Talkin' Baseball (MLB Podcast) - 438 | Mets Hire Buck Showalter

Episode Date: December 20, 2021

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Hello and welcome to talking baseball. Buckshaw Walter is the new Metskipper, the lockout. They locked out to lockout for a little bit. We're going to talk all about that as well. Let's do it. And we're all wearing blue. Hello and welcome to talking baseball. Buckshaw, Walt, punch yourself.

Hello. Welcome to talking baseball presented by Draft Kings. My name is Jimmy sitting next to me is Jake in California. We got Trevor Plouffe. and behind the dish producer BBD. Back talking baseball. The last person that sat in this seat during the show was so much taller than me and better at pitching.

And I hope you guys enjoyed him because I am back. Short, dumpy, and I didn't even get a tan, even though I was in Puerto Rico. Anyway, Jake, how are you doing? Jimmy, Trevor, BBD, everyone in the, the chat j p crawford moms uncles cousins santa claus wow especially especially mrs claus yeah you know trev happy what she wearing under there don't talk about her like that but she would be an all-time pull um happy honda days to everyone uh as we enter kind of the final two

weeks of the year, Trev. Almost 2022 prediction festival year. Talking about this one? For the whole company. I am talking about that, Mrs. Claus. Mm-hmm. That dress. And yeah, excited. You know, it feels like we've got a full house again. Fucking Jimmy hit it on the nose. Jerry Blevins last week felt like we had an avatar in the office. Just like differently built.

Is he really tall? I mean, he's just six, four and like long and lefty. Six-four? Yeah. Oh, fuck. Yeah, so it was, uh, and contrast to we only hire people under 5-8. So it felt like we had a, just like, it felt like we met a UFO and it's like, this is nice. How come I always picture him on a horse? Because he's on a horse a lot.

Is he, though? He's got a little bit of a Lord of the Rings vibe to him. Treve, happy 20 years anniversary, yeah. Tell us more about it. I was at the opening, the midnight showing of the first Lord of the Rings, the Fellowship movie saw on December 19th as midnight struck. I was in the theater watching it. Honestly, it was like the best movie experience I've ever had. That's pretty cool.

You know, I had like black hair. I was a punk rock at the time. That kind of like changed my attitude. I was a little bit more in tune with my feelings after that movie. A lot of things happened. You walked out of there and you went straight to the bathroom and washed out the black hair. eye and you said, I'm going to start being myself. It was permanent, but I did end up growing my hair out after that because I wanted to be

like Erigorn. And so I had like black tips in the rest of my hair, which is like brown like the rest of mine. It's badass, like chocolate tint hair. That's cool, man. That's really cool. BPD, how are you? BD has got a new apartment.

Yes. Moved like a week ago. City guy. Big city rat. Hmm. That's it. That's all? That's all?

This weekend. Wow. Making Jake and Trev both very jealous. I like your friendship with that. Yeah. I'm not jealous of it. I do too. I'm not jealous of it either because I'm in it.

Support it. Okay. You guys want to talk about Buck Showalter a little bit? Sure do. The Mets hired him, Trev. Did you hear about this? I did hear about it. I got some things to say about it.

I'm sure you guys too. But first, James, what do we got? Well, something that I'm sure I would bet. good money Buck does not use and he needs to start. It's the Manscaped lawnmower 4.0.

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shipping. They got the lawnmower 4.0. It's there. It's here to take down every pub in its path, it says. Buck Showalter, I mean, just, you have to start the conversation that he got his nickname Buck because in the minor leagues he would walk around Buck naked and they started calling him Buck. That's the reason this gentleman is referred by the known world as Buck is because he was a nudist in the locker room. So, because he put it on display, Jake, I think you might be thinking he did manscape himself. he's a detail-oriented fella

so for him to have his downstairs area not cleaned up that would shock me so I think Buck is a manscape guy I am taking a look at young Buck some pictures this guy he definitely walked around a nude in the clubhouse

the guy was very confident I can just tell by his little smirk kind of a thick boy too yeah yeah he's listed at nine and I think there's an emphasis on the nine if you know what I'm saying. Nine inch leaner, is that you're saying? Manscaped, go talking.

Anyway, I like this higher. It was, uh, Trev, I'll let you go first because I have some thoughts, but you said you had thoughts and I want to hear. Also, the chat is telling me I have to ask about your shower trick. Should we get that over with? Oh. Yeah, you know, I thought that would be turned into a social media clip, but maybe Kyle thought it was a little too risque. I think you specifically said not to. Oh, I might have to.

That could also be. And it tied into, when you say didn't get to social media, I tagged you in a picture of art this weekend. Oh, but penises. I'd like to hear the trick. You sure would. Abstract penis is, or tough for me, I guess. I don't know.

All right, here's the trick, James. I had a guy, I'm going to do it quick because our listeners already heard. There's a guy. We're talking about showering and all this good stuff. We had a guy that would come in, and one of his tricks would be, he'd get naked. He'd have to go, he'd have to urinate.

And he would hold the top and then go creating what, James? What does that happen? It creates pressure. Super Soaker, yeah. And then he would just go, like, really try to push it out but hold it in. And then eventually he'd just let his hand go. Yeah, yeah. And try to hit the ceiling with his pee.

Like a whirling board. That was a game he plays. Yeah. You kinked the end of that hose. if things are going to be spitting. So that's it. That's all that's cool. It's a skill.

Yeah. Well, it hurts a lot. I'm not going to name his name. Put on himself through a lot of pain. Story Ellie. Yeah. It was fun. You know,

sometimes we'd rally around that, like a couple days. You'd have a week stream and then we'd be worried. Jake, I'd just be worried about how much range you have like in the full flinging of it. It'd hurt something. I'd hurt something. I'd hurt something inside.

My friends would do that in high school. they would have a who can pee over the fence contest And their strategy for doing it would be to hold it in pee And then go who And then it was incredible My two friends It was incredible This fence was like 10 feet high

And they'd go arching over it When we were drinking in high school And I just didn't understand any of the physics Or like how the human body could do it But one kid was my height 5-7 p 10 feet high Because that's what he would do That's incredible Anyway Buck Showalter

Walser naked guy Thanks for sharing your shower trick What are your thoughts on Buckin hired by the Mets? I like it. And I talked about this before. All the guys they were interviewing were, I thought Espada and Buck were the two guys that made sense. I think I championed for Espada a little bit just because

it seems like everyone wants to, you know, take from the Ray's tree and the Astros tree. I know that was it Quattaro? I'm not sure I'm saying that name, right. He was also in the running. But Espada, you know, he just. seem like if you're going to start this whole thing, it'd be nice to start with a guy like that.

But Buck also fits in like the, I think Buck's more like we're ready to go now. We want a manager that's been in the playoffs. Or has he done a lot in the playoffs? I don't know. He's been in the playoffs, obviously. They wanted the experience. And they got experience.

And they have a guy that knows how to handle the media and big personalities and all that stuff. So I think this was the safe choice. I think it's a really good choice. I love Buck. I've had excellent experiences with him. I know all the guys that have played with him really respect him. Our friend Britt Garali wrote a great article,

and there's some really fascinating quotes from Flaherty, who is coach in San Diego, and also Machado, grew up under Buck. So there's some really cool stuff there. It's a good, safe hire. I think even Scherzer was, saying he wanted Buck. I don't know how much that

played into the decision. But, you know, I'm looking now at Buck's Wikipedia, AL manager of the year in 94, 2004, in 2014. That's a long time doing this shit. So from what I've heard, you know, people are going to say he's old.

We're looking to have an analytically driven franchise now, how is Buck can handle it? But it doesn't, it's just about being able to communicate people get so caught up in like these analytics being so in depth and so hard to understand. It's like it's baseball. And these numbers and the data just helps you get a little bit better at baseball. Buck just,

he'll be able to communicate it just fun. I'm curious to see who's going to be on his staff, all that good stuff. But my grade, so I'm going to give a grade. I'm going to force you guys to give a grade at a 10. Okay, grades out of 10. Eight and a half.

I think it's really good. I might even go 89, 8.9. So that's 899. That's a B plus. Is that A minus? Well, some places round up. Yeah, we're... The high school Jake went to that I went to for two years.

If you got a 94.6, that was an A plus. It was so crazy. I was like, this is awesome. Every other school in America, that's just an A. In... To round things out, I like the higher. Okay. Joe Espada, ever the bride's made, never the bride.

I mean, I think this is like the sixth position where he was like, you know, the number two. Well, I don't know if he's ever going to get past that. What's so dumb is you have to have experience. Well, how am I supposed to get experience if no one will hire me because I don't have experience? That happened to me at Mrs. Fields cookies back in the day, whatever. It's not a big deal. Tough. Jake, what are your thoughts?

Love Buck. Love Buck. very jealous of what the Metropolitan's have been a part of this offseason so far, whether the signings or Buck Showalter, he did some MLB Network stuff, he did some Yes Network stuff with the Yanks, and it was always delightful.

I mean, you almost, you kind of come in with your shoulder up when you hear, you know, 65-year-old Buck Showalter talking baseball. You almost have this natural instinctual reaction being a young fan to be like, oh, what? What am I about to hear? Is he going to get, oh, he didn't, that guy didn't run out to first? Like, Buck is not that guy. And Trev, you mentioned communication.

It's also adapting when you mentioned the years Buck Showalter's been a head coach. And if you bring up analytics and stuff like that, Buck coached in 2018. So it's not like he's jumping into a whole new world. This isn't LaRosa. So I love Buck, man. There's almost every time he talks about actually playing baseball, he says something that I haven't thought of before and I mean if you really want to get romantic about it

Jack Curry who's a beatwriter for the Yankees he said whenever Buck was in studio he would stand and watch the whole game he's just got that too much too much manager in him can't sit down and watch the game and by the way I kind of don't like that that's the only thing about Buck I'd put in the no list

I'd be like dude sit down man enjoy it but apparently he's just wired that way he's up for it and yeah I guess for me, this already mentally happened. Because when you think about all the players involved, whether Cohen Shurs or I don't think he had a final vote, but I think he had a little bit of a Caesar's thumb. And, you know, if those guys wanted Buck Showalter,

they were going to get Buck Showalter. I love him. I love him. How much money is this guy going to make? That's what I want to know. Did Uncle Steve put the checkbook up? At least because Art Howe got the highest contract at 9. Something-mill deal.

10 of a year? No, it might be overall. They said it's the highest overall contract since Art Howe. And he got 9 mil. And I think it's leaked buck got three years. Three for three, something like that. Yeah. So I bet it's higher than that.

Might be 10, 10 mil or over three years. It can't be that high. They don't get that great. Andrews don't get paid anymore. when you want a guy like Buck. Well, no one wanted Buck. That's the thing that I find super interesting because every sports league is a copycat league. Buck was around when they hired Beltron.

He's been around. He's been trying to get jobs. Like we also know that from, you know, his days with the Yes Network and just asking him. Like, no, he's going to, like, we were told he's going to manage again. Like he wants to manage again. He's just at Yes Network and do an MLB in the meantime. But he wanted jobs. He's been trying to get jobs.

So he's been getting passed up on. And I think, Dusty Baker. and Tony Larusa have swayed the copycat league a little bit. And that's what I was saying in the playoffs when they played against each other. I said when they played against each other, that Buck's going to get hired now because people are seeing these old school managers lead teams to the postseason because the front office just they can do the stats. Like you still need the discipline of a manager.

I mean, you see that with Jay Stingler in San Diego where he didn't have control of the room. Like Buck's going to have control of this room. and he's going to kind of, you know, whether you hate that or like that as a player or think it's real or not, he's going to walk around and get a little bit of respect that we were having this whole wave of that doesn't matter, where, you know, Boone gets mad. He was never even a bench coach. Rossi, never even anything. Tingler was never a manager or, you know, quality control coach.

Beltron was never a manager even in a clubhouse. And that was the copycat league. And I wonder, moving forward from after Beltron, and you saw Padres go get Melvin, like I wonder if we've now spun back into no. You need a manager who's been a baseball guy and has been in clubhouse and gone up the system and been a manager for a while or something like that.

I'm interested, do any teams still have openings? The A's. Or they hired Cotsay. Yeah, if that's not official yet. But I'm interested. And he's another of the old school ilk. So that's, you know. But yeah, I'm interested to see the next team that's, you know,

a postseason hopeful. What way they go? Do they go? The young don't need experience. Just need to be able to like be a good guy in the clubhouse and get along with the guys. Or they go, you know, Dusty Baker, Lewis, kind of an older head, gray hair that's going to demand respect and kind of like, because I think we just sought switch.

I was having that same thought process. And I do think, and Trev, you know, we're probably going to land here at some point. So much of it depends on the team. Like there's so much the ballplayers actually involved that are going to dictate your record at the end of the day. Like if Buck gets 60 starts out of Scherzer and de Grom, yeah, I bet the Mets are going to look pretty good. He gets 20 starts out of Scherzer and to Grom. He's not going to look so good. And then I was thinking about those young coaches and, you know, Rossi.

I mean, Boone's kind of an interesting one because the records. It's incredible, but a lot of Yankee fans aren't in on them. But like Kevin Cash, you could put him in the crop of young coaches. Gabe Kapler, I mean, that's a young guy coach. So it's... Yeah, I don't really mean young. I think at the end of the day, like you're saying, it's a pendulum. There's a correction and there's an overcorrection.

It goes back and forth. I think it's A, being the right guy. If you hire a gray that's disconnected, like, I think the guys we just mentioned. LaRuce is a Hall of Fame, or I know he's got his other shit that we like to make fun of them because it's easy for. Dusty Baker is like one of the most beloved dudes to ever be in this sport. Buck Showalter, I think, is one of the most respected dudes to ever be in this sport. And so when you're relating that to the old guys and young guys, at the end of the day, almost like any job, like find the right person.

Well, to go off that Bochy and Sosha, both have said they didn't retire. They stepped away. Oh, they'll be back. So that's like, you know, Buck couldn't find a job for a little bit. I wonder if those two if they officially say, I'm ready to come back. if it's like, hey, we want you. I'm curious if teams are pinching pennies as much as we think they are, like not wanting to spend money, trying to save 500 grand here, a million dollars here,

maybe that was the thought process behind hiring all these young guys. Like, hey, we have a front office that's assembled. Here's what we're going to do. Here's, this is what we want our manager to do. Why do we need to pay a guy four million bucks when we can go get a young guy who, you know, always been around baseball obviously knows the game we can pay that guy a million bucks so now we're saving two million bucks and we either pocket it or do something else with it i do believe like that was kind of the case and then now we've just seen because you guys know how i feel about this

the record is most likely gonna be the record like how many games can a manager win or lose in a season it's not many if any like the team has to go do it but you do it but you do do need someone, in my opinion, what makes a manager a good manager is just consistency. Like he needs to be there every day and establish what he expects from the team from day one. If you get a guy who panics during the middle of season and you have a series where your team makes four heirs and maybe one of them is at a crucial time and he lose a ball game, nobody wants a manager who the next series is like early outs and ground balls for everybody it's like no dude you better be doing that from the get go or not at all if you're not going to do it don't be reactionary we need you to be constant and i think when you're a young manager there's you probably tend

and you don't have a lot of managerial experience you probably tend to be more reactionary and the guys like a buck who've seen everything they're just more calming and if you're like i said if you're a front office who's like, hey, we are, this is what we want to do with the team. We don't need anybody rocking the boat. We need the steady the shit. And I think that's what these guys will bring. And they have to be willing now. I think this is probably the biggest caveat for Sochas and, and who else did you say?

A Bochi. They have to be willing, if they're going to come back in the game and be that steadying presence, they have to be willing to accept the fact that like they are not going to be making a ton of these decisions. The decisions will be made for them essentially. And that's, I think that's tough for some of them to let go of that, that decision making. It's true. But you get the job, so put up with it.

The NLE East now has a pretty good crew of managers. You got Don Maddenly, you got Gerardi, you got Showalter, you got Davey Martinez, won a World Series recently. You got SNIT, won a World Series recently. Very recently. Man, you did. I see in the chat we're talking Boone is the one putting those

lineups together that didn't make sense, also giving the hot bat the day off. Was Boone you making the lineups was it getting sent down? No. Boone doesn't make the line up? They had a good they had a good phrase that they developed that was like Boone writes the lineup but it's discussed as part of a group.

So literally Boone's Penn, I think there's a chance. The Yankees, like, they have a, they vote. It's like a 10, like they, I mean, they talked about it. It goes to a vote. It's like 10 votes? Yes, and we heard this from some people's work. What? Yes.

On a lineup every day? That would, like, playoff lineups and, like, the wildcard lineup came down to, like, all the scouts and analytics, like they all, they get a say. And we heard it. about this firsthand about some of like the playoff rosters. Like we asked why did you take this guy over that guy and they said he won the vote in the room, which is a lot of people say like a bad way to lead. Like you have to make a decision.

But Boone's not making the lineups. No, he's not like. Travis, you were you played for managers, right? And you know that or you've seen situation. I've seen both sides. I've seen both sides. I've seen garden hire, you know, and the coaching staff that was with him, right? lineups and be like hey man like i'm putting you here and and like how much front office influence

was there like maybe a little bit and then it went shifted to moleter where malder was like kind of he had enough respect in that building where it was like they still balanced each other and then when i went to oakland you know i love bow mel i think he's like the perfect like steady ship guy he would explain him all the time like look man i want to play you here but this is what's going on this is what they sent down. And if I don't do it, I'm going to get a call. And he's like, I just, he's like, I can't fight it. Like, this is the way it is here. So he communicated that. But yeah, he was not making the decisions. The part that's interesting to me, and I think comes up when we talk a lot of the managerial stuff, is like there, it's a lot like any

relationship. Like, there's got to be a certain amount of trust there. There's got to be a certain amount of respect, which, again, the overlying thing for me, and I know, you know, sometimes we get Metsy over here as a joke. Again, they pretended a raccoon got in a fight in their clubhouse. They had a fake hitting coach this year. Things can get Metsy quick. Buck, like, Buck helps

change the image. Like, and hey, I know I just made some jokey, silly stuff that, again, was very real in Metsworld this year. But, you know, they had the Porter thing happened last year and all that stuff. Like, Buck's going to come in, and I think throughout that organization, like, he's He's the figurehead.

Bucks, not only is he respected in baseball, he's also like, he's a big character to a degree. Like, he was in Seinfeld, like, Bucks. Buck's a big deal that I think helped shape that organization. But when you're getting to decision making, he was in Sineveld. He was, dude. I know, like, think about that. Like, talk to your relatives that aren't into baseball, like, anymore. They're older.

They don't care. Like, they know who Buck is. America used to watch Seinfeld. So, I don't know. They're just, Treve, you're right. I mean, the nerds, and we say that in an endearing way, they took over. Joe Tori, his last contract was three years, 19.2 million. He turned down a one per five, and then he was out of there.

All the coaching contracts have gone down because the analytics say, we're going to push the buttons, you just need to be there and kind of babysit. they just got too far away from it that the manager has a responsibility past that and they need to be on the pulse of their team. And you need to be able to exchange information information back and forth. And if, you know, kind of what you're saying with Bowman, like he knew what he signed up for in Oakland. That was part of the deal and that's fine.

But, you know, there has to be able to have a back and forth where it's like, hey, let me try this. Okay. If that doesn't work, you need to do this, whether that's coming. from the manager or the analytics guy. So interested to see how it plays out as always. Buck, man. It's a delight to listen to.

Let's get naked. Can I say one thing about Buck? Yeah. He respects the uniform. Like, Buck is going to come out in full uniform 95% of the time, and I respect that. Like, he wears the stirrups. Buck's got, he's put on the uniform.

Like, he's walked into his closet to get dressed for today, put on the uniform, just stood in it for like 30 seconds, took it off, put on whatever he was supposed to wear it. And he doesn't tell anyone that he does that. His wife caught him once and she was like, well, you must really miss it, Buck, huh? I got to get back. You know, like the pants that Harper wears,

like the little three-quarters thing? Yeah. Like, that's Buck. Buck. That's Buck's look, Bryce, okay? Buck thinks that, he said that you can tell a guy if his butts high up,

that means he's fast. Yeah, high butt. I've heard that. Yeah. Never passed on a high ass. that's that's scouting lingo I'm being scared scouting like a money ball

scouting lingos the best man I'm gonna test you guys I'm gonna test you guys greasy hips I'm gonna test you guys on so much stuff I'm gonna put these two to the test after this quick break you believe it

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All right. Let's put you guys to the test. Are you ready? Trev's gone. Trev doesn't look as ready. I looked up from the ad read and his face was gone. I kind of did the same thing. That was good.

Yeah. It's getting good at that. Disappearing out. Wow. All right. Let's hear the test, man. No, no, no. Trev's taking the test as well.

It's the same time test. You've seen that video where they put the blanket over the, the little girl, like the family, and then they pull the blanket off, then they act like she's invisible. Like, where'd she go? And then they're like, they like play it real serious.

Like, where are you? And the girl starts crying because she thinks she's invisible. I don't know if I've seen that. It's a funny viral video. Actually kind of sad. What if that's Trev right now? What if he's screaming?

I'm right here. I'm right here. I'm right here. Thought about doing that to my neat nephew, but I feel like it's mean. I think it over that stuff. That doesn't stand. Sometimes, though.

Unless it's viral on the internet. No, no when to, you know, tell the truth. My little brother, Luke, he's so bad. He lets every prank go that one beat longer than it should. We're like, like... It enters the mean kid. Like, where he... It's just like, hey, you can't come back now.

Because they're actually mad. Yeah. Like, he doesn't say, just joking. He always... Since he was like, a little kid, just always one beat too late. I'm like, dude, now you're in it. That's the trick, though. Yeah.

I mean, Trev said give me two minutes via text. So like... So Jake's getting put to the test. So I'm getting put to the test. BPD can help you. No, computers down. Okay. You're never going to guess what I'm doing.

Can I keep this? I have we rate dogs up on my screen right now on my Twitter feed. Can I leave that up? Yes. Okay. What are you rating those dogs? They rate the dogs. They got a 14 out of 10.

Does every dog get higher than out of 10? Usually. They should, I mean, they should be honest. Usually. I'm into an honest dog. operating system. What if it is on it? All right. One, two, three. I will put two minutes on the clock. Yes. BPD, Jake, time to test the gang. Name every manager.

Name every manager? Yeah. Show, Walter. Let's go. The American League first. Boone, Cora, Cash. Do you want me to give you a team? Hide. Hide. All right. Orioles. Hide. What's his? Red Sox. We already got them. White Sox. Larusa. Indians.

We missed the Blue Jays guy. Who's the nice guy? Oh. Montoya. Montoya. Are I involved in this? Yes. Name every manager.

Incona. Tigers. Hinch. Astros. Dusty. Jake, what happened? I froze. Believe in him.

Kansas City Royals. Is that Methini? Oh, it is. Yes. When they got. Angels. Madden. Madden.

He's disappeared. The lights in Anaheim are the dimest in the world. People go there and then you just forget they exist in baseball. That's bizarre. I think Madden proves my point more than anybody. It's like rock star in Anaheim, or excuse me, rock star in Tampa. Then you send him over to the Angels who are the best player of all time, maybe the best two players of all time. I don't know.

And you can't get into playoffs. It's like, it's not his fault. I'm just Exactly. That's my point. Otani's breaking. Otani's taller than the lights. That's why you can see him.

Twins. Morocco. Come on, man. Now, BBD and Jake already answered this, Trev, so I'm going to need you to answer this one. Yankees. Boone. Nice.

A's. Cotsay. It says here vacant. Kind of. Okay. Mariner. Cussie. Service.

Servius. Do you know it? Service, I would say. Okay. It is spelled servicers. Rays? I think it's service. Cash.

Cash. Rangers. Woodward. Woodward. Wow. Good job. B.BD. easiest lips to read.

You did the Blue Jays. Okay, National League. Diamondbacks. Let's go snakes, baby. Lavello. Terry. Be careful. I'm having dinner at his house.

Yeah. Braves. Snit. Snit. Cubs. Rossi Rossi Rossi still there

Yeah It's one year right Two years Two I think One and a half COVID Reds Ooh

Oh Bryce First name David First name is David It's a pitcher David Bell Yes Rockies

Bud Black Been there for a while Yeah They like them No one cares Rockies don't One of the better gifts Dodgers

Dave Roberts Marlins Don Baddingley Donny Brewers Craig counsel council Mets

Show Walter Buck Buck Is his name Big Dick Buck Or no Yeah BBD

BBD BDB BDB That's hard BDB BDB Fills Girardi

Joe Pirates Pirates This is I'll ask a fair question. Pirates manager, Treff. We were there this year. No notes.

I'm looking at the dog again, 14 out of 10. I'll give you one hint if you need it. Clint Hurdle. No, he's... He replaced him. He has my dream job. He's been there that long. It's not Lloyd MacLendon.

Through the bag. John Ryan Murphy told us he liked him. I do like it, you like him. I don't know A sad day to day Do you want to call up Co talk and see if he knows him

Cole? Col's got to know right He looks to me like Giambi sometimes Oh I know I know I know I know I know I know I know he used to have a hitting Fuck he had hitting commercials With the Reyes I accidentally looked at the chat Derek Shelton Shelty Did you look at the chat Trev

No, I remember Don't you remember the hitting videos of Sheltie? I don't. I don't. I didn't watch those a lot. Shelty. Shelty's the big loser of the... Treve always says, no, I never met him.

All right. What about the Cardinals? Fuck. Oh. They just hired the new guy. Ali Marmel. Bad ass. First name I couldn't think of.

Oliver. Oh, yeah. That doesn't seem like a real name. Ollie? Ollie Marmalli. No, when you combine. I don't think of Carlos Marmal. Yeah, it sounded like Jay just said.

Baw-B-B-B-B-A-B-A-L. It feels like it's a book character. That's how I talk to my baby. A-Bau-Bau-Bow-Bow-B. And the quarterback for the other team is Oli-Marmal. Oh, wow, this is a book. Baudres. Baudre's Jace.

Well, no. No, B-M-L. Oh, Jake was just saying that Jace was. Now Bob Melvin, sir. Correct. Not B-M-L-M-L. What's Jace doing now? Crying.

No, he's going to get it. He's really upset He hasn't got, he's sad He's gonna, oh, that's right, He's with the twins now And I have to probably see him I think we've talked a lot of smack We haven't talked that much smack

I just said he was sad Giants manager Treb's best friend Gabe Nationals manager It's David Martinez So the biggest loser Sheltie

Sorry Sheltie That's not his fault They've been trying to weird No I mean It's not his fault Him Woodward and Tingler are all kind of the same guy in my head by look. That's not his fault, but I mean, of the exercise, he was the big loser.

That's all. We played this game once a year ago, not on a show, and service was the loser. Yeah. And I've remembered it since. Mariners got some love, though. Okay, the other conversation we were going to have was just a little update on the lockout and kind of the news that they have. And Trev, he said that.

Yeah. Awesome. It's time. All right, Trev, what are your tidbits? Did he just say he's probably taking a shit? Yes. He's not going to show you his bits. He's probably taking a shit.

That's weird. I never noticed that lyric. And now I'm like, I don't love that lyric. But. Bubak, thank you for that. Yes. Here's my update. Nothing is happening.

Fuck. The reports are they met on non-core stuff. What does that even mean? Jake? What are you going to meet as gameplay, right? Like rules of the game, like DH, that stuff, not business. No money. I guess economics is the, yeah, that's the main topic here.

So they met on a few of those, but very briefly, and then they're taking this week off since Christmas week, and then they'll probably take New Year's week off, even though, guess what, people. There's these things called computers, and you can tuck through them for an hour a day at home and get some stuff done, get the ball rolling. Why do we have to wait till the 11th hour to be doing this stuff?

You force the lock out. Now you're saying, let's lock the lockout out, because Santa's coming. Who cares about Santa Claus? We only care about Mrs. Claus. That's my update. There's nothing happening. It'll be January 17th before we even hear anything good.

And then February will come around. Everyone will be scared. Why'd you pick January 17th? Yeah, why did you choose the 17th as the day? I don't know. I choose the 7. I choose 7 or like 27, 30th. And the integer 7 is the end number whenever I think of a random number.

To the point where I'm like, my brain isn't that random. It's the number 7. It's like my placeholder. January 17th is my sister's birthday. So thank you for the... I care about Santa Claus. Didn't seem like it. You laid it on pretty thick.

I don't care about it, but it's not good behavior. I'm sorry, Santa. Thank you. I'm so sorry. I'm kind of am Santa Claus. James, you're kind of Santa Claus now. It's really intriguing if you think about it that way. Oh, yeah.

My baby didn't know anything, though. You know some things. Seas lights. He likes shadows and lights. He probably doesn't even know it if you ask them. Probably like, I don't know. They're like black and white stuff Dude he doesn't talk

Are Joe's Mcfly Jam Gaming Yankees content Pinstripe Strange He uh strong He He's been all over this from the start He called the previous article that came out

That they're done They're done meeting through the holidays About the important stuff Which basically means they left a couple guys behind To like Should the pitch clock be 25 or 24 seconds? And it's like, well, we're not going to listen to any of this. But yeah, I think this is a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity for them.

And again, this is stolen from Joe's to take two months off. We literally can't work. Whoops. We're going to take December through January off. And, like, end of January, it'll start coming back. You'll hear some rumblins. But, yeah. I mean, both sides still think it's going to get done, which is shocking.

So they're just going to take a little vacation, bump uglies for a little bit. What are you talking about? Last year, they were taking vacation at this point. They don't need any more vacation. Rob Manfred gets paid so much freaking money. Like, get your little booty to the negotiating table. We don't need to take time off right now unless you're just trying to. pause so we can get less games during the season, which is, you know, very much a reality.

I don't like it. It actually makes me very upset. You don't think that it's a good sign. You don't think it's a good sign that we are not in a war via media. Once that starts coming, it's a bad sign. But like every time someone writes about the lockout or the negotiations, we're not, point in fingers yet and that means that things can't be going terrible or just or it just means like they're saying like they haven't started talking about the things that are going to go

terrible which that's very upsetting harder that's the problem did they say there did they say they haven't talked about the uh the economics of it yet or do they say they're pausing the economics so they have they have started those right we're assuming because if they're like they've been they've been trying to do this since last off season this is not just like they just like they just started talking about the CBA and the this has been an ongoing discussion that's literally gotten nowhere so everyone just needs uh USA versus Ireland Wednesday at 2 Eastern cricket 2nd cricket you're in you're a full-fledged cricket account uh you don't even care about baseball Twitter polls because you were a cricket account yeah according to you um but yes that is true

that is true One, I like cricket Two, I don't like those polls So everything is correct What else does What else do these two sides have to do right now? Seriously Joy the holidays

Someone needs to Can I, I guess there's not that many baseball leagues And they're also licensed out Because someone needs to make a TV channel Like they have for cricket So there's this channel called Willow TV And it just has like the Australian League, the Sri Lanka League, the random exhibition matches between

countries, it'll have the Indian League, just games on. If the games happening, they just show it. I'd love to check out like the Mexican League and Venezuelan League and Dominican League and even like in Japan and Taiwan. But you have to like go so many different places. Someone should come up with a conglomerate. And I bought it on my cable. So I can stream it on my laptop or my computer,

but I can also just go to the channel that's on my actual cable feed of my TV, so it's not glitchy or delayed. They should make that for baseball. Take all the leagues by the rights and then I sell a package. I could be mistaken. I think this year, like the Dominican League was added to MLB TV. Someone can correct that. It was?

At least one of them was. I think so. I remember Kyle and I were talking about it when it was announced at first. That's cool. So at least some of them, they're getting there. because then I just put that channel on in the background. I just watch all the baseball leagues all day. You're a cricket guy. I like that.

Have you noticed, James, now that we're a cricket pod, have you noticed different style of play throughout different regions? Like if you see an Asian ball player, their mannerisms are different. If you see a Dominican ball player, I can tell a difference. Well, a lot of the game. Mostly in how they pitch. It's a lot of the gameplay. There's all these different leagues that have different parameters that merit,

different styles of pitching and hitting. Like test cricket is the one where it's really, you have to watch it with the pitching brain. Like you're rooting, like the offense is just trying to survive. They're not trying to swing big at all. But then like the T20, there's a limited amount of pitches of using baseball terms that they face. So the batters just have to get, they can't just survive

because they have to put the ball in play and they have to swing big, which makes it much more. more likely that they're going to get out. So it's cool because it's more the, I'm sure there are, but I don't have the eye for it, like different styles from different regions. But it's more the type. Then there's like one day cricket, which is like a blend. Then they tried to make this new league that's really short and you got to swing big and

you got to risk it now. But that's where like the change in style comes. And it's cool because in cricket you have to be able to like, if you can be a test cricket player and a T20 player, that means you're double skilled. You're almost like a two-way, like the Australian national team has some guys that play on all versions, and then they have some that are only here and only there because they're particular skills. Yeah, which is cool.

It'd be like if they made like a three-inning game. You're like, all right, well, relievers are out. And we need guys who are good. Or they're all in. Or they're all in. Yeah, yeah. We need guys in the first, you know, that can hit home runs because you're probably not going string together a lot of rallies over three innings.

Probably just one home run and it's worth a lot more than three hits. All right. How do we get here? I'm talking about something. I don't know how we got there. You brought up the poll and then as a cricket guy. Oh, I said that if what are you going to do, there's no sports. Well, everyone can watch the USA versus Ireland.

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I think that's the episode. Talked all about it. We named every manager. Take that. What else do we need to talk about? Let me clear my Santa. Oh, my goodness. Like, I enjoy Christmas in the festivity and family and Santa is part of that, okay?

We have elves on the shelves. We have two of them. That is, I can enjoy that because I'm not the commissioner of baseball. Okay? Commissioner of baseball gets paid a lot of money. Sit down and have some talks. So, Rob, that's my only stance. I took it out on Santa.

I didn't mean to do that. I'll accept that apology. That seemed a little more genuine. What's BPD stance on Santa? As someone who doesn't celebrate Christmas, do you kind of just hate the guy? It's fine. You know, they use a creep. Yeah.

I don't care about it. It's not good behavior. Last three people to play Spider-Man and their romantic in the movie have started dating. Really? Yeah. Hell of a streak. Kirsten Dunson and Toby McGuire? Yeah.

They dated. Dated. Tom Holland and... Zendaya? Zendaya. Andrew Garfield and Emma Stone. Who's Zendaya. Oh.

All right. Thanks for listening. Wow. We will be back in five minutes to talk about the Adam Fraser trade. Until then, thank you for tuning in. Baby Cros for baby. Congrats. He got married.

He's got service. It should be serving. Tom Holland's name doesn't suit him. Jake sucks. It's some cuter. Timothy Shalemey's still the hottest. Yeah, but he's a little bit of a prior.