Talkin' Baseball (MLB Podcast) - 362 | All-Star Recap, Joc Pederson to Atlanta, & Teams to Believe In

Episode Date: July 16, 2021

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Starting point is 00:00:02 Hello and welcome to talking baseball. We are back from Denver. The Yankees have COVID. Jock is a brave. And we're going to talk about who's going to do good. Hello and welcome to talking baseball. Thank you very much for joining us today. My name is Jimmy.
Starting point is 00:00:32 His name is Jake. His name is Trevor. And that dude is B, B, B, D. And we are so excited to start talking about baseball again in the second half of this season, which teams are going to be good, which teams we have faith, which teams have hard schedules, which teams have good schedules. We're each going to choose a team on the outskirts
Starting point is 00:00:52 that we think may be in. We got a lot to discuss Jack Peterson trade, and at the end of the show, we'll do a little recap of our trip to Denver for the people interested in that because it was a blast. Most importantly, this show is brought to you by Draft Kings. It's brought to you by Jordan Jones.
Starting point is 00:01:07 It's brought to you by Kurt Fagelman, River Fagard, Bryce Livingston. Carl Greenblatt, Dylan Hilling, a lot of double Ls in that name, Greg Myers, Matt, Tim Copeland, Eric Mills, and Will Chalker. Will, Dill, Mills, Dill, Dill, Dillon, Dulls, Hilling, double L's, four sets of double Ls from our patrons today. And, um, I don't know, that's just analytics on the names that I read. Trevor, how are you doing? you know James Jacob big big dong I'm doing great I'm happy to be home we did have a great Denver trip but you know how it is after a work trip or a vacation it's nice to be back in your own space um I ran 10 miles yesterday and drank probably 200 ounces of water trying to get my body back into fight and shape so I'm on that road now because Denver I mean, I didn't keep count, but I probably drank like 10 beers a day in Denver.
Starting point is 00:02:19 Wow. So a lot of calories for this guy. But I'm back now. I feel good. How are you guys doing? Jake, Jacob. Opposite of you. I mean, I ate clean, drank mean.
Starting point is 00:02:33 No, I feel fantastic. You sound like shit. That's part of it. That's definitely a part of it still. How do you lose your voice for, like you lose your voice so quickly and then for so long? I just leave it all out on the field, man. I, you know, effort has never been the question with me except at my last employer. That was a huge issue.
Starting point is 00:02:57 But man, it was good being back in Denver. Love me some Denver. And yeah, I mean, getting home resetting the engine. I'm ready to do it this weekend. So we're not, we're not, because no All-Star game, but enjoyed watching the Yankees play last night and excited to get into the second half, man. Jim, you've got a pretty, you've got a pretty boring couple days coming up, right? Good relaxing comeback. I have a relaxing day today and tomorrow, actually, because the move got pushed until Monday, which is bullshit.
Starting point is 00:03:37 And I don't think they should be allowed to do that because we have to like like pay more and we have people coming out to help us move and stuff. And now we can't move into our new house until Monday. But then Monday is going to be a crazy day. And then yeah. But I'm down the shore right now. My parents house at the beach. So I love this seat because I get to watch people just walk to the beach like this couple. He's carrying two fishing rods and she is.
Starting point is 00:03:58 She is dragging the wagon with all the chairs and all the supplies. And now he's handing her the fishing rods. Nope. And she handed him. wagon and that's better just take everything dude and let her be like you know just enjoy her walk anyway i like people watching and then as soon as we end this episode i'm gonna go jump in the ocean and relaxed for today and then i think tomorrow is full relax mode and then uh sunday monday and the rest of the week you're gonna be absolutely crazy love that for you yeah yeah love it um
Starting point is 00:04:32 i wanted to say something i forget what it was jake we we do have maybe like little spoiler, uh, like another big thing for talking baseball in five weeks. Well, one of it's one part of it's guaranteed. So like it is and Jake and I, uh, and Zach and BBD not this Saturday, but next Saturday have something on the itinerary. So it doesn't stop like that on the flight home, Sam, who, uh, was huge part of planning everything. We were like, okay, what's that, what's the next event?
Starting point is 00:05:05 So it is, it is, uh, non-staffir. stop. It felt like a finale and it's just a halfway point. So yes. I'm getting loose, Bobby. We got our first trade. Hmm.
Starting point is 00:05:18 As soon as the events died down and everything happens, we get our first trade. Jock Peterson goes from the Cubs who told us they were going to sell and he goes to the Braves. So it's the first 2021 trade chip or domino to fall for the Cubs. A lot of people say Darvish was the first one. but Jock goes to the Braves. And before we talk about this, I got to tell you about this cool new 13 episode YouTube series
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Starting point is 00:06:06 Each two-part episode features both a narrative storytelling element that weaves through the history of some of the museum's most iconic artifacts and the Hall of Fame's curators conversing about those artifacts and stories with MLB Network personalities, Carlos Pena, and Lindsay Bearer, the granddaughter of Hall of Fame catcher Yogi Berra. So support for the series was provided by a Market New York grant through I Love New York and New York State Division of Tourism as part of the regional economic development council. Initiative and to stay up to date with the release of each episode of Hall of Fame Connections, follow the Baseball Hall of Fame social media channels at Baseball Hall on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, and YouTube, and check out the Hall of Fame Connection YouTube series today on YouTube. I like history. I like the Hall of Fame.
Starting point is 00:06:56 I like baseball. I'll probably check that out. The link for all that's in the bios of this episode. Hall of Fame. That's cool. All of Fame. whatever. That'll be another trip we got to do soon.
Starting point is 00:07:11 So Jack Peterson goes to the Braves. Who was the return? It's some really fun name like Bryce Bat. Bryce Ball, I think. Bryce Ball. Love his game. Big boy, 6-2-40. And it's just a straight-up one-for-one, right?
Starting point is 00:07:28 Heads up. Or is there more. I think that's it. The money's all coming over to Atlanta. It's not much left. I think they said it was around 1.9 mill left on that and then they're on the hook also for potential buyout
Starting point is 00:07:40 because Jock does have a club option for next year as well. So it could end up being a, if he comes over and does well, I think it's a $10 million club option. I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility that they pick that up if he balls out. And Bryce Bat Nope.
Starting point is 00:08:00 Well, he's a hitter, not a pitcher, so I'm going to call him. I'm going to call him Bryce. that. He played for Danville. How about that? I least live there. And in 2019, lit it up in the minor league. So there you go, Cubbies. Yeah. And, you know, hey, if you're looking for Jake Scouting report on Bryce Ball, which I've really sunk my teeth into, I don't know, he's a walk power guy. So it's, you know, they're taking a shot on a big boy. If he can hit a little bit, I mean, jock, like you're saying, is essentially a rental with the potential to be there for next year, too. I mean, the other thing that's on the deck here is that if the Braves eat it for the next couple weeks is that Jock could be flipped again.
Starting point is 00:08:42 So I think that's very like. Like we're talking about with a couple teams coming up later in this show, a huge two-week period for the Atlanta Braves. I mean, I think Buster only tweeted out this morning. The Braves, you know, take a dive, but Jock has two good weeks. This is part one. and then it's going to be Bryce Ball for another minor league or something like that. I don't know. I think this Braves front office is too keyed in on their window, which is good.
Starting point is 00:09:15 I mean, that's what you want. But it's been a nightmare of a season. So, yeah, Trev, I saw you do the little head shake. They would have to be so bad these next two weeks, which, hey, they could be, but I don't know. Well, I knew this was going to bleed into my headshake. my segment on schedule watch. But the Braves have the toughest second half schedule of any team on the outskirts that I, I looked at all of them.
Starting point is 00:09:42 And the Braves have by far the toughest. And the next two weeks, they play three against Tampa Bay, three against San Diego. Then they go at Philly. Then they go at New York Mets, then Milwaukee. That's their next five series. Tampa, San Diego, Philly. away, Mets, and Milwaukee. So yeah, by the time they're done with that stretch,
Starting point is 00:10:08 they might be so far out of it that Jock gets traded again to another contender. And I think that's why they pulled the trigger on this so early because they know that stretch is coming up. And they know that that's their season right there, those next five series. That's, are we contenders or are we not? That's, it's tough. And then, dude, if they do get through that stretch, those five series against those teams, they have two West Coast trips left on their schedule. And one of them is a three series West Coast trip.
Starting point is 00:10:41 So the Braves have the toughest second half schedule of all the teams that are not like solidly in the playoffs right now. That's what I looked at. And we'll do more on that later. But I do think that's why they pulled the trigger pretty early on Jack. And we've seen we've seen teams do this. You know, the twins picked up Lance Lynn and then flipped him or was it Highmay Garcia? I believe High May they trade in one start flipped again. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:03 It did that. We did that when I was there with, um, hose. Oh my gosh. I'm going to forget his name right now. Oh my God. Cuban dude can just absolutely rake lefty. He's old.
Starting point is 00:11:14 I'm, I can't believe I'm forgetting right now. Not Jose. I was going to say Jose Morales, but that's another former teammate of mine. Okay. What year? Continue.
Starting point is 00:11:24 I'll figure it out. Continue. I'll figure it out. Okay. Well, well, well, you give your thoughts.
Starting point is 00:11:29 Yeah, I was kind of waiting for your opinion if I'm being full, full disclosure. On jock and, and what? Just all of it? Yeah, on the train. Okay, yeah, we talked about this a little bit on Chris's IG live. You know, it's not enough, obviously. Good player, but it's not enough for the Braves to break through to go and catch the Mets,
Starting point is 00:11:46 who I believe are going to be extremely active. So to me, if it's like, hey, let's get Jock and see how we do over the next week, that's like that's not a good plan. And I'm not in favor of that. Like, if you're going to go get Jock and you are still not, because you are in this window and you're still not giving up, which like I wouldn't even fault them for giving up for the amount of shit they've gone through this year as an organization. I mean, you're losing your best player to an ACL injury.
Starting point is 00:12:14 You bought into a guy who was a piece of shit so he doesn't even give you anything. Your top pitching guy who you thought was going to be back this year, ruptures his fucking Achilles. Like, it's been a horrible year for them. So I wouldn't even fault them for saying like, that's retool for 2022. But if you're signing jock, you better go get somebody else. you need more help. Man, and yeah, I just went to the fan graphs page, the roster resource,
Starting point is 00:12:40 and where their lineup was to where their lineup is, it's nutty. Right now they have it listed. If the Braves were to play tonight, which they're supposed to, they say it would be Jock, Freddie, Albies, and you can mix those three up, sure. Austin Riley, Orlando Arcea, Dansby, Guillermo, Heredia and Kevin Smith, your Atlanta Braves. I mean, that is not the team that was supposed to be playing for the Braves this season. So that's brutal.
Starting point is 00:13:14 And I kind of like the way now I'm starting to get roped into it combining what you said and what you said. Both of you guys, about it. What if this is just the start of the NL East, like check race? Like Trev, you said that the Mets, they're going to be players. Like, the Mets are going to make their piece. You think my guy, Dombrowski, ain't going to make a move? Like, I think this might start the one-up festival in the NLEs. I love that.
Starting point is 00:13:41 I'm here for that. And then do you think, do you think, I like this spin zone right here, because you just got me into a whole different idea. Do you think Anthopolis was like, let's make a small nominal move to trigger off these big moves, then we'll bow out and be ready for 2022. These guys have given up some of their prospects, some of their capital going for it this year, let's just make sure they like go all out and spend some spend some shit but we secretly are bowing out.
Starting point is 00:14:10 Chess. Yeah. That's chess. That's a reach. I love it. I love it. Trev, I'm scouring through the twins transactions. Can't find anyone.
Starting point is 00:14:23 I forgot to keep checking. What year do you think it was? Jose Cruz Jr. like, oh my gosh. 2012, 2014. He's a stud. Oh, Kendra Smyr. Rallis. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:14:35 I was looking for another team in mine. I was looking for Jay names because you said Jose. So I believe. And Tranez came over and then we traded them like, I don't know, a month later. The only thing we haven't talked about, that's a trivial part of the Jock trade that I think is fun is the Braves were up three to one on the Dodgers. Jock was on the Dodgers. And there's a lot of maybe history in that room. And obviously there's no like hard feelings or anything, Trev.
Starting point is 00:15:02 but what as a being in clubhouses what is it ball busting right away like there's got to be something weird about that i don't think so especially like if it's jock going to the braves you know like if it was somebody coming from the braves to the dodgers and then you can see like the dodgers kind of making fun that's a sore subject in the braves i know i'm saying jock can't go in there and just be like uh watch some shit maybe he did i'm sure jock doesn't want to remind them of that they're already in a bad mental space ish so he needs to be over there and being a positive influence and young jock knows that young jock will do fine i'm sure you can joke about it a little bit freddie's probably going to say like you know something about it because he's
Starting point is 00:15:47 freddie but you know they're there jock's coming over he's bringing a serious mindset to go freaking win i hope they do make moves to go like and compete but they got they got uh quite a road ahead of them. Jock, what was I going to say? If you listen to the compound, Ian Hap and Zach Short Dakota's podcast
Starting point is 00:16:11 on John WMy Media, they talked about when Jock came to the Cubs and how he was like awesome. He like bought everyone sneakers. He was like hooked up security guard. I might be not getting the details exactly correct, but I know that Jock made like a very positive impact with the Cubs
Starting point is 00:16:27 team and players. And they were like, he's awesome. So maybe he will inject some positivity and some fun over there. And then I'll get traded again. Closing, closing note on my end, and it ties back to Trevor's teammate. Kendris Morales career earnings. Three, two, one. $70.62 million. I mean, did he ever get a big contract? 762? 762, yeah. No, I think he's, I think he's in the hundreds. hundreds.
Starting point is 00:16:58 Is? I think he got a deal. I think he's like right around 100. 90 to 100. He is 10K away from the BBD special. 69,410,000. I was all over. Wow.
Starting point is 00:17:13 Nice job, Jimmy. I thought he got more than that. Wow. I could have been a hundred million off and would have been shrugged and said, yeah, I don't know. I was just guessing. So I'm not going to take too much credit for it, but I'm smart spend on life. Oh, 13 year career, 213 ding-dongs.
Starting point is 00:17:27 Good for you, Kendries. Yeah, I like Ken. He was great, too. He was great. That year that we signed him, he sat out spring training. I think we signed him like maybe like in June. We were kind of like doing all right. And then we just, we were crap.
Starting point is 00:17:42 So we traded them off. What do you think the most he ever earned in one single year was? And then I will move on. I was just looking at it. So I kind of know. Trev, your guess? 13. 12.
Starting point is 00:17:58 12. Yeah. What's the most you ever, what's the most you ever earned in one year, Trevor talking. Um, seven something seven something. Hell yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:11 Hell yeah. Hell yeah. I wish I would have had more. Like them paychecks. It was pretty. 20, 2016, Treb,
Starting point is 00:18:21 you earned seven million two hundred and fifty thousand dollars. Sometimes we forget, you know. You don't get that. You're, you're paid me. Your paychecks were wild for a little bit there, huh? They were wild.
Starting point is 00:18:33 Subscribe. Tell your friends. Yeah, please. Let's go. Oh, my gosh. You signed him June 8th, traded him July 24th. Yeah. But again, great guy.
Starting point is 00:18:48 And he could rake, too. Do you guys remember when he hit a walk-off granny and then blew out? I think, unfortunately, that's what he's remembered for. That's changed the game of walk-off celebrations. Like everyone's like, okay, hold on, especially if you're an older guy. Yeah. All right. Let's move on to Trevor Ploof's math segment.
Starting point is 00:19:08 I've been doing the math gym. It's not as exciting as I thought it would be, but we could go over some of them. Basically, what we're going to talk about now is I set the bar at 93 wins to enter the postseason. I haven't done all of them because I'm talking to you guys and trying to do this is like, putting my mind in a pretzel. So you guys could all help out with this. Just get a calculator. We are not enough.
Starting point is 00:19:38 I thought I could... You know, we should go right through this. Big math segment. This is what we're good at. But if you... This is kind of what I've realized as I'm doing this. We're setting it in 93 wins. It seems to me like...
Starting point is 00:19:53 And we talked about this a little bit before the show. Like, the playoffs are almost... booked. I know that sucks if you're hearing that and you're like, you're a fan of a team that's out of it, but like, I don't, there's not many teams that I see are going to do that. I know we're going to talk about that a little bit later, Jim, like we're going to throw some names out there, but as I'm doing the math, it's tough. Like, for instance, the Blue Jay's sitting right now, and this is basically the same thing for the Yankees because they're neck and neck. The Blue Jay is sitting right now at 45 and 42. I say you got to get to 93 wins. Well, they need to go 40,
Starting point is 00:20:28 and 27 over the next 75 games. 21 games over 500. You think that's going to happen? No. But you know what? I am doing hope for the hopeless after this. Yeah. So you can tear them down.
Starting point is 00:20:43 I'll build them back up. So 48 and 27 for the Js, that gets into 93 wins. For the Yankees, it's just the same math. Take two games off each side, 47 and 26 to get to 93. So they actually have to do 21 games over 500 in less games, two less games. I don't know if either team has enough to do that. And this is if the raise and the Red Sox get off of their winning percentage pace and come down. So this is, you know, as I've been doing this, again, like I said, like it just seems to me like if you're looking at the division, especially in the AL, right now you have the Red Sox, the White Sox and the Astros.
Starting point is 00:21:26 and then the two teams that are making up the wild card right now are right on the heels of those first place teams. So their win percentages are way up. You know, there's nobody under like the A's at 52 and 40 have a 565 win percentage. The next closest one that would be competing with them is the Mariners at 527. So it seems to me like the AAL playoffs are closed.
Starting point is 00:21:52 Is that like a hot take? No, I mean, I remember I'm trying to look up the 2019. standings at the break because I believe the you have a game. I got all that. Yeah, because that ties into kind of what I wanted to bring into the table. So the AL in 2019 at the All-Star break, Yankees, Astros, twins, rays.
Starting point is 00:22:14 If the playoffs had started then, the only change would have been the Cleveland Indians were 50 and 38. The Oakland A's were 50 and 41. So that does tie in. to what Treves alluding to is that, you know, in theory, because this is where my mind jumped to, it's like baseball is baseball. Something will change. And we don't know what it is. And it could be a 10-game winner from every side. The AL right now looks pretty locked up. In 2019, you very much had Cleveland, Oakland, the Red Sox, even the Texas Rangers were like there and in play.
Starting point is 00:22:56 So at least it was a discussion. The only swap at that point was the Indians were ahead of the athletics, and the athletics ended up passing them. So it's half a hot take because it's sports and there are, you know, 75 games left. So something very easily could happen. If a team has a first half like the Braves did, you know, it's almost impossible to anticipate that and predict that. but it's the beauty of sports.
Starting point is 00:23:28 What about the NL? Because the nationals were the big story, right? What do you got to? Yeah, so I think what's the NL the only, I think 93 wins is another good mark for the NL. And you have the Brewer sitting in front comfortably in their division, four games up on the Reds. I know we'll talk about that a little bit later.
Starting point is 00:23:48 I think the Brewers are like the Sleeper World Series pick. I don't know how you can't say that, because they're going to make moves. and what they have, like their strengths right now is exactly what you need to win in the playoffs. They have three fucking All-Star starters and the back end of the bullpen. Okay. And their offense will pick up because they're going to make moves. And Yelis only hit five freaking home runs this year.
Starting point is 00:24:15 So you expect some positive regression that way, although he hates that word. Is that true? Five home runs so far. Oh, no. 400 OBP, though. $3.99. I'll give them that extra point. Anyway, so then you look at the Giants, the Dodgers, and the Padres. Guess what? Those three teams are going to be in the playoffs.
Starting point is 00:24:36 Okay, and then Milwaukee, most likely. So then it leaves one spot open, and that's from the NL East. Now, I don't think we have to set the bar at 93 games for the NL East. The Mets at a 540 win clip, 47 and 40. They're sitting three and a half over the Phillies and four over the Braves, even the nationals are only six back. I could see like an 88 to 90-win team winning this division.
Starting point is 00:25:02 That's what it's going to take for one of these teams, obviously, to get into the postseason. So now it becomes who makes the moves. We were just talking about Jock going to the Braves. Could it be the first to really catapult that division going all in? Because you have to remember, there's other teams fighting for these players. So it's not like the NLEAS is just going to get all these players
Starting point is 00:25:21 because they need them. So it'll be interesting to see, like the Phillies for instance they want to add but like maybe they don't have enough prospect capital to add you can want all you want
Starting point is 00:25:36 but if you don't have the money to buy something you can't get it so it's going to be interesting the NL East is to me the only thing that's like stopping these playoffs from being pretty much fully formed already and I'm talking it's July 16th
Starting point is 00:25:53 which is pretty crazy to me. Yeah, I mean with the the Cubs there's teams that are the Braves are buying and they're like worse than the Cubs When I was looking at all the standings and stuff I was like oh man The Cubs coming out of it and be like announcing that they're out of it It's kind of odd they could they could have done the two-week game As well, but they're just sellers right now I think they're smart I think they look up I agree I agree with you I think they're smart. I think other teams are
Starting point is 00:26:27 subscribing to hope and the Cubs are not. Do you think there's any chance I'm looking at the AOL wild card right now and it's not sexy. It's not sexy right now. I mean, Tampa's two games up on Oakland and Oakland has the final
Starting point is 00:26:44 spot. Oakland has a three and a half lead on Seattle which love you Seattle. No one's buying the stock. Prove us wrong. Cleveland. And then And so Cleveland, Toronto, and the Yankees are four and a half back of Oakland. I mean, I guess that is the one I'd circle.
Starting point is 00:27:04 You know, we've talked about Oakland a lot like Oakland, and they usually find a way and end up in the playoffs. But that is the team that I think everyone is circling, because if they could drift back and Cleveland can rack up some empty wins, if the Yankees can find anything, if Toronto makes a little pitching move, I think that's the one I'm circling. Like, I can believe in that.
Starting point is 00:27:25 The NO wild card is going to be tough. Like the Padres or the Giants or the Dodgers would have to really slip. And honestly, it's the Padres, who's America's team? So I don't know. I mean, that one is really tough. And Jim, I know you've got some schedule stuff. The Cincinnati conversation is also a little fun. Yeah, yeah.
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Starting point is 00:29:23 Wow with the Stanton And then that's Mac And he's just cool about it He's got I think So Masey had that The Yankees just yanky's no one Yeah Yeah
Starting point is 00:29:37 Katie really likes taking their blankets And draping them over them Like some type of medieval horse And a jousting competition And Mac actually like loves it Like he just keeps the blanket On his shoulders and walks around the house like, I'm cozy everywhere I go.
Starting point is 00:29:53 So he likes being in clothes, I guess. What a sissy boy. They're going to get cut right now. Max got this, when his hair grows out, he gets this furrowed brow. He looks like John C. Riley. Just looks like such a like an old bruiser of a puppy. I got to say, I know those aren't real Yankees fans because there's a name next to the number. No, my dogs aren't really Yankees fans.
Starting point is 00:30:14 They barely fucking watch. I try to talk to them all the time about it. And they're like, can't keep up. It's ridiculous. The casuals. casual soft hope for the hopeless all right i like schedule stuff and i went and i looked at so just to let everyone know if your team is currently in the playoffs i didn't look because you have a lot of hope it's hope for the hopeless right are we we're all picking one right because i yeah i'll run
Starting point is 00:30:39 through the schedules then we'll all pick one okay because first like this is like true hope for hopeless like jake said no one's buying stock in the mariners uh the aOS is pretty tight But if you wanted to, if you wanted to be a Mariner fan that has a reason to watch and stuff, there's seven games behind Houston right now, they have 12 left. So if you luck into winning the first two series, you can talk about it, the dance a little bit. I don't know, hope for the hopeless. You got 12 left against the number one team in Seattle. That's a big one.
Starting point is 00:31:10 Same with Cleveland. Cleveland is eight games behind the Chicago White Sox who started faltering, but I don't think they'll continue to falter. they have a five-game series against Chicago in September, like the very end of September, a five-game set. They're eight games back right now. So if you just make up some ground, get within five games before that sweep,
Starting point is 00:31:34 I'm not saying it's easy. I'm not saying it's likely, but there's hope where you can be like, hey, if we five-game sweep them, we're tied for the division. All you got to be is within five by the time that five-game set comes at the very end of September. So there's some hope for Cleveland.
Starting point is 00:31:47 people and fans hang on to. That's your goal. Be within five by the time we play the White Sox. It's like September teens or 20s or something like that. Toronto and the New York Yankees are both eight games back. Now the Yankees, eight games back behind Boston, we had the COVID washout yesterday, but eight games this week against them.
Starting point is 00:32:14 They do the four games set. then the Yankees have three games against Tampa or someone else. Then another four game set against Boston. They had on the schedule was eight games against Boston in like the next 10 days. So if magically the Angis were to be healthy, which they're not and not have COVID and be like, you know, win both of those like take six out of the eight games, you'd be right back in the fucking thing. But that's not going to happen. Toronto also has 10 games against Boston by August 6. So Boston's getting tested kind of early,
Starting point is 00:32:51 where Boston, on the other hand, goes out and just beats the Yankees and beats Toronto in these 16 games that happen in the next three weeks. Then Boston, like kind of solidifies. The Boston can win the division in the next two weeks. Not against the race, maybe. But they could, they could put, they could put the Blue Jays and the Yankees just dead in the next two weeks. and can do that. Or Toronto or New York can fight, scratch, claw, win majority of those games and be somewhat in it. So there's a little bit there. The Reds, this one I like a lot. I like Milwaukee. I do think they're the best team in that division by far. And to threat come the postseason the way they're built. But the Reds just swept them going into the break to go from seven games back to four games back.
Starting point is 00:33:44 and now the Reds play another three-game set against Milwaukee now. If they were to sweep them again, and I'm coming from a Reds fan's perspective, hope for the hopeless, you're within one basically at halftime. Now, they only have one other series against them. They've played a lot already. So the Reds only have six games against Milwaukee,
Starting point is 00:34:07 and three are happening right now. So you have to take care of business tonight, tomorrow, and the next day for this to happen. if you want to, you know, get the two points you can have. So the Reds, this series is kind of big for them, I think. But I do like that. And I love that the Cubs are out of it because guess what that means? That means more easy games for the Reds.
Starting point is 00:34:32 Obviously, it means more easy games for the Brewers too. But I like that the Cubs being out of it, I think, opens up a little bit of a hole for the Reds to kind of in their head say, all right, well, we're the team now that has to kind of push your tackle this. What are the Reds moves? What are they looking to do? They need a shortstop. You know, they started with Eugenio over there. We just talked about that.
Starting point is 00:35:04 He's been bad this year. Yeah, and, you know, playing shortstop ain't easy. You wonder if that factors in, analytics can't see that. You know, Kyle Farmer right now is listed as they're starting shortstop. So the Reds, from this conversation, they have to be one of the teams you circle because, Jim, I'll go on the other side. I'm normally not Senor hopeless, but they open up with the Brewers and the Mets who have been two of the best NL teams. So if they have a bad six days, their whole outlook changes again. So I don't know.
Starting point is 00:35:37 I think if you're a baseball fan and if you're a Sincerex fan, you're circling. Javi Baez, you're circling Trevor's story. And you're saying, I mean, could you imagine if they got Trevor Story and in the middle of that lineup, you got to go story, Winker Castellanos Fado? Like, you know, and this is a team that this front office is willing to go for it. They did with Bauer. And then they kind of got screwed by the COVID season. So this is the team.
Starting point is 00:36:09 And if you're a Reds fan, you obviously want your time. team to go for. That's where you always end up landing. You just hope they kind of, everything we just said about the Braves, how this Jack Peterson might be a half move. Like, you know, oh, we're doing something. I don't want to beat a shot at our guy, Freddie Galvis, Cincinnati Red's great. But when the Reds shortstop trade comes through and it's not one of those kind of upper echelon guys, I think if you're a Reds fan, you're like, come on. Like, let's, let's not dip the toe. Give the boys a chance. So,
Starting point is 00:36:43 interested to see in the front office, like, they also might let these six games decided. Yeah. Everybody is going to be going after bullpen help. That's the thing. Always. So it's like, we're talking about these teams that need to make these significant
Starting point is 00:37:00 upgrades. Like I mentioned earlier, like there's competition for these things. Just because you want something doesn't mean you're going to get. Now, the Reds can go out and get a short stop and they would still need bullpen help to be like a real like a real player in this end of the season and then the postseason so that's for me if i'm if i'm a reds fan and now looking at all the statistics and stuff their starting pitching's actually been okay like sunny gray can get back louis castillo who has been he's been good right the last five or six
Starting point is 00:37:30 starts turning around really good had a horrible start starting pitching could be okay with the bullpen Holy crap. They need a lot of help. Man. That Milwaukee Sinti series this weekend is the series to watch. Who's lined up for that? So it looks like they're going Molly Castillo Gray, and the brewers are going Houser, Woodruff Burns.
Starting point is 00:37:58 So the OG law firm. Yeah. I mean, it's fun. The brewers have a losing record. Teams over 500. They had a pretty easy schedule in June so far. So I do think that the Reds Brewers can be a fun race here in the central. And I think that if the brewers can trade,
Starting point is 00:38:24 the brewers have the pieces. I'd rather. I'd rather have their starting pitching in their bullpen and they're kind of. Almost more than anyone in the league. make i'd rather their makeup than what the reds have uh which are like you know they got some good bats they got some guys having great seasons they do have some starting pitching but not great bullpen but see if the trades can fill some holes but uh all right well i'll keep going down and then we'll each pick our team in the east i already told you atlanta's schedule is so tough they're so
Starting point is 00:38:56 banged up i i i like the braves and people always think i'm like attacking fan bases and not just looking at this like the schedule and like how could you i will i will firmly say i think there's no way the braves do anything the rest of the way if they do i'm incredibly happy for him and i'm interested to see how they pull it off but my god they have two west coast trips one is a three game series out west their whole teams banged up i mean they're losing players like every other week they make a trade for jock but they have i mean tampa Bay, San Diego, then they go, they go to Philadelphia and they go to the Mets. Not that the Phillies like an amazing team right now, but that's a hard fought series because
Starting point is 00:39:45 they're both chasing the same thing, especially the Mets, and then the Brewers. So I don't see how the Braves make it through the second half as a playoff team. I'm interested to see if they do, but that's tough. Philly on the other hand, in very similar spots, the Braves have a easy second half schedule. They don't have one cluster of series where I went, ooh, that's a tough stretch. Everything's broken up by teams that are going to be out of it, teams that are going to be sellers. Everything is broken up. And they only have one West Coast trip left and it's only a two series set.
Starting point is 00:40:17 And I think that's why baseball reference has the Phillies as their pick projected division winner over the Mets. The Phillies rest of the schedule. And I mean, it's just a schedule. It's not just on paper. but I was like, oh, but if you compare the two, the Phillies have an easier path than the Braves to making, to catching the Mets. Your, your fills, Trev. I mean, we talked about the Braves already. I agree with you, Jim.
Starting point is 00:40:48 It's a long road ahead for them. And I don't know if, I don't even know if they should be going for it. But the Phillies, I've been saying this all along and they've been mediocre all along. I think if you look at what they have on paper as well, like their lineup is very long and they have the starting pitchers. Now they need bullpen help again, which is, you know, people say it's the easiest thing to fix, but not when every single team is going after it. So you're telling me, Jim, that the schedule is extremely favorable for the Phillies. That makes me think. Between the two, yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:18 That makes me think that, yeah, like there is a shot. Like, that's what I was saying. The NL East is open for business, man. And I want to believe in the Mets. And if they go get Chris Bryant, their lineups crazy and their pitching's been crazy. their lineup though for the Mets has a bunch of guys with career OPSs in the 8s but all of them are underperforming I'm talking Conforto I'm talking McNeil I'm talking Lindorre I'm sure I'm missing other people too it's even Peter Alonzo he's in the 8th right now but he's still underperforming his career averages
Starting point is 00:41:52 so it's does Bryant come over and like spark everybody because if they start to all get hot at the same time I don't think anybody's catching them in the east. So we're going to be seeing some trades and it's going to change everything we're thinking right now. I was looking at the Brewers roster. They need a first baseman. They got Rowdy over there now, and they have Keston.
Starting point is 00:42:18 He's been pretty bad this year. Like imagine if the Brewers went and got Bryant and stuck my first base. We're talking. Then I think they might be fucking up there with the Dodgers. Yeah. Yeah, no, it's good. The talent level.
Starting point is 00:42:32 It's going to be really exciting. I know, I know we, you were with us, Trev last year for covering the trade deadline, but it was the short and season and it was kind of bizarre. But I don't know if you remember 2019, Jake, but like on trade deadline day, we were just live streaming like the whole day when the Granky news came and all that. And it's a fun time. So I'm excited to go through that this year and we'll set up some live stream, some reactions and all that, like come deadline time, but it's a lot of fun.
Starting point is 00:43:00 I want to break. news. I think I'm going to go into it thinking like, hey, let's steal some of the thunder. I want to. I didn't want to put this into the ether. I got the jock trade, but my person wouldn't bet our friendship on it because he was willing to, he, it wasn't all confirmed yet. So I just want people to know the people source is ready. I got some news that the Yankees are not even in the top three teams. for Gallo with the Rangers and that they're asking for big shit for for as they should which I as they should but I mean no no they asked like for Martian plus which is like that's what I heard I have
Starting point is 00:43:46 no confirmation on that I just I'm asking too I told Chris Rose that I said the Rangers don't have to do anything they proved that last year with Lance Lynn they just trade him in the opposite That was dumb. That was dumb. Because with Gallo, they could get the offer they want now, or they could wait in the off season, or they can wait to the next trade deadline. So, like, they have opportunities.
Starting point is 00:44:08 If they don't get the package that they want, they won't do it. Or extend them. Just make them your guy, Texas. That's where. Well, you know, their organization is run poorly. Oh, I've heard. There's one other team,
Starting point is 00:44:21 and this goes against what I said at the beginning, where I was only looking at teams that don't have a playoff spot, but I was just interested, I was going through it. The Dodgers and the San Francisco Giants play seven games against each other before July ends.
Starting point is 00:44:38 I mean, what's today? July 16th. So in the next two weeks, they play seven games against each other. The Dodgers are one and a half out. I mean, if the Dodd, they can change the landscape, both sides can change the landscape of that for a little bit
Starting point is 00:44:52 before August even gets here. you know they can split those series or if one team takes over you're looking at a change in the landscape a little bit so i i i'll say this we obviously had a crazy week being at the all-star game and all that i just got excited because these next couple weeks every year um are going to be awesome because i mean even the little stuff like trev you mentioned kessing hurrah i mean you know a huge prospect for the brewers broke out then he's strong struggled since. And man, like, how much are his next two weeks going to depend what the rest of the front office does? Or, you know, hey, do they wait for maybe one of those guys to come back
Starting point is 00:45:36 from the Olympics and say, hey, well, let her a roll in Todd Father. You want to pick it at first base for a couple months? Like, they have plays. And it's, you know, everyone wants to be in a front office. I, you know, catch me, catch me on the internet at 10.30 at night. And, you know, I got some front office ideas. But man, some of the decisions that have to be made in the next couple weeks are, there's ripple effects within an organization that, man, Keston Hur, that's like supposed to be their guy. Sometimes there are seasons like this.
Starting point is 00:46:14 Sometimes it doesn't work out. I'm rooting for him. He's a local product for me. But they're going to go get somebody, man. They proved it time and time again. They identify the weakness. They go solve it. They surprise the shit out of me every single year.
Starting point is 00:46:27 They really do. This Brewer's team is, I don't know if you guys remember I talked about how I was like, I'm not sure about Cleveland's pitching last year. Then they were like the best pitching team in baseball basically. Didn't we say the same thing? Or at least I might have said the same thing. And then you guys like, oh, we've heard like they're pretty happy with their pitching.
Starting point is 00:46:46 And now I mean, I was, I was pumping the tires on the law firm from the start from the TPP. And we- Pumping the tires? Gassing them up, whatever you want to say. Okay. Yeah. The law firm, yeah. And then we even said that we had heard from inside the Brewers camp that they were like,
Starting point is 00:47:06 they were, they were very excited about Freddie Peralta. We did say that. So I was the one who was like, wow, like, I need to see this pitching staff. And while I've seen them and I like him. Yeah. And then the bullpen help. They have, they have the playoff makeup.
Starting point is 00:47:20 They trade for a bat, bring back a bat or two. The Brewers are good team. That being said, it's really hard. Jake wanted us all to choose a team that's currently. not in a playoff spot that we think can be or will be at the end of the year. I'll go first. I, I, I, the AL, it's hard for me. It looks locked up.
Starting point is 00:47:39 It's hard for me to choose any of those teams and say, yeah, they're going to go get a spot. I mean, even the second wild card. And the NL, I think the wild cards are locked up, but I think the east and the central might be up for grabs. The only two teams in my mind, I'm interested to see where you guys go, are the reds or the Phillies. They're the only two teams I think could maybe steal the spot, but I like, I like the Brewers and I like the Mets to win.
Starting point is 00:48:06 So I'm going to go Reds, but I don't, but if I just had to choose a team just on the Brewers record versus over 500 teams being a negative record and the fact that the Reds can be one game out after three more wins. They just swept them. They sweep them again. They're one game out. But, I mean, I mean, I. I really don't think, I really don't believe that. So I like the Brewers more. But it's hard to choose a team.
Starting point is 00:48:36 Jake, did you, did you have one? A couple things. I think, and you know, I like, I haven't given this speech a lot. Something I like about the podcast and game is you stumble into stuff. And I think there's a couple main takeaways here. If you're a baseball fan, I think you should be rooting for the Cincinnati Reds. A, if the Reds can make it interesting with the Brewers, they are also the closest.
Starting point is 00:48:58 Wildcard team. They're three and a half out of San Diego. So if San Diego slips up, the Reds can make the Central interesting and the NL wild card interesting. So I think we're all Reds fans. So that's huge news. In the ALE, it's the opposite. And Jim, you love this. We're rooting against the A's, baby. If the A's come back to Earth, there's a lot of decent ball clubs in the mix. And like, like you guys are saying, everything seems fairly lock up. I wouldn't be surprised in two weeks if we're like, well, someone went 10 and 3 and now it's not. I think if I had to throw a dark horse team out there to maybe trip up the A's and catch them, what about what's going on in Toronto? We're talking about teams fighting for bullpen pieces and pitching.
Starting point is 00:49:47 Toronto Blue Jays, they have their young core. So when we did our trade episode on Toronto, I threw Kyle Gibson out there. We love Gibby. We're a Gibby pod. what it is is like they can trade for pieces that can be part of their timeline. Like it doesn't necessarily have to be rentals. If they get Kyle Gibson for the rest of this year and next year, you know, then you say, okay, we just penciled in another starting pitcher for next season. Like they can up their trade package a little bit because they know they're going to have their young core next year.
Starting point is 00:50:22 Like I don't think they sell off rental pieces. You have your dude. So it's a little optimistic and, hey, I think the betting numbers that Draft Kings could give you on it, you can make a chunk of change if it happens. But I'd circle a team like the Blue Jays. Like that franchise believes in their team that they should be adding to it no matter what. And you just need the Oakland A's to come back to Earth just a little bit and it becomes very real. You stole my team for me.
Starting point is 00:50:55 I was going to talk about Toronto. starting pitching's been surprisingly good. They found a guy like Manoa out of nowhere. Not out of nowhere. He's in their system, but he's coming up and had success. Robbie Ray is this year's Dylan Bundy. He's going crazy, and Ryu has been Ryu. It's the bullpen that needs a little bit of help there.
Starting point is 00:51:16 And I'll say this. And both teams are just going to prove me wrong. But like the A's and the Rays are kind of in the same boat for me. The Rays, obviously losing Tyler Glass, it's a huge blow to them. they just keep winning. I don't know how. And the A is seemingly just continue to win.
Starting point is 00:51:29 And sometimes I look at that team like, how are you guys winning? So I think either one of those teams could slip and have a, I mean, they're not going to. But just for the sake of this argument, either one of those teams, it's not like they're like these powerhouses
Starting point is 00:51:46 where you're like at least name recognition or on paper or whatever. Like they do find ways to win. But one of those teams can slip, the Rays go make a few, or the J's go make a few moves. I could see that happen. I have them, like the Js with a better chance than the Yankees.
Starting point is 00:52:02 Well, I mean, if judge is out for two weeks, the Yankees are for these next two weeks. That's another whole thing going on now. A COVID freaking bloodbath could be happening throughout the league, and that changes everything. I like what you guys are saying about Toronto. They just don't win in bunches. they only have one winning streak of more than three games in a row all season. And every other team that's in first place or having a good year or on the outs, you know, can put together a streak there.
Starting point is 00:52:38 And the Blue Jays just haven't. I don't know if it's because of the starting pitching or crazy schedule of moving stadiums. But like, you know, they just don't put together wins. I have a question. Before the season, if we said who is the best player on the Toronto Blue Jays? who would you have said it was. Gladdy. Not before this season.
Starting point is 00:53:00 I would say, I mean, yeah, I would have said Boba Shett, probably. They signed George Springer to a big boy deal. He's only played 20 games. He's been hurt the whole first half. George Springer is back on that team. He's been hurt. If they can add a little pitching, man. I mean, Ghibie seems like a must for them.
Starting point is 00:53:20 They're going to be going back to Toronto. That crowd is going to be going bonkers when they're. they get back. There's some juice. They're officially going back to Toronto. I don't think it's official official, but, or it actually might be, like, when I was in Buffalo. It might change that with L.A. going back to mandatory masks and
Starting point is 00:53:40 pop it up again and all that. I mean, seems like a bad time for Toronto to open their doors. Things, things can change. Go get vaccinated. Two days. I'm trying to stay partial on this. Two days ago, Blue Jays, Pose returned to Roger Center. So they're like actively working on it. So this is looking at this and I was thinking
Starting point is 00:54:05 it seems like a very low number. The Blue Jays have had 16 saves all year. Mm-hmm. You know, that's very, that's fourth from the bottom. Giants, on the other hand. 33. Like you got to have open up. You got to be able to win close games.
Starting point is 00:54:26 to have that and the jays don't like vermano's been good but they need more um if you look at the teams that are like this is pretty actually this is pretty crazy like the leaders and saves right now giants podres red socks dodgers white socks and then jim reds which is fucking surprising to me who's who's getting saves for the reds i just looked at their page guess who is the last player to get a save for the Cincinnati Reds. I have no idea. I'm seriously, I have no idea who's doing this. I mean, it's not Sims. He got hurt, right?
Starting point is 00:55:05 The last player to record a save for the Cincinnati Reds was Heath Embry. Oh, nice. He's having a pretty nice year. So good for him. Amir Garrett somehow has six saves. He's got a 6-5-1. I mean, their bullpins went bad. Actually, I'm corrected. Embry is listed as the closer and got a save on Saturday.
Starting point is 00:55:25 Josh Osich The Southpaw Got a save on Sunday He's been doing it Good for them, man Josh Yeah so I mean Not in your book
Starting point is 00:55:36 No not The Jays needs Js need some Bullpen help They want to make this A thing thing Thang thing Go get Gibby and Hearnh
Starting point is 00:55:45 Hunge Ian Kennedy Ooh Gibby was upset with you By the But he actually texted me Good I don't want to bring my phone
Starting point is 00:55:55 Because I'm gonna mess up My microphone Jake? Yeah, he said he watched your guy's draft thing. Yeah. The trade draft. And he said that you forgot to say that you get double points because he was an All-Star, so you didn't give him credit for being an All-Star.
Starting point is 00:56:09 Who did Jake, did you trade Gibby? Trev, why don't you tell Kyle Gibson I was a little fucked up? I mean, if it wasn't obvious, I don't know. I mean, Jesus. I watched that whole thing. I don't know how you guys did it. I was already sauced. I was at the CIA party by that point.
Starting point is 00:56:26 But that's a good episode though, right? Jimmy. I only watched the clips. And just because Ashland's in it, I know it's going to be funny. Jimmy's having a little mental warfare because A, he knows we were a little twisted up, but B, he thinks that's some of the best content we put out. I was, well, that's great then. I said I was going to keep this between Jake and I, but I'll share it.
Starting point is 00:56:49 It's pretty dushy. Jake and I are hilarious in that video. We're just throwing darts that no one. one sees the whole we're having our own show yeah like we're like having a whisper campaign in the middle jake so do that all the time do you think that's like unique to that video it was on another it was all the time together on another level jake is so stupid i don't know if you guys have watched the show dave on hulu it's about little dicky yeah i like dave we talk about it a lot show yeah okay well have you guys like seen like what him and benny blanco yeah like you guys are him and benny blanco
Starting point is 00:57:26 No, that's 100%. Jess was... You know what I'm talking about, right? You've seen that episode. My sweet Jessica was horrified by how much I love that scene. Oh, my God. Yeah. No, that is, that is you and Jesus.
Starting point is 00:57:41 College days used to be similar to that. I mean, us and our buddy, Nick, like, we entered that world. Jake opened up... Can Travis still hear us? Do you just ditch? I think so. I think he's got headphones on. I think so.
Starting point is 00:57:53 Jake opened up the Chris Rose episode by, writing Chris Rose was born without a penis on his note and then just showed it to everyone and it never got, I don't think it ever got it didn't get read aloud. I don't think it ever got read aloud, but at one point you show it to Rose. Yeah. And he just looks at, he's like
Starting point is 00:58:12 Jesus. Jesus. I was exploring the space. You guys, I heard everything. You guys are ridiculous. And honestly, I just thought of that comparison and it's perfect. You and Jake are Little Dickey and Benny Blanco. Hot.
Starting point is 00:58:29 Chuck. Don't go watch that unless you want to be like, it makes you feel a little bit uncomfortable. Obviously, what, when he puts his balls on his friend's head? Hmm. Like, and they really do it. It's not just like a suggestion or like, you know,
Starting point is 00:58:45 buddies. Do you know all of that's true? Like Little Dickey really does have holes in his dick. I mean, I just assumed it was. Yeah. Which kind of brings us. into our All-Star Game trip, right? Yeah, I mean, you guys both officially chose the Blue Jays.
Starting point is 00:59:05 Yeah. As your team, a little kid carrying spike ball up to the beach. Trev, take the Phillies. Well, let's share them. Let's each buy half stock. Well, Blue Jays, according to baseball reference, 40% chance to make the postseason. Let's see, the Reds, a little bit under,
Starting point is 00:59:25 38.3. I want to see what the Phillies are. What do you think? I don't know. Baseball reference has them as the division winner. 35%. We can do a little trip recap for those still interested. The trip was amazing, man.
Starting point is 00:59:44 I mean, it was, we packed so much stuff into it. I mean, we can talk about just kind of like not like John Boy Media and talk about the home run derby. The home run derby, I'll paint the scene a little bit. it. We, we all walk in to the home run derby and go to our seats in the bleachers, um, just dead center field. And as we get there, Moilin was next to me, uh, and we were all walking in, Otani hits his BP home run into the fourth deck and the entire stadium. And it's just BP. It's not the homer d'urber, but the entire stadium just went, oh, everyone. And Peter Moreland turned to me and Jake or
Starting point is 01:00:30 whoever else and he said, oh my God, this is all baseball fans. Because it was just like a realization that it's not a, it's not it wasn't a crowd of Phillies fans. It wasn't a crowd of Rockies fans. It wasn't a crowd of
Starting point is 01:00:46 Yanis fans. It was just a crowd of baseball fans and every team was represented and everybody in the stadium was rooting for one singular thing, home runs. There was no booing if this guy won. and that guy didn't win. Like, no one really cared who won at all, I don't think.
Starting point is 01:01:03 The entire stadium collectively was rooting for the same exact thing. So the vibe of the home run derby is just a good time. It's honestly just baseball fans, just like everyone was as happy as pigs and shit cheering for the same exact thing. So Moyland had like a realization where he was like, this is amazing. Like everyone here's a baseball fan. And I didn't, I knew that. the home run derby would be fun.
Starting point is 01:01:30 I thought it might get boring being there live because I didn't know like how, you know, if they keep is there in, is there entertainment, is their music, they pump music and, uh, it's not boring.
Starting point is 01:01:41 It was the most, it was the coolest event I've been to in a while. Uh, it's fun on TV. It's 10 times more fun being there. So if it ever comes to your town and you have the choice to go to the all star game or the home run derby, go to the home run derby.
Starting point is 01:01:56 I think so too. yeah yeah no we uh the the the atmosphere was electric when we got to our seats that was i mean i don't want to give away everything so i know we're doing vlogs and stuff like that but we got to the seats and i i kind of quickly decided that i wanted to be up in the concourse so ran up there because that's where there was just like i said it to you guys it was like a mosh pit up there when the balls were up it was like everybody going at it um caught wind of zach hample being there and So I made that kind of my mission to get a ball. I think the vlog comes out today, if I'm not mistaken.
Starting point is 01:02:39 Yeah, to watch the video to see if it works out. Trev. Put it this way. I was giving it my all up there. Trev, we reviewed some of your concourse footage yesterday, and it's fantastic. Oh, I didn't get to see that. It is A-plus. It is fantastic.
Starting point is 01:02:57 So you're incredible. I think I need, I need, No, I know. I know. Trevor, we were talking about it from that way. You'll be fine with this. You were incredible. I won't give it away, but incredible.
Starting point is 01:03:12 The home run derby, I told a couple of my buddies that asked, I was like, it's a bucket list thing. Like if you're a sports fan, you know, like you said, Jimmy, obviously tons of baseball fans in the building, but everyone rooting for it. And, you know, the energy you get when a guy hits three in a row, the energy you get when it's coming down the buzzer, the energy when a guy hits one somewhere that balls don't go in that stadium. They were clearing five Hyundai with ease. Easy, yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:44 That's silly. That's silly. So bucket list, I was planning on watching Yankees Red Sox canceled. So ESPN just ran back the home run derby. So I was watching it. C&R blue line of mischief. was awesome and that was fantastic and so Jess um you know she didn't realize that it was the homerun derby event that I was at she wasn't like watching uh so then when I explained it I was
Starting point is 01:04:16 like hey you see that blue line out there that's that's us and she was like you're re-watching the event you were at so she was pretty disappointed but then the next minute was right when we really got on TV I'm holding a hot dog screaming And she was like, and then she started watching it. And she's like, this is pretty fun. And I was like, yes. So a home run derby is a must. We've said a lot, but our top to bottom, we were out there with 18 people.
Starting point is 01:04:46 And every single person crushed it. The going away message from Moyland Wingert Rose is like, how is no one here an asshole? Like, how is there not one person that you're like? Well, yeah. And that's when I look in the mirror, and it's pretty tough. And you tell Peter to look in the mirror. Yeah, and that's a, Peter was spreading, he said two people lost their voice on the trip,
Starting point is 01:05:11 and he said to spread a rumor that they were making out late night. So. Making out with some blanche, yeah. That's whatever. But yeah, it was incredible. Our first giant, like, big trip. And it was awesome. So thanks to everyone.
Starting point is 01:05:28 Yeah, there's a lot of stuff coming. I mean, we played a full game of Blitzball that comes down to the last at bat. Like really some defensive gems, some really fun stuff. We, Jake and I went to the secret mission, seven in the morning. That'll be coming out, probably not for like a month. We did the front lawn games, which was fun, silly, stupid. That's one shot of Trevor on the tricycle. I've rewatched a million times.
Starting point is 01:05:53 You just look so cool, Trev. And then the watch party was amazing. So many people came out. So many people that listened to this show and said hi. And like, you know, it's amazing. So now it was, it was really cool. I hope we get to do it more. Obviously, we're going to grow and the company is going to grow.
Starting point is 01:06:13 So that one's going to be like a special place because, I mean, there's 18 of us. And the coolest part was, not the coolest part. Everything was cool. But man, just hanging out at the house. Like I know Moyland was in the chat earlier. So I'm not trying to get too romantic on him. But Peter Moyland's awesome. And Kelsey Winger, it felt like I was with old high school friends, just absolutely belly laughing.
Starting point is 01:06:35 Like belly laughing, playing ping pong in the kitchen, sitting around outside talking. Just the hangout time at the house was cool. And we don't get to do that a lot because we're all remote, you know? There's, you know, Trev, you're remote. They're remote. So that's cool. Yeah. I won three games, Peter 1-1.
Starting point is 01:06:56 Trev beat us both. Well, who is the champion, though? BDB He was playing sober Which we don't count Yeah You I was never Yeah
Starting point is 01:07:08 Bill beat me But I mean I took him to extras And I was Had a lot of stuff going on Yes It's fair Jake
Starting point is 01:07:17 It's basically if we're playing Your spin zone In the ping pong stuff right now Well okay What if we're playing like Backyard football And two people have You know cleats on
Starting point is 01:07:26 And then the other guys Have Wedding shoes that's what it is that's your shoes were you guys wearing I would and this you don't carry a pair of cleats around with you all the time
Starting point is 01:07:36 I wish I fuck it did for mine and Jake's secret mission pulled my hamstring I want to say this I could be in well I know I am in the realm of the Yankees COVID outbreak because judge
Starting point is 01:07:53 yeah certainly met up with Sisi at some point they probably crossed past right, you have to assume that. And me and Cece, you're rubbing elbows.
Starting point is 01:08:07 You think he remembers me? Probably not. But, like, we were. So I'm vaccinated, but I probably have COVID right now. Hell yeah. Okay. I'm basically part of the Yankees. I mean, Judge and G.O.B. Now, they just announced that they're going to play tonight.
Starting point is 01:08:21 The Red Sox and Yankees are playing, but, I mean. They could use you this weekend, Trev. I do want to say that we met some of the mods in the chat. And that was cool for me. I know them by their screen names, but then to put, you know, a face and a personality to them. So we met who met Josh? We met Fayo.
Starting point is 01:08:40 And then Fayo explained to me how he got his name, and it's kind of ridiculous. Josh, I think, just got named Josh. So that's cool. But that was fun, man. Jim, an interesting comment in the chat. When you were talking about ping pong, BTS Bill, he responded and he said,
Starting point is 01:08:59 wrong. Just wrong. I'm not wrong. Got got kind of again. Bill's sober. I didn't lose a game on the ping pong. So I beat everybody that I played. You beat me and Peter, yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:15 Playing ghosts. I also beat Maddie Mass. Oh, I didn't get to play Maddie. Hot. Yeah, he was like pretty upset about it. We got to get a table for wherever we can fit a table on all the new shit that I don't want to talk about because it's not for sure yet. Next trip everywhere.
Starting point is 01:09:34 Moyland said that that score like me and him, it's going to be like a forever thing. The funny thing about Peter Moyland is our games were incredibly close. Yeah. They came down to like the final score and the rallies were long. So we're like the same exact skill. I just had a little more heart and hustle than him, I guess. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:52 Can we, me and Jake found out a lot of things about Peter Moreland. We had some late night talk. Once you get past 2 a.m., like that's when the real stuff starts coming out. You know, we had two nights in a row, two three a.m. nights in a row. That was, well, you, Trevor, were you there for the Eno Saris stuff, the math stuff? I know you were there when he came, but Eno, Eno came over. We love Eno. And he was sitting outside in, in the backyard and circle. I wasn't in the circle, but I overheard it. And at one point,
Starting point is 01:10:21 Jake was there. And since Eno's, uh, uh, analytics guy and the saber metrics guy, they were just screaming math problems at Eno. Yeah. And he was solving. I wasn't there for that but I could see that happening I mean I think I remember hearing like 64 times 7 and he noticed that was like the entertainment just he was the math monkey of the circle
Starting point is 01:10:44 he's he's smart I don't know I think he already put this out on his Twitter so we could we could say it he came over to our house on a scooter from downtown and first he said he got hit by a car Yeah. And I was like, holy shit, are you okay? And then when he explained, he's like, actually, I ran into it. No, no. He's, I mean, Eno's trying to act like it was his fault, but it, it's not entirely. It's his story to tell. But I don't think, I think the car ran into him, but he feels bad about the placement he was in. He, he feels like they had no other. They had no other option. But he did come over and say, I just got hit by car. He, he feels like he didn't put the car in the best position to succeed. Me and Moyland had to kick someone out of the house, tag team of that pretty well.
Starting point is 01:11:30 Treb, do you remember that? Because that was actually a hilarious line by you. Because they. You got real. There were some negative. There were some negative people. But dude, Jake, you should have heard it because Trebs playing ping pong against Moylan. And then someone at the party says, how good this be an after party when you don't even have music?
Starting point is 01:11:49 And Trev's initial response was to like be nice about it. And you're like, hey, hey, yeah, sorry, we're working on it. And then he goes back to ping pong and he has like a moment of pause. And he goes, but that's. a pretty negative attitude and you should change it. It's like, hey, wait, that sucks. And then me and more than have to kick her out to like five minutes later. That was funny.
Starting point is 01:12:12 We don't need the negativity. No, I mean, why? Do we end up playing music? Who was playing music? They did eventually figure out getting the YouTube on the TV and pulling stuff up. Who needs music? I love that. Jake and said.
Starting point is 01:12:26 We had a great time, man. That was fun. There's a lot different than our spring train. trip, I'll say that. Come on. Well, we might be doing another RV trip soon. Teaser. Well, I don't think we're going to sleep in the RV trip, so don't worry.
Starting point is 01:12:40 I actually want to buy a Sprinter van and then just take out the background and put a, like, a little car table in the back. I love sprinter vans. I think, I think we should go school bus, though. Okay. Did you, did you see the clip of, uh, Trabb? Did you see the clip of Moylan arresting Jake? That's good. No.
Starting point is 01:12:58 Oh, it's on Twitter. You need to find it. clip. Jake's so bad at leaving. You put out so much content. So I told Moreland to go carry him out of the bar. Oh, I did see it from the watch party. Yeah, yeah. That's so funny. I just want to thank everyone for coming. I found
Starting point is 01:13:12 something out about you on this trip, Jake. It's that you don't mind just lying on disgusting dirty floors. You'll just like plop down and lie on them. Even if it's at the airport or a bar that people have been running
Starting point is 01:13:27 and out of all day. Germs are for worms, Trev. Shows exist, you know? I think there's things that could be worse. There's jobs out there where they stick their arm inside cows assholes. So, I mean, what's Jake laying on the ground getting into? Yeah, but you know, Jen, they put a like a plastic over the arm. Not the raw dog, not the best of the best. I've got skin.
Starting point is 01:13:53 Protect it. It's your largest organ in your body. Yeah. All right. I'm in one in the episode there. Tune in for all the content. I mean, pray for Zach. Editor Zach because the trip ended for us.
Starting point is 01:14:06 A trip did not end for him. He's got a lot of hard to work. It sucks. See you guys. Thank you very much. Chris Rose. Rose, he's the best. Hot.
Starting point is 01:14:17 Chick sucks. Joe's Keith Ashland. Big baby David, the standing goal? We're the number one fucking show in the world.

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