Who really cares It's fun I was having fun with it Yesterday because the Phillies were Historically bad last year
Starting point is 00:22:18 And yeah They've got a couple pieces Now Alvarado I like that as a flyer a guy with all the arm talent in the world. He's coming off of big surgery. The race just threw him into the postseason to see what he had. I had a ton of Phillies people tweeting at me about Connor Brogden. Go twirl it, kid.
Starting point is 00:22:36 You'd still like to see them get another body or two to get back to where they were. But I like Archie Bradley, man. I mean, he's a guy who could throw two innings if you need it. We've seen him close. We've seen him set up. Who makes your bullpen better? Philly is going to need him to get. a lot of outs and hey there's there's a world where he can do that i mean archie bradley's been a
Starting point is 00:22:58 good baseball player you ever take him yard trev seeing the book i don't know if i faced him or not i was just trying to look at who else the phillies have one of the guys you mentioned neris he kind of been up and down but when he's right he's really good alvarado clearly has like you were saying all the arm talent in the world archie's another guy he's got velo they need vilo i read a stat they threw you never faced them 400 pitches over 95 miles an hour and the Dodgers threw like 900 and something pitches over 95 miles an hour in the bullpen so like they need to catch up in the velo department archie will help him do that another guy they have can't forget about him is sir anthony dominis and now i think he had surgery when last year he had tj i think it was
Starting point is 00:23:48 mid to late summer, so I don't know. It might be tight for the end of the year. I don't think they can bank on it. I think that was like, we got to look. I'm trying to find it right now. BPD if you could look at it at when he had his surgery, but that guy is a stud when he's healthy. Who's this?
Starting point is 00:24:06 So they're starting to get the pieces together. They need a both. I still think this could be a really good team. He had it in June. Or no, July. In July he had it this year? Oh, shit, man. So it'd be tight.
Starting point is 00:24:23 Be tight for the end of the year. And it ain't happening. You need that full, like 18 months. Yeah. Jake, who are Phillies fans tweeting about Connor Brogdon? Connor Brogden season, baby. Get on. The train is leaving the station.
Starting point is 00:24:37 And, hey, a reminder to our talking baseball fans, you guys know your team better than us, because I don't have the full scouting report on Con Brog. Well, his debut went a little rough again. the Baltimore Orioles, 1.1, 3 earned runs. And he bounces back. Yeah, he bounced back with scoreless. He had a clean September.
Starting point is 00:24:57 Cobro season. You know, clean September, six appearances, zero earned runs. Just, you know, so they're holding on to that September. They also remember they have Spencer Howard, who people were all over. He was the talk of the town in spring training. Didn't have a great 2020. So they got some pieces coming. And this, it's interesting to me is like, this is like a team with personality.
Starting point is 00:25:24 You know, they already have Harper. They got, um, adding Archie Bradley to it. Like this is, I think is that good for Philly? Is it bad for Philly? I don't know. I guess they probably don't care. They just want those bullets that he's got. So it's good to keep going.
Starting point is 00:25:40 Hey, uh, Gerardi's good when he has relievers to organize and utilize. So go get him more pieces because you gave him nothing last year. kind of like Gerardi strength his bullpen and they gave him the worst ever and he was like guys Yeah and right now Treve That line up can go with anyone man On any given day
Starting point is 00:26:01 Spencer Howard Spencer Howard He's right now penciled into the back end of the rotation It would be interesting if they had him as a little flex piece Little bullpen starting action if they need it So yeah they need a little more pitching Doesn't every team Yeah I'm more excited to see how the Real Mudo sweepstakes
Starting point is 00:26:18 plays out at this point. I still think it's Phillies and the Nats, which either way, this NLE East, man, is going to be a disaster. This team might end up in last place in that division. And they're a pretty damn good team with a hefty payroll. They got young studs, established people. Like, this just said, that's going to be tough. First place in the NLEs could be 89 wins. I mean, Reese Hoskins, Alex, Alec, Alec Baum came up and was an absolute stud last year. Right. I mean, like I'm, I'm, I'm, saying so you got these young guys coming up cementing their spot in the lineup obviously you got brice harper for the next 30 years mccutcheon you can keep going on and on they need to bring back rio mootah i think it's inevitable at this point i think it's kind of a staring contest just like the yankees were yeah that's how it feels to me at this point as well but we'll see i've got the gnats as a deep cut i think i think they need one more righty bat i think they've got their rotation guys they're locked into so Real Mudo can tie into them a little bit, and it would be a nice little twist
Starting point is 00:27:25 to screw to Philly. But maybe I'm just in my own world. Always live there, love there. Hey, rewind. Back to the Yankees talk. Perfect. We were told 13 mil is left. Kay is saying that there's 20 mil left, which is like, if there's 20 mil left, you can go
Starting point is 00:27:44 get Tanaka plus Kluber plus a reliever. If there's 20 mil off, that's game changer. Fast forward. Okay. Next up, kind of an ancillary move here that no one really cares about. Trevor, you'd hate this tweet. Oh, no. DJ Deal is a massive win for the Yankees.
Starting point is 00:28:02 In a year when they have about $35 million to spend, they inked one of the best players in baseball for 15 mil per and 20 mil for pitching. We'll break it down later. You know what's, I'm starting to think, the more and more I see this number, Liam Hendrix got $15 million a year. A guy that's going to pitch max, what? 50 times?
Starting point is 00:28:25 Yeah. We know baseball isn't in a great spot. Strange, man. Strange times. It's a great deal for the Yankees. And DJ gets a lot of money. If there's 20 mil left to spend, that's awesome. Anyway, fast forward.
Starting point is 00:28:38 We're through the Archie Bradley talk. We're moving on. I just have a, the Jose Martinez to the, the Jose Martinez to the Mets deal. I don't really truly have much on it. Cuts to all Mets fans saying we hate Mets. all the time. Because I don't know how he adds in.
Starting point is 00:28:55 The one thought I have, and Trev, you said this as well as, I think all these National League teams think there's going to be a DH next year. I mean, it's a one-year deal for Jose Martinez, right? And Schwerber got a one-year deal. I think they're acting as if there's going to be a DH year round in this next season. Rosenthal even, he guessed, he said, like, it's my hunch. What was the phrasing Rosenthal used that?
Starting point is 00:29:21 there's going to be a DH in the NL as well. I think he said my belief or something like that, which Ken Rosenthal doesn't just casually throw. But like, I mean, it seems like they're acting as if because like Jose Martinez, Schwerber can play defense. The Mets have a lot of guys moving around already. The Nets traded for Bell and got Schwerber, which is like two real bad defensive players.
Starting point is 00:29:43 Yeah. Two guys you want to mix in at D.H. Pretty often. Ideally. Yeah. Jose Martinez Career 915 OPS versus lefties Treff
Starting point is 00:29:55 Both sides want it Both sides want the DH now You know we have to remember These are two sides that don't see eye to eye a lot So there is going to be a little Slight of hand bargaining chips held here and there But ultimately I think it is better For both sides to have the universal DH
Starting point is 00:30:14 So I think I think we're probably looking like a 75% chance that it happens this year and like a 100% chance it happens to follow the year. I would agree with 100%. If we have a season. We're having a season. I also think that because Manfred came out and said like we're playing 162, that was public.
Starting point is 00:30:33 And I think privately it was like, yo, guys, start like making moves and stuff. We're playing. Don't even worry about it. With that announcement, like we're going to start the season on time. We think there was a little, oh, what's it the hidden ink when you write something? I think there was some invisible ink. at the bottom that you put a little lemon juice on it. All the GMs got it and they,
Starting point is 00:30:53 little lemon juice at the bottom. Start making moves and there will be a DH this year. Jose Martinez's dad played baseball. How about that? That's how it works. Carlos Martinez, six five corner infielder for Cleveland. Big boys.
Starting point is 00:31:12 Pick poised the Martinez. I'm just tripping out now that Liam Hendricks got 15 million and so did DJ the Mayhew. that's Yankees fans you should be really happy about this deal we were a couple more years couple two three more years but and also Mets lineups good man here we go Nimmo Missed let me just say this about your close
Starting point is 00:31:34 jaddy Davis mccan and Jose Martinez bouncing around whatever he does hour in the rotation it's a good lineup what's that trev your team has money to spend it's just they don't want to spend it they can spend I mean this is the DJ contract is a a perfect showcase for that.
Starting point is 00:31:53 They had the 90 million to spend, but they were like, okay, well, we just don't want to give it to you over this short amount of time because it gets us closer to our soft cap.
Starting point is 00:32:03 These teams have money to spend. Don't let them tell you any different, okay? Deal. Liam Hendr just got like the most of relievers gone in a long time. So, yes,
Starting point is 00:32:12 I agree with you. There's still only one good team in the ale. The White Sox? Yeah, that's it. Yeah, But now at least we have the inkling that the Yankees can go fix their pitching. Let's see what moves they make.
Starting point is 00:32:25 The rays are still good. Who's number two? Seriously. Seriously. Who's number two in the A.L. right now? The white socks. And number one, don't say the Yankees.
Starting point is 00:32:36 For me, it's the Yankees. Well, I think if you look at a lot of like lists too, Treb, obviously I'm down on the rotation, but the lineup still bangs. And regular season, I mean, they got through, what is it, 2019? They won 103 games with no pitch. like zero starters. Playoff-wise, it's a much different animal. You can get through the regular season with just a bat.
Starting point is 00:32:59 You go to the playoffs, and that's what the Yankees' trouble has been forever. So if you're counting like regular season best team, they might still be up there. Rays are obviously there. White Sox, twins are obviously there. A's don't get talked about enough and the Astros are probably. It's the same teams. It's the same teams. The White Sox have just jumped up.
Starting point is 00:33:15 There's a little more offseason to happen, but, you know, yes, I am a Yankee fan. Put Bauer on the Angels and maybe they start creaking up. I could get interested in that. Let me see the White Sox. The last full season, the White Sox played, they were 72 and 89. Like they've added a lot of guys and their young guys have gotten better. Let me see it over 162. The talent is there.
Starting point is 00:33:37 And let me see how the rest of the offseason shakes out. But there's good teams. I mean, I agree with you on that. I just, I don't think the A.L is very strong right now. I mean, if you look at the teams, if you're going to name the best teams in a league, you're going to start with probably three or four National League teams before you get to any AL team. I think it's still... Which is shocking.
Starting point is 00:33:55 I think it's still Dodgers and everyone else. I agree. Who's the next free agent to sign, Triv? Now that DJ kind of put something out there. I don't know. It seems to me like Nelson Cruz is going to sign with the twins at any second. Like, that's what I think. But again, they probably don't have to rush it.
Starting point is 00:34:15 I know they're doing all the arbitration stuff today. It kind of seems like team, this is... like a high school dance where a lot of these teams have been on the wall, one foot up on the wall, the other foot down, and then they hear the DJ say, this is the last song of the night.
Starting point is 00:34:31 And they're going to be Russian. They'll get a dance. I miss that feeling, man. And don't ever forget, guys, if you're at a dance and they start playing the song last dance, it's not a slow song. Last dance, man. And then you got to know how to really dance.
Starting point is 00:34:49 I made that mistake when I was like over under two and a half how many times did Jake come in his pants at a middle school dance? Hello. Oh snap. No one has a single guess. He's grinding away on the dance floor? Zero. There was a kid in our high school that his nickname was the sheriff because he did that. Quickest shot in town. Yeah. I was going to say over just so you know. Close in a pool once. I don't know. I could see Springer's got to happen at some point. Who the hell are the Blue Jays going to sign?
Starting point is 00:35:32 The Blue Jays want to give someone money so bad. Oda Rizzi? Paxton. Odo, your guy, Trev? I better have the scoop. I've been telling them. I've been telling them. Love Trevi on the beat.
Starting point is 00:35:46 Archer? Treve, when are you going to get your sources? Come on. Where's Archer going? Where's Odo going? They haven't, I mean, look. been talking to these guys and it's been slow. You know?
Starting point is 00:35:59 There's only four or five teams spending money. True. All right. Well, hopefully we get more to come. This was a very impromptu episode. Obviously, we did get some stuff to talk about. Hopefully we get another one tomorrow or Sunday or whatever. If we don't, we'll be back on Tuesday.
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Starting point is 00:36:55 And have a fantastic weekend, everyone. Enjoy it. Goodbye. It's up to me to play the outro music, which I have not done. So I will continue to talk. And here we go. Thanks, guys. Deep dive on Alex Wood Monday.
Starting point is 00:37:12 Heavy. Jake sucks.

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