Talkin' Baseball (MLB Podcast) - 335 | Trevor Story Was a Texas High School QB

Episode Date: May 12, 2021

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Hello and welcome to talking baseball, the midweek show. And today we have an episode with maybe the hottest summer topic we'll have. Hello and welcome to talking baseball. Thank you guys very much for joining us today. We are excited to have you listening. This is brought to you by Draft Kings. My name is Jimmy. Sitting next to me is Jake in California.

We have Trevor and behind the desk producer BBD. We just wrapped up an interview with Trevor Story. That's what this episode is going to be about. We're excited. The midweek episode, you know, we said it's going to be voicemails. It's going to be we each get one topic. It's going to be interviews sometimes. This week, it's an interview.

And it's a big one, like I said, in the intro, I think his trade destination or trade deal might be the biggest story of the summer. And I'm excited to get there. We asked him about that a little bit. So you'll hear it. Jake, how are you doing? I'm good, man. I'm good. We, you know, there's obviously a couple obvious questions.

We kind of had to throw out Trevor. We'll call him Trevor number one. Trevor number one's way. And we did that. And he was great, man. I mean, he, you know, we got the silly side going. Man, basically a Chili's ad in the middle that had everyone laughing pretty hard. But it was great, man.

And, dude, go. If you're not as familiar with Trevor's story, like, check out the baseball ref. Because this dude's special. special. Trevor, how did it feel to have another Trevor on the show? It's great. It doesn't bother me at all, especially a stud like that. I mean, you guys brought up a lot of interesting facts about the height and weight in the

athleticism. And then we were talking about this before we started recording this intro right here. I think if you're a GM or an owner and you listen to this interview, you are going to want this guy on your freaking team and you're going to be backing up the brink struck to get him. I love his demeanor. I love the way he kind of views himself. I love the way he views the game of baseball. I think everything you could want in a leader for your team, it seems to me like he has that in spades. So, I mean, it opened my eyes to just kind of like the kind of person and player he is. Yeah. So good for us. We did a great job. Thank you us. Yeah. And thank you

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Trevor, what's going on, man? Not much, man, just hanging out. I'd hop on here with you guys and talk to some baseball. I love it. Hell yes. Yeah, we got Pluth is Trevor, and Jake's last name is Story Alley. He thinks his family told stories and alleys, and that's kind of where it landed. So, yeah, Jake's story.

I didn't realize we had a combination of names here. That's awesome. I one time got invited on a Rockies podcast, and my internet name, when we were just getting started, was Jake's story. And they were like, so any chance you're related? No, no, no. Different gifts. Different gifts athletically. How you doing, man?

What's good? Doing good, man. Got rained out last night, so taking it easy this morning. We got a double-headed tomorrow. But, yeah, man, trying to battle this day. Denver weather. How much does a double off double head or cancel the double off day? It does, man. It's just tough because you're you're not expecting it, right? So, like, you can kind of plan for an off day and do, you know, kind of set up what you want to do. But when that surprise

off night hits you, uh, kind of throws you, throws you for a loop a little bit. Is there, is there a normal off day routine? Like, you know, you're usually not jumping on a podcast and chatting with us, but we'll do it if you want to just fill that in all your off days. We're ready for you. Is there usually routine? Do you go see the sites, check out cities, try new restaurants? Is there, or are you just kind of, you know, gaming in the hotel all day? You know, usually, you know, in a normal world, um, lovely to go to the movies, man. That's like my thing. On an off day, me and my wife go to the movies. You know, it doesn't really matter if it's a movie we want to see or not, but we'll check

that out. and usually get a nice dinner somewhere, whether we go to a steakhouse or get something, bring it back home. Is there like a genre battle between you and the misses? Like my wife loves horror and like slapstick comedy and I'm like want to dive into a nice drama or a thriller or something. Do you guys enjoy the same genre?

Yeah, yeah. She's easy, man. She goes for everything. It's my pick pretty much every time. We're both kind of just going for the popcorn. and maybe a little Coke on the side, but that's mainly the gig for us. Is it just popcorn, or are we doing sweets?

Because my movie theater snack is Red Vines. I'm kind of a boomer, so I like the old school candy like that. Red Vines is mine. Do you have another treat besides the popcorn? Dude, I've been on the... So I love chocolate, love dark chocolate. I've been on these, like,

Asa'i blueberry, little things. But dude, those have been our go-to for the movies. We'll kind of sneak them in. But yeah, that's my go-to for sure. I love it. I'm just remembering that I made a video now. I just remember this now. I'm looking at two Trevers in front of me.

I made a video. I don't know if you saw it or not on all the Trevers that are currently in baseball. You're the only hitter with the first name Trevor. every other Trevor in baseball since Plouffe retired is a pitcher. There's like 15 of those versus you. I made a video on you versus them. And all the Trevor's on the mound kind of get the best of you in your career. Are you aware of this?

Sorry to do this from the start. I just remember like the Trevor pitchers really come at you hard when you're in the box. Dude, yeah, it's serious. I honestly didn't know until I saw your video like that. And I was like, man, I need to step it up against these guys. But, yeah, dude, I guess they get the best of me. I know Bauer has so far. And like you said, there's 15 other Trevers.

But, man, it's been rough for Trevor's story against the other Trevers. Damn, man. You had to go there? I just got remembered. I mean, I'm ruined for him. I mean, Trev Bluf shouldn't have retired. He's the lone position player Trevor right now. Get it loose, plow.

I doubt I was any better against the Trevers. I remember Bauer, I always had my number. I'd always get to, like, a good hitter's count against him, and then he'd spin some stupid cutter up there, and I'd pop it up or something like that. It's about how my bats wins against him. You left me out, man. You left me out to drive.

I'm the last one, last position player standing, I guess. Yeah, all right, all right. I'm not making a comeback, because I was terrible when I played, and I'm very terrible. Now, can I, wait, we're talking bad now. I want to pump you up a little bit. Let me go up. We're going up, okay?

This is our first question about baseball. And yes, I have my batting gloves on right now. I noticed that. You got me fired up. When you came on, I got fired up. I want to ask you, you come up, you make your debut in 2016. What the hell was going on in your head during the first week of your big V career? Nine for 27, seven homers.

Homer in each of the first four games. Like, what kind of confidence does that build? I remember my debut. It didn't feel like that at all. Like, what, did you think that this was just going to continue for the rest of your career? And it kind of has? Like, did you just find that confidence and kept it? Um, that, you know, that definitely boosts in my confidence, you know.

Coming into that spring, I felt like, you know, I felt like I was ready and I knew I could play there. And, you know, I was battling for the spot in spring and had a really good spring. So that helped me too. I kind of just rode that good feeling into the start of the season. And, yeah, open up in Arizona. And, you know, the two homers on opening night, I was like, I was just so, like, caught off guard, man. You know, like, I hit, you know, I hit home runs in the minor leagues. But, you know, I think I hit 20 a couple times, two different years.

But, you know, I was always hit. in doubles and like line drives is my game and you know you always hear about you know you're gonna those doubles will turn into home runs and I guess that's what happened man because that first week I was just really you know I was very confident of myself obviously but I was like I don't know like there's no way I can keep this pace up because you know I think I had a good perspective on it at the time. And I remember thinking, you know, being with my wife and my family, I was like, I remember kind of stepping back and be like, you know, this is, I think this is pretty special.

So I need to kind of soak this in a little bit. That's good. It was special. My goodness. Ploo, I don't think your debut felt like that because your first seven games, you went three for 23. So I think that's why the emotion felt a little different. And, hey, still better than my debut.

Well, we're waiting on that. Yeah, we'll see. We'll see. Trevor, I want to talk to you, man, because I lived in Denver for like three years, loved it out there, man. The course field experience is one of the best. You got the mountains in the background. There's the bars in the right field. I love it.

And it's a passionate sports town, you know, they love their ponies. I mean, the Broncos kind of rule it, but rocks, abs, nuggins. They're still in the blender there, and everybody loves them. I, you know, our midweek episodes, we normally do recaps of the series on the bookends, and then midweeks we kind of find some topics. I get passionate about the Rockies, man. I loved it out there, and I think there's some fun to be had with the cores effect, and we're still learning about it and evolves over time.

So I kind of wanted to hear your whole experience with that, because, I mean, I can sit here and talk and say, like, oh, you know, when they go on the road, fastballs actually look different. But, like, what was your actual experience with that, and how has that changed through the years? Yeah, man, it's been a... You know, I think the biggest thing that I can say to that is just the way your body recovers and the way you feel on a daily basis, I think is where the biggest jump comes from. You know, obviously being at home, you know, in Denver, the elevation, you got to hydrate like crazy, man.

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That's kind of, I kind of think of that, but not bad teammate. I just think like bad person, like I'm not taking care of myself. Jake and I are super into drinking a lot of water and peeing all the time and staying hydrated. They sent us over this stuff. Treve, you got a package as well. It's a little package. You pour them into the water. Makes your water taste good.

Rehydrates you. I'm hydrated as hell right now. Oh, yeah. Pee right now. Yeah. I don't think hell is that hydrant. You never been, Trev. And you never will be.

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Back to the interview. You got to hydrate like crazy, man. And if you don't, like all these soft tissue things will pop up. up and you know just a lot of injuries and soreness pops up if you're really not taking care of yourself and you know eating the right things drinking a ton of water that's like my my biggest thing it is trying to be as hydrated as I can and um you know going going from the road to to back home you know it's kind of just playing that battle you know with your body and on the road you feel really good um you know you wake up you don't feel as achy or as sore from the game before

And at home, it's the opposite, you know. You feel every slide or every dive that you make. And, you know, I think as far as, you know, the way the balls act out of the pitcher's hand, in my experience, it's been, you know, I think like the elite guys, they're always elite. They're always, you know, spinning. Everything's going to be going to act the same in my eyes,

just from my experience. And I think maybe if it's kind of a sloppier slider or a slider that is not spinning at the rate of an elite pitcher, then it might stay up or it might back up, you know, work back towards me a little bit. So that's the best way I describe it. And I think just more so the way your body feels at home as opposed to on the road is the biggest thing. You know, we talk about the Corps effects. Usually people say, you know, oh, he's benefiting from playing at cores all this time. But when I started to read articles about it and doing this podcast, we do that a ton.

It's got to be crazy to have that experience at home where you're saying, you know, a lot of these sliders will back up or they're not going to break as much. And then you go on the road and it's completely different. And those sliders are going to bite and they are going to act like they're supposed to act. Like I got to imagine that's difficult to make that adjustment, you know, on day one on the road or day. two on the road. Do you guys have, do you guys game plan for that? Like pregame, are you getting the machine out there and spinning breaking balls to prepare for that? Yeah, that's exactly what we do. We, um, on the road, you try to get a lot more machine working, um, in the cage, whether it's in the cage or out on the field, obviously out on the field would be more ideal. But, um, yeah, just,

just, you know, for me, I don't even swing at it all the time either. You know, I'll get in there and I'll see the breaker, just track it with my eyes and, you know, try to just feel, feel, get overall feel of how that pitch is moving, you know, whether in San Diego or L.A. Sometimes it's a little different. And just play, kind of play games with myself, you know, try to see the breaker up, the one that I want to swing at. And then, you know, have our coaches kind of move it down to where the one that is just down, the one I want to take. and kind of just play that game in my mind and, you know, kind of give a verbal on like a yes that I want to swing at that one or a no.

And so that, I think that has been the thing. And I just started doing that everywhere we go now so that I can kind of, because this is just good practice for me being able to swing the pitches I want to swing at. Yeah, we, Dahl came on last year. He told us a little bit about that. And as we've gone, I think the baseball world is starting to rid

themselves of just that narrative of like, oh, the, you know, the road numbers are worth more or the home numbers are worse less at Colorado and, and meet, like, meet in the middle. It's like, oh, it actually makes hitting on the road harder than it makes hitting at home easier, which is awesome. And I think with a bunch of Rockies players, LeMayhew and now Nolan leaving and performing, does that, like, when you see people saying that when DJ leaves and they're like, oh, well, you just benefited, are you just laughing? And like, that dude will hit anywhere? Yeah, yeah, more than anybody. I think DJ is the guy. You know, I was looking forward to seeing, you know, what he's going to do just because I knew, you know, I know what the kind of hitter he is. And it doesn't matter where you're at, man, you know, hitters are going to hit and, you know,

they're going to find ways to get their knocks and drive the ball. And, I mean, you've seen what DJ has done in New York, you know, the past couple of years. It's been amazing, man. And, you know, more damage than you know, and he did at Coors, I think. He's liking that short porch, he popped to the other day off of Pajor Corbyn. We were joking.

Jake's sister actually ran into a theory that she thinks DJ doesn't like playing first base that much because too many people try to talk to him. So you shared an infield with him. How often, how many words you think you're getting out of him during the course of a game? Oh, dude. I mean, you're getting five maybe. And it's probably just, you know, all of those are communication type things that we have to talk about. So, I mean, that prediction about him playing first might not be too far off.

It was my sister, I mean, it sucks. We've kind of been at this for three years now. My sister just casually texts me one day and she's like, pretty sure DJ hates first because people try to talk to him. And I was like, God damn. Analytics be damned. She's got it. Yeah. We have to mix in our Yankees bias a little bit.

We've seen influx of Rockies come in the past couple years. We've seen Otto, DJ. Canely. Canely. Too low. Too low came through. Are you any of those guys, were your dudes on the team? Are you stay in touch with any of those guys?

For sure. Yeah, DJ is one of my close friends. Stay in touch with him all the time. And Audavino, we keep up with each other. I know we had a little text exchange when we came through there. And I think it was 19. And we got to face each other. So that was fun.

And yeah, man, you get close to these guys, especially, you know, we all kind of grew up in that rocky system. But, yeah, DJ and Otto for sure. And Talkman, Talkman as well. Oh, yeah. Yeah, Mikey Tee. We kind of came up, you know, grew up in the minor leagues together, played three or four different stops together. So that was cool to see the success that he had, man. And, you know, I think he's got a pretty good opportunity in San Fran right now, too. Yeah, man, Mikey T was a lot of fun with the Yankees. He kind of had a weird shoulder thing last year.

But, man, when that guy's been healthy, he was a ton of fun. And I think he might do big things in San Fran. and we've seen a lot of guys kind of Renaissance over there. Do you have any cheese on any of those guys? I mean, we can feed it to our Yankees fans a little bit. Obviously, they always want anything on DJ. I think behind the scenes, all we have is, like, he's, you know, obviously a crazy competitor. I think peak pandemic, he was like he made a hockey net in his living room

and he was just ripping shots or something. So if you got anything like that, we're more than open to it. Yeah. I mean, yeah, those are it, man. He's the Michigan guy, you know. He loves hockey. You know, he's like out there freaking, you know, playing pick up hockey games and doing his thing. Just trying to find ways to compete, I guess.

And, yeah, man, he's really similar to the guy that you see on the field, you know, just very quiet, very stoic. you know, just, you know, has that quiet intensity about him, too, which is, which is pretty sweet. And, you know, he loves hoops, too. He loves basketball. He can play some hoops, man. Don't, you know, he's sneaky athletic out there. So we've had some good, you know, shooting battles, you know, at his house. But yeah, man, he's, he's very similar to the person that you see on the field. I love it. We got some stats here on you.

We got a little spreadsheet comparing you and Adrian Peterson. So this is, you both the same height, same weight, same vertical jump. Wow. Same 10-yard sprint. So, you know, our notes just say built like an NFL running back. Is this something you're aware of? You take pride in. And the second part of the question that Trev stumbled into is grew up in Texas.

built like a running back. You quit the high school football team or stop playing football to pursue baseball, I'm guessing. How did the coach, did the boosters? Did you get chased down? Like, was that like a big deal in town? So a little bit, yeah.

You know, I liked football. I can't say I loved it. know, because I didn't like getting hit, man. It was like, it was just so taxing, I guess. You know, it's obvious that that's the most physical sport. But, you know, I love, like, trying to make people miss, you know, in the open field and doing that thing. And honestly, I wanted to be a, I wanted to be a wide receiver or a running back.

But, you know, our high school coaches knew that I had a good arm. So they would always kind of force me to play quarterback. And I was, you know, I didn't love that. You know, I like throwing the ball, but I like to get out and trying to like use my athleticism and make people miss and make sick catches and stuff like that. But, you know, I kind of called my own shot in sophomore year. And it was a quarterback keeper. And dude, the pass protection got mixed up and they thought it was a pass.

and I'm running it and I just get just get like pulverized straight into the ground and I break my collarbone after that, I was like, that's it, you know.

I'm going to a straight baseball now and that's a good choice. You know, worked out pretty well, yeah. Yeah, I did. God. So yeah, we're kind of mad about it.

This is this question is for me and only me so like everyone else tune out right get out of here everybody else you've been a shortstop your entire life right yeah how much how much pride do you take in and being able to stay at that position is that you know everybody is good at baseball play shortstop as long as they can you play shortstop until you can't play it anymore and you've been able to do it um your entire career how much how much pride do you take in that A lot, man. It's, you know, shortstop is a very demanding position, you know, as you know, as you know,

and I do take a lot of pride in a lot of pride in, especially defensively. Yeah, I think a lot of teams, you know, the good teams have a really good shortstop, defensive shortstop. And I feel like, you know, that's something that I put a lot of work into. food. And it's really all about the fundamentals, man. And it's something that I want to do for a long time. As long as I play, I want to play shortstop, you know. And, you know, there's a lot of people that help me with that. My trainers, you know, the people help me getting the right food in my body so that I can have longevity here. Yeah, it's certainly something that I do take a lot of pride in. And, you know, shortstop is supposed to be the kind of the

captain at the infield. So I do take a lot of pride of that for sure. Okay. Following that up, what do you feel about the shift? How do you feel about the shift? When you have to move out of your position and kind of they're telling you where to play because that's where the ball is going to be hit. Do you like that? Or are you like a Francisco Lindor who's like, man, I just want to play short so I can go make a play. Yeah. You know, I'm kind of in both. sides of that. You know, I really obviously love staying around the shortstop area, because that's where, you know, all my instincts are. You know, I like to, I really like to

use my instincts and just kind of feel where a hitter is going to hit the ball and kind of just go off of that. But, you know, I understand that if it's a big lefty and, you know, this guy's pulling the ball at a crazy rate on the ground, then, you know, it kind of makes sense to go over there. And, you know, from an offensive standpoint, obviously it's not great. You don't love it as a hitter, but yeah, man, as a defensive shortstop, I try, you know, I don't want to be ignorant to the numbers that are so blatant in your face that this is where you should play or have more guys over on this side. But, you know, I think, you know, obviously it hurts offense a lot.

Yeah. Well, your spray chart is all over the place. Like, I would guess you don't get shifted a lot. I was wondering if you ever, like, stepped in the box and the team did a weird shift on you. Like, does it, do you laugh at them or does it get in your head a little? And you're like, wait, what do they know? No, I definitely try to notice it. You know, sometimes you just, you're pretty locked in and you don't notice where the, you know, where the infillers are playing you.

But it's been about the same for me. The past two years, the second baseman pretty much goes right behind second base. and dude, there's been countless times I've just hit like a bullet up the middle and he's just chilling right there and gets me out. But there's a lot of times too where, you know, I've tried to,

I literally just try to hit the ball to second, where the second base would be playing, you know, like straight up second base. I've got some cheap hits like that, you know, just like some, you know, 20 hoppers through right where second base would be playing. So, you know, it took some time for me try to learn how to do that, but it's something that, you know, with today's game and the,

you know, the talent of these pitchers, sometimes you just got to try to take that. I love that. I love that you do that, man. That's a hitter. You're a baseball player. And a lot of times now we're only gauging guys on, you know, extra base hits. And, you know, obviously you want to hit the ball hard. So exit Velo is very important.

But there are some times, like you just said, you got to buckle down and try to punch one to second base when nobody's there. You've got to get the job done. And I think a lot of times people, you know, especially fans who are very analytically driven, forget that part of the game. And I love, you know,

you're a sluggard, dude. I love to hear you say, sometimes you're just trying to do something for the team, hit one to second base. I love that. Thanks. Yeah, it's tough because you got to take your pride out of it, right? So it's like, obviously I identify, you know,

myself and I want to be a slugger, But, you know, I try to think of myself as a hitter first. And I think Chuck Nasty's taught me a lot about that, you know, since coming up and kind of growing in the big leagues, he's taught me a lot. And, you know, he's really good at that too. So, yeah. I want to jump back because I found it really relatable because, you know, the high school football coaches also begged me to play quarterback.

And I was just like, no, I can't do it, coach. Like, I got baseball. No, 5-7, they didn't want me back. there. Your mom wouldn't allow you to play football. Yeah, that's true, actually. That's a fact. That's a fact. She was afraid I would get hurt. Thanks, Mom. She was kind of right. She knew you would get hurt. She was kind of right. No, I actually, Ploofy mentioned a name before that, you know, I'm sure you heard a lot about. Frankie Lindor. He went over to the Mets.

He was, you know, this shortstop free agency class that, you know, I'm sure you've heard enough about. He, you know, he goes over to the Mets. He gets the payday. Do you, you know, do you just send a get the article and send a link to the Rocky's front office and say like, hey, you know, do you guys see this? Or, you know, what, genuine, I know it's kind of a weird question

to a degree, but like, does that, do you see that and you're like, you're excited? You're obviously excited for Frankie, but I mean that, you know, that means something to you too. Yeah, no doubt. You know, first off, excited for Frankie for sure, because, you know, he deserves every bit of that.

And, you know, we've gotten to know them a little bit, just talking to them and talking shop, talking baseball. So that's been cool. And it's been cool to kind of get to know him a little bit through that. So super pumped for him for that. But yeah, man, it's always good, you know, given kind of both our circumstances, kind of, you know, we're running through this thing at the same time.

And, you know, we have a similar type, you know, career that that we've that we've put together these last five years and um so obviously yeah you know look at that and it gets me excited for sure are you are you paying attention like to the you know obviously there's tons of trade rumors and trade talk and everything do are you interested do you keep in keep in touch are you are you asking uh the rockies like hey if you're in talks please let me know or would you rather just like put the Do Not Disturb sign up and let me know when and where I need to be? Yeah, I just put the blinders on, man.

That's, I really tried. You know, we knew that this could be a possibility coming into the season. And, you know, we're really just trying to make our goal be as present as we can each day. I know it sounds pretty cliche, but, you know, today I'm playing baseball. And today I want to try to be the best that I can.

And so, you know, at the end of the day, I can't control, you know, any of that stuff. If I do get traded, you know, then we'll deal with it then. But it is certainly something that I put the do not disturb on. And pretty much just told my agent, hey, if, you know, I don't want to hear any rumblings or any type of, you know, gossip. You know, if something's happening, something's going down, let me know. And then we'll go from there, but I don't want to hear anything other than if something's out. They're going to have a tall task, I think, in July. Mine need to get some big blinders.

That's not a cliche answer. That's the right answer. I mean, you're being truthful. You're focusing on your job because guess what? You focusing on your job for the last six years has put you in the position. So don't worry about being cliche with that one. That's the right answer. Yeah, appreciate that.

What's a, I mentioned before, I'm a Denver guy. What's your Denver spots? I mean, we're heading out there for the All-Star game. I was kind of over by the mall, country club area for a little bit, YouTube money, whatever. Where are your spots? Yeah, man, same spots. Down here at Cherry Creek. You know, we love Matsuhisa.

Yeah. Some sushi. That's really good. Okay. Similar to a Nobu type restaurant. You know, the true foods, the flower child, the healthy go-to is there. They're all really close right here. So, yeah, man, those are, other than that, we, you know, chef Tyler at the field kind of kills it.

So there's not many meals I have outside of that. But those are probably the three that we go to. have you given up on chilies because i did do a deep dive into your social and about a week before you made your historic debut you took your now wife yeah for your five-year anniversary to chilies are as chili is out the window now are we done with it one's she's over here laughing at me you know it's been a while i can't lie it's been a while since we had some chilies in our life but we love it, man. Maybe tonight.

Split an app sampler, have a good time. Used to be mine and Jake's college dates. We grew up on it, man. So we, you know, it's one of those nostalgic things for us. And, but it's not. One time in college, the local Chili's put out like, we're going to have a fuzzball competition. The winning team gets a free meal.

And Jake and I had a fuzzball table in our college house. And we were like, oh, my God, dude, finally we get to prove our skill set here. And we rolled up to the chilies ready to take on all the locals in Fuzball. And we were the only two people that showed up. So no one else showed up. So we looked at the manager and we're like, dude, like you got to give us a free meal. Like, we won. And we did.

And that was probably the most pathetic night of our college life. Yeah. That's awesome. They didn't even have drinks, didn't even get to play a game. Yeah. Got a free like absinant. Not a ton of sex that night for us. I got one more thing

We do Our Patreon people that help us out They submitted some questions So we'll get to those in a minute I had a question You talked about maintaining your body And it all ties into You know

Being able to keep up at shortstop and all that You led the NL in steals last year I mean is that With time in the league I mean have you Figured out some more tips, tricks, And codes? Because you know

If you got the same speed Is it just knowing pitchers better? and some different scouting reports? Or what ties into that? Yeah, experience is huge with stealing bases. And I think once I kind of embrace the mindset of being aggressive and not caring if I getting thrown out, that's when I think it kind of took off for me

because you can't have any type of timidness when it comes to stealing bases because you know, you just talk yourself into not going or we're getting a bad jump. And obviously every off season, my goal, you know, one of the goals is to get faster, get quicker, first step, you know, all that things, all those things being more efficient that way. And I think those have helped too. And, you know, credit to my trainer back home. So experience is huge, no doubt. And yeah, you know, there's a lot of patterns out there that are there for the taking. And you just got to kind of got to do your homework on it. Yeah, I mean, in September 6th through 8th last year, you stole four bags and three consecutive games. How many of those were like in a row? Like every time you got on base, you were just stealing. Should have checked before I looked at it.

But it looks like, I mean, you stole four in three games. How many times were you on base and you didn't steal on that stretch? You had to be. Wait, four each game? No, no, he's still two of the first game. And then the next game, you still won. Next game he still won. But I'm saying it's not like you were on base after every single out bat or maybe you were.

And you're having just a hell of a time out there. No, I don't think it was, I don't think it was consecutively, but I think it just kind of lined up to where, you know, you kind of identify the guys. You identify your guys that you're going to take a chance on and those guys kind of lined up perfectly for me. And I was, I was no hesitation, man. It was time to go. I love looking at splits and first pitch swingers and stuff. like that. We had Delman Young on who loved swinging at the first pitch. You swing at the first pitch 30% of the time and you're at bats. But when you do, you absolutely crush it. You have like a

444 batting average. I think the slugging was insane when I looked at it. Yeah, 815 slugging. When you do put the first pitch in play 50% of the time, it's an extra base hit, you pick it and choosing your spots versus the pitcher? Or is that like a self-confidence feel thing for you? Is it just like, I don't care who's pitching, I feel so great, or you're like, oh, I think this guy's going to throw a fastball first pitch? You know, there's times where I'll kind of flip-flop on that. But I think I would say, like, 90% of the time I'm going up there ready to hit the first pitch. And that's just kind of the hitter that I am. I like to be aggressive and I like to be ready to hit, you know, because I, you know, it kills me.

you know, when a fastball's right down the middle. And I've kind of predetermined the take there. You know, I know Trev can kind of attest to that. That's the worst. So for me, I'm ready to hit from pitch one, man. And I, you know, there's certain times where I may not be, but those are few and far between, I would say. And so I try to, I try to treat every pitch and every at bat, you know,

that way to where, you know, it's a yes, yes, no mindset for me, as opposed to, you know, being a little timid or trying to just see one. We have, like, Trev, Loofy? I was going to say, that is the worst feeling. A predetermined take and you get a fastball right down the middle. One, you know you could drive. That hurts.

That hurts you in the soul as a hitter. So, you know, that was something that you said you've just always been that way. That is something that teams will tell you, if you're taking too many pitches, they'll come and say, hey, you're being too passive in these good counts. Like you need to be more aggressive. I got that all the time. But I'm happy to hear you say that.

But we got to stop asking these questions because pitchers are going to be listening to this. And they're going to start flipping those curballs up first pitch. All right. Let's let him do what he's doing. All right. All right. Our bad. Well, here's a question that other proposing pitchers can listen.

It comes from one of our patrons, people that support what we're doing here. And we give them an opportunity to ask questions. So we have like a Patreon question. of the interview and BVD is his name and this is like a real good question that you know might give away something might not uh the question is do you have any strange inclination to give your children the first name toy not just to know the hard hidden questions he's I mean I said when I saw this is great question because you got Coco crisp got Milton Bradley like if your son is named Toy Story.

he's a big leaguer. I mean, almost he can't do anything to not be a big leaguer or a singer or someone famous. So I think if you don't give it, might just run. Anyone try to give you that nickname? Like you grew up in the Toy Story age. Yeah, I mean, certainly not the first time I've heard the toy story joke. Never, never have anyone tried to like, you know, dub that my nickname. but it's usually just some some fan in a random city, you know, saying something about Toy Story or Woody or Buzz.

So that's where it usually comes from. Instead, you got the nickname Joe. Yeah, yeah. What's up with that? So the way I got this nickname was from Mark Reynolds. My rookie year, he was with us. If you know, Mark, he's, you know, he loves to, I guess, ride the rookies. And, you know, nothing, nothing, you know, no foul player or anything like that.

But he's just, you know, he'd have me carry his stuff all the time or, you know, just go do a little chores for him. And so he would, he didn't really know my name, I guess, in spring training. And he called me Joe. and I wouldn't answer to it because obviously it's not my name. Good call. Yeah, so he didn't know my name, so he was just calling me Joe. And then obviously after one time that happens, it sticks.

And Mark's calling me Joe, and then everyone else is calling me Joe after that. But once Mark left the team, I said no one else can call me Joe. that's do you have a rookie that does that stuff for you now have you do you treat rookies kind of how you were treated or have you been more lenient towards them definitely more lenient yeah i think i you know i think you can kind of attest to that too the game is kind of changing in that way you know that that that is uh almost non-existent now to where you know the rookie, I guess you call it hazing.

They've cracked down on that pretty big time. And I think a lot of it has to do with, you know, the rookies or the young guys, man, are playing a huge role on these teams. You know, and a lot of them are superstars and they're playing every day. So, you know, Mark, you know, to his credit that, you know, on my debut, I think, you know, the first month or so, he, you know, he wasn't bothered me at all. I was kind of playing well. And, you know, some of the other rookies, I think, were kind of upset that I wasn't being messed with.

But Mark was like, you know, just if you hit homers, then that stuff won't happen to you. But it's, that's kind of the way that rookie stuff's going. You didn't get your cleats, nail guns to the floor? No, no, nothing like that. good. It's good. I think it was I think it's a Canely story, right? Yeah, I think that's an old. Did not like it. It's an old one in Yankee. Well, Rocky's lore a little bit.

I never heard of that. Nailing their shoes to the floor, that's a little extreme. I don't think it's public, but there's a guy who pitched for a long time that I guess that was his go-to. I think he got Canely with it. He got Billy Crystal when Billy Crystal was a spring training player for the Yankees.

There's definitely a lot of, there's definitely a lot of bad hazing stories. I'm actually happy that that's kind of getting out of the game because like you said trav like a lot of times now the young guys are come up and playing a prominent role on the teams and you want them to feel comfortable sure like you have to teach them how to act and behave sometimes you show them the ropes but like the hazing making them feel uncomfortable on purpose i think is i mean it's detrimental to development you know it impedes their ability to feel like themselves and and you know when you first come up it's it's it's a different world so you're just trying to navigate

that and you have some guy messing with you, it doesn't help at all. So I'm glad that's kind of getting out of there. Yeah, yeah. Me too. You just want to be themselves, man. They're worried about doing, you know, doing all these little things wrong or stepping on people's toes. It's hard to, you know, do all that and then go out there and play a big league game. I got, I'm sure some, some of the rookies are probably like, well, Trev, I know what you did to me. So I'm being a little hypocritical. I wasn't too bad, but, you know, definitely some guys out there being like, what's he talking about. Damn.

I got one more from our Patreon, Jordan Boss. He said, what goes into picking your walk-up song? Because I am curious about that, and I'm sure you get that a lot. But also,

Chuck Nasty kind of killed the game, man. I mean, when your love kicks in and the whole stadium goes, it's like, damn, you killed it, man. Like, there's been a couple times I was at Rocky Games,

and I'm like, I'm not going to sing it. I'm not going to sing it. And then by the time it kicks in, tonight, you have to. So what's your walk-up game? like what goes into that? Yeah, man, I'm, you know, I love hip hop and, you know, post Malone, Drake, you know, Kendrick Lamar, those type of guys. That's just kind of what I grew up on. And so

that's kind of what gets me going. I like to have upbeat. Just something that the fans can kind of get into as well. So, you know, I'll mix it up each year, kind of whatever I'm feeling, that offseason or whatever's new. And yeah, man, Chuck's. Chuck's is legendary. I think, man, he nailed that thing right on the head and just right, you know, the whole stadium is singing it. And obviously, everyone wants that, you know, from the fans.

But Chuck is just, you know, so legendary, especially in this town, you know, the fans are so good to him, man, and they're good to everybody. But Chuck is certainly the darling of Denver. and he's killing her. I liked that the darling of Denver. Denver, Chuck nasty. Those two things like kind of juxtapuzzo's like Chuck Nasty, the darling of Denver. But I love it.

I had one more I thought of for both Trevor's because I just thought of this and we could literally ask any big league player. When a teammate gets traded in like iPhone team group message day and age, is there ever a real awkward like you got to remove him from the chat or like, you know, Aronado gets traded and all of a sudden he just like removes himself from the Rockies Infield group message? Yeah. Okay. Yeah.

See you later. That definitely happened. Yep. Exactly. That's a fun dynamic. It's tough. It's weird. It's weird.

It's real. Yeah. That's like, yeah, really sets in. All right, man, we took up a lot of your time. Thank you very much for joining us. Good luck the rest of the way. Do you ever, do you have a pinstripe suit? Do you ever like wearing pinstripes?

Stop it. You're a vertical. I mean, yeah. He's already wearing him. That is true. So, yeah, that's what I was saying, Ploof. Let him leave. Get out of here, Jake.

Let him go. Enjoy your off day, man, and go catch a movie. Mortal Kombat, I watched. Pretty good. I saw it, too. Yeah. It's not bad. You liked it?

It's not bad. I mean, it was entertaining, I thought, so. That's what I said, too. Not going to win any Academy Awards, but it was entertaining. Yeah, exactly. Awesome, man. Thank you. All right. Thanks, guys. Baseball. All right. There you go. Trevor's story. He says he's going to put the blinders on.

I get it. Don't tell me. I don't even want to be part of the discussion. I guess he doesn't have any no trade clause or anything. So if you have no say in the matter, I guess just like, yeah, just tell me where you're sending me. I guess. But I do think it's going to be quite impossible for him to blind that out. I think it's going to get pretty loud, pretty fast. And even if there's not real rumors out there, there's going to be a million fake rumors. Yeah. Man, go look at the-

Put down the social media. Yeah, all that good stuff. He can do it. He can find a way. Look at the baseball reference, man. It's no joke in that, you know, finish this year strong. And, boy, is he going to, you know, he might be,

he's going to be financially sound. Yeah? Yes. Yeah. You know, I don't get jealous of a lot of people. I'm jealous. Not bad, man. Story.

Gally. He's good. He plays shortstop his entire freaking life. That's how good he is. Magical, some would say. Coach has begged me to play quarterback and, you know. God damn it. Yeah.

Yeah, I was like starting quarterback for as a sophomore on the Texas high school team. Yeah. He's, nah. Feel different, man. Audible to Cuba keeper got hurt, man. tough. When you started going into like comparing him to Adrian Peterson and when we talked to us already when GM is listened to this or they should be like salivating even more. Yeah. Yes. And you know what else they're going to be salivating for? Magic Spoon cereal. Yes. Go to magic spoon.com slash baseball. We

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In the middle of the season In the middle of an off day Yeah You know there's a player You'd think would kind of Be like nah I'm good for a little bit I would have guessed him It's gonna be a lot of noise

But really cool to have him on I don't know if he said it on air before But he did say like I love the show I listened to it Which maybe he's just buttering us up Or maybe it's real Maybe he's tuned in from time to time During the good stuff

Mainly it's mainly it's me I think he likes But whatever We don't have to talk about this Trevor. I mean, I know you're doing this whole, you know, I'm done. I wasn't great. But, you know, when the GMs come through watching this episode to get Trevor's vibe, they're going to see you there with the stick in your hand and the batting gloves on. Like, I don't know.

He got me pumped. I'm just saying, I'm being serious. I didn't plan on having this on these batting gloves or the bat, whatever. And then he stepped into the Zoom meeting. And I just got, I got fired up. So whatever that means, he's got that personality. And you know the back of his baseball car. Like you said, if you don't go check it out, the guy's a banger. And he got me, you got the juices flowing a little bit.

I think seeing you behind the microphone with the bat in the gloves is going to motivate him to play harder and be like, whoa, I got to, I want to keep playing this game because it looks like pluce losing his mind. Can't end up there. It's not a great look But it is my luck This is that Oh my god

Oh my god I'm on a What was that? I don't know but kind of fit Yeah It's a pop up A little bit All right

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