Talkin' Baseball (MLB Podcast) - 3 | July 15th | Angels No-Hitter, Cashner & Bailey Trades & Past World Series Additions

Episode Date: July 15, 2019

Welcome to Talkin' Baseball! On today's show, we talked about the Angels no-hitter in their first home game since Skaggs passed away. We talked about the Cashner and Bailey trades. What additions past world series teams made at the deadline. Slump watch. Standout performances. Awards and Elevator talk! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Hello and welcome to Talking Baseball. My name is John Boy. I got my best friend in town with me. His name is Jake. Jake, how you doing? I'm good, Jimmer. How you doing, brother? I'm good.

I was trying to cue up this song. We don't have it queued up, but a little talking baseball. This is a terrible version. Oh, my God. Yeah. Oh, here it is. Should this be our theme song? We haven't decided on this.

I mean, when it be bad because it's like a real song. We'll just do that 15 seconds. Welcome to talking baseball. This is the first episode we're streaming live on YouTube for our patrons. It should be up on all podcast apps soon. Every Monday, every Friday we will be coming to you. We have some experience in the podcast world. We have a talking to yanks podcast.

That's right. We are Yankees fans. I think we won't be the Yankee fans. expect us to be, which is a good thing. So there's that, and we have a bunch of podcasts on the network. This is our newest endeavor. We are excited. We've been putting a lot of work into it.

Jake, how are you? Got anything you need to say to the people? I'm good. Yeah, I'm a Yankees fan. I don't know what you're talking about. I think the people find I'm just a neutral baseball fan with no biases at all. Go Rocks? Huge Rockies fan, huge Blue Jays.

fan. I mean, I got the ink on my skin for a reason. And yeah, man, it's exciting. We've always kind of been baseball nuts. I think it's kind of funny how the life cycle comes in with baseball a little bit. Like, I don't know. When you start out working in the real world, you don't watch as much baseball as you used to when you're living a fake life, whether as a kid, high school, college, whatever it may be. And now we got sucked into this Yankees world and now we're in baseball world. And I think we're going to let it rip. I think our voices is what baseball is looking for, man. Baseball's still cool and fun and like a good time. But I mean, even you and I were getting fed up with, and well, I guess we'll start here, but the ESPN broadcast of last night's baseball game, Dodgers,

Red Sox last year's World Series goes 12 innings and they were just leaning so far into the like, oh my God, 12 minutes. We're still here. Are they going to turn the lights off? And it's like, it's kind of cool, though. This is a, I don't want to get on my soapbox at one. Yeah, let's don't do the whole tangent. Anyway, baseball is a problem where the people that have the most influence about baseball downplay it all the time and say it's this boring, terrible sport.

And it's like you have all the authority to spread the cool and the fun. And we have a Sunday night baseball game tied up in the 12th inning with some weird plays at the plate and outs on third. And it's like an interesting game. And the crew was talking about how brutal it was. And we should just do ties. And like, oh, my God. Think about this. If that was like a Sunday night basketball game and it was LeBron and Kauai and they were in like triple overtime,

like everyone would be on Twitter like get over here now. Tune. These guys are doing it. Meanwhile, on the broadcasts, they're basically saying we're trying to get out of here, when's the Who concert? So I don't know. I think our intro is there.

At one point, at one point on the broadcast, Mendoza and Visturian, how do you say his name? You're around it. Contemplated whether or not the fans that are attempting, ending the 12th inning of the Tide game should leave early so they don't miss their trains. And that's what they said out loud on the broadcast. And what a bad message. The message should be, I can't believe anyone would leave their seat with a game like this going on.

That's what the message would be. And they get to turn it to Arod. And he's like, I think he should bunt here. Yeah. Let's get back to the game. And then the Dodgers scored and they were like, do you think Red Sox fans are cheering so they could get out of here? and it's like, wow, yeah, that sounds like a Red Sox fan to me. What a terrible broadcast.

So there we are. So anyway, let's get back. Just hot takes and rants. We thank you for tuning in, checking us out, giving us a chance. We have a ton of fun segments. We did two practice episodes. We, we, every segment we did, we liked. We'll get your feedback.

Eventually we're going to need your help getting, uh, because it's impossible to watch every game in baseball. We did the math on it. It's like actually impossible. It's like 30 something hours every day of baseball. So we're going to try. and gain as much knowledge. And this is how this works is every Monday.

We're going to recap the weekend series. Every Friday, we'll recap the weekday series. That's a pretty standard formula right there. I'm pretty happy with that. And let's just get straight into it, Jake. We have your National League report. It's going to be brought to you by Jake. Story Ellie.

Jake, what happened this weekend in the National League? James National League Report. Atlanta Braves. They sweep the Padres out in San Diego. All of them were close games. Tough start for the fathers out of the All-Star break. A couple good pitching performances in Atlanta. The Nationals take two out of three from the Phillies, Strasbourg Corbin Show.

They do their thing. Michael Franco saves the Fills with a walk-off in the last game. Mets win the final two games of their series against the Florida Fishies. The Cubbies bring their brooms out after the break. sweep the Pirates in Wrigley. The Brew Crew lose two out of three to Los Hippido Hiantes, the Giants, Buster Posey, Grand Salami, an extra as a game one. I like that.

The Cardinals win the final two games of their three games set against Arizona. Tyler O'Neill, four RBIs, aka all the runs scored in game two in a win for the Cardinals. And the Reds dropped two out of three to My Rockies, apparently. Coors effect, baby, 45 combined runs in the final. two games, two games, 45 runs. And last year's World Series, you heard us mention it. Dodgers Red Sox split the first two games and blowouts. And then the Dodgers win the rubber match in 12 innings last night in Fenway.

I'm looking at this. Great job by you as always. Always. I'm looking at this. Sometimes. Sometimes. Sometimes. Sometimes.

Let's be honest. Sometimes. I'm looking at this, Jake. Yeah. You just told us the Pirates and the Reds lost series coming out of the break. Uh-oh. The trade deadline is July 31st. Uh-oh.

Ticking time bomb. There's no waiver wire deadline. No. July 31st. If the Pirates and the Reds lose their next series, they should trade. They should get pieces while they can, especially the Reds. They have a lot to offer teams. Two weeks into the deadline, away from the deadline.

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like those teams needed to come out of the gates flying, and they did not. Well, and it's, man, I mean, even, it'll, the NL Central is a mess, and I don't know how it's going to sort out. Because, I mean, the brewers, man, like, they lost two out of three to the giants. They're not going to punt. I mean, they're all in with yellage. Like, they're not going to think they're going anywhere.

But that's a difference. The Reds, the Pirates have been mentally out in my head throughout. Same with the Reds. There was that stat like a week ago that the Reds were four and a half games out. No, they're not. They're four teams out from being first in their division. And I think that's the better way to look at it. The Reds have been out for me, and the Pirates, I mean, I'm sorry Uncle Rick.

He loves the pirates, but no. I think the weirder thing is you've got to think if they make the playoffs, Do they have the magic to go deep? And they don't. So just don't tell that to Derek Dietrich. Because he has the magic. They got a lot of pieces. Derek Dietrich is the magic.

Take advantage of the trade deadline. Man. But yeah, we'll get more into that earlier. Yeah. The Cubs. The Cubs lost? No, what are the Cubs swept? Cubs swept.

Which they needed because they went into the break. Pretty beat up. They needed it. So they distance themselves from Milwaukee. It's now two and a half games in the central, which isn't bad. And the Reds are now six and a half. They were four and a half at the break. But yeah, the Red's time to sell.

You guys got pieces. Go get yourself. Something for the future. The West is a shit show. The Dodgers. We said this on one of our practice episodes. I think it's a great point that you had. Because Arizona, Colorado, and San Diego are all so close,

all three of them probably miss out in the wild card because they're going to spend the rest of this half beating each other up. Yeah, I think it's going to be a game of chicken a little bit because San Francisco, they've been playing decent baseball of late, but I mean, they're not going to get into this thing. San Diego got swept. They were 500 going in the break. Now you're 45 and 48, and it's like, that's going to be a tough message, but you kind of have to, you should still be selling what you can because you have all your young guys.

Machado's going to be there next year. kind of build it up because the Dodgers are running away. Arizona and Colorado are playing a game of chicken of who's going to sell off some parts. I think Zona's going to trade to people. Because my Rockies don't want to. And the Diamondbacks, man, I mean, they don't want to either. They just got Jake Lamb back. Eduardo Escobar is a good player.

They sold before the season. And we saw when the Yankees went in there earlier this year when we saw them, I don't know, Arizona's looking for a fun environment and good baseball. They're not, I think Arizona is the kind of team that you have to think about it. If they start putting a bad product on the field, I mean, tough to go to a D-backs game. It's too hot. It's hot. It's way too hot.

Did you imagine living in Arizona and there's no ocean? It's nice. It's a getaway. I think that's their biggest cell right now. A little air conditioning. No, no. If it's that hot, I need an ocean. Go in the dome, baby.

That's their cell. $15 for free AC. Come in the air conditioning. What's going on in the American League, Jim? American League report. Here we go. The Rays and the Orioles faced off. The Rays took two out of three.

They crushed them in the first game. Then they lost a close one. Yankees and the Jays were tied at one, and the Yanks win the rubber match. So the Jays and the Orioles both lose. It's kind of the story of the AL East. All the bird teams are losing this year. sorry to all the birds out there.

Like you said, the Red Sox lost the series to the Dodgers. Tough team to come out of the break if you're the Red Sox. You've got to face the Dodgers right away, who are one of the special teams going right now. In the Central, the Twins and the Indians faced off. The Twins won the first two games, a good start by Bieber. And the third game helped the Indians avoid the sweep. Good job, Justin Bieber, pride of Cleveland.

Oh. They're saying he's the new LeBeeber. Bron. Do you know you just called him Justin? Justin Bieber. Do you think he gets called a different name? Shane. Name he's been called his whole life.

How many people in the clubhouse do you think just call him Justin? They call him Bebes. You stay away from the front name. He's got the last name. It's been his nickname forever. You just go Beaves. You don't mix into Justin. No, it's like a dig.

What's up, Justin? No. That happens to him all. Bebs. Yeah, but that's when you're being friendly. When you're being unfriendly, you call him. Justin. That's what happens.

Anyway, the Tigers and the Royals in a series that no one gives a shit about. Both these teams have now combined for 62 wins, Jake. 32 and 29. But Detroit avoided the sweep.

The Royals won. No one cares. You know who had a really good start? Max Keller or something. Brad Keller. Brad Keller. Yeah, he had a really good start. White Sox and the Athletics squared off and the ace. swept him with a weird walk off at the end. But this is big for the A's, and the White Sox aren't contending, but they want to have fun.

But a sweep is pretty big for the A's right now who are making trades, and we'll get into that later. Mariners and the Angels faced off in an emotional set, and the Angels swept the Mariners. So good for them. Angels doing some sweeping. Astros and Rangers had a four-game set. The Rangers took the first two games, which is kind of surprising because Houston was kind of limping into the break. but then Houston came out. They won seven to six in extras.

Then 12 to 4 in the final set. There was a walk-off in there as well. The standings didn't move that much. The Yankees are still in first in the east. Up six. Minnesota Twins still up six and a half. They actually helped themselves out, beating Cleveland, who's in second place.

And Houston's up six in the west. Oakland gained some ground with the sweep. I mean, Oakland and the Angels both swept, and they're still six and 11 games back. the wild card the AL is really a three-team race in our brains maybe four for the wild card but that's what happened nothing nothing catastrophic in the standings happened first game out yeah don't tell that to our white socks fans because they were they're getting that wild card no they're not um but they again like this sweep for the white socks is probably a good thing for them um they they drop to eight and a half out of

the wild card. You can't, the White Sox came into this year. They wanted Harper. They wanted Machado. They signed their cousins and brothers, literally. And I think for the White Sox, like, you guys had a fun first half and a lot of good things happened for you. Juan Moncada had a good first half. That's good news because he was pretty bad before that. What's his name? Gialito. He had a really good first half. You've got some things to build around now. Tim Anderson, Jose Abraeu, they established this culture in the dugout, which is key. good times. Kopeck will come back next year.

I don't know. Like for the White Sox, I think if any of our White Sox fans are listening, they may not be pleased, but they may be very pleased because if you're a smart White Sox fan, you're not going to jump LAA, Texas, Boston, Cleveland, Oakland, Tampa to get into the wild car.

So we have the same take, basically. I said it with the Reds and the Pirates. You're saying with the White Sox, losing out of the break was probably better for them. but not really fanhood because fans want to win but organizationally like all right good let's not break our backs to win right now because trading and establishing for next year has always been the goal right we kind of got a little sidetracked with this winning doesn't that have that suck when you get

sidetracked by winning the texas rangers asked them about it they're 50 and 44 and lancelan looks incredible you might hear him mention they have so many pieces to trade The Rangers have so many pieces to trade If they were out of it They got Lancelan. They got Hunter Pence. They got Mike Minor. But they're being sidelined by winning.

They might be the team that most teams are rooting for to sell Because they have the most pieces. Yeah, but they're getting fucked because they keep winning. Yeah. Well, good for them. And I think, I guess on the other side of that, like I like what Texas is doing. and Texas had a winning culture a few years ago,

the Ron Washington years, and they're doing good things, and it makes sense, well, I don't want to say it makes sense, because I saw Lance Lynn throwing 98 on the black the other day, and we haven't seen that since his St. Louis days, kind of. But, like, it does make, it's not like you're looking around and, like, all right, our guys are doing bad, but we're still winning games. Like, Pence had a huge first half. Lance Lynn, Mike Minor, had huge first halves,

and they've got the young talent. We saw Joey Gallo flaunted in the All-Star game. So I don't know. What else do we need from these series from the weekend? No, that's all. Let's move into the major storylines. And the biggest one, and this seems a little old now because baseball moves so fast, is that the Angels had a no-hitter on their first home game.

Everyone's wearing the number 45. And the numbers surrounding it are insane. Trout hit a home run that was 454 feet, which in parentheses, stat-cast is bullshit. and I don't believe it, but that's cool that that's what we get to say happened. The no-hitter, combined no-hitter is wild. And then the other thing was the last time a no-hitter happened in California. It was on the day of Skagg's birth.

So emotional, weird. I once brought, I once brought like something like this to my history teacher. It was like that Abraham Lincoln and John F. Kennedy, their secretaries, had the different names and there's a-da-da. and my teacher looked at me and said, you can find weird numbers about anything in the world if you want. This isn't interesting to me. And I said, oh, okay.

So he kind of bummed me out, and now I have a bummer brain about things like this. Yeah, I'll say this, because I think that bummer brain is true, because you saw there was a lot of people on the internet that were like, all right, well, there was one run, nine hits, or whatever it was, and they started adding up the numbers. And it's like, yeah,

If you start reaching around the scoreboard. The birthday one's cool. The birthday one is super cool. The 454 home run, stat cast is a load of shit anyway. Half cool. I mean, the biggest thing is you have a field of people wearing 45 for a pitcher who passed away. You throw the no hitter. I mean, it was unbelievable.

It's incredibly emotional. His wife or mom throughout the first pitch. Yep. Yeah. It's incredible. And it's, yeah, it's just, it's some, it's the beauty of sports. It's people that, people that don't like sports, which is fine. If that's not your prerogative, that's okay.

But sports is the original reality television. Sports is that. If you watch any reality TV or anything around reality TV, sports is that. Yeah, and the only thing that was comparable, and I mean, people were posting this, so this is an original thing, but the D. Gordon Homer after Jose Fernandez passed. I mean, one of the least power-hitting players of all time hits a homer and starts crying around the bases, and you're just like, Jesus. So it was cool, power of sports and all that.

And I think Felix Pena might hear him later. He was seven innings of that no-hitter. So shout-out to him, but it doesn't get much cooler than that. Yeah, well, the raise almost tried to make it even worse. Tried to one-up them. And it's like, yo, come on the raise. That's pretty rude. rude.

Ray's had a perfect combined perfect game going. And it's like, Ray's the, this is the Angels moment. So why don't you back the fuck off? First, first hitter in the ninth. And I think,

you and I talked about the All Star break a little bit. And we wanted it longer. And then it happened. And we were like, we want it shorter. And I think we definitely saw a little bit this weekend of rust. I think it's, it's kind of crazy that.

I wanted to do a big report on all the starting All-Stars. I saw Freddie Freeman, Alonzo had terrible. weeks. So I wanted to do a report on that and see like how the hitters did, but I was like, that's a lot of work. Yeah. So yeah, I don't know. I think there is, I think there was

if I were to guess, I think there is slightly better pitching performances, but it's funny how you hear the general lines, creatures of habit, and then you kind of see it and it's like, oh, okay. Yeah. Jim, I think the other news from this weekend, and you saw us starting to hint

in our AL and NL reports, trade deadline is sneaking up big time. We had the first couple of trades. Andrew Cashner stays in the AL Beast. He goes from the Oreos to the Red Sox. He's been pitching well lately. A couple 17-year-olds going for Andrew Casher. Any Elio Prado or Nolberth Romero fans out there, get ready for Baltimore in six years, if either of them are good. And Homer Bailey gets traded straight up for minor league infielder. Kevin Merrill. Yeah, let's stay on Cashner first.

Sure. Talk about this. Caster, his ERA's not great on his career or this season, but he's been pitching really good. His last seven games are really, really good. He, he, this is weird. Cashner, there was an article that came out that said he would almost refuse a lot of trades to leave Baltimore because he likes Baltimore so much. Right.

Also, when he was with Miami, Don Madden, he's in Miami and he makes his player shave his beard and cashner hated he said it's part of him he couldn't pitch without his beard so the fact he gets to go to the red socks and be his ugly self and gets to be like ugly himself up with a weird haircut and a beard i'm happy for him there he found a home right he does have another year on his contract so the red socks got him for this year and next season and the return being only two 17 year olds is kind of it's not like shocking but it's like man, people really overvalue trades. And I'm not saying anyone thought Cashner was going to be worth a lot.

But I guarantee you any mock trade the Orioles fans were looking at or Red Sox fans for Cashner included something better than these two 17 year prospects that are complete. They have value, but like complete crapshoots. If it was a true rental, this would make 100% sense. The fact they have them for next year too. Maybe like someone who's in AAJ. These guys aren't even an A ball. It's not like their 17-year-olds who are flying up the charts.

No. Dominican Rookie League. Dominican Rookie League. They haven't even really started their professional careers yet. Yeah. It's, there's a lot of interesting things going on. So you talk about Red Sox fans talking about what they'd pay for Andrew Cashner. I don't think they were talking about it. Andrew Cashner wasn't being mentioned. And I think that's kind of the funny dynamic with this is that Andrew Cashner seven starts ago kind of wasn't a trade piece.

Like if you trade it for Andrew Cashner, your team wouldn't be too excited about it. And you mentioned that second year of the contract, that's actually part of the risk of this trade. And I think people are overlooking that. That being said, because I don't want to come off as Yankee Centric, Cashner has been really good his past seven starts. He's in the AL East, so he's been doing it there. And that's always a big thing for AL East people. I think it's interesting that that extra year is a coin flip for both teams.

I mean, if Andrew Cashner comes over and he's the Andrew Cashner that's a career 5ERA guy, I mean, that becomes a hindrance to the Red Sox. If he comes out and he pitches well, you know, that's a bonus for the Red Sox and they did really well in this. So I think, you know, I think there's the normal coin flip of when a guy comes over, what are they going to look like? I think both teams kind of flip the coin here, though. I think the Orioles were kind of betting on his whole body of work and saying, hey, we like these two kids and we're doing a big rebuild here in Baltimore. We'd rather have these two 17-year-olds in house than whatever Andrew Cashner can provide us.

And I mean, Andrew Cashner, if he has two bad starts, what's his return? Yeah. So I don't know. I kind of like it for both teams. and I mean, I say that again, with very little hopes that Elio Prado or Noel Berth Romero make it to the majors, and the socks bringing an arm, which kind of moves their chain of events with the Valdi going to the closer,

and maybe it can line things up for them. How much does this help the Red Sox? Because the biggest thing this does is allows them for Valdi to go become their closer or, you know, a big part of their bullpen, which is a role that his stuff plays. but we've never seen him do it. He's never been that dude to get handed, like the mental aspect of it.

He's never been that dude to get handed the ball. So, like, Cashner helps a starting rotation. He wouldn't be in the playoff rotation for them. It's just kind of a cog to eat some innings, but it really allows a ball to do you to go to the bullpen, but is that going to be a success? And then is this the move that the Red Sox make? Because if this is the move,

then that's basically the season. And they need to do more moves. So if I was a Red Sox fan, I think you can hopefully say that they're going to try and do more to help the Red Sox, the front office. But that's what you thought in the off season. They didn't get anyone. Now you promised to Valdi he'd be a starting pitcher for you when you signed him. Now he's in the bullpen and he had traded for another starting pitcher. Or Valdi's like, yo, dude, I'm the starting pitcher you traded for or you signed.

So I don't know. Bit weird. Yeah. And so the Cashner stats, which we wrote, his past five starts, 32 innings pitched. 141 ERA. Before that, he was 504 flat ERA on the season. So, hey, maybe he figured something out and he's going. I mean, he's been around for a while, so it's not like he's a young guy figuring it out. And yeah, I mean, my counter to your argument is if you're a Red Sox fan, you hope this isn't the last trade. And I don't think that's rude to say. If you're an optimist, though, you can say, I mean, there's a bullpen effect that happens when you add a guy. So, and I mean, say Kashner's solid, or even if he's not that solid, but he's around and he's your fifth starter. If Avaldi can go and he can close, which I mean his stuff can play up in the bullpen because he's always had that fastball, then if he locks down that close a roll, which

has been a problem for the socks all year, Brazier moves down, the other guys all move down a notch and lower leverage ending. So there can be effect there, and this can work. I think it is a little bit more of a Hail Mary than Sox fans would want. But they got their ring last year, and I think they want to stay under that salary cap number. So that's how baseball kind of operates now. Yeah, luxury tax. Yeah.

Another trade, Homer Bailey to the A's. This is just the prospect that they brought someone in is probably exciting for Oakland. Yeah. They sweep the White Sox. And they have a walk off and they make a trade. So right now the vibe in Oakland is, hey, we're doing this. Like this is one of the seasons we're going to try to win.

How about that? Once every five years, this shit happens. Let's do it. Homer Bailey is not the sexiest name anymore. Well, actually, as a name, Homer Bailey is pretty. Homer Bailey. Homer Bailey. It's pretty great name.

Yeah. But he's getting older. We did see him, Jake, pitch a gem first the Yankees earlier. six innings pitch, one earned run, and he looked good doing it. I remember that. He's got, what does he got? A sinker ball? He's, well, this year so far, 90s, 90 innings pitched, 81 strikeouts.

So his strikeout per nine has kind of moved up. And you wonder, I mean, did the A's see something? Is this going to be a move that we're like, wow, how about those A's? They made a nice move for Homer Bailey. or were the A saying, hey, we've got an MLB arm here that, you know, we might be able to get some good innings out of. And he's actually, he's had a really good stretch recently, too. He had one bad start within these, in his last five games started, so both these starters with their last five are pretty impressive. 29 innings pitch, 24A, 26 strikeouts.

So I don't know. I think this was both of these moves might have been kind of anticipatory of not the busiest trade deadline. And kind of two teams that were like, we're not making the big move this year. So if the best arms available are Marcus Stroman and then maybe Madbom, if he's willing to come to your teams, maybe these two teams were like, we just want to get ahead of this and we want to get an arm to help get us through. And they got Cashner and Bailey. These are two guys that are not going to be on the playoff roster, like, you know, getting starts. Maybe Castor moves the bullpen.

But the A's had a big opening with Frankie Montes going down for PEDs. Cheating. Cheating. So now they need another starter. Illegal. I mean, but fires Anderson, even, who's this, Bassett, and that crazy. And then they have the opener. Who's that crazy dude with the mustache?

Mengden. Mangdon. Daniel Mengden. They piece together starts. But, I mean, good for these guys. It's, you know, good for baseball and good for us on this show because it's a good appetizer of trades before we get into the meal. Real, real stuff. And I think, Jim, I mean, do we want to do the whole trade deadline spiel?

Yeah, I did a lot. I put a lot of effort. I won't go as long as Jake's probably scared I'm going to go on this. No. But I did. I'm excited for how excited you are about this. I did a lot of research because this is what spurned this off. So this is World Series deadline moves of the past years.

I want to lay the groundwork a little bit. But you didn't really understand where I was coming from yesterday. No, I did. I think I'm less surprised than you are. But we'll see. I'm not surprised. Okay. I guess that's what surprising to me.

I'm zero. I'm zero surprised. I'm proving a point. Exactly. So on Yankees' Twitter. one of the sexiest things to yell is the fact that, you know, this team isn't where it needs to be. We need, this team's not complete yet. We got to get another arm.

And I think what got to young James here was the fact that every team at the deadline goes out and makes move. There's not a complete team at the deadline, whether it's smaller things, bigger things. Most of the time, pretty significant things, every team makes a move. So with that. I gave it to you, James. I went through the past eight World Series winners. I think eight. I was going to do 10.

I got tired. It was a lot of work. Basically, I want to say what Jake said. Every team changes. And then I just wanted to see like, all right, well, the World Series winners, let's see what moves they made and how much it actually helped them. And some, it helped a ton and some it didn't. And it was interesting to see what moves they made that kind of just like didn't or did.

So 2018, the Red Sox added Steve Pierce, Nathan Avaldi, and Ian Kinsler. Kinzler became a defensive replacement. He got innings in the playoffs, but he wasn't a hero. Steve Pierce, World Series MVP, was great for them from the day he stepped on the field, platooned at first with Moreland and was just phenomenal. Nathan Avaldi, great. He went like those six extra innings, ate a lot of innings, pitched really well, came out of the bullpen, had a 1.6 one ERA in the postseason.

So the 2018 Red Sox, their additions helped them. Pierce and Avaldi helped them win the World Series. Oh, yeah. 2017 Astros, you got Justin Verlender is the biggest piece. I mean, that's the nuke. That is the nuke. That changed the history of baseball. He was available to any team that wanted him.

Yeah. Because his contract looked like an albatross. And again, if he went to the Yankees or the Red Sox or the Dodgers, I mean, I think we're talking about any of those teams as starting a mini dynasty. and now Houston has him. Yeah. So he was amazing. Six games in the postseason, Justin Verlner went six games,

36.2 innings pitch, 2.2.1 ERA. They went 5 in one in his starts in the playoffs. They don't win that World Series without him. I can say that firmly. They also tried out Francisco Liriano. He did not work out. And Cameron, Mabin, they picked up off waivers as well. No one else wanted him.

And he was a defensive replacement that played in a lot of games, defensive replacement, but still, they picked him up, and he played a part. The 2016 Cubs was wild. Their bullpen was so bad that from June 20th, they scratched and clawed and just picked up relievers left and right. They picked up Mike Montgomery, who actually helped them a lot in the regular season. He came out of the pen, he started games, 17 games, 282 ERA in the regular season.

He appeared in 11 games in the postseason and only lost or furthered the lead in three of them. So in, what is that, eight games, he did his job in the postseason. There's not that many games. He's almost pitching all of them. Araldus Chapman's the biggest one here. But there was other guys. There was like Joel Peralta, not Joe Peralta. There was some other that I didn't write down their names. They tried. They made like one or two appearances and they kicked him to the curb. They finally got their dude in Aralda's Chapman. And they, I mean, this was the Magic's, Magic Cubs year. And they finally hit their tipping point because you're right. We did leave a couple names out that you'd remember as Journeyman.

reliever that the Cubs were like, hey, if we could get a couple good months out of you, that'd be huge for us. They finally caved, and Araldis Chapman was available because the Yankees were out of it that year, one of the few years they were, and they got Glaver Torres out of that. And now we're reaping the benefits, but the Cubs, the Cubs hand was kind of forced being the Chicago Cubs and what their bullpen had done that year. But I mean, I think, I mean, in these teams, in these three teams alone, there's now been a, World Series MVP, Justin Verlander, who I just said changed the course of baseball, and Eraldus Chapman, who at the time was as dominant as closer there was in the sport.

In the regular season, Chapman appeared in 24 games after the trade. He blew one game. In the postseason, he appeared in 13 games. Madden abused him. He blew two. One was game seven, so a lot of people think, like, oh, he sucked. He's pretty good. He pitched a lot.

In situations he had never pitched. Joe Smith was another guy. He had 12 scoreless innings in the regular season, Jake, and didn't make the postseason roster. Stuff, that postseason crunch. All right, here we go. 2015 Royals. They added Johnny Quato, Ben Zobrist, and Johnny Goams.

Johnny Goams did nothing and didn't appear in the postseason. But at that point, he was like a lucky charm because he had been on so many World Series teams in a row, Red Sox Giants, whatever, all that. Quato, 13 games started, and the team went 4-9. He had a 4-7-6 ERA. He did start for playoff games, though. Two good, one bad, and then one great playoff game in the World Series. A complete game, one earned run.

That's what gets remembered. So that's huge. Ben Zobrist World Series MVP in the postseason. He had a 880 OPS 365 on base percentage. They traded for him. He becomes the World Series MVP. So now we've got the list of people now. If you're talking about Steve Pierce, Justin Verlander,

Or Aldous Chapman, Ben Zobras. Those guys weren't on the team at the deadline or at the break. Two World Series MVP's in arguably one of the most dominant starting pitchers and one of the most dominant relievers there's ever been. Yeah. 2014 Giants, this one was interesting. Jake Peavy. That was their only move, Jake.

They traded for Jake Peavy. And in 12 starts after the trade, he went 8 and 4, or the team went 8 and 4 in his start. with a 217 ERA. He was bad in the World Series, though, like really bad in the World Series. They lost both his starts, so they won the World Series despite his starts. But I was like,

well, that doesn't make sense. They had to add more people. They called up Joe Panic, who became their second baseman and cog in their lineup. And Belt came off the DL. He was riddled with injuries that year. In September, he finally got healthy.

He hit safely in all seven games in the World Series. Yeah, I guess in this. This is where you and I start to veer a little differently because for me, the trade deadline is showing your team that you want to win. It's your GM going out and adding a player to improve your team. That's a big thing without the team within the team, excuse me. And then Jake Peavy, I know, I guess the world, what happens in the postseason is kind of coin flippish for me. Like we've seen guys like Alex Rodriguez have a bad postseason. Like it's a seven game set.

Any player in baseball can have a bad seven games. And so that's why, like, I still count Jake Pevia's like a huge trade deadline acquisition. He went eight and four, two one seven ERA. The team went eight and four. In his games, excuse me, which still. That's better. That's really good. Yeah.

And his 217 ERA is still his. So I still think, like, obviously, like, I mean, Steve Pierce winning the World Series MVP. I mean, that is what it is forever and good for him. But, I mean, Jake Peavy's a guy who won a Cy Young. He was off of his Cy Young pace at this point. But he came in and he was a huge factor for him. So, I mean, in my head, it still counts just as much as everything else. Because it changes the way your whole season develops.

It changes who else is throwing innings. It changes the way your bullpen works. it changes everything. Yeah. And the point I would make here is that even though they didn't trade for Joe Panic or belt, they didn't have them at the break. If they didn't think they could call them up or that they were going to be healthy, they would have made a trade for those positions, most likely.

The 2013 Red Sox, they traded for Jake Peavy as well, and he was not really good for them. He was bad in the CS in the World Series. They traded for Quentin Berry as a defensive replacement, and he made the roster in every postseason series. That's kind of my, and then they called up Zander Bogarts and Brandon Workman, who were clutch for them.

Zander Bogartz was a young dude. He had an 893 OPS in the postseason. He had 44 at Bats in the regular season, Jake, and 27 in the postseason. He wasn't even like, he was a September call-up that became a true cock in their post-season run. Workman had eight, 8.2 scoreless innings.

And that was that. The next one, and this is the last one I do, because I know I've done a lot of info now. The 2012 Giants, Marco Scuderow, they traded for him in 61 games post-trade. He had an 859 OPS and a 385 on base percentage. In the postseason, 377 on base percentage, 767 OPS in 16 games.

He was kind of like the dude, not the dude, but he was a part of that world's. series win, Marco Scuderow. So every team has no team has just sat still in the last couple years, sat still at the break and said, now we're rolling with what we have and won the World Series. Every World Series team has made additions or brought someone up. The 2009 Yankees are the biggest team that didn't do anything, really. And they also spent the most money in free agency ever, I believe, before that. So. But defensive replacement is my biggest thing. We got Quentin Berry, who made postseason starts.

We had, who else was there? There was Chris Coglin. He became a defense replacement for the Cubs. Cameron, Maibin, Ian Kinsler. So good teams get defensive replacements. The Yankees went out and did it with Etchervaria, but they didn't win last year. But that's the thing.

I think you could also say, I mean, there might be some teams that already have that guy, like the teams that haven't traded for defensive replacements on this list, you might already have your guy that's your speeds or defense guy. Turn score. Terence score. Shout out. So yeah, if that's what you guys wanted on the first episode, a little Marco Scootero talk, we got it. And yeah, if you're about, if you got your Twitter fingers out right now and you're about to say, there's no way our team makes the World Series

without making a move, well, every team makes moves. Every team will make a move. So, so there you go. That's our big conversation for today. Now we're going to get into some fun stuff to recap the series. A couple segments to recap the series of that were. First one, we got Jake's standout performance. Floor is yours, Jake. These three games after the break, who impressed you? I wanted you to make a nice song out of it or something. Jake's standout performance.

All right, I lied. I didn't want that. Jim, I went with Josh Donaldson, the bringer of rain, as everyone calls him. Hey, bringer of rain. Hey, but now about him, the bringer of rain. Here's your coffee bringer of rain. Good luck out there. Josh Donaldson and my Atlanta Braves, man. They've still got the lead in the ALEs.

In a three-game set, he had six runs, three home runs, six RBIs. One of those games was a two home run for RBI game without those. They wouldn't have won that game. I know that's a hot take. Josh Donaldson, a guy that can get hot and a hard. hurry. Hot in a hurry. In Atlanta, that's pretty easy to do.

Oh, yeah. You could start sweating pretty good down there. Especially dog days. Woo! Start swimming real good. August in Atlanta? Sounds like hell. He plays an important role in this team.

Does he? He does, Jim. He splits up Freddie Freeman and Nick Marcakechus, your guy. Greek Goda walks part two. And Josh Downson's just having a really good, year. He's got 21 home runs on the season now, on pace to land in the 30s, which he was at a couple years ago. And I don't know, Josh Donaldson has had a lot of injuries. There were some people that didn't know he got the one year big money. People were scared to give him long term,

because they don't know if his body was going to hold up anymore. So, and I just think it was a big, the nationals are coming. The nationals and Phillies are coming for the Braves. the nationals have the pitching and they've kind of turned their season around quietly. The nationals were sellers three weeks ago, and now people are on the nationals training. Guess what? If they make the playoffs, even if they make the wild card game, sure's her. Yeah, the nationals are, they should, I mean. And if they do, then Strasbourg's having a good year, and Corbyn is too.

So the nationals are a serious what to watch for. And the Phillies, I mean, Harper had a bad first half. half, are they going to get it going? So I think it was important for the Braves to come out and start the second half with a winning series to show, because when they start bleeding, those other teams are looking for them. So a little love for, hey, bring her of rain. Bring me some rain, please. That's why they brought them to Atlanta to cool off.

Yeah, in the summer. Wow. Fetch me some rain. Fitch me, my win. Jimmy, who's your standout performance? My standout performance is a guy named Philip Irvin. Pierve. Peerve. You ever heard of him?

Perv. You ever heard of Philip Irvin? Yeah. Philip Irvin. First round pick for the Reds back in 2013, 27th overall. Played the last two years. Not a lot. But he's having a good season right now, Jake.

Outfielder, pinch hitter. He's having a good year right now. 356 batting average 415 on base percentage. Not the most at bats because I think he missed all of May. and April. Oh, my God. Yeah, he's overslept. It's his birthday.

Today is his birthday? Yeah. Well, that's why he's my standout performance. Wow. He went on July 12th. He went six for six, Jake. Yeah. One double, one triple, three RBIs, one run scored, and one stolen base.

Now here, as was in Cors, I believe. Yeah. And it was a wild game. It was like a 16-and-something. There was a couple of cores effect game, 45 runs in the final two. But here's what's impressive. He had never had more than three hits in a game in the MLB,

and he only had three hits once in 2017. Only no other player has had six hits in a game this season. In 2018, only one player did it, Springer. In 2017, only one player did it, Rendon. So this is a cool feat. Not a lot of people have six hits in a game. He went six for six. Here's what's even more impressive in my mind.

Okay. His first hit single. His next hit, triple. His next hit double. Home run away from the cycle in a slop fest game. That's like 16 to 9 final score or whatever. You'd expect he's just swinging for the fences every time get the cycle. He has one home run this season, not his game.

You know what he does? He goes, single, single. Slapping around, man. You know what's more impressive than a cycle going six for six. happens less. Yeah, we'd like to have that home run, though. Yeah, good for Phil Irvin. You wonder what he's thinking, former first round pick.

He's probably wondering when his mom's going to text him for his birthday. He's probably hoping a couple of these guys get traded so he could get some run because he's 27 today. So late, late blooming. Ooh, and Jim, I've got good news. Sometimes we run into some bad Twitter handles and stuff on this show. Okay. Mr. Magic Irvin.

Mr. Magic Irvin. That's pretty good. It's a little stealing. It's a little stealing, but... Magic is so well known that I think you can spin off that. So I like it. Okay.

It's better than Craig Bigeo, or Cabin Bigeos doing it big Gio. Doing it big Gio time. That's tough, Kevin. Sorry for throwing you under the bus because it probably won't be the last time Cab Daddy. Good for Phil. Good for Phil. Jim, now I think it's time your favorite segment of the show.

Slump watch. Slump watch. Damn, got me. Yeah, lasted longer. Who do you got on Slump Watch, Jim? I got Dwight Smith Jr. from our favorite Baltimore Orioles. Yourt. Baltimore Orioles. Dwight Smith Jr., one of the worst arms I've seen in left field to date.

Yeah. We're not talking about his arm, Jake. We're talking about the thing that he holds. It's an extension of his arm. It's the bat. The bat. It's been brutal. He has zero hits in his last 26 plate appearances.

That's not good. That's about as high as you can count. It's not good. Zero hits. He's got two walks. Good for you. You know what? We need to shame those pitchers.

Can you bring that up? Can you find me the two pitchers that have walked Dwight Smith? No. No, I'm not doing that. It's a friendly show. No, those pitchers need to get. Except for Cavend Bish. Those pitchers need to get shamed.

And I'll shame them eventually throughout the show. Oh, for his last, oh, for his last 24, no hits last 26 played appearances. I dive deeper, Jake. Okay. Three hits in his last 30, in his last 43 played appearances. Yeah. And in his last 43 played appearances, still only those two walks. So those pitchers, I'm coming for you.

Yeah. Once I quit reading these stats, I'm going to go. 10 strikeouts in his last 40-plate appearances. An 0-79 average in his last 43 played appearances hasn't gotten a hit with the All-Star break now, splitting this up. He hasn't got a hit in over a week. And he's been playing every day.

So Dwight Smith, Jr., you are officially on my slump watch. And Jim, before you go hunt down those pitchers, give me your next one because I can build off of it while you hunt down those two pictures. I hope it's the same guy. Oh, my God. I didn't even think of that. Oh, my God.

All right. The next, my next slump watch is, and this one's a little tongue and cheek, a little more fun. Pete Alonzo, the home run derby champ, Mr. Serious Pete, one hit this series coming after the break. Now, did he get jinxed? Because he got 10 at bats, Jake. Yeah. One hit, 7Ks. Yeah.

Wow. Got that home run swing. So as you go hunt down these pitchers that walk Dwight Smith Jr., Jimmy, Vlad Jr., I didn't have them on here, two for 12 since the All-Star break. So if you're one of those people that want to hunt down the home run derby, Vlad's 2 for 12, Pete's 1 for 10. I didn't have Vladdy Jr. on my slump watch, but I wanted to feed the beast on that one. My slump watch, Jim, I'll hit him quick.

Benny and the Jets, Ben Intendi, he goes 1 for 13 to start after the All-Sum. Star break. He's kind of had a rough year. He used to be one of the scariest cogs in that Red Sox lineup. Some good pitching on the Dodgers, though. Yeah, but the Sox put up a couple runs. For 13 is bad. And we've got a Dodger. Who walked Dwight Smith, Jr.? Guess who was the first walk I found?

It's a guy I don't like. Snell, I don't know. Same team. I mean, there's a lot of guys on the race. Yardbro. Yard bro, nice. The slowest pitcher in the world. Nibbles and pitches so slow.

And the other one was Aaron Sanchez. Okay. Who was walking everyone. Everybody. 20 walks and six starts. Yeah. Okay. So, okay.

Yarborough and Sanchez, you've been shamed. Yarborough, you've been shamed. All right. And my other quick hitters I had on slump watch, Joey Wendell, he went two for 14. Why he's on there is against the Orioles and they put up big runs. So that's tough. Didn't get invited to the point.

When all your teammates. are filling up the stat sheet. A couple of those teammates we're going to talk about later. That's a tough look for Joey Wendell. Corey Seeger, who was in that Red Sox series, he went 0 for 11, no walks. That's a tough look. Yeah, his brother texted him and was like,

yo, yikes, dude, what's going on? Copying my stuff. We've had the Seeger bros. Both Seagers have made the slump watch, three episodes in. And then I just thought, Trey Mancini, he also went 0 for 11, no walks. So those two guys tied for the most at-bats

without getting on base, so I thought they should be mentioned. And I think we've only got one pitcher on here, Jim, if you want to go get them. Yeah, it's a light. It's a light slump watch. Jordan Zimmerman has allowed seven earned runs in his last two starts. Boston and then the Royals, 13 hits, and then eight hits. Tough to put a pitcher on the slump watch with just the series after the All-Star break.

Yeah, but it can delve a little farther than just a series. Oh, yeah. Yeah, only four strikeouts in his last two starts and 14 earned runs. Zimmerman, we're watching your next start closely. You've been warned. Now, I think, well, I was going to say we could go on to the fun stuff, but Slump Watch is pretty fun. But the positive fun stuff, Jim, dirt, nasties, and fuego.

That means on fire, baby, like Wago. And I'm going to start off with my guy who was actually my standout performance last week. Yule Gueriel, I'm just going to do it quick because he's kept it rolling. It's now eight homers in nine games, two more homers from the four games this weekend. Jim, in 15 games, his OPS went from 681, so a below league average player to 8-11, so an above-league average player. So Yulee Gureel killing it. And I've, I mean, I've got a couple I want to rip, Jim, but I'll mention my raise.

Rip them. I'll mention my rookie raise. Mike Brousseau and Nate Lau, or low. Which one's low and which one's Lao? I think Nate Lowe. Don't know. Brandon Lowe on the race. So one of our race fans.

Official answer, I'm not sure. Two rookie rays, they each had three homers each, and they also get the Orioles asterisk on it because they were facing the Orioles. But they're just rubbing it in Joey Wendell's face. So that sucks for him. AJ Pollock, he comes back for the Dodgers. That could be a huge piece for him. He's really good when he's healthy.

He had the big hit and extras. And he's a Connecticut guy, Jim. I'll let you go. What do you like on there? Well, I'm trying to get some... Another one guy you like. No, well, I'm trying to get some love for guys that you hate. Okay.

And you've always hated Adam Frazier from the Pittsburgh Pirates. Mentioned him last week as May and Fuego. You just always hated him. I think he had a bad weekend. Did he? Yeah. Well, his last stats are still good. Yeah, they're still dirty.

I know. He's 500 and last... He was 600 last week. Yeah. Well, he's still good. Watch out for him. Tell the people about Lance Lynn a little bit. Lance Lynn,

is such a joy to watch. He only throws fastballs. He's got machismo and bravado. He's a guy that speaks to your heart. He grabs his nuts after every pitch, just gross and sweaty. He says he wears his hoodies on days he doesn't start so that when he's on the mound,

he feels not as hot. So he just a sweat, just a gross sweatball in the dugout for five days. There's four days. Then he goes on the mound. He's like, wow, this is nice. Yeah, this is a relief. I was fucking sweating.

It's actually genius. Yeah, smart. Relieved to be on the mound. Well, he comes out after the break versus the Astros, 11Ks. You said he's throwing like 90, whatever. Dude, 98. Yeah, 98. This is a testament to don't sign pitchers late.

Alex Cobb and Lance Lynn in 2018 did not get full spring trainings. They didn't have their muscles fully built up and all that. and they had down years. Lance Lynn, when he's right, it's so weird to watch. It's fun. Dude, just throwing fastballs all over the place. Fastballs just at you. Yeah.

So I thought that was a fun start. And it was kind of a big stage for baseball because it was a Thursday after July, after the All-Star break. Only one game was happening. It was the Rangers versus the Astros for the casual fan that tuned in, probably thinking like, oh, Astros are going to kick the Rangers' ass. And then Lance Lynn, and then like they're in Lance Lynn's old. and just flipped the whole casual fan.

Lance Lynn's pitched for Texas? How many people said that on Thursday night? I think the final count. Get the final count for me. 899. 899. Wow. One away.

This guy started saying, and he's like, Lance, I knew that. Oh, yeah, I knew. That would have got to 900.

Yeah, he's having a really good year. That was a bit of that. Wasn't he second in pitcher war? That was a bit upsetting. And then, yeah, I just listed a bunch of names. Trout had a nice weekend.

The Skag's Homer, we talked about, Mani Machado. He has another thing. three home run weekend. Can we talk about Trout real quick? Yeah. Did you see the MLB

video they made for him? No. Dude, they figured out how to market Mike Trout. I'm going to congratulate Emily's marketing team. Yeah. I'm going to play the audio. Okay.

I don't know if the video will be able to see it, but listen to this. They figured out how to market Mike Trout. It's awesome. I was born to play baseball. But where I'm from, we never take anything for granted. I was raised to value hard work. And to practice respect.

I still call my parents before every game. And this guy has trained me since high school. I grew up playing other sports, and I still make time for the things I love. My friends are a source of inspiration, and my dad is still my hero. Maybe I'm not what everyone wants me to be, but I'm exactly who I've always been. I don't play for the fame, the money, or the endorsements. I'm still that same old kid With a big dream

And a decent swing Some say I'm the best to play the game Me I just want to play It's cool Nice kind of Batman vibe They're kind of like How do we market Mike Trout

He's not marketable That's the marketing Let's talk about Yeah Let's talk about that he can play baseball Oh Jimmy's phone is in a Mike Trout cycle now No that's good I was proud of him

I was like oh that's good if you're not watching, if you don't know baseball, you'd be intrigued. You're like, they say that guy's the best ever. Yeah. That guy? How come I haven't heard of them? How come I've never heard of them? Oh, because I'm not a weather fan.

I miss the Mike Trout weather segment. I love that. I mean, Mike Trout is easy to like, but I actually liked that video. Yeah. No, Trout's starting to get there. Trout, it's kind of interesting. Ten years of being the best ever, starting to get there. And it's nuts that it has to be that way.

But, like, at All Star Weekend, there was definitely, like, better Mike Trout vibes. Like they, even in their intro for the All-Star game, they were talking about your favorite player to watch. And like, 75% of the guys were like Mike Trout because he's probably the best to ever do it. So that's good. I got Bogart's on there. We mentioned him with the Red Sox call up in 2013. He had a big weekend. And then just my quick pitcher is Felix Pena.

He was the no hit through seven of the Angels no hitter. Brad Keller, only starting pitcher to go eight innings, one earn run. Soraka and Wainwright in the NL go seven scoreless. I don't know how old Wainwright is, but for the last five years, I've been like, Wayne Wright's still around. He's been on the Cardinals for the past 35 seasons, which is impressive. It's very impressive. It's coming up on the record.

Yeah, wow. Next up, next segment, Who got mad? Who got mad? Who got mad today? Got me again. You're good. Yeah, always won a little longer than you. Who got mad, Jim?

Joey Votto got mad because the umpire extended the strikes. zone struck him out on a pitch that's outside in a 16 to nine game the reds were winning in the ninth inning ump definitely was like yo this game's been brutal and long a lot of offense i need to open the zone up vado's a guy you can't do that he knows the zone right so he was probably like ump i don't care what the score of the inning is that's not a strike ump was like yo but jolly is a ninth you guys are up seven let's get a move on he got tossed the other one was and this was a user or listener submission or breakdown fan submission, Brian Anderson got rung up on an outside pitch as well.

It was close, but it was outside. And he just like stomped on the ground, kind of like a temper tantrum. Good stomp. He gave the yell away from the umpire. But he was just yelling, no, no, and jumping up and down. Honestly, like a two-year-old. A little tantrum.

Yeah, I've been there. Been there. He got mad, though. Been there. He got mad. That's basically it. There wasn't that much. Sometimes this segment won't even make it.

barely made it today. First show, so we wanted to introduce it. If you've got a player on your team who got mad, reach out to us. Joey Votto's contract is an albatross, and I'm not a Votto guy. Blah, blah, blah. Joey Votto's awesome.

Not a fan. Big Votto fan over here. Not a fan. Walk off watch. Walk off watch. Walk off watch. Walk off launch. Texas walked off Houston.

We said that. Danny Santana with an RBI single versus Osuna. Did you write this? Franco Homer? Is that a walk-off? I wrote the Franco-Homer. Yeah, I know we are very finite on our walk-offs. It has to be a walk-off.

And it was a walk-off. It was yesterday. Okay. And then the A's had a wild walk-off that I wanted to do a breakdown of is runner on second, ball too short. They threw it away, and then they have so much foul territory that the ball was just rolling around forever and the runner ran from second to home. I think it was,

who's the guy whose name starts, Pinder. I think it was Chad Pinder. I think he made it from second to home. Kind of a weird feeling because you want to walk off on a home run or like, you know, something good. And it's like they just threw the ball around. I don't know. I kind of disagreed with you because what's one of the more famous Yankees Mets plays

in the past, what is it, 10 years, 15 years? The dropped ball, but that's so embarrassing. But that's such a fun celebration because that's literally. literally like jaws of defeat and now you're on the field. You're dancing on their graves. It's a different kind of celebration. There needs to be animosity because this one, the A's celebration was kind of muted, mundane. I thought they were celebrating pretty good.

Yeah, but I'm an expert. They were having a young guy's celebration. I don't know. It was a young guy's tempered celebration. It was tempered, yeah. But it was still young guy celebrating. They walked off, though. All right, next up, these are quick ones.

running through him. Call up watch. If there's ever a big debut, we're going to try and be all over it. Jake, who do you got? Jim, we had a, we had a former top prospect, get the call. Um, Bubba Starling. Uh, if you're a, if you're a MLB draft person, you remember this name. He was the fifth overall pick by Kansas City out of high school. Um, I had the draft in front of me. But I'll tell you the guys who got drafted just after him, Jim. him. Anthony Rondone, Francisco Lundor, Francisco, Javi Baez,

George Springer. And I didn't go down the list any further because I thought that was getting mean. But, hey, that's a, if you think the draft doesn't matter. But hey, Bubba Starling gets the call 26 years old. And he got his first hit in his RBI. He's playing center field. So good for him.

Yeah, important note here. And this comes from the beer nerd on Reddit. Yes. With the call-up of Bubba Starling, MLB has broken a 13-year drought of Bubba's. The last Bubba was Bubba Crosby in 2006. So about time a Bubba came back into the MLB's life. Yeah, so that's huge for the sport.

Andres Munoz, Jimmy, gets called for the Padres, 20 years old. He was an amateur free agent, signed out of Mexico. Two games, 2.1 inning, zero earned runs. So welcome to the big. kid. Ian Gibbaugh. Do you think you say that name differently, Jim? Ian Gabout. Gabout. He's a big boy. 250 pounds. We like that. 25 years old, 11th round pick by the raise. One game, two-inning pitch, tour and run. Hey, doesn't matter, dude, you got called up to the major leagues. Congrats. And Luis Escobar, 23 years old,

amateur free agent out of Columbia for Pittsburgh. Two-innings pitch, four hits, but no Orrin runs, Jim. No iron runs. He's incredible. Escape artist. Congrats, guys. Congratulations. All right, award.

It's time, Jake. We're going to give out an award each. Awards. I'm going to give out my award. Those are the 2011 MLB draft. Bubba Starling's been in the minor leagues for eight years. Doing, doing, giving it hell. Playing baseball.

Yeah. Pretty nice. All right. What's your first award, Jim? We have a new king. The new king. We have a new king. King Gray.

King Gray. King Gray. I bow to you. Do you know who gets this award? I'm assuming you're giving it to John because you gave it to Sunny last time. I gave Sonny won King Grey last time. I don't think you annoyeded him the King, but you talked about him. You haven't talked about John yet.

You've talked about Sonny. Well, Sonny Gray is the King Grey. He's the new King Grey, okay? Sonny Gray and John Gray faced off the other day, Jake. Yeah. The Battle of the Green. Gray's. And check this out. Sunny Gray, seven innings pitched five hits. John Gray, seven innings pitched four hits. One earned run for Sunny. Two earned runs for John. Just barely got beat by Sunny. Sunny wins the King Grey. Challenge. Sunny had nine strikeouts and three walks. John had six strikeouts. Zero walks. So I think that's actually a tie in my book. tie in my book

and 98 pitches for John 103 for Sunny pretty similar lines it was a great King Grey battle I can't wait for the next one but Sunny does win the King Grey Award this week yeah I like that Jim and I I wish more people would reach out to me on Twitter when the greys are facing off

because that's something I need to know live Gandalf the Grey All right, Jim, nice award. I think I'm going to do one award this week. And I'm going to do the newspaper award. Wow. You've been dying to give this out. Been dying to give out the newspaper award.

Dying. Goes to your mailman. There's actually two winners. Okay. But you just opened up with you're just going to give one award out. One award to two people. Yeah, that's fine. You talked about the Gray Brothers.

for hours, even though they're not pro-ers. So they have to say, like, we won an award together. Yeah, yeah, and they will. Okay. And they will. Okay. Jim, I'm going to Daniel Murphy. He's been hot. And Jose Altovae. Both hot. One, so weird. One, not weird. Extra, extra read all about it, Jim, because these guys are hitting for extra base hits. Daniel Murphy over the weekend, three doubles, two homers. Colorado would love a huge second half from Daniel Murphy. He was kind of meh, the first half. If he can get a little of that course field,

and when Daniel Murphy gets hot, he's got to get hot. Well, he needs to cut his hair because he's weird and everyone else. He's a guy that gets hot. He looks like the boyfriend from Roseanne right now, and no one likes it. Let that hair ride Demerf. And Jose Altovae, he had four extra base hits over the three games he played in, or the last three games he played in. two doubles, two home runs, six RBIs.

Al-Tuvia got hurt in the first half for a while. And I think if- It was his heart, right? Broke-breakup or something like that? Broke and heart, I think. And if Al-Tuve's back for those strows, man, I mean, I mentioned before the Verlander effect of how it changed baseball history.

Jose Al-Tuve was, the Astros have had a lot of injuries themselves, Altouva Springer. If Al-Tuve gets it going and has, has an Altova type second half. Houston hot take will make the playoffs. Okay. All right.

We have one final segment. This episode ran a little longer than usual. We had a big chunk of the World Series editions, and we also did a little longer of an intro than usual. We do have one more segment, and if you're still listening, we thank you so much because this is going to be, I think, our most fun segment. It's called Elevator Talk.

Elevator Talk. We have a wheel on the wheel. is all 30 teams. We are going to spin the wheel. Whatever team it lands on, we do get some omissions because we've talked about some. We will talk about some teams in the regular show. We'll talk about them too much. But whatever team it lands on, we will spend two minutes going to research, finding out what you need to know in case you're stuck in an elevator with a fan of that team.

And you want to be able to have some casual conversation being informed. Are you ready, Jake? Yeah, let's do it. Here we go. The wheel is spinning. Always nervous. Spinning and we are landing on the Houston Astros. We just kind of segued into it, didn't we?

Wow, perfect. Good job, the wheel. Houston Astros won the World Series in 2017. They got... You talk about that for sure. You can talk about that. You think we're going to run it back this year? Yep.

They lost in the ALCS to Boston. They are a playoff team. They're one of the favorites right. now it's if you're if you see an astros hat in the elevator you go wow it's it's got to be this it's got to be this year huh yep you got to drop one of those for sure al tuve all the stuff i just said about him he was hurt hopefully he has a big second half for you right yeah yeah yep yep yep so they uh they did have for them a rough month of june they were 15 and 13 in june that's not the best stay away from june stay away from june say like gurriel you pick it up gurriel's

Dale's been going nuts. If you want to talk about young guys, who's at Jordan? Jordan. Strong, dude. How strong is Jordan? How strong is Jordan? What do you think he benches? Be real with me.

290. I'm not asking you. I'm just saying for the elevator. Oh, for the elevator. Not 290. His arms are too long. He's a baseball player. No, it just wants.

That's his max one time. And then I think, oh, no, know what you're, when you're slapping ass and getting out of the elevator? How do you guys get off an elevator, by the way? Usually crawl. I think you just. I'm so afraid. You just say, hey, seven games set. It's going to be tough for them to beat.

We're going to have Verlander three times, Garrett Cole two times. It's going to be tough. Yeah. That's your slap ass on the exit. Who's their third? That's the picture. I've got everyone in the elevator wearing baseball pants, so it's cool.

If you wanted it, if you're like run into a real Astros fan, a deeper question would be like, who do you think our number three is right now? You think Wade Miley's real? Because it's Verlander and Cole. And then, I mean, they got Framber. He's not doing much. They got Colin McHugh. He's not doing much right now.

It's looking like Wade Miley as well. Looking like Wade Miley. So, yeah, if you run into national... Who's our third right now in the playoffs? Erlander and Cole, they got it. You think Miley could hold up in the playoffs? They're looking to trade for a third? Is that what is on their mind?

You know, maybe. Tony Kemp's short. He is. He is, he is, he is, he is. They needed someone that can have a conversation with El Tuve at eye level. That's why they brought Tony. And that Brantley signing. worked out. I'd say that too. You can say that. All right. Okay. Enjoy your day. Enjoy your day. Bye.

Talking Astros. Thanks for riding the elevator with us and making me talk to you about baseball. Talking Astros, that was that. This was talking baseball. First episode. If you listen to it on YouTube and watch the show, we appreciate it. If you're a Patreon and you tuned in and out live, we appreciate that. In the future, if you want to be live, we will probably have time to answer some questions from the chat. If you go, to patreon.com slash john boy media you will find yourself there two dollars a month supports gets you a live access and a chance to win some jerseys and really just supports everything we're doing and we appreciate that all right i think that's it jake any last words big series coming up the only one i know and because it's close to my heart is four games versus the yankees and rays and both team the yankees can kind of put away the rays or the rays can force their way into a scary situation for Yankees fans. Big series for NL East teams, NL Central teams, and the Texas Rangers to see if they're going to sell. Yeah, the Reds, Pirates, and Rangers. There are

any other good, like, where are the Dodgers going now? The years. I should have planned this if we want to do it. Dodgers, Phillies, that could be fun, but there's no divisional stuff. Yeah. Yeah. We're out. Thank you guys for listening. see you later