Talkin' Baseball (MLB Podcast) - 385 | Talkin' Baseball's August All-League Team

Episode Date: September 1, 2021

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Starting point is 00:00:01 Hello and welcome to talking baseball. It's time to figure out who is still a JM Baseball All-Star April through August. Let's do it. Hello and welcome to talking baseball. It's the midweek episode. It's brought to you by Draft Kings. Thank you very much for joining us today. My name is Jimmy.
Starting point is 00:00:32 Sitting next to me is Jake in California. We got Trev and BBD producing behind the dish. And it's time to figure out who gets bumped from the seasonal. Talking baseball, all team, whatever we're calling this, and who sticks around. And I'm interested to see how many of the All-Stars that were in Colorado are not on the squad anymore. Or how many are still on the squad, you know, because it's a season-long thing. So that's the episode today, midweek episode, not live. But we love everyone who usually joins live in YouTube.
Starting point is 00:01:09 Hopefully you're enjoying the premiere. Trevor, how are you doing? James Jacob and Big Big Don. You know, I face-time Jake early in the morning
Starting point is 00:01:20 today and ever since then I've just been in this mood like I just want to grab them and wrestle or something I don't know I don't necessarily want to punch you in the face I just want to wrestle you a little bit
Starting point is 00:01:32 you're missing me. I don't know how you're feeling about that you feel that? We saw each other. We were on the road last week we were you know tugging each other and then not to give too much away on the FaceTime,
Starting point is 00:01:45 your beautiful wife and queen Olivia said, you know, it looks like Jake works out a lot, which, whoops. She said something of that ilk wasn't exactly verbatim, but... Yeah, I'm butter knife guy. I'll give it to you. So, yeah, things are tense. I'm missing you like hell. I know we're some rumors.
Starting point is 00:02:06 I'm going to put something into the ether online and we'll take it offline, but we might have to get it. get you out here for the wildcar game or something? We'll talk about it. We'll talk about it. Would be a fun time? Well, the Yanks got to make the wild card. Well, we could watch any team in the wild card track.
Starting point is 00:02:23 Actually, if the Yanks make the wild card, that's different. Then we probably find a way in the building, which you would love. I'll be in the building. You'll be in the building. But for an N.O. Wildcard, we got to get you out here on the recliners with us. Unless it's in L.A., then I'm going to go to the game. You guys are going to fly out. Well, then you'll be out here for the DS games.
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Starting point is 00:04:36 You guys know I have a Roman nose. I should be the spokesperson for Roman. Yes. Maybe you should be. They kind of are right now. Yeah. I guess that's true. That's kind of what this is.
Starting point is 00:04:46 Yeah. And you answer Jake's questions beautifully. You for your Roman nose and me for my Roman Svings Ford All right, let's get into the All-Stars. We're not calling it All-Stars. What do we decide to call this? The All-JM team.
Starting point is 00:05:05 All-J-M team, okay, because All-Stars is already taken. Yeah. You guys are ready? Some are easy. There's actually, I think, more tough conversations this month than ever before.
Starting point is 00:05:19 Wow. So, we'll start with an easy one. The American League, first baseman. He was the first basement after one month. He was the first basement after two, after three, after four, after five months into the season. The American League first baseman is Vladdy Jr. Slim Daddy, Vladdy, Paul to Paul.
Starting point is 00:05:40 It's very good. Trevor, you're shaking your head in disagreement or just in awe of how good he is? Astonishment at what the numbers are already. And we still have a full month of baseball. ball left to play. He has a 170 OPS plus, meaning he's been 70% better than the average hitter. And, uh, crazy. You know, soft reminder, he's 22 years old. He, whenever you're mentioning Tatis or Ronnie or whoever mentioned Vladito. Yeah. I like that he put in work and lost weight and it
Starting point is 00:06:18 made him better. Yeah. A lot of times these guys go on these crazy diets. and like it doesn't work. C.C. went on something like that, right? And like, was it good? No, he had to get big again. He said more mass, more gas was his pitching. Yeah, Cici. Trev, this works out for Vladdy.
Starting point is 00:06:36 I know you and I are mending fences early today. I'd like to toot your horn a little bit. I think you came up with a new stat today, the Gibby? You want to tell the people what that is? It's not necessarily a stat. It's more of a club. Oh. And yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:54 Do you know this yet? Do you know this yet? I saw it yet. Okay. Yeah, I mean, there's only one way to get in. And you got to have gold, bold, or italics on your baseball reference page. I'm assuming you're going to throw it to Vladdy's B-Ref page. Vladie, this season currently has six gibby going on.
Starting point is 00:07:16 So that's a sign of a good year. I don't know. What does the italics mean? All time, or no, both leagues. Italics is you're leading all of baseball, bold as you're leading. Wow. Look at the people on the replies. The players like the Gibby.
Starting point is 00:07:38 They love it. They love the game. Well, it's a very special club. Yeah. So you're in it. I'm in it, yeah. Forever. Whoops.
Starting point is 00:07:46 No one could ever take that away from me. That is badass. Like you're etched into the book. It's like when Brett Farve's first pass he ever threw in the NFL went for a touchdown. Who cares? It was an interception pick six. Went for a touchdown. That's what he said right afterwards. It's in the book.
Starting point is 00:08:02 All right. Second base, this has been interesting. Just to remind you after April, Nick Solock, got the nod. After April plus May, it was Simeon. April, May, June, Simeon again. April, May, June, July. Simeon again, but it was getting very close between him and Altuvae. And now five months into the season. reason. We haven't decided.
Starting point is 00:08:27 We have to figure this out. Al Tuvei has more F-4 than Simeon. They're very similar. They're similar enough games played played appearances that I don't think it fully matters. Simeon scored more runs. Simian has more hits. Simeon has more doubles. Simeon has more home runs. Simeon has more stolen bases.
Starting point is 00:08:48 Al-Tuve has a higher batting average. Altov has a higher on base percentage. Simian has a higher OPS and Simeon has a higher OPS plus. So it all depends on what you like. My vote remains Simeon. I just don't understand B-Wor F-war because B-Wor has 5-7 for Simeon and 3-3 for Al-Tub it.
Starting point is 00:09:10 It's the worst thing about war and makes me not like it if fan graphs and baseball reference could put down their swords and come together. but the fact that different websites have different answers for the same stat makes me not like the stat itself you know imagine if you went and it was like OPS plus was this here and that there or you know slugging was this here and that they're like we have to be uniform here and I hate that aspect of war the wars need to go to war together and figure it out because if you took if you hid the war on this it's simeon going away yeah the F war has me a
Starting point is 00:09:50 little nervous, but like Trev's saying with the B war, and now we're talking about both of them too much, I'm leaving, Simian. Is there like a, if you're a Fangraphs guy, are you, like, leveled up on baseball reference? Or, like, how does that work? Like, is baseball reference more, like, traditional? Fangraphs is more projecting. Fangraphs is definitely more for analytics and projecting. And baseball reference is definitely more for the past and what's happened, I would, to generalize.
Starting point is 00:10:21 Okay I'm a B-Ref guy Oh I love baseball reference My favorite website on the internet I'm taking Simeon Besides Corn Hub Which is a spot that sells Jersey corn Ad
Starting point is 00:10:37 Ad Corn's so good I love corn I uh when I saw the war I was hoping Altuve's other numbers Add it up We're gonna be there more But they don't
Starting point is 00:10:49 So Jose Have a September and take it right at the end. Tell a story. He's been there all year, but I'm, you're simeon as well, Trev? Yeah, I'm simian. Okay. I think it's three months in a row.
Starting point is 00:11:02 Simions just beat out. Yeah, they've been battling. They've been battling. Blue Jay's right side. This next grouping is something else. Yep. In April, the shortstop was Carlos Correa. Then the next time it was Bogart's.
Starting point is 00:11:17 Then the next time it was Correa. Then the next time it was Bogart's. They've been flip-flopping every month after five months. It's not just the month of August. Some people continue to forget that. It's accumulation of the season. We have. They're very close in F-4.
Starting point is 00:11:35 They are incredibly close in games and played appearances. So the counting stats, you can straight up just compare them, basically. It's 123 games to 120, 521 plate appearances to 518. So there's no disdain. discrepancy of like per bat really it's just straight up and counting stats boggarts has uh 13 more hits but he's got 10 less runs that's batting order they both have a lot of doubles bogart's home run page is wrong on our sheet how many home runs is zander
Starting point is 00:12:12 both have 20 both have 20 and they both have 69 rbis yep geez hot uh karea 10 more runs and zero steals for Correa though let's go man pick them legs up all right so now you go to the slash lines Zander's got a better batting average but Correa's got a better on base percentage Xander's got a better slugging he's got a better OPS we don't have the OPS plus here 129 OPS plus OPS plus for Xander
Starting point is 00:12:43 and 132 for Carlos hmm man I don't know do you have a lean J? Do we have to go into some more nerdy stats? I think I'm going to take Correa. What's... I'd have to choose one.
Starting point is 00:13:03 What's leading you that way? His attitude. And not to say that Bogart has a bad attitude or something. I've been on the Correa train this year. And with numbers this similar, I think you have to have something to differentiate. I can't even talk today. Whatever.
Starting point is 00:13:21 I'm going with the adjutant. Correa has a little higher weighted runs created plus, and he's got a little ex-Woba, if you're going off like unlucky or stuff like that. It's very, it might be the closest we've had, Correa and Bogart's. I think defensively, Correa... I'm looking at both of their baseball savant outs above average ratings, which isn't the B'L end all, but just metric I picked out. Bogart's is first percentile.
Starting point is 00:13:51 Carlos Cray is 98th. There you go. Correa wins. Not to be all in all, but. Yeah. I, uh, oh, let's piss off Red Sox fans. Uh, my vote before hearing Trevor was Correa. These numbers are so tight that I think it goes to a field test.
Starting point is 00:14:13 Okay. I like, I think that's acceptable. If they're, if they're, you're playing one game, I'd rather see Bogart's than Correa. Correa is scary on both sides of the ball. I mean, Bogart's, his offensive numbers are, like, super underrated. He deserves to be highlighted more across MLB at what he does at the shortstop position. But Correa, man, both sides. That guy will ruin your day.
Starting point is 00:14:42 Ruin your day. Yeah. Yeah. Do they both bat? Like, Correa mostly is batting third. He bounces around a little bit, whereas Bogart's is bat. I'm adding third as well. That's so similar.
Starting point is 00:14:56 I'm going to go Correa as well. It's eerily similar. It's tough. I'll go Correa as well for the defense. That's as close as it gets, though, right there. And now at third base, I think we have something even sadder for Red Sox fans. Devers had it after April. Devers had it after April and May.
Starting point is 00:15:17 Devers had it after April, May, and June. Devers had it after April, May, June, July. And according to our chart here, it's how. Jose Ramirez's spot now after five months. Wow. Wow. Whoa. Okay. I need to see, I need to see Devers numbers. So it's, it is still neck and neck. Devers, 32 homers. Ramirez, 31.
Starting point is 00:15:48 Ramirez, 87 runs. Devers, 82. Devers, 96 RBI. Ramirez 84. Ooh, this is where Ramirez. The bags. Ramirez, wow, it was Ramirez. It was Ram. 19 swipes for J-RAM. And he gets a little defensive nudge over Rafa.
Starting point is 00:16:13 That's the differentiator. Damn. Same exact on-base percentage. J-Ram's got a lesser batting average, but a higher slucking barely. It's got a higher OPS barely. 140 OPS plus for J-Ram, 136 for Devers,
Starting point is 00:16:31 19 steals for Ramirez. More runs. It's very close, but again, when the offensive numbers are so close, you go to some other shit and you go to base running and defense, and J-Ram has them there.
Starting point is 00:16:47 Jose Ramirez is so good. Do you know what they're paying this guy? Not enough. Isn't it 10 mil? Since 2016, that was like his, he had MVP 17 votes, and then after that he's been J-RAM as we know it. 2016, he made 518. Remember, he signed a contract.
Starting point is 00:17:09 Barely under a million, 2017, 2.8, 4.1, 6.6.6. This year is making 9.4. We're talking a perennial top 5 MVP guy. Man. And they've paid him now throughout his career, $25 million for a, you know. You know, six years of service. In August, J-R-R-M hit nine homers and stole eight bases, didn't get thrown out once.
Starting point is 00:17:32 You can get to 30-30. Got to have a big September. Like, he can, not casually, but he can, he can have 40-20. Like, we just freaked out about Otani doing that. He could have that with a good power month. He could have 40-30, like, just another season for him. He was, um,
Starting point is 00:17:54 Very close to 4040 in 2018. 39 homers and 34 stolen bases. 40, bro. Underrated. And he kind of looks like Jake, so that's awesome. Underrated. Thick king. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:07 He's got the new chains going now. They're all like with his image on them. He's living in it. You know what I take solison? What's take solace mean? Like find like a nugget of like hope? I don't know. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:22 That's it. Yeah. The fact that there's a month left and Devers can steal it back. Okay. Sox Nation needs it. Because it was his all season. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:33 And now it's going to J-Ram. Damn. Ramirez and Devers, both in the Gibby Club, Correa in the Gibby Club, Bogart's not in the Gibby Club. Speaking of differentiators.
Starting point is 00:18:48 Those air mirrors team options each of the next two off-season for $12 and $14 million. That's such a joke. Hit him up. Team friendliest contract. Hit him up. All right.
Starting point is 00:18:58 A.L. catcher. It is Salvador Perez. I don't think any of us are going to not give it to Salvador Perez. But Zanino has a higher OPS plus than him, higher slugging than him, and like some numbers that are good. He's played a lot less games. Salvi has the second most home runs in the AL. It's going to Salvador Perez.
Starting point is 00:19:18 It's going to. It is funny that he doesn't even lead in like all slash lines for how good of a season it is. as a catcher in his own league. Yeah. Yeah. To me, it's the game's played. I think that's such a... Yeah, I was giving it to him for that after just two months.
Starting point is 00:19:32 I was like, well, he's there every day. It's a source of pride for catchers. And Sal's, you know, when healthy, he's in there, you know, at least six out of seven. Man. Like, he doesn't want to take those days off. Sal gets it. Give Big Zee some love, man. What a year from Zanino.
Starting point is 00:19:51 You know, we kind of look at him as this Ray's party. trick. He's having a nice baseball season. He is. You're a freaking raised party trick. Okay. All right. Let's go to the outfield. This is fun. April, Buxton, Trout, Mullins. April plus May.
Starting point is 00:20:12 Adelis Garcia, Judge Luriano. I mean, Trout, Buckson, Loreano. Are we just jinksing people if you get on here? After April, May, June, Mollins, Judge Garciano. See ya. April, May, June, July. Mullen's judge Gallo.
Starting point is 00:20:28 You guys voted for Gallo. I voted for Brantley. And now, April, May, June, July, August. It says here we have four to choose from. Mullins, Judge, still there. The war for those guys is the top two. And then we have Gallo again.
Starting point is 00:20:53 And Kike. How about that? How to look into... Kee-K. How to look into his numbers a little bit. Cedric Mullins has 24 home runs and 48 RBIs. I know he hits at the top of the order, but... Orioles.
Starting point is 00:21:16 Let's figure it out a little bit. 24 homers, 24 swipes. Get to 30, 30, Cedric. That's awesome. Yeah, I mean, Mullins and Judge are clear out there. It's pretty shocking. I mean, I think it goes to Gallo or Kike as we're, I think we're about to decide on.
Starting point is 00:21:40 I think the shocking part, after them, the three options might be the three Houston outfielers. It could be, well, they have Alvarez listed here, but Tucker, Brantley, God, even an old Miles Straw was listed there. This is tough. How about Kiki? Well, Judge and Mullins are there, right?
Starting point is 00:22:04 Judging Mullins are there. Judge and Mullen's there. Kike, man. Where does he play it a lot this year? He's moved around. I feel like he's been going back to second base, no? The last like 14 games he's been infield. So, I mean, we don't have a U-Till spot in the American League
Starting point is 00:22:20 the way we've been doing this. We just have a D-H. Wait, didn't we say we were going to add one? We added the U-Till to the NL. Okay. 73 games in the outfield compared to 4. 41 or 48 in the infield. Does Stan now get votes for outfield since he's playing?
Starting point is 00:22:36 Because that would bump him to this list. He's got an 864 OPS. That's better than Gallo and Kee-K. Yeah, but this is not just a hitting list, Jim. We've got to take in count defense. Stan's been fine out there. I think his complete outfield profile isn't there. But maybe by the end of the year, he'll have played enough outfield for us to.
Starting point is 00:22:59 Yeah, I don't know if I have standing there for August. He could trick me. For just August, yes. If he keeps playing five out of seven games in the outfield in September, then Stan might trickle into this conversation. He could. For just August, he's there for sure. All right? So, I mean, Judge and Mullins are in, right?
Starting point is 00:23:15 Yes. I'm going to go with, I'm going to vote for Gallo. You guys say it all the time. This is a results award. It's a results award, yeah. So he's got the counting stats. Like, he's, He wins all of those.
Starting point is 00:23:34 So I'm giving it to Gallo. Over Kiki. All right. Man, I still love what Brantley's doing. I know I did the no, no hit, no walk stat and Gallo and Brantley were the same. I still love what. What Brantley's doing, he's still got 315, 370, 130, runs created plus.
Starting point is 00:24:01 Who's your vote? Kiki doesn't play enough outfield for me is to get it, or to be part of this. He's played more infield lately since they got Schwaber. Man, Gallo almost stays on by default, which is tough. It doesn't feel like all JM team stuff. Why is this not a very impressive list? We're combining every outfield spot.
Starting point is 00:24:28 It's the outfield in the American League. It should be nothing but sluggers. Why are these numbers not as impressive as like Vladdies or? You know what I mean? Why we're not picking from like 10 guys? Exactly. That's what that's, this has confused me all year how the American League Outfield standouts is a shallow list.
Starting point is 00:24:55 You're damn right it is. Now I'm getting more and more into it. And yeah. I mean, there's odd. We'll go gallow then. A lot of platooning, I guess. I think that's probably what we're seeing. And we all just shrug and say, okay.
Starting point is 00:25:08 Yeah, I just, I need someone to show the heart in September because I'm open to anyone. You want to leave it open? Say no one's deserved it. to third? That's tough. I don't, that's not how I operate, no. Um, but man, I'm looking, like, I almost want to go dead heat and like bring everyone in. Like, you love the challenge, Jimmy? Yeah. Like, I want to bring in Brantley. Hell, Kyle, Kyle Tucker having a nice year. Gallo, Kike, Teascahers. Like, I almost want to bring in the whole second tier and be like,
Starting point is 00:25:42 whoever wins September, you get the spot. I think that's how it's going to happen. But you have to choose one for now. I think Gallo stays by default. All right. Not proud. Kyle, when you post the social media graphic on this and you include Gallo, just put a parentheses and say, by default, no one's impressive because...
Starting point is 00:26:03 He just had his, like, worst month. Yeah, he just stays on. People just see that graphic and get mad all time. All right. That wraps up the offensive. Showhays the DH, sure. Good job, Shohei. Starter.
Starting point is 00:26:19 Forever. He's just going to be there. It's the Shohei position. The starter. There's two guys. Man, there's a couple. You got Rodon. What are you picking?
Starting point is 00:26:31 You got Rodon. You got Cole. You got Robbie Ray. We're picking one? You got Lance Lynn still. Yeah, just one. That's tough. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:26:50 Cole's pitched. I like Lance Lynn. My guy. I like Lynn too He just got rocked by the Cubbies 1.35 innings pitch So less innings pitch But the 2590 array
Starting point is 00:27:02 Robbie Ray has You know 160 innings pitch So that's the most out of all the contenders here With a 271 Robbie Ray Rodon Only 114
Starting point is 00:27:17 So that's That's the least But he's got a 243 I think I want to leave it with Lance, but I'm almost not expecting it to get it at the end of the year. Me neither. Yeah. I think I might give it to Robbie Ray just because he finally clips the inning mark and now has
Starting point is 00:27:39 fucking gold on his page. I think I'm right. It's a big gibby. It's a big gibby. Robbie Ray and Cole are very similar numbers. Cole is thrown two complete games, one shutout. man these stats are so even i mean Cole's got like two less starts
Starting point is 00:28:03 but only 11 lessenings pitched than Robbie ray like this is how messed up my brain is I think I have Lance Lynn over Cole I think I have Robbie Ray over Lance Lynn but I think I have Cole over Robbie Ray I've got everyone eating each other in a circle wow it makes sense
Starting point is 00:28:23 So who do we want? My vote is going to be for Lance. I'm keeping it Lance. I'm going Robbie Ray. Are you guys out? Gibby. Outwee me. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:37 Combined, yeah. Ha, ha. All right, that's your AL. You want to walk through it, Jake? Who got left? Who's the final there? Real quick. The final AL, September, all JM team.
Starting point is 00:28:53 We're going to have baseball reference. put it on their website. Fladito, Marcus Simeon, a Blue Jays right side. How about Carlos Correa and Jose Ramirez? Boogity, boogity, boogity, boogity, in the outfield, Cedric Mullins, Aaron, Judge, Joey Gallo by default,
Starting point is 00:29:10 and your DH, we skipped over him pretty quickly. Showtime, Shohei Otani, as, by the way, he's approaching 50 ding-dongs this year. Jeez. What Garrett? Oh, not Garrett, Lance Lynn on the bump. Salve-R-Pra's catching.
Starting point is 00:29:28 Lance Lynn on the bump. Salvee catching. Good job. It's a good team. You think so? I do. I'm just going to do the six-sitting's pitched. Most games with six-snings pitch,
Starting point is 00:29:44 tour and runs are less in the American league. Probably, Ray's been pretty good at that. Yeah. He does have the most in the AL. Glass now Staws. He's tied with. with glass now. You can't pitch a minute.
Starting point is 00:30:03 Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I did it. I did it wrong. All right. Jake, who's bringing us the National League side of things? Vegas with Garrett Cole is a favorite to win the Cy Young. You just passed Lancer. Speaking of, Trev, you know, there's trophies. What if I told you there's basically a trophy you can drink out of with Doug out, mugs, there are,
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Starting point is 00:31:38 Pour nice beer in there. Watch some baseball. Hello. Dugout mugs. I'm, Gary Cole is my pick. Hello. Changed it. Garicol has 16 games, six innings pitch, two and runs or less.
Starting point is 00:31:53 Robbie Ray has 15. Lancelan has 12. That's, uh, I'm changing, changing my vote to Gary Cole. So who gets it? He's a little too whiny for me. Stimulator simulator? Baby D? Because I'm Lance, Treves, Rob, your gear.
Starting point is 00:32:09 Yeah. I mean, we're playing... Eileen Cole. And I truly was thinking it before. Reasons? Oh. Yankee fan. Wow. I watch every start. No, he is like good.
Starting point is 00:32:25 And it's also Dan keeps tweeting stats and stuff and just saying like, wow, it's so obvious. That's not the best argument. No, it's not the best argument. I never heard. Never said it was the best argument. My argument's great. He's got the most, like, good, good start. Six innings pitch or more, two runs or less.
Starting point is 00:32:42 He's got the most in the American League. I don't value collective ear at the end of value, like, day in, day out. How many times are you just, like, giving us a win? He's got the most. You know who else? Chris Bassett has 15 of those. Bassett. He's feeling well.
Starting point is 00:32:59 All right. NL. Let's do it. Who gets it? It's it. Cole. Well, I don't care. Put all three.
Starting point is 00:33:07 None of this actually matters. It's going on baseball reference, Jim. National League catchers. I mean, it's been Posey like all year. It's still got to be Posey, right? Yeah, it's still Posey. Our list here has a bunch. We have Posey.
Starting point is 00:33:28 We have Ramuda. We have Smith. Because the war, F-war is all similar. Posey plays. He's less games. He's older. He's got less played appearances. And did he get hurt for a little bit? But the counting stats, he's kind of right there.
Starting point is 00:33:45 I mean, he's got 93 hits. That's Rermuda, S. 98. He's got the more runs. RBI's, he's less. Who cares about that? He's got the highest batting average. He's got the highest on-base percentage. He's got the highest OPS.
Starting point is 00:34:00 It's still Buster Posey for me. Treves nodding his head, diving, dipping, dodging, he's thinking he likes Will Smith. He likes Will Smith. I do. I do. I mean, there's nothing wrong. Buster Posey's and have an incredible year. Has he won it every single month, Jen?
Starting point is 00:34:20 Well, the first month after April, we forgot about him because he just straight up didn't meet the qualified games. So he gave it to Carson, Kelly. But the comments was like, you forgot about Posey. And it was like, oh, shit. It was our mistake. on the records Posey's gotten it since then I like
Starting point is 00:34:40 catchers that play a lot of games I know it's not too many games difference 20 games on our sheet 107 for Will Smith Buster Posey 87 oh man I'm a big Will Smith fan so I'm gonna vote for Will Smith
Starting point is 00:34:55 we'll let Jakey boy decide this one and shout out JT Romutu has also had excellent campaign I'm glad JT is fully back in the mix. It's kind of been a while since we had a good JT talk about him in there. I'm leaving Buster by a nose. It's a little bit of a tip of the hat to him for the career in the giant season. But yeah, I mean, Will Smith can clip him pretty easily. If Will Smith has a better
Starting point is 00:35:27 September, I think it's Big Willie style. Will Smith also underrated. He's so good. He's so good. I'm fine with Buster doing it. I mean, he's earned it. But I want to go on record as saying in August, Willie, you're my guy. Okay. Some Will Smith stats.
Starting point is 00:35:50 Jesus. Will Smith is 26 years old. Guess his career OPS. With high. He's in the 8th. 8. 8.52. 915, boys.
Starting point is 00:36:08 Oh. Wow. Sheesh. Didn't know that. Gee good. Jeez Louise. Yeah. Geez.
Starting point is 00:36:16 He's coming for you, Buster. Little N.L. West. Whoever wins the N.L. West. Wow. That scares me. Yeah. For Buster. Well, Buster's a special dude.
Starting point is 00:36:29 Dig deep. Yeah. Okay. First base. Wow. First base in the NL. Let's see. Who has it been?
Starting point is 00:36:40 Get this out of here. It's Moncy, right? There's one pick. It's Moncy? Yeah. Thick Daddy, Max. Has he had it the whole time? Aguilar got it.
Starting point is 00:36:49 He might have been at a different position earlier. Right, he did have some position concerns. What's he been playing? A lot of first base now. Well, then he's got it. Mad Max. Cody Bellinger is a role player on the Dodgers team right now. MVP at a role player.
Starting point is 00:37:09 I mean, I wish him the best. What's Max Moncie? Also one of the better stories like in baseball. 390 on base percentage. 933 OPS. And at one point Freddie was coming for him. I think last month you said like watch out. Freddy might be coming.
Starting point is 00:37:30 You wouldn't be surprised. He still is. He's still on his butt, but you just can't give it to him over Mad Max for now. Yeah, I know I know Max had a lot. a little funk, I think, at the end of August, but, I mean, Muncie, isn't he kind of in the MVP race?
Starting point is 00:37:50 Yeah, he didn't have a great month in August, so that's why he's kind of fallen back, and now I think Harper is leading it in Vegas, I'm pretty sure. Him and Tatis have kind of cooled a little bit. Tatis missed some time. Still 791 OPS, so, like, your down month is still pretty damn good.
Starting point is 00:38:10 Other than that, it's been 815. one daughter, 885, a 964 in the other months. So collectively, he's just doing it. It's Muncie. Okay. Muncie it is. 93 of his 114 games participated at first base. So he's there.
Starting point is 00:38:27 All right. Second base in the National League. This one's always been, I don't think it's ever been a clean sweep. It's always been a conversation. Jazz Chisholm got it after April. Then we went Frazier. Then we went Frazier again. Then we went, Cronzone.
Starting point is 00:38:45 Got it. Last month. And now is it still the two of them? No. We have Frazier has fallen off. We got Cronzone versus Cigora. Gene. DVD's infield.
Starting point is 00:39:00 What's Croninworth been playing? Yes. He's been playing shortstop? He's been playing shortstop all month. Do positions matter? He's been playing shortstop all month. Yeah. Do positions matter?
Starting point is 00:39:13 And what are we doing with Tatis? Because he's at the next spot. He hasn't been playing. Ah, shit. Damn these guys. Tatis, stop making so many errors. You play shortstop. I mean, Tatis is on the team.
Starting point is 00:39:29 Hmm. Mm-hmm. Ha-ha. I mean, this is what happened with KB earlier. This is messy. This is messy. Where do you slot these guys? Well, anyway, Gene Singer is not on the team.
Starting point is 00:39:42 The Cronowworth's on the team. I think we go, he still has more games at second base. Yeah, 89 games. He's only playing 29 at short. This is a cumulative award, Jim. Okay, so after September, we'll have some more decisions to make and look at it. But right now... Put him there for now, I need to think.
Starting point is 00:40:05 Yeah, and then you got to put Tatee set short, and then we got to think. It'll be an interesting conversation come. October. Tatease's numbers are stupid. Dude's missed so much time. He's only played 100 games. And he's still got 36 home runs. Yeah, he's doing it. What the fuck?
Starting point is 00:40:29 BPD took him under, what, 100 RBI? Be tight. Under 101.5. Be tight. And yeah, it's crazy that that's even in the discussion for how many games that he's missed. I took him over 160-something hits and I don't think he's going to get there. Stupid, dude. He's going to get to the 40-20 club and he's going to play 120 games. What's the least amount of games played and you get to 40-20?
Starting point is 00:40:58 I don't have that off the top of my head. What? Dude, I thought you were stumped the Schwab. That's my bad. Just stump. I like that. Trey Turner, by the way, deserves some love. No.
Starting point is 00:41:12 The war gods love him. He's hitting 322, 368, 881 OPS, and maybe what might become most important is that he plays shortstop. So, interested to see where that lands come October. This is a mess. Crohn's on set second. Tatis is at short. It'll figure itself out in September. You know, the people that don't listen to the show and just read the graphic on Twitter are going to be so mad.
Starting point is 00:41:43 very much. On the graphic, it'll just be the positions that I think everyone thinks of them at. So I think just the graphic team. If you don't think all the replies are going to be. Yes. No, I think that'll be plenty of comments. For the last month. Trey Turner.
Starting point is 00:42:06 Good job, Trey Turner, but Tatee has you beat. I mean, you tell Turner that Tatease is the all-team shortstop, but dude who literally got demoted from shortstop, he's going to be upset. So come at the end of the year, we'll see what happens. I'm starting to get it. Why don't we just put Trey Turner at shortstop and put Tautis in the outfield now? I'm sorry to get worried about someone's spot in the outfield.
Starting point is 00:42:28 But not for this month. Not for this month. It's the next month problem. I think we put Trey Turner this month and then we take Tautis and put him in the outfit. Why not? Pirates fans fucking need this, Trev. I don't even know who's on the pirates besides Cole Tucker and Key Brian Hayes. That's the problem.
Starting point is 00:42:47 I think Trey Turner's played more games at not shortstop than Tatee has. Say that again? Trey Turner has played more games at not shortstop than Tatee has. This season? There you go. Trey Turner's played 20 games at second base.
Starting point is 00:43:03 By BPD. Tatea Tate's, I think, 13 games in a way. Nice job, BD. Trey Turner might be eligible for the UTIL spot. Okay. Hell yeah. All right. So who's our third baseman?
Starting point is 00:43:17 This is hectic. Is it Young Thick? Holy smokes. I think it's the boss of the South, man. Young Thick. In April. It was K.B. In April and May.
Starting point is 00:43:30 It was Young Thick. In April, May, June. It was J.T. In April, May, June, July. It was Machado. This is the first time someone's going to have it twice. It is Young Thick. At the end of the season, we should have a,
Starting point is 00:43:47 like two graphics that says AL like month by month so people can see the change in it and then like Instagram slideshow thing yeah or like just two you know it's like you know catcher first probably easier is to see on the baseball reference page
Starting point is 00:44:03 they'll just be able to click through it oh yeah I saw a video of young thick on social media what is he doing this is this is this is young young thick this was like some high school showcase he wasn't that you're disgusting he was thicker back then the guys thinned out he was a freaking horse so like young thick I think we might have to start calling him something
Starting point is 00:44:32 different has I know El Cabo has been used as a nickname for a couple guys has the horse been used no in English you'd say show pony and that tell me how to speak in English. And we say like he's a horse. Like it's like a term. It's not like a specific person. That's where I think the horse is hilarious. Isn't Chavis?
Starting point is 00:44:59 If anyone was going to be it, it would have been Madbom. Dude, views himself as a horse. He's not built as a horse. Yeah, but he views himself as a horse. He's on the pirates. Mindset-wise. Well, no, he's like when. Madbom's on the mound constantly thinking, what would my horse do here?
Starting point is 00:45:16 Right. He's kind of like when, what do you call him horse girls? girls that grow up that want to be a horse? Yeah. Mad bum's a male horse girl. That's like, I don't know. What I was saying, I was trying to compliment him. The horse gets third base.
Starting point is 00:45:32 Michael Chavis. Okay. Has a sweet nickname. And, you know, I feel like a lot of times you need to, like, kind of earn that name. Don't, don't, don't make this into it. You're a players guy. You're a players guy. Just saying, it's a sweet nickname.
Starting point is 00:45:44 You're lucky to have that. He's finally getting the opportunity he deserves in Pittsburgh. Chavis. Okay. No. I don't know him. I should preface this with saying, Don't know, Chavis.
Starting point is 00:45:57 Never heard an interview really. Tough. Well, we saw it at the Pirates game. We're setting it up. Chavis likes Chavis. I'll say that. That just seems a lot about the way he walks around. The way he walks around and he carries himself.
Starting point is 00:46:12 He had like a walk-up song at the Pirates game and like the way he watched. And Jake and I were like, oh, my God, that guy looks at himself in the mirror a lot. That's the vibe I get. I'm going to say this. So do I. to me.
Starting point is 00:46:24 Yeah, so is Jake. Now it seems like we're piling on Jayville. I don't know anything about him. I don't know anything about him. Yeah, I don't want to say it. I actually, I think, no, I don't know. I don't know. Okay.
Starting point is 00:46:37 A Pirates walk-up songs were so bad. And Philly's walk-up music was so good. Yeah. What was wrong in the Pirates? What was it? Dude, it was just a bunch of deep cuts. They just weren't like stadium walk-up songs. Like, I think that as a player, you need to have something that gets you in the mood.
Starting point is 00:46:52 but also like kind of gets the crowd going a little bit. Like D-D has notorious. So the whole crowd, no, no. And then Little Baby Toe had La Bamba, which was fun. And they had a bunch of like, oh, Bryce Harper's had a big beat to it. And the Pirates was just like, you were listening to some underground college radio station. And every time it came on, you're like, what is this? And like if you have, you know, if you're a country guy and you're going to play a country song,
Starting point is 00:47:22 you can have upbeat, hitting country songs. They had like deep cut country music, like country music, not pop country. Like, didn't get you going up. And not indie music, but just like some deep track country music. There was one picture that came out. I was like, where are we? What is this? Newman was the best.
Starting point is 00:47:42 When those country boys get together, it's annoying. It says the L.A. dude. I'm serious. I play with so many country boys that you get them together. and they start talking about country boy things and then you get that kind of music. It's sad and depressing. Although I enjoy the music, I agree with you.
Starting point is 00:48:00 It's not ballpark walk-up song. I only listen to sad depressing music on my own time, but if I had a walk-up song, I'm not going out to like, you know, set Mad World. Actually, that's a great walk-up song if the crowd gets into it. It's juice world, Jim. All around me are familiar. Your places
Starting point is 00:48:22 Coming out of the bullpen You'd come out to that No I wouldn't I'm saying If the stadium got into it That could You could flip that To a fun time
Starting point is 00:48:34 That's more like a reliever coming out You need that to build Or like Mad Max Yeah you need it to build Okay anyway Outfield in the NL Good job Austin Riley I do think he's gonna get jumped
Starting point is 00:48:47 I think one of the big name First Basements Mani Aronado turns it on for the final month. JT. They're in a run right here. He's about to lead them to the playoffs. Butthead, Storelli.
Starting point is 00:48:58 Well, let me say the nice thing after. Shout out to Young Thick. Shout out to Anthopolis for sticking with Young Thick and the Braves Orgs, because I know Trev, your AL, all-JM third baseman you wanted to go over. Now Young Thick looks like one of the best young three Bs in the game. We got seven minutes on the clock. NL outfield. Bryce Harper, he's there.
Starting point is 00:49:22 He's still going off. His batting average starts with a three. His on-base starts with a four. Slugging is 590. His OPS starts with the one dot. Clear cut. Juan Soto. Not an all-star.
Starting point is 00:49:34 Was not an all-star. Yes. Juan Soto, he's also up there. His numbers are looking good. Jesus. He's very close to a 300 batting average. 298. Look at his on-base percentage.
Starting point is 00:49:46 That's a... 4-43. Did you hear his quote? I know Jake did because Jake tweeted about it. Well, and so it was like, they were talking about how he gets walked all the time. And he was like, whenever they want to play, I'm ready to play. But if they don't want to play, I'll take first. It was something along that line.
Starting point is 00:50:01 That wasn't word for word. But it's an all-time quote. It's really good. Are you trying to pull it up? He's the real, real deal. He's got four gibbies this year, one that Treve shares with him. So we have Brian Reynolds or are we bouncing it? Brian stays this month.
Starting point is 00:50:17 We referenced young Brian Reynolds earlier. He's having an incredible year. His slugging is higher than Juan Soto's. Sitting 299, 382 on base. He plays center field most nights. Brian Reynolds having an incredible year. All-JM team, I do have a feeling he may get, for lack of a better term, and I don't like this word, fucked next month.
Starting point is 00:50:42 Oh, my God. Oh, me, man. That's how you curse. That in the books. On the mound. We got a lot of, what's this? We got, like, is Freed Burns Wheeler? So I think Freed was put in, if we're giving out, like, a silver slugger for hitter
Starting point is 00:51:15 because he's hitting 325 this year. Whoops. Who's his hitting coach? Well, and then Trey Turner's are util. Right now, right? Ray Turner, I think he gets util over Chris Taylor. We always talk about Chris Taylor. I haven't seen him yet.
Starting point is 00:51:28 I don't care. He's over it. Corbyn Burns is our pitcher. What the hell? Yeah, Trey Turner gets. First of all, Gordon Burns likes us. Very nice to us in Milwaukee. And he is also absolutely filthy.
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Starting point is 00:52:57 1809 with it. Trevor, you have a question in the back. Not a question or a statement. It's actually Walker Bueller, who is leading the Syung Vegas odds. He's minus 120. Corbyn Burns is in second place
Starting point is 00:53:13 with plus 225, and Coach Treb did give you that little sprinkle at the beginning of season for Walker. It's a sprinkle off. It's a sprinkle off. Jim, who was yours? For Si?
Starting point is 00:53:28 NL. Si. I can get it up right now. I don't know. Three minutes. Burns, Bueller. Burns Bueller. Jim, who do you like out of Burns and Bueller before I bring up any other pitchers?
Starting point is 00:53:45 Oh my God, I was doing the search, and I just had like over one or more runs allowed instead of one or less, and I was so fucking confused at the results. I could see that. Yeah, because I had Kyle Hendricks having like 18. He's like, what? Zach Wheeler's still in the mix as well.
Starting point is 00:54:02 Yeah, he had a tough start. It had a tough two starts, I believe. Yeah. Six innings pitched one earn, run or less in the NL. The top two, or there's three guys tied with 14. Woodruff and Burns, both have 14 games with six innings pitch, one earn, run or less. The law firm out there just winning cases. I goodness.
Starting point is 00:54:24 Walker Bueller also. 14, one earned. And they got the new intern that's going to be a partner, so. Go brew crew. Dude. Burns has a 0.64 whip in those starts. Like when he's on, you're just fucked. It's burns for me.
Starting point is 00:54:43 Wow. Eat shit. Why? Who didn't have burns? Grab's a Bueller guy until he dies. Oh, you have Bueller? No, I said, no, I said Corbyn Burns. Yeah, we all had Burns.
Starting point is 00:54:55 sweepfest I thought you were talking about your sprinkle Walker is going to win the Sall Young Gotcha Big month out of Walker Bueller Another stat page to go check out when you're bored today Because you know he's good You don't realize he's that good
Starting point is 00:55:10 Walker Bueller could have an ERA in the ones this year Dumb Dumb Stupid Dumb Dumb Dumb Dumb Dumb Dumb Oh my God All right Flip your vote Treve it doesn't matter
Starting point is 00:55:24 Take Walker You got the Dodgers hat on Say it I mean, Burns, he likes us, but he's never come on the show. He's not an official friend of the program, but Walker is. Say it. Corbyn's for the August all-league team. I'm taking Walker Bueller.
Starting point is 00:55:41 I've been on Walker Bueller for some time. I'm taking Walker Bueller, all jam team. I'm doing mean girls. I'm splitting the crown in half and throwing it at both of them. Hmm. Jake sucks. Thanks, guys. Love you very much. Appreciate you every day for still listening.
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