Talkin' Baseball (MLB Podcast) - 332 | Jomboy's April All-Stars & Revisiting Our Over-Unders

Episode Date: May 5, 2021

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Hello and welcome to talking baseball. It's the middle of the week episode. A month of the season has passed, so let's take a look at who would the all-stars be, and how are we doing on our over-unders? Hello and welcome to talking baseball, presented by Draft Kings. Thank you very much for tuning in.

As I said, a full month of the season has been played. That was half of last year's season. We're halfway through at this point last year, which is kind of wild. My name's Jimmy sit next to me is Jake. We got Trevor in California. We're in Tidey and producer BBD in The Corner. And our most newest and precious patrons are Andrew Abramo and Vinnie Albrecht. So thank you very much to you guys for supporting us.

We appreciate it. Jake, how you doing? James, Trevor, David, everyone live. in the chat. We got a couple first timers. Hello. I'll make it easy your first time. I'm doing well. I'm doing well. It's a rainy Wednesday in the Bronx. Fireworks at the stadium last night. Holy cow. Pretty. It was like camping. It was intense, man. So that was fun. Excited for a couple more nights of it. Got Treb with that one. Let's F and go, baby. So doing good.

First time I've ever cut up a sweatshirt, kind of inspired by Peter Moyland. He sent a picture of a John Boy Media sweatshirture. He chopped up and I was like, wow, that's pretty cool. That's pretty cool. So I've never done that. Always my hoodies, if my mom used to yell at my sister for cutting the thumbs out of hoodie, so I never cut one up because avoid conflict at all costs. So kind of liberating, look like a crazy person every day of my life.

You never diced up a hoodie before? No. I'm happy for you. It's a cool feeling. Kind of. Not when you're trying to get to work on time. Took you a little bit? I'm not sure what you're doing. Well, you've cut arm sleeves off before.

Oh, yeah. I've abolished slavery often. Yeah. And I was pretty happy when I referenced it in my post saying I took the restrictor plates off. And I was just happy with that cross-sport reference. So, Trev. You're on one today. And I'm kind of feeling it.

At first I wasn't happy with that because, like, sometimes you get a little too much. but right now you're like, you're perfect. And I do agree. I love cutting up sweatshirts. That's a sign of young guys don't cut up their sweatshirts. But when you get a little bit of showtime in there, you start to like, you know, personalize it, cut the neck down a little bit. You can get the sleeves.

So it's a sign of, you know, seniority a little bit, I guess you could say. So you look great, man. If BBD started doing that, we'd have to talk a little bit. Got to earn that. Earn your keep. Yeah, but I love you guys. I'm happy talking baseball with you. And the chat.

What's up, chat? Wow, and the chat. Love. Thanks for 10 bucks. Love is in the air. Who sent that? Let me see. I can love you.

It was Garrett McNerney. First time talking baseball live. Love all things, John Boy, Johnmore Media. So we appreciate that for sure. All right, if you haven't tuned in, if we got a first time listener, Monday and Friday, we recap all the series that was. On Wednesday, we kind of just sit down and we each have a topic that we want to talk about. We kind of fell out.

into some quick hitters here, and I think they may become a first Wednesday of the month, every first Wednesday of the month, this season, because I'm going to give out the April All-Stars, National League, American League, Trev, and then at the end of May, I want to see who gets bumped for like the April plus May, not just May alone. So it's not month by month. That's what I was wondering. It's building. Okay.

So like at the end of May, it's April plus May, All-Stars. So someone's going to get bumped. Okay. And someone might stay. Okay. And we'll just, and then by the end, you know, the All-Star game sucks. Maybe I'll go through the whole year. And then at the end, it'll be the talking baseball All-Stars.

Some might stay. Some might leave. Some are- How All-Stars. That's what it should be chosen. End of the year. It should be the real All-Star team, not middle of the year. Trev, it really doesn't get talked about as much.

I used to have a very small platform. Now we kind of have a bigger platform, and I will harp on it as much I can. The All-Star being giving out halfway through the season is as dumb as it gets. Yes. Like when you're like, it was a five-time All-Star. Well, he had good three months.

That's he could. He could have. He could have been great the rest of the way. Or he could stunk the next three. Yeah. To Cher was her historically slow starter in April? Probably heard his All-Star chances. A lot of seasons.

And he ended up with 40 home runs and great numbers. There's probably a lot of guys out there like that. Yeah. So, yeah. And, I mean, it's in a popularity vote. The fact that it goes on to baseball reference. bugs me. Just to be honest.

It's the least... People reference it all the time. Yeah. Silver Slugger, Gold Glove, um... Sy Young winner, MVP. Those are the other things that go on like the baseball reference,

like accolades. And those are all I like. Their end of season awards. The All-Star game is bullshit. It should not be part of that crew. It's just like any other stat. It's like batting average. Batting average still has value.

You got appreciated for what it is. And it's either hot for staffs, or if someone has 14, it's like, whoa, shoot. They were a pretty good ball player, you know. Or they just got it on name recognition alone. Towards the end, you know, but that's okay. That's, you know, they're stars. Yeah.

You got to appreciate it for what it is. Much like batting average, it's like the other numbers will also be good if they were good. It's like you don't need to point to that first. I think we were looking into doing like a stats that exist but don't matter and finding like all the all-stars who actually had horrible seasons. There's a couple articles out there that are on that. There's a couple bad ones. But, I mean, it is outliers for the most part.

Well, and when every team needs a representative, so like Vogelback goes, even though he's not in the top of his position at all, it just should not be listed on baseball reference in that section. Or no one should use it as a debate. Like, well, he was a 10-time All-Star. It's like, well, yeah. They have the all-MLB team, but nobody references that ever. They just started that.

So, like, let's push that. Maybe we're going to be an all-MLB pod. Well, I was hoping that we could kind of do something as a company and a fan base. Since I think fans still do have some input, I think maybe not as much as they did, but I think we get to vote somebody in at the end. I think we should choose collectively as John Bo Media and a fan base who we want to put in and then just run some sort of. We already reached out to some.

We already reached out to some teams, Trev said that, They want to give us some payola. We'll swing some votes for them on the social medias. Some what? Paola is what artists pay music. A pre-smoke from... Paiotee. Paola is what bands pay disc jockeys to get their songs on the radio more.

But it just means to bribe someone. Paola. Paola. It's a real word. Yeah, I've never heard that one. Paola is the practice of bribing someone. to use their influencer position to promote a particular product of their interests. Payola.

Yeah. I mean, you guys remember when every single royal was an all-star. Just Google Payola. P-A-Y-O-L-A. Pay with a Y. I had it with an O. What? Like to pay someone.

To pay. I see that now. Okay, payola. Cool. Bringing it back. Oh, you were going like Paola? Like P-A-O-L-A. That's tough, Jake.

He didn't connect it with the word pay, I guess. guess. Yeah. I never heard the word before. I'm inquiring. I think a lot of the chat's with me. All right. I don't think so. All right. So anyway, here's my All-Star team. You guys, you guys? It's brought to you by Blue Chew, which is Boner stuff. So tune in. This episode is sponsored by Blue Choo. This All-Star team is sponsored by Blue Choo, guys. It's a hell of a year. Blue Chew is a unique online service that delivers the same active ingredients as Viagra and Seattle, but in chewable form and at a fraction of the cost. Blue Chews tablets help men achieve harder, stronger. What's the rest of that song? Faster.

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You guys want me to go American League or National League? Treve? National. National. National League first on this podcast. Okay. Now, I didn't do pitchers because it's so much more convoluted and tricky with so many options. And I ran out of time.

Ran out of time. Mostly is because I ran out of time. Your starting first baseman, my starting first baseman, and this was actually a contested position. There's not a lot of contested positions. This was one of them. I am going with... Jesus Aguilar. Ooh.

Multi-award winner. Yeah, he's been, yeah, I mean, and that adds to it. He's gotten three awards here on talking baseball. Freddie Freeman's right there with him. Freddie Freeman is right there with him, but I am going, Jesus Aguilar. Max Muncie is also there, but as any listener to this knows, his season is bizarre.

Like, he's got the highest walk rate out of anyone, obviously, but he's also got a high strikeout rate and not a lot of, yeah, it's just weird. So I didn't, technically he's the most war, Max Monty. But I'm not, in my All-Star team, I don't want to just see a guy go walk. Okay. And it's really close anyway in the war. So I'm going, Hey, Zeus, Aguilar.

He's, uh... Do you think there's any bias there over Frederick? The reason I didn't go with Freddie, let me pull it up because I had the number somewhere. The reason I went with, there was a reason that stood out to me. Okay. I think it was, if I can find the raw numbers. Freddie Freeman has 22 hits, three doubles, seven home runs, 18 RBIs, 19 walks. Freeman has a 237 batting average and a 372 on OBP in Aguilar.

Dude, I should have wrote this down because I did have a reason for this. I mean, Freeman's not even close than any of the stats I'm looking at. Why are we saying Freeman and Aguilar is 296 batting average 394, so I just like the day in, day out, putting the ball and play more. Freeman has five war and Aguilar has seven war, and Freeman 0.5. No, no, no, just 0.5.7, my bad.

I just shortened it. Freeman has the most home runs out of any first baseman in the National League trough, so that's why I think some people or besides Reese. Are you on, what's the war we're using, or B war? F. I'm on F4. I got Hesus at 0.8 and I got Freeman at point two.

We're a couple days into May. Yeah, you probably have May in there. Freeman's been hitting. Oh, you don't. This is April. I have all. Yeah. I have all.

This is April. You have four days. I mean, Stanton would be on here in the A.O. Somewhere if we could do May. But it's just April. I'm going to Aguilar. I think Dodgers fans will be mad at me.

But Max Muncie, you know, he doesn't have the pizzass right now. Sorry. And Aguilar has a ton of possess. I like it. He's going to have more cameras on him. We like him. So that was a contested one.

All right. Then some get easy here. Second base. Oh, this is also, I'm going Jazz Chishol. He leads, right? You need a rookie at the All-Star game to get everyone's eyes on you. And he does, he's hurt right now, which hurts him. But he has the most F-war, and his numbers are really good.

So I went to Chad's Chisholm. He's. And Jesus. McMahon's the other option there, but Jesus and Jazz is awesome. Jesus and Jazz is cool. Yeah, I'm wondering, I'd have to look at the games played by position because you're right. McMahon, I know he's been splitting time at second and third. Yeah, that was tough with a couple guys too.

And he might be your Rockies guy. So that could also get in Jazz's way a little bit. That would swing it a lot. The other guy, and, you know, I'm an NOS guy and Jake's Snakes. Treves Eduardo Escobar. I know I think he's been bouncing. He usually bounces between second and third, but he's off to a really nice start to the year.

But there's probably going to be five, six diamond backs at the game. So, you know, if that's not the spot, the other thing that I thought when I chose jazz, guys, was that, you know, in F war, he's leading, but barely. But in offensive war, he's double second place. He's double Escobar. He's almost triple McMahon. Pretty wild.

So I like that. that about him. Yeah. All right. Two Marlins. I like the first two. Now here's a split guy. Split guy.

For third base, I'm bringing Chris Bryant. Trade target. Now, he's been like splitting outfield in third base, but I didn't want to count his numbers towards outfield, which he does rate as like the top out there because there's just so many more outfielders that you take a spot away. Whereas at third base, no one is really running away from it in the National League. he tops all the list but I do get he splits his time there

he's not negative defensive war at third base who'd you see I think the only one who gives him a fight and he's a friend I mean Justin Turner sliding it up sneaky always just so sneaky

look at his stats what a sicko yeah but Brian Brian hasn't beaten in almost everything it's true Brian's been nasty this year and Brian's played more games at third than anywhere else So I thought about going Turner at third and bumping Bryant to the outfield. But there's way too many outfielders that get got there.

Okay. So I'm good with it. Turner is close, but he's just a notch below like almost everything. Yeah. So I have Chris Bryant is your April National League. Wow. I'd like to point out something just real quick to BBD. No Phillies have been named to the All-Star team just yet.

No Phillies infielders. Yeah, we're filling up the reserves. Alec Baum? Although I really want Alec Baum to be good because I've been investing in some of his rookie baseball cards. It's got white the savant page. Comes from a good place.

A lot of hard content. Hitting some bad luck this year. Shortstop for the National League is incredibly easy. It's Trey Turner. He's so freaking good. There is a whole thing where it's like so many people are saying Trey Turner's underrated that he's actually overrated.

Like, no, dude. So many short stops get talked about before that guy, and he constantly bangs heads with the best of them. Like speed, power, average, defense. It's all there, man. He's awesome. I feel like the nationals don't get talked about that much. And I don't know if it's because I'm on the West Coast.

I don't know what it is about them, you know, because it's like a fake city they live in. I don't know. I think they just, they had the weirdest cycle ever, man. They have superstars on their team. They were a bad team. They got hot. They won the World Series.

The world ended. Their team got screwed after the world ended. And now we're here. And they're in the NLES slog. And everyone gets excited about the Mets. And everyone, the Braves have been so good for the past couple years. We got the starting right side from the Florida fish. BPD's Phillies.

The whole reserve infield. Nats don't get enough, love. I got Cardinals fans in the chat right now saying like Edmund got jumped. He doesn't even have All-Star numbers by himself, yet alone being compared to position mates. He's got a 7-74 OPS and a 118 OPS plus. Good numbers. Yeah. I think he's a war guy.

Is he getting defensive war points? No, not F-war. Not F-war. So I don't know what Cardinals fans are doing over there. They're just, they're broadcast. is blowing him up. He's leading in the league in hits. That's good.

But, yeah, but I mean, none of the numbers are all-star numbers. Yeah. So I don't know what's happening there. He's a guy you'd like to have on your team. Jim, Jim, he's got, and B-war has got 1.6 B-W. B-War. Yeah, I don't know what Fanggras do. Maybe he's not qualifying.

No, I don't see him on my list here. He's six. He's got half a war. Point five. Do we need to land on a war? Yeah. Come on, geeks. Figure it out.

That's a big jump. 1.6 right now will be leading, I think, most F-4 people. Well, yeah, I think they're weighted different. I have no idea. Treves's a little biased. I mean, Edmund's a Stanford guy, so they're alumni. You know, I almost signed. Okay, so your infield is Jesus and Jazz on the right side,

Chris Bryant and Trey Turner on the left side. Well, catcher's part of infield. Dude, I didn't even do catcher. It's one guy. Oh, that's look. I'll look right now. Can I name the catcher? Sure. It's probably the best catcher in the league. I'm starting to reel it. It sounds dumb, but I really like Real Moodo.

I like his batting stint. No, just like the little things. Like, I really like his batting stance. I like. Carson Kelly's got him beat. Yeah, D-backs, snakes. Carson Kelly's got 10 offensive war. 1.0. That's pretty good for 30 games. 9.9. 9.9.

And I rounded up to 10. Is that illegal? War? Offensive. war. I don't think that's how that's like said. Yeah. What are you looking at? War, offensive, defensive. Yeah,

I don't know. That's like not right. I never understood that either, Jim. Maybe the chat can help us out in that because there's huge numbers sometimes. That is what the number says, but then the total war number is 1.4, which is more sense. Because they calculate offense, defense, they're not like even. Yeah, but I

want to use it. I wouldn't, yeah, I wouldn't touch those numbers. He's doing something good. I didn't do catchers again. I just straight up forgot. Weren't it. Wasn't feeling it. We'll give it to real mood.

Carson Kelly, no. Snakes. I think it is Carson Kelly for now, but that's a position to watch as we flip to June next month. Outfielders in National League were also easy. Acuna, Harper, Winker. Those were my three.

Okay. Who was, who was contesting? Yeah, Wanka. Dude, I mean, Acuna and Harper were like very easy. No one was really contesting with those two. Bryant was up there, but I moved in the third base.

Right. And then it's, you know, it's Winker and then Castiano's. Right. You're flipping the Reds coin there, huh? Yeah. Grisham's been good, but it was kind of, I didn't really go that deep because it was those guys were really above everyone else. there was a I don't know if this was in spring training

or if this was They all have one dot OPSs They all have slugging that's Point six No no sorry Trave but I'm just I was I didn't want to Funa What are you saying?

There was one game This is my name dropped Sorry I just wanted to get this in I don't know if it was in spring training A regular season game But Winker was going off He's a young guy at the time Rookie and I asked

Votto about him I said hey man like Have you been working with this guy? He seems like he's legit. Like this guy's going to be a guy in a league, huh? And he goes, you know, I think we got to pump the brakes on that a little bit. We haven't seen enough of him. I can't say that about him until I get some more bats.

And I said, okay, that's a really good answer. You would know better than me. Here he is. Jesse Winker. Becoming a guy guy. Yeah, that's where, I mean, I like going him over Castellanos just because we've been trying to hype up the Jesse Winker trade because he's been low-key really good.

Castiano's has an argument, a guy that might be a slightly deep cut. And, you know, we talked a little bit of position stuff. Trent Grisham, last year's gold glove winner, he's got 306, 379, 873 OPS. This is counting some May stats. So maybe he'll be a May guy. But he also plays really good defense, so you could start to spin that. But yeah, how about those guys? Hey, do me a favor and go ahead and just go on Jesse Winker's baseball reference.

Career. 876 OPS. It's a recurring thing of the episode. We're almost on Jesse Winker watch. That's damn near elite, bro. Yeah. Show me your winky. Okay.

The way I did. The way I did this is I had some eliminators, right? So if you didn't have 20 hits or over, I didn't even put you on my board That was my easiest way to Because some people didn't have a lot of games played But they had the hits in those short amount of games So I didn't want to limit it by games played

I didn't want to limit by played appearance I just limited by hits And Carson Kelly maybe I did 21 Like he got eliminated for my whole thing And he's leading catchers That's how bad the catcher position kind of can be Yeah

Have a good week you can be an all-star catcher Yeah All right, so there you go. There's your April All-Stars. Jesus Aguilar, Jess Chisholm, Chris Bryant, Trey Turner, Acuna, Harper, Winker, Carson Kelly. Grats, fellas. We'll see who gets bumped.

I'm going to expect five of those guys to get bumped. There wasn't one Dodger on that. Well, I kind of job Max Muncie just for boring factor. Turner. Turner was on the border. Turner was borderline. I think Turner. So you know what we'll do?

I'll go Winker versus Turner. Because you can just move Bryant, you can move Bryant to the outfield. But then you got two turners on the National League starting nine. Ooh, the right side of the, or left side of the... It would be left side infield, Turner and Turner. Yeah, we kind of have to do that. Sounds like a sitcom. Okay, Turner has him beat in...

No. No, wait, 1.049 versus 1.0.A.Winkers got him beating no PS. Winkers got him beating slugging. Winkers got them beat an average. Winkers got them beat in OBP. Easier position. Winker. So Turner isn't. So I don't know.

It's tough. Debate in the comments. Debate in the comments. Tweet, reply. Okay. Are you ready for the American League? April All-Stars. I think so.

Your starting first baseman is Vladito. Ooh. Love that. He had a 1.153 OPS, 350 batting average. 490 on base. Pop 7 homers, 20 RBIs. He was a standout at his position. Awesome. Happy for him. It looks beautiful, man. Casual sitting at 340 average right now, 479 OBP. And we mentioned this either last up or the up before. 22.1. walks, 20 strikeouts. So he's, uh, he's starting to enter some rare air, and he's still stupid young. Yeah, that's, that's really impressive right there. K percentage down, walk percentage

up. That's something that you love to see with young. Know who's sniffing his butt? Yule? Me. Oh. Oh, uh, no, uh, Matt Olson. Matt Olson coming into the picture. My guy. Hot boy summer. He might, again, I'm in the May staff. Yeah, I think he's had a You're in the Mays. He's had a decent. His OPS up to 936. Picks it at first base. Hot. Black eye.

He had a 3 for 5 game with a double and a home run 2 RBI's in May. Some to watch for May. So just keep your May stuff out of my April, All-Star game. In May, I tried to put April in my rear view, and now I'm back in it. Yep.

It's like I got lost. Second base. Second base. Your American League second base all star is. I mean, you guys might want to do drum roll for this. I know who it is. Nick Solac. My favorite team in the show, the Rangers.

Nick Solac has seven home runs. Next most is five by Simeon. Man, he's got 293 average. 375 OBP. It's not the deepest of positions. But he's the top of it right now. I was just going to say second base is the weirdest position in the show right now. It used to kind of be a position of strength.

And we had Altovae, we had Cano, we had Pejoria, we had Dozier, we had who else was there? There was a lot of guys now that's kind of like used as a position where you can throw a below-average defender. there with the shifts they're doing now. You can just throw people over there. That was not the case before. You used to have to be able to turn the double play, pick it, and that was your main priority. Now the way teams are shifting,

you can kind of put anyone over there. Look at Moose just never played second base in his life and just went over to second base. Man, it is really open, huh? Yeah. I mean, congrats to Solac, April All-Star. Most home runs and highest batting average, which is kind of two different things that

are nice to look at. But yeah, I didn't I expect him to come up. Shout out Jed Lowry. Yeah, Disco Jet is hanging around. Madrigal. Again, I don't know how you sorted it or where he was at at the time. He's hitting 318 now. He could be a sneaky guy if he gets a little more hot.

Only 316 in May. Okay, so. He just has no anything else. Right. Like, he'd have to get that batting average in, like, not rare air, but you'd have to. be like, whoa, Nick Madrigal's hitting 340. Yeah, I think he'd need to be up in the 340s.

Wild man. I mean, Whitmerfield. Because his OPS is 790. Which is good. But not all, we're talking all stars. Right, but for the second baseman right now, it's, I mean, it's probably top three, right? I don't think so. No.

For the April stats, Ty France, like a tick behind Solac. I don't know if he. Olson 940. Solek 910, like he's pretty below. Olson? Yeah. For second base? Who were we just talking about?

Nick Solek, Madrigal, Jed Lowry, the second baseman. I'm so lost. He's pretty below in OPS. Like not top five from April. Yes. Whitten Merrifield? Yeah, some of these contacts, slats. Lappers are going to be interesting. Madrigal, Araya's starting to get in the mix.

But yeah, where's... Arise has no OPS either. B. Lowe hasn't done it yet. D. Fletch supposed to be a contact guy. He's not doing out. Tuve's in a bad place. Yeah. Go second baseman. Go. Sneak yourself an all-star. Fletch has 28 hits and a 565 OPS.

He's struggling. 364 batting average, but that's what happens. when you're a contact guy, your batting average can't get below like 320 for like magical Sola, magical Fletcher and Arise. If their batting average dips below like 320, which is crazy high, they don't bring much else to the table. Or if you can get on base, I mean, Arise, Trev just mentioned he got hurt, but a 398 on base percentage that speaks.

Yeah. Good for Solac. I like when guys feel like I don't really know show up like this. I like that. he's a young guy establishing himself still he's 26 had some time in 2019 obviously he played in 2020 as well kind of struggle last year but good for him France had a pretty good April he was the second besides solock in April second base could be fun huh yeah it's open love it and like it's kind of an easy position to be an all-star right now all right where am I where am I third base or short stuff oh

Third base is the most contested one here. It is between Jose Ramirez or Raphael Devers. And it all depends on what you like and what you don't like. And I'm going with Devers because the defense, according to the metrics, which I only have to believe in, aren't that different. Devers right now is net neutral defensively. And Jose Ramirez is like a positive but not an incredible positive. But Devers just has him beat and hits.

they have the same home runs Devers is more RBIs Devers is more doubles Devers has a higher batting average higher on base percentage higher slugging higher OPS so I'm going Devers at third base he's my third base All-Star can I make one point on that though I think we got to look at the the Babbip here Ramirez is just not he's gonna he's gonna come up he's that 233 batting average ball some play that unfortunately Treves you don't become an all star because of expected results at all ever You become an all-star because of results. April. You're giving the April All-Star.

I'm just saying at the end of the year, I'm thinking that J-Ram might be catching those stats. That's a good point, but he's not winning the April. Well, check in in May. I think we can give it to Devers for now. Yeah, I'm giving it to Devers. He's outperforming him and his defense isn't hurting him enough. Whereas at the shortstop, Bogart's defense is hurting him enough that Kare gets it over.

Ooh. Yeah. suck it Astros fans Trevor I mean Quentin Huberner we like you But Jimmy just throwing the Throwing the Astros in there I love it and you should he's good

Bogart's better offensive stats But according to the metrics his defense is like a problem right now And has been And has been and Correa's defenses plus So Correa is your starting shortstop Okay I like watching Carlos Correa play baseball I know all the stuff off the field, whatever.

But when you watch the guy play baseball, it's for him. Does Bo have an argument? No, not in April. Remember, he was a slump watch and flame and slump watching flame? His OPS for April. I've got the April sets now so I can play your game. His OPS is very close to Correas. So I was wondering if defensively he was on a plane above Correa,

he'd have his own argument as well. I lost internet. Okay. So I... Do you guys know who's at the top of the AL in short stuff defensive fucking war? No.

Glaver Torres. Glaber Torres. Is this a media bias thing? I just hear negative things out of New York. But when I'm on the fan grass page, he's leading. He's over J.P. Crawford and kind of... So I don't know all the defensive metrics,

but is that is like it's UZR that takes in. to like range and does F defensive board not taking? Because if range isn't a factor, then yeah, sure, Glaver might be good. But if you're taking in like, you know, range. I'm assuming it takes into consideration everything.

It's an all-encompassing stat, right? Defensive stats, as much as people want to get hot to trot about whichever ones they like, there's still some flaws. Glaber has been better. Yeah, it was like a rough two weeks. He's been solid at shortstop since the first two weeks of the season. Mm-hmm. The last

three, four weeks have been much better than the first two, three. Yeah. I never hear about that. I like to hear the positive things too. Making the routine plays. All right. You can ask. Outfield for the AL, Mike Trout. Yep. Byron Buxton.

Those are the easiest of easiest of easiest. They're probably, if you had to rank like the All-Stars, they're the top two. And then Cedric Mullins the second. It's an April All-Star. 337 batting average 9 32 OPS but everything else plays which is kind of a shock and I did do two DHS because J.D. Martinez is probably the best there but then O'Toni just has to be at the All-Star game so we talked about that C. Rose. I know I was just going to say that Chris

Rose's conversation kind of opened my eyes a little bit because he was telling and Trev and Jake, I'm interested to hear your thoughts like, you almost have to force Joe Hayatani to do the home run derby. Yeah, I mean. You almost have to force them to. That's where I was going to mention this when we were talking about the All-Star game initially. And it's actually the other side of the scale when you mentioned Vogelback.

Yes, kind of sucks. You're taking away somebody else's juice. But Dan Vogelback went to the All-Star game. He was the best player for the Mariners. a lowly Mariners team that year, and he goes. And that is cool in its own way. Sure, it sucks for someone, but they're the rules we set up. On the other side, this whole thing is supposed to be an exhibition and fun.

And yeah, I mean, Shoah, however you can get them in front of the people, do it. I mean, I think the angels would say, hey, that sounds delightful, but no effing way. I agree. And just to clarify, I want. every team to have a representative player at the All-Star game. I want it to be more stars, like you're saying, than the best players. I just don't want it to be brought up in accolades and compared to all the other awards. When we start comparing two players.

It is a spectacle and exhibition, and every team should have it because then you get every fan base tuned in and all that stuff. It just, like, it should be known. I don't think it's thought of that way as a star exhibition. I think it's thought of like, these are the best players of the season. I think it's, I love my batting average, cop, man. I think, you know, batting average 30 years ago, that was the measuring stick. I think All-Star games were the measuring stick 30 years ago.

It still has value, but yeah, probably should come after some other things. And do it at the end of the year anyways. Have a fucking all... If I had an All-Star game, I would freaking tell everybody. Have an All-Star game, five-game set, AL and NL, every team that doesn't make the world serious. Give them money. Jesse O'Donnell on the chat says, I swear Jimmy came out with this this morning,

forgot pitchers and catchers. I don't know how he figured that out. I think it was said at the start. Is it because we told him that? Good swearing, though. I have a question for you guys. Judge's defense has been bad because the first three weeks of the season,

he didn't move. He just didn't run for two weeks. He's fair now, but he just was letting balls drop and not moving. So that hurt him a little bit. He's like instructed not to try during April. Yeah. And then for catcher, it's Salvi Perez.

Let's go. And he kind of ran away with that as well. Let's go. Love Salvi. Jesus. With you guys, Homer and Derby and dunk contest are pretty similar. You know, we're talking big strength, fun. And the way the NBA has been doing it,

they bring not the best players necessarily, but the best dunkers. In the home run derby, would you rather have just the guys that could hit the shit out of the ball? Or do you want, like, the big names in there, too? Guys that can hit the shit of the ball? I think it's a way to build stars,

the same way that they do, like, rookies usually in the dunk contest. You know, and like, let's... That's only because guys don't want to... Same thing. Judge says he'll never do it again because he did it and won it. He's like, I'm out. I don't care anymore.

And I think that's fair. bring up the young boppers. Vlad's got to do it again. You guys that want to be there, man. Well, now it's a million-dollar purse, which is cool. That's what I was saying, yeah. The million-dollar purse changes everything. Because you're going to get guys, they're like, fuck, I'm making half of that this year.

You do the young bloods, but also, you know, keep an open ear. If Bryce Harper says, yeah, I'm down, you know, do it. Do it. So you just got to keep that open. the poke around the big names. But no, if it was the best names, if it was Acuna Harper, Trout. Do Pete Alonzo every year. Alonzi. He loves it.

Has Trout ever done it? I don't know. And my internet's not working. Gosh, I would love to see Mike Trout in there. Actually, don't. I don't want to see. He's so good. I just want to see him play regular baseball. I mean, 38-year-old thick boy, D.H. Mike Trout and the home-run Derby. Put Nelson Cruz in there

He's already thick How much more thick can Mike Trout kit? He's thick Do Battle of the Ages If you get the right people that are into That's a lot of fun I like rookies versus vets That sounds fun

Like young guns Like just full of energy Vim and Vigger Is that what they call it? Yeah, that's how you make memories, man That's my That will be fun That's my baseball reference game

You do Nelson Cruz versus Vladimir Vladito. And then in 15 years, you do Vladito versus big baby David Jr. Who's in the league? And it's like, whoa, this is badass. It's also wild because Pete Alonzo, what was his salary? 500 grand at the time. And he made a million dollars. So it is a competition now.

It is because I was saying, I was going to say, like, make it. So a teammate has to pitch to them just so you have more faces on the field. Then I was like, but wait, there is a problem. pretty big purse here. I think they're going to want their pitch of choice. Hey, Shohay is not making that much money. Like, a million dollars to him, that's a lot of money still.

Can Shohay pitch to himself? His twin brother, been in hiding. My eight, literally, by he's a twin? Imagine if it's the man in the iron mask and we don't know. It's the biggest scandal ever pulled. Showhays, when

he pitches, it's actually a different guy. He lobs it high enough. He runs into the dugout to change to a pitcher glove and his brother runs out and goes on the mound. What's that movie? Like the prestige or something? The prestige, yeah. Do you do that?

Love that freaking. Rohei Otani. She'll should like draw a mole on his face when he's pitching just to start the conspiracy theories and then wipe it off for when he hits. Who's his agent? That's how you build a storyline. I told you, I was just trying to tell you guys. My agent is his agent.

My agent threw Ryan Braun's home run. Tell him about my fake mole idea then. I will. You know, I'm going to just press that's going to get? My agent has the best BP. The best BP. No, Ollie's not good BP.

Okay, I was going to say. Nes be a lello, shout out. Yeah. Congrats to all the All-Stars. Now, let's make Trevor do something fun. Trev, in the National League, choose one guy that you don't think will be still on this list. Oh, come.

anti-player tress for the national yeah one guy you think no way he's still going to be an all-star I wish I had them all in front of me right now um Aguilar chishism Bryant Turner Kuna Harper Winker

Kelly I think is jazz hurt Jasmine hurt So that's a cop out for you Cop out I would say that Kelly will probably be replaced by Rio Muto Sorry I mean If you ever got around

JT. You love him too, Jake. The guy's a specimen. I like it. I think my National League team has more guys that I think will be replaced than my American League team. I could see Jesus getting replaced. I could see...

Is that offensive? We're calling him Jesus. I just think it's funny. I think you can only call him Jesus when you refer to the two of them together. Yeah. I honestly mean no offense, okay. Jazz and Jesus. Jesus, I think, could be replaced. I think there's a lot of good first baseman in the NL.

Obviously, you know, it's a long season. So that could happen, I think also was hilarious because it could be someone's like, this is what saved my life. It could be like a book. I love jazz.

It's a bang-up Sunday. Maybe we can make a shirt because we just got some good news. They would say no to that. Maybe. For sure. What were you saying, though, Trev? I just think that both,

Hey Zeus and what's the other guy Carson Kelly There's just other guys That have done it For longer And have track records Better track records

That would probably supplant them Okay Jake What Nick pick a guy From the American League That you don't think

Has staying power Cedrick Mullins Sedrick stands out I think he's already Been passed In the first four days of May Or else need somebody That's tough

Yeah, but if you're also doing starters, fan vote. This is our game, our rules. You know, Trev was screaming about Babbip and Jose Ramirez. I can't get it out of my head. Probably that second base shakeup, too. I think Solek. He's always been a hitter, but I think his defense at second base is also atrocious. DJ LeMay, might have taken past him in May already.

DJ's starting to go. A couple, watch those pesky guys. All right. Well, we'll do this again. The other thing that we want to do the second half of this show and is we're going to take a look at our over unders from the TPPs we did before the season and see if we're getting dicey. See if anyone's like, like, oh, shit, we feel bad about it.

We have them in front of us. I can kind of walk down a little bit And just a quick read from everyone Like, uh-oh Or you're gonna stay strong Like no, I'm sticking with my thing Um Do you know the formula to see the projected at all?

I didn't I couldn't think of a quick thing Because every team's played a different number of games Yeah, you need a total number of games, okay The per 162 Trevor's leaving He's got a zero's pre-game show He's out?

Yeah Okay, Trev's out, so we'll just make fun of all of his picks. Dang. Easy. Jake, the Pirates were 56 and a half game. Was there over under? Easy money. You took the over, I took the under, Trev took the over.

They're at 13. They would really need to fall apart. They're kind of... If they have one more okay month, they're fine. You know what? It's like easy math. That's not legit at all, but I'm going to do it times six or something. No, dude.

That's not good. Yeah? I gotta tell you. Gets them to 78. They've been playing around 500 baseball. I'll do times 5.5. Hmm. When did it, we should do like, is it times the win percentage?

No, we just don't have that in front of us. I know, but I'm saying when we do this right in the future. You would just divide it by games played times 162. Yeah. Win percentage. We got it. We just don't have that. So, Rangers, they won 14 games.

You and I both took the under. it was 67. How do you feel about that? I'm still okay with it. I mean, it feels like the West is still kicking into gear, like we talked about with the Yankees a lot on our talking Yanke's stuff. I mean, the Astros had a whole COVID week that they just tanked. A's are getting it going. Mariners have been hot. That whole division, yeah, I don't know. I'm interested to see good for Texas. They're playing solid baseball.

All-star Nick Solek. Someone in the chat said that Fangraphs has projected win, over season, but my internet's out. I don't know if you guys have that. Internet's also out. And that's probably still like, like, that's not playing off the numbers. You don't think so? Like, they're probably doing, like, they wouldn't have the pirates being a 78 win team.

They'd have the pirates being a 61 win team, which is informative to a degree. It's above whatever they had a month ago. Because they've had a good month. Okay. Tigers, they've won eight games. Treve took the over on them. We took the under? We took the under.

I thought I took the over. Me and Trev took the under. You took the over. They're looking like historically the worst team in history of baseball. That's the only one I would change. Out of all 30? Yeah. It's so early, dude.

You took the under on the Orioles. They've won 14. And the over under was 60. feeling good about that. Fine with it. Rocky's over. They're at 11. Let's see, where's some of the big ones?

About the Dodgers. Dodgers 101, and they're going through a slide right now. We all took the over. Yeah. I gave my big speech about good teams, win a bunch of games. The odds makers haven't kept up with that, blah, blah, blah. We'll see. I mean, that's, you know, one of the sneaky stories around baseball

that everyone, like, sends a little tweet. off of like the Dodgers have been losing a lot of games. No, man. Like I still believe we could two Wednesdays from now and we're like, wow, Dodgers have won. They're 12 and 1 in their last 13. They get a nice like homestand. They could be like 10 and 1 in that homestown easily. Well, the Yankees.

You wavering it all here? We all took the over. It was 95 and a half. They're a game over 500 right now, 15 and 14 on the season. You still think they're going to get there? They'd have to have a real good month to make up for April. Yeah, and I expect them to. I mean, they're currently having a good month.

I mean, today could put them on track for a really good month with Cole doing the Thursday game. So, yeah, no, man, I'm pretty genuine in my stance. After seeing the Tigers and what that product looks like, I thought it was going to be young and fun, and AJ Hinch is there. And, you know, we're having tryouts for these young pitchers. they look a different kind of bad.

Yeah, they do. And they don't care. And the thing with the Rangers is that I think they're still going to trade a lot of their good players. So they're like currently doing it right. Gibby. Like my tweet today. The other teams that were like high up there, we all took the under on the Mets and they were at 90. Okay with that.

That division's going to be a mess. That division just beating itself up so much. The Braves, we all took the over. And they're also a team that should. struggling a lot. What were they at? 91.5. Okay.

Yeah, I mean, could be up in jeopardy. That team, we haven't seen them click yet. So I don't know. I don't know. What about the athletics? You took the under on 87.5. I took the over. They're looking like a force a little bit.

They look solid, but they also played completely under their skis for a week. And then they've played completely over their skis since. Like you've kind of been on. I'm interested to see that next Astros series. But, yeah, I mean, 87 games. They're 20% of the way to the over-under after one-sixth of the season or whatever. Watch out. That's a lot of math.

Math-pot people. I would say they're projected to be well over that right now. And then the Astros as well, we took the over. Does this make sense? We took a lot of overs. A lot of overs. We like teams. I took the under on the Cubs.

You took the over on the Cubs. there's a $79.5. Yeah. Yeah, again, I mean, I know the Cubs have been floundering and we almost want them to trade away guys because that'd be better for baseball this year. We said that during the TPP and we were kind of like, felt like we were being reckless,

but now it seems more likely than it did then. What we've gone from, and I think we just phrased it with the Dodgers, we're now out of one series can change your season. Like the first month it was, if you end up with a sweep and you win three games, your outlook just changed. We're now in homestand season. You have a good homestand or a good road trip.

We could call them either. That changes your outlook for the season. And the Cubs are still there. I mean, you know, I think Bias is starting to hit. Ryan's been nuts this year. I don't know if I believe in the Cubs. I think they're going to trade. I still think that's a little bit of us being hopeful

because it would be a lot more fun. Okay. All right. We can check in again on this later when we have like the projections to go against. And maybe we do like a mid-season like, do you want to hedge? Do you want to like?

Yeah, I mean, what's the, I guess the tighter way to do this to not do all 30 teams is the teams that have jumped out like the Brewers. I think we were all on. Brewers over. We were all in the over. All the over.

It's low. It's 82. What I do in the future is I do the math. what they're on... See the biggest gaps. And see, yeah, the biggest gaps compared to who's closest, who's not. Yeah, some math. But I think it's a good monthly check-in on the All-Stars and then the Over-Unders as well.

Trev's gone. And we've got to do John Boy and Jake Radio soon. All right, please. Which starts at noon for anyone watching live on YouTube right now and wants to switch over. We had some other stuff we're going to talk about. Amir Gare gets seven games. Treve was a little surprised at first, throw him on the bus. Kind of make sense when you do repeat offender and reliever.

Yeah, relievers always get different. Like Cassie Young's got two games. It means he's going to miss two. That means he's going to miss 18 innings. Yeah, two starts. And Amir Garrett got seven games. Means he's going to miss two innings. Yeah.

So that's kind of like relievers always get higher games. Like, yeah. Reliever sometimes miss six days anyways. Yeah. So I'm not surprised by it. It'll get appealed and got to go down to five. Down to five. Mrs. Five.

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