Talkin' Baseball (MLB Podcast) - 273 | A's & Rangers Trade + The Angels Make No Sense

Episode Date: February 9, 2021

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Hello and welcome to talking baseball. The Braves get their guy. The angels get all of their guys. The A's and the Rangers made a trade and a lot more. Let's do it. Hello and welcome to talking baseball. Thank you very much for joining us today. My name is Jimmy.

Sitting next to me is Jake. Trev is joining us from California. And we got producer Bug Bug Bug Dude in the booth. That's my headphones that are all the way down now. Hello. Hello, hello, and hello. All right, we're all good. Jake, how are you doing?

I'm good. James, Trevor, Big Baby David, everyone at home. What's going on? Baseball season. It's baseball season. It's baseball season. It's baseball, Susan. Mine and Trevor's bucks took home the title.

What a year it was. So, yeah, man, I'm excited. We looked at the sheet today. a lot of little moves and there's going to be a lot of little moves leading up till spring training. Trev, how are you? I'm great. Obviously the Super Bowl was this weekend and I celebrated the holiday that I've made up in my head. It's the Monday after the Super Bowl. It's a national holiday. So I celebrated that by doing pretty much nothing. And it was a great day. But now I'm ready. Like Jake said, it's baseball season. S-Z-N capitals. And here we go. I mean,

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First topic, OZuna returns to Atlanta. Four-year deal worth $65 million. There is an option for a fifth year that would bring it to $80 million. Big deal. One of the less big deals we may see this offseason. Ozuna goes back to the Braves. I like it. The Braves were almost World Series attendees.

They were up three to one on the Dodgers. They have a great team. in a big window, they're retaining the talent that helped get them there. Ozuna's like in his press conference, the one thing he said to the GM was like, what took you so long? Like, why did this take so long? Which was a good quote. Jake, not surprised by this, right?

No, I mean, we've kind of been waiting for Atlanta to make their move for a while. Everyone had been somewhat assuming Ozuna. There had been Chris Bryant rumors for a while. They were, Atlanta was kind of rumored for everything because they had moves to make in this this spot, I know, you know, the players I'm about to mention don't play the same position, but they had Donaldson, and then they went to Ozuna. And so, you know, that Ritey-Masher position. And, man, he was so awesome last year.

He finished six in the MVP voting. The biggest thing that screwed him was that damn first baseman of his Freddie Freeman going nutjob. But, I mean, he led the NL in homers last year. He led the NL in RBI. He led the NL in total bases. You know, his career numbers don't just. jump off the map, but actually the last four years, and I was tough on Ozuna last offseason. I thought going from him from Donaldson would hurt them a little bit.

He raked, and if you do his numbers over the last four years, I mean, 287, 355, 860 OPS, 100 plus homers. So he's a beast. He fits into the vibe of that team. Marce celebrate good times. Come on. Yeah, they had to do this. I mean, if you look at their lineup now, I mean, they pretty much got what they had last year, which was an explosive offense.

And I think really, I don't know how many teams were in on Marcel. I think maybe some AL teams were like, hey, let's see if we can get a DH going here. And when that turned out not going to be not going to happen for the 2021 season, I think the Braves maybe another two, three teams maybe were in on him. So I think that's what took so long, Marcel, if the Braves were waiting the market out a little bit. but yeah man he's been putting the numbers up we kind of have to take a step back from the 2020 numbers because we do that for guys that struggle so i also do that for guys to have excellent seasons in 2020 take it back a little bit you're not going to expect him to lead the national league

and homers this year but a force right in the middle of that lineup a veteran guy braves are scary braves are really scary azuna mashed fastballs last year and was awful against breaking balls. He had a 50% whiff rate on breaking balls. When he swung in a breaking ball, he missed 50% of the time. On a fastball, when he put a fastball in play, he had a 402 batting average. Not bad.

Pretty good. His whole career isn't that way, but last year, just sitting fastballs hitting homers. Not a bad way to do it. From that FanGraft's website, keep looking at him and Freddie rated out as the number one and two hitters in baseball last year, so good for those guys.

Yeah, and it's still a weird thing when we look at the Braves roster, and we've got the TPPs coming soon, the Trevor Plouffe team profiles and projections coming soon. It's still a weird thing. It feels like they're one big bad away. Like, Darno is still in the middle of that lineup, and he's been really good, but... I don't know, man.

You think they need another bat? I'm just saying if we wanted to talk about them, toe-to-to-to-to-to-with-the-podres. I do think that we'd, like, imagine if these Braves did the Aeronado trade. I think we would be talking about them as potential NL favorites. And, hey, let's take a step back. I mean, you know, that's getting one of the best third basemen to ever play the game, so I'm not saying they could have done that.

But I think we could be talking about them more toe-to-to-to-to with the Dodgers and the Padres. And right now, I don't know. I mean, they went, didn't they take, the Dodgers up to 3-1 and the Dodgers came back. Dodgers didn't get scared down 3-1. They went to toe to them. Yeah, they were a win away. But I see what Jake's saying,

but it's because, I mean, Darno had an amazing season last year. But he was a journeyman catcher, like up until that, kind of. I get that. He's in the middle of the lineup. What's that? To your point, they might not be done.

Who's, yeah, I don't know. else is out there. I think they're good enough now to start the season for sure and like our big, big contender. And then maybe at the, I think this team is ready to start the season and is looking really good. And then at the deadline, they can look for a bat or an arm or whatever they need then. I don't think they need to do anything more this off-season. And the Braves look great. Their top of their lineup is awesome.

Acuna, Aulia Freeman, Ozuna, Albies. Hey, didn't Dansby have a great year last year too? Like, hopefully that all translate. They need him to repeat that. They need Paché to come. I mean, he came up and looked really, really good last year. So if he comes up and adds another spark to that offense and defense, and then look, Justin Turner is still out there.

A guy like that, we're looking to upgrade third base. I would love that. I mean, they've also, so I do like the young guys on this team, Austin Riley and Pache, who are both penciled in the starting lineup right now. And, you know, hey, one of them hits, maybe one of them misses, who knows we'll see. Maybe they both hit. And Atlanta will come laughing at me. But if you put, like, Justin Turner right now,

I mean, this team could go six, seven deep with any lineup in baseball. And they've got a lot of the same pitching coming back, plus Charlie Morton, plus hopefully Soroka back in midseason. Like, that's when if they made, like, they're a move away from being, like, a legit number one team in baseball contend. They're still really good. I think they're still the favorites in the NLEs, so I don't want our Braves and mansplained Podgirls coming at us,

but I just feel like we keep waiting for this like Braves, fully engaged, like, Death Star move, and I don't think it's happened yet. Justin Turner is a big bad. I think people are a little poo-pooing him because he's getting older and because the Dodgers had so many big players that because he's not like, you know, the top, top-top guy in Dodger Blue.

People, I mean, for the last, you want to know Justin Turner's slash line for the last eight seasons, Trev? Last eight seasons combined, Justin Turner has a 301 batting average. In today's age, that's crazy. Eight seasons, 301 batting average. He has a 378 on base percentage over the last eight seasons, a 495 slugging, an 873 OPS, and a 136 OPS plus, 36% better than these contemporaries. over the last eight years. If the Braves were to add a bat like that at third,

and I don't think they need to, but if they wanted to be like, hey, we want to do a little death punch as well, everyone else is doing it. That would be a fun move. I don't know if they will. They've been rumored to be in on Chris Bryant. I think Aeronado, even they kick the tires on him a little bit.

So they're looking at that third base position maybe is not as a strength, obviously. And I think they are seeing that, hey, look, yeah, we got Ozuna back, we got Darno Kling back, but we can't expect those years again. I guess here's what I'm saying. The Dodgers went out and they got Mooky Betts before last season, and that was like the holy crap.

Like, the Dodgers are the favorite. It's happening. I kind of want the Braves to make that move. And I know Mooky Betts don't come available a lot. Noel Naranados don't come available a lot, but that price tag seemed pretty attainable. Everyone was laughing at it. So I don't know.

And I don't know if they end up in on Chris Bryan or Turner. or, you know, I saw some of them going Trevor storyweeds on me. Believe in Dansby, you know, my doppelganger, Vandy guy, he can do it. Happy for the Braves, happy for Ozuna. Keep hitting, Big Bear. Keep hitting. I'm looking at the payroll. They got room, man.

Yeah, man. If they're going to use that shit as a soft cap, they got room. Yeah. Plenty of room. Go do it. Get Turner. That'd be fun. Steal them.

Red hair, those unis? I don't know. Yeah. I don't know. Right now, I'm looking, this is on fan graphs. Tell me if I'm wrong, but they're at 156 million. That leaves a ton of room. They don't, I think this is, is this Freddy's us here in his contract?

But yeah, that's the whole thing with the Braves. They locked up Cooney and Albies. This is their window. Like, yeah. So I don't know. I don't know. All right, next step. Someone's not to tell us.

I just want to add one thing. Sorry. Someone's not to tell us because I know they're like that publicly traded franchise where their their financials are available. So like there might be some different kind of cap for this team that they abide by. So I don't know. I'm just saying in the general luxury tax threshold, they have plenty of room. My research says they have 50 over 56 mil in luxury tax space. One year 56 mil.

Give it to Justin Turner. Bauer. Bower to the bridge. Bower. We did have a trade over. the weekend as well. The A's traded Chris Davis to the Rangers for Elvis Andrus. This trade, there's a lot of other. A's are getting shortstop Elvis Andrews, $13 million, and catcher Aramis Garcia. The Rangers are getting D.H. Chris Davis,

catcher Jonah Heim and right-hand pitcher Dane Acker. This trade is the eighth and ninth place members of your fantasy baseball league who know they're out of the playoffs just bored wishing they could still be around and being like well I got an extra shortstop I was looking around the league

you don't have one you want to just make something happen here and then they did it now the A's are actually a good team so I don't mean that they're like the eighth place this trade does nothing for no one it saves the Rangers some money and the A's get a guy

guy to stand in the shortstop position. And that's about it. I mean, this, for such names, five years ago, four years ago, three years ago, such names to be involved. And my reaction was just like, okay. Cool. Got anything else? Any difference?

Trebs, these are your guys, man. I love both of these guys. I got to spend much more time with Crush, like a phenomenal human being. and some of the biggest pop you're ever going to see in the big leagues. Like his op-opop is ridiculous. He hits balls where you're not supposed to be able to hit balls. And then Elvis obviously leaves a legacy in Texas. What I found interesting about this trade was the teams got a memo about deadening the baseball.

Next day, the A's are going, they say, hey, we got a guy that has power. and that's kind of his only tool, let's ship them to the Rangers and get a shortstop who we kind of need a shortstop. So it seems to me like the A's we're like, hey, here's an opportunity. You guys know how I feel about the Rangers. Seems to me that they kind of duped him a little bit.

Is that fair to say? Who duped too? The Rangers dupe the A's? The Rangers are getting the better half of this trade. IMO. I don't know. Elvis Andrews has been bad, bad with the bat. Yes, but let's go back to him.

him being a shortstop and the A's needed a shortstop. And the Rangers were just moving him off short. Go back. Right, but that's because they had Kiner Folefa and they wanted to move on as a franchise. Elvis Andrews, his last full season at shortstop, 2019, he was a two-war player, which, hey, at the shortstop position, that's still valuable. So he only played 29 games last year. Elvis Andrews, we pretend, you know, it seems like we've known him for forever from those Texas teams. He's 32 years old. So I don't know how much he has in the bag at shortstop. Chris Davis has also been bad for Oakland. So both of these guys had been money pits.

The A's do classic A's stuff. They get money back. They basically swap bad contracts. And they get a shortstop out of this, which the shortstop market looked like it had been closing down. So if Oakland gets Elvis Andrews to stand at shortstop for 130 games this year and he could be a positive war player, that's essentially a win from them from where they were with Chris Davis.

And going on to the Texas side of it, we've been eyeing the Texas Rangers rosters, hint, team profile and projections coming soon. And you know, at least Chris Davis is a threat. That's what we've always liked about him. He's fallen off recently, but at least he scares you, which, hey, hey, maybe Joey Gallo gets walked and put on first base and Chris Davis is scary. But I don't know. Again, your initial analogy, Jim is kind of close to it. It's slop for slop, but I don't hate it. all those guys slop, stop. Well, they're just...

At this point. Both teams are like, hey, I got a DH who hasn't hit for two years, but maybe he can get better. You want to try him out? And they're like, well, we got a shortstop that hasn't hit for three years. You can try him out.

And then they'd swap positions and they're both banking on the same thing to happen. I think you guys are being mean to Elvis here a little bit. I defended Elvis a little bit. I'd like to say that. Yeah, you did defend him a little bit. I think he's going to be... He doesn't have to be the defensive wizard

of years past because guess who he has to his right? He's got Matt Chapman who has more range than anybody. I'm fine with his defense. I mean, I didn't, they moved him off short, but. Offensively, he's going to be fine for you. Like Jake said, he's going to bring, he's going to bring you positive. He had his 707 OPS. I know it's not great, but considered all short stops. What was his OPS plus? Like 75? 78.

Because it's got no pop. It's all, it's all 12 homers. I mean. gave you 2.2 offensive war that year, Jim. So it's not all about that. I think this is a great deal for the A's. I think they did a great job here. I would have just brought back Simeon. They didn't have money. They do. They're lying. They say they don't. You know that they weren't. I mean, yeah, I'm sure they would have rather traded for Lindor, but like, you're not a fan of fantasy. They're doing. They were doing it. They're being the A's, man. Simian's 30% better than Andrews.

Bat. Who? Simian. 30% better. That's 30% better. That means a lot better player. I know. So I'm just saying the A's got worse by this move. Not over their current shortstop. Simian's already gone. Yes, but there's other players out there. I mean...

Who? More trades. There's short stops next year. I don't know. Bring back Simeon. If you're an A's fan, like, you'd rather have Simeon. Yes, but it's not on the table. He's on the Blue Jays.

It was on the table before he went to the Blue Jays. Simeon was a below average OPS plus every single year of his career except for one. Every single year. So it's not like they're going from... It's a need for a need. This doesn't make the A's better. It fills up a whole defensively. It's a weird trade.

It makes them a little better. It's a financial transaction. The Texas Rangers were in need of an offensive threat. The A's were in need of a shortstop. Yeah, I'm having a lot. happy for Chris. Maybe he needs a change of scenery, man. But I do like this move for the A's. I do.

I think Elvis is a... He'll still bring you a few wins. That's what I think. Shortstop is nice with Chapman to his right. But they have them for two years now. But again, I want to say, these guys are awesome, awesome people as well too. So...

Culture-wise, like, it's an even swap. I believe it's a... Two years and then Andrews has a player option, so it's kind of three. Yeah, it's a vesting player option. So they might have Andrews for three years with some big money. I think there's like 30 mil attached. So if you're going to spend that much money, just give Semi and a deal. You're in a window here to win.

Well, they also got off of Davis. Davis is making 16 mil this year and Texas sent over money. And if we know the Oakland A's, I wouldn't be shocked if they, you know, mess with a vesting player option. Yeah, I wonder what it is. You get there. Wish D.A's didn't act like they were cheap. That's all.

Yeah. Yeah. When is someone from Silicon Valley going to buy these dudes and like... The A's owner is one of the richest owners, Treve. The A's owner is rich. He's a Calvin Klein guy, right? I believe he, I believe... Or the gap?

I believe he usually shows up in like the top section of owners. Elvis Andrews option for all the diehards. 550 plate appearances in 2022, which is like a full season. Or 1,100 plate appearances. and 21 and 22 combined. So they'll just fuck with that. Well, it also looks like because he's now been traded, the option vested.

Oh, it's in? The line below that, 2023 option becomes a player option with trade or waiver claim converted to player option. Oh, okay. So they are in? So they're in? So maybe that's why they got sent the $15 million or whatever?

So they're paying $28 million for Elvis Andrews? Well, they get off the Davis money and they get $13.5 million back to it. But say they were just going to trade Davis for a different need and then just pay Marcus Simeon. Well, Davis is dead money too. That's the other thing you got to factor in.

They paid them money to take Chris Davis. They're paying $28 million for El Salvador Sanchez to play shortstop. Marcus Simeon signed a one year, 18 million. You think if the A signed gave him a two year or something and then also traded... They're not doing perfect turkey math. I don't know about that math, but... You are right.

He is the eighth richardous owner. They could have traded him. Chris Davis is a huge part of it. But take, but this trade doesn't happen. They can try and trade Chris Davis for a different need. A different bad contract? Yes. I don't know if that's out there and they still.

Maybe. They're paying Elvis Andrews a lot of money. The A's have the, according to the chat, the A's have the fifth richest owner. He just brainwashed the entire A's fan base. I have him as the eighth richest owner. It's top 10. And they brainwashed the entire fan base to feel like their small market. We can't compete with the Yankees.

We're small market. No, you can. Your owner just brainwashed you. Boom. I lived in a Bay Area, so I used to get in a lot of fights with my friends about that. Because they pride themselves on it. And I'm like,

Right. Yeah, no fan base should be proud of your owner spending less money and you winning games. That's not what you should be rooting for. Only if you win games. And however you need to get there, get there. Don't root for your owner to spend less money. That's not.

Spend, baby. That's a dumb thing to think. as a fan. I'm sorry if you think that. You don't get bonus points for the owner saving money. Yeah, no. Is he the gap or Calvin Klein? That's all I care about. I don't know. Nobody knows. Crush Davis, you think he's going to look good in the

Ranger Powder Blue? Yeah, he's a great baseball uni guy. He makes a baseball uni look good. That's pretty big. Weird swing. Weird swing. Oh my gosh, you watch him. I don't understand the physics of it, but the guy has just extreme power. He's strong, no doubt about it,

but it's fun to watch, man. When he gets hot, he gets hot. But he also, when he gets cold. The A's owner is the son of the Gap founder. Okay, there you go. I was trying very hard to make a transition from Crush Davis into Cushy Dreams. Couldn't think of it.

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Well, honest for the pod. We'll send you some. For the people. Trev, I might need to smoke some of the CBD and cushy dreams after these next bullet points we have. You know how mad Jake was at the Angels last year in Dylan Bundy? I think I've climbed over him on the ladder of being mad at the Angels. Jim's officially become the Angels hater on the pot.

I mean, what are the Angels doing? They got Sledgers. They got Dexter Fowler and Juan Lagaris. Get pitchers. Get pitchers. No one cares. No Dexter Fowler slander on this pod. I won't stand for it.

I'm not slandering any of them. I'm slandering the fact. If the A's release one more fucking bulletin and it's not, we got Jake Oter Rizzy or we got Paxton or we got or we trade for a starting pitcher, I'm going to lose my mind. They're basically like walking around without shoes on and shopping for shirts. What are you doing? I get it, man.

It seems like that all you got to do is just go out there. This is me opening my checkbook up and this is me writing a check to a pitcher. That seems like all you got to do if you're already Moreno. You got the offense. You have real deal superstars, but you have no pitching. They got MVP. They got so many MVPs. I mean, the fact that we're

overlooking the Alex Cobb trade from the other week. Love Alex Cobb. I love Alex Cobb. Guess what? They're making a run at worst organization in baseball. The Texas Rangers still have that title.

The Angels are trying to be that way. If they didn't have Mike Trout, Anthony Rendon, and Shohei Otani, which are excellent players in signings, I would say that. At least they have those guys. But you're close. You are close, Perry.

you are close. Ardy and Perry, you're close. Dude, you know how usually teams, Jake? The Yankees do this a lot. Other teams do this. Like, they're our priority and they tell everyone else. Like, we ran into Brett Gardner's agent at winter meetings. And we're like, hey, is Brett coming back?

This was not this year last year. And they said, well, the Yankees told us their priority is Cole and they'll get in touch with us after that. And they told Didi that too. And Didi took it as an insult. It was like, well, if I'm not your priority, I'm going to the Phillies. How are the angels making any moves? Like how did they not say We need top tier starting pitching to match our top tier hitting?

We're not going to make a single move until we get that done. It's crazy. I mean, and let's not Perry, the new GM. I'm sure he wanted Trevor Bauer. Again, you know, they're a team that's been known to spend and we'll see what goes on. They did bring in Rendon last year. That was their big money thing.

You know, they traded for Cobb. They got Fowler. That was an interesting. Trade St. Louis basically paying the majority of his contract. I think, you know, they end up getting a one year, like one and a half million contract, and he gets reunited with Joe Madden. So they get some championship, some championship love going on in the dugout there. Yeah, man, I don't know. I start getting worried for my Angels fans. You know, I've been big on the Angels train. Bundy ended up working out for them, which had me eating bugs all of last year. Haney, solid. Like, They brought in Kintana and Cobb, and I think that could be it. Like, they got Riesel at the start of all this, which, hey, that was a nice move. You know, that's an MLB closer that you're putting at the back of your pen. I'm worried that this is kind of it.

And if they are, it's, you know, it's kind of you look at all of it and what does it mean? And I don't know. I mean, they're believing in a lot of guys that I don't necessarily. you know you know how we talk about teams over leveraging themselves with real estate plays i mean to my knowledge the angels have taken on a pretty substantial real estate play around the stadium they bought up a lot of stuff they're putting these apartment buildings with some some shopping and breweries and all this stuff right around the stadium and if that is the reason and they're not spending on pitching i'm going to be absolutely furious i don't have any information to back that up

that's just off my top of my head if that's the reason i'm going to be furious it's the same shit with the Cubs and what they're doing around Rigleyville and they've over leveraged themselves. Pandemic hits, boom, now they have to sell all their players. Stop it. You own a baseball team. Dude, do some baseball moves. It makes me upset when I think about it. Sorry. They got Sledgers for like nothing.

A player to be named later. They got Fowler for like nothing. I don't know, man. It's just weird. They extended Otani. They kind of basically bought out his arbitration, right? Yeah, two years. Two years, eight and a half mil. Are they going to trade everyone? Like, are the angels going to have a decent start to the year?

Look at all the free agents they have coming off this year, Jake. I mean, Pouls. What if Pools has a great two months and the Angels trade him for the second half of the season? He wins a World Series, not with the Angels. Extend them. Bring him back. How funny would that be? I think it's been working.

If, like, he had a Twilight year, last year of his career, they trade him. And he wins the World Series, like a World Series with. out the angels. That'd be fucking hilarious. Back to St. Louis. Oh my God. Done. Yeah, it'd be great.

Dexter Fowler, now he's a free agent next year. Cobb is a free agent next year. Reisel is a free agent here. Kintan is a free agent next year. The other Iglesias. Bundy. Hayney. So they just trade everyone.

That seems like something that they would do. Are they waiting for next year to go be in on this shortstop market? Are they waiting next year to be in on? Shortstop market. Stompton. Got a picture, you sons of bitches. They need a pitcher.

I know, Jim. Who's a free agent pitcher next year? I have no idea. If they told me, if they said, if they said, Hey, Trev, stop giving us so much shit.

We are waiting until 2022 when we have a lot of money coming up the books, including our pooholes. At least then, I'd be like, okay, you guys have a plan.

Because right now, what's the plan? Yeah, and that's the other thing. I mean, if we're looking at the books, Justin Upton, 23-mill this year,

28 the next. Albert's still getting paid. Like, you know, those should be big numbers that should be going to players in their prime from this free agency. And they're just not going to double up on them now. So I don't know. I mean, Trout and Rendon is still gross in the middle of that lineup. You hope Otani can bounce back and be the star of stars that he's supposed to be.

But yeah, I think, you know, they did make moves. They brought Jose Inglacius in Kintan. Cobb, Riesel, and you know, that's for a team that's spending, you know, $50 million on Justin Upton and Poolels at this point of their career, like I think those are the moves, but it ain't gone get you anywhere. No. I don't know, man. Boo.

There's still time. They could still sign Odarezi and we'd be like, okay, but. They just spent like $30 million. They spent so much money already and didn't get any people. It's crazy, man Like Cobbs, they spent 15 mil on Cobb I think the Orioles ate some of that

How much did the Reds eat? They got 10 mil on Rysol They got 8 mil for Cantana Cobb's gonna be throwing that splitter up there all day long I'm in on Cobb this year I'm in on him I like Cobb. Angels will pay 5 million of cop salary

Okay, there you go. Still, collectively, when you add it all up, there's still a good amount of money. Well, and that's what I think when you look at these transactions, you know, they end up getting Dexter Fowler for $1.2 million or whatever it's left. Love that. That's the help Joe Adel. Yeah. Treve, that is a really good point.

Like, Joe Adele came up and Madden came out with that quote. That's really, really tough that you hope maybe Fowler can help him and, you know, help him in Madden's relationship because that's tough. Yeah, I think he's going to go there. He's going to mentor him. He's also going to give him some time maybe to develop in AAA. I don't think he's going to start after those comments. He can't really be starting in the big leagues, right?

Yeah, I don't think so. Speaking of another Jonathan, scope goes to the Tigers one year, four and a half million. He was with him last year on a one-year deal. So scope up, baby. We got nothing here. You know scope, Trev? just playing against them the fun fact about scope i probably mentioned before he's signed one of those like fan tracks something one of those deals where a company bought out a percentage of his future

earnings for a lump sum payment up front so i i believe i believe they gave him like two or three million up front for like 15% of his future earnings. So every time he signs a deal, I'm always interested in the hey, he's got to give taxes, he's got to give his agent fees, and he's got to give fan tracks or whatever the company was a percentage, like how much is he going to net? So he's one of those guys I always look at, but he was, that sucks. He got one of the bigger paydays from that system. That was probably four or five years ago before he started earning some big money.

Weird, it's a weird thing. About that. Yeah, that seems crazy. Yaddy goes back to the Cardinals, one year nine mill, that's official now. So good job. Good for Yaddy, man. Nine mil is a lot of money for what Yaddy's currently bringing in the field. And I like Yaddy.

No, stop. Trev, nine mill? He means so much to that pitching staff. You give him $9 million. I give him $9 million to be a coach on that team. I'm very much, well, he would be the highest paid coach by a ton. He should be. Okay.

Yaddy. Highest paid coach in baseball. Huge. I'd give it to him. Huge. What other catchers are making that much money? Ooh, that'd be an interesting game. I don't know.

We're not worried about his offense whatsoever anymore. It's strictly pitch framing, handling the pitching staff, and being clubhouse leader. That's what we're getting out of Yadi. And that's huge, Treve. It's worth $9 million. Normally that guy is 5 mil max.

So I'm a little worried about it. his 39-year-old knees and when he turns that in July this year. We can't, we can't, we can't yell organizations for not spending money and then also yell organizations for spending money. Makes him the fifth highest sign.

Congrats to Yadi. Congrats to I'm happy for Yadi. It's bizarre. He makes him the fifth highest paid catcher in all of baseball. It seems like kind of like a legacy pay. Fifth highest, fifth highest paid catcher and highest paid coach. I know we don't want to spend a ton of time on this, but, you know, I remember when the twins brought Tori Hunter back.

There's 10 million bucks, something like that, 2015. And a lot of people said that's an overpay. But from my understanding, the twins, like, did the math and, like, they figured they were already going to make at least half of that back just because Tori, what he does what he does. What he does he factor that same thing in? Like what does Yadi bring as far as marketability? What's he bringing to the fans? All that stuff. It all factors in.

I think it was a no-brainer all off-season long. Just $9 million might be a little high for you guys, but I think he's worth it. I agree with all of that. Do you think any other team would pay Yadi $9 million? No, no, no, because he's not worth that to any other teams. Yes. I think that goes hand in hand what you just said. Yeah.

What was the coolest thing you ever saw Tori Hunter do? there was one game he wanted to fire us up and he like told me like I'm going to fire us up today I didn't know what he was talking about but he like planned and orchestrated he got thrown out that game and like threw a bunch of stuff like but he planned that and it did fire us up and like I would love to like be able to get to that point of my career where I could like hey guys guess what I'm going to fire us up and get thrown out on purpose like I wasn't ever going to be that type of player but Tori Hunter when he does it it's like okay any idea what year that was because I know Kyle is already hunting that down Yeah, 2015. Okay. He got tossed through some batting gloves. I think he took his jersey off. Like, he went for it. Were you laughing in the dugout?

I bet you could find some, like, points where he was like, you know. Wanking. All right. Okay. Good job, Yadi. Good job, Tori. Both end and I. Yadi, Tori.

Yaddi, yaddy, Yaddy, Yaddy, Yaddy, Air, Tori. Red signed D. D. Strange Gordon to a minor league deal. Chasing Streve. signs with the minor with the pirates. The Mets signed Jonathan VR one year $3.5.5 million. It's a good signing. That's kind of a real move.

We do have an image of Baltimore VR where he was racking up some war seasons. I think he had a couple four war seasons. I know the Marlins want a tournament to kind of a super util, and the hitting's been down the past few years. But he's solid ball player, man. and I think if you're the Mets, that's a guy, no matter what happens, you can kind of plug and play him. Is he going to play a full season for the Mets? Like starting?

No, right? No, I mean, they have him as a U-Til guy right now. He's a good U-Til guy. I mean, he's started. He played 162 games in 2019, and, you know, since 2016 he's played a full season. His bat, it's a little empty, so it's good, it's a little empty. So I like it more as U-Til plays twice a week. three times a week guy.

And when he got traded to Toronto, he went seven or a row on stolen bases. Yeah, I was going to say base running is a big thing, you know, bring him in the back end of games. Defense isn't great, not bad. Yeah. I like it. I mean, yeah.

His 2019 season was pretty good. 2019 season was pretty good. Still 62 bags back in 2016. That's ridiculous. He was 25 then. He was young. Yeah, no, he's not going to do that. But he can still run.

Like you said, Jake, seven for seven last year? As a U-Til guy, you like him. As a starter, you'd kind of be like, yeah, well, yeah. That's what I was saying. The Mets also signed Albert Al-Mawara. Sure. Ligara's replacement.

They're still looking for it. Yeah. You have anything on that? Well, the Angels just got Ligara, so no. Oh, actually, I think the only thing that's really impactful about that is that JBJ is still looking for a home. Mets were supposed to be in on him. I mean, it's looking like...

It's looking like... Houston. Boston or Houston. When I was reading an article about the Cardinals and Yadi, they mentioned they still need a right fielder. And one name they brought up was Josh Reddick. And I'm still out there. I love Josh Reddick and St. Louis. I think that's like almost the perfect fit.

Drinking a bud light, smoking a boke. He's such a good player, dude. You think Redick hates me? Because I like him still. Did you do something bad? What did you do, man? talked about the Astros cheating.

Yeah, yeah. Reddick was like one of the first active players to like follow me like way before. He doesn't hate you. Big stuff. No way. And he's very active with Savannah bananas,

as are we. I like him. You guys know how I feel about him. So I like him. I don't think he has any ill will towards you. I think the other thing we kind of missed of the Fowler thing is is the St. Louis side of that. It'll be interesting to see if they make a move for an outfield

or if they're going with all their young dudes. I mean, Dylan Carlson, Tyler O'Neill, Harrison Bader, Justin Williams. I think they got another prospect. Gorman, I think he can play. Carlson's a lefty, right? And they need lefties? Switch.

So, yeah, it's going to be interesting if St. Louis really believes in that young crop outfielder or if they're going to make a move for someone else. The one in the chat said Carlson's going to be the right fielder, but. Yeah, I saw that. I thought, I think they'd like that. like him a lot still. He had a triple last year.

I didn't hit one. I don't know. Carlos Cree agrees to 11.7 salary to avoid arbitration. Correa wanted 12.5 million. The Astros wanted 9.75 million. Instead of going to file and trial, they came to an agreement, kind of right in the middle. 11.7. Good job.

hear you say file and trial all day. Now they're a way to, now they're in talks about it extension or something like that. Part of me wishes none of this Astros stuff ever happened because I would love to watch a guy like Carlos Corre and not have any preconceived notions about him. Well, I'd like to continue to dislike him just for the reasons I disliked him before the banging stuff.

Before the banging stuff, I was very public. Loved Al Thuvae, love Verlander, enjoyed what Bregman did but didn't like like him but enjoyed that he was playing the heel He was playing the heel He was playing the heel

Baseball needs that And didn't like Correa But now it's all morphed What was it about Correa That was different than Breggman Because I feel like they're kind of Correa is a great A weirdo Trev

One of the Isn't Breggman kind of weird too though No Breggman just Regman's just kind of like like LSU tough guy. Yeah, he's just kind of like he plays the heel. Like he's like, you know, I feel like

Carlos Correa is more of a heel than Bregman. Breggman really wanted to be like that. Carlos Crea turned on the heel after all of this. Okay. Beforehand, he was just the weirdo. Like, you ever see his Snapchat's dance in? I don't.

And like, he calls the Astros like Super Apex Predators. He's just like, oh, dude. Like, no one's ever told you. you you're not cool before and you've made it all this way thinking you're cool that's kind of the vibes career put out then he turned it then he turned a roddy yeah yeah yes that's a great comparison yeah that's pretty uh apt kind of like oh no one's told you how to be normal before yeah i mean very similar backgrounds and career arcs like they were highly drafted that's highly touted

everything so like you like you You could see Correa doing the mirror kiss pick. That's the kind of personality. I watched the crown with Olivia. And like, you know, when you grow up and you're in, you're, you're proud of your environment. Everybody is. So like, Correa has just been like babyed and has had his ass kiss for the most of his life. So he's never, I don't know, man.

It's just like, it changes you as a person. Treve, you really hit something, man. What the Arod stuff? Yeah. Yeah. Both number one overall picks. six four short stop

probably going to slide over to third you kind of can't fault them because like I said they really just had their ass kiss I'd be that way too yeah you know it's like dang you start to believe that shit mirror kissing picks

I got those either way I could definitely see that shit 100% imagine taking a pick of yourself kissing a mirror and not it not being satirical and then publishing it and no one in your life

likes you enough to say probably don't do this, man. Yeah. That's who these guys are. Like, how do you not have one true friend that is like, hey, Alex, man? I don't know about that. Probably don't fucking do that. Your guy is rubbing elbows.

Who knows what's going to go on with him? Dude, that sweet was bizarre. That sweet was bizarre. Very. A.R. Judge, Shaq, Storelli, Bobcraft, um, J-Lo. BPD what did you just giggle at? Can you share it?

The next GM files guest is a good one. Oh, wow, just giggling with excitement. How about an ad? It's somebody who we've had on this show. Oh, I know who it is. It's Dale Scott. We need Dale back on. Love me some Dale Scott.

Bill's been very aggressive with me. Dale's running hot on the internet. It was running hot. Oh, he's got that private Twitter. No rule. You do what he wants. That's all we have. The health and safety protocols just got agreed upon.

There's no DH. There will be seven-inning double headers. There will be man on second base to start extra innings. There will not be expanded rosters. It'll be 26-man roster, which was supposed to be the norm last year. They will expand to 28-man rosters come September for September call-ups. That was supposed to be the same last year. The schedule isn't changing.

The players are going to wear some. tracking device for contact tracing. I don't really know what that means. There's probably a lot of bullshit eye wash protocols that they put in here to make it perceived that they care about this, even though they don't. And they're running back last year. So, like, I don't even think it's worth a full show to talk about or anything.

That's kind of it. Any surprises? No. Yeah. Okay. I would have liked them to give us a 10th inning straight up and then the 11th inning with the runner on second or something like that. Yeah, I think that's the only fear that two years of this

becomes comfy. One year and I, it's, I didn't not like it at all. I extra innings became a, oh no, I think that's the consensus. I'm saying that the players union and the MLB like it. It's comfortable with it. It's here. It's here to stay forever, I think. I don't like, I'm not happy with it.

They'll talk about it in the CBA. I'm going to be beating the drum. I think you came up with it first, Jim, with the two innings first and then All the numbers say... Yeah, 80% of extra inning games end in the 10th or 11th inning. So I still think you can play those clean. But hey, a lot of players said they don't want to go to extra innings in the regular season. I just think the regular season extra inning game walkoffs used to be exciting.

Now, if you don't walk off in the bottom of the ninth and you get to this, it really wasn't exciting at all in my opinion. It was, I used to make breakdown videos for every walkoff for like every team because it was just exciting. I don't think I made any last year because it was just as boring. I also hate seven eight eight double headers if I'm being honest. I think when you're a player,

you're like, uh, it's okay because we can get through it. But as a fan, I just, I'm not into it. But barring any outbreaks, Corona related delays,

there should not be. that many doubleheaders. Usually a team in a regular season maybe has four doubleheaders over the course of six months. Last year we had, you know, a lot every single week. And I think sparringly, who cares, it'll be all right. But yeah, I wasn't a big fan. But again, players liked them. But and then no DH because the MLBPA doesn't want to give in before they don't have to. which fine. They don't want to negotiate before they have to negotiate. That's all.

Mike Fires, Mike Fultenevich. One of you guys have an ERA under five deal. Forget about that. Not bad. That's it. Both MFers. Yeah. Yes.

Yes. Michael Phelps sounds like an M-F or. It's actually M-P-Her. That's all you got to know about. that. Thanks for joining us, guys. We will be back at a later date. Guys, we will... Oh, shut up. Delights on me. I always do this BBD and it's just my fault and I'm dumb and stupid. Anything else? What?

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