Talkin' Baseball (MLB Podcast) - 270 | Joc to Chicago, Didi Back to Philly, & Pedroia Retires
Episode Date: February 2, 2021Jomboy, Jake, & Plouffe break down the biggest news in baseball! The Arenado trade became official (5:30), the Phillies brought back shortstop Didi Gregorius (7:00), Eddie Rosario signed with Clevelan...d and Joc Pederson signed with the Cubs (16:00), the Angels traded for Alex Cobb (33:30), Jordan Yamamoto was traded to the Mets (39:00), Sean Doolittle went to the Reds (43:45), Mickey Callaway is an awful person (48:30), and Dustin Pedroia & Daniel Murphy retired from baseball (55:00). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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Hello and welcome to talking baseball.
A lot of players have signed a lot of places.
D.D. Jock, Eddie Rosario, and more.
Let's talk about it.
Hello and welcome to talking baseball.
My name is Jimmy.
Sitting next to me is Jake in California.
We have Trevor Plouffe and behind the dish producer, Big Baby, David.
It's Tuesday, but it feels like a Saturday for me because we're still amidst the snowstorm.
Just makes me feel like it's a weekend.
So weekend vibes for me, not for Trev, because he's in sunny California.
Jake, how are you feeling?
I'm good.
I mean, Tuesday, worst day of the week.
Well-known fact.
I'm doing all right, though.
A legit snowstorm in the Northeast.
It was a real one.
It was coming down in droves, as the kids don't say.
But doing well, man.
The older people say that.
The last, you know, our Nolan-Arenado reaction episode,
one of our, I think our biggest episode of Talking Baseball ever.
So thanks to the fans, thanks to baseball when it's hot in the street in a good way.
And thanks for you guys.
So appreciate everyone.
And yeah, there's a ton of baseball movement in a classic baseball way.
It's starting to get overshadowed by CBA and Mickey Calloway being the worst.
But a lot of good baseball to discuss.
And I'm excited to do that with not only you, my friend James, going back to early high school, big baby David, my friend from recent years.
But also Trevor Plouffe.
Wow.
Okay.
Good to be with you guys.
Not a handle out.
Very positive today.
You guys know that.
I'm striving for positivity.
My day got started off.
What do you call it?
On the wrong foot?
Wrong side of the bed.
Wrong side of the bed.
No, the bed was not the problem.
Okay.
On the wrong foot.
I don't know what you say.
What do the old people say?
You guys know that.
The snow's coming down and drivet.
droves.
Drove.
Okay.
Yeah.
But for me, also, Jim, every day is the same.
Ever since COVID happened in late February, early March, every day has been the exact same.
Not true.
You're doing boot camp for adults now or whatever, Daddy Fit Club?
Ooh, I did it this morning.
I feel good.
You were a gopher hunter.
And now you're a raccoon hunter.
Did you get this raccoon?
He hasn't visited it again.
I'm not going to kill this raccoon, guys.
I want everyone to know that.
not going to kill this raccoon. I'll do whatever I can to humanely get it from ruining my
my sod. I had a raccoon in New Jersey when I lived in the beach and our garbage cans were like
right like to the left of the sitting on the couch. There's a window to my left and then the deck
there and then right off the deck was the garbage cans and it's a summer beach house.
I never lived. The house had never been lived in in the winter and I heard this giant thud and I looked
left and it was just a big fat raccoon going through my garbage.
I hate critters and rodents of all kinds.
I got rid of it.
I went and bought new garbage cans that have lids that I bungee jumped shut.
So no one, so that raccoon couldn't get in and then he never came back.
My trash.
I saw that.
You sent us a picture of those awesome.
That was a great little contraption you guys came up with because there was like a window
that you guys would put the trash out of, right?
You didn't have to go outside.
Oh, yeah.
That's also, that's awesome invention.
to open the window, pull the bungee cord up,
drop the trash in from the second four.
It's great.
I feel bad for this guy because all he's doing is looking for late night snacks.
I mean, if someone was trying to kill me when I was going to look for late night snacks,
I wouldn't be happy.
Well, I just hope Teddy doesn't sleepwalk at night because then he might find him.
I slept walk at night when I was Teddy's age.
Imagine a raccoon kidnapped me and become a raccoon kid.
All right.
All right.
There was a lot of news.
We checked the thing and the headlines are like,
the Mickey Callaway stuff and the CBA stuff, and that's all really a downer.
And we're going to talk about Mickey a little bit at the end of the show.
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Before we get into the new signs that we haven't talked about yet,
we wanted to do a little house cleaning here.
The Aronado trade became official.
And they changed all the prospects.
So the actual prospects besides Austin,
how do you say his last name?
Because everyone said we said it wrong last episode.
I think it's Gomer.
Gomer?
I mean, a double check, but
Someone said that
Were we saying gomber?
No idea.
I don't think it's gomber.
I don't know how to pronounce it.
It's gomber.
And we should like start putting these warnings in our episodes again.
And it's not really a warning.
It's kind of like pointing the finger at the audience.
You don't know how to pronounce every major league baseball player's name.
So why don't you shut your butts about it.
Neither do we.
Yeah, I'm seeing gomer.
It's like a thousand, fifteen hundred of them, whatever.
So Gomer.
goes and then all the other minor leaguers got like switched out now it's tony
loci and laura elear high what the fuck is that heller high water ele horace ele horace
ele horace montero jake somers uh doesn't change anything that we said from our reaction
so if you want to go listen to our reaction to that that episode is up we did touch on in
that episode that yadi and waynwright are going back to st louis as well which made us like
St. Louis, that's official as well.
Wayno gets a one-year, $8 million deal.
And Yadi, they're like, yeah, he's coming back, but we don't know the scope of it yet.
So that'll happen.
So all of that was discussed last episode, but just a little house cleaning before we move forward.
I want to start with Didi.
Because we kind of ended the Aeronado trade saying, well, if Trevor's story is going to get moved,
maybe Didi's agent needs to move quick before teams start switching out and getting story for 18 mil.
So to Didi.
So Didi get locked up.
Goes returns to the Phillies.
Two years, $28 million.
He was supposedly looking for $30 million, $15 a year.
He gets 14 a year.
Pretty good deal for D.D.
The Phillies are getting the band back together.
They got Rural Mudo.
They get Didi.
I kind of like what they're doing.
I like Didi.
We kind of said it just makes sense.
Like, just go get Didi.
They also signed Matt Moore.
That's the name I haven't heard in a long time.
and then once they have Didi to play shortstop now
and the Reds missed out on Didi
they were the other team that maybe was going to get him
the Phillies traded Kyle Holder
to the Reds
who's the shortstop they picked up as like a stopgap
rule 5 player
which I find interesting because now the Reds
just traded for a guy that they may have to return
to the Yankees in three weeks
Jake that's everything in the scope of the Phillies world
what's your thoughts
Phillies getting after it
along with that Aeronado Trev's Dick Monfort putting on a hell of a press conference right now as we record.
Holy smokes.
Yeah.
So for the Phillies, Jim, you know I'm tough on my guy, Dombrovsky.
I always compare what Dumbrowski does to playing a video game.
You know, they just sign the biggest free agents.
He trades away his prospects and he gets three years to go at it.
And then he gets to turn off the Xbox and go away.
I've decided this is going to be my final dance with Dumbrowski.
If he can do it with these Phillies, I'll give him all the credit in the world.
We've got the Mets throwing money at people and going for it.
The Braves got this team built up.
The Nationals snagged the World Series, and they've still, they got dogs on that team.
Phillies, they bring back Real Mudo.
They bring back Didi.
That lineup is a problem.
Every day that lineup is going to battle,
especially if Alec Bohm can take it to the next level.
which kind of did last year.
Excited for Philly fans.
Matt Moore, you're right.
That was the name for all you prospect huggers out there.
Guy was a big-time prospect.
At one time, he was the number one prospect in baseball rated by MLB.
He came up with the raise and was good,
and then a litany of injuries and just losing it.
Led to a really weird career.
He went overseas.
He was healthy and kind of lights out.
So it was like, all right, let's see it.
So Philly's take a chance on the guy.
If he can give them, you know, 10 plus good starts this year,
I think that's 10 plus starts.
I don't even care on the result.
That's kind of a win for them.
So excited for Philly.
Nola Wheeler, Eflin, Velasquez, Moore, is Moore?
He in that division?
Moore is there five right now?
They've got them listed as the five right now.
I mean, they've got Spencer Howard, their top prospect, too,
who should find his way into the rotation.
but they've got a lineup.
How can they pitch?
How can they get around those Wheeler, Nola days?
But, I mean, you should be excited as a Philly fan.
You rework the bullpen.
You know, you want to compare your team to last year.
And I think they've gotten better, right?
Yeah, they also have Nova non-raster.
Like, he could win that fifth spot.
Yeah, I think they're, I mean, their offense was,
I think they scored the fifth most runs in baseball last year.
So it wasn't an offensive problem.
last year and all the guys, you're right, they're back with that lineup. I like the lineup.
They had to figure something out with the bullpen because I think the bullpen was
historically bad, like really, really, really bad. So they went out what? They got Archie Bradley,
Jose Alvarado. Who else did they bring over in the bullpen?
They got Bradley, they got Alvarado, and then Brogden supposedly is up and coming with Neri.
They got a few guys that need to make the jump. Yeah, they got a few guys that need to help them out
there. But, you know, yeah.
you know, if we, if this team was in the NL Central,
we'd be like, hey, these guys are one of the favorites to win the NL Central.
But they're in the East.
In the East is crazy competitive this year, at least on paper it is.
We'll see how it turns out.
But this team does.
I mean, they check a lot of boxes for me.
I tweeted that out that I think they could be World Series contenders.
They're a move or two away from that.
But they're positioned to go do it.
There's still very good free agents out there.
There's still trades to be had that it seems like, you know,
like you're talking about Dave.
Dave, they don't mess around.
He goes and gets what he wants.
So he knows they're not there yet.
And I expect them to still continue to be active.
I'm a Dombrough fan.
I mean, I think I did a whole rant on here about how all these teams preaching sustained success over a World Series win is like, well, let's not value sustained playoff making over winning the World Series.
Dombrose is kind of the odd to get ball out.
everyone else is trying the raise method of like, well, we'll just make it to the playoffs,
and then we'll see what happens because it's crapshoot.
Where Dombrose is like, no, I'll win it, but it'll be at a big cost.
I'd rather that.
You want to win the World Series.
I'm a Dombrough fan in a way.
I get it's destructive afterwards, but as long as you win, you know,
Tigers didn't win, so it sucked over there.
Yeah, and that's the, that's, you know, the example you'd point to.
It can also not work, and then that left the Tigers as, you know, a decade worth of,
kind of mad baseball depending when these tigers turn it around.
Be a good GM.
Hell of a team he put together, though.
Sure.
It's a great point because the tigers are, I mean, they're not,
the Phillies are not the Tigers of 2014-15.
They're not that good.
But they're constructed the same way where the Tigers,
Achilles heel, like that was the best team in baseball.
The Achilles heel was their bullpen.
And for some reason, they just couldn't figure out how to address that.
And there's no doubt my.
mind that Dombrowski still thinks about that all the time. He put together a legit all-time
great lineup and starting staff, but couldn't win because he's another bullpen. There's no way
that he goes into Philly and makes the same mistake. So I really wanted them to get Hendrix. Maybe
that was too much of a price tag for them, but I just don't think he's done yet. I want to see
them get another starting pitcher. I mean, there's still guys out there, whether it's James Paxson,
Taiwan Walker
You know
Mike Leak who took last year off
But if you look before that
The guy was an innings eater
Our guy Oda Rizzy's still out there
Who can still be a somewhat impa
Like if Jake Oter Rizzy comes on this team
He's there instant three
And you know you can believe in him
In a game three of a playoff game
Right now they don't have that
So yeah
You know you could yell about a lot of teams needing pitching
I think if if the Phillies added a
a third starter or another impact piece in the bullpen,
a real piece, a Rosenthal, whoever it might be.
Then I can start talking myself into the Phillies a little more.
But yeah, it just, it seems like they're kind of running back last year,
and that was kind of, eh.
The help in the bullpen helps.
But yeah, one more bullpen, one more starter would be good.
Their starting pitching was pretty good last year,
if I remember correctly.
It was the bullpen just blew it for them.
Like the top three were really good.
What's their payroll?
They're at 152.
So, I mean, if they want to spend, they can spend.
They've got, if they give Dombrough keys to go spend, they can go pick.
Odo would look good in that Philly's uniform too, Trev.
And there's a Sam Fold Odo connection.
Yes, forget Sam Folds, you know, maybe he's not pulling the strings, but he's directing a little bit over there.
So I'm excited to watch them again this year.
It's just a tough, a tough division, man.
Phillies fans got to be excited
because there was a point where they were like
is Real Moodo not going to come back
and not only is Real Mooda come back
but Dedi comes back as well
and then they did get Archie Bradley
and they're piecing some stuff together.
Matt Moore, huge.
Sure.
The football player, not the baseball player.
That's who they picked up.
All throwers.
Professional throwers?
You think they've ever talked?
Have the Matt Moore's talked?
Yes.
Like an Instagram?
DM? Just like, stop.
A concert.
It'd be cool if their Instagram DMs were just like, nice throw the other day.
And then the other guy was like,
Nice arm.
Like three weeks later, you're like.
Well, you've got a lefty and a righty.
I think it's probably like we should combine L.O.L.
Yeah.
Arm swap.
I think that's, yeah, I think you're, you just nailed it.
No need to even dive deeper.
No.
You don't want to overthink something like that.
That's when you get into trouble.
A bunch of outfielders sign, Trev.
Your dude, Eddie Rosario, goes.
to the Indians.
Jack Peterson goes to the Cubs.
Two teams that are like being weird.
Let's trade you Darvish and get rid of Schwarber, but bring in Jock.
Let's trade Clevenger and Lindor and Carrasco, but bring in Rosario.
Two teams that are banking on expanded playoffs.
and saying let's just be good enough that we're in a pennant race.
And then if we win in the playoffs, that'd be great.
But we just want to be in the hunt for a pennant race.
That seems like what it is.
But Jake and I were talking pre-show, Trev.
Eddie Rosario joins the Indians.
They're unfortunately for the Indians front office, they're going to be good again.
I don't know how good, but they still got arms.
and when you go down the lineup, they got bats.
The top half of the lineup is still good for the Indians.
What do you got on Rosario?
He's your dude from Minnesota.
Any thoughts?
I love him.
I've spoke about him before on the program.
He's just a solid baseball player.
I don't know how else to describe him.
I mean, he gives, there are times where he's going to look like,
Eddie, what are you doing at the plate?
Because he swings at a lot of pitches out of the zone.
And I think people tend to remember those at bat.
But if you go back to the last full season,
the guy put up 30 in a hunch,
that the guy's a stick.
And he throws people out,
like his defensive metrics get brought down a little bit
on the range is there.
But he, you know,
is one of the top outfield assists guys every single year.
He can play a decent enough outfield that it's not going to hurt you.
And he just hits.
I was going to ask you about the defense because it's kind of been a funny comparison with these three guys.
Schwabor, Jock, and Eddie Rosario, good bats, all the defensive metrics kind of poo on all of them.
Shwerber the worst.
But I was going to ask you, because I don't really know.
I don't watch day and day out Rosario.
Doesn't Schwerber have a good arm too?
Is it like this?
But he's not as...
I really don't know, because some Cubs fans will say Schwerber's not as bad as his metric say.
Eddie Rosario, the metrics say he's pretty not great out there.
You're saying you're just bragging him.
about his arm, so I'm going to guess he is. He's not. Yeah, I don't really, I mean, look,
we can talk about defensive metrics all day and how, what do they mean, you know, are they accurate?
When I watch Eddie Rosario play, I don't think bad outfield. He's going to have some hiccup and bad
plays, just like he does at the plate, like he's going to look bad sometimes. And that's what
people remember. But the guy can go get it. He's not like, you know, he's not like a heavyset guy,
like Schwerber, like he can still run a little bit. He throws people out. Sometimes he plays himself,
into that throw range and maybe that's where he gets beat.
He lets guys take extra bases because he's trying to throw him out.
Maybe that's something he could work on to get those metrics better.
But like I have,
I would have no problems sticking Eddie Rosario out there and relying on him,
you know,
to play 162 out there.
Yeah.
He's the ball player.
It's this weird, again, defensive metrics and, you know,
they're getting better every day.
They're still not fully there yet.
And I know some people will argue they are.
And I'll tell you, well,
just wait three years because they won't be, wait one year and they won't be.
You know, it's different feelings.
I mean, Schwerber came up as a catcher, so he ended up in the outfield,
and I think he can make the play, but he's not making plays.
I think Eddie Rosaro, you know, he's played a lot of innings in the outfield at this point.
You know, fly ball gets hit to him.
You're not nervous.
I'll actually, I'm normally pretty tough on Billy Ripkin.
We almost kind of need to go back in our defensive thinking because he was talking about the shortstop position,
which me and Jim talk a lot with Glaber Torres
and if he can stick there with our talking Yank stuff.
And he said the best way to define a shortstop
is when a two hopper,
when a two hopper is hit in the seventh inning to them,
you start clapping or do you get nervous?
And right now in Yankeesland.
Hey, that was our metric as well.
Do you hold your breath on a seventh, eighth inning,
ninth inning hit to the guy?
Glaver Torres last year we held our breath like crazy.
Yeah.
DD, we never did.
That's kind of...
So I think Schwabers got a little bit of the hold of breath still.
Cubs fans, let me know just because he hasn't had as much run out there with
Peterson and Rosario.
You know, they've played a lot of innings in the outfield.
They make your plays.
I don't think they grade out pretty poorly.
And I think if you have a special right fielder, you see the difference on a day-and-day-out basis.
I don't know the best way to fully measure that.
And I don't think a lot of MLB teams do at this point.
With Rosario, your guy, Trev, I said this when he hit free agency,
and I was mad about it.
That dude has been in the heart of the twins lineup,
a twins lineup that has done big things over the past few years.
He's a guy you don't want to see at the plate.
And yes, some of the stats aren't there.
You know, he's not an on-base guy.
Eddie wants to swing.
And, you know, some of the stats don't fully put up what Eddie Rosario does in a lineup.
I think the top of that Cleveland lineup right now is really solid with Eddie in there.
I think he knows all the pitchers in that division.
I think he might remind Minnesota what he's done for them for a long time.
And, yeah, the Indians are in this weird stage of, you know, they've got a lot of ton of young pitching.
I wish they would go out and get another bat.
Like, the Cleveland Indians could still do that, and they would be a nice little ball club.
But you're right, and it starts tying into expanded playoffs and what we're trying to get away from.
And I retweeted it the other day, Dan Zimborski, one of the original fan graphs and Zips guys,
an OG baseball nerd, I say that in the most endearing way possible, because I'm a fan of his,
but he had a beautiful thread that players are paid largely based on whether or not they move the needle.
And you need more moving the needle to have less randomness.
And that's teams going out and getting players.
So if we start letting 14 teams into the playoffs, all these teams view the playoffs as a crapshoot.
So instead of paying the difference between a Mike Trout and another center fielder,
you say, oh, the other center fielder's fine.
We're going to win our 85 games, get in the playoffs,
and we'll try our hardest and do our best from there.
But it's kind of the problem with baseball right now.
You should want to have the players that differentiate,
and to get them, you have to pay those guys.
Easy.
Pay it money.
Rosario will take over for Lendor in the lineup.
They'll probably slide in after J-RAM in the three-hole.
Just offensively, in the last two seasons,
who had a higher OPS plus.
Eddie Rosario or Francisco Lindor, Trev, do you have a guess?
I mean, it sounds like you're trying to trick me there.
I have Eddie's stats up here, so 107, 115 or the last two years.
I have no tricks, Trev.
Just a straight-up question.
I'd imagine-I'd imagine Lendor.
I'm thinking of like some Indians fans like,
well, if Lendor was only here for one more year,
we can just replace his bat for 7 mil,
and the defense, you know,
and they're like talking themselves into like,
the lineup's going to have the same production.
So I went to look.
Lindor, but.
Lindor, but it's pretty close.
It's 114 OPS plus to 109 OPS Plus.
Last two seasons.
So if you're an Indians fan,
you can talk yourself into that.
Like offensively,
we have somewhat of the same,
same guy hitting in three hole now on a one-year deal.
the Indians are still going to be pesky.
It's just really frustrating, man, because, you know,
Caesar Hernandez, we've talked about him, you know, solid defense.
He's going to get on base.
Jose Ramirez can put up an MVP-type season.
Rosario, he's been a lock in the AL Central to get you 25 homers and 90 RBIs for the past five years.
Fran Milraez is my guy.
I think he's a monster.
I'm still waiting for him to fully break out.
The second half of that lineup, man, Josh Naylor, he gives, you know, he had two,
really nice games against the Yankees, but his career major, he has a zero war, lifetime.
Robert Roberto Perez doesn't do anything with the stick. He frames the ball really well. Awesome.
Andres Jimenez, that's who they got back in the trade. Let's see it, kid. You played some nice
innings for the Mets. Mercado, our guy, had a really weird year last year, so if he could bounce back,
that would be big for them. And right now they have Daniel Johnson in right field, who I don't have
the fully scouting report on. So, you know, best of luck to you, Dan. But there's,
with how many free agents are still out there.
Like Cleveland could do something,
and it's just got to be frustrating because they ain't.
Prove me wrong.
They're spending 40 mil now this year.
Prove me wrong, Cleveland.
Is that what their payroll is?
I think they're at like 35,
and this bumps them up to around 40.
You like that?
Jack Peterson to the Cubs.
Kind of a similar deal.
Like, Cubs lineup can be really good.
They're pitching stinks now.
They got rid of short.
Swarber and they bring in Jock.
Kind of similar guys.
I think you can debate either way.
Right now, everyone's obsessed with Jock so much on the Twitter sphere and like the
public that I feel like he's getting overhyped, but I also like Jock so I don't want
to come off critical of him.
But you were saying like he's 10 times.
I don't know.
I had to like go look like why why is everyone so aggressively saying this?
But it's kind of debatable either way.
I don't know.
Jake you anything on this? It's the splits, man. I mean, I've said it on here before.
Jack Peterson, career versus right-handed pitching.
You know, he's got a 849 OPS in recent years. It's been even higher than that,
which, you know, you're going to see a right-handed starting pitcher
125 games a year that essentially you get a borderline all-star player
for those 120 games. So that's why teams get excited about Jack Peterson.
And we saw it in Yankee land. You see any lefty with the short porch.
all Yankee fans get all sorts of horned up.
I think the other secret with Jock is like,
his defense ain't good.
You know, it grades out in the same world as Schwabber.
So, you know, it's what are you doing with them?
Are you putting them in the right position to succeed?
And, you know, the Dodgers were so talented at a certain point
they never had to give him at bat's first left-handed pitching.
So, you know, I wonder if the Cubs give him that opportunity,
if he could figure it out and become an everyday, everyday guy.
I don't know because the numbers have been pretty bad up into this point.
Jock's got the potential to put up a monster season,
and I guess that's maybe where people get lost in the how good is your good.
Jack Peterson in 2019 hit 36 home runs, you know, an 876 OPS.
He was at the top of that Dodgers lineup against Ritey's,
and he was a monster.
So that's where people get a little more excited about Jack Peterson.
I like Jock. I think he's very comparable to Rosario. Rosario splits aren't as drastic,
but I think they're very comparable players. And, you know, I don't know what the Cubs are doing,
dude. Same thing with the Indians. These are two teams that we just can't really decide
where their road is leading. You mean, you just trade away, you know, some of your best players
and you're, I mean, at least for the Cubs, they're in a weak division. I guess you might be able
to say that about the A.L. Central. It's definitely not as weak as the N.O. Central.
but there's still some room, I guess, to sneak in.
I don't know, man.
I'm a jock fan.
I think he really relished his time in L.A.
and kind of was like love that big, you know, bright lights of L.A. type of thing.
And Chicago doesn't offer it as much, but I think it's big enough.
Or he kind of like, like I said, he likes to perform in big situations.
I just don't know if they're going to have a ton of them there for him.
But you can use him.
I don't know.
I know L.A. tried to make him an everyday player,
but you've really got to pick and choose where you put him.
And if you do that, like you were saying, Jake,
you can get an all-star caliber player with him
without exposing him to that big, left-handed,
570 OPS split that he has.
L.A. might have Chicago doesn't have the L.A. Hollywood vibe,
but, I mean, it's not, it can become a star.
in Chicago.
Absolutely.
Very big baseball fan, baseball city.
Like, he can walk around and feel the love and be cold.
He started, for anyone that doesn't know the splits, like Jake said,
like he crushes righties, he doesn't hit against lefties.
He doesn't even get a chance to hit against lefties.
In the last three seasons, he started 235 games.
How many of those do you think came against the left-handed starting pitcher?
235 games, last three seasons.
You have an abbreviated season there.
How many do you think?
think he started against a lefty starting pitcher.
And it's with the Dodgers.
I mean, I'd say, like, 220?
Against the lefty.
So the other way.
Oh, then what did I do?
20.
20.
Travis, do you have a guess?
No, you're wrong.
Got excited.
I don't have a guess.
9.
9.
That's the thing.
I mean, and I saw MLB Network,
they did a whole thing about how lefties get better
versus lefties later in the career because you see it more.
and it's like he hasn't had a career first lefties.
He's damn even giving the chance to like.
And that's where on the opposite.
They did it with Bellinger and then he complained and said,
I need to be playing every day.
And then they put him every day and he won the MVP.
So maybe the Cubs are like, hey, fuck it.
Let's play him every day.
I don't know what they're playing is with him.
He's got in 18, he had two starts against a leftie,
86 against the righty.
It's kind of wild.
In 19, he had 109 starts, only five.
against the lefty.
I wonder who the lefties were.
I wonder the situation that called for that.
Just the same lefty every time.
Yeah.
Same guy.
Injuries.
Yeah.
It's interesting because early on in his career,
they let him face lefties.
Like when he won,
he was an all-star and had rookie of the year votes,
he played 75 games against left-handed pitcher.
So.
Probably just had some on the bench that liked better.
Whatever.
So the Cubs are doing that.
Their lineup can be pretty good, man.
I mean, they get the best out of their lineup.
Ian Hap, Rizzo, Bryant, Contreras, Baez, Jock.
Pretty damn good.
Hayward and the nine hole.
I guess pretty good.
They're pitching is a little.
They're pitching. We did this the other episode.
They're pitching.
It's Hendricks.
I mean, we like Zach Davies, but
Alec Mills is my guy.
We were just concerned about the Phillies pitching,
and I think Oda Rizzi would be the two on this team.
Yeah.
I think you could put an argument for Zach Davies.
He was nice.
He was really nice last year.
but I'd rather have Odo in a big game.
Sorry, Zach.
The Cubs also signed Trevor Williams.
Fun fact, can I throw one out there?
Yeah.
High school football teammates with Devonta Adams.
Yeah.
And he was the guy.
He was the receiver.
Turns out Devont Adams,
one of the best receivers in all, football now.
But they have a cool little connection there.
I think that's a nice little tidbit.
Is Jack short for something?
Jocelyn.
Jocinda.
Like Joxon Pollock.
The Jocxon Pollock.
It's a great question, Jim.
Trevor Williams' friends of the pot.
What?
What did you stumble into?
So it says it's Jock Russell Peterson.
Okay.
Jock Russell?
Jock Russell.
That's funny.
That's funny.
That's closer to a dog's name than your name.
What I got nervous about was his dad who played like one game of pro ball?
Eight games of pro baseball.
Hell yeah.
Is Stu Peterson.
STU, so I thought we might just be a three-letter family.
His full name is Stuart, but he went by Stu Russell Peterson.
Families.
Stor Russell.
Stor Russell.
Jack Russell.
Look at Jack Russell go.
I mean, there's a Dodgers friend that has a dog named Jack Russell, right?
Jack Russell Terrier.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I like that.
Trevor Williams goes to the Cubs as well.
Friend.
Friend.
Friend.
Me, I'm a Trevor.
All right.
Weird guy.
In a good way.
Where did we just have to?
We just talked to Tyone.
Tyone on talking Yanks told us that Trevor Williams would listen to like death metal on his day to pitch.
Like real heavy in his headphones, but so loud that everyone else could hear it.
And he'd just be sitting there calmly with his leg over his knee doing a crossword with like death metal just blaring.
It's a pitcher.
Yeah.
You know, us three hitters.
We hate pitchers, you know.
Let's get Jake excited.
The angel signed a pitcher.
The angel signed a pitcher.
His name is Alex Cop.
Friend of Prog.
Oh, they traded for him.
Trated for him.
My bad.
You were getting excited for him to sing the song.
Yeah, it had the lyrics written out and everything.
They traded for Alex Cobb.
We thought Cobb might get moved at the deadline last year.
One year deal.
I mean, so this is where, like, it's tricky territory.
Because the angels are getting all the ancillary pieces.
Or whatever.
Like, they still need to get a big name or an anchor.
It's happening.
Cobb and Bundy get back together.
Friends.
Ooh.
Oriel staff.
You guys know what's happening.
It's happening.
Bower to the Angels.
It just, it makes the most sense, man.
Like, they have to do something.
But that's, the angels have a history of not.
doing what makes the most sense.
This plays into my theory of like when they got Kintana,
Bauer was like, I need you to be serious and like get another like a supporting cast here.
So they got Kintana and Bauer was like, no.
I mean, more than that, so now they get Cobb and then now Bauer's like, all right, cool.
I get it now.
Hey, the Angels at least look like they have a game plan.
Their staff right now does look a lot different.
A lot of major league names.
I'm going to give them some credit.
I mean, Bundy, Kentana, Cobb, and then you've got Otani.
We'll see what happens there.
Griff Canning and Haney.
Like, you know, those are six guys who can throw MLB innings and give you a start and you don't feel bad about it.
So it's a step in the right direction.
You're right, Trev.
I mean, the wipeout guy at the top of the rotation would make you feel better about Kintana and how healthy he is.
It would make you feel better about Bundy and if last year was a fluke just because he wanted to shit down my throat.
He did too.
Alex Cobb has pitched a lot of good baseball in his career.
A lot of ALEs baseball.
We saw him at spring training, and he was nice to us,
so we will also always love him.
So, yeah, it's all right.
I think the Orioles are eaten part of the tab,
and they got an old angel second round pickback,
so it ties into all the money shuffling that's going in baseball now.
It's a move.
If you pair this move with Bauer, it's a chef's kiss.
If this is the final pitching move for the Angels, you're going to be nervous all year.
You know who hates Alex Cobb?
Corn.
Advanced metrics.
Sure.
He's one of the guy that has all, like, blue, low percentile.
And he's not a strikeout guy.
I know.
There's a time when Cobb was, like, scary with the rays.
Our guy, Eno just put out something talking about in his last nine starts.
Like he kind of figured a split back out and was pretty nasty.
So I trust Eno.
And hopefully, you know, he finds that, man.
That's his pitch.
It's his pitch.
His last nine starts, he only made 10 starts last year.
So we just disregarding the first one.
I mean, I go find that, you know, tweet now, dang it.
Maybe it was the last 10 starts because that's all he did last year.
Dagummit.
Maybe it was 19, bro.
I don't know.
Could have been here.
Here I go.
Off.
off for the search.
Yeah, I mean, I like Cobb.
Who did they give up?
Was this, do we have any details on the trade?
The Orioles get anything?
Their second round pick, Cobb trade.
It's a second baseman.
Jemai Jones.
Jemai?
Jemai.
Sounds like an Australian person saying my name.
You guys ready for it?
Yes, I'm ready for the Eno.
Eno.
Sandwich King Eno says,
ever since he got his splitter back
so that there's no games.
No 9 or 19 or anything like that.
No, no amount.
Ever since he got his splitter back,
Alex Cobb has been sneaky good.
He was one of 70 starting pitchers with above average stuff,
and he listed some stat QOS plus and Command Plus last year.
Huge.
So there's your advanced metrics.
I don't know what either of those stands for.
I think Eno got a haircut, so.
No.
Yeah, I think so.
Like a big one?
You can love, you know.
Significant.
Oh, my God.
go check it out.
Alex Cobb's split finger in the year 2020
had a batting average against of 181,
a slugging of 287, and a Wobah of 234.
So yeah, the splitter was doing the damn thing.
He's in a book.
The sinker was he.
Whoa.
Not a big deal.
I took him up top.
I think I took a splitter up top.
Whatever.
Alex Cobb has been in my book for a while, yeah.
A.
Elise guy.
We can move on.
We can move on.
No.
We're not moving on. I've got to find Enosaris's haircut.
Yeah.
He did. He tweeted that out.
Is it his main profile pick?
Or is it more significant?
Go follow Enosaris on Twitter. He's a great follow.
If you like beer, sandwiches, and baseball, the best.
I DM Vodino this weekend a little bit. Whatever.
What's you say?
I kind of can't reveal it.
Wow.
Yeah.
Whoa.
After the MLB season, I can reveal it.
After the entire of the MLB season?
It's about Pine Tire?
No.
Okay.
Okay.
Exciting.
Another trade was made.
The Marlins traded Jake's guy.
Yeah.
Jordan Yamamoto.
One of the more fun names to say.
A lot of the Japanese names are super fun to say.
Is he Japanese?
I think he's an American ball player.
Hawaii.
Oh.
Interesting.
Yeah.
Yamamoto sounds like a Japanese last night.
Yeah.
Well, anyway, Jake loves Jordan Yamamoto.
And now he's in the Mets.
The Mets are just doing what the angels are doing,
but for their like four through seven pitchers,
just getting guys,
just building up the depth there,
which is smart because they have the top talent.
Send me up, call me down.
Trev, we're friends.
Confirm it, Trev.
Yeah, we're confirmed.
Okay.
Because, I mean, some people in the YouTube were like,
I think Trevor hates Jake.
and is like, yeah, they're kind of right.
But Trev, I don't hate you.
Yamamoto comes up, 2019, with the Florida fish, right?
And he comes out and he's gangbusters.
His first five starts, he comes out.
They're four in one, 29 innings pitched a 1-2-4 ERA.
Opponents are hit in 117.
And this is right when we started talking baseball.
And I was like, if this kid was doing this on the,
the Yankees or the Red Sox or the Mets or the Dodgers.
People would be screaming how this guy's the future, this guy's next.
Since then he's gotten beat up and hit up, hit around a little bit,
and I don't think the advanced metrics like him.
But I do think there is that perspective of like, whoa, if he,
if that guy came out and shoved his first five starts for the Yankees,
people would have lost their damn mind.
So that being said, the advanced metrics don't love them.
We'll see what happens.
The Mets get another call up called.
down guy.
And I don't know, he's still really young.
I mean, he's 24 years old.
So if thrown some MLB innings, figure it out, Yami.
You know how he was your guy after that start?
Well, Quang Young Kim is my guy.
It's your guy.
Because I think if he did what he did for the Cardinals last year in a non-shortened
season, for the Cardinals are big enough.
That way it should have been like, no, but he should have been talked about.
Dude had a sub two ERA.
Yeah.
He only started eight games, obviously, because it's a shortened season.
but came over. So that's my guy. You're Yamamoto. I'm Kim. Trev, you have to get a guy.
Well, was Jake going to ask me a question? Because you like,
I just kind of, I was looking at your face and I thought you're beautiful. And I thought it was also,
I'm kind of taking a dig at the New York market, which is something you like.
Okay. No, I love New York. New York loves me. We're all good. Don't put that on us right now.
Treb. Remember that. Do I have a guy that should turn it up that had it for a little bit, but lost it?
Let me think.
Dustin May.
I think he should be a Sall Young winner, man.
He should be in the Dodgers rotation winning the Stuyah.
I don't know.
He didn't like lose it per se, but he's got the stuff that should...
Your guys' two pitchers are a lot better than my pitcher.
Yeah, you chose too early.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's a tough break by you.
So just to clear the air again, Trev, you don't hate Jake?
I don't hate Jake at all.
I'm positive today.
You guys know that there's a lot of negative news.
out there. I'm trying to keep this show positive.
Don't slander my relationship with New York either.
We have a very good relationship.
New York and I have seen some things together.
I've walked their streets at 5 a.m.
eating beautiful slices of pie.
I thought you were going to say Brazilian women, yeah.
What?
Like a cannibal.
I just thought you were going to say that, but I didn't know.
I wasn't sure.
Trevor, a lot of people said that me and you were being mean to each other
a couple episodes.
Are we all cool?
And I was really taken back by the comments there.
I was like, what?
We had Trev and I went at each other.
I didn't commenters like just like violence.
What's that?
I see the comments too.
I don't know why we're allowed to disagree and talk back and forth.
That's the whole show.
Cracks me up.
This is where we need a spring training trip.
We'd all be hugging and hacky sacking and.
I always like, fuck, what did I say to Treve?
I was like asking Jake was, I mean to Trevor?
Well, unlike you guys, I've actually lost a friend from podcasting.
Wow.
Hey, I could have lost many.
Maybe I lost them on purpose.
Meanwhile, a friend of our Sean Doolittle signed with the Reds.
We don't know the money on this contract yet, but it seems like they're just going to try and trade him.
The Reds, what's that?
Sorry to all our Reds fans.
I think the Reds have a lot of guys they should be trading.
They're clearly not trying to win.
Trade Amir Garrett, trade Sean Doolittle halfway through the season.
Fuck, trade moose.
Trade everyone.
You guys suck.
I was rooting.
Wait, we were, I was rooting for the Reds.
I think if you go back last season, we're like, fuck yeah.
I love every move they're making.
And then they just blew it.
And then they played the most boring, excruciating 18 inning game I've ever seen where they just looked pathetic in the playoffs.
And now I'm still off them slightly.
And then they traded some people this year.
I was like, really?
you're backing out this quickly.
So, yeah, I'm still a little sour on the Reds.
I got got.
I got got.
Yeah, we wanted to be Reds fans.
And then they fucking spit in everyone's face.
They're just joking.
What a weird, like two years for them.
They really kind of went all in.
They went out and got Moose.
They went out and got Castellanos.
We were saying, man, you don't want to face this team in the playoffs.
That's what we kept saying.
You do not want to face this team in the playoffs.
They made the playoffs and then just it didn't happen.
No hitting.
They didn't hit it all last year.
And then they got rid of everybody.
Hey, I'm still a little sympathetic because they've really built everything up for last year
and they got the worst year ever.
But no, I mean, this team right now does nothing for me.
We like Doolittle.
You know, they got a couple guys in the bullpen who turned around.
But, yeah, I mean, Reds, you've got to show us at this point.
You've got to get five games above 500 this season and we'll start getting excited about Reds baseball.
We love Doolittle.
Love Doolittle.
Yeah.
I like Doolittle.
Yeah. I like Trevor, too.
Trevor, I've got a question.
Yeah, do one more fun question before we get into bad guy stuff.
Fun question before we get into bad guy stuff.
Sean Doolittle signs a one-year deal with the Cincinnati Rides.
Fact.
What's his, like, living situation?
Is he going to rent an apartment for, like, a year?
Do you rent an apartment for, do you try to find a six-month lease?
Like, what's the game plan?
Are some people hotel guys?
Like just like get a penthouse for?
No. Okay.
If you're up and down, you might have a hotel because you don't want to put, you know, get your stuff into somewhere.
But like for a guy like Sean, he just is looking for a short term lease, six months, seven months.
Most of the time they have realtors that, you know, understand the deal.
And they'll find people and find houses for you.
But yeah, he'll have a nice little place.
And have a good time there.
I don't know.
I found out that my neighbor rented out their second unit or in-law suite,
whatever you want to call it, to Mel Stadlmeyer while he was the Yankees pitching coach.
So there you go.
It's a strange thing.
You just find housing wherever you can find housing, man.
I lived out of Homewood Suites for three months.
We should ask him in a little bit.
That happens a lot, Jim.
AAA guys will get in the Homewood Suites.
because they only have to pay for the days they're there.
It was awesome, man.
I was in college at the time.
I was watching my parents moved middle of the year,
and my sister had to finish her senior year,
so I switched colleges and lived with her in a Homewood Suites,
so otherwise she would have to move for like half of back end of her senior year.
But it was beer and food for free every night,
Homewood Suites.
And then this one dude was there for like a business trip,
and we would play pickleball together.
I was like 19, and he was.
19 and he was like 35.
Remember your pickleball.
I was like he was a sad guy.
Have you guys reconnected?
No, I got a little creeped out because I was like,
you shouldn't want to hang out with me, dude.
Like you're just trying to play some pickleball.
Then he was like buying me beers and stuff.
And then you guys would go to the courts after.
Ooh.
I lived in a homewood sweets,
my last professional baseball experience in Lehigh Valley.
I did.
Philly's AAA.
Lived in the Humwood Sweets.
Bronte by Homewood.
Do I have a roommate?
No, I didn't have a roommate.
My first day at the Homewood Suites was April Fool's Day.
And I was me and my sister, and I did this so she would have to finish whatever.
Obviously, I was being a nice guy.
I also had friends in town.
And it was April Fool's Day.
So I switched all of the furniture in her bedroom upside down, obviously.
And then I was out playing pickleball or something when she came home and she bawled her eyes out and flipped it all back over herself.
Obviously, I would have flipped it back over and cried and said,
Living with Jimmy is going to be a nightmare.
And then I was like Gritz is April fools
And I would have flipped it back over
But I ruined the whole thing
Pranks
Unbelievable
Tough times
Mickey Callaway is a bad guy
Mickey Callaway has five year history
Of being a predator
To multiple female reporters
Asking for their phone number
Or just straight up getting their phone number
From the Mets PR
And then texting them shirtless pictures of himself
And weird advances
And just like a pathetic
predator loser and this sucks.
There's like probably a hundred more of these guys out there in the baseball world.
Like let's not be naive about it.
Let's just get them all the fuck out.
Like weed them out.
And I was trying to think of something to say here because it sucks for all of the victims that they have to like do this.
And they were very anonymous in this one.
And then, you know, that's a lot of pressure.
Obviously in the Porter one, she didn't want to do it forever.
And she wanted to stay anonymous as well.
And I was like, hey, it'd be cool if the next.
guy because everyone says it's the worst kept secret in MLB.
Well, how many more worst kept secrets are they're floating around?
How about the next guy gets outed by like some male peers and like, hey, you know what?
I know that this guy has harassed these women so the victims don't have to go through it.
But then I was like, maybe they don't want that because if the victim is the one
I don't know, but this sucks.
It just sucks that I think this is going to keep happening.
But I also, let's just unhook the valve and get all these fucks out of here.
and if you're listening to this and you do this stuff, please just stop and don't.
Don't harass people.
It's like the simplest, simplest concept.
Don't annoy people.
Don't harass people.
Don't use, if you have any power over someone else, to do it.
You know?
He was doing this to reporters who worked his beat.
It's not like he went to like a restaurant and hit on a waitress and they went, it went well at first.
That would still be bad, but he's definitely used his.
power here to make them feel uncomfortable. Fuck Mickey Calloway.
Yeah. I don't really have a take other than he's a D-bag. I mean, we heard a lot of things about
him and all we had heard was that his D-bag. I mean, I never really, I never really heard that.
I played against him a ton when he was in Cleveland. I never, like the worst kept secret. I never
heard anything about it. Well, we didn't hear this stuff. But like, oh, we heard we, the word,
I don't know, maybe I shouldn't say this. The word that I heard a lot was just sleazeball.
just like yeah i mean now that now that we know like we see this shit in the article yeah like
douchebagssleas ball what else we can call a bunch of names literally he was literally like
the movie character of the bad male in society that we're trying to get rid of like you know not
not necessarily a numbers guy and uh and here's here's a picture of me chopping wood and you know
you like that smiley face with the next to the exclamation point like he's uh it's a loser i mean
It goes back.
The same thing with Porter.
Like, I don't, there's not even a solution.
Like, there's no, it's not go to re-ad.
It's not like, get better.
It's like, what the hell, man?
So, yeah, I don't know why he's still not technically fired.
I mean, he needs to be.
And that's, that hasn't been reported yet.
We're, you know, 18 hours away, has it?
Passing said it's, like, expected.
Yeah, it hasn't happened.
It is.
It is.
But, you know, I, I was kind of, people were getting on.
Cohen with the shot clock when they didn't hire Porter,
but that broke at night,
and then the first thing in the morning he fired him.
I'm like, this happened like kind of dinner time on the West Coast.
I don't know.
Who cares?
The dude sucks.
And, yeah, I don't know.
Let's just get it out of the sport completely.
Yeah, the Angels don't want me coming after them.
And the world.
Get it out of the world.
I hate the Angels front office management,
whatever you want to call it.
They are on my shit list.
So they better do the right thing here.
Alainnes was saying, yes, like the wielding the power thing is what's really wrong with this whole situation besides the sleazy text.
Like, I showed Olivia, look this guy.
Like I showed the article and stuff.
And she's like, why do guys do that?
She's like, do you think I want a picture of your pecks?
Like, do you think that's like that's going to get me going?
Like, so not only are you feeling your power incorrect.
You're just being like dumb about it.
Like you're so, like, I don't know.
I said this before with Porter.
Like, stop being so fucking desperate.
Like, I don't know, man.
Just a horrible situation.
Sorry for the victims you have to put up with this shit.
Yeah.
Real dumb.
Just start mocking them.
I don't even know if that's a solution.
Yeah.
Like if he sends the shirtless chainsaw pick, you know, to like try to be predatory.
I think you just, you just say something like,
how the fuck would you chainsaw with his shirt off?
You're dumb.
Yeah.
Stop sucking in your gut
You don't have apps
That was your initial reaction
To that picture
And let's not focus on the sucking in the gut
Because I've seen other people do that in pictures
That's not the crime here
He's just a D-bag
He's the first
Yeah
Fire him
Like a full grown male with a wife
And doing it to like reporters
Dude you know what
The industry has a problem with
giving out phone numbers.
You know how many times I've gotten phone calls from people that I didn't give my number
to from like within companies and organizations?
It's creepy.
I got stuff shipped to me at my apartment.
And it's very nice.
They're giving gifts and stuff.
But it's just like,
why is this freely exchanged?
You know,
why can the head of this company just get my phone number and my address and whoever
gives it to them just gives it to them?
I don't know.
I mean, it's creepy.
So fuck the PR team that just gave Mickey Callaway these female reporters phone number.
Stop doing that.
It's a great point.
Yeah.
Great point.
So, like, the Mets are saying, like, we're not involved.
We didn't know.
Well, whoever fucking gave Mickey the phone numbers?
That guy's involved.
Guilty by being a dickhead.
I don't know the correct term.
Yeah.
I guess that per-you could say that person, you would hope they didn't know
Mickey Calloway was going to send harassing picks.
They could have been writing a picture article or something.
You don't know the timeline there, but they did.
The Mets did have an incident that they looked into in 2018 and then rehired him in 2019 or something like that.
That's gross.
We also have that Daniel Murphy and Dustin Betroyo retired.
We should have done this before he went into Mickey Callaway.
Now I'm pissed.
And I want to talk about PD a little bit.
I mean, say stuff.
How do you know, tell me how you guys felt about him because obviously he,
was a nemesis for a long time for you guys.
And he won a lot of championships right in your face.
But he's so endearing.
Like, in my eyes, you got to like root for a guy like that.
Did you feel that way?
Yep.
Short guys stick together.
Altuve was my favorite player until all the cheating stuff came out.
And my favorite non-Yankee player and Padroia always like a thorn in your side that you enjoyed being there.
You just kind of wanted to get reminded that like, oh yeah, that guy fucking exists.
So it's a short guy thing, though.
I mean, I root for short guys.
You wanted...
Except pitchers.
I think for Yankee fans, you went to, if this dude was in pinstripes,
I mean, he would have been like a religion for me.
He would have been, you know, the closest thing I have to the good man upstairs.
What was that, David?
Yeah, I mean, I was like a kid kid during his prime and stuff.
and even then when you're like the most emotional about it.
It was like, I'm a short second baseman like that guy.
Yeah.
I always called my favorite player on the Red Sox.
His interviews are legendary.
Like the Laser Show interview is the best.
And if anybody doesn't know what I'm talking about, go Google Laser Show interview.
Basically, reporters are asking Padroia about Big Poppy's slow start to the season.
And he's like, he'll be fine.
He goes, you guys were saying the same thing two years ago when I was hitting a, you know, a buck 79.
Then what happened?
Laser show.
And he went, it's true.
It's the truth.
He spoke the truth all the time.
And I love that.
What's happening now is everyone's putting their favorite PD stories out there, their favorite interview clips from him.
And he's just like, it's classic stuff, man.
So, you know, hell of a career.
He was always really nice to me.
Didn't have to be.
We shared the spring training city together.
So see the day.
dudes out at blue sushi.
Yeah, always a good dude.
So, congrats to both them,
Pejoy and Ann Murphy.
I have a former roommate Jeff worked
at blue sushi for a while.
Did he? Yeah, nice. I have
something going on to my head now.
Okay.
Are a lot of the Red Sox stars short guys?
Does that play to the Red Sox
like blue collar, gritting, grind, lunch, pale philosophy?
I mean, you got Mookie, you got Pedro,
you got Pedy.
I was trying to, obviously Ortiz is a mammoth of a human.
I was trying to think, like.
The first couple I thought of were Mookiei and Pedro,
and then I was like in Padroia.
Devers and Bogarts are probably normal size.
Benny was supposed to be the successor,
and he's falling off.
How tall is Benny?
5-9.
Listed 5-10.
Listed 5-9?
Listed 5-9.
Easy on Benny.
He'll be fine.
In what sense?
He's still a really good baseball player.
Compared to the rest of the world.
He's falling off compared to like, you know, the league.
Well, yeah, maybe there was some unrealistic expectations with him, but...
Came in hot.
Yeah, he came in hot.
That's a weird thing in baseball.
That might have to be some sort of John Boy media article because they did...
MLB the show cover, Tatis came out, hot.
We like that.
Chat says no more was short and Devers is 511.
I don't think no more was short.
I don't think he was either.
Yeah, don't let the chat.
Wasn't he wasn't no more part of like the tall shortstop revolution?
Yeah. Chat monster got you there.
You guys, you guys, he had a bad 2020.
Other than that, he's been fine.
Benny?
Yeah.
He's been like, isn't he exactly league average?
I mean, 835 OPS 776, 830, 774, and then he had a 442.
Not great this year, Benny.
Okay, we know that.
but throw that out the window.
Yeah, I mean, but 19 and 17 were like exactly league average.
I mean, that's, you're talking about his, just his, his, uh,
we were discussing some, but he's good defensively as well.
No, he looked into that as his defensive numbers.
He's got positive defensive wars for his career.
But he's the one of the easier outfield spots and the metrics don't love him.
And there's articles written about how he bulked up and blah, blah, blah.
Hopefully he bounces back. How about that?
Positive clue says, positive.
buy stock and Benetendi.
The trick is, can't get too hot too early.
Early Benny looked like he was going to be the next,
you know, Red Sox short king that we're just talking about.
And MLB Network was talking about MLB the show, Tatis on the cover, hot.
And they were saying this person who was on the cover of MLB the show
had the most hits in a month since Joe DiMaggio.
And I'll let you guys think on it if you want.
Say it one more time.
A person who was on the cover of MLB
the show had the most hits in a month of baseball
since Joe DiMaggio.
So the first hint does nothing for me.
I don't think I know any covers of OMB the show,
so just had the most hits in a month since Joe...
I guess they'd have to be good enough
to be on the cover of MLB the show.
It's not going to be totally random.
They were a known amount of here.
I was no idea.
Any idea, BBD?
Well, I'm guessing you're bringing it up
because we're talking about Padroia.
Oh, no, no.
I was talking about getting good too early.
It's Yasil Puig.
He was on the cover of MLB the show.
He came up and he was like the story of baseball.
And that's where we're in this weird spot with Pueg
that he doesn't get the love he deserved.
But that's because we thought he was going to be a generational superstar.
Oh, like when we say Jason Dominguez is going to be Mickey Manuel,
Mike Trout, and Bo Jackson.
Is that where we're doing?
You're talking to the right guys, man.
What's going on with that?
Dude.
It's messed up.
If anyone doesn't know, they put MLB account put out, and they were like,
Jason, Jason Dominguez comps.
He's like the 36th ranked prospect.
He's 17.
Never played a minor league baseball game.
He's never played a minor league baseball game.
And his comps are Mickey Mantle.
Who was the other ones?
Mike Trowell.
Bo Jackson.
One of the best athletes of all time, Bo Jackson.
It's messed.
Dude, it's really messed up.
Like, I know we're kind of laughing, but I would really like to find out who put that graphic
together and say, like, hey,
you're being incredibly rude right now.
Like say,
let me ask you this.
How does that guy?
I mean,
if you see,
go check out his,
the tweets and all this stuff
that shows like his workouts that he's doing.
How does a guy that's that thick run a 636?
What?
Maybe he is Bob Jackson.
That's why they call him the Martian Trev.
All right,
I can't.
I can't do Marchant.
John's freaked out by him because of exactly what you just said.
It doesn't add us.
I don't have baseball cards.
I hate him.
I hate when Yankees have prospects that are this hyped.
It's nothing but a disaster.
And we get calls on talking Yanks all the time.
Like we got calls when he was 16.
There's like, call back when he's in double A.
That's talking 2023.
Like I don't even talk about prospects in rookie ball.
He hasn't played him.
Whatever.
It's going to be.
Is he going to debut ever?
Like, what's up?
Turns it.
People are still like calling for him.
It's like, hey, maybe if he doesn't come up in the next five,
years, he's not late.
Yankees fans are assholes already.
And to tell them that they have a 17-year-old,
that's supposed to be the next best thing.
I mean, this happened to Phil Hughes.
Phil Hughes got projected to be Roger Clemens.
That's what everyone said about Phil Hughes.
They said, is the next Roger Clemsms?
This is the next Roger Clemsms?
You pitch a no-hitter in his second game for the Yankees before he got hurt.
And it's just stop.
There's one team out there whose front office says,
like if you give me a minor league player comp to a Hall of Famer,
you're kicked out of the room immediately.
Just don't do it.
So pisses me.
I love Phil Hughes.
Love Phil Hughes.
We're a big Phil Hughes pod.
Everyone loves Phil.
It would be funny if that executive room,
everyone brought like borderline Hall of Famers.
It's like Todd Helen.
Clemmon.
Good news is,
Dominguez turns 18 on Sunday.
So basically ready.
I just can't imagine.
He looks like...
Ready to buy lotto tickets.
Himly son of gloin.
Hey.
No, his body doesn't make sense
that I'm worried about it.
Hey.
Who does say, in the movie,
dwarves are natural sprinters
very dangerous
over short distances.
Yeah.
Baseball.
Short distance sprints.
Hey, inside the park home run,
basically it's end zone, end zone.
Jason and makes.
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I'm trying to sell it.
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Ken Griffey Jr. was hired by MLB to do something
because they're in a fight with the players
Union, they're just trying to steal representatives
and it's kind of part of the nonsense.
In my honest opinion.
Make the game cool, Ken.
But good job by Ken Griffey Jr.
You got another ally, MLB.
Recruiting.
Like, what are the players union going to do?
They're going to start recruiting Bud Selegg?
Like Bud Selegg now represents the players union?
I thought about this a lot.
Like, what does this mean?
And I'm hoping it just means some sort of bipartisanship.
But I think it's more of a
press tactical.
move.
But, you know, all these guys are like stand up, like very well-respected people in baseball.
Rale Lou Banias has had every role you could ever think of.
And now he's in the NLB office.
So like I said, hopefully this leads to some, you know, handshakes across the aisle, if you will.
I don't think it, I don't think it will.
But, you know, there's a little bit of hope.
Griffey, to me, was awesome.
And everyone's saying Theo.
Everyone's saying Theo for the next commissioner.
Griffey for next commissioner.
Let's have a baseball player up there.
Why do we have to have some suit?
Theo for GM or whatever,
who came up, Boris came out with that idea.
CEO.
CEO.
And then the commissioner just handles all the disin,
disciplinary.
Disciplinary shit and all the nonsense.
And the CEO actually starts to spread love for the game
and grow it into new.
properties in new areas, clearly should be two different roles.
Boris says a lot of stuff that's wacky.
This one makes so much sense.
Have a CEO in charge of growth and partnering and the future and have a commissioner to regulate
all the nonsense and the contracts and the agreements.
I mean, pretty dumb.
I like it.
But asking baseball to do something different is basically like asking me to be taller
than 5'7.
I just put boots on.
Just put boots on kids
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