Talkin' Baseball (MLB Podcast) - 356 | Jomboy Media's June All-League Teams + Jesse Winker

Episode Date: June 30, 2021

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Hello and welcome to talking baseball. It is the midweek episode. We are going to give you the John Boy All-League team. And we had an awesome conversation with maybe All-Star Jesse Winker. Yes, All-Star. Go vote for him, punks. Hello and welcome to Talking Baseball. Thank you very much for joining us today.

My name is Jimmy. I got Jake sitting next to me. I got Trevor in California and BBD producing his big butt away in the corner. brought to you by Draft Kings as always Treve how you doing? I'm doing great Did you just say BVD has a big butt? Well big butt big baby Davis

But I was gonna say his big butt Daway for like BPD But I thought no that wouldn't land Because it doesn't make sense So I took away the D Okay well you look good Is there cinnamon for a way That starts with a D producing

BBD producing his big butt today there's no word there Oh that wasn't another word That was today with a D at the front Yeah well I tried away with a D at the front I'm asking We'll figure it out I'll Google synonyons for away

How you doing Treve? Yeah I'm doing great man We had an excellent conversation With that guy Jess It's a lot of fun Had some fun facts going on there We had an Eskimo brother together

So that's cool But you don't I'm doing good, man. I'm excited to talk about the all league team. This is a very hot topic. Whenever you put this out, Jim, you know, we're going to get some blowback. We're going to get some people applauding you. Some people wanting to call your parents and do whatever they do.

So I'm excited. A lot of people when we do the all league team seem to think that their opinion matters. Ooh. When it's my goddamn team. Well, now it's our team. But like they can make their own. Yeah. Make your own team.

Like don't just get mad at mine. Just make your own and say, here's mine. and then I won't read it and then we'll go on our way. And a cinnamon is his big but elsewhere. Okay. That works. I've been reading this book with Teddy where there's a cop. And in the book, whenever there's a word with an H, he doesn't pronounce the H.

And then words that don't have an H, he puts an H in front of them. It's very hard to read this. The cop does that? Is it a book by Rottie does it? Danny. No, in the book, the cop actually does it. I thought you'd really like that, actually. Did you say it's a role doll book?

Yeah. What's it called? Like Danny? I've read a lot of rolled doll books when I was a kid. Yeah, it's the one of him and his dad, uh, poach pheasants. I don't know if I've read that one. Must have missed it. You think Jimmy would like the H thing because of his speech impediment past, dude?

Yes. That's a little messed up. I'm, I'm with him. I'm pretty mad that I miss this. I once my once went with my aunt. who's a teacher and I said can you buy me all the Roald Doll books and she bought me like a ton I read all of them you know which one I didn't like

Big Friendly Giant I bounced out of that early I think Big Friendly Giant is the sequel to the Danny book I'm not 100% sure on that FG Danny the champion of the world yes yeah that's it nice roll doll by the way go check out his

Wikipedia we always have a baseball reference page just go check out Roll Doll's Wikipedia the guy is like It's pretty crazy. He's done a lot. His adult short stories are graphic, too. Two sides to him. Jake, how are you doing? I'm good.

Obviously, a big role doll fan. That's actually a middle name. Close to my middle name. Just missing an end. I'm good, man. Winker's awesome. Excited to do the all John Boy Media team. People are really going to love the Winker interview.

He let it rip. At one point, he alluded to me being fat. knew my nickname was Rocky. So, I mean, we covered everything. Yeah, everything. It's pretty good. Yeah. Let's get right into this.

There are some that are easy. They cannot be debated. There's other that are a little tougher. So we got to figure some things out. This is brought to you by Roman. Mm. Wow. Roman is, they're working with us big time.

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After April, it was Vladimir Guerrero Jr. After April and May, it was Vladdy Jr. And after April, May and June, the first baseman for the American League, all John Boy Media team is Vladimir Guerrero Jr. Unstoppable. Next. Next. Not a convo. All right.

Second baseman is a combo. I didn't expect it to be. After April, I gave it to Nick Solac. It was real, like, wide open. April plus May, Marcus Simeon was a runaway. April, May, and June, it's tight. And I should say, like, there's two months of June left that we're doing this today because otherwise we would have had it done it on July 7th and no one would have cared anymore.

So, little, we understand that. Two days missing. So maybe this can be decided in the next two days. Yeah. But it's Marcus Simeon. He's there, but Jose Altuva is sneaking up on him. I'm interested to get your thoughts on this, Trevin, Jake. Simeon has a higher war, 3.1 to Altuve's 2.9.

But Altuve has a higher batting average, a higher on base percentage, a higher OPS, a higher OPS plus. Simeon has a higher slugging. Simeon has hit one more home run than Altuva. He has 18. Altuva has 17. Stolen bases, Simeon 9 to 2. It's tight. It's very tight.

So we're going to have to cast a vote, I guess. Treb, what are your thoughts on these two? They are tight. All the statistics are very tight. The one that Marcus does lead him by quite a bit is total basis. And stolen bases, like you're saying. So I think the edge has to go to Marcus. He is leading in Fangraphs war.

He did make the position switch to, which I think's got to count for something, and maybe not necessarily in the voters' eyes, but in my eyes it does, and this is my vote. So I'm going to give it to Marcus, and I will say that Jose, I'm happy to see him having a really good year. 17 homers, I didn't know he had 17 damn homers.

So that even surprised me, but he's been crushing it, but I think Marcus, I think Marcus has the edge. I think that's the right choice. Man, talk about being between two guys here. I, uh, did Al Tuveh get hurt? What's the, what's the game's difference?

Because Simmon, Simian has played nine more games. I know that games difference. Oh, why? Why? Because, uh, if it's just natural rest days, like, part of me leans, Simeon and I don't, looks like natural. So Altuve hasn't been hurt. He's just played nine less games.

And we know the Js run that lineup out there. That's part of the reason we love them. Man, this is as tight as it can be. And I think what I'm leaning, because I wanted to do this with some other positions, like if you were on the team, I kind of want to reward that. There is an injury. I was looking at Simeon.

Okay. It looks like he missed mid-April, April 13th to April 26. You didn't play any time in between that. Dolly G. Will occurs. You know what I'm looking at to cast my vote? I don't know. It's so close that I'm looking at who has more hitless, walkless games. Oh, you love stuff like that.

Loves that. Daily Impact. Yeah. I think that's, I don't think it's crazy to like that, though. It's not. Hitless walkless games. HWG. Mm. Hoog. 14 for simian i think it was less for altouva played less games yeah jake what's your vote

man oh it's 12 for altuva 14 for simian beltuvius for the less games i'm giving it simian yeah i think i'd stay simian i like rewarding guys if you were on the all john boy media team and you you do you have a bit of loyalty yes yes so i think simian stays okay all right that's real That's as tight as it gets. Yeah, I mean, I was searching to make it as balanced as a decision as I could. Congrats to the Blue Jays. They get the right side of the infield after three months. Let's go.

All right. Let's move on to shortstop. This is another conversation in the AL. I gave it to Correa after April. After April plus May, I gave it to Bogarts. And now it's between the two of them. it's it's even closer i think than the last one bogart has a three seven war korea has a three eight war they've both played 74 games i like that they've both had the same exact amount of that bats

i like that so we have a pretty good basis for judging here uh korea has uh or bogarts has a higher batting average um a higher slugging and a higher ops korea has the higher on base percentage which gives him the highest OPS plus as well as the park factor not being in Fenway. So Correa's grounded in a 10 more double plays. Correa has not stolen any bases. Zander has stolen five. Correa's hit more home runs than Xander. Zander's hit more doubles than Correa.

It's so close. Is he a Zander or can he also be a Zonder? Oh. I've always heard Zander. That's him poaching on I on. Well, no, this is, yeah. I'm not saying what you actually pronounce it as I'm saying what we can pronounce it. I kind of want to see him as a Zonder.

Zonder. That probably gets us in trouble because we're Yankee fans. So if you want to do that, Trev, you can. I'm going to go full feel because I can't even, because both of these guys have held down the spot for all drawn by media. Eileen Correa, I think they both provide a similar fear factor offensively in the box. I defensively I would rather have Correa I think he makes some special plays that I don't think Bogart's does so sorry hate me Red Sox fans Wow I'm also going Correa and this is so close you obviously go either way the thing I'm looking at is 43 walks already 43 walks to 53 strikeouts I like that ratio so hit hit list and walkless games it's 10 to 11

Houg. Nuts. Whug. I guess I'd just call them Ophers, like did not. Well, you can reach on error, Fielder's choice, but, man. 10 for Zander, 11 for Correa.

You guys both voted for Correa, so my vote does not matter, but I would have leaned, I don't know. I just saw Correa play shorts up and he made some errors, and I think that's a good insight into how the...

Bogarts or Correa? Bogarts. Sorry. I think that's good insight. to how, like, the beat reporters actually vote for gold glove and shit. Like, well, I saw the two games. The Med Samaras, not him. Like, oh, they played 162.

So I hate that it seeped into my brain. Sure. But Correa, just for his ability to turn a relay. Hmm. For now. He's the best relay turner ever. They send him out to right field, even though he's a shortstop, to turn the relay.

I feel like Boba's shit's close. I've actually seen a few different relays. You've got to earn that. your stripes. Do they send Bo out to shallow right field to turn it? Have you seen when Bo throws what his hair does? It's so nice. Hot. All right, we got an easy one. American League third baseman, all league John Boy team. After April, it was Devers.

After April and May, it was Devers. And after April, May, and June, it is Rafael Devers. He has a 145 OPS plus. He's got a 919 OPS. He's got 19 home runs thus far. He is your starting third baseman for the all-league team. 24 years old. Whoops. All right. This is a fun one, Trev, because I would have bet we would have had movement at this position,

the catcher for the American League. It was Perez after April. After April plus May, I didn't say who we tried. shows. Who do we choose? I think we ultimately picked Zanino, but it was... I voted for Perez and you guys voted for debate. We picked Zanino and then Salvi Perez, the next two games after the episode hit multi-homer games.

So it looked like Salvi was a listener that was about to run away. But... Yeah, yeah, yeah. The cream rised. Let me delete Perez from that so I don't... So I remember next month. The... No Zanino had a terrible month, I thought.

At least he was having a terrible month. but the overall numbers, he's top of the list. It's Mike Zanino. He's got a 134 OPS plus, highest among the catchers, 834 OPS, highest among the catchers, 16 home runs. He hung tough. I didn't see that coming. Z.

The catcher position is so strange, dude. It is so strange. It's all going to change when they get robo-ums. That entire position is going to change. And we're going to see a bunch of bangers, back there. I mean, the start of the month for Zanino was awful. He was 2-4-24 in his first 10 games. But he did pick it up a little bit in his last seven that helped him balance it out. He's been good his last eight games. Four more home runs, one dot OPS. So Zanino gets it. It was

close, but. And the ale catching is starting to get fun. Trev's former student, Gary Sanchez has gotten going. Sean Murphy out in Oakland, a guy that, a lot of people like coming in the season. Slow start. He's starting to go, I think, on both sides of the ball. So that, that's going to be, that position will change next month. Dock it? Okay, I like it.

All right. Do you think, real quick, sorry, do you think, I'm being serious about this? Robo Zone comes in, catchers don't have to worry about framing, none of that stuff. Nobody on base. They're trying to save their legs so they can be hitters. Do you think we're going to see anybody just like literally sitting down on their butt? Bucket. Jake has said that...

There will be a bucket under catchers in our lifetime. I think Jake said that two years ago. New savers will be back. Yeah. I think there's going to have a little chair. A little catcher chair. They're not going to have a chair. They're going to have a chair.

They're going to do something. They're going to do something. This position is going to look completely different in whatever it is, three or four years, whenever the Roblooms come in. All right. So in outfielders, we don't do by position, just three outfielders. After April, it was Buxton Trout, Cedric Mullins after April and May, it was Adelis Garcia, Aaron Judge, and Ramon Luriano.

After April, May, in June, Cedric Mullins back on top. He has the highest OPS plus, the highest OPS, the highest war of all American League outfielders, which is kind of crazy, good for him. Next up is Aaron Judge, and then Jake and I put Adelis Garcia third. We both kind of looked at it, and both our brains said, well, it's Adelis. So that's the three. Any thoughts there? I love the Cedric Mullen story.

Just stopped hitting right-handed. Yeah. Done. Like that's awesome to me. So I'm happy. That's a great storyline. I hope he gets to start in the All-Star game. I saw somewhere he's not even a finalist, which is kind of crazy.

So if you're watching this, go vote for Cedric Mollins in the All-Star game because it's wild that he's not. He's leading in everything. Yeah. I'd be able to. I don't know. Well, it's the all-star game, not the all-league team. Yeah, it's not the Jam. So that's why Otani doesn't make it.

I think Mowens is a finalist for outfielders, but I don't think he currently has it. Oh, okay. He's the starting spot. Oh, is he? He's a finalist, but that means he's one of the nine outfielders. And then we'll mention Otani, because obviously he needs to be mentioned,

but like he didn't, like, per position doesn't, I don't. What do we do? Do we put, can he be like the third? outfielder? I don't care. Like can you put him over at a lease? It's not a utility.

You put a utility guy there. It's not. That's what's awesome about Otani is he's literally making you create a brand new category because we don't know how to put him in an All-Star team because he's not the best DH. He's not the best pitcher, but he's the best player. Like he's the MVP. Yeah, I mean, he's on the list.

I put him on the list so people wouldn't cry. but like I don't know where you put him because like well you can put him at DH if we want to DH he's got better numbers than JD DH I just looked at his numbers I didn't know he had a one daughter He's sick no he's awesome

Yeah put him at DH 180 miles an hour off the bat yesterday DH Otani boom Easy peasy lemon squeamy Kyle Gibson is our starting pitcher El Rond Gibby has the best DRA And that's kind of

all that matters when you look at results of pitching. He also has the most game started out of the top three. It's like Lance Lynn, Rodone, and Rodon, and... Lynn, Cole. Gibby, yeah. So, Gibby's a start. Gibby. Ghibie's a full half war ahead of everybody else, according to baseball reference.

Yeah, and, yeah. All right, Jake, you want to walk us to the National League? National League, couple spots weren't up for discussion. Buster Posey behind the dish. still doing it. How's your 968 OPS? Jesus. Nuts. Max Muncie, that funky Muncie, still has first base, locked up a three war. And he had it after last month, too. Yeah, running it back. Those guys kind of weren't up for discussion.

The same two guys at second base are up for discussion, and this is where I was referencing my going with what we went with. Second base, Adam Frazier in the Cron zone, our neck and neck. Last month we went with Frazier because the offensive stats do speak louder. It's a 330 batting average, $3.99 on base,

871 OPS, a 142 OPS plus. That being said, Croninworth is right there, a 137 OPS plus. He has a 3,000. power. He's got 12 homers. Frazier has four. Same amount of play appearances, which we decided we liked earlier. My heart leans Frazier, just because in today's baseball, to have a 3.30 batting average, that speaks a little bit. I think it's still flip a coin, and that's where I wanted to

pass, let Frazier stay for now. Cron, you've got to take it. Cronerworth has 17 no-hit, no-walk games, and Frasier. had like 10 or 11 so he wins my stat. Luke. Yeah. So you're taking, you guys are both taking Frazier?

Yeah. And I, it's not crazy. Like, he's, he's higher. I mean, I think I would have leaned

Crohn, I would have leaned with him. But you can't go wrong with either of these guys. Because of the home runs? Uh, probably just like you talked about Jim.

I've seen him play more. Okay. I've seen him make some awesome plays. I did some breakdowns and some of the stuff that the Padres do. So, I've just seen him more. Yep.

That's where I don't know. Frazier's day and out defense versus Crohn's own. Frazier's numbers, I mean, he's got 330 batting average, almost a 400 OBP. He is higher in all of those numbers and he's got less, whatever we're calling my walks hits, no walks hits. Frazier stays. He was there. Okay. He moves on.

A guy named Nando at shortstop. We had to look back to see if he did have it last month because he knew he started taking off. He did and he's just flat out run away with it. A 697 slugging, Trev, 1.074 OPS. The dude is sick in the head. 200 OPS plus. He's a monster. It's him and Vladdy running away with the offensive numbers like across all of baseball.

And they're young, people have stated. We have another funky one at third base. I have another lean on it. I'll try not to give it away. Third base in the National League, we have decided, for now, Chris Bryan is going back. He played eight games at third base this month. We're not being fully influenced by the All-Star voting,

but he has played some third base. And it's actually his most played single position. He has equal splits between left field and right field. Chris Bryant has technically, played his most games at a single position at third base. So it comes down to Chris Bryant, Nolan Aronado, and Justin Turner,

bootstrap Bill's boy, just out of nowhere doing JT thing. So I'll let you guys talk about it. I have a slight lean, but it's open. I like Turner. He's got all the numbers. All offensive numbers.

I mean, not all, but, Yeah, I don't know, man. This is another really tough. Turner could pick it too, right? Eileen Turner as well. Glue guy, too. Not just a performer on the field, good clubhouse guy, been there, reigning champ, like, Turner all the way, man.

He's got less hitless, walkless as well. Turner picks it, not at Aeronado's level, obviously. He makes plays. And, yeah, I mean, Nolan, like, it's there for the taking and you haven't taken it. So I love JT there. People are talking about that Dodgers infield. Yeah, no one's got the doubles and the home runs. No one's going to have a big second half.

You got to win it, though, kid. I like Turner. I mean, he's got the slash line. Turner stays. How about Posey, Muncie, Monsey, Frazier, Tatease Turner. Round the horn there. Love that. And then in the outfield, I do think there is three that stand out.

There is one guy punching from the outside. But Castellanos, Acuna, and Winker. And Brian Reynolds, holy Toledo, did he have a month with a little 311, 397, 925 OPS? He is there for discussion. And what happened last month, we had Castellanos Winker Bryant, with Bryant going to third. that could have taken all the Acuna lovers out of the comment section. But I don't know, guy.

I mean, there's a Brian Reynolds argument probably, but I'm not into it. If you look at Chris Bryant as an outfield, or these three are better than him, right? Yes. Yeah, okay. Also true. So that makes it easier to do this. Yeah, for me, it's the Reds and the Cunia.

And that's a fun little outfield. Yeah. I hate just doing that because, you know, I just haven't watched any of the Pirates games. And I feel like that's tough, but it's also their fault. So I will say yes. Call up Co-Tuck. I'll start freaking watching. But I will say, yes, two Reds and a Brave.

I'm in. Offensively, I think it's easy. I think Brian Reynolds, awesome for you to enter this conversation, dude. And if you do another month of that, like, I think you're going to have it. Because the offensive stats there, and I think, you know. Oh, shit. He's like a way better player than I. Yeah, man.

He. I remember the pretty freaking good player. He's a ball player. How about the Pirates having two? Him and Key Brian. And, well, we'll see what they do with Frazier, but they have some pieces. Like if they, Cole Tucker. Jake, you didn't vote for your Vandy boy?

I mean, Trev, I want Brian to keep going. Castiano's and Winker. we're there. They hold, they stay. Winners stay. Winners stay. You gotta get beat. Yeah.

You got to get beat. What do they say? Go doors. Go doors. VU. Go doors. Say doors down. Anchor the fuck down.

Mm. Yeah. Wow. DeGrom's your National League starter. Gibby all day. Good. And we scrapped.

believers because that's boring. We'll do them at the end of the year. Have a season. So there you go. Go get mad. Get mad. Tweet all your angry comments at Big Baby David David. Managers.

Managers. Gabe Kapler. But elsewhere. Gabe Kapler, both teams. Yep. That's exactly the answer I was looking for. Gabe. Well, actually it's Philly Gabe is going to manage the AL.

Hey, come on. Well, you know the difference because of the sunglasses. Yeah. There was a, this is a deep cut that you guys don't know. There was a season of MTV's The Challenge where CT was split personality during the competitions. He was like A aviators and like athletic wear and like a big mean guy. And then in the house, he would wear reading glasses and flannel buttonups and read books and talk all quietly. That's Gabe Kapler, Philly Gabe, San Francisco Gabe, two different parts of his personality coming out.

Yeah. Can I make one point before we end the show? Yeah. Before we kick it to Jesse. Joe Girardi, you guys told me was a bullpen whisperer. He's now resided over two of the worst bullpens in MLB history. So he's not a bullpen whisperer. I didn't say he could create bullpen talent.

I said it when he has it. Jimmy kind of said that. I never really said anything. Well, I mean, he was known. Turns out it helps when you have Mariano O'era in your bullpen. That's what it turns out. And all the setup guys. But yeah.

He was good at keeping him fresh. That was like his best skill. It was. It's a big worry now. It was never a worry. All right. Next up, a chat with John Boy Media, All-League outfielder for the National League.

Jesse Winker. Do do-do-do-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo. Baseball. We are joined by you may know him from the Cincinnati Reds. You also may know him from the riders. We are joined by Jesse Winker. Jesse, what's up, dude? Vroom, Vroom, brother.

How are you guys doing? What's up? Shout out the riders. Shout out the riders. We're good. We want to join the riders. Can you maybe explain us a little more? Because we have it written down on paper,

but I feel like the words would help. Yeah, so I'm not the... I'm not the guy who's going to accept you. It goes down to Tucker Barnhart, Sunny Gray, and Wade Miley, and Gino Suarez. You have to come on a ride. You have to either get us on the road or come to Cincinnati, and we have to go get on these lime or bird scooters, and we have to see how you ride, how you get, how you move in and out of traffic and how you adjust adversity. It's a very, very exclusive group.

but everybody is a rider so just think about that for a second and you know we're welcome to new members so if you really want to be a part of the riders you know where we'll we'll accept you but you just have to come you know play the part now for anyone that's not caught up on the riders you guys when you go city to city

pick up the scooters for the for the duration of the you know the series and that's how you transport to and from the games, correct? No. Okay. False. Okay. Some cities like Denver, where's another one?

Colorado was like one of the original cities where we started riding. But anywhere that has the stadium close to the hotel, we'll ride. But if not, like St. Louis, you can't ride those scooters from, you know, where do we stay? Over in Clayton, over to downtown St. Louis. It's just too far, so you have to take the bus. But if you're riding the bus, you're still a rider. And, you know, so we wake up in the morning. We'll go ride around the, like, the city and go to breakfast.

And that's kind of where it started. And it's cool. And everybody who is in the rider, I guess will say gang, because I don't want to say club. You know, they've done the part and they've gone on a ride with us in the morning. So what? I got to say. What brand are you using? sorry like because when jake was a lift guy i was a bird whatever they're called so we're i used lime

a couple guys have used bird when we're out in san diego oh san diego is another great one to ride to the field it's one of the best arguably one of the best rides i've ever been on was in san die um but uh there's one out there called it's be e oh and they actually had seats on them which was pretty dope i'm not going to lie but i would love for like lime or bird or somebody to kind of to just sponsor the riders it'd be it'd be unbelievable we have our little cincinnati riders logo and we have bat decals on our bats it's a you know it's a really big deal everybody's starting to do our little i guess sign um it's uh we got it going on so go ahead trev okay sorry i just i have to bring it full circle here because when i was in cincinnati and i think i was with the fillies at the time

I birded all over downtown Cincinnati, and you're going to love this. I ended up at the mall or like Nordstroms or something. Guess who I run into there. Tucker freaking Barnhart. Tucker B. Member of the riders. Yeah, OG rider. So I feel like maybe I'm already part of the rider since that happened.

We clarify then. Yeah, I had to ask. But that's okay. You guys are, you know, you guys are podcasters. You know, that's your thing. That's your, that's your thing. And we're the riders. So, um, I thought everyone's a writer though.

Well, everyone rides. Everyone rides. Not everyone's a writer. There you go. There you go. I'm in now. I get it. No, you're not still not in.

You're not in that. Well, but I just, Tucker remembers that beautiful shopping experience we had together. So whatever. I still have that. Yeah, you guys were shoppers in that moment, not riders. Not, not riders. Unless you were riding around on a scooter in the mall, which no one thinks you were. Probably illegal.

Wouldn't suggest that. But you're not a rider. So has there been a teammate? I have two questions. One, has there been a teammate, wanted to be a rider, got himself a scooter, and you guys were so iffy about his form, the way he handled traffic? Oh, man. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. There is one. And he just comes right to mind. You know, it kind of hurts me to say this. but it's a mere Garrett. Wow. He's too big. He's way too big.

It's a big body on the scooter, but he's a rider. He's in. He's in. He is in. It just took him a little bit extra time to get in. He had a couple slip-ups. I'm not going to expose him on this,

but he is officially a rider. He's a part of it. But it just took him a little bit of time, but it was a big, that's a big frame on a scooter. And if there's like extensions, like handlebar extensions, he could be a prime candidate for the, Riders not a big man's game. I get that.

It's tough, man. It's tough. Before we get to some serious stuff, we're going to get you to the All-Star game. Vote and everyone's going to go vote for you. We're going to talk about that. I didn't prep you for this question, so watch out. Did you prep them for others? What are you prepping? I didn't prep.

I didn't prep anything. I didn't get the sheet. I need a genuine reaction here. If there was a text or an email, you sent it to the wrong guy. I need a genuine reaction here, okay? I ask everybody who's teammates with this guy about him, and I need a general reaction, a genuine reaction. Tell me about Scott Heinenman.

Tell me what kind of guy he is. Look at that. He, okay. Yeah, he's awesome. Heineman is awesome. I think the best way to describe him is he's an electric factory. Yes, he is. Yeah, he's awesome, man.

He's a great guy, great energy. and a great baseball player on top of that. You know, a fun guy to be around. And he's a good time, man. He's a good dude. I like a big fan of Scott Heinemann for sure. He's going to love that. And he does some batting stances, man.

Have you seen his batting stances? They are phenomenal. So he's a good one. Okay. He'll love that. Well, we covered Heinemann. We covered the riders. We could talk a little bit of baseball.

And then we'll get to Trev's other serious topics. I can talk riders for a little bit longer. Yeah. Oh, dude. I used to charge scoots, bro. Don't even bring up my riding history. Yeah, well, what if you guys run into another team and they're riding as well? We're off the riders for now.

Is there an anchorman scene? No, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a standoff. I would love for anybody to come try the riders. That's all I want to say. Okay. I would love it.

I would love nothing more than that. Well, not if Amir is there. Nobody wants that. Yeah, I'm not. He's a rider. Amir's a rider. So if anybody wants to mess with him, just, you know, mess with the riders, you know, you're going to, Amir is going to be there.

We're going to get you to Denver for the All-Star game. Our entire company is going to be there. We'll be forming a rider posse. You form an All-Star crew, and maybe we'll meet up somewhere in Denver. Street fight. Yeah. I don't know. Okay.

We'll call that a maybe. RSVP maybe. It's heavy note. Okay. Still pencil in the maybe. Jesse, you can hit, dude. we are baseball nerd. You mentioned Trevor Plouf is known as a podcaster.

That's all we are. None of us did anything before this. Dude, your baseball reference is a form of pornography for a lot of baseball fans. I mean, dude, $2.9.3.85, 890 OPS as a 27-year-old. And, like, man, you know, we said it earlier this year, and now people are starting to learn because, you know, the Reds, the riders, and Castellanos is doing it too.

And like, dude, you can hit, bro. Like, how's it going this year? Does this feel like, you know, last year you had the 60 games and you put it together for all 60, but it was a 60 game season. Does this year feel like the Jesse Winker year? Do you already feel like fully established? I don't know what the question is. I think first off I'm going to say thank you I feel like I have to say thank you for everything

I appreciate that and in regards to everything else I don't I don't know um you know I just feel like on the back half of 2019 so the second half of 2019 I started to make some adjustments at the plate And I kind of just, you know, I kind of just started, I had some guidance, you know, from our coaching staff in 19 and, you know, and then in 20 as well. And I just started kind of, you know, figuring, like, tinkering with things and trying to make it kind of my own, I guess. And then with that and then just some things, you know, with playing the game, you learn about yourself, you learn about opposing teams, you learn about opposing pitchers. You know, I want to just say it's a culmination of everything. And then just getting older. and a little bit more mature, just a little bit more mature, not a lot. You know, I just think it's those things all in one and just trying to compete every day and be a tough out. I like that. You definitely are.

I did a breakdown of some of the mechanical change you did because not only am I a podcast, I'm also a YouTube star. Yeah, hold on. And I see we're going back to the podcaster thing. Obviously, Trevor, I know your career as well. It was fun to watch you do your thing. and I hope we're all not going to get offended by that. No, I'm not offended at all.

Okay. Thank you for that. But no, I obviously noticed the mechanical changes prior to 2020. You're a little bit more crouched down, kind of like more of a standard batting, you know, stance. And now you have like the thing that I always tell people, you can tell when a guy's confident in himself because you're just kind of leaning back now. You're more upright. And when you guys get more upright, that just means they're like confident in lockdown. Was there like a specific moment where you're like, fuck it, I'm just going to go do this?

Like what prompted that change in your stance? So last year, we're in Cleveland. And in 19, I started standing up taller, like you said. And in 20, we're in Cleveland. And I was close. Like, I was on some pitches. I was just missing. And we're in Cleveland.

And it was actually a game. I remember Clevenger was pitching. And it kind of started there. I kind of just started going, like you said, I used to crouch forward. So I started going, you know, I'm going, let's go the opposite way. Like, I'm just going to lean back. And it was just like a comfort thing, a feel thing. And I really liked it.

And then we went to Milwaukee after that. And we came home and played Kansas City right after that. And it kind of just, I just stuck with it. Like it just, you know, for me as a hitter, I said this the other day. Like, I just want to stand in the box as comfortable as I can on a daily basis. And for me, I just, I feel like that allows me to have to give the best chance for, hold on, it gives me my best chance to have a great A B by doing that. And that's all I'm trying to do is just give a great AB.

Obviously, it's, it's a, it's a very, very challenging sport. And I just want to try to be as competitive as I can on a daily basis. And I feel like that provides me my best shot. I love that. Beautiful. The Reds have been a hodgepodge for characters in the last three years. and like crazy storylines. I mean, you have Votto, you had Pweed come through, you had Bauer come through,

you have Amir, like you were saying, yourself, you've had some fun with fans. You got Castellanos now. How is that, I mean, we heard the Amir Garrett quotes and the Votto quotes, you know, about like being swaggy and all that stuff, but how much do you guys lean into that? How much do you have you enjoyed having all these characters come through the clubhouse last? couple years or be in the club house. It's been, it's been great. You know, every guy you mentioned is, you know, fun, fun to play along, like fun,

fun to play alongside and, you know, great to learn from. And, and, you know, it's, it's a good time. But, you know, we all want to win games. We all want to get back to the playoffs. And, you know, we got a taste of it last year. And that's what this game's about is getting, getting into the postseason and giving yourself a chance to win a ring. So we're all.

all kind of focused on that goal and just trying to win, win as much as we can in the meantime. Is there a guy that I didn't mention that, you know, maybe the public doesn't know. And you're like, well, actually, that dude in the clubhouse is the funniest or the most out there or wild guy. The funny, one of the, let me tell you, Wade Miley is one of the funniest teammates I've ever been around in my life. He's, he's not this like, he's not like a crazy guy or anything, but he's just hilarious. You know, he's done it at a high level for a really, really long time. You know, he threw a no-no earlier in the year. He's just an unbelievable teammate and a really, really awesome guy to be around and brings a lot of energy, especially on his start days.

And he keeps telling me, he's going to hit a ball into the Allegheny River when we're at home. When we're at home. I keep telling him, that's not the Allegheny River. I'll prove you wrong one. I need that. Yeah. You know, so if he hits it into the Allegheny standing at home plate in Great American, I'd be really impressed. I don't even know how far that is or what he has to do to get it there, but it'll be cool.

Jeez. Wade having a hell of a year, too. Go get it. Wade Miley Pot. How about it? Yeah, he's an absolute stud, man. He's fun. Was there a moment this year? It's June 1st. You guys go, it's, you guys are 24 and 29. was there any like looking around because that's you know June that's when teams start talking trade stuff like that you guys reel off I think you go 11 and 2 something like that you know was there any looking around or was there any change in the clubhouse dynamic or is it more what what you're saying I mean day in day out go do your thing and trust it and you're going to get wins I think I think you just hit the nail on the head there was there wasn't ever

really there was no I don't want to like there There was no panic by any means, but there's obviously some, we wanted to start winning, right? Being 24 and 29 isn't what we wanted to do. So we kind of just started, you know, doing the extra little things it took to win some games. You know, there was big moments in all of those games, whether it was a hit or a defensive play or a strikeout or a block ball or something was happening that, you know, the ball was kind of just bouncing our way. And that's baseball, right? So you don't get, you don't get too high and you don't get too low. it's it's so cliche but it's so true right especially with a 162 game season you know coming off last

year where it was such a sprint you know this is obvious we're back in the marathon now so it's just kind of keep chipping away at it and um you know you can't go on a winning street without winning the day anyway so that was kind of just what we were doing it was just kind of task at hand and you know playing some good baseball love that are you excited to go back to city field i can't wait um Do you think the fans have a memory? Do you think that like, you know? I mean, that was damn near three years. I know, but yeah, yeah.

It was May of 2019, but I looked. I was like, has he been back since? So if anyone doesn't remember that you haven't, haven't, but you guys won on a, like a nice catch to end the game and you wave goodbye to the crowd. The next day you get ejected in the crowd waves goodbye to you. And that's the last time you've been there. So I wonder if that's obviously the broadcast,

will be reminding people. But I wonder if, you know, the fans in the outfield will remember. And it should be pretty fun. It should be fun. You should wave hello. I think to just like acknowledge it, soften the blow and like just say like, let's do it again and just wave hello as you take the field. You think, is that what you think I should do?

Yeah. I think then it's like playful. That are double birds. Yeah. The double bird play. The double bird. Yeah. Yeah, you know what? It was a really, it was a fun little exchange. New York, I love New York City. New Yorkers are awesome and I appreciate the banter. But yeah, like you said, they clearly won that one. I was the one that got ejected and they got the last laugh. It was a lot of fun though. You know, I'm looking forward to, I love City Field. I love going there and playing. It's always a great atmosphere. They obviously have a really, you know, outstanding.

team and it'll be fun to play there for sure and you know if they want to wave to me i'll i'll definitely have to give them a wave and a smile back you know it was uh it was a good time for sure not a scooter city though i think i want to find the reds splits scooter city versus non-scooter city yeah wow i like that you know we were talking about that yesterday so thank you for the memo it's not a scooter city yeah no if they put scooters in like manhattan or new york city it would just be a lot a lot of dead people every day. That's sad and dark, and this took a turn. What about travel?

What if we had portable travel electric scooters? I think you can get from like the chop shots in the park lot to... I've been eyeing one myself. Yeah, Jake has been out. The only part of my walk, I live right above a subway station. So to get to the office, there is like a little uphill climb. And I go to a Dunkin' Donuts sometimes. I would love to leave a scooter there.

and just drive it up and down the hill. They are getting more popular in the city, the personal ones, but having lived in Denver, it would be a dangerous game if those were just on street corners. Like people, it would be a bad time. Yeah, you're right. No, there's a lot of people, you know, jammed in there. That's a good point.

But, you know, do your thing. And maybe, maybe if Duncan Donuts is an everyday thing, you know, maybe that walk up to Duncan isn't a bad play, you know? I like that's just. Thank you. This is, you know, this is just. water weight. I believe it.

I hear you got a big fight coming up so we can cut that. One good sweat. One good sweat. Drag the bike into the steam room. Very body confident. He's good. Enough about me.

Next question, Rocky Bellbow. What else you got for me? I got it all, man. We have some questions from our patrons. We have some patrons that support us. And we always tell them who we're going to be chatting with and give them a chance to ask some questions.

So this is, this comes from Nate Steele, who's our resident angels fans. It's an easy one. He says, is the wink emoji your favorite or least favorite emoji? Oh, classic,

classic one. It's last name's Winker. Yes. You know, I like it. It's cool. I like the winking emoji. It's not my favorite emoji,

but, you know, it's whatever. It works. Yeah, what's your favorite? Eggplant, right?

Nice. No, not. Probably the, I like the fire emoji. I think that's good one. I think, you know, I like the 100. It's probably my two most frequently used emojis. Try to stay away from them. Those are just good times. That's why.

Yeah, the Cincinnati Reds are fire and 100 emoji for sure. I see that being sent a lot in the group text. Boom, boom. It's a positive vibe, you know, the positive vibe emoji right there. This question from Sam to Deshi kind of goes with the Mets stuff. Is there any specific fan interaction heckles you remember from over the years? And what's typically a rowdy or crowd MLB outfield fans or minor league outfield fans on Dollar Beer night? Oh, yeah.

So that's a great question. There's a couple. So we just played in San Diego. That was a good. They were at full capacity. I think they had 45,000 people at the games when we were. were there and that's that's a lot of people and it was you know really really cool fan interactions there you know really good crowds to be honest with you the more people it's kind of hard to hear

because there's a constant buzz so you know they're yelling things at you and i'll turn around and they'll be like you know making hand gestures at me and i'll be like i don't know what you're saying i can't really hear you i'm not here to hear you i'm actually here to play right um but no it's it's usually always you know the classic the classic the classic classic, you know, stuff. Dollar beer night in the, in the bushes was definitely interesting. You get some college kids out there that, you know, those college tough guys out there in the outfield, of course. After all, the Met stuff, Kevin Clancy from Barstool, he was, you know, he got on me pretty good. It was really funny. I'd like to go on his, I think he has a podcast.

I'd like to go on his podcast one day and chop it up and we could talk about that. I guess kind of, you know, put water under the bridge there and move on from it once in for all. Yeah, more water on the bridge. Yeah, unless you get it. You know, the bridge is going smooth. Let's just leave the water off the bridge for a while, you know. We're good. No, but he, I remember the Mets, the Mets stuff was, was hilarious. They, uh, I'm pretty sure there's a couple Mets fans who called my parents and like Prank called my parents. Yeah, I don't even know how they got their numbers, but that was pretty cool. Um, you know, it was, It's always been fun for me.

You know, I'm the, I have two older brothers. So growing up, you know, we were kind of always talking shit to each other. And it's just kind of how I was raised, you know, playing sports in the neighborhood with everybody. So it's just still, I guess it's just me having fun, you know. They, they were ballplayers as well? Yeah, my oldest brother, he went to Mercer and then he got drafted by the Dodgers. And he played a little bit. He could hit, but he just dealt with some fluke injuries.

And then my other brother, Ryan, he played, but he's dealt with Crohn's disease for most of his life. So it was kind of hard for him to, you know, pursue baseball with dealing with Crohn's disease. But, you know, they're both great. You know, they're both, they're both awesome dudes. And, you know, they support me. And, you know, I wouldn't be here without it. So I appreciate both of them. What's the bloodline?

Is dad a ball player, too? Dad, mom and dad both love baseball. But there's no bloodline. I guess I'm the blood mine. I think about it. But every, I wouldn't be here without the four people we just mentioned. You know, there was so much sacrifice for me, especially early on. You know, when you're in high school, all the travel ball and all the circuit stuff,

it's a lot of money, you know, to kind of be able to go around the country and play baseball. And, you know, my family made it happen for me. and I look forward to kind of getting to repay them for that because I'm forever grateful for that. And I'm lucky that I had such, I have such a good core of people behind me kind of pushing me. Trev, you're a big bro guy. I mean, did you,

do you ever get prank calls to your parents' house? What's speaking to you right now? I never pissed any fan bases off enough that they looked up my parents' phone number. That's for sure. I don't know how they, I still, I don't know how they figured that out. I don't know how that. Yeah.

Yeah, they got them. Maybe it was your folks. Maybe they leaked it just to get a little, maybe they wanted to feed off of it. Maybe it was like old beef from like, you know, another parent in school. They got out the 2004 buzz book and called your parents up. Yeah, I don't know. Under the guise of hatred. Yeah, I don't know how they got it, but it was impressive.

You know, it's one thing like if you could go in the phone book, like you mentioned, look up like our house phone, but we don't have those anymore. Yeah. You know, so the fact that they found, you know, my parents' cell phones, not cell phone numbers. That was pretty cool. But, you know, shout off whoever did that. I still don't know who did it, but good, good by you. It's always weird.

You want. I got a call from a private number the other day, and it was just porn. They're just holding their phone up to porn. You know, this is the second time you guys mentioned porn. That was my phone. I'm starting to figure out what you guys are about. Well, Jake was just talking about him pleasing him. himself to your stats earlier on.

So I don't know, you know. How'd you know my nickname was Rocky? Yeah, how did you know that? That's another thing. Oh, he just called you Rocky Bob-Bah. No, no, no. My nickname is Rock. Trivia question.

You and Trevor Plouf, I cross-checked both your books. Wow. There's one name in both of your books. Oh, wow. Either of you have any guesses. Let's see. American League or National League? Well.

Okay. I don't know. I don't know. the years. So. We didn't cross over too much. False. That helps.

Helpful tips so far. Your first year was seven. Your first year was 17, right? Yeah. And that was when I started to just be very bad. But there's still some pitchers that are still pitching, Treve. Yeah. I, I have no idea, man.

All right. He's in the, um. How about lefty or righty? That might be a good one. All right. Well, he's a righty and he is currently in the American. League. James, I've hit so many home runs.

How am I supposed to just do one? Hold on. Yeah, I don't, I'm going to try to guess this. Brighty and the American League. Hell right. Been around a little while. I can give you, you know what I'll do? I'll give you dates.

Ooh. Yeah. Oh, yeah, this might actually help. All right. Unlike the other. Wanker, you clipped them in 2020. So I'll just go years first. Okay.

Trev, you clipped them in 2011. Oh, so we've got some range. My God, I was a junior in high school. 2011. So it's got to be. I was, I was a junior in high school and you were hitting show pumps. That's right, baby.

That's right, baby. That's what to do. Jesse, you got him on a first pitch. O-O count. Trev won two count, and yours was to give your team the lead. And mine was in 2020? Yeah. I got no idea, man.

Hold on. I didn't hit that many in 2011. He's got a lot of kids and a lot of charities, I believe. A lot of kids and a lot of charities. It's not Crow Marty. That was good. I don't know.

No. He's on the Rangers right now. When you clipped him, he was on the Royals, Jesse. Treb, when you clipped him, he was on the Diamondbacks. Oh, yeah, I got him. you know? I pumped them far too.

Who is he, Treve? I did the shit out. Ian Kennedy. Yep. Oh, wow. Nice. Nice. Nice.

I took a change piece deep. It was in Arizona. The ball freaking flies or at least it used to. Yeah. So that's your, that's you guys share him. It's your Eskimo, bro. Wanker, you got Kyle Hendricks and Trev, you got Kyle Kendrick, which is close, but not the same guy.

So we might half count that guy, that one. And anything else? We got to go over like a teammate that we also need to vote for for the All-Star game or just like if you're going to give one red vote, it goes to Jesse Winker and no one else. How do you want to? No. No, it should go to it should go to Castiano's for sure, man. That guy is day in and day out. He's a special, special player to watch on both sides of the ball and on top of that base running as well.

You know, I've learned a lot from him. a big fan of him man he's uh he's uh he's awesome and on top of that he's got an outstanding family i've gotten to you know gotten the opportunity to get to know them and um you know they're they're great people so it should really go to him he's he's he's awesome man he's he's outstanding he told chris rosa that he doesn't have a smartphone got a flip phone is he just on the outskirts of all the team group chats and like when you share videos with each other and inside jokes is he just like constantly like what are you guys talking about i don't know no he's uh he's uh he He's in the loop, man. He's, he's cool. It is funny, though, because we will get a text, like, a team. We have a WhatsApp. Yeah. And we'll get, like, a schedule for the day. And, you know, he'll come up to me or whoever. He'll be like, so what time's arrival time tomorrow? And I'll just say that point. Like, oh, yeah, right. You know, whenever. Whenever. He hasn't convinced you to ditch the smartphone?

Actually, we were just talking about that yesterday, him and I. I've thought about it. I've thought about it. And the only thing I really need a smartphone for now that I think about it is I like to FaceTime my daughter. But you could do that from, you know, you could do that from an iPad. So I really like, I really like the concept of a of no smartphone anymore, you know, going to a flip phone. For me, I was telling them I'd go to a sidekick because I just like how it opens. It felt like somebody wants to.

Spector Gadget with a sidekick. That was cool. Actually, you know what, Jake, now that I think about you, you probably got one stored away somewhere. So if you just want to throw it my way, I'm sure if you go in a junk drawer or drawers or whatever you got going on, just send one my way. And, you know, I would like to use that. Junk drawers is also a nickname of mine. No, if the Cincinnati Reds go full non-flip phone or non-smart phone, I'm all in. I'm a Reds fan.

You don't want that. Yeah, that's true. He claimed himself a Diamondbacks fan and they lost every single game. franchise a little bit. So, you know, I saw that. So I kind of follow you guys from a distance.

I was one of the original, when you guys were doing talking yanks before you blew up, I would actually go watch and listen, believe it or not. Yeah. So. Love that. I was one.

Yeah. And then you guys blew up into this whole thing. And now, you know, it's kind of a full circle moment for me here. And I get to look at your beautiful art on the wall. That's a crime scene. That's a crime scene where someone sends us mail every week and we don't know who it is.

We're trying to connect some dots. If I come up, you guys are doing a good job connecting those dots. It looks very organized and well done. Two suspects, both employees. And I mean, yeah, you know, I don't want to tie this in too much with the Yanke. But you and Trevor Plouf have the same favorite player growing up, Derek Jeter. That's pretty cool.

I think that's like everybody ever. Yeah. It's probably your two favorite players. But you didn't have like 10 posters like Trev did. Yeah. I had their mocking me right now, Jesse. I actually, I have one, I have one, I had one Jeter poster, a couple Jeter jerseys. But like, who didn't like Jeter?

What was the poster? His fist pump at short or him touching the speech as he walked down the tunnel? Which one? I think it was just him standing in the box, to be honest. Oh, okay. Yeah, just, you know, the classic, you know, maybe the hand up, yeah. Oh, the hand. Yeah, just the, um, um, him standing in the box, man.

And it was cool. I got to meet him one time and I was like, I was speechless. You know, he's a, you know, he was a, he was a really, really cool dude. But I met him my first offseason ever, right after short season. And I was training at this gym in Tampa. And he walked in. And, you know, he kind of talked to the group of minor leaguers there very briefly. It was really cool. And then I was just like, wow. Like, I remember texting everybody in my family. Like, I just met Jeter. But I really didn't. You know, he just came and talked to him. But I acted like, yeah. I was like, yeah, I just met Jeter. Yeah. Trev, all your fond Jeter stories? Derek was always nice to me. I just, you guys. First name basis. You made this into a thing where like everyone thinks I hate Derek Jeter. I just, I don't love him as much as everybody else.

That's all. I'm a Mike Piazza, Ozzie Smith guy. Those are my favorite players growing up. Wow. Wow. Offense and defense. I just brought the vibe down a little bit. I was, hey, I was a, wait.

I was a big Paul O'Neill fan growing up to Paul O'Neill, David Cohn, had a David Cohn jersey. David Cohn's the best. Yeah. Yeah, so I grew up. I grew up. My dad was a diehard Yankee fan. So shout out Mr. Winker. But I kind of just grew up a fan of baseball and especially a fan of, like, left-handed hitters as I got older.

When Josh Hamilton was winning MVP's and hitting 40 homers, I was a big fan of his, you know, I was in high school. And, you know, watching him, Jay Bruce, Votto. You know, I remember watching Jay Bruce's walk off home run, you know, to get the Reds into the, into the, to clinched the division, get the Reds into the playoffs. Like, I remember watching that with my dad. So there was some, there was some cool, you know, left-handed hitters for me to watch growing up. And, you know, there's some I just mentioned. And, you know, obviously got to become friends with Jay Bruce and then have Votto as a teammate and, you know, got to learn from these guys for a really long time. So it's been cool.

How long does that relationship with Votto go from fans? and like you were like, you know, watching him as a fan to teammates. Like, is it instant? Is it takes a couple seasons? You know, like I said, it was, I'm trying to think. I remember when I was going to Dayton, right before I went to Dayton that year, I remember our field coordinator, who's now our bench coach, his name's Freddie Benavitas. He introduced me to Jay and Joey.

And I remember I made it to the home run derby in Lowe and Jay. and Jay Bruce texted me. And as I got older, Jay kind of just kind of took me under his wing and just taught me, you know, just kind of taught me how to be a pro on and off the field, you know, and I'm still learning from him. He's awesome. But, you know, just being a young left-handed hitter, I just wanted to, the best way for me to learn is just to watch, you know, especially when you're 16, 17 years old.

And those guys were, you know, doing their thing in Cincinnati. so I was just watching, you know, and then I got drafted by them, and it was kind of just the perfect fit for me. So it was, it was really cool. And then, you know, my rookie year in 17, that's, I believe, yeah, that's when Joey came in second in the MVP, and I got to just watch him day in and day out for the last couple months of the year. Just, you know, it was, it was unbelievable, man, watching him and go after that MVP. It was something special to watch. I remember, I think it was 2017 spring training. This is a true story.

I was with the A's at the time, and I think we played you guys at your place, and you were there, and I just saw you at the plate, and I don't know, you hit a ball hard, whatever, and I got on first base, and Joey was there, and I said, Joey, that kid winker,

that he could hit, huh? And Joey goes, yeah, we'll see. I'll never forget that. That it turns out I was right. Joey was kind of half right. So yeah, that was my Joey daughter, Jesse Winker's story. You know what, Trevor? I don't know if I'd be here without you, man.

So thank you for, thank you for that. No, it's Joey's awesome, man. I've learned a ton from them over the years and great teammate, great friend. And, you know, I'm very, very, very thankful for one nine. He's a, he's a Hall of Famer man. So I get to, you know, it's been, I've been very blessed to be able to watch a Hall of Famer day in and day out. So it's been really cool. I was laughing pretty hard in my head.

Trev opens up and he's like, I got to ask you, you know, a guy on the Reds, someone you play with. And I feel like every Cincinnati Reds fan or player gets asked. And it's like, give me your Votto story. And I love that Trev said, Scotty Heideman, am I right? How about Scotty? So I believe Trevor and Scott Heidman are boys. Oh, we are. I heard a, did you send Scott like a first baseman's glove or something?

here we go yeah i remember hearing some story about a first baseman's glove in spring training what's that story i think you should share that is that just a hint trev i've sent him a couple different gloves i'm talking you know rawlings pro preferred stuff i've broken in myself nice like i've used it in the show it's ready to go and i sent this to him he was like begging me to send him a glove so i finally sent him one and he got it and he's like do you have another one I don't really like this one. I'm like, are you kidding me? But no, Sky, like you said, electric factory.

Get him in the gym and just watch him bounce off the walls a little bit. My gosh. Yo, that guy, that guy can lift some weights, man. And he can hit the ball far, like really far. He's a specimen. I have a parting thought that I want to leave you with, Jesse. And you have hit 60 home runs in your career thus far. Whoops.

That's decent. Yeah. You'll be a free agent in 2024. Uh-oh, I don't know if I like where this is going. How does 67 home run sound? Oh, boy. That's how many you would hit if you were playing at Yankee Stadium. I just tracked all your doubles,

triples, and fly balls to right field. You have seven more. Okay, so does that mean every game I play is in Yankee Stadium? Because what if I just would have hit that? I did home. I did home doubles. triples and field outs to right field. So that should be,

so that's my bad. So I tried to stump you and I shouldn't try to stump, you know, to stump the Schwab here. You remember that show by the other? Yeah, nice. Jake used to dream about being on that show. You're such a, you're such a statcaster. It's unbelievable.

Can I tell you something? I lied. I didn't do home in a way. And I just did and it would only be one more. So I did stump the Schwab. Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah, you did. Okay.

A key part about the Schwab's game is, just lie lying yeah lie confidently yeah uh you'd have one more home run here here is my this is what i'm going to say to you about this first off um i loved cincinnati reds the piece Cincinnati reds were the team that drafted me and this is this city i love this city i love getting to represent the reds um and i do not i do not think down the road at all by any means but um i love it here man i'm a big fan of this city if i got the opportunity to play here man i you know this it was a dream of mine to be a big leaguer and then you know now that i've i've gotten to play in cincinnati and get to know the everybody here it's it's just you know

this is where i this is where i want to be um and the part two of that is i i would have a really hard time shaving my beard yeah like really hard time shaving my this beard you know without the beard and it's not a pretty mug. So Cash and we'll just have to trade for you instead of you, you get no choice in the matter then. That's how, if Cash is listening, that's how I'd have to go down. I, you know, I feel like this is some, I didn't Magic Johnson get in trouble for tampering. So can't we like, yeah, this is, this is bad.

And just for a clarification, I was only 2021. I did everything wrong. You'd have two more. Full career. So it's there. So we went from seven to one to two. My, the thing, what I'm most happy about, you know, coming on here is that I scum, I beat you at your own game.

Yep. You did. It's like you just threw a fastball by me, but you can't. Well, Allie's always open if you want to come play Blitzball. When you come, when you play the Mets. Oh, so you play baseball, dude. So if you want to come. I like how you guys did that in unison.

Yeah. This, you know. Yeah. Well, by the way, it's actually not open. You just got a letter from the landlord saying you can't play. Well, Trave, there's a lot. There's a lot of alleys in the Bronx, Treb. So we're currently hunting new ones.

I want to tell everybody who comes on this show in the future that Trevor's on your side, that, you know, you two are the enemy. Well, it's Jeter fans versus non-Geeter fans. Right. So I watch you guys just kick, you guys just touch feet together and said your little Alley's always open thing. Like, I'm on to you guys, man. I'm on to you.

Hey. You, I'm on. And it's me sending you all the mail. Our feet barely touch the ground. They can't touch each other. All right. Well, two more homers. Everybody go vote for Jesse Winker.

Let's go. Thank you very much for sitting down with us, man. We appreciate it. Highest OPS of your draft class. I just want to see if there was any fun draft class stuff. So if you want to brag about that to anyone, you can. That was a loaded draft class, by the way, that 2012 draft class, man. It was filled with talent, you know, a lot of really outstanding players there.

But thank you for that. I appreciate that. And I'd like a little hat, like the hat Trevor's got on. So throw one of those, my online. When you got you. Hey, can you throw like, can you give me like 15 to 20 of them? I'd like to give me. Yeah, are you spelling riders with a Y or an I?

Because we can make a design on that too if you want. It's an I. Just want to make sure. And you can put it on the hat, but I just want to let you know you're still not. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's my life. It's kind of he's a Riding grouper. We'll talk offline, Jess.

I know what you're just saying this because it's Jimmy and Jake, you don't want to involve everybody. We'll talk off. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you guys. Thank you, Jesse. Thanks, man.

Better, Jess. Thank you, you guys. Have a good one. That was awesome. Baseball. Wow. That was Jesse Winker. A rider.

We're not in the crew yet, but I think Jake and I might be getting scooters and just tailing them two blocks away until eventually they notice us on their, you know, they notice us, they notice us, and then we get closer. And then there's a big red light stoppage. And it's like, oh, we're all at the same corner now.

And then we cross the street together. And then, you know, we're in. So we'll be riders. Trev, I don't know, it was a hard no to you. Yeah. Well, like I said, I think it was just like there was too many of us. If I get one-on-one, I might be able to change his mind. I'm just thinking about Amir Garret.

on a scooter. He's too big for a scooter. They need like a different scooter for him. It is a small man's game. It always has been. Always has been. Thanks, Jesse. Hey, for real, for real though, he was awesome. All these spin rate graphics that are coming out are so awesome. Have you seen these traves? Do they just rile you up?

Yeah. Did you see this codify baseball one? That just came out with the velocity and the spin. And from June it just goes straight down. a waterfall. It's like it's honestly looks like a, you walk up a cliff and hike it and then you like jump into the waterfall. They're cliff diving. The spin rates. Pitchers are still complaining.

Always, trust. I don't know how you watch that. Or see a chart like that and then still complain about it. Yeah. Me neither, man. You brainwashed me to hate pitchers. And it's, I don't know. I kind of, I'm mad at you about it. But you've also opened my eyes a little bit. What's funny is I hung out with a lot of pitchers. Yeah.

But they get on my nerves a lot because some of the stuff they do. That's because they're the talkers on the team because they only have to pitch, they only have to play one every five days. They're just a different breed, man, pitchers. Failure position. Simple. Everyone's job.