Talkin' Baseball (MLB Podcast) - 364 | Trade Deadline Talk & Team USA (with Jeff Passan)

Episode Date: July 21, 2021

Jomboy, Jake, & Plouffe called up dear friend Jeff Passan to discuss his article previewing next week's MLB trade deadline and also discuss the Olympics that will kick off this weekend. Go to https://magicspoon.com/baseball to grab your delicious cereal and try it today! Be sure to use our promo code 'BASEBALL' at checkout to save $5 off your order! Presented by DraftKings Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Hello and welcome to talking baseball. A little trade deadline chatter, little team USA talk. A little fun in the sun talking baseball. But we're indoors. Hello and welcome to talking baseball. Brought to you by Draft Kings, thank you very much for tuning in, hanging out with us for a little bit. It is the midweek episode. So for our crowd that usually tunes in live, we're not live.

We're premiering. There's always comments like, wait, it's not live? No. Because sometimes we like to do interviews. Oh, no, we're live. Shout out to Llewellyn in the chat. Zendino. You guys are the best.

We love you. Fayelle. Oh, faya, that's hilarious. That was Jake. Trevor's here looking good in his blue shirt. I like that color blue. B.BD in the corner wearing his loop jersey. And I'm wearing my, I love baseball shirt, which is basically my uniform at this point in time.

Do we have any recent page? I will bring them up to check it out. Clicked the link. It's spinning. It's loading. We're there. It says Sev. Sev.

And Aaron Stenga. Stenga. I think that's how it's said. Someone met us at the bar. Came to the event in Denver. I think it was at the bar in Denver. Someone met us when we were in Denver and just said, yeah, you absolutely butchered my name.

Forget what it was. It's tough. Oh, man. I was like Duder. It was like, because I said it like, I said Doudor and it was Duder or something like that. So, yeah, anyway, Trev, how are you doing? Oh, you're muted or we can't hear that? Brutal.

Immediate snag. Immediate issue. Jake, how are you doing? I'm good. I feel bad for Trev. He was wrestling some tech earlier. Now he looks. He's crispy. He's trying to re-chrisp and uncrisp. I'm good. I'm good. Exciting part of the season, man. Trade deadline. We're actually in an exciting part of the sports world right now. Olympics coming up. Trevor Plouf wants to talk about that in a little bit. NBA finals are finishing up and then the NBA draft is going to be in a couple weeks. So right after the trade deadline. So we're kind of in a sports apocalypse. So I'm loving that. But man, this next week of baseball,

it's crazy how much a six-game stretch is going to affect the moves that general managers are going to make. And, you know, some of those moves have ripple effects into two years, five years. I mean, if it's a prospect, shut up, Jake. So I'm doing good. Trev, do we have you back? I'm back. And, you know, I get so angry at electronics. I know it's a bad look.

It makes me look old, but it is so frustrating sometimes. sometimes. But I feel like I got a handle on it now. I think we're good. I think we're going to be crispy the rest of the time. I'm doing great. I'm excited to talk about, yes, Team USA headed to the Olympics. We'll go into that. We have a bunch of topics. This is going to be a nice little smorgas board of topics. Trev, I know that. I've probably asked you these. We've had these conversations last year around the deadline or maybe even just in the offseason around the deadline. But we do have a ton of new listeners. as we've continued to grow and grow and grow.

Thank you. So for anyone that hasn't heard or is interested or maybe they forgot, can you talk about trade deadline season in the clubhouse? And what times your name was being floated around, how you handled it, guys that were in the clubhouse with you that 100% knew they were on the move and all the teammates knew they were on the move and what that vibes like. Or once a guy gets traded, what's the vibe like there? can you just talk about clubhouse trade deadline times yeah it's all different i mean it kind of depends

on where you're in the standings if you're you know in minnesota there's a lot of times that we weren't looking to add and so if you're a big piece and you know you didn't have a ton of years of control you knew those guys were gone and you try not to think about it as much as possible like that's kind of what you do in baseball it's it's easy it's easier than other sports to avoid that because you're playing every day. So your focus is the game. The best part of the trade deadline would be when you're going to add. You're like, okay, who are we going to get? Can we get somebody? You're, you know, constantly making remark to the manager to the GM when he comes in the clubhouse. Like, are we going to do something? We got something here. That didn't

happen too often over there in Minnesota for us. But it's an exciting time, I think, more for fans of the team than it is for the team because if you're winning yeah you want to add but you do have the confidence in the guys that are like in the room so you can't be so boisterous about like yeah we need to add we need to add because look we got here with these guys and you don't want to see somebody have to leave and then you know the other way if you're losing it's like sometimes you're happy for those guys to get out of there because it's dreadful to be in a season full of losses because it's like I just said, it's day after day after day. One scene that always stuck in my brain was when Bobby Abrae who got traded from the Phillies

to the Yankees and he found out in the middle of the game and he was sitting in the dugout and some of his teammates came over with shaving cream and just started shaving his face like in the middle of the game and they're all excited. And I was so young at that point, I was like, you know, middle school or high schooler and I was like, what? Why aren't they mad that they're losing a teammate? why aren't they like sad that they're losing a teammate because I was just a little kid but it was always like huh okay they're excited for him because he gets to go on a contender now and move on yeah and when he's absolutely a guy like him who had an incredible MLB career to get an opportunity to jump in the chase like that um I know this is a little off of it but do you do you have any good because we always get blown away by the trade like and I I forget did you find out on a plane or I I I forget your story, but there's always the trade story where it's like,

yeah, I found out, I grabbed everything in my apartment, and I just got on the next flight. Was yours like that, or do you have any teammates that it was just chaos, like sprinted out of the dugout, caught a bird, and got to the next game? Mine wasn't exactly like that because I had been designated, so I was sitting around, and then there comes a, like a claim period and all that stuff. So I was kind of sitting around waiting for it to happen. But, you know, when those teams do trade for you, they want you. Like, we just gave up, you know, pieces for you.

Like, come help our team. Like, we want you to be on our roster right away. So typically, dude, those guys, yeah. Like, if you have a say, you know, you're playing in Minnesota and you get shipped somewhere, like somebody else is packing your apartment up for you. You're not packing your apartment up. You got to go. You take your personal belongings.

You take your baseball gear and you go somewhere. And then whoever is, you know, the club. house guys will help you pack up like sometimes it's your family that'll come over and pack your stuff up but it's a it's a whirlwind man and to change like that in the middle of the season there's so much that goes into it you know they make it easy for the ball players because like it's just you just go and do your thing it's all the stuff after it you know then people happen to find you a new place a short-term lease and i don't think people kind of at least think about it enough like how much of your world is impact and you get kids like their school and it's a lot that goes into it man that's why guys love

the no trade clause like when you can get a no trade clause you're like i'm taking the no trade clause man looking at that bobby abray you trade and maybe this is like a good reason like to go make trades and not prospect hug no one that the fillies got in return got MLB time that's why people are so crazy with all the prospect capital and i want you to hoard it like yeah For every Fernando Tatis Jr., there's 100 guys that are replacement level or worse. You know, you have to do it. It's tough to do at the big league level, man. Got time is wrong.

Carlos Monastrios played in 32 games one season for the Dodgers started 13. That's his only time. Matt Smith. Yeah, and Matt Smith played in 30. games. But I mean, the Yankees traded their number one pick. I'm sure there were people saying like, why are we trading all these prospects? And like, none of them made it. Just make trades if you need to go get a guy. Bobby Abray was an all-star at the time and had a bunch of years left on his contract. So I'm sure that like at the time, some people were like, this is a risky one. It's like, well,

it didn't work out for the Yankees in terms of championship, but definitely didn't hurt him. Make trades. I will say this. I think that people are more able to correctly scout the minor leagues. Like you can, there's ways to identify markers now for players. Like, okay, this guy's doing this at this level at this age. Like, there's a lot more data now where I feel like more often than not when you get those guys to come up,

the big names that have been big prospects, like they tend to work out more than they don't. And I don't know if there's any stats to back that up at all. they're not going to have like crazy initial success we've seen it with Wander we've seen that with uh... Kellenick Kelnick Which one is it?

Kelnick, Kelnick. Kelleck. Sorry, dude. Uh, but yeah, like I think now we're getting better at grading these guys. So maybe there's a, there's a scenario where you're like, okay, I'm going to hold on to this guy because we know he's a guy. And Trevor, I think there has to be numbers on that. Uh, because A, I mean, we, we evolve as a society and there's

internet and think of all the camps and all that stuff where, you know, back in the day, we laugh, I'd probably say once a month, David Cohn on the broadcast, he didn't have a high school team. So it's, you know, he was in, where was he, Kansas? So what do you do with that? A kid's throwing at his barn, you know, when he goes to the minors, you're going to find out pretty quickly if he's going to stick or not, where today, you know, half of the kids in California and Florida, they play AAU together.

and they've mingled. And now that we can tell, now that we've gone to the next level with Rapsoto and you can measure a dude's spin and all that stuff, I do think the prospect stuff is getting better. But at the same time, you mentioned Kelnick, and we've got to mention J.P. Crawford, because we're a Mariners pot and a J.P. Crawford pot.

But Kelnick, like, he came up and he got beat up a little bit. And that final step is still the step we have no idea about. When you go to the show, you know, Jared Kelnick could be good. He could be a... He could be a perennial all-star. He could be a 260, 22 homers a year. That's pretty nice. He can come in a little below that.

I mean, once you get to the show, you find out. So I guess this turned into an early PSA. If you're a prospect hugger, I know, who is it, the White Sox that traded away Tatis? You're daydreaming about if he was on the team right now. But those stories are a lot less than the Bobby Abreu example we fell into today. Yeah, I'm in a trap now because... Oh, Jimmer. Because I don't know when he made his money and how long he signed with the Phillies.

But all the Phillies writers called the Bobby Braet trade, like the worst thing ever at the time it happened. So there you go. But how long was like arbitration of that stuff? it eight seasons long. Because he didn't hit, he must have signed an extension. This is not on time. Yeah, I don't have the 1997 CBA in front of me, but I can get it. I'm mad about it.

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IMO. In an Australian accent for sure. How many numbers is it? Two, just two. What? Two? Yeah. Dude, I, I'll, the East Coast is insane with the numbers you guys use.

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I actually, on the box, they have the, how they get the sugar flavor, like where it comes from. And I was reading it as I was eating. And I was like, that's wild. It is. It's like wild sugar, actually. All right, let's get to this. Our dear friend Jeff Passon wrote an article today where he has conversations with himself like a lunatic.

And we like pulling these up. And Trev said, let's discuss some stuff on here. But go read it yourself. We're not going to talk about everything. I'll start his opener, open my eyes. Because Byron Buxton, I'm not in Twins world. I'm not reading the newspapers and the Twitters from all the twins people. I didn't know he was close to healthy, Trev.

And I didn't notice, no, he's still a trade piece. If people think they can trade for him and one, he can rehab a little, come back for them, be playoff ready, at least defense and speed. That's still a defensive need. And he's got a year attached for next year. So, you know, you kind of, I love trading for Buxton now. Because even if the bat's not there, he still brings really good things to the team if the legs are there and the speeds there as like a defensive replacement type guy,

which I know he's more than that, but you get him for next year. So you can let him slow play into that role. Trevor, I'll let you go because you know the dude. You know, I do know Byron. I am in Twinkieville and I'm all over the socials with them and stuff. So basically, this is the gist that I have gotten. I don't know how accurate this is. I haven't like prodded at any of the front office guys that I know or anything.

but they're saying we're going to try to extend this guy and I think they see it as an opportune time for them because he is hurt he also so there so in regards to that their extension it'll be a good chunk of a change but he's when healthy elite player a $20 million plus guy and I think they're going to try to get him at a discount here

maybe somewhere around like a 15 so they're going to offer them him this extension and if he takes it, they're happy, and if he doesn't, well, now they have one of the best trade pieces in all the baseball. I mean, at the time of his injury, he hasn't played since May 6, I believe.

But 409 OBP, slugging 76 for a 1.1er. I mean, the guy was playing at MVP pace. I mean, he's accumulated 2.9 more, which I bet you is still in the top 20 of all players. He hasn't played since May 6th. Let me repeat that. So the guy is an elite dude, and he's only...

27 right now with a year of control. So, yeah, I mean, if he truly is available, if they don't get the extension done, then there's no limit to the suitors for this guy, although you're going to have to pay up. And that's where I was somewhat surprised that brother Jeff opened the article with a big Buxden part, because Jim, what you're saying is very true.

Like, Byron Bucks in, I mean, speed, defense, that'll always travel, that'll always play at a special level. The past three years, Buxton's hit. He had an 827 OPS in 2019. He had an 844 OPS last year over his last 153 games, 153, those last three years. He's got a 903 OPS. Like, the dude's been hitting for a while. And that's my concern about him being traded.

He's super talented, Uber talented. The only question for me, and I think a lot of people around baseball at this point, to staying on the field. So that's, and trades always come down to value. So how can you value Byron Buxton? A guy that when he was right early on this year, he was leading the league in war. He was like a head and shoulders above everyone. He was past trout.

Like he was rolling when this dude is healthy and on the field at this point. And Treve, we actually, I forget if it was before the season and the TPP early this season, but Byron Buxton was the best player on. on 100-win Minnesota Twins. And when you think about it like that, it kind of changes your focus. So that's where, I don't know, if you're a team trading for Byron Bucks

and you're going to have to pay. The Twins are going to ask for a lot, a guy that plays at a very high level, but the one risk is injury. So, hey, if you trade- That's everybody's risk, though. I mean, that's anybody's risk. And I hate that he gets tagged as this.

I mean, I don't mean to cut you off him, but you can finish your point. I understand what you're saying, Trev, but at the same time, there are guys that don't have an injury history. Like Byron Bucks and his game logs, going back to 2016, 92, 140, 28, 87, 3927. This guy hasn't played 100 baseball games in one year since 2017. So there's a lot of players that could come back and say, hey, I'm on the field, you know, for a buck 40 pretty much every year. So I very much understand what you're saying But man, if you are the team that pays up

And we just talked about prospect hugging You buy in immediately It's the easiest sell to yourself Because this guy is uber talented Yeah, and I wasn't saying that he'd just be Defensive Fleming's Speed Because I know he can hit He's got a hand, he broke his hand

So I'm saying if you don't know How much you can get out of him this season There's still value with next year Attached. I know. wasn't doubting his hitting. I was just saying the injury might linger who knows how long it's going to take. So I, I hadn't thought about him as a trade piece until I read Passon's article. And now I kind of like, ooh, that's a fun one. So I'm not sure if Jeff mentioned this. I did

read the article, but I forget if you mentioned this. The fact that he hasn't been on the field a lot also plays into his value. Because you know that when he is on the field, and I think anytime you trade for someone, you're like, okay, I'm envisioning this guy on the field. for us. You don't think, hey, he's going to get injured, whatever, whatever. So the fact that he's only played 27 games this year, so finish up with whatever it is, under 100 again, that means his last year of arbitration is going to be, what's he making this year? Yeah, six five this year. Jeff does mention that. It looks like he's going to be seven or eight next year, which brings in some of the smaller market teams who wouldn't normally be in on the 20 million

guy. So that, that really is an interesting twist. Yeah, they've been talking about that, you know, all my guys that cover the twins very well. Aaron Gleman is a fail. Shout out Aaron Gleman. He covers them really well. Gleeman and the geek. They always give a shout-outs on Twitter and stuff, so I have no problem shouting him out. But they, yeah, I mean, they've been talking about this. And then, you know, not only is Bucston possibly available. And there's my guy who, my ace, Berrios. And there's, there's a nice Barrios section. And, I, Not to put the Burrios section down, but we've done it before.

And like any team wants a young starting picture with his track record. Like even if you think there's more in the tank, which we talked about, even if he's the Jose Brrios we've seen, any team can use that guy. I think the one that's interested and kind of made my head do a ding noise was they're saying, and could you imagine this, Josh Donaldson's contract right now doesn't look great. It's a lot of money. Donaldson's had his own stuff going on. a team like, man, imagine if the Mets go nuclear

and you can get Buxton at a cheaper price because you take on Donaldson's little extra on his contract. Like that, like, could you imagine being that fan base? And it's trade deadline day, and it's the Mets, it's whoever it is. And you get Donaldson, who's got an MVP in the bag, and, you know, he can still put together a month with anybody in the league. And Byron Buxton, who's got all the tools like, that's the kind of stuff that it, that changed.

That changes an outlook. Donaldson has the rest of this year, which will probably be around $11 to $15 million or, you know, 10 to 15 somewhere in there. And then he's got two more years at $22, basically, million. So you'd be taken on like, let's just say very simple, dumb math, around 60 mil of cash for two more years of Donaldson, one more year of Buxton.

And you get their help for the remainder of this year. That seems not that bad of a move for a team that wants to be. And the first cracket, the first cracket extending Buxton as well. Yes. So that seems like not a bad move for a team that has money and is at the beginning of a window or, you know, still in a window like the Mets. That'd be a nice little package. All right. So that's done.

Yeah. Anything else stand out? I mean, the Buxton one for me was like the eye opener. I mean, I don't want to read the whole article. We can go check it out. I mean, I think we can tap in. a guy that's pretty well versed in the article. But yeah, I guess part of the takeaway from this,

we've had the Cubs circled all year. If they fell out, you know, that team had so many guys. The Twins is the one that's out of left field. And we've talked about it a little bit, but I kind of wonder the vibe from their front office because we've also said, you know, that team can also, you hear teams saying like, oh, we're not rebuilding, we're just going to reload.

And a lot of teams are just spewing stuff out there, mouth. The twins have an actual argument. They've got so much talent still on that team. If you rework the pieces, you'd like to think we can talk about the twins next year. So I wonder what the rumors are around that front office if the fire sale is coming or if, you know, you got to make the godfather offer to get Byron Buxton and then they'll do it. It's a huge decision for those guys. And those guys, I mean, I'm going to forget their name is right as I was about the same. You had it so. Thad Levine, is that who it is?

Nadlevin and the, oh, man. I know who these guys are. I'm just forgetting their names. But this regime, Derek Falvey. This regime, I mean, if you blow it up, that's, now what? Yeah. No, they came into a bountyful organization with a lot of young talent that needed to build around. Basically, they didn't do that.

Like, they needed to bring in pitching. and they didn't do that. Like this is, they got my Ada, which that's great, but like you need more than that and they didn't do it. And it's been the same old song and dance in Minnesota. Their offense is good.

Even without Buxden, go look at the numbers. Team offensive stats, the twins are going to be, you know, like a top seven, top five team. But the pitching,

starting pitching in particular has just been bad. And same old freaking song and dance, man. It's tough. Andrelton Simmons is on that team Jay Hap if you're looking for some innings No people they are yeah The Twins we happily get rid of Hap right now

They are not happy in Twinsville Twins Territory is what it's called But I don't really like that I like Twinsville Twinkieville Sounds very Dr. Seuss They're not happy with all Hap right In Twinsville we say everything twice

In Twinsville we say everything twice Twinsville is actually a convention that happens in Ohio for all our twin. Actually, where does the twin convention happen? I think it's Ohio. I think it's Ohio. Ooh, like twins's twins. Yes.

Like, a lot of sex. I'm sorry. Twins always creep me out a little bit. Yeah, yeah, Twins Day Festival. It's in Twinsburg, Ohio. I mean, if you're a twin and you're listening, you can go, it's super creepy. Like, don't Google pictures. Like, basically what you do is you bring your twin, you look out, you both try to find a pair

of twins you think is hot, and you go at it. for a weekend. That's not. I wonder what it is. Do you think they go and talk about the secret languages that they've developed or like is there any, is it ESP that goes on between them?

Because I know I just said it's weird. I find it fascinating. I find it fascinating. It's pretty wild. When you know a set of twins, like for instance, I know Taylor Rogers and Trevor, Trevor Rogers.

They tried to trick me. thinking that one was going to be the other, and I knew right away. But, like, when you get them next to each other, there is this vibe. It's like this energy when you put two twins together that other siblings, like siblings that are born at different times, don't have that. I like reading Trevor Plus stuff. Yeah, man, the Twins Festival. That's my thoughts on the Twins community.

The Twins Festival is wild, man. It's just a weird place. Go to the Google images. Yeah, we were roommates with twins in college. and if you if you if you if you if you if you if you if you if you if you if you if you're at a party with them and say oh you guys twins they'd fight you're getting fought yeah oh snap that was lit no we're cousins yes we're twins yeah sick of answering that question so I'm to fight you should we call brother Jeff yeah we should call passing but I have a I have a deal with our friends that are twins their name are Justin and Evan if they both get married to us to another set of twins yeah and then they And they both and pregnant their wives at the same times. And both of their wives also are pregnant with twin boys. They have to legally contract them to sign name both boys Justin and Evan.

So that way when him and his brother take their two sons to the park, it's, it's, hey, I'm Justin. This is my brother Evan. These are his kids Justin and Evan. And these are my kids, Justin and Evan. And they all have the same DNA and look alike. Let's get to Passing. Let's get passing. Hello.

Is this Mr. Passon? God, the audio is faint. Yes, we might be very quiet. We're a faint audio pod. I think we figured it out. I think I turned it up a little bit. Okay. You usually talk pretty loud.

I know. We're using, it's usually different. But I don't even know, Trev, can you say something, Trev? Hello, Jeffrey. Yeah, there's no way he can hear me. Okay. Oh, yeah, the way we're doing it, I don't think you can hear Trevor. We'll relay any of Trevor Plu, former Minnesota third baseman's questions.

How you doing, brother Jeff? Great. I'm outside. You know, my kid went to camp. So the thing that I didn't realize or didn't really dawn on me is when you send your kid to camp, like all the things that he does around the house, he doesn't do anymore. So I'm picking up dog poop right now. Great. And we are joined by dog shit, Jeff Passon.

What's your technique on the dog poop picking up? Do you, are you walking around and filling up the entire scooper with like as much as can fit? Or are you a one at a time drop it, one at a time drop it? Bag on the right hand and open bag held by the left hand. And I pick up with my bagged right hand. and drop into the single left-handed bag. So you don't have a, you don't have like a claw grip?

You're bending over every time you pick up. Dude, we're in the Midwest here. We, like, we have a good relationship with, with animal feces. Have you ever had your hand inside a cow's butthole?

I have, no, I cannot say that I have. Okay. Well, those are the real poop heroes. Anyway. Wait,

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, who, who and why? What's the question? Who has their hand up cow's asses? Is that the question? Have we lost you? Have we lost them? Should that be it? No, I'm still here.

I'm just, I'm confounded by the poor audio signal and by the cow rectum. Who is sticking their arm up a cow's butt? think the people that inseminate the cows. Like vets. Vets, yeah. Paris Hilton did it once for her show. Right, right. I thought this was something that you guys had done.

Like, I'm not from the Midwest, so I have no idea. I don't know what it's like over there. I know, but it's, yeah, but it's, it sounds like something that, like, somebody from New York might do, like, on a drunken dare or something like that. Like, hey, I'm going to go stick my fist up a cow's butthole. Okay, sounds great. Shut up. Is that not a Jimmy and Jake conversation? I mean, we'll add it to our content schedule.

Trevor says that he agrees with you. He says good point. Shout up to Keene, New Hampshire this weekend. I also want to let Jeff know that I was the one to suggest his article. Plouf also wants us to let you know that he was the one to suggest that we talk about your article and have you on today. Well, thanks, Treve. I appreciate that. Let's talk about the article as long as the audio can hold up here. I'm not sure.

This feels like a tenuous situation where we're tightrope walking, and at any time it can just turn disastrous. We'll see. You're crystal clear, so that's the good news. One quick question. If Craig Kimball does not get traded to the Astros, Dodgers, or Red Sox, will you allow Jake to run your Twitter account for a day? Absolutely not.

Okay. So you're guaranteeing he goes to one of those three teams? No, I'm not guaranteeing he goes to one of those three teams. I very readily admit the fact that things can change on a dime. And if I handed my Twitter account to Jake, I assume, in the over-under, I would place it two hours. I would get fired. Okay.

Right? Well, like Jake, you would, you would definitely execute a fireable offense for me. Would you not? Like, for the lulls? I mean, what's fireable? I mean, I don't know. It's 2021, man. People are a lot more open.

I think the answer is a lot. Yeah. No, it happened pretty quickly. Jeff, let's, you open up with a couple. I won't give away the article. We want them clicks. But there's a lot of twins, Trevor Ploof's, Twins are listed a lot.

Are they the, everyone's had the Cubs circled from the start of the year if they fall out? Are the twins the other like trade line kingpin for this trade deadline? Yeah, I think so. I mean, you've got other teams like the Nationals could be that just if they put Max Scherzer on the market. And I think the Nationals are that team that is going to fight. till the very end. And then, you know, considering Max Scherzer has 10 and 5 rights and considering Scott Boris has alluded to the possibility of him wanting some sort of compensation, whether it's in the form of an extension, which is not going to happen, or perhaps some sort of an assignment bonus or something long. left line.

Max Scherzer being moved needs to, like the wheels need to start on that about now to realistically get that across the finish line by the 30th. So that leaves the Cubs who it's mostly a question of just how many guys are they going to trade and the twins, which is just how much are teams going to be willing to give up to try and force their hand into moving Jose Barrios and Byron Bucson in particular. Because the twins remind me a lot of like 2016 when they just stunk for no apparent reason one year and came back to next year with like the same talent and we're really good again. I look at this team, I look at this roster, I look at this talent.

And I understand their pitching hasn't been very good this year. but they've still got a lineup when Buxton is healthy in particular. But with Donaldson, with Cruz, with Polanco, with Kepler, I think Alex Kirillof's going to be really good. You know, Mitch Garber, like they've got guys who can hit. And so they should be better than they actually are. And I think if they're looking to next year, you know, they would be better than they actually are. if they kept Buxon and Burrios, but this could be one of those things where

you don't do a rebuild, you do a reset with some of the young talent that you get, and if you nail those two trades, you're right back in it. Yeah, I'm trying to think if there's any differences I can think of between the 2016 twins and the 2017 twins. Well, the 2016 twins,

I'm not looking at the stats, but I know they were probably off to one of the best starts in baseball before they lost their third baseman. Yeah. Tangerie. Jeff doesn't know what he used. He can't even hear me now. I can't even like have a discussion.

I'm translating for you, Trevor. Yeah. Where's the middle of hand? No, I can't. I got you there. Oh, he could hear you there. Oh, he had you. Tref, I think the key is Jimmy and Jake shutting up.

Yeah. That is the key. Jeff, you kind of hurt my feelings there a little bit because I was part of the 2016 twins, they axed me the following season they go to the playoffs for the first time since 2010. So it hurt a little bit, but I will say your assessment of the talent that we had, the talent that was there next year, was spot on.

I really don't have anything to say because you're right. We were horrible in 2016. What did we start off there, Jim? 0 and 7? The 2016 Twins, you lost the first game of the season via walkoff and the sixth game of the season via walk-off and you didn't win a game until

the 10th, 0 and 9 to start. Oh. That was tough. Jeez. Well, I'm glad I'm... I'm looking at this right now and I'm pretty sure the... No, it's pretty much the same team

minus Trevor Plupe. He's a cancer in the clubhouse. That's what everyone always said about me. That's a good laugh. We like that. The other thing that I liked about your article... Actually, you know, no, you know what happened in 2017? They got Chris Jimenez.

Chris Jimenez is like that guy whose teams always win, right? Like Johnny Goams? Yeah. I mean, he's like Johnny Gohms without the ring, maybe. Okay. Can appreciate that. Chris Jimenez shout out. Wow.

I'll tell you what happened in 2017, boys. Yeah. Jose Barrio showed up. 2016, you had an 8. Okay, 2017, he had a 3-8. So that's, that helps a team a little bit. Yeah, that'll do it. That'll do it.

I'm looking at the bullpen. It's always a bullpen game, isn't it? Like, you go and look at the, well, actually, now the bullpen was a lot better. That was horseshit in 2016, too. There were some, that's the thing. If you look at that bullpen in 17, like, there were some dudes who weren't dudes yet. Like Ryan Presley's a dude now, he was not a dude then. Tyler Duffy's a dude now, was not a dude then.

Taylor Rogers was dudeish, but not entirely dude Lee and became quite the dude. I'm a dude, you're a dude, we're all dudes. Good burger, good movie. That was a very good pull there. Thank you. I like that's it. I'm not sure if I've watched any movie over the last. year more than Good Burger.

Excuse me? So what are you at? You got to be like three? One, two? How many times do you watch Good Burger? No, I've, no, I've seen that movie 25 times. My kids love that stupid movie. That's a good movie.

It's a good movie. The thing that always gets me is they call their chicken nuggets good chunks. Seems like a very weird thing to call chicken nuggets. When I was a little kid, I love the joke when he says, How does $10 sound? And then he says, like this, just rubs $10 bill together. It's a bad joke, but I love it.

All right. I want to talk about something you mentioned in the article. You said that a lot of teams, and you pointed at Steve Cohen's tweet, aren't going to move early in July here. So do you think that we might not even get like the regular season fireworks? We're just going to get grand finale. July 30th is going to be nuts. Not necessarily, and here's why.

Let's look at what the Chicago Cubs theoretically have to do. They can't let everything pile up on that last day and try and juggle it, right? I mean, I guess they could, but it makes sticking the landing that much more difficult. Like, I think, and I for a long time was in this boat, too, I think we failed to, understand the difficulty of decision-making in the moment. It's why over time, like, I've sort of done the 180 on managers. You know, when I first started covering baseball, I was like, oh, yeah, manager's super important. Then I was like, oh, wait, you know, managers are just essentially following a script.

But then, like, over the last few years, I've come to the realization that I'm sorry, but scripts don't anticipate all the things that go on during a baseball game. And managers have to process that information extraordinarily quickly and make decisions that a lot of times are going to go and backfire on them, even if they were the proper decisions to be made. This July 30th this year is the chance that general managers and front offices get to make those snap decisions because you don't know what a team is going to offer you. You don't know how you're going to react. You don't know whether to take it to other teams and push them or

by pushing them, you're going to push too far and they're going to go and pivot somewhere else. It's just a lot of different balls in the air. And that's for like one guy. Imagine if you're the Cubs and you're trying to do this if you've held on to Bryant and Kimbrel and potentially Bias and potentially Rizzo and Chafin and Davies and potentially Patera. Like there's just a lot going on with the Cubs. And so I think just for the sheer purpose of trying to do this in the proper process-oriented way, saving it all for the last day would be a bad idea and a difficult thing to execute. So I don't think that everything's going to be on the last day.

but, you know, if shit goes down, I think the shit's going down on the 29th of the 30th. I love it. So, we saw the jock trade early and it almost feels like you either do a trade like today, the rest of this week, and then you shouldn't do one until the 29th because they might flip jock again. And it's almost like there's a window there where you have to grab a guy, see if you're still in it. And we've seen the twins do that. in 17 they did it with

Hamid Garcia I think the Braves might be doing it with Jack so we might get like a dry spell in the middle of July I think the I think Jack Peterson went to Atlanta for the reason you know among other things the reason I was just

talking about it's like if you're trying to spend your time and energy and engage on high level Craig Kimbril or Chris Bryant talks do you also want to be like peddling Jock Peterson on the side. No.

Like, Jack Peterson, just the priority level, isn't there. And I think the Cubs probably looked at it, like, let's say we waited until July 30th and extracted absolute maximum value out of Jock Peterson. How much better are we going to do than Bryce Ball?

And the answer is not much. You know, I'm sorry, you're not going to be getting a top 100 guy for Jock Peterson. and you're not going to be getting a top 200 guy for John Peterson. So the Braves are willing to take on the salary. And they got an interesting guy back who probably is not a first baseman, but the D.H is going to be in the National League soon. So if Bryce Ball can hit a little bit,

then you may be looking at a future DH for the Cubs. Like that. I have a question for you, Jeff. Hopefully you can still hear me. What are the chances? like give me on a scale of 1 to 100% the chances that the Indians will move a guy like J-Ram Oh God, hold on

So I love him No no here's what happened You just said give me the chances On 1 to 10 That the Indians will move a guy like And I have absolutely no idea who you said Jose Ramirez Um

Two like they need to be they need to be really overwhelmed for that for a couple of reasons um first off how like trev where would you put jose ramirez if we're ranking every player in baseball give me like a range where you would put him

he yeah he's every like position players only like he's he's probably a top 10 guy and like and maybe higher than that and he has all the years of control and at an affordable cost. I know all those things. Like, would a team pay up for a guy like that? Like, a guy like a team like the raise or, you know,

the Braves could certainly use him. Like, do they have enough prospect capital to get the job done? Or like, is that something they're even considering? I think there are only like a handful of teams that have prospect-wise what it would take to go out and get Jose Ramirez. And we also have to recognize that, you know, for someone like Jose Ramirez, the chances of that being an all prospect deal are pretty slim. This would probably be like a good major league or two player plus, like, highly ranked prospects, very well regarded prospects. And I just look at it like this for the Indian.

How much more are you going to get now than you would get. if you explore this in another year. I think the answer is nothing. Like, you're not going to get a whole lot more now than you would if you do this trade potentially at a year. And that's just all about timing. You know, there are a couple of years left on Ramirez's deal. And I think if Cleveland explores this same potential deal

at this time next year, then the return would be just as robust as it is now. And I think they'll have the advantage of having another year of him having played for them. And maybe they're good enough next year at this point that they don't have to or don't want to explore making that trip. So I just don't think the timing is necessarily right. But yeah, I mean, you look at a team like the race, Trevor, and they have a 40-man crunch coming up. This is the second time in the last couple of years that they've had this situation because they're just very good at drafting and developing guys. And when you have a 40 man crunch, Padres had the same situation.

You just start shedding prospects and getting big league caliber guys. And so if they wanted to put together an enormous prospect package to get Jose Ramirez, they could. I just, you know, I mean, I look at something like that, and Jose Ramirez is playing third base. You know, Cleveland's probably not going to want to get Joey Wendell necessarily back in a deal like that. But would Brandon Lau interest them, you know, the guy who's got 20-something homeroos in the first half and is on a very club-friendly deal? That could be the start. I mean, if you're the raise and you go to Cleveland with a pack. that starts with Brandon Lowe and Shane Boz.

Cleveland's got to listen, at very least. This is not something, by the way, that I believe has been discussed. I'm literally coming up with this off the top of my head. A team like Tampa certainly could go and get someone like Jose Ramirez. And what's interesting is that, you know, there is a guy out there, not like Jose Ramirez production-wise, but who's going to be

very inexpensive next year and who is on the trade market right now and who fits Tampa perfectly, and that's Byron Bucks. Ooh, I was going to say we're not going to give it away then send people your way because we've talked about that a little bit.

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Jeff, you know, I'm a, I'm a mainstream media guy, so I'm going to hit you with, you know, two of the basic deadline ones. Biggest name to go at the deadline, and if you pick a trade that will happen, I'll put my hand in a cow. You'll put your hand where No no I don't want to do that I'm gonna like Yes you do

No you don't I'll put my hand in the cow Either way No I don't I don't want any Dead or alive He'll find a cow And he'll put his hand in it

I don't know Who's your cow guy I worry less about you Than I do the cow Yeah That's I don't know how often I hear that True No I like if you're gonna do anything to a cow

Like maybe just go and milk a cow that's just as weird to be honest we're being honest is just as weird yeah but but people do it i know but yeah all right jake will milk a cow if will ex player gets tried to the x team what do you got chris brian for the match yeah i need him on the braves jeff i need him on the braves i pick them to win the world series at the beginning of the year it's not looking good yeah don't think that's happening big fella I mean, doesn't Bryant to the Mets just make too much sense, like, to not happen? Yeah.

Yeah, I mean, is it all of that? Or, I mean, are people behind the walls of baseball gossiping about it? Or is everyone just kind of saying it? Like, you know, Bryant's a fit. No, it's, yeah, this is not one of those, like, Mets fans trying to, tweet something into reality. This is one of those where when I talk with people,

those people say, yeah, like, this actually does make a lot of sense. And they, you know, I think people in, with the Mets, look at Chris Bryant and there are certainly warts there. And

I think, you know, we look at the Mets and there are certainly wards there are certainly wards there. I think we look at the fact that they are where they are with as small belief as they have right now. They're missing DeGrom for an unknown period of time. They're missing Lindorre for one to two months. And coming back from an oblique is never an easy thing for a hit or two because the, you know,

the possibility of restraining it is omnipresent. I think we look at Carlos Carrasco, is he ever going to be back? We look at Noah Cindergarde. Is he going to make it back this year? And we look at Philadelphia, and this was like the most stunning number that I've seen in a long time. The Phillies' opponent winning percentage from here on is 463. That means the average team they're playing for the last 70 games of the season is a 75 win team. That right there tells me that the Phillies, just by that number alone,

the Phillies should win the national league. Now, I'm not saying that they're going to. Paul Hembikidus from Get Up earlier today told me that their odds in the last week have gone from plus 700 to plus 4.4. 25. So I think Vegas is catching on a little bit to the Phillies. But the Phillies also have weaknesses and they need to shore things up. And I'll tell you,

if they somehow can figure out how to go and get Craig Kimbril, it's not a game changer like getting the role as Chapman was for the Tubbs in 2016, but I feel a whole lot better about the Phillies fortunes going into the month of September

with Craig Kimbril at the back end of that bullpen, then I do right now. Go Phil's. Phillies. I like them. Well, no, I just like their schedule the rest of the way. All right. We're a big schedule. Schedule

Hallolics. And that was Jeff Passon milking a cow? Is that? Yeah. You guys are going to double milk a cow is where I think we left it and also get ESPN Plus to support Jeff Passon. And also, you get all of Syracuse's field

hockey games. That's why I subscribe. Yes. Yeah. They're going to be good. I mean, they got Tess Queen and FK. Yeah. Big year out of them. What's your favorite field hockey team, Jeff?

I like the Syracuse, University Field Hockey team, actually. Yes. Yes. Yes. They have the Netherlands pipeline, yeah. I have no idea what you're talking about, but a friend of mine in college was the manager. for the Cherokee field hockey team.

And, yeah, he's the worst. Shout out. All right. You got sources everywhere. Thank you for joining us. We appreciate it, man. Thank you, Jeff. Thanks, Jeff Passing.

Jeff Passing, milking a cow. Snaps for Jeff. Snaps for Jeff. He likes to milk cows. I heard, so you were going to do it with your mouth, though, right? I don't care. Yeah. However they say to milk it.

Yeah, dead or alive. Whatever the coach says, man. Great, great job. Thanks. We reached out five minutes before we had him on, asked him if you'd come on. He said he would. So we liked Jeff Passing.

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Thank you. These colors do mix well with my complexion, and I just, they fit me. Yeah. I did, Jim. We always talk about what the topics are going to be on our Wednesday episode, and we were brainstorming. And let's talk about the Olympics. Team USA is off. The Olympics are going on.

And there's been some coverage on it, but maybe not enough. So I think the way we should approach it maybe is let's talk about Team USA roster a little bit. There's a few guys that people would know. And it's kind of exciting because there's at this point a mix of old guys that are still good, can still play. I'll talk Todd Frazier and then the young prospects that are there. So I don't know if you guys have checked out the roster at all. all. Deep dive.

Only two Californians something I noticed. Ooh. So I think everyone's, you know, obviously tuned into that Todd father's on there. I think that's really cool. Another couple older names that are on it. Some pitchers, Patrick, excuse me, Scott Casimir. He was with the Giants in their AAA on their AAA team. He made the roster, Edwin Jackson, who has played on every single team.

Just about, I think he's got 13 teams or something like that. He's on it. And then this one's kind of fun. Anthony Ghost, old outfielder for the Tigers, a couple other different teams is now a left-handed pitcher. He's in the Indians organization in AAA. He made the trip as well. So some fun pitchers on there.

And then, oh, this is the one I wanted to bring up the most. David Robertson, old friend of the Yanks right there. A guy. A good pitcher, David Robertson on the team. And I believe he was on the last Olympic team, which would have been 2008. Can you believe that? Wow.

There hasn't been baseball in the Olympics for quite some time. Do you know that, Trev? I know they took it away because it was all amateurs and not professionals or something like that. But why is it back now? And how come minor league players can play on the Olympic team? They can't be on the 40 man. If they're on the 40 man, they can't play on the Olympic team.

But if they're not on the 40 man, they can go play on the Olympic team. wasn't that earlier when it existed. Couldn't you not be a pro at all? To my knowledge, you could. And it was just like what you were saying, the 40 man, stuff like that. So the last time the team USA was in the Olympics was 2008,

which was in Beijing. And then baseball as a whole was not included in 12 or 16. And now here we are in 21 because of last year was postponed. So I don't know the exact details of that, Jim. Like why our pro players weren't allowed before, but I think maybe they were. Yeah, I don't know. Over the last couple times,

over the last couple times they have been able to play. But before that, that's before my time, Jim. Okay. All right. All good. Tim Federich. Yeah. He always ends up there. Catcher. Treve, so I'm trying to go back. 2008, Trevor Plufe, and you played on a lot of U.S. baseball teams.

I want to say you 16, you 18, you 20, something like that. Was 2008, like, kind of in play for you? For you? I still don't have a voice. I want to go into that, but I just want to go. I want to, let's go into that. Then I will talk about the Olympic schedule. Because I want people to watch this.

I think it's pretty cool. Let me go over the schedule first. And there's six teams in this for baseball in the Olympics. They are. Now I just had them up. Where'd they go? Sorry, guys. It's the Dominican.

It is Mexico and Japan. They are in group A. And then in group B, it's Korea, South Korea, USA, and Team Israel. So, interesting groupings there. Team Israel is kind of a fun one to keep an eye out for because there are a bunch of ex-bigliers on the team. Danny Valencia, John Mosca, Ian Kinsler's back in action playing. a couple other guys who I'm probably going to forget.

They're going to be mad at me for not mentioning them. Nick Rickles, I played with in Lehigh Valley. He's also on the team. They've actually done okay in some of these competitions. They kind of have been doing it. So it's interesting. The U.S.'s first game is against Team Israel, and that is on the 30th of July.

The first game that you can watch would be on the 27th, I believe, of July. the Dominican versus Japan. So go check it out. Just Google Olympic baseball and the schedule and stuff will be there. But I think I wanted to make this point about Team USA. I guess we can kind of get into some of my experiences now with it. I played in 2002 on a 16-and-under team.

And then I went in 2009. That was a professional one. and that one we went to Germany and Italy and once you get into high school if you're a player that's going to kind of go to the next level

there's always a sense of like eye in your games like even in high school like yeah at that point it's mostly still you're playing for the team and nothing else matters but like if you go O4 in a game like you're pissed

so team U.S. is really one of the only pure baseball team experiences that you're going to find these guys playing. Nobody cares if you go over for four. You don't care as long as your team wins because that's all that matters. If you have a great tournament and Team USA finishes fourth place, like that, who cares about that? The only thing these guys are thinking about is winning. And that pure form of baseball is just, it's really not there, you know, at any level because there's always a sense of like, I'm going to the next level or I need to get a paycheck or I need to make sure my numbers are right to some degree. Team USA is not like that.

So that's kind of why I, an admitted baseball snob, will tune into some U.S. stuff because it's just a different kind of dynamic. I think if you talk to anybody that did say that. I love that, Trev. I love that. You're right. There's no next step. It's not, well, a couple of these guys, and this will be a fun conversation after the Olympics, it's a, hey, is someone going to pick up Todd for the run. Like, you know, David Robertson, he was pumping 91 and he struck out the

side. Like, so those are going to be fun conversations, but you are right. Like, when they are over there, it's like, let's get this dub. So that is nice. Exactly. When do the Olympics end? When would do the last game be? Because there's also a deadline to be on an MLB 40 man before the playoffs, which is August 31st, right? The Olympics end, mid-August. It ends before that. It goes It goes like mid-August, yeah. Okay. So that's super interesting that these guys might be getting picked up

just for like a playoff run. Like if D-Rob shoves, a team's going to grab him to be in their bullpen. So I have the gold medal game on August 7th. Perfect. So there's plenty of time for that. And I do understand that aspect.

And so that's a good point. But like Jake alluded to as well, like these guys aren't really thinking about that while they're over there. Get that gold, baby. Treve, I have a question for you. Really cool. guy. Jake asked why weren't you in 2008 playing for the Olympics.

I found your answer. You were too busy getting promoted from AA to AAA in the summer of 2008. Do you know who you hit your first AAA home runoff of? Because I just looked it up. I should know this. I don't, though. I don't know. He was.

He had big league experience, but really an odd career. Adam Petty John Is that name Ring a Bell? It doesn't I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm just played too many games I'm sorry about that Yeah You're like second big

Your second AAA Homer came in the 13th inning Good for you Was it a walkoff? Yeah it was a walkoff you beat the Bisons No big deal Yeah but Team EOSA is super cool I just wanted to bring it up because I have had some experiences,

played on some fun teams, played with some fun players on there. And it's just a different brand of baseball. And I think people see that the WBC is such a great event. I don't want to take anything away from the Olympics, but you see how those guys get fired up, you know, when you're playing for your home country. Whether that's the U.S.,

whether that's the Dominican, whether that's Japan, you know, that's straight up, I want to win this freaking game. don't care what I do. Like, that's, that's cool baseball to me. It's almost like in the playoffs, guys don't give a shit about their number,

just like, let's go win. Kind of the same type of deal. Sosha's the manager, correct? Yes, yes. How do, I wonder,

how did Japan and Korea do it with their professionals? Is it all like from their minor league systems, free agents as well, or do they send their guys? I'm guessing it's the same. I'm going to look up their roster right now, Jim. While you do that, I am just floating in your baseball reference

and your minor league baseball reference. Were you and Ryan Jorgensen, buds? I don't know him. He was a catcher, a AAA. Do you know his, so Ryan Jorgensen, you played with him in AAA? Do you know his big league stats? Because you don't.

You don't. It's a leading question. Don't feel like you need to know it. He has three MLB hits. and 20 at bats and two of those hits were homers so his career numbers are three hits two homers

that's pretty awesome he was a big muscle guy he loved walking around with no shirt on he was a catcher yeah yeah I remember him nice guy kind of yeah like I said just love that chest and abs that he had on

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Saved it for now because I know the real ones stayed through now. So go check it out. Wait, am I doing that as well? What's the question? Because you already have one. No, I'm asking because I don't have to go find it somewhere. No, you're all good. Jake did it.

We're good. You're not selling your jersey. No, like personalized ones. People can customize them. They get their own name on the back with their own number. If you want to get L.S. No, I mean, you can get the specialty 24 if that's what you're all to customize. If you're a specialty fan.

Zendino and then the number can be G8 for just great. Great. I don't know if they would do that. I would assume the number should just be eight. But yeah, they're going to be on the John Boy Media shop, like a 48-hour flash sale. We really kind of haven't done too much like this, so get one. They're the baby blue and white ones, Trev, so they're clean. It's called a freaking pop-up, bro.

Like, get with it. No, a pop-ups are physical. So, no. I don't think so. Oh, you know what this is called? A drop. Yeah, flash sale. Drop.

Flash show refers to a sale. These aren't going to be on sale These are big bucks probably Yeah, he's got a point there Flashout does imply it's discounted Or a promotion offered of an e-commerce store For a short period of time So it works

But the first definition does says What you said, Treyf Anyway, I'm lost in baseball reference The other home run that Jorgensen hit off Was a guy named Daniel Barone Who also only played in the MLB for one year and now I kind of want to do a stats like just doesn't matter on guys that face each other and they both were only up for like that game. I like that.

Like they both only had two weeks in the show and here they were because really a minor league at bat just happening in an MLB ballpark. No, that's not it. That is not true, Jim. Kind of. Don't marginalize the guy reaching the show. You know what I'm saying. is this what it's like for you guys I'm sweating right now

it's so uncomfortable every day this is what you guys live like baby he's probably dying but the AC is turned on us Trev I moved into my new house I was so excited to finally have Central Air haven't had Central Air since

I moved back east because it's all old and window units and stuff and Katie hates that and I do too set the AC 69 at night went to sleep it only stays that temperature I guess

for like four hours and then reverts back to whatever it's been programmed to do. And the homeowners before us or the automatic setting was 77. So woke up at 5am was 77 degrees on purpose. It's brutal. So first night sleeping with Central A.C. Didn't go as planned. Final update. I tweeted at Todd Frazier.

I said, are you in Tokyo? He said, leave tomorrow. Bog boy. I think he meant big boy or blog boy. can't tell. I assume Big Boy. And he is wearing 25. I want to confirm that because I decided I'm going to go

ham on Todd Frazier this Olympics and that's obvious just like everyone else. And he said, yes, sir, let's go for glory, baby. So I mean, that's what it's all about. God. That's what it's all about. That's perfect. That's so perfect right there. I hope Todd

goes over to Japan. Eats at a sushi restaurant and it's like, that was good but like it goes and finds like some some hot dogs somewhere I'm like you know he needs that a good old American hot dog

hamburger and that will happen by the way awesome so I saw your tweet that was the look I was giving you before we did have to do that ad also so thank you for doing that but other big update Todd Fisher followed me whoa

big dong at the Olympics bigger update Asher Ojikowsky is expected to start for the Yankees tomorrow. Oh, my God. Also, we really got to do pregame shows. Yeah, all right. Trevor, thank you for joining us on the regular show that you're always on. Hey, guys.

It was a pleasure talking about Team USA and my mind of the experiences. Me and Jeff are friends again. It's always a good kiff. That looks so cool behind Treves? Yeah. Trev's meant to wear the American flag.