Talkin' Baseball (MLB Podcast) - 411 | Atlanta Walks Off AGAIN to Take 2-0 Series Lead

Episode Date: October 18, 2021

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Hello and welcome to talking baseball. The Braves beat the Dodgers again. It was a walkoff and what's going to happen in game three, Red Sox Astros. Let's do it. Hello and welcome to talking baseball. Brought to you by Draftings. My name's Jimmy. We got Trevor in California.

We got Jake in the Bronx and VBD producing behind the plate. Another good game of championship series. Baseball last night. Braves. Win again? Dodgers? What's going on? Good stuff.

Jake and I were watching live on the stream. Trev called in. Trevor went to a horror night. Oh, my God. BPD behind the dish. How are you doing, Treve? Guys, I'm doing great. I'm excited to talk about this game.

I did go to a, like a fright, fest type thing last night not my cup of tea but again out in LA it was fun to see in a group of people not watching baseball everyone was watching baseball on their phone it was really cool to see that I don't know man this this game kind of kind of had it all I'm excited to talk about this excited to talk about the ALCS I got some hot takes that I think Ron Darling will like to hear

which is great Jacob, how are you doing, man? Interesting. James, Trevor, BBD, everyone live in the chat. The moms, your friends, your family, mostly Eddie Rosario. My guy. What a night, man. Atlanta, things are getting very real.

My biggest concern for Braves fans, they're kind of welcoming me in with open arms. I'm drinking the Kool-Aid between Jock and the pearls and our guy Young Thick, Ozzie Albi, sexy as hell. The Braves are a lot of fun right now, and I mean, there's a lot of conversations to be had about this game, about the rest of the series, because, I mean, the Dodgers still have, for four games,

they're going to have four of the nastiest starting pitchers. You're going to see if they get it there. And meanwhile, the Braves and the same thing, Salt, man. Like, this is getting very real for Atlanta. I'm excited for them. We've got a lot of Atlanta people in the company. Peter Moyland, Kelsey Winger, Ashland.

Trevor Plouffe was wearing the hat right now. He's claiming himself part of Braves territory. So baseball's hot, man, especially that cat scratch, my guy. Me and Eddie used to plan twins together. People forget that. People forget. James, how are you doing? I'm good.

I'm good. Uh, you know, some traffic last night, but that was a fun game. I, the NL series has been. And the AL series, obviously there's a lot of bias when I say it because it's just like, but, uh, I like the closer, lower scoring drama ending games more. Yes. Uh, so they've been fun. Ron Washington getting tons of love.

That's awesome. I don't know if you saw the fun tidbit about Rosario. but he went back into the clubhouse to grab the bat he hit the cycle with for his last that bat of the game, because that's his magic bat. I didn't hear that one, which is pretty awesome. Awesome. Yeah. Yeah.

I'm going to dig down. Is it a deeper, I mean, is it a different model? I got to dig. I got a dig. I mean, man, we've got Eddie with a magic bat. Jack Peterson is wearing pearls on a baseball field and hitting 400. 154 foot homers off of Max Scherzer. There's some magic in the ATL right now, man.

You want to hear some magic? Yes. I told you I was going to save this for the show. Someone said I was low energy in the chat. They don't know yet. Wow. They don't know. Listen, last night, people know because, you said it on the stream.

I was supposed to go to this fright night. I went with a bunch of my friends. Then Kotuck was going to be there. And then Jay Flair said, I'm going to be there. and last minute both canceled them. And at that point of the night, wasn't looking good for the bravos. Guess what happened though?

What happened? Jayflair ended up coming. Wow. Late night Braves magic. Jayflair shows up. The universe is kind of back in order. We're hanging out. And then boom,

we get the eighth inning with Ozzy in Austin Youngthick and then boom Rosario Ray's got the magic right now They got it She excited for the Braves His friend Fried? Not really

Not really He's excited for Max But he's one of those guys That doesn't want to watch the playoffs He's sick to his stomach That they're not in it He's the ultimate competitor So yes he's happy for Max

But I was like hey we're going to go to a game He's like I can't watch right now I get it He's so big too Whenever I hang out with him, I'm so mad at him. He's so big. Tall and handsome. Big bones.

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Holy cow. The Dodgers down a game to the Braves. Hope Maxwell would bring his silver hammer. As Scher would try to nail down a win. And the Braves wanted to put on a science class as they'd show off their net electric. charge. Ion Anderson would try to defend Westeros for the Bravos. Top one MVP most ball and his player. Corey Seeger last year's MVP of the World Series with the two-run ding-dong. It's stay two-nothing

into the fourth. Let's get dressed up and grab your pearls. Jocktoberfest continues, yeah. Two-run Bob by young jock. Boing into the seventh. Chris Tate. Gayle, two-run double. Good fortitude to make the score. Four to two. In the eighth, Urias. Here comes the bad man. Stadietti Rosario.

He gets a hit. Braves' crazy train continues with Ozzy. Albies with the RBI single. Four to three. Make it fours. I like that peach down in Georgia. Young thick, Austin Riley. Mm-hmm.

That dress. bottom nine call Ted Nugent because we got some cat scratch fever Eddie Rosario and his eyebrows under Seeger's glove ion to Chavez to Minter to Webb to Matzick to Jackson a Martin a Smith Braves win 54 final and go up to O in the series You're electric got dizzy you're electric That dizzy fought through the end Proud of you need more water me and VHud

Yeah, you do. Caliwater. Ad. James, what you got, man? I mean, one, Bill Plaskey just, I just saw a tweet from him last night that has me laughing.

What happened? It just came on my radar, so this is an aside, but Moyland responded to him. Pretty funny. After the five game badness against the Giants, this NLCS game won in sterile shopping mall, Atlanta Stadium.

Wow. Feels like a Saturday night in May. Most excitement is discussion of post game trip to Waffle House. That's like the saltiest tweet. He's saying that Atlanta was just a bad time to watch a game. Yeah. Wow. The most exciting thing was the discussion about the Waffle House trip.

Why do I know Bill Plashke? Is he a LA Times guy? Yeah, you know him around the horn. Around the horn. You'd know him instantly if you saw us. Okay. Man, I don't know. It's just such a salty tweet.

It's hilarious. It's getting. Don't talk about Braves Nation like that. Is that what it's called Braves Nation? Sure. Yeah, I made that up. If it isn't, it is now. I think so.

Maybe not. The Braves are awesome. And I, obviously, I want to rip on the Dodgers, but I don't want Braves fans coming at me saying, and like don't just, you know, act like the Dodgers are blowing it because the Braves are winning and they're putting together good at bats and they're like late and close and that's they're just clutch and they're awesome.

And I like Snits moves with, uh, his pen. What the hell are the Dodgers doing? Why is Euryas pitching in the eighth inning? And then Scherzer just says my arm felt dead. We couldn't. I don't know. Like, and then. and then then having um susa in in in right um letting letting edy tag up from first i think that was

pollock threw that one in like there's a lot of little details here and then you know seager off his glove to end the game like this sloppy managing or situational or like you know i would shocked that Susan and and all these people they're like getting into every game thatters have a lot of good players that we always rave about and they're letting other stuff get in the way it's weird I don't know what they're doing this game was weird it's a lot of that you know we we praise teams when they go unconventional with their bullpins in in the post season we actually enjoy it we love that you know urea's can come in high leverage anytime then also start

But eventually it can bite you, and it has bit the Dodgers a little bit here. You are getting a bunch of different players in the game when you're moving pitchers around this much. And then we saw last night with all Scher's piece, people were pissed when Roberts took him out. And they were saying, like, how could you not trust him here? But then after the game, he's like, dude, my arm was dead. He went to Roberts and said, I got two hitters. And if I'm not there, you got to pull me. He's fatigued because they've been pitching in unconventional ways, whereas Snitker has kept his bullpen kind of like, you know, they know when they're going to pitch.

They know their kind of role. And I think that helps guys recover. Mentally it helps you. And when it works, that unconventional approach is awesome. But then, you know, we saw with Scherzer with Urias last night. Sometimes when it backfires, it just doesn't look right. And you're going to pay for it in the upcoming games. He's like, how is Eureas now going to respond?

He's supposed to start game four. You'll never have a lot. Never have that move makes sense to me. I mean, Trinan through nine pitches, they have the lead. Trinan goes one more inning. You still have Brewster and Kenley, who obviously were available to you. And you have the lead. Like, why is Euryas coming in?

It makes you have your guys to close out the game. Yeah, he said some, he said some reasons. after the game. But I think at the root of it is, they maybe trust Jureas in those situations more than anybody else. I think that's the root of it. And people are saying analytics,

analytics. I don't know if that was necessarily like an analytical move. I think it's just like Urius has kind of been their guy and he put him in a high leverage spot. It didn't work out. But I agree with you. I mean, you look at what Trinan's done. Like he's freaking filthy.

And I know he got touched up and walked off in game one. but like I said after that game, there wasn't like hard hits, gets through nine pitches, he's ready. I don't know, man. A lot of second guessing, but I don't mind Ureas having the ball

in a high leverage spot. The Dodgers clearly believe in this, which we'll see. And hey, Eureas was the hero last playoff series, and if he came in, Dave Roberts gave Eurias a two-run lead going into the eighth inning. Like last year, that was the formula for a win.

So, hey, he was hunting the win and he kind of gets got, so we'll see what that means going forward. But Jimmy, you said this on the live stream. A, the Dodgers having to come to Atlanta, west coast to east coast, after playing the five-gamer against San Fran. You know, they had a back-end bullpen day, game one. So they didn't seem completely dialed and had their best punch for that. Now we see Scherzer. He goes 4.1-79 pitches. I mean, one of the bigger warrior starting pitchers that's still in baseball,

he had to close out the San Francisco game. Like, we're seeing a ripple effect of that series. If the Dodgers had won that series in four, Mad Max probably just would have what, started game one and maybe not have had a tired arm. So we're seeing the ripple effect of the Braves. They took care of their business. They won in four.

The Dodgers went up against the Big Bad Wolf in San Francisco, man. It's kind of like right now, if you're a Dodgers fan, it's got to feel like, you know, a cliffhanger-type movie where they knock the other person off the cliff, but then on the way down, they, like, stab them with a knife in their Achilles heel or something like that. Bad-ass movie.

Bad-ass film. We should do it. Jesus. Yeah. Cliffhanger. This is a, gosh, dang, I just lost it. What did you just lose? It.

All right. this is getting i don't want to like give this too much but i did read it and i thought it was interesting tom house you guys know who tom house is love his first album didn't like the second he's he's like an old pitch he's a former pitcher who's like the mechanics guru he's been around forever throwing guru i think even tom brady worked with them at some point like he's very active on twitter and comments on my blitzball pitch is a good amount okay i don't i i i've had good experiences him, whatever. He put out last night. Talking about Scherzer, because Scherzer said he had dead arm. He says, recovery is at a premium in the playoffs. You need every hour of

sleep and recovery possible. Celebrations are fun, but alcohol pushes back recovery by hours. As a pitcher, I wouldn't partake. Recovery faster, pitch better, win, party later. I'm aware this is an old man take. Wow. So, like, this is what's going to happen. So this is the double-edged sword here. Everybody loves party, Scherzer. Everybody loves, you know, screw tomorrow, get drunk tonight, we'll figure it out later.

I think that was a quote, he said, not a quote, but something right around there. And then you come out and have dead arm and you have Tom House saying you're not recovering correctly. I don't know, man. That was interesting to me to think about. Max Scherzer's. Dodgers have had a party and then flying cross-country

and having to do all this. And then you tell, you know, you had to come out with dead arm. I know it has something to do with the, fact you came in the ninth inning, but it's interesting. He's getting Facebook Red Cup treatment in 2008? What's that mean? Jim. Facebook Red Cup treatment.

Back when Facebook was like the Facebook we grew up with, they told you like, oh, any pictures of you holding a red cup on your Facebook? That's going to be held against you. And so now Max Scher's or 36-year-old Max Scher's. is getting that. Oh, up higher, 37. 37 and one. Get out of here.

Tom Mouse. No, Tom House. You don't like it? He also tweeted players will use the best tech in the world to analyze their game, then not sleep enough, eat right, or drink enough water. New tech doesn't fix bad process, which, I mean, he's not against the tech. And he said it's an old man take. It's true.

It's just interesting to see what comes out. You know what I mean? He likes our Blitzball videos. and he's my new pitching coach. Well, that's kind of why I'm also against him. It seems like he picked a side. I think he commented on one once. It's tough.

Before we kind of get to the Braves side of thing a little more, can I tell you guys about charity buzz? Oh, dude. He said you're the Blitzball Gratterol, so. What? Has he watched the actual? Has he seen Brewster Graz? lateral pitch.

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com. Instagram. Charity Buzz, go check them out if you're in the cards game or if you're not. If you like cards or good causes or Trevor Pluth, you'll go there. Now it all makes sense. I was getting some strange tweets to me about charity and buzz going on and now I get it. Something happened and here we are. Oh yeah. We told people to tweet at you yesterday. Okay. I was like, what is happening? I forgot what we told them to say. I think Jake told everyone to tweet at you and say they loved your charity work. Yeah.

Yeah. They did. You're welcome. Oops. That's funny. Let's talk about this game. Let's talk about it. I don't know if I can.

What's going on with your braves, Treff? Eddie Rosario, that's our guy. It's just kind of happening for them. You know, it's not a one. person thing. We have multiple people carrying this team right now. And I was talking to C. Rose about it. Look, over 162, Dodgers are the better team.

There's just no doubt about it. Like, it showed up in the regular season. They won 106 games. But this ain't 162. You know, seven game series, anything can happen. Bats can go cold. Bats can get hot and that's going to be the difference. The Dodgers can't hit with runners in scoring position.

The Braves are barely getting runners into scoring position but when they do they're getting them in like it's it's the timely hitting the the you know the the the ball bouncing your way when and not the other team's way in these series that's all it takes man we're up to nothing now and it's a few different things i mean it's rosario tagging up on a fly ball to left field just sneaking in you know Ozzie getting jammed through the shift scoring that um i mean the the the send by ron washington with rosario where he was like this safe like all these things can just go the other way but they didn't they're going the brave's way right now not to mention jock and austin riley stepping up i mean they have the momentum

the magic everything working for them right now two victories away from the world series yep just they were up three one last year the dodgers are still like i it I'll say this. I think the Braves, if they, if they are to win, they needed to take the two at home. Like Jake had a realization yesterday and he was just like, it's coming back to Atlanta. Like this series will finish in Atlanta no matter what.

That's huge. So, you know, I think we all thought the Dodgers are going to win this easily. I still think obviously the Dodgers can pull off two wins at home and then it comes back. But, and this is dumb, the Braves are in the best spot. If the Braves didn't win both these games, I think that they might not come back to Atlanta.

I can see that. And teams that go up to 2-0, when 84% of the series. Now, obviously, the most recent case of teams not winning the series after going up 2-0 is last year between these same two teams. So, you know, the Dodgers understand the position they're in. But the way, like, that everyone's kind of clicking right now, jock has just got something going on, dude. you know young thick seems locked in i watched some video of him talking about his mechanics

and like he you know he made like a conscious effort to you know stay back on the ball more like kind of be more balanced and you can just tell man he's like on everything and i don't know who was after after the game was talking about how and you always hear winning team say this um i think it was either jockey or austin riley they were saying no we don't feel any pressure because if i don't get the job done. Somebody else is going to get the job done. It's like, you know, different people stepping up every night. So that's a good feeling to have as a team when you don't have to shoulder the load. They're playing with house money a little bit. I mean, their best player hasn't been there for half the season. Acuna played 82 games this year. Man, I mean, Rosario signed the one-year deal,

got traded over there. He's balling out four-hit game from the lead-off spot. Gets put up there and balls out. Jock with another homer. He signed the one-year contract with the Cubs, gets traded over there. He's balling out. He's wearing pearls, man. I had a pretty good. It just got posted, Awakened Jake clip, but I was like, dude, if that happened in Ted Lassow, like a player started wearing pearls and then the whole stadium started wearing pearls, you'd be like, all right, Ted Lassow riders. Like, you push the envelope a little far. This is a real life. There's Look at you. There's adults.

There's kids. There's boys. There's girls. Everyone's wearing pearls in the stadium. And Jack also, after that, has a blonde mohawk. He's bawling out. He's playing so aggressive. It's so fun.

The other thing that is kind of wild if you're a Braves fan, Freddie has been deemed useless so far. He's 0 for 8 with 7Ks, 7 straight. He finally gets a fly out. Which, boy, did he? like need that. And I don't know. Jim, absolutely what you're saying. Like, I don't think anyone thinks this series is over, over, the Braves, they are the Vegas favorites now. I mean, like Trev said, teams with a 2-0 lead. If they can bring it seven games, four of the Braves starting pitchers are

going to be Bueller for two of those games. He'd be three and seven. Ureas and you'd get another Scherzer start. So like, obviously you can't rule the Dodgers out there. Mostly just bring Eureas out of the pen again. And they might do that. Who knows? The Dodgers are star-studded. It's going back to L.A. they're going to talk themselves into this.

Here's what I'll say, and not to give too much of the preview for tomorrow's talking baseball. They're playing at a weird time tomorrow. 2 o'clock in L.A. And it's Bueller v. Morton. So, like, if you're the Dodgers, you've got to be,

obviously, you're down 2-0. But is there going to be a point where it's the fifth inning and the Braves are up 1-0 and Charlie Morton looks gross and you got shadows creeping in. Like the Dodgers have put themselves in a super dangerous spot. I mean, obviously they're down too low, Jake. But I don't know. This is fun, man.

This is a lot of fun. It is a lot of fun. You want to know why? Because if this was the other way around, the Dodgers were up to nothing, we'd be like this series is over. Done. Done.

But Braves. Braves Country, by the way. It's not Braves Nation. raised country my mistake got to be feeling good about the situation they're in like you said freddie hasn't given them anything charlie morton hasn't thrown a pitch yet this series

they're doing it awesome man and their and their bullpen has been there for them dude what's the news on solair one two it's being highlighted again and after last night's game being brought to everyone's attention

the indians traded Eddie or Zario to the Braves for nothing. Wasn't Pablo Sandable? Who is nothing, Trev. Immediately released. Immediately released. Like, inside trading, like, if this was in the financial world, you'd point it and you'd say, you're suspect. You guys made a deal somewhere.

Like, this doesn't add up. Indians fans, got to be like, what? Yeah. We didn't get any thing for him, not even too. 17 year olds with with like you know 10% of promise ridiculous trade it's funny because they said you're hearing people you want edie rosario for free yeah and they and then the brave said yes absolutely and they said well okay the league isn't going to approve that for free but can you just send us something all right are you on pablo there must have been some money offset there's got to be

something we got to look into that a little more dude i think we're we're talking about baseball and where it's going, especially if this Braves crazy train continues a little bit. I mean, freed Morton and Ion. By the way, Soroka out for the year. You know, they've got bullpen guys that have been through it a few times now. And like Jimmy just referenced, they traded for Solair, who was a batting leadoff for them and was going nuts for them. They traded for jock, who's been going nut job for them and has started basically a craze.

Adam Duvall was near the league leader in R.B. eyes. Did I say Rosario? Is he the one I missed so far, who had four hits from the leadoff spot last night? They traded for four MLB outfielders. What did they give up? So they bought everyone at their lowest. And I was saying like, why the time. So I'm wrong there. But I also am still mad at the Indian Scardians. But if you want to add that to your equation, Jim, if you have, if you have enough starting pitching and a trade deadline rolls up and you can get an Eddie Rosario for nothing. There's a

important. There's a GM game plan. You know, Eddie, this is what's great about playoff baseball and like it just shows you if you're hot, that's what matters. The guy's hitting leadoff. He's got a career like, what, 300 on base percentage? Like, he is not a leadoff hitter. That's been his knock on his game. This entire time he's been in the big

leagues is he just doesn't get on base. He swings too much. Now everyone's praising. He loves to go after the first pitch. Put him fucking lead off. He's going to go four for five. I love it, man. Like you just, every postseason, a team collectively gets hot, and they're the one that does it.

If the Braves can stay hot, man. Eddie Rosario hitting leadoff for you? That's unfreking heard of. Hot. Hey, hey, Treve, I have a question for you. I don't know if there's any more in this game. But that video of, Joe Kelly doing gamesmanship and do fake shaking.

Have you seen that for Sosson Riley? As a batter, do you think, is that something that you paid attention to? I mean, clearly pitchers do it for a reason. I think it worked in that situation. He took a curve ball right down the middle. Yeah, I think there are times where you can get in sync with a pitcher and you can tell a difference between a real shake and then a plan shake. and if you can do that, you might be able to guess along with them. But what it does to you as a hitter is now when he does it that much,

it now makes you think about all of his pitches. Like, he shook there. I mean, how many shakes does he have? What pitches does he have? So now in your head you're thinking about two or three different pitches instead of being locked in on one or on a specific zone. So it does get you thinking a little bit. And even that is enough to get your timing off or your balance.

off or something like that. So yeah, definitely work for him. When Riley goes back to the dugout or whatever or clubhouse in the middle of the game or after the game and he watches that and sees like what the hell were those shakes and then sees that he would they were all fake. Is he just like that fucker? Like he got. Yeah. It's gamesmanship for sure. Oh, it's awesome.

I mean, a really good job by was at Fox last night. Really good job by Fox going to the split screen at that. they caught something great by going to the split screen. I'd go to split screen with a catcher and pitcher. No one on base, I'd show the catchers fingers every time. I think so too. You're right about that.

Maybe they'll take you up on that. They steal all your other stuff. So, it's the coolest part. But like, and a lot of people responded that, Will Smith, like, kind of had to know that he just does fake shakes

because any other catchers are going to be like, call time and go do a mound visit. And be like, what the fuck do you want, man? I put down every pitch twice. But he just kept rolling with it. So Joe Kelly must say like, hey, we're going to do a lot of fake shakes here. They know.

Planned games. It's awesome. Yeah, they know. There'll be times where, like, you can see it. Like, when I used to play shortstop or even when I used to pitch, it's, there are times where you'll shake and they'll just throw the exact same sign back down to you. And then, okay, here we go. TBS, my best.

It's just a rapport that you develop over time. Tibis. Hey, Will Smith first Will Smith. We got it. Will Smith won. Yeah. One for five, I think four Ks and one home run. I think one big homer.

Both Will Smiths would half trade on that. I know the pitcher probably wouldn't admit it, but. What, uh, always says, I wish we had the good Will Smith. Tough. Did, uh, did it remain true that Trey Turner's fly out? was a homer in every other stadium. I haven't seen the phone. The one Rosario caught?

Yeah, because I'm still calling bull spit on that. That doesn't make any sense. All right, you're with us. Yeah, I don't believe all that stuff. Yeah. Okay, cool. Cool. You boys want to talk some Red Sox Houston tonight?

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Jimmy's standing. He's wearing jeans? Yes, first time wearing jeans all the year. You went jeans today. Wow. 55. So I'm in. Two.

Yeah, I just have like two pairs of the same jeans that get rotated. That doesn't surprise me at all. I think maybe I have three. Ooh. But yeah, I'm pretty excited. I was pretty excited to wake up and be like, it's actually a fall. I'm going to wear pants. Legitimately chilly.

What kind of cut? What kind of cut? Yeah. Is that slim? Is it baggy? Is it? Slim. I have to wear slim.

Because I'm so fat in the waist that if I do like straight, then they're just like incredibly baggy. Knee below and they look like I'm wearing floods. So I got to go slim fit jeans. I could hear you say wearing floods all day. That was a cool sentence. Thank you. No problem, man. Are you guys excited for Erkiti versus Erod tonight?

We'll be live streaming with Kelsey Winnet. Yes, Kel's coming in. It'll be fun. Yeah. You're not excited for you. You guys are in a tough spot. Erod's so boring. Like, Erod's best game isn't getting on any highlight reels.

And, you know, his duds are like not even that bad up duds. So he's probably, he's probably one of the more steady, reliable pitchers. that's been on the Red Sox for the last five years. But yeah, I don't know if he's like a pitching ninja guy. He doesn't excite anything. But hopefully it's a good game. He's one of those guys where you think you're going to rake him every time you go up there and then you don't.

It's just how it is. He's one of those guys. He serves pitches to you in a zone that you think you can have success in and then you can't. And I'm actually excited to see some of that with the guy like Bregman, who I think can get to the zone. that he throws in, you know, sometimes he'll go in, a little bit up with that cutter.

Bragman can pull the hands and he does the choke up thing. I'm banking on Bragge having at least a ball off of the monster tonight. Okay. But this is the story of the game, is the starting pitching and how they're going to use the pitchers. Travel days so everybody's rested. We know the Astros are thin on starter. so Orkidi has to

you know pick up some slack there he can't we can't have like a two-ending thing out of this guy or else it's going to be really bad for the Astros it's yeah did I say he hasn't pitched

since the end of the regular season did you guys know that? Yeah Jesus that's he hasn't pitched in 15 days October 3rd yeah you're stretched out then I'm sure he didn't bullpens and stuff

but uh it's going to be an office offensive game. I mean, it's Fenway and it's these two pitchers. So I just hope that it's exciting in the end. It will be. We have to see how old Cora's going to manage the pen. Is he going like, is Pavetta going to be in there? Are we going to say Povetta for game four? Like, these are all the decisions that I think are going to be where the game is one or lost is how they're managing this bullpen. You know, the starters are going to start and we'll see how they go. But then what's the move afterwards? They did say that I believe he did say that Povetta is the plan.

for game for unless they need him tonight. So Povetta, so if the Red Sox, you know, and they're going to need them then. Yeah. I don't, unless we think they're going to, the Red Sox are going to feel so comfortable up six nothing or something like that. So that that's where the fun does start today. You're right. E. Rod versus Keady.

That doesn't get anyone really standing on the edge of your seat. I mean, best, best case for both of those guys is like five innings, two earned. And that's like no. There's no hype. about it. No, no. Or Keeter versus Erod, let's fucking do it. But the three-day chess match starts today.

And again, like four innings from either of those guys in this series and how baseball's played today is big. So who can get there, who can't? And then like you said, Kora's brilliant chess match starts today. Does he pull the Povetta button? Does he pull the Halk button? Halk threw 18 pitches on Friday. So that's the thing.

I think both teams, if they get four, two times through the lineup, they have a formula. The Red Sox can either go to Povetta or Hauk, and in theory that brings them to their higher leverage guys, Brazier, Whitlock, Robles, or on the other side of the ball, for Houston, their best weapon so far has been Javier. So if you can get like four out of Erkiti, you get two out of Javier, then you're to your higher leverage guys, Presley, Graveman, maybe some Stannock Rayleigh lefty-righty stuff. But it's if those starting pitchers can get to four. And I don't know if you can, man. These lineups are gross right now. We're in Fenway.

Very excited to see the game path of this game. You know, you open up Grand Slam, Grand Slam, last game was over quick. Where's the blood in the water? How ugly does it get early? Because that's all it is. We know Cora's going to do everything he can win to every game in the playoffs. It's nuts that you have. have to say that.

He's going to go out and try to get this. So yeah, I mean, full pension Piv. I wonder what a, I wonder if we could talk to Draft Kings and get a line on full pension Pib getting in this game. That'd be a, that'd be a good line. I'm at the Draft Kings app right now, searching for some bets because I'm going to leave New Jersey soon. Do you guys want to help me?

Need it. Yeah, let us know what you got. I'll help you out, man. The line is minus 1 20 for runs in the first inning. So they're just telling you they think someone's going to score. It's usually just so. It's usually just 100 both ways. So I'm not placing that bet.

Peter Moreland failed me yesterday. Well, yeah, we were talking about that. Eye on Anderson's first inning struggles. I was listening. I can reverse a bet. Draft Kings allows you to just say like, hey, psych, I don't want to do that anymore until first pitch. So, you know, just lost half my moat.

Is there, give me a Bregman prop. Do you find any Bregman props now? I think tonight's going to be a game for him, especially early against Erod. I wonder if he has, I need to go look at his numbers right now. Hold on. All the alternative player props.

Alex Bragman total hits. Over two and a half or under. Jesus. Two and a half. That's high. That's a lot. Two and a half hits? What's the line under?

Negative, uh, 1400. I bet $5 to win. I bet $5 will win 35 cents. That's the worst line I've ever. What the fuck? That's a big, that's a big line. Hit the over because hit the over and sprinkle it. What's the over?

It's going to be plus a lot, right? That's how they get you, Treve. That's how you don't win 35 cents. Brinkled Jake. $700. Jim's going to take his 35 cents, pay me half of it to maintain the moat and you're going to be sitting there losing money. Let's put a dollar.

I'll put a dollar on. The problem is right. three hits. Let's go. The problem is walks. Okay, here, you want to know his line off of Erod? Five for 12, two homers a double. 417, 462, one dot for a 1.462.

The guy is, I don't even know that. I knew he was in a rake. All right. Carlos Correa over total hits, one and a half. And then Correa's going to get two? Or Verdugo is also one and a half. Dude, just do all of them. and like two out of five will hit.

Just do all of them as $1. And eventually you got to make money. Oh, my God, stop. I'm doing that. Putting a dollar on every individual over. What's the most I lose? Five bucks? If one of them hits, I've won five bucks.

Yes, we've got a gambler. Verdugo over two and a half hits. One buck. Carlos Correa, six for ten. With a double 600, 733, 700 slugging for a 1.4. Both these guys have 1.4s against Erod. Look out, dude. Yeah, this is...

Enrique, over. One and a half hits. Yeah, absolutely. I put 100 on that one. This is going to be an interesting game. I really... When McCullors went out, it really put a damper on my Astros feeling. You know, my...

you know, trust level with them, but they can slug with anybody. Even when they were down nine runs, they put a scare into the Red Sox. They're going to have to continue to do it. I think what's the overrunner on this game? Got to be eight and a half a game, maybe nine.

Nine. The bats are coming to play in this series. There's just no way around it. This is what the game is going to come down to. Who gets the outs with runners in scoring position? Who gets the big strikeout? like that's what this game is going to come down to there's going to be hits with runners in a corner position there's going to be runs but there's going to be a time where somebody

steps up gets the big strikeout and that's going to be the that's going to be the game you can should I bet on someone to go hitless what we got did take the over on guerriel hits he's hitting I just did I skipped a lot of people and then I took uh Yuley I skipped jordan zander but Devers I can oh hold on where is it Brantley Plus 200 that he won't get a hit But that's not that fun

Michael Brantley Already has a hit Walking into this game It's true A little Not to say actual analysis You guys know me Both these pitchers

Erkidis 50% heaters E-Rod is like If you factor in his cutter Which you kind of shouldn't It's kind of his off-speed pitch But he's 50% fast 12, 17% cutter so. And it seems like all of these guys hit fastball.

So I don't know. Do those guys stick with it? Are they bailing from their normal plan to go more off speed? Orchiti normally doesn't walk people. Is he attacking these Red Sox hitters? He kind of have to be a complete sicko to do that at this point. You got to pitch around Kike. Can we do that tonight, Astros?

He's already hit it off the monster. and Fenway's going nuts. James, give me a line on Bregman to Homer tonight and then take that line. So they don't, like they don't have it as one. I'd have to have him homering twice. What? Because they have it as one and a half. Homer is Jesus Christ.

Yeah. What's wrong? Right now I'm looking at out's recorded for Erod. And what's 12? and a half. Four innings. Four innings. Four point one.

Four point oh five. So if I think he's going to get... He's going to get us to runs, but they might make sure he goes that long. That's kind of what happened. That's what happened in the last series. Cora's a sicko, dude. Cora said before his last start against the race,

like he is not an opener. He's not going three. He's a starting pitcher. We're going to get as many out of him as possible, and he rewarded them. He went five. He went five that game. I have the Bregman to Homer line.

Bregman to Homer? Plus 500. Oh, take it. Where are you finding that? In the game, player props, the tab that's just home runs. You can go home run and team to win, if you believe in the Ashos to win tonight. But it's not that much more of an odds boost.

I'd probably just stick with the homer. All right. How about this one? We each, the four of us, we each get one. who has their home run taken away by the monster tonight. Who do you got? JD.

Okay. That's a good pick. Thanks. It's a home run taken away? Taken away by the monster. I think Kyle Tucker might, I think Kyle Tucker might like pop one up and it goes off the monster. Lefties love to mash that monster.

I have nine bets placed right now. I need a tenth. Obviously, I'm not going to leave it at nine. I'll go Yulee. I'll go Yulee. that's a good one like a low fucking minor just a fucking seed right into the monster

stop cussing sorry bdd and I'll take pregnant we have him in the homer draft okay so we'll just that's what happens have our soul oh you guys have him am I part I don't know what team I'm on the homer draft Jose Altuva to steal a base is plus

800 done taking it dollar dollar I have 10 one dollar bets on the board we'll track them on tonight so the most i can the most i can lose is ten dollars the most i can win is eight plus five is thirteen plus seven is twenty plus two twenty two two twenty two twenty four twenty three and uh like thirty five bucks so you know that's gambling what else got man that is that money on there

think that's it we're streaming the night with Kelsey winger let's go who's winning tonight go quick who's winning tonight go quick who go go stro's 10 10 9 Jake sucks Stroes early lead

Red Sox make it close at the end 7 6 Astros Wow plumes of smoke