Talkin' Baseball (MLB Podcast) - 407 | Astros & Braves Advance + Dodgers Force Game 5
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Hello and welcome to Talkin' Baseball. Your ALCS is set. Strow's Sox and NL. We're going to Game 5. Let's talk about it. Treves! Hello and welcome back to Talking Baseball. Myself, Jake Strombole, Trevor Plough. John Boy will be joining us mid-show. He's running, making his way downtown. House is past and he's home back.
Do you know, do.
Trevor, Baby D.
We're live from the Draft King studio.
Chat is kicking this morning.
Baseball is hot in the streets.
The ALCS is set.
The Braves win in four against the Brew Crew as they await the Giants Dodgers winner tomorrow night.
Trevor Plouffe in his most stylish hat, his Braves hat.
What do you?
Is that a city connect?
Is that a Trevor Plouffe?
What is that?
You know we don't usually get free ads.
My guy, Carlamar.
Everyone always asks me about my hats.
That's where I get my hats.
He's my guy.
I saw a few of my L.A. Kobe hats at the Dodgers game last night.
Wow.
So he's doing well.
Let me tell you something.
Yes.
Baseball is so hot right now.
There's so many things going on.
Storylines.
People are going home.
Teams are getting vacation plans ready.
Other teams are like, dang,
we got more baseball.
and then Los Hibador
Hyantes
and Los Angeles
Doyers
Game five
Yeah
It's big time man
I'm excited
Let's talk about some of this stuff
How are you doing it by the way
Like you look great
Brewer's shirt
Not a great look on you today
Because they're going home
But you make it look good
Yeah I mean we got
You and the winner's hat
The Braves myself
And the Loser's shirt
Our Brew crew
man, it just seemed like that was going for five, kept hammering at home.
I guess we kept wishing it in the Braves, man.
We are cronpod, so there's a game before that.
But I'm doing well.
I'm doing well.
You know, first day without a baseball game tonight.
So might get in my six hours of sleep tonight.
But yeah, man, this first game, because we're going to cronpot it.
I know we already, we were gossiping pre-show about your AL Central a little bit.
There's a little bit of a combo there.
Not as much as a combo as you want.
But I'm doing well, man.
We're here.
Oh my gosh.
This is like we train all season to cover the playoffs like we do.
And here we are.
We get to talk with a chat popped out.
I'm telling you, man.
The vibe last night at the Dodger game was excellent.
You were in the building.
I was in the building.
Not much of a game, to be honest.
There was a few times where the Giants kind of maybe had a chance to make it a game.
They didn't.
When you start to see the horses, the Dodgers trod out there in the bullpen.
It didn't look like the Giants really put forth their best effort last night.
But we'll talk about that later.
But a lot of John Boy Media fans of the Dodger game last night.
A lot of love and love.
the stands. Pretty cool. Yeah, so I want to give a shout out to one of them in particular because
she told me she'd be listening at school, which is, we think you're supposed to do that.
Don't listen to your teacher, listen to us, obviously. Bianca, what's up?
What's up, B, what's up, Jake?
What's up, B, we're your teachers now? Teacher BPD, teacher Trev, teacher Jake.
And yeah, yeah, a little housekeeping before we get into the three games. I think we're
going to not record tomorrow at 1130 because there won't be a game.
We will be live streaming.
We'll be live for NLDS, Game 5, Dodgers, Heantez.
And then Friday morning, 1130, 12, we're going to recap the game and then we'll do a full
ALCS, NLCS preview.
We'll talk about the pitching matchups, who's lined up, what we like, what we don't
like we got our research and development team on it.
So for now, I think it's time to get into the games, Trev.
You've got your finger up.
Also, I promised Ryan a shout-out.
So Ryan, sup player.
Dude, I was just shaking hands, kissing babies.
You know who else?
I'm going to tell you who else I saw.
Okay.
Saw Hunter Green.
Yeah.
One of the biggest prospects in baseball.
He was behind home plate as well.
he DM me, he said, look to your left.
I look to my left, and there's a massive human being,
who I know is Hunter Green.
So we get to chop it up a little bit.
He kind of gave me his offseason plans.
He should be in the rotation for the Reds next year.
A lot of people, me and Magic Johnson chopping that,
but, you know, that's for another day.
Who on the field waved to you last night?
Did, you know, nobody during the game.
Yeah, I was screaming so loud for long ago.
People were...
Damn.
It was the only person I was cheering for.
And, you know, I'm in the middle of Dodger Blue.
I'm wearing my bright red Johnboy hoodie.
And I'm just going, Longo, my captain, I love you.
People thought I was crazy.
And then he didn't exactly have great at bats last night.
But it's all right.
Yeah, I don't, we'll talk about it.
I don't think the Giants really cared last night.
They didn't.
They put forth an effort.
We'll talk about that.
We are CronPod, which has us.
We'll start out with the Astros and the White Sox.
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Are you burning today?
Yeah, I'll burn a little bit.
Oh.
I'm smoking purple flour.
It's burning my chest.
Jake, any market's that burn?
Holy smokes.
It's the fourth game of this series in the Southside.
White Sox trying to hold on to life as they try to ride on with Rodon.
Carlos. Let's see where the fastball's sitting and he was hunking heat early. He had it. Good news for the
White Sox as they took on Snapdragon Trev's guy Lance McCullors Jr. How about Gavin Ben Sheets?
Another guy that had a curveball. He takes the curveball 408 to center. It's 1-0 White Sox.
They needed that. I'll tell you what they didn't need, Trev.
Carlos Correa in a big moment.
You already know what happened.
Doubles to left, two run scores.
When Maldonado punches you, it's hurt.
That's a thick boy.
Breggie Smalls, Brantley, two times.
Jose Altuve.
Jose Altuve.
Houston went on to score the next 10 runs.
White Sox, get eliminated at home.
They score on Rodon.
They score on Copac.
They score on Tepara,
Kimbril, Hendricks.
Meanwhile, the Astros bullpen.
Yimmie Garcia.
Maiton, Stanick, Graveman, and Presley.
Shut them down.
I don't know, Tepera.
I don't think they're stealing much from you
except this series.
Astros take the series 3-1
as they take game 4-10-1 final.
Snap for me.
My goodness.
You are just something else.
man.
This was a beat down, Jake.
It really was, man.
There's nothing else you can say.
This series was a complete, utter beatdown.
And I'm actually happy the White Sox got that first game at home.
The place was rocking and they got the victory so that they got, at least they got a little bit of something.
But other than that, man.
You mentioned it and everybody knew it.
Carlos Craig comes up.
Was it Bases Juiced?
Yeah.
Every freaking person.
knew in that stadium what was going to happen.
Every single person, he's developed that.
That's not overnight.
The reason people think that is because of how damn good the guy is in the postseason.
And that lineup, they just don't quit, man.
I mean, when they, I hate using this reference.
I feel like I do it all the time.
When they smell blood in the water, they go get it.
They're sharks.
They don't stop.
They don't stop.
They're the bad.
People are scared of them, and I think that is why people still hate so much and say, oh, they're cheating, they're cheating.
Because they're a little bit scared of them.
Like, these guys are actually good baseball players who cheated.
They're not just like some scrubs who cheated and got good.
Like, these guys were already good.
That's actually what makes it a little bit more disappointing.
But, man, oh, man, you're talking straight up baseball teams right now.
We have to see what happens with McCullers here, but they're going to be tough to beat.
Yeah, and it's, you know, my brain starts wanting to jump big picture stuff,
and not to give us too much of a pat on the bat back.
We all had the Astros in the series.
They're the favorites in the A.L.
And it just never felt like that all year with all the baseball conversations that happened.
And then, yeah, man, I mean, they kind of got ran over.
And you're right.
I mean, the Astros are, the Astros are now the back.
guy in the movie, but in the best way.
Like, they don't, you know, it's not an Austin power scenes where they leave the backdoor
open and you can escape.
Like, they just put their foot on your throat and, like, Tepara, what is you doing, baby?
Like, I don't piss them off.
Like, don't, just don't do that.
It's never worked for anyone.
So, yeah, I mean, they rolled over him in this game.
Rodon, he was emptying the tank.
I think his first inning fastball was sitting like 97 and then second inning.
It was down to 94.
So a long year, an awesome year for him coming off shoulder injury.
It looked like he was kind of running out of steam.
He tried to give it his all.
And hey, I think he was a pitch away against Correa, but were you really?
You know?
And then they go to Kopec right after that.
So there's discussion should they have gone to him earlier.
But he gets hit the next inning.
Like these Astros are just a.
different breed, man. McCullors, you know, 4.4 innings, one-earned run. And in these playoffs is
basically a good start. That's almost a quality start at this point, the way teams use their
bullpen. And shout out to the Stro's bullpen. Like, we saw, we saw the night before this
Red Sox raise. You know, the raise came back from what, down 5-0, 5-1. There was never hope.
There was just never hope, man. They didn't score after the second inning on the sheets.
home run.
Astros dominated.
They had 19 at bats with runners in scoring position.
The White Sox had two.
Like, this was just a domination.
And at BPD, I don't want to send you down too much of a wormhole because we'll also
have all offseason to discuss this.
But if you're the White Sox, it's going to be a really interesting offseason because I don't
know, I don't know who you're losing.
You're only losing.
Rodon is not.
He's not on contract.
I'm not sure.
Lynn is back.
Yeah.
They have everyone.
They don't need to do it much in the off season.
We talked about this earlier today.
They just ran into a buzzsaw.
Maybe they need the other teams to retool in the division and that narrative can get taken care of.
Like the Central wasn't competitive.
So maybe, you know, they just didn't have to fight for much.
I don't like that narrative, but it sure came true, I guess, in the playoffs.
Yeah, and I...
Maybe it did, maybe it didn't.
I don't know, man.
But the team itself is loaded, Jake.
That's what I'm saying.
Like, when you say they ran into a buzzsaw,
we should also be saying the Astros ran into a bus saw.
Like, this team is stacked.
I think something that really hurt them is Lance Lynn,
who's, you know, best pitcher on the squad this year,
going to be top three, top five for Cy Young votes.
The Astros own him.
So basically, you go into this playoff series
and instead of having your 1-1, your guy you lean on,
your Avaldi, your whoever it is,
it almost turned Lance Lynn irrelevant in this series,
which I think kind of put it on its head a little bit,
with Rodan out of gas.
It's just tough.
If you're the White Sox,
you know, that team on paper is stacked head to toe.
And you wonder what it looks like next year.
Are you just hoping on young guys to develop?
Are you hoping iron sharpens iron a little bit more?
Because I don't know.
I know these Astros, they might be losing Correa.
We'll see if they empty the bag for them.
But, like, the Astros next year will be the bad man again.
Like, they're going to be there.
Other teams are going to get better.
So on paper, this White Sox team, and we kind of said it all year, they're stacked.
So, yeah, it's going to be really interesting.
I wonder if they continue to try to make jugular moves,
if they add another bat.
Do you add another big time SP?
Or do you say like, hey, we just saw with the Braves,
like playoff experience matters.
And this is, you know,
they just went through another battle.
They lost,
but maybe it makes them better for next year.
Yeah, I think they have a few things to address.
I think a starter would help.
I think they should bring Rodon back.
I don't know how much he's going to cost.
I mean, they had him for $3 million this year.
Obviously, that price going up.
Second base as a whole,
but like you said, this team has a really, really good team.
And I disagree with you.
I think if Correa is not back with the Astros, then things are much different.
I think there's, I think he holds a lot of that competitiveness for the Astros in his pocket.
So we'll see, man.
I don't know.
I might be eating my words on that statement, but it seems to me like they rally around him.
Yeah.
Well, they still have them for now.
and by the way, you know, they were the favorites in the AL coming into this playoffs.
They're the favorites over the Red Sox.
We'll, again, we'll fully preview that series on Friday.
But yeah, I mean, you know, we love talking about players earning the bag.
Carlos Correa, he's got all the other numbers.
If they go on another goddamn World Series run, I mean, the shortstop.
I know a lot of you probably don't like him.
He goes WWE and he talks at talk, but he walks the walk.
Um, this freaking team.
Yeah, man.
Jesus, dude.
You know, and like, you know, you just sprinkle in a Yoron Alvarez out of nowhere.
Yeah.
You know, top five hitter in the game, in my opinion.
I mean, I say that, but I don't really believe that.
He's close, though.
Yeah.
Top 10 hitter in the game.
And we talk about the, uh, I talked about the Red Sox and how good their hitting was in their series.
Um, all of their big names except Yule,
Grielle hit. Altuve had a 625 slugging, 476 on base. Brantley, 368 he hit in that series.
Bregman 444 on base. Your Don, 529 on base. Correa 529 on base. So like,
they don't stop, baby. Kyle Tucker with the 706 slug. So yeah, man.
Abraham Lincoln. That's honest Abe. They just don't stop. Man.
At the Astros Red Sox series, and I know we haven't had a lot of time to think about it,
and we don't want to spoil some of our thoughts, but those bats are going to be so fun to watch on both sides.
I know we love traditional playoff baseball, but get your overs ready, man.
Because I think every dude on the field is going to be able to hit.
Ooh, that's fun.
Stop previewing.
I know.
I know.
I got excited.
Listen to this, though, Jake.
Yeah.
six runs, nine runs, six runs, ten runs.
That's how you do it.
Yeah, man.
Runs or runs.
We heard that from an executive.
Analytics.
Yeah, really interesting.
Good for the Astros.
They talk.
They walk.
They've got the Red Sox waiting for them.
White Sox.
Interesting off season.
Dusty has a plan.
Dusty versus Cora.
That's going to be fun.
people that chat were saying
Copac, crochet, possibly
in the rotation next year
which is
I mean the White Sox have
I mean they're going to be the AO Central favorites
Yeah
Their team is pretty much completely back
So you know
It's tough for White Sox fans right now
Because you went in
You knew you were going to be in the playoffs for how long
For like two months, three months
You knew you're going to be in the playoffs
And then it kind of just came to an abrupt stop
but I'm happy they got that one game
because I was pretty cool to see all those White Sox fans going nuts.
Yeah, and I guess though, well, we can say it for another time.
It feels like they could add one more Impact bat,
but this is how beautiful baseball is.
I mean, next year.
Impact bat, these guys are crazy.
They have a great line of them.
Well, that's what I'm saying.
Like, next year maybe Luis Robare just is the Impact Bat.
Like, he could be this year's Vladimir.
Like, there's going to be, unfortunately for them,
there's a lot of time to have those conversations.
Astros advance.
The bad man moves on, which leaves us with some NL baseball, Trev.
Yes.
The Braves trying to finish off the brew crew at home.
And then your Dodgers Giants game later that night you were at.
We'll get your deep dives on screaming at Evan Longoria in a little bit.
Should we do Brewers Braves?
Ready for it?
I think so.
Trev's ready.
I'm ready.
Treves ready, we're ready.
Jake, on your mark.
Get set.
Burn.
The Braves trying to close it out at home and salt away a victory with Charlie Morton, the saltman,
snapping sliders across the plate.
While the Brewers go Lauer power, Eric Lauer to start in a must-win game for the crew.
These hitters weren't it.
We're scoreless through the first four, just like college.
But Omar Narvaez, he slaps a single the opposite way.
Avesel Garcia scores.
It's one-nothing crew.
Make it two.
Low Cane.
Mm-hmm.
Two-nothing Brewers, they needed that.
In the fourth, pinch hitter Orlando Arcia,
we're getting a pitching change to Hunter Strickland.
Here comes Trev's guy.
Eddie.
Cat scratch fever.
Rosario with the two RBI single to tie it up at twos.
But then it's time to get rowdy.
Another rowdy to Les.
Moondog, 448 to center.
What fortitude by the Brewers to make it fortitude?
In the fifth, there's those pearls again.
Jock Peterson with the RBI ground out.
to three and then darn know what I'm saying Travis darn no it's four to four after five it's
stay that way into the eighth here's Hayter this is who the Brewers want but it's who the
Braves want Frederick Freddie goes four twenty eight to left center off of Hayter ninth
inning Will Smith oh boy oh no he gets
out of it with the save. Morton, Jesse Chavez,
Yanoa, Minter, Luke Jackson, Matzick, and Will Smith combined for the Braves.
They take game four, five to four, and the Brewer's season.
Oh, man, Freddie Freeman in that slider.
Good job, Atlanta.
Treves Braves move on.
There's so much to talk about in this game.
The first thing I want to mention right away.
Yes.
jock peterson
called himself a bad bitch
yeah
the pearls on
yeah
hits bombs right
he hustles
he hustles down
beats out the double play
they score the run
I like that
that's what stood out to me
get darned up there
I think he's a little shooter
through the three hole there
doesn't happen
if jock doesn't hustle
yeah
uh yeah a lot of
jock
a lot of talk about
KK and jock
and the ex-dod
of this playoff so far.
Man.
So Charlie Martin out there on short rest.
He throws BBD's 69 pitches.
Nice.
Nice.
3.1. Braves bullpen does enough.
I mean, you know is the only one that gets touched up.
And then, yeah, our guy Ashby, which Ashby and Hader,
these were two guys that were supposed to be the Brewer's weapons
kind of going into this playoffs.
A lot of people are circling the Devin Williams stuff, which sucks and we've talked about.
And, you know, I don't even necessarily know about pitching-wise.
But there's definitely something ju-ju-wise there that can't be measured, that losing that guy.
I would say pitching-wise, too.
Yeah, pitching-wise, it would have been nice to have them.
It would have been nice to have them.
I'll echo some of Jimmy's thoughts in this.
The hitting wasn't super impressive throughout this series.
have to give love to the pitchers. I mean, when you talk about, when you talk about a lot of the starting
pitchers, I mean, Morton, Fried, uh, Woodruff, Burns, those guys, Freddie P, like, they're, Ion,
Andersen, there is a lot of good starting pitching. Not a ton of relievers that kind of jumped off
and had the Doval effect, if we want to call it that, but a lot of guys that did enough. Um,
but the Brewers bats this series, I mean, Locaine had two hits.
Nobody else did.
Rowdy Telez had the two homers for the Brewers this series.
No one else ding-donged.
And yeah, I think if you say something,
if you had told Brewers fans that, like, hey,
Yelly's not going to have it this series.
Colton Wong's not going to have it this series,
and Rowdy Telez is going to hit your only homers.
That's just that ain't a formula for winning.
And you know, you mentioned the bullpen of the bridge.
I mean, a lot of people that I know that follow the Braves are real shaky on some of these guys, but they showed up, dude. Jesse Chavez, my guy. Asked me what I've done with that dude before. Zero ERA in the series. Minter, no runs. Luke Jackson, no runs. Tyler Manzig, no runs. And then Will Smith. How many saves?
Enough to party. So they came and got the job done. A lot of the stories of starters, you know, Max and Charlie.
an eye on, but you got to give credit to these guys, dude.
A couple timely hits.
We knew this series was going to be low scoring.
I mean, these are good pitching staffs right here.
They are.
My Braves do enough.
My Braves do enough.
They are.
And there's something that should be said, you know,
AJ Mint or Luke Jackson, Matzick,
these are dudes that have pitched in big games now,
Will Smith.
So there's definitely no fear of the moment.
You know, there's, A,
there's some bad base running on both sides
throughout this series.
Don't like that at all.
The barves.
But man, they move on.
Trev, I know you said it the other day.
It just, it sucks so much that Ronnie's not a part of this.
Because I think there could be full-blown Braves Mania
if Ronald was a part of it.
It's going to be tough.
Whoever comes out of those West Coast games is going to be the big favorite.
But, man.
How about, you know, Adam Duvall, two for tree?
He's moving all over the outfield, playing center field when they need it.
Young Thick is a stud.
Like, I know we enjoy him because he's young thick Austin Riley,
and we've gotten to talk about him a lot.
But, like, we almost need to treat him with a certain level of respect.
I know I was a lot of my Boston friends say I don't respect Devers enough,
which, by the way, I do.
My conversation about third base is how good third base is.
and Austin Riley actually kind of trap them in some of the discussions
because he had as good of a year of devors
and some places rates out well defensively.
The point is they're both studs.
And the Braves lost Solair below before this game.
So in kind of a funny, weird Brave season
where they never fully had the go switch,
they had a lot happen, here they are in the CS,
they've got three starting pitchers they really like,
there's a formula.
The Solar Air thing's tough
I don't know how long he has to be out
Like what's the protocol on that
I mean I can look into it
You know I mean
We I need to look into
Yeah you are the people source
Snaps for Jakey boy give us
How did it happen?
Tell us how it happens
Well
The DM
When a guy and a girl love each other very much
Um
That's when the magic happens
I hate you right now
Did you get
No one even gave you credit
I'm
There's a lot of people attacking us right now
And I don't like it
Yeah
It gets weird because, I mean, that's not assigning.
You want to kind of pound your chest and say you had it first.
Like, Solair having COVID, you know, I do, anytime I do the people source, I do the J.R. Smith three-pointer reply gift that I got it right.
And it was mostly kids who were trying to be dumb and look for interaction on the internet, but they're like, you're really celebrating this?
And it's like, no, I'm celebrating getting it before the Big Jays, which tough day for Big Jays.
your guy's Chefty, Trev.
But, yeah, that's, uh, well.
What happened to Chefty?
He, uh, he did something that's not journalistically.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
He sent the story over for approval.
Yeah, had them check it out or something like that.
So, uh, tough day, tough day for the Jays.
Braves will advance, so we'll get to talk about them more.
There was the weird pop-up play so ridiculous that that can't be reviewed.
Dude, what is you doing baseball?
What do you got out there, Trev?
You guys let me know if you can hear this.
We can't.
I'm impressed.
You can't.
Dude, it's been a minute.
Trev told us right before the episode, his face dropped, and he's like,
the grounds crew is here today.
And, dude, that used to be a talking baseball, like almost every other app.
And it's been a minute.
So it kind of gave me the feels.
I kind of liked it.
It's Wednesday.
They're here.
know, taking care of this luscious yard of mine that supports all this natural wildbikes.
Because we do our Wednesday up on Tuesday during the year. That's why it's been a minute.
Okay. It's been a minute. Let's see. Minimum of five days for Soler. I'm ex-I want to see if Pachet can make a difference.
That's been your guy. In the short time that he might be up, I don't know how that happens. Can they just automatically bring him back and send Paché out of there if it's like in the middle of a C-Saint?
I don't know how that works.
I would guess so.
I'm sure they have some COVID regulations on it.
I would assume you can't like,
there might have, I think there's some league approval stuff.
Like, if they burnt out a pitcher for 100 pitches,
they couldn't do Solair for them just because that guy's out.
I'm pretty sure they have something like that in place.
But yeah, we'll see if there's any ripple effect to that.
I don't know.
I mean, I kind of want to keep it Brewer-focused
because we're going to have more time to talk about the Braves as they advance.
And shout out to Snickker, man.
He burnt Arcia to get Eddie Rosario the bat with runners-in-scoring position,
and you make that trade 10 out of 10 times.
But a lot of managers get scared to just burn a body
because it's a playoff game.
And especially this was a 4-4 game late.
If Freddie doesn't go ding-dong,
if you start talking extra innings and bodies,
then the script can get flipped on you.
But I said coming into this, I thought the Brewers were a lot deeper.
The Braves pinch hitters between Jock and Edda Rosario
basically provided more offense than the whole Brewers lineup.
So they deserve some love over there.
And then, yeah, man, if you're the brew crew, I don't know.
A lot of those offensive numbers are tough.
Do you circle Yelly?
I know that's our guy, but he had some.
tough A-Bs, man.
Yeah, I think he's
going to work this off season to maybe
retool some things.
But yeah, they need him to be
the offensive force
in their lineup. And we
talked about this a little bit earlier today. Like, what do
they need? I think they need hitters. They need
bats, dude. Yeah. They were middle
of the pack and run scored. Middle in the
pack and run scored per game. Like
they have the pitching.
We get that. They can do that.
Go get some hitters to
strike some fear into these other
lineups. Yeah. No,
I think there's definitely some
parallels
between Braves,
Brewers, and Sox-Rays,
right? Like the Braves
had some experience,
had the bats.
Yeah, man,
very interested to see how the rest of this
postseason goes, because, you know, the
tail is as old as time. You can't have enough
pitching come off October. Pitching
controls the game. But also,
So, I mean, we're seeing how the big bats have dictated series so far between the Astros and the Sox.
The Braves, Freddie Freeman with the big homer off of Hater.
That's insane.
Riley had a good series.
Jock had a good series.
Yeah, and the Brewers, you know, they always have the arms.
They always play really good defense.
Ureus showed out yesterday.
He had a couple huge plays at third base.
did some tough ones
some really tough plays that kept the game
in important moments
in very important moments
damn
you know many runs
the Brewer scored in this series
how many runs
six that ain't enough
that's not enough
I mean I get it sometimes that happens
and the Braves pitched and you got to tip your cap
but like that ain't going to get it done
man so I think that's going to be a focal point for them
bringing in somebody.
They got the money to do it.
Yeah, we...
They don't usually operate that way,
but I think maybe with the staff they'd assembled,
like it's time to go out and go get somebody.
Well, and that's the...
We talked about it before the season.
We know the Brewers went for Justin Turner.
We heard that.
That was reported.
And, you know, we heard some trade deadline stuff.
It really feels like,
A, Yelly was.
wasn't there. And if he was, you know, let's not lie, these were close games. If Yeli looks like Yeli,
I think this series goes back to Milwaukee, you've got Corbyn Burns on the bump, you know,
same thing we said about Tampa. Like, you're going back to the Trop and you'd have your rested team.
We're not saying that because the other teams took it at home. But yeah, you'd really like, if Yelie gets
back to form and they could pair him with like a Ritey masher, maybe someone to protect Yeli,
because no shots fired at Avicel Garcia, who, by the way, he didn't have a great series.
But he's like an all-around guy.
He plays better defense than you think.
He's a weapon.
Someone that could really protect Yelly.
I know the analytics don't believe that, but us baseball guys do, Trev.
We do.
We got to start talking about Freddie Freeman's Homer, though.
Hold on one sec.
No, you do.
You go.
Okay, I'll go.
Trev's going to deal with something.
If your hater...
First freaking pitch, Jake.
How do you do that?
So we thought, and the broadcast said it was a change-up.
I'm seeing it listed as a slider.
It's a slider.
Because, yeah, I mean, I know that's haters kind of bread and butter.
Man, that's just so tough because he embarrassed Dansby.
I don't know if you saw the at-bat before.
He went back-to-back sliders in the dirt, not even close,
and Danesby just waved at him.
So then he goes first pitch slider right down the middle to Freddie.
And I mean, I think the juice ball years recently have,
and you've talked about this a lot,
like opposite field, dead center type power is different.
Like that's thick boy trev power.
Freddie, man, 428 to left center off of Hayter,
one of the toughest lefties in the game.
I mean, that's speaking of a...
I think he's pumped him twice now.
of a guy earning a couple more shekels
adding add in another
year to the contract maybe
Freddie man
he told he told whoever
who was covering that game
whoever was broadcasting the game
I guess they talked to him and Friday says I'm gonna
I'm gonna work left field today
and I think he ended up hitting three balls to left field
including the go ahead
home run like he's that's the kind of hitter he is
like he can call his shots
his swing is so pure
he can sit on a slider first pitch against a nasty lefty and take it the other way pay the man his money i said
this morning got an off day today sign him up now yeah yeah it's uh it's it's kind of a lame phrase but
it is one of my favorite things to think about is the if there was a league above major league
baseball who would be in it and freddie freeman's one of those guys um and so is josh hater that's
kind of the sick part.
And that's where if you're the Brewers, like you're sitting there saying, you know,
tied game with Hayder, you kind of like your chances.
That's kind of where the Brewers live, but he gets, he got beat by a dude.
So, man, another interesting offseason for the Brewers is they're going to retool that.
I think Wong's contract is going to be up.
I think Avicales up.
So they're going to be interesting.
We'll see if we're talking about.
Ashby next year as kind of the next Freddie Peralta.
He looks like he's got all the makeup for that.
And yeah, Trev, we were laughing a lot on the live stream.
Ashby's nose.
Do you remember the guy's name, BBD?
I can look it up quick.
Oh, Ken.
Oh, Ken actor.
What's his name?
Ken.
That's not coming up.
I'll have it in a second.
BPD's going to find it.
He's a funny, Ken Marino.
He's been in a lot of funny stuff.
Him and Aaron Ashby have the same nose.
You know I'm sensitive to nose, Todd.
I know you are.
People have made fun of my nose all my childhood.
It was just really a moment because Aaron Ashby has Ken Marino's nose.
I was watching
So I was watching the Braves game
On my phone on the way down to the Dodger game
So I couldn't really see how Ashby looked
I saw the end results
Like what was
What was going on there?
Over the plate too much
Just kind of
Yeah I'm trying to
Relyve it
I mean he just
He got into trouble and couldn't get out
I mean
Seeing him like he was getting behind
And he was just kind of serving
him up over the plate trying to get back into counts
and you just can't do that.
Yeah, I mean, that doesn't work.
So let's see.
Ashby gets Freddie.
Alby's infield single.
So, I mean, that's tough.
Hits Duval with the pitch.
So, I mean, that's one of those.
Oh, yeah.
O2.
That was 02 changeup or something.
So that's where baseball's tough, man.
You strike out Freddie Freeman, who won this game.
Ozzie Alby's infield single
There's not much you can do with that
On a 3-2 pitch
He walked Young Thick on four pitches
So that's kind of a sign of something going on
And then hits Duval
Oh two
So yeah, all they have to do
Jock rounds out
And then Travis Darnow
Who's like, that guy's good
That guy's good
He sat on a slider
drove it to right field.
Yeah.
Fun year for the brew crew.
I mean, they had all the makings.
They had the top three.
They had some of the bullpen stuff.
Five game series are brutal.
Like, the five game series are even putting the one game series
in more of a crazy light for me.
Because, like, any baseball team can lose a five game set.
You really can't.
Five games is fast.
It's fast.
God.
And even the way they do it where it's 2-2-1,
like if you're the,
you're almost want to not have home field advantage.
Like go split the games right away and then get home field advantage.
It's like so easy.
It's a really,
it's a really interesting conversation because, yeah, you take that.
And that's what I think we're talking about in the Giants game for a minute.
Like they're,
I think the Giants mission was just get it back to San Fran for game five,
which these other series they couldn't do.
Especially when you're playing it somewhere like,
Enway, that makes it really tough.
Good for the Braves.
A really weird year.
I know, Trev, you're big on Braves' Twitter and Yankees' Twitter for different reasons.
Both of those fan bases kind of had similar, regular seasons.
It didn't feel great.
I guess for the Braves, it felt better late because they were in first place of their division.
But compared to previous Braves team, this team never had it.
Foolish got me good.
he posted a video of the Brave season
and it was a dog dragging their hind legs
like they couldn't use them.
They were just dragging their legs through the mud
and then the dog stands up and starts running around
and he said the 2021 Braves and yeah,
that's kind of what it's looked like.
Yeah, I had a chance to abandon the Braves mid-season
when Akunia got hurt and Ozuña got arrested.
I said, I'm going to stick with these guys and it's paid off.
They needed that show of support.
I think a lot of Braves fans might be,
you know, thanking me.
If you're a Braves fan, reach out to Trevor Plouffe.
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J.K.A. Market said, burn.
The Dodgers are trying to stave off
elimination with Walker, Texas
Bueller on the mound for them against
disco. As San Fran looks
to have a little dance party against
Anthony and the Giants,
Bottom one, Shrey, Tina Turner.
M. RBI double.
It is 1-0.
Make it 2 as Chris Taylor gang with the sack fly.
Mookie says double your pleasure, double your fun with the two-run homer after Walker Bueller,
the infield single off of the other pitcher.
It's 4-0.
Hey, the Giants Show, Little Fight Treves guy Darren Ruff with the RBI ground.
out four to one. Dodgers answer right back with mooky bets. I say poppy.
5-1, 5-2. Chris Bryant in the 8th, but again, the Dodgers punch back. Will Smith gets
jiggy on a two-run homer. Seven to Dodgers. That would be your final as they go Bueller to Joe
Kelly's Fight Club, Brewster, Vesia, Trinan, and Bickford in the 9th.
Dodgers take game four.
The series is tied at twos,
and we are going win or go home in the Yay Area on Thursday night.
Boogety, boogety, boogety, boogety, dodgers win, 7-25.
Trev, you were in the building.
In the building.
Hunter Green sightings.
Hunter Green sightings.
In the DMs.
Jalen Ramsey.
This is actually, let me talk about Jailen Ramsey.
Jalen Ramsey lives down the street for me.
When he moved in, so before I met Matthew, my friend, my good friend, Matthew,
I dropped off a bottle of wine at Jalen's house.
I signed a bat for him.
Crickets.
Yeah, I was going to say, man, I didn't, I didn't want it to be like I was laughing at you,
but I'm picturing Jalen Ramsey picking up the Trevor Pluth bad and just kind of like, okay.
Yeah, I was just trying to be a good neighbor.
I mean, he's literally a couple doors down for me, but saw him last night.
Okay.
Sitting right in front of us, obviously, because he's just stud.
Do you guys carpool home?
I didn't.
In fact, I missed the first two runs.
We were walking up into the stadium.
We parked, walked up.
We heard the place going nuts.
Two runs in the first.
We got there for the rest of the game.
The atmosphere was awesome, though.
Okay.
So fun.
So fun.
And then you just saw the dot.
I mean, the scary thing about the Dodgers is they can just go have a game like that against anybody.
Like, they absolutely dominated that game.
There was no point where the Giants were really threatening.
And like they were just all on display last night.
Top to bottom, that lineup is just a joke.
Yeah, I mean, the top four in their lineup goes, geez, eight for, eight for 17, eight for 18.
Mookie with two heads, Seeger with two hits.
Ray with two hits. Will Smith. Bad and
clean up the catcher. I know I've said it
before, but like appreciate who Will Smith
is. Oh my gosh.
I mean, that's a young
catcher bat and cleanup for the Dodgers
who if they win tomorrow night
are the favorite to make the playoffs.
And hey, that's a big insurance
Homer. That's a big
Paul Bickford pitch in the ninth inning
Homer that might
matter come
game five.
Discalfani, Trev. I don't know what you were
seeing. I know we were still
wrapping up kind of the first game. We caught
some disco. Looked
like the Dodgers were on them, but it's tough to
tell if that's the Dodgers or if that's
discolfani.
I think it's just the Dodgers.
They're just putting up good at bats right there.
Yeah. They really were.
It seemed like they were kind of all over the field
defensively, too. Shifts were working.
A couple balls off the bat. I was
like, oh, that could be a base hit.
Trey Turner is just everywhere on the field.
one observation I will make Chris Bryant is huge
a massive human being
and I played against this guy
on the field next like just I just didn't
in my mind at that time I didn't really think about it now I'm sitting in the stands
like this guy's a giant he's 6-5
and as Erica put on our sheet here
he started at left field
center field first base and right field
that's crazy that's on the
and he's a premier bat in the game
on the on the BR bleach report
thing we did. They asked if, I think someone tweeted in and it was like, are the Giants going to
really miss Chris Bryan after this year? And it was kind of like, not really. I mean, he's been
new to the team, but at the same time, like, I might lock it in that KB's staying in San Fran.
Like, I think everything you just said, he plays all those positions. Like, I, I don't know,
he does seem like a fit. The other guy who fits your, a lot of baseball players are massive.
every pitcher, Jake McGee came in the other day and was like,
that guy's an O-Lineman.
Well, he's a Sveld, a Sveld retired O-Lineman right now for Jake McGee.
Corey Seeger's huge.
Corey Seeger's a massive guy.
And yet at the same time,
the guy who does the biggest damage early in this game is Mookie Betts,
who might be 5-8-170.
Short King, baby.
Is he the short king?
It's really tricky.
I mean, I think Al Tuvei would have the nod without some of the habit stance that's now tied to him.
Mookie's got a great conversation for the number one sports short king.
Know who might be coming for him?
I think Kyler, dude.
I think Kyler Murray's short.
Oh, yeah, that's true.
He is short.
So there will be one day we'll do in all Short King's draft.
for now we'll keep it here.
Walker Bueller gets the infield single off the pitcher
that sets up the mooky homer
and if you believe in Juju and Baseball Gods,
I mean that essentially ended the game.
Dodgers going up, 4-0 at home,
knowing that the Giants did have game 5 in their pocket.
It basically hit a point in this game where it was like,
if you're the Giants, you just didn't want to burn out,
Rogers, McGee, or Doval, who Doval doesn't pitch in this one.
Rogers does.
He throws seven pitches.
McGee throws nine.
So end of the day, I don't think we can sit here Thursday night after the game
and say like, oh, McGee and Rogers got worn out.
Like, no, off day.
You threw a couple pills.
Anything else you saw at this game, Trev?
I was sitting next to this lady and Rogers comes in.
She's like, what is he throwing that way?
I was off.
It's just what he does.
It kind of like a submarine guy.
like you want me to blow your mind she's like yeah i'm like he's got a twin brother that pitches
on the twins and she couldn't believe me she's like what do you mean what do you mean
i'm like no really he has a twin brother who's a dominant reliever on the twin she's like does he throw
that way too i said no he's a lefty those cheese but it was funny to see that i mean i don't know
it was it really seemed to me and giants fans could correct me if i'm wrong and actually they
can't correct me because i talked to one of the coaches after the game
They could have brought Logan Webb and tried to go for it this game.
They decided against it.
They liked their chances in San Francisco with all their guys ready to go.
And I think that was ultimately the decision.
Maybe we can sneak this game out.
It's not like they weren't trying.
Yeah.
But I don't think they were trying their hardest.
Whereas the Dodgers, like you said, when they get up two runs, when they get up four nothing,
they can empty the clip if they need to, but they didn't even need to.
You know what?
They brought Kelly in.
They brought Brewster in.
Trinan.
But they didn't,
they brought Trinning in too,
but it didn't have to empty everything.
And those were kind of like low leverage type situation.
So it wasn't like crazy.
You know,
they needed these guys to go out
and throw high-stressed pitches.
Both these teams are set up perfectly.
Ureas versus Webb.
Bullpins are all ready to go.
I mean,
game five, baby.
Yeah.
Game freaking five.
These teams are so evenly matched.
I know on paper the Dodgers
look much better.
but 109 wins
109 wins one fucking game Jake
I'm sorry I cuss
but it deserved it's okay
emphasis
and you know what I guess
I guess the only thing
we are missing
and BBD correct me if I'm wrong
is we should
we should tee up game 5 a little bit
because we're not recording tomorrow
because and Trev you let us into it
Ureus, Logan Webb, in San Fran.
It doesn't get much better than that.
I wouldn't be surprised if you see Max Scher trotting around in the bullpen,
kind of the reverse Ureus.
But also, I mean, they've got Kenley, training, Kniebel,
Kelly or Vesia, I think you're playing with a little more,
a little more risk there.
Bruce Star, who they've started to trust again.
We looked nasty last thing.
by the way.
It's perfect, man.
It sucks so much for whatever team loses this game.
Like, I literally can't imagine.
Because, you know, we're, we make fun of them,
but we're talking heads now.
Like, what are we going to say about if the Dodgers lose?
What are we supposed to say?
Like, they won 106 teams.
They're a super team.
It's kind of a massive disappointment.
If the Dodgers, if the Giants lose,
we're going to say, uh, we knew it was going to be.
going to end at some point and it's like well they
they may have just lost to one of the best
rosters ever assembled so
I don't know what you do.
If the Giants lose
this series do not let me
say we knew the Dodgers
were going to catch them eventually.
I know I said that all freaking
season long I really felt that but the Giants
kept them away. That is not what
happened here. The Dodgers didn't just catch up to the
Giants and beat them in a five game series if
that happens. These are just two
really freaking good teams that had to
slug it out over five. We wish this could be a seven game series. We wish this could be for the whole
dang thing, almost, but uh, giants are legit, man. The giants are legit. I thought I had something
else to say. And now I forgot. Oh, Pujols. Albert. Big ovation last night. That was pretty cool.
He's awesome. I mean, I, uh, people forget. I copied his batting stance as a kid. People forget.
Um, another thing I thought I wanted to mention. I don't know, man. What do you got?
You always love talking belly.
You always love talking.
Belly looking a little bit better.
That's really good for the Dodgers.
Lux has been,
his bats look good.
I liked his post game comments when he said,
I just want to be a pest at the bottom of the order.
Yeah, man, they just, they look good.
Yeah, it's, yeah, I mean,
someone is going to become a star
or stay a star on Thursday night.
It's interested to see if it's one of the people we know,
the posies, the Crawford, Mokey, Seeger, Turner,
or, you know, Gavin Lux, you mentioned him like,
this guy was a top top prospect.
He's kind of been buried in Dodgersland because they have so much talent.
Or are the Giants going to flash what's been so beautiful about them?
Are we going to get some late night Lamont?
You know, does a Lestella have a day?
Nice.
That was a nice catch.
That was hoping.
When that happened, you hoped the Giants were going to battle back.
They only had one extra base hit in last night's game.
It kind of felt like everyone was building up for game five.
Which you were supposed to do, too, Brewers.
We're supposed to be talking about Burns-Fried.
We should be talking about an NLCS double-dip.
NLDS.
Man, Urius.
I kind of want to talk about my fight with Brett Anderson last night.
on Twitter.
You know, I said my Braves
win and I'm at a Dodger game.
Life is good.
Let me live in the moment a little bit.
Let me have a good night.
Let me share it with the people.
Brett Anderson comes out of nowhere
and says, like, your Braves,
you're watching the team that's going to wall up
your Braves in the NLCS.
I didn't really, I mean, like,
the Brewers just lost to the Braves, bro.
like in four games.
Didn't have to go five.
Yeah.
Like you guys scored four runs or whatever the hell you scored.
So I, you know, I said you don't think the Braves are any good.
Then he kind of calmed down a little bit.
And in my DMs, and I don't think he'll mind me sharing this, he said, I just think
that both these lineups, Dodgers and Giants, have the hitters to wear the brave starters
out and then they're going to go out to the bullpen.
And I agree with that sentiment.
It's going to be a much more difficult time for the Braves,
which either team they have to play because there is,
there are longer lineups here.
But man, I don't think, I just don't think you can,
you can disrespect the Braves that way with what they just did.
So true.
With what they just did.
You and Brett Anderson, friends in person beefing online.
That's how 2021 works.
We never love hate, man.
serious stuff. I kind of love it.
Trep. I respect Brett Anderson. I'm going to put that out there on the internet.
I respect Brett Anderson.
Yeah, I think there's a mutual respect.
Because you worked him in the box.
One daughter.
Treve, I want to ask you the question Bleach Report asked us last night.
It's a little tradition media.
Does the World Series winner come from Thursday night's game?
No.
Okay.
You know my picks, bro.
Okay.
Okay.
I will say this, the betting favorite will come from.
If, like, if they're in the World Series, that they'll be the favorite.
Astros?
I could see the Astros getting more love and vagi over the G-Men.
I don't think so.
No, one calls the baseball giants the G-Men, huh?
No, they're the Los Hibedor.
that. I don't know. Maybe they would be a fear. I don't know. Who knows, dude? Who knows? You know why
we're not talking heads? It's not too hot. It's because every once in a while we say, I don't know.
Yeah, it's true. That's the difference between us and other media. We're okay saying, I don't know.
It's baseball. It's baseball. It's baseball. It's baseball, bro. Especially of all the sports,
and it's kind of the beauty of baseball. Um, so we will, uh,
We'll be live tomorrow night, Thursday night, streaming Dodgers Giants.
I think that's going to be a fun one.
We had these elimination wild card games.
Those had some juice.
And then you had a couple Yankee fans watching Ray's socks.
That's a tough click for some Ray's and socks fans.
But those actually, we got a lot of views and stuff, so you guys have been the best.
But tomorrow night is going to be a big one.
we'll be excited for that.
And then Friday, we'll recap game 5, full NLCS, ALCS preview.
Oh, man.
It's going to be, I'm so excited for this.
Yeah.
Tell me how was the Bleacher Report then?
It was good, man.
No, I didn't watch it.
I do want to give them a lot of love, and this isn't anything through our teeth.
Like they, we were a little nervous just because, you know, we do our own thing.
And a lot of companies don't kind of get what we do a lot of times.
They like it, but they don't really get it.
We had a couple calls with Bleach Report to set it up.
All those calls went great.
They knew what we were doing and they just wanted to supplement it.
They sent out a guy, Alex, to help out last night.
They were great.
The setup, we had the actual, like, we had the, in our ears, we had people talking.
we had people talking to us.
We're going to run the Freddie highlights.
So that was a little weird.
We weren't great at that.
I'm going to be honest.
It was our first time.
It's keeping your words going while someone's talking in your ear.
That's tough.
Like, kudos to Peter Moyland, I guess.
No?
No.
I don't think it's that tough.
I think he did it like twice.
You'd be okay with it.
That's probably true.
So thank you.
I know I asked a lot of you guys to jump over there to that.
and a lot of you guys did.
We might be doing more with them.
We'll see.
Anything else you need to get off your chest, Trev?
Yeah, there is a few things.
It really seems like we're getting shots fired at us from different people.
James is getting it right now.
You know, as our face of the company, he's getting it.
You got it about the nerds tweet.
Hample's coming at us.
Brett Anderson's coming at me.
You know what I say to all these people?
people. Okay.
Sweet. We got work to do, baby.
Yeah. I, uh...
And Hample, I'll see you, I'll see you all-star game in the bleachers, baby.
Real battle. Yeah, I mean, that's a lot of moving parts there.
I don't know if I'm really going to be even there because I might be doing something more important than that, but if I am there, watch out.
No, honestly, I don't even care.
Yeah, I guess that's the big.
I was debating what to say and it's just like don't really I don't know like I will have
someone's back though so like I'm going to have Jimmy's back Jimmy said on the live stream that if
Hample wants to fight he'll let Hample punch him once and then Jimmy gets to punch himself once
and then Hample gets to punch him again and if they could shake hands and move after that I think
that's a good solution if I have
have to volunteer his tribute to be Joms Fighter.
I'm willing to do that.
I've got a little extra on the core right now.
I've been studying Tyson Fury.
I think we've got similar body types between me and Tyson Fury.
All right.
I think the wheels are off the track a little bit.
Thank you, everyone.
Enjoy the baseball.
Shout out King BPD.
Oh, King BPD.
What are your thoughts on everything throughout the episode?
Ah.
I'll also punch Jimmy, I guess, if we're doing that.
I like Jack a lot.
All the Pearls stuff is very funny to me.
White Sox, Division of Frauds is just fun to say.
Don't know how true it is, but it's fun to say.
I'm excited for Game 5.
Thank you.
That was beautiful.
Everyone enjoy your bad day.
That was beautiful stuff.
Thanks, everybody.
We'll see you guys streaming tomorrow.
I'll let me take over the jakess
please I need it
don't make fun of my nose
stop making fun of my nose people
Jake sucks
That's a powerful one baby
Get a boy
baseball
AJR and a few
AJR coming up in a few minutes
If you're into that kind of stuff
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