Talkin' Baseball (MLB Podcast) - 388 | Dream World Series Matchups & Who Ya Should Know

Episode Date: September 8, 2021

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Hello and welcome to talking baseball. It's the midweek show, and we have each brought a conversation that we're dying to have. So let's talk some baseball. Hello and welcome to talking baseball brought to you by Draft Kings. My name is Jimmy sitting next to me is Jake. And in the corner is producer BPD. The three of us are coming from the Beach House because it's Beach Week. And Trevor is California Strong, California Bro.

grew up on a surfboard and he's coming to you from California. Used to sleep on a surfboard. How you doing, Trev? James, Jacob, big, big dong. I did not sleep on a surfboard. I had bunk beds actually with my older brother. I'm just kind of cool. I like that a lot.

Things are good out here, though. I miss you boys. I like that you're having fun at the beach house. I got a little bit of FOMO. I do want to pose a question to you before we start. Okay. I know this is talking baseball. This is kind of a football question, more of a fan question.

As you guys know, me and Maddie's staff, our relationship is just taking off. Yes. Just real, real good guy. Really like I'm going to the game on Sunday with his fam. Wow, that's awesome. So, you know, look, I got to support my guy. I will be wearing a Matt Staff for Jersey. You know I'm a Seahawks fan.

Did you get the jersey yet? I have. Okay. How'd you get it? Looks good on me. Did you just buy it? Okay. Okay.

Just curious. Yeah, of course. Yeah. Here's the thing. Rams play Seattle. Yeah, when the Rams play Seattle, say I'm watching the game with them. Like, what do I do?

You root for Seattle to win and Stafford to play well. But I don't. No. There's more going on here. There's a chance that I go up to Seattle with them. Oh. Well, it's like, that's my home, but I can't root for Seattle when I'm with them. And now I'm thinking, like, is Maddie's staff going to make me change fully to becoming a Rans fan?

Interesting. Or does he think, would he think less of you if you don't root for your team? And he's like, what, dude? You made me, I changed your fandom. Like, I guess you weren't a big fan at all anyway. I don't think he cares that much. I think it's more of a problem for me. Okay.

Inside. I'm curious what you guys would do. I don't know. I'm very much caught here thinking like, do I just make the switch to becoming a Rams fan today? After being a Seahawks fan, probably for a good eight years now, I want to say. That doesn't really like, how big of a fan are you? I have the answer. Jake's got the answer.

Treve. Okay. This is game one with a new friend in L.A. Mm-hmm. You can still believe in your Seahawks and they can lose this game. This game is huge for your new friend, Matt Stafford. Well, it's not game one, right? Yeah, no, I'm going game one.

They're playing the Bears. Yeah, game one he's running for Stafford. That's easy for me. I'm talking about going up into Seattle. When is that game? It's later on. You've got so much to play off by then, Trev. You're rooting for your guy until them.

That's a later problem. When they get to Seattle, if that game, matters, then you're in a tight squeeze, then we've got to get creative. But for now, you're just go, Matt, go, man. The thing is, it's not like baseball either. Like, he, like, one player can make a huge difference. So, like, I don't know, man. I love Russell Wilson, love me some maddy staff.

I'm leaning like I just might convert. Sounds like you're a Rams fan. I mean, why don't you watch him play once? Do you think that if we do a live show in Santa Monica or in your area, you again, you would invite him to come and sit in the family section to watch you record. Wow. How deeps this friendship go? Things just got real.

Just got real. Easy, James. Only the only the cream of the crop get to watch us record. Okay. That's true. Right now, Zach's here. He's not even looking at us. Yeah.

Can't. Jake, how you doing? Trev. I didn't get an answer, by the way. You guys did not know. You're rooting for Matt Stafford in the Rams this weekend. They're playing the Bears. When you go to Seattle,

here's the answer. If you don't root for Seattle, when you go to Seattle, you can't like take off that game. That does kind of end it. And then say, but I'm going to be a Seattle fan later on. So at that point,

you do have a very hard decision to make because you will be ending your fandom or you will be staying loyal to Seattle. When you go to Seattle, you will bet the over. Because then you're rooting for both teams. So that's a solution. there. And then you play the result at that point.

You know, if... Ooh, like a one game for my fandom? Yeah, absolutely. I mean, that's, you know, you're already teetering. If Matt Staff drops it in front of the 12th man and your 13th man, like, you know, that's kind of it. Like, you're a Matt Staff guy. Okay. Problem solving. Jake, how are you doing, man?

Good, man. We're at the beach. We got the dogs floating around. We're in like the Midler area Beach Week. You know, the week. weekend just happened, Labor Day. Oh, snap, that was lit. You know, we've got a couple, we've got a couple friends coming tomorrow that kind of starts like the second half of Beach Creek. Right now, we're in transition. We're cranking out a lot of work. Me and Zach are just editing and editing, looking at Zach at it. But, yeah, man. Mondays and Tuesdays are big. It's Monday's and Tuesdays. So we're, it's kind of, this is the tough. This is where we mix business with pleasure. This is, you know, you're having lasagna and cheesecake,

and you're like, whoa, this is getting real. So, you know, we're going to crank through the week. And then I think, you know, through tomorrow, you know, dogs are getting groomed at that point. Like the end of Beach Week is going to, like, one up the start of Beach Week. It's true. It's true, Trev. You'd be jealous because we played Spikeball on the beach yesterday

as the sun was setting. It was beautiful. And we walked and got ice cream. And then we watched some funny movies together. And tonight, I'm cooking for everyone, so you'll be super jealous. I am jealous of you guys. When's the earliest beer cracked? Like, what was the earliest time a beer was cracked?

I don't know. That's not me. I don't think we've done it. Mondays and Tuesdays are work days. Well, not Mondays and Tuesdays. I think Sunday. Sunday was a little before noon. Yeah.

Oh, you guys are being responsible. Yeah. A lot of people. Dogs. Baby or two. Yeah, there's kids on the weekend. Slow burn. Yeah.

All right. Jake's got something he wants to talk about. Late night, Saturday, Triff. Jake and I researched our butts off for this episode, just to let everyone know. Yeah. A lot of lesser pods, they go on a beach week. They're not jamming tons of shows and research into their days, you know? We brought it.

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Roman. So I'll walk you guys through my full thought process, midweek episode. Bring some topics. Jim, you know there's a topic I absolutely love, but it's going to have to wait a week or two. It's the final two weeks to change your whole season's outlook. I love that. So I'm going to save that for a couple weeks. you know, the guys that are at like a 780 OPS.

Two good weeks, you're an 800 OPS guy. So we're going to save that. That goes on the back burner. So where I decided to land, Trev, you know we love giving dudes love on this show, get Roman. And, you know, I think a lot of these guys for us aren't going to be huge cuts because we're baseball pot. We're the number one baseball pot in the world.

But I think it's just going to be a little eye-opener. Because I wanted to compare some of the big names that you just know. I call this segment who you know and who you should know for the 2021 season. So I just went by position and I got some player comp stuff going up that I think will really make people appreciate some of these guys just a little more. So we'll chew through it quick. So, you know, the first one that I think I want to talk about, well, we'll go around the horn.

I'll go to catcher. And the cream of the crop in catching, if you're any baseball fan, you know it's JT. Real Mood. It's been him for the past couple years. BPD's Philly's infield pick, they constantly get to discuss. And guess what? JT. is having a great year. He turned it around.

It started a little slow, but 111 games. And there's a reason I wanted to highlight him. Because there's the next tier of catchers. There's a couple guys that are having great years that should be discuss. Narvaez, Murphy, like Will Smith, and we stumbled into this last episode, and it's just kind of, I don't understand

why Will Smith doesn't get talked about more. I don't know if it's... I told you. Kershaw and the personal catcher. I don't know if it's his name. It's a very boring name. So... He's like the fifth most famous Will Smith. This might even, for the real baseball people, this is going to seem like a soft open. Will Smith has a, so him and JT have played the same amount of games, so I thought that was fun.

111 on the nose. Wow. Will Smith has 22 homers, JT is 14. They both are hitting 265. Will Smith has a better on-base percentage by 25 points, 375 to 350. A better weighted runs created plus 138 to 113. I mean, Will Smith is the cream of the crop this year. And, you know, I know end of last episode we stumbled into his career stats

and that they're all on par with that. Will Smith has an argument for the best catcher in baseball, and I don't think he should back down from it. His defensive stuff rates positively this year. And I just think, I have some lesser names in the baseball. baseball community coming up at positions, but that's where I landed on the catcher position. I like it. That's good to know. Ramurdo definitely has the majority of the market share in the catcher premier name.

Is that like that came out of nowhere, the best catcher in baseball. I think like... You know what it was? Did he trademark that or something? Like, did somebody, was somebody that before him? Like, did they call people that? A lot of people are getting upset right now. Cardinals fans, Giants fans, a lot of the people that have premier catchers.

But Ramuto, when he puts up offensive numbers, they're like really good. Miami had some beat reporters, and they had not a lot going on. Yeah. So the one thing that was coming out of Miami for a little bit, a couple years, I think 17, 18, was Real Mudo's the best catcher in baseball. That was almost the tagline. So the Dodgers, they don't need to hype up Will Smith because he's probably 10th on their hype-up list. Real middle had two years there where he was like, the dude.

Yeah. Getting love. It's crazy because you look at his overall offensive numbers, Will Smith, I'm talking now. They're incredible. And he's going to hit sixth, seventh in their lineup. Probably more on the Dodgers lineup later. Can I ask you a question, Jeff? Your point, Jim, I think that's maybe another reason why people.

I mean, I'm in LA. I hear Will Smith all the time. His middle name is Dills. Now, do you think if his name was Dillie? Smith, he'd be more well known. If at birth, they decided, we're naming you Will Smith. It's a family name, but, you know, or maybe like, you know, he goes to kindergarten, first grade, and the nickname Dilly Sticks because his middle name's Dills.

And the Dodgers catcher's name is Dilly Smith. This is name and more headlines. The answer is yes. Yeah. Dilly, Dilly. No, there's no argument there, Jim. Yeah, and I think the, where I didn't want to compare this was Salvi Perez, who's now at 41 homers.

His defensive metrics grayed out pretty poorly this year, and I know that's been a hot in the streets topic on the internet. Offensively on the whole, and hey, this is some fan graphs and number stuff, but they're saying Will Smith is having a better offensive season than Salvi Perez, who just hit his 41st homer the other day. So Dill Smith, as he's now known on this show, that should be an off-season conversation. Is Dill Smith the best catcher in baseball?

Moving on, I think this next one... Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Just one, before we move on, I like this topic. So I like catchers. Sure. You guys are catchers guys, too. Jimmy, you love... Jim, big catchers guy.

I can't take that over him. Yeah. Okay. Where's Posey at right now? So, I think... Like, come on. Like, you got to mention this guy. He is a part of the conversation with the year he's having.

He is toe-to-to-to-with-will-smith. Offensively, Will Smith does have... him clip this year. Well, actually, it becomes the catchers' games played conversation. And as I think we're going to talk about later in the episode, I think Dill and

Buster, trademark that. Dill and Buster. I would go Buster and Dill. I think the off-season best catcher conversation, especially on the left coast, I think a lot of this postseason could decide that. So, and again,

teasers for later in the episode. Posey's just been doing it. That San Francisco Giants coaching staff, it's crazy. Who could have foresaw that being a hot topic? It's genius. I could because you told me. Yeah, thank you, James.

I believed. It's boring combo, but you definitely told me. We argued about that. Shots fired. Was that pandemic talk? No, it's PPP. It's PPP. PPP.

I think we were just getting into like the heart of the TPPs, and it was like, what does anything really mean? And the Giants, it turned out they meant something this year. Trevor's all over. Trevor Plouffe with the scoop in the buff being rude. All right, so this next one, Trev, there's a guy now playing first base in the Bronx. Anthony Rizzo, oh, Tony Rizzo. Everyone in baseball knows him.

He's beloved. Got the Cubs of the trophy. He's on the Yanks right now. going to get them the trophy. Everyone in baseball, you know Rizzo. He slaps it around. He wasn't having the great first half to this year. Hopefully his numbers are going to continue to pick up.

But, you know, he's like a one and a half war right now. You know, not a crazy season. 249, 345. 117 games, 18 homers. There was two guys I really considered highlighting from the first base position. The guy who stood out, and he's a guy that I know we've started to enjoy talking about, but it's Thai France.

Ty France, his offensive numbers go toe to toe with a lot of big names. 292, 364 of 449 slugging. The defensive numbers actually don't love him on fan graphs. I was between him and Yule, but I think Yuley is known, especially with some of those Astros runs. Oh, the dogs are pissed that I didn't mention Yuley. And I could see him even battling. He was in the batting title.

Thai France is now on the all you need to know in baseball team. Fan Graf likes his season above. Joey Vado, Jose Abrae, Pete Alonzo. I mean, the big names at the position. I mean, I'm learning. That's what I'm getting the Thai France. You do have to a caveat of like this is like on a single season. And the reason you know names is for multiple seasons.

And that's, I wanted to get some of the young guys out there. And I did leave out a couple, I don't want to say a couple fluke risks, but I tried to leave out a couple fluke risks. Okay. I mean, Ty France leads the league and hit by pitch, 22. I wonder if he changed his stance. He's following Rizzo. Yeah.

He did have a good 2020 as well. I know it's a short season. So you can say two years in a row now, though. Well, just let's combine him and see what the total, his last 171 games is 130 OPS plus. It's pretty good. That's really good.

Good job by Ty France. It's interesting because he's kind of a late bloomer too. He's 27 years old now. debuted at 24, 2019 with the Padres. Yeah, I need to take a closer look at him. Let's do it. The hit by pitches does suggest that he got closer to the plate. taking away the outside corner.

I need to go to a deep dive. You brought that up, Jim. Now my mind is spinning. It's racing. I might be giving the best color commentary that's ever been getting in this episode. Thank you, James. Thank you.

You did say, Jake, they were going to know a lot of these names because we are a baseball pod. Thai France has kind of been all over our radar, my fellow countrymen. He's also from L.A., from Downey. Oh. I'm kind of into him now.

An L. Frenchman. A deep guy. Maybe that'll be my Thursday sequence episode. Look at that, ad. Flip play live, or is that tomorrow? It's today, later today. Okay. Oh, wait.

Yesterday by the time. It'll be yesterday when people are listening. So time travel a little bit. Fellas, a couple things on the second base position. Second base normally thought about as kind of a slight position, there are a lot of guys having years now. I thought about Jonathan India. I actually, Jim, left him off for the pure rookie part

and because he hasn't added Treviot as a friend. So at second base, I brought up Whitmerfield. Everyone in baseball knows and loves Whitmerfield. If you've been following baseball, like the guy you knew on the Royals the past few years was Whitmerfield. And he plays his game. Like, let's be honest, he's a contact hitter. and I think his last couple seasons have fallen off a little bit.

Guys, there were options here. Even Treffs Jorge Polanco in Minnesota has turned it back on, but since their games haven't mattered, I actually eliminated him. Wow. And the twins don't really know what to do with him. So that's a conversation for the offseason, I think. I'm giving it to B. Lau.

Man, Brandon Lau, do you guys know how many homers he has on the year? 25. 30-something, right? 33. I saw that on the bottom line. It shocked me. Brandon Lowe is going to sneak up on a 40 homer 100 RBI here. Is he really?

He's got 82 RBI, 84 runs. Man, a 504 slugging from a second baseman. His offensive numbers, I mean, him, Simeon, Muncie, and Polanco are kind of in, rare air for second baseman this year. So I want to give B. Laugh one of the engines behind the Tampa Bay Rains train

some love. Good for him. If you do go over his stats this year, they basically mirror his career stats. Didn't he fit, didn't he hit like an awful slump last year? Wasn't he on Slump Watch for like the whole last month of the season?

I think he was really hot. Best player in the first month than the worst. He was MVP. Talk. First month last year. And then in the... And I think he got out to a slow start again in April this year. We can double check the stats. Yeah. And then it was a tough postseason besides like one big, big home run, I believe. And this is, this is so freaking raise. They got him right now doing, you just said he might have, he's closing in 40 and 100 from a second baseman. They signed him to a six-year

$24 million deal, which runs through 24. And guess what? It's got team options for 25 and 26. They signed him for a six year, $24 million contract. I think that was in 2019, so I think that might have been like... Some of his arm. Most of his arm.

That's $4 million a year. Yeah. When you guys signed... They signed him after 2018, I believe he had 43 games into his career. The Reyes gongray. He's gone ray.

Dude, I hope the CBA fixes that. he's locked in at four million dollars a year that's that's him taking that's him taking yeah i guess but they're buying out arbitration because he knows he's not going to be a free there should be fewer arbitration years so they can't buy you out on the cheap four million dollars a year he's then how old is he he's 20 he just turned 27 and he has five years left of this if they want they have until he's 34 his ability to make big money is off the table, no matter how good he plays. I don't know what his options. Let's go look at his options.

I'm looking at them. He makes four million. The options are 10 and a half and 11 and a half. Makes four, 5.2 and 8.7. I mean, he's getting paid money, but I mean, he could become a top 10 player and never get his worth ever. That's crazy. Well, yeah, if he was going into like, say, let's say second year arm, and he's putting these type of numbers up.

he's going to command 10 to $11 million. Usually when you buy out a guy's ARB, you have to, at the end, it has to get the $10 million. That's kind of standard. That's what it is at the end, right? No, those are the options. For tax years.

What's the last year? And they're not going to pick up those options at the race. The last year before options is 8.7. They, each year goes up. And they usually, because they did, those are on.

So they'll trade him. They'll trade him before his last year. Yeah, because he's locked in to be in cheap. of shit. That sucks. That's Ray's going Ray. I'm going to I'm going to be so pro Ray in my segment and then

that's the shit that makes me so anti-ray right there. Wait, but like I don't know. It's not the Ray's fault. No, I mean he didn't even bet on himself so that's kind of disappointing. It's not even the CBA necessarily because this is this format of

team control has been going on for a long time so it is. They need a less in the years. It doesn't need to Yeah. But this is going to, this will continue to go on no matter what. Teams offering money to young guys. I know, but I know. I just think they need a less than the years. Because if you break into the league at 26,

you're going to take a deal where you buy it, your arbitration. Did you, the MLB put an offer out, which is ridiculous. I think it was like $29 guaranteed or something like that. Can't go into LaborPod yet. Can't. I can't wait. I'm so juiced up.

Labor pod. Coming soon. A little love for B. Be freaking loud. I think third base, this is going to become more of an appreciation because he's almost a day one talking baseball guy. The comparison I'm going to throw out is Chris Bryant. Chris Bryant, who I checked with the Giants, he actually played more third base than outfield so far, which was surprising. Longoria just came back, so I think that changes.

But we've had so many debates on this show, Chris Brian, is he a third baseman? Is he not a third baseman? What's going on? Chris Bryant, he's in San Fran now. Speaking of a guy who should get the bag, Hope Trev's still listening because I think Chris Bryant could be a, you know, 100 mil plus type free agent this year. And there's a guy.

He's a favorite of talking baseball. So the people here, it's just a reminder of how good his season really is. It's young thick Austin Riley. Chris Bryant has a 129 way. weighted runs created plus. You know, one of, if you put his numbers with third baseman, they're one of the top third baseman this year. Young Thick is putting him under the table.

A 305 batting average from Young Thick. 377 on base, a 538 slugging. A 141 weighted runs created plus. Know who's that one weighted runs created plus, 141 from Young Thick, is higher than Devers and Ramirez as well. Young Thick is having a special year. I do think he is breaking through as well as people knowing that, more so than Thai France. As it comes in the Braves and that team.

But holy crap, man. I need to go back and look what I said exactly about Austin Riley. Did I motivate him? Was I being like, hey, man, you got to step up? Or did I say something like, if it hasn't happened, not going to happen? I know I said some things because I wanted J-Ram there. So I need to go check that out. Lots to figure it out.

But yeah, a young thick appreciation. His, the only other third baseman with offensive numbers that are in his flight zone are Jose Ramirez and Raphael Devers this year. Dude, the Braves have so much space, so much money to spend. I was doing a little dive on it this morning. 77 million and guaranteed money next year. You were just in the Braves finance. financials this morning? I was, I was.

That's not, we're the number one baseball pod, of course I am. You're right. That's without Freddie Freeman, obviously. So please resign Freddy. It's going to cost you

$30 million. Right? Do it. Put some at $107, guaranteed money. They can go out and get a lot more to compliment. And then maybe you throw a little bit

of a bag at Austin Riley. Like, they're going to try to do that. Oh, they've definitely tried with all their young guys because that just that gives them a better area to play in coming forward yeah the cunia 700 is obviously incredible for them now they do have max reid coming up he's going to start making some money as well um but it wouldn't shock me if they made a few offers to riley they don't have to that's the thing is that the leverage is so much

in the team's here they don't have to offer anything they could just say cool man we love how good you are. And now we've got three more years and we can just pay you. If you're good, we'll pay you what you're worth, but not really because you're comped at your first year arbitration. So it'll be interesting. I'm going to, I'm going to think about that and maybe give you guys a number at the end of the show that I think the Braves might offer him this year. That's huge. Stay tuned for that. The shortstop position, I mean, this got a little tricky for me because, you know, you can't give Trey Turner any more love. Crawford having a monster year. But again, if you're a baseball guy, you know Brandon Crawford.

Nikki Lopez would have been the real outside shot, having a nice year for Kansas City, racking up some more. But the answer is just Willie Adomis, which, again, if you're talking baseball, faithful, you know what's going on. But I do think people think of Willie Adamas is almost a raised party trick. And now that he's on the Brewers, like kind of that Brewer's Magic as well. Willie Adamas on the year has 22 homers. That is, excuse me,

you know, that's tied with Carlos Correa for home runs this season. Willie Adamas has a 484 slugging that is the same as Carlos Correa's. You know, he's out batting average guys like, or not batting average, on base, Tim Anderson.

You know, just some of the class short stops of the league. And I know we've been saying like, Willie Domas has been good with Tampa. There's a story there that makes sense. We are going to have to see it next year to fully believe, but he said he couldn't see the ball in Tampa. All of the numbers passed that check.

And man, he's nasty with the glove too. And a nice smile. He smiled at us. He dapped us up. He showed us some tongue in Milwaukee. So like full Willie Adamas. I'm going to try and find his split. where I take out this season.

I don't want to take out any time with the race. I want to take out every game at the TROP. TROP games. Since he went on record saying, I couldn't see there. I think his career numbers, if you take out the TROP, are like, whoa. Shout out, Willie, because it was his birthday a couple days ago on September 2nd. He turned 26 years old. Whoops.

That's crazy. You know, yeah, to go on the smile and the tongue. I didn't see tongue. I don't know where you saw tongue. Oh, you weren't there. You left. You went up. You went to the bathroom.

You went to the bathroom and he flashed tongue at us. Slugging beers all day at the Brewer's game, which makes sense. Six foot two, ten. Like, he's got a nice body. He looks good in a uni too. Like, that matters. That does matter. He's got confidence.

I mean, it doesn't matter for moose. Yeah, he's the, what do you call that? Exception to the rule. Sure. That's not what I was going to say, but yeah. Trevor Story, who also might get, who will get 100 mil plus bag this offseason, Willie Adomis is out hitting him in basically every category this year.

So that's, you know, just a scope for our guy, slick Willie. That brings us to the outfield. You know what, let me get this out of the way because this blew my mind, and I want you guys to check out the numbers after. jump to centerfield. Because I was like, okay, who can I compare it to? Because there's a couple guys in center field who are on very bad teams that are having incredible years.

Cedric Mullins and Brian Rounds. We talk about them a lot. We talk about them a lot. And they deserve it. They've been on the all-JM teams. They are stars of this game, what they're doing offensively. Guys, I didn't have anyone to compare them to because none of the good centerfielders have played games this year.

Byron Buxton has played 37 games. Luis Robert 46. Mike Trout, 36. Cotell Marte, 68. Luriano, 88. Cedric Mullins and Brian Reynolds are the only two guys who are centerfield, center field. Sorry to how the Chris Taylor stands out there.

Cedric Mullins and Brian Reynolds just need super love. Cedric Moulins as well. What's he got to play for? Besides just trying to prove that he's so good. He's just trying to get 3030, 26 homers, 26 steals. 307, 370, a 538 slug from Cedric Mullins. Like him and Brian Reynolds, who casual 299, 382, 513 slug, what they're doing in center field is unmatched across the league.

A couple people could bark about Starling Marte stuff, with that, but he also missed a bunch of games and his stolen base. His numbers are kind of skewing things, which skewing sounds illegal, and I love you, Starland, but Mullins and Reynolds, they don't even have the baseline to compare this year, because people haven't been there.

Yeah, and, I mean, Reynolds is, Mullins, we know what happened. He stopped hitting right-handed and became a superstar. I love that story. It's a great freaking story. Reynolds, though, great 2019, compared terrible to what he's doing this year, a little bit under the mark. But then 2020, the pandemic

year was not kind of him. And I wonder why. I haven't asked a lot of guys. You know, I think that'd be a fun little segment that we do. Like, let's go see, see who struggled during the pandemic year and who flourished. And then try to find out why. Like, why do you think Brian Reynolds went from an 880 OPS in 2019 to a 632? Can it be because they saw the same, they saw the same pitch? Just more often. With that, you know, they played indivision. There was less travel. They saw it.

They only played nine other teams. The more you see the pitchers, the better, dude. Can it just be too bad months? Like, it was 60 games last year. Yeah, it could be. Yeah. It could be the, hey, he didn't get a chance to get hot. The A's, is I'm rocking the A's jersey.

They didn't give me a chance to get hot in 2017. They shot me and threw me out the pastures. Is that what people say? Yeah. Let me compare you to livestock. Normally I'm the livestock comp on here. All right, I have his numbers. In 61 games, 264 played appearances, not at the Trop.

Willie Adamas slash line is a 314 batting average, 371 on base percentage, 541 slugging 912 OPS from the shortstop position. Those are insane, incredible numbers. This guy was on record saying it was hard for him to pick up the ball at the Trop, which was his home stadium. So every game he's played not at the Trop, 314, 371, 912 slugging in his games at the Trop, 156 batting average, 229 on base percentage, 557 OPS. I think he was telling the truth.

Who do you get traded for? Fire Eisen and another reliever. Oh my goodness. The Brewers are peacocking that around the league. The Brewers... I got to check these numbers out. Does that make sense? Well, I think the rays are punching so much air about their dumb stadium.

Yeah. Because, like, they can't do... I don't, I almost don't fault the rays for doing that, like, getting rid of him. Right. But... But, like, that's cheap. That's freaking cheap. Do you think the brew crew, we met some of their brain trust?

Do you think they just read that article and were like, every team had that information, right? Dude. There's no way that nobody looked that up. Trevor, that's what I would love to know, because you know the race had conversations about Willie Adamas with other teams. How many of them had a hunch and were willing to rate? Fire rising and another reliever?

We're talking about a 26-year-old starting short stuff. The other reliever is Rasmussen, who I think Glass now said, has like the nastiest stuff in their pen. Right, and it's raised. But they like him. It's a short stuff. But yes. It's relievers who the rays breed slash trade for.

They like both guys they got, but. A lot of horse jokes today. The rays were punching air when they decided they had to trade Adomas. Like what do we do? Like we have to trade them. We didn't have to trade. I don't know, man. I don't know, man.

The Brewers raised. The brewer's raised. So, hey, Cedric Mullins and Brian Reynolds, when you guys are talking baseball this year, this off season, talk about what they did in center field. Literally is not match this year.

Chris Taylor, little love, but again, your utility thing has screwed you this year. So we have two short kings on this list. Trevin, we've got short kings coming. Are you giving B. Lowe short king? Not really. I don't have him as a short king. 510.

It feels honest, and that's like back in the day, that's kind of what you wanted your second basement to be. Is 5-9 the cutoff for short king, or is it 5-8? I think in pro sports it's like 5-9, but Jake's saying do we trust that he's actually 5-10 and Jake and I both trust it. That's the game. When I see B-Low on the field, it feels 5-10.

Like if B. Lowe said he was six foot, then I might call him a short king. Because you're a liar. Like Gene Siguera is listed. Gene Siguera is listed 5'10. We saw Gene Siguera up close. This is nowhere near. 5'8. Easy. I mean, yeah.

Easy. It's also the body composition. B. Low is a little bit thinner. You know, you get that whole thing, the visual there. Segura is very much Jake. If Brandon Low was 511, I don't think we'd flinch. listed 5-11. So that's on him.

Speaking of Short Kings and man, if you're a raise fan, this episode is going to be all over the goddamn board for you. Because in the corner outfield, my who you knows are actually race. Friend of the pod, Austin Meadows, who's been having a really nice season. Yeah.

No respect to meds. I don't think not. A.L. East fans know his name. I think baseball people, world series and stuff, I think you're in it. The other guy. It's gotten so much discussion. The other guy. That's a good point. The other guy you have to know because he's

the best ever. Randy or Rosarayna. You know his name. He's the best to ever play baseball. I'll start with meds. He's having a nice year. I think he was on an all-JM team. 124 games, 24 homer, 72 or

excuse me, 97 RBI. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Med's having a nice year. A 115. Weighted runs, Created Plus. Trev, speaking of Short Kings. Tyler O'Neill. Yes, I knew you were going there.

A 130 weighted runs created plus. 23 homers. He's got a 509 slugging. 343 on base. Here's the thing that was interesting that I need some Cardinals. I test. I need to know what's going up with the defensive metrics.

Tyler O'Neill, he currently grades out as the number one left fielder on fan graphs. Yeah. Hell yeah. All of the guys behind him, and this is where I need more info, it takes 12, 11 guys,

until you get to Tony Kemp, till you get a positive defensive men. metric out of another left fielder. What do you mean by that? I don't understand what that means. So the way they measure war. Yeah, but what list are you looking at? Fan graphs. Fan graphs. War?

Yes. Okay. So you're saying that it's only him and then 12 guys down to Tony Kemp and they're the only ones with positive defense of war. And some of them half makes sense. Like Yorda Nalvarez is on there. I mean, Winker, Kana, Tama. Oscar Hernandez, Rosa Rana, Schwarber, Darren Ruff, Brantley, Pollock, Verdugo, Robbie Grossman, Tony Kemp and Adam Duvall are next.

Adam Duvall is positive. Tony Kemp's at a zero. So I need to know, because that scale doesn't feel right from what I'm reading, is how impactful is Tyler O'Neill's defense? I've heard it's good. I've seen some highlights, but is it that much to bring him above, You know, Jesse Winkers having an incredible season. 560 slugging 395 OPS. Do I think Tyler O'Neill's defense compared to Jesse Winker's defense brings him over him as a better player?

I can't say I believe in that. But the point is Tyler O'Neill's offense is still good enough. Jesse Winker 24 homers, Tyler O'Neill 23. Tyler O'Neill's having a great year. And we were asking for a Cardinals outfielder to do that. and he was the guy. Foolish baseball was having a discussion about the different wars, and he mentioned that his favorite defensive status,

outs above average. You got the list up? Can you do that and see where he's at and where the rest of the guys are at? I don't know how that's calculated. Obviously, the name is easy enough, like how many outs do you make above the average player at your position? Who are we looking for?

I mean... Just a leaderboard. I'm kind of trying to look for it, too. I'm just not as good as getting there. I'm getting there on baseball. Baseball Savon. It has... Tyler O'Neill is the number two

and outs above average behind Dylan Moore, who they have listed as a second basement, so that's a little tricky. I have Michael A. Taylor as the one, Manny Margot, is two, Miles Straws, three... For all outfielders. Yeah.

I was doing left-fielder's only. Oh. Interesting. I've seen him play and the highlights are incredible. He seems like he's like a rocket out there. He almost looks like a safety kind of. Running all over the field, making plays big tackles. Like he's that built too.

So it kind of plays with that. Slow reaction time, positive route running. Good route running. Yeah, which is my favorite thing about these stats. Like Mike Trout has the worst reaction. action time of any outfielder, but the best route running. And so he averages out. JBJ, horrible route running, really fast first steps.

Tyler O'Neill Gold Glove last year, too. Right. That's, you know, and last year they went off the metrics. So clearly the defensive metrics love Tyler O'Neill. I'm sure St. Louis Cardinals fans must. But still, when you compare it, value to value to player to player, we still clearly don't have that perfected. But yeah, you know, a pretty well-respected baseball website

has Tyler O'Neill as your best left fielder this year. And that he deserves some love. And it looks good with his shirt off, so that's a plus. That's huge. That's huge. Yeah, because you can rip his jersey off. You know, if you don't look that great, you don't want your jersey ripped off.

Maybe Alonzo did it, and it was awesome because he didn't look great. Yeah, I think when you're... I bet if you asked him again, he'd be like, I wish you guys didn't do that. He had to own him. I think Alonzo likes it. I think he's a shirt off guy.

Alonzo's a naturally naked guy. Alonzo eats dinner. No shirt. Yes. And that's... His mom tried to fight it. His mom tried to fight it for a while. And, uh...

Like sweaty all the time. Yeah. Like the Alonzo's eat dinner with their shirts off and the mom just had to accept them. Yeah. Does he have like a gronk family? Like a bunch of boys? It's a different vibe. It's a Florida Grongs.

It's the Florida Grongs. It's the baseball Florida Gronks, yeah. Yeah. Be hilarious if we look it up and he's got like seven sisters. It's nice. And then I mentioned, so I mentioned the goat, Randy Roseraine of the best ever. His season was teetering. He's back at it.

275, 356, 19 homers, 13 steals. A little bit of everything from Randy a Roseanne. O'Rena, who also, I mean, if he goes off this postseason, he's the best player ever, hasn't been a ton of Astros love on this list, and it's about time. Kyle Tucker, man, there was a graphic that popped up on the screen the other day. We were watching the Astros Mariners game, and it was pretty funny. They butternifed hard to get the stats down to just Kyle Tucker and Otani and Vlad, I believe. it was like walk percentage, K percentage, and slugging or something.

I don't know. It was a nice butter knife by them. Kyle Tucker is having a really nice year. 286, 344, a 538 slug, a 140 weighted runs created plus. And I guess for him, the one thing is, you know, how many Houston, if I said, tell me about the Houston Astros lineup, how many guys are you naming before Kyle Tucker? And he's arguably having one of the best years on the team. I like that.

And he, this is going to be a little strange and I don't know why I've thought this. Maybe I've heard it somewhere. But when I watch him play, it's, it's like, he's like Abraham Lincoln on the baseball field. Does that make sense? Like if Abraham Lincoln played baseball, it'd be like watching Kyle Tucker play baseball in my mind. Okay. I mean, I will keep that in mind next time I'll watch K-Tock. Yeah, I didn't.

I didn't have that, but now I do. And I, yeah, I gotcha. Tall, tall, skinny. Beard, yeah. High-pitch voice, troublesome kids. Wife hates them. Yeah. Mine's up perfectly.

I can give a speech. Maybe the speech. We'll see on that. So, yeah, that was kind of all who needs to be talked about. I did have a DH. Turns out it's Fran Mill. Oh. Noodle just got in the way of the wires.

again, hey buddy. Fran Mill, his home runs and his numbers are with Nelson Cruz, which in Carlos Stanton, kind of all the class of the class DHS, except he's played 30 less games. So, you know, we kind of ended with Fran Mill the other day. Always give him love. He's big. He's hot. That's my list.

Good job, Jake. Those are guys you need to know. Maybe you didn't know already, but you need to know. That's really good. It's good job. Give guys love. Jake's putting in the work, Trev. Different.

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it's like the longest two minutes you could possibly have in your life. So I was just thinking about the baseball that we had seen And just, you know, pondering stuff And I got hit with like a sudden moment of clarity And I'm late to the party Maybe I am, maybe I'm not I don't think you are It's going to be a race

Giants World Series And we can't do anything to stop it And I need to accept that And so does everyone else Like we can't be surprised by it These two teams just don't lose I mean everyone's waiting for them to lose lose or maybe not the

Ray's but the Giants and they just don't lose and the way they win is ridiculous. The Ray's had no business winning that game against the Red Sox. Nelson Cruz had a little league inside the park home run then they tied it in the ninth inning with an inside the park home run grand slam. What?

That's not real. Since I've been scoreboard watching I flip on the Ray's game they always have they always are down. They're down after the first five every time I flip it on, and they always win, no matter what. The San Francisco Giants, do you remember when they came to Milwaukee and there was a fly ball to right field and that would have ended the game and the Giants were to loss, but Avicel

Garcia just dropped it and the Giants went on to win that game? Remember when, you know, the game would have ended in a tie or prolonged, but then Will Smith at first base just didn't have his foot on the bag and the Giants win? They just win, and I have to accept it. I can't fight it any longer. to see if this is backed up by any stats, just this like these teams just win. And it is.

So the Tampa Bay Rays have the most comeback wins in all of Major League Baseball. They have 43. The next most is 39. The Tampa Bay Rays have the third most blown leads. So when they have it, they keep it. Third most blown leads. most comeback wins or fewest, whatever, yeah.

Third fewest blown leads. That makes. Okay. When they are down in the sixth inning, they have a 32% of the time, they've won the game. When the raise have been down in the sixth inning, more than three out of ten, they win still.

Don't give a crap. That's the most in Major League Baseball. When they are down in the seventh inning, they've won 28% of those games. when they're down in the seventh inning. That's the most in baseball. When they're down in the eighth inning, they've won 25% of those games.

Wow. One out of four, when they're down in the eighth inning, that's the, that's, that's, oh, sorry, sorry, the Rays have won 23% of those games. That's the second most in baseball, down in the eighth inning. When they're down in the ninth inning, the Rays have won 15% of those games.

That's the most in baseball. They simply just win. Can't die. That's incredible. Ray's fans, you guys are watching incredible games. They're the best comeback team in the league. It's nuts. Now, the San Francisco Giants, they're first in fewest blown leads.

So when the Giants have the lead, they'll keep it. They only have 19 blown leads on the season. No other team has less than 20. They are second in winning games when they're down in the sixth to the race. 30% of the times they've been down in the sixth they've won it. They're second in winning games when they're down in the seventh inning. They're first in winning games when they're down in the eighth inning. 25% of the time.

And they are second down in the ninth. So those two teams, the numbers completely back up what my high brain was trying to calculate. Like you just can't count these two teams out. They're just going to win no matter what. It's funky things. other teams are going to make errors. You're going to have inside the park home runs. The first basement is just not going to have a foot of them back.

So I can't fight it anymore. It'll be the raised giants in the World Series. It'll be the West Coast versus the East Coast. And we will all watch it. And they will be wild. And who knows who will win? That is a nightmare for MLB, I believe. Giants are a good market.

But it's going to come true because you said it's going to come true. Those numbers are crazy. Those raise numbers are insane. I wonder, it has to do with the fact that they just don't, they don't give up crooked numbers. So the games are never really, they're never four or five down. They're always going to be two, three down.

And in my experience, I reference this team all the time because I saw them and they changed the way bullpens are used, the Kansas City Royals, 2014 to 2015. Didn't matter if you were up by a run or two. you needed more because you weren't going to score again in the seventh, eighth, or ninth. And even the sixth when Hochever was going nuts, it was Hoechever, Wade Davis, Kelvin Herrera, and Greg Holland.

You just weren't going to score. So you had to prevent them from scoring any more runs, and you knew you weren't going to score. It just made you feel like every single game, like they had a chance. And then when that thought enters a team's mind, I mean, it lets it in. I feel like it's probably the same for both these teams, what they do on defense and their pitching staff. Their bullpens, the way they handle their staffs. I bet you they play the closest.

Like they've had the least amount of, I don't know how to say it. Like they haven't been behind by five runs very often, I bet you. Yeah. I do have one caveat I should have started. I only took in the numbers of playoff potential teams. so like if the Marlins are better at this I didn't count them or I doubt they are

or the Cubs that's the kind of thing I did Toronto Tampa Bay St. Louis, Giant Seattle I think you should be good Jim because I think our Turkey math makes sense on this the rays are first in Bullpenny RA the Giants are number two

I guarantee you however the rays do their defensive stuff it works I can promise you that I don't know what unit of measurements you use, but I promise you it works. And San Francisco, that's the only thing I can't speak of. I've only watched so many San Francisco games. But, you know, I know Posey, Belt, Longoria, I'm assuming they're putting their guys in good defensive positions. Yeah, what do we even call that?

Like a Ben don't break? Like, as long as you play your good game against the Rays and the Giants, you've got a chance to win. but if you have the one reliever blow it or the one defensive error or whatever, then it's over. Play a perfect game. You have to be absolutely perfect from the seventh inning on, unless you're up by five or more. Yeah, and you know what I like about these two teams or at least what I've seen?

Like, if they're like losing and maybe they're down by five or whatever, then they won't use their high leverage guys. They save that for opportune times. And I think throughout a season, if you approach the game that way, it could help you out now late September, October, saving those guys, keeping them in high leverage situations at all times, unless you really need to get someone in the game because maybe you've blown teams out for three straight

and you need to get these guys some innings. But yeah, like these two teams are, they're their top to bottom good you know from their roster to their to their coaching staff to their front offices like they're a shining examples of what organization should be along with the dodgers i think those raise giants dodgers right now are like i mean it may be houston in there as well maybe seattle now i don't know but those are the those are the teams the teams want to be like. But Giants have winning 25% of the games that they've been down in the eighth inning is

That's crazy. Crazy. It leads me to believe they haven't been down by a lot of running. Yeah, but still, I mean, that's just such comfort as a fan. Yeah. The raise are 22.9% of the time they've come back and won it. Third place is down to 16. It's true.

It's the Blue Jays. I mean, you get to fifth place and you're at 15%. It's a 10% drop-off from what the Giants are doing. Nuts. 10% of games. That adds up. Yeah, and we keep searching Jolly Olive project assignments. I think I just found another.

The Giants bullpen second in ERA, first in whip, first in walks per nine. They're 28th in K per nine. Which that's like a part of the kind of bullpen revolution. So do they just have weak contact kings down there? What the hell is going on? I don't know. Yeah, I mean, they're, they're, they just have a bunch of different looks. And when I watched Gabe do the bullpen game, I believe was on Sunday.

I think it was on Sunday. I thought he made the moves at the right times. And that was a knock on Gabe. Good managing. Philadelphia, my goodness. Good managing. It's not just him, though. It's not just him.

I don't know this for a fact, but I know their assistant pitching coach is J.P. Martinez, my friend. and is Andrew Bailey their pitching coach? Andrew Bailey, the old... Yeah, I mean, I looked in the dugout and I thought it was him. I guess I should know that I am the champion of the staff. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know.

It's an easy search. Yes. Yeah, yes. Really? Yeah. He pitched in 2017. He's their head pitching coach. No, different.

Gabe's different. What do you think about the Giants taking B.P. the way they do. Treve, I think Eno tweeted about how there's some Hub Hub about it. I think it's great, and I think more and more people are accepting. I mean, look, no

hitters like BP. Nobody likes BP, really. Like, the fans like BP. Every once in a while, it's nice to go waxing balls around, get outside, get loose a little bit. But BP isn't going to make you improve. Like, visually, that's what it's there for. You get

the visual. I think if teams went in and took batting practice the first day they got into a city, boom, you're good. You get the visual, you get the backdrop, and you go. But you know, you're lobbying balls at 40 miles an hour, it doesn't do anything for your swing except make you feel confident and, you know, maybe you see how the park plays a little bit. So defensively, it's nice to get out there for BP. But if you want to improve, if you want to get better, like they're throughout baseball. I mean, there's different techniques that are going on. And now, I love high-vilo machines. I love getting in there against a high-v-el-machine and just taking.

Get your-kick, slow everything down. They're doing that. They're doing breaking balls with these machines. And honestly, when I was playing, like, that stuff, nobody wanted to do that. Because it's hard. That's like you're actually practicing. You know, if you're going up there, you're going to get worn out by some machines sometimes. That fucking slider machine's going to wear you out.

That Vela machine's going to wear you out. but you are going to improve more than if you're just up there having some dude toss you the ball. Is there going to be a day when we're... Makes a lot of sense to me. When we're old men and our kids are watching baseball teams get ready with VLO machines and then they show a highlight of someone taking batting practice, how they just lob it and they're like, what was that? The way they do batting practice now feels like almost being in the on-deck circle

and swinging a wiffle ball bat for practice instead of a donut. Like you're supposed to make things hard. Even that's outdated. Like a donut doesn't even really help you. Well, who was it? Adama's used a donut upside down. The upside down donut I like to do because you did that. Yeah.

It does like they are their studies like you have to do a multiple different weights to increase your bat speed. And so like the on deck circle is strictly just for getting loose. And like that's even that's old school. Honestly, I was trying to speed up the game. I was trying to convince Braun to to. to get on there and like do some crunches like some core activation or something like that. Like I feel like that probably is the future.

It's just it's a get loose, get your body ready station. Maybe just line up with a pitcher. I think that's probably the number one thing. Like let's get eyes and get your, get your timing. I think I have to start swinging. I think I have to start swinging both ways

when I'm in the on deck circle when we play Blitzball. That's because I am a two way player now. So I got to keep my balance. It's popular to do that now. A lot of people do that because you know, you want to treat your obliques the same on both sides, keep it even.

So you're head of the curve there, Jim. We got a big game coming up this week. How's your leg? C. Rose wanted me to ask you that. How's your leg doing? I can walk normally. We played spike ball on the beach yesterday, and I actually, like, made a couple plays,

and I was shocked I didn't slightly, like, have anything. It's just very, very tight. I jumped over the spike ball net because Luke's fed me in front. Then I went behind my legs like Agassi. Is that the tennis player that always did that? It's a few now, but yeah. Or is it, or is it Roddick?

There's one that like, there's like, there's like YouTube compilations of him doing it constantly. And I thought when I did that, I was like, in the air, I was like, oh, fuck, my hammie's going to go again and didn't. So I guess I'm all right. All right. Let's see. All right.

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Deja vu all over again. I did it for talking Yanks earlier today. That could be it. I don't know how you want me to do. this. I'm going to ask you guys the same question? Are I just going to give my answer? That's up to you. You definitely let me know. Give us your thoughts. Give us your thoughts. We'll react. That's what we do. We do well. What I wanted to do is that now at this point in the season, we

kind of know who the teams are, who the big boys are. And I wanted to know my question was going to be what is your dream world series matchup? Like the best baseball that can be played the most thrilling matchup that you can think of now james kind of just said this is what's going to happen i don't think that's your most your dream matchup james yes i'd be wrong about that but my dream matchup and then if you guys want to to join in and talk about it uh go ahead but my dream matchup and apparently jake you referenced this some other show we do we record a lot episode 388 talking baseball. Dodgers

White socks for a lot of different reasons. One, I'll start off with the superficial stuff. Love the color combo. The palette will be beautiful. The Dodgers, what are those called in the City Connect uniforms really grew on me

when I saw them wear them in San Francisco. The hats are bad. The hats are bad, but the rest of it's kind of fun. Yeah, you're right. You're right. Los Goyers. I'm fine with Los Dodgers. That's okay. The hats, I agree. I just, that much blue. Dodger Blue is very iconic here in L.A. So when you see it like that much of it, it's got me going. I like it a lot. Those jerseys with the White Sox City Connect jerseys, which are widely considered

the best ones of the year, I think would be just like A plus viewing pleasure, stimulation for the eyes. I don't know if they'd let them do that in the World Series. so I like that. But then you start just going over the star power, the actual lineups, the roster construction of these two teams, and like pound for pound, this is like heavyweight, heavyweight matchup.

This is what I want to see. Do you guys want me to read off those lineups? Sure. Because, you know, everybody knows the Dodgers lineup. You got Trey Turner, Max Muncie, Mookie Betts, Justin Turner, Corey Seeger Will Smith

Chris Taylor, CT3 and belly That's a freaking Like belly's your whole He's the weak spot Belly is your weak spot And at any second He could just turn it on

And become the 2019 MVP of the National League But White Sox You go to them Tim Anderson Luis Robert Yon Moncada Jose Ibrahimot

Eloi Jimenez, Yasmani Grandel, teeters off a little bit at the end. Caesar Hernandez, good at bat, good switch hitter, gonna give you a quality of bat. Andrew Ron has been really good at V.H. Adam Engel, a five-tool kind of guy.

It's been really good for them. These are two absolute juggernaut lineups. I don't think they're two better lineups in baseball right now. Watching those guys go toe-to-to-to-to would be incredible. for everybody. Then you go to the pitching staffs.

What do we always say? You need top three dudes. You need three horses. And then you need to line up your bullpen the way it needs to be. Well, the Dodgers, we know who those guys are for them. Or actually, we don't. I mean, we know the top two.

We know Scherzer and Bueller are going to be there. Then you got your Ries. Kershaw just started the freaking rehab assignment today. Doncelain started another rehab assignment. If it ain't broke, I mean, if Kershaw gets back and looks like Clayton Kershaw, you kick your ears to the pen and you say let's do what we did last year babe 100% and then you go to the white socks and you got lanslin lance lynn and g leader are on the d i.l right now they'll be fine

you got lanslind lucas gledo carlos rodon you can kick dylan c's to the bullpen and we know all about their bullpen with hendricks uh kimbril bummer crochet and what and the copeck like these are just two juggernaut teams that like any time a player is on the field, especially during the postseason, you're going to be like, that's an elite player. And I don't think you can say that for most other teams. Like, I don't think there is another team that you can say that about. So to me, this would be by far the most ideal dream matchup to big markets. You get LA, you get Chicago, aesthetically pleasing uniforms, and then the star powers crazy. Can you imagine? Can you imagine? that swaggy, swaggy lineup of the White Sox in the World Series,

already feeling themselves because they won the Central, they win the D.S, then the C.S, and they're just, I would love to see it. And I think that is my dream matchup, and I'm really curious if you guys have any lean for your dream matchup. I think if you ask me this, and I'm in a room by myself, and I haven't heard anyone else's pitch,

I land at the same conclusion you did. So for the sake of the experiment or exercise, the sake of the exercise, I'll just not put the Dodgers there because the White Sox are my runaway in the AO. Obviously, as a Yankees fan, I'd like them, but the starting pitching, the bullpen and the flare of their players, of their studs,

and how, And then there's a part of me where like, you know, we don't need to grow baseball in L.A. anymore. But if you get that some kids in Chicago that now have heroes and now they have names because they're a huge playoff run and like that part of Chicago. Those guys would like own that moment so much because they are so fun. Yeah. So hard for me to not say the White Sox. Astros have already done it. It would obviously make great drama and television

if it's Astros Dodgers. If it's not Astros Dodgers, then I don't... I'm not interested in watching the Astros again. Even though I do love Framber and a lot of those guys and what Dusty's doing. Then the other option for me in the NL is the Brewers because I think the environment

after the bucks winning and then closing that roof, I think you tune in for games and you're going to be blown away by the noise. And I'm a little biased because we just went there and we saw the Bud's Sealy experiment and they had old footage from when that city and that town was rocking. I also think you have enough star appeal

and then you're going to build so many stars in those starting pitchers, in those relievers. And then, you know, in some of the fun guys like Adamas or even... I mean, obviously, Yel is a star. Even who was I thinking of Garcia, Wong, low canes fun. So I think I'm landing, White Sox Brewers. And hopefully the coasts just care enough to tune in. And then, you know, you get some Midwest baseball.

Also aesthetically pleasing. Those two uniforms would go well together. And the proximity of the two cities is. Yeah. It would be cool. Get the RV back out. Yeah, I think you said it the best, Trev. It's a heavyweight fight if it's Dodgers White Sox.

And those big boys on the mound every game. I mean, if the series went seven games, I think six out of seven, you'd have elite pitching matchups, which you can't really say around the league. But the only thing that I think I would just add a little salt and peppa on the conversation is the other side of the playoffs that, you know, I think the position roster, everyone gets used. Like, look at Brett Phillips coming into that game. Like, I think your depth on that side gets tested more than you're pitching. Like, your last guy in the bullpen,

he could not be impactful in the series at all. Even your last three guys in the pen, they could really not factor in. So that's where I do think, You guys are right. Everything you said. I want to see when October gets here, and boy, what a time it's going to be. Beach Week in our rearview. I mean, straight hoodies, you know.

Oh, I can't wait for hoodie. It's Jamalama Ding Dong season in October. Yeah, and my baby's now scheduled to come a week earlier. Maybe on the way. Pop that bad boy out. I might be out on the playoffs. So we'll figure that. We'll figure that out as we go.

Just stirring the pot, strictly, at the end of this episode. Whatever team finds a little magic, like, could we not make, could we not make, if they start to fully click and you go playoff rosters, Phillies are the Padres, man.

I know they are clearly not on the tiers of the teams we just talked about. But if you're going rotation, if Musgrove, Snell, and Darvish have clicked, if Wheeler, Nola, Gibby have clicked, and is swagger, They're Urias.

Those teams have lineups. They are not on the same tier. But that's where the baseball playoff magic gets really fun that, like, it would be, that would be a good time. Yeah. That was, I think that was everyone's preseason, like, give us your dream scenario. It would be White Sox, Pontres. Like, that's, that was the video game. Yeah.

That was the video game. Yeah. That's like stars. like we're going to attract the young audience because like of how these dudes play the game and I think that's that will be great for baseball as well so I like the Padres pick in their Chicago Padres. Podgers would be great it's funny that we're all picking Chicago would be the funnest to watch in the playoffs and really I know we we just we talk about it but we sort of just glanced by them because they've had zero competition like I'm so excited for

then to get into the playoffs and just see can they flip that switch? No one confused this with me saying the White Sox are my favorite. I mean, the Raes are in the World Series, but they'd be the most fun. The Rays have been in the World Series. They don't know how to build stars,

even if they have them. Houston's been around. Everyone knows those players. So the White Sox is new star building, new growth. And I liked the way they construct their lineup and they use their starters and relievers. Well, let's see what happens.

I can't wait, man. It's here. Kind of. It's here. A little close. You guys still got a lot of sweat. You guys got a lot of sweat to go through, man. I'm excited for you.

No joke. Yeah, it's too hot. This is Tumbleweed Tuesday in town, though, Trev. Whole town. Everyone leaves. Just us. Like that. Yeah.

We're actually going to go to lunch. That's a little company outing. So that ends the show. It sounds really nice. It's the best episode ever. I'm going to go to. you a sushi for lunch. Send a pick of your credit card, Trev.

I'll tell the gals you snagged it. Okay. Everyone leave in the comments. Trevor, what you think Trevor's credit card is? Yes, Trevor's credit card number. And then also let us know out of 10 how good this episode was only allowed to write eight or higher.

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You can't just say a 10 out of 10. Okay. Because then you lessen, why would anyone listen to more? I won't ever beat it. If everyone's a 10, though. Jake did so much research. I build up every episode. I was Google sheet, copy paste, copy paste, sort Google sheet,

color coded over here. I use my notes app on my MacBook. It's hell yeah. It's big. It's good stuff by all of us. That's the episode. and we appreciate you dearly and we hope you have a fantastic day and goodbye.