Talkin' Baseball (MLB Podcast) - 314 | New York Yankees | Profile & Projection

Episode Date: March 27, 2021

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Starting point is 00:00:00 It's time for another team profile and projection here on talking baseball. And we are doing the New York Yankees voted in third place by our audience, which is a lot of Yankees fans probably. But they probably, they're here on like other rankings as well that other publications are doing. Last year they had a 33 and 27 record, which is on pace for 80. wins. The entire team was hurt until the postseason where they got eliminated in game five to the Tampa Bay race. Jake, who did they lose and who did they add this offseason? Your American League favorite New York Yankees, BBD and Trevor Ploose Yankees, they lost some
Starting point is 00:01:10 friends of the family. James Paxton, the Big Maple, Masahiro, Tanaka, Jay Hap. There's some starting pitchers right there. How about Adavino and Canely out of the pen? Those guys were weapons for them, went right. Jonathan Holder, My High, Heller. Eric Krats, the King of Baseball. They are out. Who came to the Big Apple?
Starting point is 00:01:34 Jameson Tyone in the Pirates trade, friend of the family. Corey Klouber, the Kluba. He's going to be talked about a lot this episode. Darren O'Day and Justin Wilson A couple veterans for the pen And then there's kind of a battle for the Yanks bench Jay Bruce Derek Dietrich A couple bodies
Starting point is 00:01:54 A couple bodies you're familiar with trying to make the Yanks But Trevor Oh Trevor this lineup This lineup my guy We just talked about the Braves We were recording the Braves earlier I said this is probably my favorite lineup I've seen so far Now I'm looking at the Yankees lineup
Starting point is 00:02:14 It's probably my favorite line of I've seen so far. If everything goes right and they actually have people on the field, that is the caveat we got to put out here with these Yanks. And you guys know that better than anybody being Yanks fans. But at Ketcher, maybe we thought we would have had a controversy here, but it seems like so far, Gary is going to be our guy. I did fix him at the beginning of spring training. It looks like the mechanics are still there.
Starting point is 00:02:40 It could just be a little spring training idas. He's ready for the lights to come on. but he will be catching Garrett Cole opening day. That is a fact. First base, Luke Voight, the major league leader in home runs in 2020, came out of nowhere. I was on record of saying they should have traded them last year, but now I'm on the Luke Voight train, baby.
Starting point is 00:03:00 I'm right. It's a big train, by the way. Second base, they brought back our guy, DJ LaMayhew. All he does is hit and do everything the right way. Gotta love him. Six years, 90 million. They dished out to him. At shortstop, we got Glaver.
Starting point is 00:03:17 Torres, third base, your guy's favorite. Jake's favorite third baseman in the league, G.O. Urchella. Left field, Clint Frazier, or Brett Gardner, depending on the day, but mostly Clint, centerfield, Aaron Hicks, right field, Aaron, Judge, D.H. John Carlo, formerly known as Michael Stanton. It's a hell of a lineup, Jim. when everybody's on the field and right, pitchers are scared of this lineup.
Starting point is 00:03:47 So I love it. Now I want to hear all about that pitching. I think this is where... Timit expectation. The pitching is very interesting because no pitcher has pitched more than one full season as a Yankee. If that.
Starting point is 00:04:01 Garrett Cole, they brought him over last year. He is the $324 million man. 284 ERA last year in the short season. He'll be the ace of the staff. Then they're going Corey Klobara on you. They got him for $11 million, one year deal. Then Jameson Tyone, they traded for him. They gave him for two years, $2 million.
Starting point is 00:04:26 Double Tommy John guy. They're going to go Jordan Montgomery in the four spot and Domingo Hermon in the five. Those guys could rotate. Could be Domingo four and Monty five. You have Davey probably most likely, starting in AAA or the alternate site. And you have Louis Severino returning from Tommy John halfway through the season.
Starting point is 00:04:49 And then there's some other death pieces that no one cares about. O'Roldish, I do, but non-Yagish fans. Roldish Chapman is the closer. Zach Britton is actually out for the first half of the season, but he will be there for the second half in the postseason. Chad Green is in the bullpen. Darren O'Day is there. Justin Wilson is getting an MRI as we speak.
Starting point is 00:05:08 and he's probably going to be out for the first start of the season. And then it's a hodgepodge of relievers that if you're not a Yankees fan, you don't need to know. So the rotation is the big question, Mark. It's a rotation and health. And with the rotation, it's also health. The lineups, in my opinion, Trev, I think in a lot of people's opinions, if the lineup is healthy, which is like a very big if, because the Yankees have been the most injured team the last two seasons,
Starting point is 00:05:36 I think they broke the record in 19 and the next. literally everyone got hurt and they just said wait till the postseason. If the lineup's healthy, I think we can all agree that it'll produce. You know, some guys might have off weeks while other guys carry it. That's kind of the nature of the beast with a nine-man lineup. But it will produce. With the rotation, if it's healthy, which is a big, big, big, big, big, big, if you still no guarantee that it's going to produce if healthy. So the rotation is colon the question marks.
Starting point is 00:06:08 I mean, I'm as skeptical as one can be about Kluber. And Jake and I have done a lot of conversations, a lot of full episodes over on talking Yanks about that. I'm a little higher on Tyone, and that's very biased because I like him a lot and he likes us. I want to talk you off of that a little bit, Jim, because you mentioned if they're healthy. Health is the big question mark.
Starting point is 00:06:30 Jameson, Tyone, you can believe in him as a pitcher. Guy was a top pick. I mean, we don't know what. is double Tommy. Career 3670. We're saying with health. No, but I'm saying he throws from a different arm slot. He throws from a different pitch mix. I mean, he's not the same guy that did those numbers.
Starting point is 00:06:47 He's a completely different looking, feeling, throwing pitcher. Yeah, I mean, he's still the 6'5-230-pound bad boy. I think you can believe in his pitching ability. The health is the question for him there. And then, yeah, Kluber, I mean, Trev, I kick it to you and all the Kluber stuff, because when this initially happened, you had some great analysis. Watch out for the porch because he likes to kind of peg that outside corner to Ritees. That'll be something to watch for.
Starting point is 00:07:15 And, you know, this spring he hasn't been overly the top impressive, but this is a big bet by the Yankees. He's a Cressy guy. Cressy's the Yankees trainer. A one year, $11 million deal to replace essentially Tanaka, a guy that was beloved in Yankee land. So he's, I mean, that's the one that's circled in Red Pen. Tyone, you keep an eye on it,
Starting point is 00:07:37 but if he's out there thrown, I think you can believe in that guy. Yeah, I think they need... Cluber has to be above average for them to be where they need to be this season. And as we're doing this, our guy, Enosar, has put out a tweet that's getting ratioed right now.
Starting point is 00:07:56 What do you say? It says, Cory Cluber doesn't look that good. That's the first sentence. Never really had a great fastball. Now he's sitting 90, mouse held up for 92. His vaunted command doesn't seem all the way back either.
Starting point is 00:08:08 Love is breaking ball and he's had a great career, of course, but this isn't anything close to vintage. And he's getting killed by Yankee fans probably mostly. Why? He's right. Because he is right. But I think what they are saying, and I will go at Eno a little bit because we're boys and we can do that.
Starting point is 00:08:26 I don't think he has to be vintage Kluber, Cy Young Klubber. I don't think the Yankees are counting on him to be that guy. But like I referenced when they made him, this signing. I don't think he needs elite Velo. He's never really had elite Velo. So he just needs the command to come back.
Starting point is 00:08:43 If the command is there, his pitches are working. His command is there. That's what he needs. So when you have a guy like that, you can't always rely on him to have that throughout the season. So when I think about Kluber in the arc of the season,
Starting point is 00:08:58 he's going to have some really good starts. He's going to have some bad starts, some blow-up starts, and everything else. And it's kind of the arc of most pitchers throughout his season. I look at him as being maybe a high three or a low two, which I think the Yankees will
Starting point is 00:09:14 absolutely take. When the season's done, you're going to look at his numbers and you're like, oh, that was pretty good. Hopefully he has some big starts that people really remember down the stretch or in the postseason he performs, but I think overall the numbers are going to be pretty much like
Starting point is 00:09:30 oh, okay. Low fours, high threes. That's what I'm guessing for Kluber. I think the Yankees will take that. No, they won't. That would be a very big mistake by them if that's what they get, and that's what I'm very worried about, Treve. High threes? I think you take it. Four? Well, I don't think high threes. I thought you said low force.
Starting point is 00:09:48 Well, low force high threes. I'm not going to take that for 11, 3.9. That's what I'm looking at. One year, $11 million deal in the middle of the window that the Yankees have, which is like slowly closing on them. It's a bad bet if that's the result you get. If he's not out there pitching your number two-starred. Well, 11 million is nothing for a start. starting pitcher, though.
Starting point is 00:10:05 Well, when you're fighting against the tax and they refuse to go over the tax, that's where it hits, hit you. He ate up like 50% of the room left. And this is a window. Who was it? They could have went and got besides him. They could have traded for some other pitchers.
Starting point is 00:10:19 They could have kept Tanaka. Yeah, they could have done some other things. So if he's not performing in the postseason, and this is why I'm very, very down and skeptical on the signing, excited to be wrong if I am. But, I mean, if he's not one of the top three guys, in the postseason it's it's a not good it's a it's a tough ask for a guy who's essentially missed the last two seasons and from that aspect you're right he'd have to be really special in the regular season or he'd have to really drop it in the postseason which hey corey cluber can do i mean this is a dude
Starting point is 00:10:54 he's got two sides in the bag but you're being measured on one year in baseball which is probably the toughest sport to be measured that way so it's going to be interesting to track And yeah, I mean, the Eno thing that's going on right now, I mean, he's 3.2, one run, zero earn runs. So Yankee fans are obviously going to fight that tooth and nail. And then if you want, you can go at spring training card. And everyone's going to end up being right. Eno's right. He didn't look incredible.
Starting point is 00:11:21 The Yankee fans are half right. He also kind of did his job and you could say he was battling. So I don't know, man. He's going to be one of the big things circled this year. just hope he's out there giving bullets because, man, there's egg on a lot of Yankee people's faces if he is not healthy and out there. Their head trainer, Cressy, Brian Cashman really put his neck out there on that one. So it's going to be interesting to see.
Starting point is 00:11:47 And they do have some starting pitching depth. Domingo Hermann has had a really nice spring. Interesting to see if he can bounce back to his form. You know, Davy's got potential. he showed some out there. So the Yankees are going to have some guys battling. It's going to be really interesting to see who's there come October. Like you said, Trev, at one point, that if Kluber's not there,
Starting point is 00:12:15 that really messes up the Yankees, and I disagree with that, I think without Kluber, they're kind of like the twins, where I like this rotation for a regular season rotation, because I like Domingo Hermon, and I like Jordan Montgomery. and if Tyone can go out there and twirl it and they keep him like fresh enough. Like I like that as a regular season rotation. But it's the playoffs that matter here.
Starting point is 00:12:40 And I think, you know, just like we said with the Braves, like their ceiling, their floor is the postseason. So it's who's ready there. And like we said with Cinderguard, I don't think you can count on Sevi to be a postseason stud when he's in his year coming off Tommy John. So that's where like I think the Yankees have regular season pitching.
Starting point is 00:13:01 They needed playoff pitching. So that's why they got Kluber. They can get him for the regular season. If he pitches five games, then gets hurt, then pitches five in September, then is good in the postseason. It'll be $11 million well worth it. But I'm fine with the regular season rotation
Starting point is 00:13:16 if the lineup's there. So that's just the postseason really. And we'll see. As you guys were going through the rotation, Jim, there's a ton of bodies there and a bunch of serviceable bodies. Like the depth is exactly what you want. So I agree with you on the point where I think the regular season's fine. The postseason would they want Kluber to be like a number two guy?
Starting point is 00:13:45 Absolutely, obviously, but I just don't see him returning to that. That's what I'm worried about. Kind of guy. Tione is the two and then made, like Hermann has the stuff to be a three in the post season. Reno does too. I know he's coming off of TJ, but dang, man, he's good. Can't bank on it. And that's the thing. That's going to be the story of this Yankee season. And, hey, I get it. It's peacock and we got our feathers out a little bit because not a lot of teams get to think this way. But it's who's there come October. I mean, I'd say, Jim, the only thing different when you mentioned the twins is that Garrett Cole guy.
Starting point is 00:14:20 If anyone else steps up, whether it is Tyone or Sevi's healthy or Domingo Hermann or Helmand. I mean, you know, Davy's got some hutspot to him. If someone can join Garrett, that changes the whole dynamic and outlook of the postseason. So I don't know if it's Kluber or Tyone or Sevier or whoever. You just hope it's one of them. And that's kind of, Brian Cashman didn't say it, but he basically said it. He said, you know, we had the option to bring back Tanaka or sign Kluber and trade for Tyone. And we did that because they're kind of playing the coin flip game and who's going to be there.
Starting point is 00:14:56 So that's the storyline. I feel like we need to do the lineup a little bit of lip service because those boys are tasty, fellas. Yeah, the lineup's really good. Obviously, DJ and Lemayhew's back-to-back top three MVP voting, top five MVP voting. Aaron Judge, when healthy, has done nothing but be one of the top 10 players in baseball per,
Starting point is 00:15:22 like any stat you want to pull up since 2017 when healthy. Jake had a stat the other day because people, a lot of Yankee haters, say that Judge was only good in 2017. If you take away his 2017 and just do 2018, 2019, 2020, he's still top 10 in a lot of offensive categories
Starting point is 00:15:40 and all the ones you care about. Stanton Stanton's very tricky because he's going to be a DH only. And we'll see if he can stay healthy. If he is, he's mean. Voight led the league in home runs. Glabor is at an off year last year.
Starting point is 00:15:55 So we're hoping for a bounce back there. and we're very iffy on his defense. He was good in the playoffs. It's easy to mentally prep yourself or he's going to be fine offensively. It's the defense. The defense you worry about. Clint Fraser's going to get his first chance
Starting point is 00:16:11 at starting every day in left field. Defense still something that worries me. He should be able to hit and perform. The lineup's deep and good. Their depth is actually not good. For a team that in 2019 suffered the most injuries ever, and still won 103 games due to their depth
Starting point is 00:16:29 and how many people they had and being able to pick up Cameron Mabin who went off for them and having Romine and Higgy combined to be really good as the catching position. Their depth on the bench actually isn't that impressive this year. It's going to be interesting
Starting point is 00:16:43 because they may break camp without Jay Bruce and Dietrich and then their depth is almost invisible. It just doesn't exist. Gardi deserves a shout out. He's going to be back and he's technically a bench piece right now and go check out his stats as technically the fourth outfielder,
Starting point is 00:16:59 which as Yankee fans were just waiting for injuries. You know, that's a nice option to have. You're right. You know, and people outside of Yankee land are maybe wondering where Miguel Anduhar is. I mean, he's been hurt and he hasn't played a lot of baseball. He's going to have to prove himself in the minors before he gets a chance. Mike Talkman right now is a coin flip to make of the roster, Jay Bruce. So this Yankee depth, and for those of you to don't know, we do a lot of Yankees.
Starting point is 00:17:26 Yankee stuff. We've done a PPP on each player on the Yankees. So if you want to go check that out, have a blast. And we do a deep dive even on the Bruce's Dietrichs and those guys. So it's going to be interesting to see the Yankees save themselves a little bit of salary cap to hopefully make a deadline move. It sucks that I say salary cap, Trev, because I know it's not one, but teams use it that way. And even the New York Yankees. So it's really insane. for us to think, and maybe I'm going to try to bait Trevor into hyping us up a little bit. But man, if Giancarlo Stanton and Aaron Judge are healthy, those are guys that are nuts when they're right.
Starting point is 00:18:08 Stanton's postseason. Everyone's going to be healthy, Trev. Anyway, I've decided it. Eric Cressie has him doing yoga. They stop lifting weights. Cressie God. They got a full year under Cressie. It's just a healthy season, healthy season besides Clover.
Starting point is 00:18:20 He's my one incredibly skeptical point. But as far as 162, I've... Pretty happy with this Yankee squad. It's just who's there come the postseason and how are we feel about them? Because going into the postseason last year, I said over and over again, I didn't think they had a shot to advance out of the ALCS. And they didn't even make it out of the DS. I wasn't feeling good last year about the squad.
Starting point is 00:18:47 I am hoping I feel good about this squad going into the postseason. What's this lineup going to look like, the construction of it, like the batting order? It's going to be DJ. Is something they like to... You want to know it? Do they... Does Boone stick to one or is he a rotation cut the guy? So this is where I'm hoping.
Starting point is 00:19:05 I've talked myself into them having a change of like how they operate as a team. For no reason at all. They haven't really given any signs that they will do this. Spring training, a little bit. They've been more consistent with their lineup this spring training than they've ever been in the last three seasons. Ever. And it's been something we've been hammering home. And I've asked you about.
Starting point is 00:19:26 a ton. Like, do guys like knowing where they are day and day out? And you've always told me, yes. Like, consistently knowing where you hit in the lineup helps out. So they haven't done that at all. It's been awful. A lot of its injuries, but a lot is moving guys around. This spring, every home game, they've run out the same lineup.
Starting point is 00:19:46 And I'm really hoping there's a fundamental change in how they operate. It's DJ Lemayhew leading off. Aaron Judge batting second. Aaron Hicks batting third, which is a very big point of contention. you world. Stan D.Hing. Glaber batting, or is Voight batting fifth, Glaber batting sixth, Giorchella batting seventh, Gary Sanchez batting eighth, Clint batting ninth. Those last three have had the most.
Starting point is 00:20:12 Yeah, and I don't care about seven, eight, nine wiggling, but I'd like the one through six to be relatively the same. And they've never done that, so we'll see. And it's, I mean, FanGraphs has all of those guys you just mentioned projected for 20 plus. plus homers. It's crazy what these guys can do if they're right. I mean, Gary Sanchez is the name that, you know, you probably have to circle in this lineup. This is do or die for Gary Sanchez as a Yankee. Yeah, I mean, it's kind of do or die for his career as a starting catcher this season. It's wild. I mean, fastest player in AL history to 100 home runs. That's insane when
Starting point is 00:20:52 you lay it out like that. Trevor Plouffe hopefully fixed him on sequence ad. So, yeah, I mean, don't get us wrong. We hear all of it a lot more than you. The defense, the offense, whatever it is. This is the final year, a sink or swim for Gary. So we'll find out about that. Everyone else, man, I mean, God, these guys are monsters. These guys are monsters.
Starting point is 00:21:14 Stan's got an MVP in the bag and one of the best home run seasons ever by a non-steroid guy. Aaron Judge, he's got a 50-Yabo season in the bag. DJ LeMayhew, like you mentioned, with the recent MVP's. What Voight did last season, Glaver Torres had 38 home runs as a shortstop second basement at age 22. Up and down the lineup, it's crazy. If these guys are healthy, they're going to ruin days. They are very righty heavy.
Starting point is 00:21:43 That definitely stands out to you, and it hurts my soul a little bit growing up on those Yankee teams that had Bernie and Pasada switch hitting and Tino. They had a really good balance. The Yankees don't have that. Even to share a swiss or Posada. They always had switch hitters and lefties, and they don't know. Their front office now believes in using the short porch variety.
Starting point is 00:22:03 So, and, you know, hey, it does work out when Judge and Stanton flick their wrists. And, oh, there's a three-run homer. But this line of, man, Trev, this is a, we fell into a daydream one day, and this should make people mad. But could you imagine a Judge Stanton home run race in New York City? Hold on. Oh, yeah. The question on the show was like, what's the most like crazy, happy, high prediction you can get?
Starting point is 00:22:32 Like, it came out of a place of craziness. Attack me. But it would be fun. It would be great for baseball. It'd be great if both of them are healthy and they both hit 30 home runs, to be honest. Yeah. Be huge. I don't want to be a downer.
Starting point is 00:22:46 Yeah. I've been holding this in. But since you guys just went to the high of highs, I'm going to go to like a little of those. Allowed. When you started the mention, yo. It got me thinking. I don't love it. Oh.
Starting point is 00:22:59 I had an offseason where I was going through some soft tissue stuff. I said, I got to get longer. I got to stretch everything out so I don't got these issues. And I did yoga a bunch. I mean, a lot. I had a yoga teacher named Garth. I swear he was like at a Rivendale. Like he probably spoke, Elvish.
Starting point is 00:23:19 That's how he seemed to me. But I went to him all the time and I got really flexible. EBD was not ready for that. BPD is not ready for that. We lost it. Garth got me. You and Garth doing yoga. I got too flexible.
Starting point is 00:23:34 My end range of motion wasn't strong. So I'm worried about that a little bit. So my message to the Yankee guys, stop doing so much yoga. I don't know how much you're doing. And if you're the Yankees guys, don't listen to that. Because I think Judge and Stan are built
Starting point is 00:23:46 slightly differently than you. I used to be thick trev. I mean, I'm not like. Yeah, but those guys are Megatrons. They're like some of the biggest They are. Standing next to Judge is stupid. It's stupid.
Starting point is 00:23:59 We stood next to Stan. He's very tall, but he's not Judge. It's cut up. He's tapered. Judge ain't tapered. Stan's a two guard. Judge is a tight end. I would like to see Stanton and Judge
Starting point is 00:24:12 Open Field, like Oklahoma drill. Is that what it's called? Dude. Try of judges. Judge is thick. Yes, they. Hey, I don't know if you know. this, but I played. I played against them.
Starting point is 00:24:25 You were? Second deck. Stadium? Let me talk about the Yankees a little bit. I love this team. I do. I love the bullpen. I don't like some of the guys out there, but I like what they do on the field.
Starting point is 00:24:40 The lineup looks great. I'm kind of in on the pitching staff now. There's so much depth. I know what you're saying about the postseason gym, but when you got to Garrett Cole. It's two very different jimmies. If you ask me, do I think this Yankees team will win the division? Do I think they will make the postseason? I'll be very confident and cocky and like, yeah, I feel really great. But the postseason is we'll have to see when we get there.
Starting point is 00:25:05 But you got Cole. So like, you got an ace like that. You got a chance. Cole pitched three times in the ALDS and they lost. So like you need more than Cole. Well, because yeah, I know that, but somebody from that group is going to step up. I don't know who it's going to be. No, they played every day. He pitched twice. one in five. Yeah. I thought he came back on short rest. Did you not?
Starting point is 00:25:27 Yeah, he pitched one and five on short rest. Monty. That's right, because there's no off days. There's no off days, which low-key hurt the yanks because they leaned so much into call. Low-key-key-key. But somebody's going to step up. We just don't know who it's going to be. And they're not going to, there's no moves to be made.
Starting point is 00:25:42 I know they save some money. It's a little baby a reliever. They're not like the Braves. They're not going to go make a big splash. Yeah, they're not poised to make a big move. That's why I got so excited last episode when we were talking about the Braves, because they're in a window and they're poised to make a huge move. Yankees haven't made a trade at the deadline two years in a row,
Starting point is 00:25:58 so they have to do something just because if they don't do something, three years in a row, I'll eat my face off my body. But they don't have any money, and they're strictly staying under the tax. So they'd have to trade money to get money, or they'd just have to pick up like a reliever for $2 million. I think that's the limit. So that's where, you know, you hope Severino comes back.
Starting point is 00:26:19 You hope Britain comes back halfway through, and you hope they're healthy. I think they can belly up a little more than that. I want to say they have $4 million under the threshold. So halfway through the season, that could be like an $8 million player if you get a little funky with money. Either way, it's not where we just went to Daydream World with the Braves.
Starting point is 00:26:38 Treve, you're all over it, man. We as Yankee fans want to know the formula, and we're not going to know that all year. You know, I mean, Domingo Hermann, bad guy. He could walk in. in the playoffs as our two-starter. He could not be on the team. He could be a nice option to kick to the bullpen and he could be that two-winning reliever that we've seen take off on so many teams. And we just don't know the formula. And it's scary. It's scary because there's other teams you look at and, you know,
Starting point is 00:27:09 I think these final two teams remaining, you say, yep, okay, one, two three, one, two three, kick it to that guy. And the Yankees, they don't have that right now. There's a very excited Yankees postseason and there's the scared nervous. And I think the other thing that this Yankee team does have going for them, everyone else took a step down. The Astros, they took a baby step back. They lost Springer that Verlander's out for the year. The race, no Snell, no Morton.
Starting point is 00:27:40 They're still going to raise you, but. And then the teams that took steps up, the Blue Jays and the White Sox, Blue Jays, that pitching staff scared us. The White Sox, they've got the formula. They just have to show it. So that's going to be the other interesting thing to watch this year because the other AL Powers did take a baby step down this year.
Starting point is 00:28:04 It's almost like you're at home cooking yourself dinner and you got your protein locked in. You've got a nice steak. Whatever kind of steak you like, that's the lineup. Then you got a nice bottle of wine. That's Garrett Cole. Now, that's not a complete meal. You need sides, maybe a salad, an app.
Starting point is 00:28:24 You don't have it right in front of you. You don't have a recipe, but you got all the ingredients in the fridge and in the kitchen. What are they going to cook up during the year to go along with that steak and wine? We don't know. I have confidence that they're going to come and produce a fine meal for us. I really like this team and there's enough components where they almost don't even have to, like, you know, get cornered into making one. sort of appetizer or side dish. They can do whatever they want. They just have to put it together. And I think they're going to. You guys, it's weird talking to you. I know how optimistic you are,
Starting point is 00:28:58 but then as you guys dive deeper and deeper in on this team, it's like you get more and more worried. It's kind of a funny thing. I kind of like, you know, picking at this with you guys. I'm more confident in the Yankees, I think, than you guys are. Well, that's why we always get ripped on for A, being way too confident. And then B, being like, you guys make it sound so bad and Yankees are so good and it's like well I don't know where you want us but it's somewhere in the middle it's somewhere in the middle there you have to mentally brainwash yourself a little bit Jake Jake's always more positive I run a little hotter and we all know that yeah um B B BD I'm not sold on cluber at all and I just watched him play and I thought he looked pretty bad in that spring training
Starting point is 00:29:39 like I had the same thought that Eno Ceres tweeted I was like this guy doesn't look sharp at all Bd we love you you do talking yanks with us as well We kept you off the billboard, and we're sorry about it. Any thoughts on your Yankees? I mean, all of the stuff you just said, covered it all off-season on talking Yanx. I mean, just, like, stay healthy because I can't handle another season of, like, everybody getting hurt.
Starting point is 00:30:04 God, that was nuts, man. And, like, also, like, don't come back right before the playoffs. Because that's all the last two years. We've kind of had the full group at the playoffs, but, like, nobody was in a rhythm. Yeah. The last two seasons, we've had people. return for the first game of the playoffs. In 2019, it was Edwin, Stanton, Judge, Hicks.
Starting point is 00:30:25 Hicks. They're like within a week. They all returned within the five days before the postseason, and they did the same exact thing last year, and that's why I was screaming last year. There's no chance this team. I didn't even pretend to think they could win the World Series last year. And they're doing with the way they constructed the pitching, I'm kind of on board with the, what are the odds?
Starting point is 00:30:44 None of these work out. Yeah, there's so many being thrown. that you know, I think they have enough being thrown that we'll get three playoff pitchers, but I just don't know who they'll be besides Cole. Like, it could be Cole and then the other three or two that you need in the ALDS. I have no idea who's going to win that battle.
Starting point is 00:31:02 It's wild. I don't know. All right, so Draft Kings has their over-under as the second highest over-under out of all 30 teams. So according to Vegas, this should be the number two team. Our audience had them as the number three. team. It's the highest
Starting point is 00:31:19 over-under we've had by far. It's 95 and a half wins. I think the next highest was 91 that we've had so far. That's a lot of dubs, man. That's a lot of dubs, baby. I'll go first. I'll go first. You guys still, it's
Starting point is 00:31:40 incredible to me that you host a podcast about the Yankees. You've got a billboard right outside the stadium and you guys are still so unsure about your feelings about this team. No, I'm very sure. I take the over. I think they're going to have a good regular season.
Starting point is 00:31:57 They've had awful pitching staffs in 2018 and 2019. Go look at who was starting for them. It's nothing special. And they won 100 games. They won 103 games. And they had a million injuries. They cannot nearly have as many injuries as they had in 2019. They won 103 games.
Starting point is 00:32:13 Like Jake said, I think a lot of teams in the vision, I think the raise took a step back. I think the Js are much better, but I don't think that their pitching staff is good at all. Like Roark shouldn't make the team out of spring. I'm taking the over. I'm taking the over as well. It doesn't mean I'm confident they're going to be great in the postseason.
Starting point is 00:32:37 To me, I'm diving into this over. Like Cannonball into the over. I really like it. Like you said, Jim, last two years they've been decimated with injuries, still went over 100 games. And I don't think the division is that tough. And they're pitching staff.
Starting point is 00:32:48 weren't that much better than what they have right now. Yeah, I mean, Cole is still the big difference maker in my head. We still haven't seen what that does over 162, whether it's resetting the bullpen or just getting that effort from him every fifth day. I think Vegas hasn't caught up on the great teams yet because there's a lot of teams in baseball punting. The Yankees, those two years you're referencing 2019-2018, they won 100 games and 103 games with the fifth best ERA in the Yale and the sixth best ERA in the Yale.
Starting point is 00:33:22 So even if they're a good, you know, top 33% staff with their lineup, you can kind of pencil them in for close to a Hyundai spot. So if there's anything above that, whether it's Garrick Cole or one of those other coin flips pans out, I really think for the great teams in baseball, Vegas still hasn't fully caught up yet. give me the over. We're all on it. Max's fun stat, despite only 51 games between the two of them and 120 batted balls between the two of them,
Starting point is 00:34:00 Stanton and Judge claimed the top two furthest hit balls in the 2020 season in the AL, with home runs traveling 483 feet and 468 feet, just eight days apart on July 25th and August 2nd. Did Stanton come out the first couple of games of the season and hit homers or was that the postseason? The postseason he had like eight hits and six of them were home runs. He had six home runs in the first five games in the postseason. He's like a man on a mission.
Starting point is 00:34:29 And he's got something stupid like the hardest hit ball the last four regular seasons, even though a couple of those seasons he only played like 30 games. He's a monster. 18 games. When he's right, man. God, I can't, we don't even get to dream about that, Trevor, because the injuries have sucked so bad. Those California Yankees are coming for it. 100 wins. California, Yanks, baby. Yoga, yoga. Namaste.
Starting point is 00:34:59 You and Garth. You and Garth just sizing each other up every day.

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