Talkin' Baseball (MLB Podcast) - 439 | Your Team's No. 1 Christmas Wish

Episode Date: December 22, 2021

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Starting point is 00:00:02 Hello and welcome to talking baseball. Christmas is coming up. Everybody has a wish and we need to know what your fan base is wishing for from your team. Let's do it. Hello and welcome to talking baseball brought to you by Draft Kings. My name is Jimmy. We got Trevor in California. We got Jake in Manhattan and BBD in the Bronx.
Starting point is 00:00:36 A little triple remote episode. So be prepared for the internet bug to fight us. We got four different internets coming together and we're live streaming it. So it's going to crash at one point. Hopefully it's not brutal. Jake, how you doing? Sitting on the floor wearing a sweater that looks very similar to the couch. It does.
Starting point is 00:00:58 It does. It's made out of the couch. I skinned the couch this morning to make this. Move the blanket away and you might look like a floating head. You have a white blanket behind you. It's my back pillow. I'll do it. As Trev mentioned, I'm having a bad time over.
Starting point is 00:01:13 here. Got boosted this morning, threw a little bullpen cess yesterday. Whoops. So both arms are feeling it. Got to get ready for, you know, flitzball season, 22. We wrapped up the 2021 season.
Starting point is 00:01:33 And, man, we're wrapping up the whole year and we're wrapping up your team's Christmas list. We're back in five. No, I'm excited to yuck with the boys. When Trev busts out is two-four hat, that's when I know it's going to be a tasty day. Hey, so, you know, what's your hat about?
Starting point is 00:01:54 Me. So I'm excited. You know, you brought me to this point. Yeah. We were talking last night. We were both pumping each other's gas a little bit. And I said, you know what, today, it's not the 24th of December,
Starting point is 00:02:09 but it's close enough. and me and the 24th have a lot in common. Do you know what it is? It doesn't matter what you think it is. Don't worry about it. James, how are you doing? I'm doing good, man.
Starting point is 00:02:24 I love Christmas. Christmas week is really sneaking up. Really sneaking up on me. I haven't gotten my brother a present yet because I had something in mind and now it's kind of like not an option, but I still might try to run with it. But we actually exchanged those presents on Christmas Eve.
Starting point is 00:02:41 so I'm fine. But yeah, I'm gonna write him an IOU? No, probably just give him an empty box and say, give one of your dogs. Could? There's a limit.
Starting point is 00:02:59 There's a limit on the price. I'd have to like, you know, get that vetted out, like how much does my dog worth kind of like, you know, blue book for dogs.
Starting point is 00:03:06 Do they have that? That'd be a hilarious website. Of course they do. How old is it? Medical record. Like, Okay, your dog is worth 50 bucks. Like, oh, shit.
Starting point is 00:03:15 I mean, if there was a, if there was like a $30 limit on the gift, I mean, technically payment wise, like you've lost money on the dog. Like it's kind of worse negative, negative dollars. So I think that would play. Okay. Hmm. I'll ask Katie. Dogs are expensive.
Starting point is 00:03:35 Are they? Some. Like half. Okay. Sometimes you just find them. Does make for a great video. Oh, yeah. I love those things.
Starting point is 00:03:45 I did the pound route. I got two dogs in the pound. They're no longer with us, RIP. Hmm. Okay, so just to let everyone know, we got 88 voicemails from you guys. I appreciate it very much. That's awesome.
Starting point is 00:04:02 BPD appreciates it. Also, hate you guys because you had to sift through 88 different voicemails to find the top like 15 that could fit into our time frame here. I'm sure there's a lot of repeats, a lot of fan bases calling saying the same wish. So credit to Bebers for going through those and credit to our audience for giving us 88 different voicemails. That's awesome.
Starting point is 00:04:23 Thanks for engaging. Are you guys ready? Should we just jump in? Jake's not ready. Does anyone wear 88 in baseball? Is there any double eight? No. It's like a bat boy, BB, a pitcher.
Starting point is 00:04:40 We'll get our research team on it. I like it. double snowman I mean it's a huge football it's a huge hockey not so much basketball I guess dude I saw a guy playing defense yesterday with number
Starting point is 00:04:57 Billy Cock pardon me Billy Cock so Willie Cock Ward number 88 and Kyle Banks Bob Pantera guys we totally blanked on that chat helping us out
Starting point is 00:05:14 the chat is helping us out. What will we be without the chat and our fans? Nothing. Just absolute horseshit. I would just be a guy that blends in with his couch. Albert Bell listed as the best to ever wear number 88. Hmm.
Starting point is 00:05:33 He was good. Good one. We're number eight with the Indians and white socks. But in Baltimore, they couldn't wear eight, so we wore 88. Joey. Let's get all the double number sexy. I mean, Hank Aaron kind of wrapped up 44. Judge is doing a great job on 99 right now.
Starting point is 00:05:54 I think Gretzky kind of gets that one now. I think it kind of actually, I think it goes, Gretzky for you, judge. I wouldn't give it to Gretzky for baseball. I still would to be like, honest. Go. I think his son played minor league baseball. How about that? Who hasn't?
Starting point is 00:06:13 son-in-law is a pretty good golfer. Yeah. Let's go to the first voicemail. Well, we're starting off with a double. Okay. All right, what's going on talking baseball? Hey, my name's Tyler, and I'm an angel fan, and I've got to tell you the one thing that my team really wants this year is Carlos Rodon.
Starting point is 00:06:33 This guy can head a freaking rotation like nobody other. Last year, he just showed that he could be one of the best pitches in baseball, even though years prior he hasn't really been so. I think that he should be the first guy that the Angels would go for after the lockout, solidify the rotation, him, Otani, Sindegard, and Patty Sandoval will just be so good. Man, I just can't wait for this lockout to finally end, and we can finally see the Angels be as nasty as they can be.
Starting point is 00:07:00 People are underrating them, boys. All right, thank you guys. Jake sucks. Yes. What up, John Boy, Jake, BBD, Zach. How are you guys doing, Tread? I'm in South Orange County, big fan of the Angels here. My team, that's my boys. All right.
Starting point is 00:07:21 The whole offseason, I was saying that we should get Marcus Stroman. He went to the Cubs. That kind of pissed me off. He was a guy who pitches so many innings and is always healthy. And then we just didn't try. But I think the Angels should trade for Luis Castillo. I think he should be the best guy to help anchor the staff. and maybe if you got a few more bucks left over,
Starting point is 00:07:43 get a Rodana Kershaw, but I think Castillo is the biggest guy on the market the Angels can get. All right, thanks, guys. Adds up to give two. Thank you to the two guys that called in, representing the Angels, adds up. And I think, you know, last time we talked about the Angels
Starting point is 00:08:01 and I said, I thought they still needed more starting pitching. And I think a resident, Angel fan, Nate Steele, said that we do. He agreed. Because they have Lorenzen as a starter, but he's been a reliever. So they need a starter. Rodon, Castillo.
Starting point is 00:08:16 So that's good to know. Angels fans are still just looking out there. The Reds are going to trade Luis Castillo, right? Like they basically said they're trading everyone. Him and Sunny Gray. I'm in for it. I don't think they need one more starting pitcher. I think they need two more starting pitchers.
Starting point is 00:08:36 And I like both of those guys. I mean, if you, when you start to add depth like that, then we can start to wish upon your rotation and your season. Like, you know, Sindegarde is, I hope he comes out and is freaking awesome and lights out, but it's a question mark still. Patty Sandoval, I dig him. Got a couple of his rookie card, autos, my bad. So I'm wishing big things for him.
Starting point is 00:09:01 But yeah, Carlos Rodon, and you get Castillo in there to go along with Otan. The angels can hit. They can swing the bat. Like, this is obviously what they need. I'm proud of our fans. I think when we did our Halo's preview last year, we had some Angels fans get mad at us and be like, you know, stop with the starting pitching stuff.
Starting point is 00:09:26 Like, actually our guys are our guys. And I love you, but that wasn't right. And, you know, they go out and they've gotten Noah. And you're, you know, they do need to make, if they could sign one more guy, and I'm interested to see how the rest of the voicemails go, Carlos Rodon, man, he is sitting pretty because who knows what's going on with Kershaw? He's going to do whatever the hell he wants. Rodon is the best true free agent starting pitcher.
Starting point is 00:09:56 I mean, after him, you're looking at, like, Grinky, you're looking at Tyler Anderson. Like, he, uh, my guy's sitting pretty right now. I think he's going to get a big boy payday. five Cy Young last year. Lefty who pumps it. Let's go. I think with Rodan is he, I think is they, you know, they used him a lot earlier on. And I think the back half of the season, he averaged like four innings. He did get, um, you know, the white socks were competing and he, they did
Starting point is 00:10:29 non-tender him. And then they did sign him, but you want, you wonder about the shoulder and the innings and then the risk of having Cinderguard who you're, big time worrying about the show the innings and the arm and rodon and i'd like them to get a sure thing it sounds rude you know but um that's why i like i like kind of the second caller where he said like go get castillo and then go get um rodon or someone else in the back end because louise cassio has made 30 starts three of his last 12 well that in 2020 it was a half season. So I mean, he's he pitches.
Starting point is 00:11:16 And the results are always top line guy, three ERA. And he doesn't miss starts. So I'd like the angels to get another guy that like doesn't have any really lingering doubt on. Compete my compete thing. Like he's going to pitch majority of the games and he's going to give you a good outing. Because they still kind of have doubts. And then Rodan still comes with a little bit of that, Even though the pitches he did throw in the innings he did pitch last year were phenomenal.
Starting point is 00:11:45 It's just I think he really tapered down towards the end of last season. Do we have anybody else coming up, like prospect people that are supposed to do it for them? Where's our guy Nate Steele? Is he in our chat right now? I'm looking at their, you know, top prospects. Read Detmercy. He's a starter, right? He's a legit prospect, yep, but still very, like, fresh out of college.
Starting point is 00:12:09 Yeah. Well, you look, it's been their need for a long time, and it's nothing to be ashamed about because it's a lot of teams' needs, but it's a big need. So, yeah, go out. And to your point, James, like I said, like, you got to just have insurance policies in depth. Depth is key. Like, teams that have depth, like, win. So I don't think you stop at one. I think you go for two.
Starting point is 00:12:32 And then you just, now you have a bunch of, I don't want to call them lottery tickets, but you have a bunch of, but you have a bunch of chance. Some of them are going to work. Some of them aren't. You just need to hold a bunch of, you know, good ballplayers and good starters. It would be good. Let's go next voicemail. My wish, I lost Correa to a 10-year deal, or maybe Trevor Story, would love to get another starting pitcher, and let's go. Let's get to NL Central. I know people think the Cubs are not a contention, but I think if we get Correa and another starter,
Starting point is 00:13:18 or in maybe Nicastiano's will be also a nice addition, get his bat in there. Let's go Cubs. Wow. After the Stroman signing, the Cubs are now a team where you're thinking, well, why would they spend that much money on the next two years if they're not going to spend more money on the next two years? So I think all Cubs fans kind of like wishes and hopes changed and kind of up the ante. And I agree.
Starting point is 00:13:46 And I kind of forgot that they are still players when we get out of this lockout to go get more guys. Otherwise, the Stroman deal is incredibly odd. You think they're in on Correa, Jake? Yeah, my thing was I gave my Cubs speech. I think next year's the find out year. They've got so many guys in their starting lineup. You've got this crop of 30-year-olds that broke out last year. Go look at Raphael Ortega's staff. Frank Schwindle, Patrick Wisdom. They all had awesome like half seasons at age 30. So I don't really know what you do with that. Our guy, Ian Hap, watch out for him in the MVP race, Jason Hayward. And then they have all these young guys up the middle between Nick Magrigal and Nico Horner that, you know, guys who are legit proffers. Are we live still,
Starting point is 00:14:38 Beavers? Yeah, the stream didn't die or anything. We're still, we all are. It's all our. It was just all of us. We should probably stop like no fan graphs, baseball reference and just shoot from the hip. Because that's that's what crap. That's what I toggled me up when I was started going through fan graphs. Really? I started going. I have no idea how it works. But maybe we use less,
Starting point is 00:15:02 less and less. But I got to have the chat up though. I know. I like the chat too. Maybe the chat on your phone. I don't know. There he is. There's that couch boy.
Starting point is 00:15:12 Jake, I believe the last thing, uh, you said was Nico Herner. A lot of Cub stuff. I listened to it all. Jake. You were a great take, man.
Starting point is 00:15:19 We were in the boy. I heard it as well. Yeah, I could hear it. The three of us were in the void, so I saw the screen freeze, but I saw you guys. I kept rolling. Next year's the find out what we got here for the Cubs. I don't see them putting all their chips on the table next year. Do you think Correa has a $300 million suitor out there?
Starting point is 00:15:41 Is it the Yankees? He already did, right? Well, the rumor was he turned down the Tigers. 10 for 300? I thought it was less than that. It was $2.75 or something like that. Okay. And dude, I mean, he was supposed to set the market.
Starting point is 00:15:59 I don't, do you see him getting over Seeger anywhere? Yeah. And if he doesn't get a long-term deal that he wants, like, does he run it back in Houston for one year on a huge AAV? Like, I don't think he does. Like, you got to go get the money. now like whatever money you can go get go get it there's just he's going to sign somewhere i don't i just don't know if he's going to get as much as he initially thought he's going to get a bag
Starting point is 00:16:32 i'd assume wait and see the cubs now we know are part of that hopeful wishing for it i'm correct caray is going to get paid i think trev you know huge fantasy football guys it's playoff season now i think i'm going to compare it i think i'm going to compare it to an auction draft when you see one of the top players is up there and he's going below value and you're like well screw it I'm the Phillies I'm going to throw a bit on Correa if this
Starting point is 00:17:01 is his price. Well screw it I'm the Cubs if this is Correa's price and then it's eventually going to get back to where he is going to be the top dog. That's what I keep saying during this lockout teams are stewing there looking at their rosters saying like what can we do it's a big roster stew
Starting point is 00:17:19 in the front office right now because they can't talk to players they can just look at them Jake's more into which is bruise than stews I love a good stew I have this recipe I swear I'm going to send you guys
Starting point is 00:17:31 I might just put in the chat right now it's excellent put it in the chat don't crash all the internet again though let's go to the next voice now yeah go go Correa another double what's up boys
Starting point is 00:17:45 and hey first off I'd like to say Jake you're looking swore right now that's what I'm talking about But yeah, so I'm a St. Louis Cardinals fan, okay? And I think the thing that I would like for them to do this winter is to sign Albert Pujol to a one-year contract, reunion tour, baby. That was my guy growing up.
Starting point is 00:18:08 I know he's kind of old now. We can't really do much, but, you know, that's just go out with Wayne O'Niati. Why not? By the way, I love the show, boys. Keep going. Wow. Okay. How's it going?
Starting point is 00:18:23 Talking Adam. Jake sucks. Let's go Trevor Plouf. 100 home run club. He's the best. The same with Cardinals are my team. Diehard fan. And we need some pitching,
Starting point is 00:18:35 but mostly we know they're bad. Either there's a DA, or just in general, we need a short stop. And I want Trevor's story. That is what I want. I want to bring him back to Nolan. I want to reunite them.
Starting point is 00:18:47 The Young sucks. Sosa's pretty mid. You know, we really need a short step. stop and we were never going to get Correa or Seeger and we were never going to get Sibbion. Story's kind of always been the only option for us. So I like Story. I want him.
Starting point is 00:19:03 And I could use Rodom too. You know, we need a starter. So, yeah, Jake sucks. This is starting to open. I think a lot of people's eyes because baseball is such a sport where you don't really, you don't hear other fan bases. You're so regional. You listen to your radio, your Twitter, your whatever like it is.
Starting point is 00:19:23 we got a lot of teams that one think think they can get Trevor story or that their front office is like looking around and same with Rodon like I think Rodon stock and not that is maybe the price doesn't go up but like the amount of offers that from fan bases at least is more than I would guess or I don't know we'll just keep going but I didn't have the Cardinals and story on my watch list at all maybe it is Jake says no there was a tweet out there circulate last night. It was going over all like the projected stats for the Cardinals and how balance their team is. They're close. So like this is what I'm saying. I feel like I keep making the same point. When you're that close, like they think they have a really good team, but maybe
Starting point is 00:20:11 they need something to go over the top. Like teams can convince themselves to go pull trades, you know, go out for a story. I don't think it's far-fetched. I got to look at the payroll and see what they're willing to do. But if you're close and you've got a window and you got Jack Flaherty leading the way and you're still paying them nothing, like it's, you could convince yourself to go after some of these big name guys.
Starting point is 00:20:37 I'd like to see the birds get a little more pitching. I mean, you can say that for every team, obviously. I just think when we start talking the actual financial side of this in St. Louis, I know you're a great city and I know every owner has money, but if they pay Trevor Story, you're now paying Aeronado story and Goldschmidt. That's just it.
Starting point is 00:20:56 Those are your infielders. You're paying them big boy money. I just personally don't see the Cardinals doing that. If they do, I do think that would make them like one of the favorites around baseball. Albert Pooleholz, I'm going to walk all over Trev and Chris Rose when they tried to big time me at first when Chris Rose just joined. And he was giving me a whole speech how Poo Holes is going to join the Orioles. and I said, Albert Pujos does one thing. He mash his lefties.
Starting point is 00:21:24 Albert Pujos last year, 2021, 939 OPS first lefties. Whoever brings them in, there's DH spots. Go hit some lefties, knock it around. And why not St. Louis and make it a story? I'm all about a good storyline. Win it for Albert. Let's have a day, babe. I have a question to your question as an answer.
Starting point is 00:21:48 Yes. Why not, Albert, why not St. Louis? They're good and they're competing. And if they were not good, if they were not guaranteed to be competing for number one, I would say 100% bring him back. If there's a DH in the NL, play them and make it the pool's reunion tour. The tribe from a player's point of view, Cardinals players right now that are kind of have it weren't like, would that be annoying to have a place? Latune DH be the story every day and it be known as Paul's reunion tour season when they're good and they're trying to win. And would it, would it be a distraction that the players right now kind of would be like, this is a little bit of a circus when for compete year or is there any of that? Or would everyone embrace it and love it because it's pulls and everyone loves pulls. Genuine question. Yeah, I think that's, you gave yourself the answer to at the end.
Starting point is 00:22:47 It's Pujol's with the Cardinals. That's a whole different story here. You know, if we're talking some guy that has, you know, no history with the organization he comes in, I've said it about guys. I'm not going to say who, but go home. Like, give the kids a chance. There's always that sentiment because you're fighting for, you know,
Starting point is 00:23:06 26 roster spots and there's a lot of freaking baseball players. So there is that. You always want your chance. But Pujo is going back to St. Louis. I think one, you're right, they wouldn't do. do it if they didn't think he could help them because they are they're here i mean i am looking at their bench and it's thin like go ahead and look at fangrass roster resource their bench there's a bunch of guys there's two guys with no service time that they're projected to have you know like
Starting point is 00:23:32 having a guy who has a 930 ops against lefties i don't think it's a bad idea i like it he has so kind of so kind of a thought process for all fans if the d h goes to the n and you need someone to hit lefties like full like what's great is there's a lot of those guys out there you know there's a lot of guys with that split like they can hit cross-handed pitching so this the dh bing in the nl now you know hopefully uh is going to open up a lot of jobs for those platoon dh days for sure and i think that's cool and let's bring the back the bench like I know our guys Peter Moylan and Jerry Blevins kind of got screwed by the three batter rule. But Albert Pujos, like, start them against a couple lefties.
Starting point is 00:24:26 So there's 50 games a year. And then you pinch hit them when they bring in that lefty reliever and you got two on. Like Albert Pujos is still a threat. Like, let's bring back the bench. I know NL ball is dead and we use the bench. Let's actually bring back the bench and, like, use it in a fun way to make the product better. The only problem is the Cardinals don't have any lefty hitter. So I don't know if they're getting that lefty reliever.
Starting point is 00:24:50 We got. Getting out of the what? They're getting a, like they don't have a top lefty hitter that an opposing team would bring a lefty reliever in. Oh, sure. That would hit in front of Poole's to kind of trap a lefty against Poole's. They are a heavy right, heavy right handed team. So, I mean, Poole's maybe doesn't necessarily fit. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:14 now that I'm looking at it because they are all right-handed. There's Carlson and Edmund that are Switch. Man. Can you talk yourself into pinch hitting for Edmund? If you want to bring Paulson to face lefties, you need to put a lefty batter ahead of them
Starting point is 00:25:37 to get the lefty in the game. Or I was thinking lefty start like a lefty starter, but that's 50 games, you know, like they don't need that though. Look at their line. Now I'm walking back. everything I'm saying. It's all righties.
Starting point is 00:25:49 It's all righties. Well, let's move on. Thank you to the two St. Louis callers. Appreciate it. What up talking, baseball. This is Jimmy from Rio Vista, California, calling in talking about the SF Giants' number one Christmas wish. That's Joey Bart having a good 20-22 season. He needs playing time
Starting point is 00:26:09 and he needs to get better at Major League at bat. He's supposed to take the place of the now retired Buster Posey. So the team is really looking at this guy to become their premier catcher. He's supposed to take over that role and become not really a leader in the sense as he'll be a rookie, but they do have pitching basically figured out for the 2022 season.
Starting point is 00:26:28 They probably won't do a whole lot more. They'll have some reclamation pieces, but they want to have Joey Bart have a good enough season to where he can lead the team, hopefully, into the next decade. Thanks for the show, guys. Jake sucks. Can't have that. That's what I fucking want. Peace, guys.
Starting point is 00:26:47 What is that caught at the end? What? what was the end quote that he said I can't have that that's what I fucking want BBD you're laughing is that from a show I don't know but it made me laugh a lot
Starting point is 00:27:03 yeah that was pretty good I guess okay no context here don't be mad if it's really bad thanks Jimmy and the answer to this question about the San Francisco Giants is brought to you by my breakfast this morning Magic spoon cereal
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Starting point is 00:28:36 And they're going to maybe, I'm not saying this specifically about Jerry Bart, see how nice they had it for a while. Yes. They had a unicorn. They really did. And I totally agree. like once once you have one of those and then you don't have one that's like going to a nice sushi
Starting point is 00:28:54 place you level up at sushi you can't go back like if you go to your regular spot that's good then you go to this you know other place not as good you hate it and i think that's kind of what they're going to be dealing with there in san franc unless our boy joey who who hit in triple a last year he only played 67 games there must have been some sort of lingering issue going on. But he's hitting the minor leagues, you know, big leagues are a little bit different, but we're rooting for Joey.
Starting point is 00:29:25 It'd be nice for the giants to just have nice sushi, you know, again, for the next decade. As someone who eats traditionally bad sushi, I'm rooting for Joey Bart. And I do think it deserves to be said, like,
Starting point is 00:29:39 I know minor leaguers or minor leaguers or minor leaguers, and we're comparing him to a guy who's either a Hall of Famer or a fringe Hall of Famer, wherever you want to put him. So that is going to be, that's kind of eye opening to me. That's just going to be a brutal ask however it plays out. And especially, you know, the giant season was magical and it was awesome.
Starting point is 00:30:00 And we'll see if they replicated. If they don't, I mean, that's one of the easiest fingers to point, right? Because Buster Posey worked with the pitchers and he was, everything he did offensively was also gross. I mean, Joey Bart was like a top 20 prospect at one point. So the guy definitely has real talent in there. It's just where does it land? And I mean, I think what Jim was trying to drive home is if Joey Bart plays 110 games for you and has an OPS plus around 100, that's a pretty nice catcher.
Starting point is 00:30:37 And Giants fans have been used to something very different for the past decade or so. So tough ass for Joe Bark. is that's you're saying that if he has good defense because if you got if you don't have good defense and you're hitting right around 100 you shouldn't be starting I think defense is paramount at the catcher position I think most teams would say that
Starting point is 00:31:02 you know you just want to have a guy back there that's going to steal you some strikes you're pitching staff can have faith in who can handle the pitching staff the bat is always a bonus or the other way you could just an absolute banger and kind of like you know have a bunch of thumbs back there but i think joe is going to be fine look at his minor league track record he's got an 860
Starting point is 00:31:25 ops throughout all the minor league seasons usually they say you knock off around like 15 to 20 percent off those numbers something like that did i just make that up i don't know i've heard that before you take it you take an 800 ops a 775 something like that from your catcher if he's playing decent defense 100 percent yeah but do you know, like, a starting catcher is going to get how many played appearances? They're going to play, you know, let's say 100 games, get like 400 played appearances. Hopefully you want to play more than that, I think. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:31:59 Maybe that's maybe the rest days are way more now. But I'm saying, okay, so how many catchers do you think last year had 400 played appearances and an OPS that started with an eight in baseball? Two or three. 3. No, yeah, Will Smith. J.T. Rill moot.
Starting point is 00:32:18 Didn't even have it. He had a 70. He didn't do. So like you to say, for you to say Joey Bart should have an 800 OPS. It's like a gigantic as a starting catcher. It's a gigantic ask. It's three people and all like three catchers in all the baseball last year did it. So it's.
Starting point is 00:32:36 I just say it's giants fans. You're in for a little bit of an awakening where you have to lessen to your is very, very, very rare to have a starting catcher. who plays four out of five games, have an OPS that starts with an eight. Hey, and Joey Bart, go be nasty. Let's spin this the positive way. Maybe in San Francisco,
Starting point is 00:32:59 we get a little Brett Farr to Aaron Rogers. The torch is past. Joey Bart's going to play an incredible decade of baseball, rooting for that. I got a lot of his rookie cards too. Come on, Joey. As your rookie cards. And I want to circle back to St. Lou for a minute,
Starting point is 00:33:13 because, you know, one of my favorite thing about podcasting is Trevor's eyes. After that, it's what you find along the way. And guys, the Cardinals, and we're looking at roster resource, they don't have a DH yet because that's not legal in the National League. They're going to go out and sign a lefty DH. How about a Schwabo? How about someone like that? So Cardinals fans, I know you have your eyes on story or whoever,
Starting point is 00:33:40 look for some of these big lefty boppers because that's what your team. Missing. Boom. You're welcome. GM Jake. Crushed it. Next on the table. Hey, everyone.
Starting point is 00:33:53 How's it going? I'm a Pirates fan. My name's Alex. Hi. So a new team would be preferable for my Grish list. But if we want something reasonable, please just let,
Starting point is 00:34:05 oh, no, crews develop and we keep Brian Reynolds. And I'll probably be satisfied for a year. Thanks, guys. All right, we have Pirates fan and, you know, one new team to just keep Brian Reynolds. That's fair.
Starting point is 00:34:20 And a lot of teams, sorry, sorry to our Pittsburgh brand that called in. A lot of teams are asking for the exact opposite. Yes, they want the pirates to give away Ryan Reynolds. What do we know about O'Neill? Two last names. We've seen him.
Starting point is 00:34:40 We've seen him. He looks different on the field. Like he stands out, six, seven. He didn't like that short stop. He saw him do that one time. Yeah, I mean, what's, are they going to give him a shot? You know, I know they got a couple guys at the middle. Kotuck's kind of been playing everywhere.
Starting point is 00:35:01 He got a couple of bats last year. Nine of bats, three hits and a homer. Take that into the off season and pat yourself on the back. Do you guys mind if I get a little heightest? Yes. You always do. He's too tall to play shortstop. It's just.
Starting point is 00:35:21 They said the same thing about Cal Rib. can okay cow rip was what six three four five think him and jitz are about six four six seven yeah too that's a lot that's a lot i agree to like move that quickly ripkin was six four jeter was six six i thought jeter was always six three six three yeah six seven yeah six seven's a yeah six seven's a different i totally agree like i i see this guy put a little weight on him because he's 6, 7, 2, 10. He looks skinny, but that doesn't sound too skinny. 6, 7, 2, 10.
Starting point is 00:35:59 That sounds like pretty nice build, but he looks skinny when we saw him. But I envision this guy. Imagine this. Imagine you're playing short stuff. You're playing third base, and you get a ball in the hole, and you got a spin and wheel and throw it over to first base, and you got O'Neill Cruz,
Starting point is 00:36:16 big body hitting homers over there with his arms stretched out and can pick it from anywhere. That's like a new breed of first baseman. Six-seven. How many six-seven first baseman have there been? I mean, that's the thing, man. Six-seven is rare air anywhere.
Starting point is 00:36:33 It's rare air. Like, you know, third baseman aren't six-seven. Like we're talking big sexy, Richie Sexton. I mean, guys like that. So here's my thing. And this is the perks of being the Pittsburgh Pirates. Let's throw them out at shortstop and see if the kid can break it for half a season. And guess who he's got at third base?
Starting point is 00:36:52 Brian Hayes, a dude who's supposed to be a special, like, kind of all-time defensive third baseman. So, O'Neill, don't even worry about third base. Key's got it. Play up the middle a little bit, and let's see what you got. Trev, I kind of like the freakish first baseman athlete of the future, because we always talk about how it's undervalued. I think you throw the kid out there. Let's see what it looks like. We love Alejandro Kirk because he can break the mold the opposite direction.
Starting point is 00:37:22 Let's see what O'Neill's got. And then if you got to throw him in the outfield or first freak first baseman or whatever. But I mean, let's see this dude play because if he can be a, I don't know, a brand of a Aaron Judge Light for the Pittsburgh Pirates, that's fun. That makes you want to watch the Pittsburgh Pirates. And that's what they need. Start Cole Tucker, you fools. You fools. I just did some quick research.
Starting point is 00:37:51 I think judge is the only listed taller than 6-7 position player in baseball. Active? 6-7 or taller active position player
Starting point is 00:38:05 in baseball. You know what I love? Sex. Sin. Richie Sexson. The chat gave me that one. Six, seven played first base and some outfield two-time
Starting point is 00:38:18 All-Star got MVP votes. it's been done before. I think he had some fun nights. Big sexy, Richie Saxon. Are you kidding me? From Brush, Brush, Prairie, Washington.
Starting point is 00:38:35 They grow them big up there. Richie, are you saying Richie Saxon played short? Did I hear you? No, first base. Oh, okay, yeah, yeah. I don't think there's ever been a,
Starting point is 00:38:46 uh, six, seven shortstop. How does Richie Sexson? had 306 homers. Yeah. Only produced 18 war with that many homers. The defense probably wasn't there for all rich.
Starting point is 00:39:02 Treb, when people say, you know, part of the 100 home run club, like that's so cool. I've like made that up, though. That's not like a real club. I've like made it up.
Starting point is 00:39:12 But, you know. Yeah, but I mean, but, you know, it's what, uh, what did the, the Brewer's bench coach say to us when we talked to him, Pat Murphy?
Starting point is 00:39:21 he said something along the lines of yeah all these guys have long careers in the pros then when they retire because they're not hall of famers they just go around saying they sucked and it's like you hit a hundred home runs like it's fucking i kind of did the opposite i sucked and then i tell people i could play i could beat some middle schoolers there's a lot there's a lot there's a lot of current debate going on yeah uh not really debate um it's a new tv show we're pitching Jake, if we drop Jake, okay, randomly, um, onto a middle school baseball team, how many teams would he be the best player on the team? Middle school?
Starting point is 00:40:08 Yeah, you got like 14 year olds. You know, some kids are big in middle school. How am I? Like the best of the best 14 year. could you beat him? Not a lot for 18 years, by the way. Yeah. 13, I think is...
Starting point is 00:40:26 13 is 8th grade. I think you'd physical him to death. I know you. Low man wins kind of guy. You'd intimidate him. I think he could do it. Someone actually posed this question to me on Twitter.
Starting point is 00:40:40 My good friend, um, he said, how many or what, at what age could a bunch of ex pro players play with their opposite hands. So like I throw lefty, like at what age could teams beat us eventually?
Starting point is 00:40:56 Isn't spring the end of the year? Baseball is the start of the beginning of the year is spring. Starting. Okay, then not a lot of 14 girls. Because a lot of 8th graders are 14 when 8th grade ends. I was 12 in 8th grade. A lot of third graders in the chat, 13 year old 8th graders in the chat saying they would wax you.
Starting point is 00:41:20 So I know. I'm ready to get waxed. But you were really young because that was 14 when I think most people turned 14 started that year. Most people turn 14 eighth grade, yes. But it's a spring sport not a fall. So that's where you get help. I think they turn 14 freshman year. No, you turn 15 freshman year.
Starting point is 00:41:41 You turned 16. Sophomore year, you turned 17 junior, your turn 18 senior year. Jake had a late birthday. You were just very, very young for your age. I was young for my grade too. The answer lies somewhere in the middle. Yeah, it's going to be a great YouTube headline. Jake gets waxed by middle schoolers.
Starting point is 00:42:02 I'm giving him seven out of ten schools, but like, and that's low. And that's low. I think the lowest of the office. You go to California, I just don't think it's. I would have whacked. When I was 13 or 14, I was, I would have waged you. Yeah, 100%.
Starting point is 00:42:18 Yes Okay You and Delman Young We're on a team at that age Delman would have whacked Delman was throwing 90 miles an hour So Delman would have waxed me
Starting point is 00:42:31 Yeah you're right Still would You've got the whole northeast though Jake Northeast Midwest A couple big boys Next voicemail Do we even answer the question
Starting point is 00:42:42 What was the question That was O'Neill Cruz Brian Reynolds Not a question. They're letting us know what they're wishing for. O'Neill's a shortstop in the new game last year. Let the boy eat.
Starting point is 00:42:54 It is Sam from San Sports Talk. I am here with a Christmas wish for you guys. I'm a huge Yankees fan. Okay. And obviously the one thing that we want to figure out by the end of the offseason is what's going on over at first base is Brazil going to come back or we're going to use voice. But I guarantee you guys have heard this one a million to one times, probably in these voicemails, is that we need to get Matt Olson to New York.
Starting point is 00:43:20 Fantastic left-handed back. Gold Glover over there at first base. My number one priority for the Yankees is Christmas. All I want for Christmas is you, baby. Matt Olsen to the Yankees. Have a great day, guys. It's a big one in Yankees world. I don't think it's the number one on the list,
Starting point is 00:43:37 since they currently have some first baseman that can play there, and they have zero short stops. That can be the opening day shortstop. But it is, Yankees fans got a lot of the wishes right now. I think number one in Yankeesland is a shortstop. shortstop. Where do you guys land on that? I mean, I'm sure you've talked about it a bunch. I'm talking yanks. We just did an entire episode, all on just all the shortstop options. So if
Starting point is 00:44:04 you're interested, I saw you point a fake gun at Jake's face. Yep. It's rude. Well, no, that's tradition. We've been doing that since 2018. You make a lot of different decisions when a gun is to your head, Treve. You're really honest with yourself. Jake said Korea's coming. Yeah. Yeah. No spoilers. I know. No spoilers.
Starting point is 00:44:28 Yeah, it's just, I don't know who's actually going to empty the bank roll for Correa. Like it's if the Dodgers come into play and Trey Turner would have to play second or Correa would have to agree to play third, which tell Carlos Correa the best shortstop platinum glove winner that you're signing with the Dodgers to play third base. I just don't see that happening. Matt Olson, man, it seems like such a goddamn fit, that lefty swing Yankee Stadium. He's kind of a Yankee. I know he's got a nice bird. What? Like he's like he shakes a firm.
Starting point is 00:45:07 Like Treb, no, we're saying this as a shot at the Yankees. Like the Yankees have gone a little too boring. Like the Yankees love boring. But Matt Olson, like he wears a nice vest and he shakes your hand firmly. And he he says the right thing. Like the Yankees need a little. a little more swag, a little more uptick. I mean, Matt Olen's beautiful, and he'll say my daughter.
Starting point is 00:45:27 But that lefty swing at the stadium and go check out his statistics. He's incredible. It's just who else is going to pay the troll toll to see that boys' hole because, I mean, he's awesome. Oh, my God. What the, I'll taste other dudes. Oh, God. I think he's more swaggy than you give him credit for. That's what I think.
Starting point is 00:45:55 I think he put him in the bright lights in New York the guy might develop something he's Mark Toshera but cooler I think I don't know about the statistics how they line up but I know Mark Tashare wasn't That's tough to like Mark Tashare is like one of the most Zero Swag players to ever play in the MLB So it's tough to say like he's a notch up from that
Starting point is 00:46:14 Because that means that like he gives a good high five basically You didn't let me finish I feel like Tashare is a kind of guy you don't worry about New York He's not going to cause any ruckus I think Matt Olson's the same thing. Not going to get in any trouble. I think along those lines are the same. But I think, I mean, just the way he finishes,
Starting point is 00:46:33 like that finishes. Matt Olson has a finish that nobody else has. Like, he's going to turn that into something. The crowd's going to love it. He's going to develop that under these big bright lights. He's playing Oakland right now. Yeah, that's as gritty as it comes. Do you like, let him get some nice dinners.
Starting point is 00:46:50 I think you and Jake are saying the same thing then. I think you guys are saying the same thing. So while he's not number one on my. wish list it would be very nice okay I'm a greedy Yankees fan I got three which who's your who's your I mean I don't want to give away your whole episode but do you have like a short stuff that you're keen on now it's basically what it boils down to is that if the Yankees don't sign Correa or story and I think I'd rather story on a shorter contract just the 10 years scares me even though Cray's could
Starting point is 00:47:19 be the best option there also couldn't be the best option they're very similar numbers the last couple years story just had a weaker last year I lean story right now. I reserve the right to change my mind. But if they don't get one of those two, they're like, they're like, they're like fucked.
Starting point is 00:47:34 That's what, that's what's crazy is story just gets like overlooked. Like, yeah, he's just going to take like two year deal with no money. It's like bullshit. This guy's a player. You think his agent's going to roll over?
Starting point is 00:47:44 Like, no, he's still going to cost money. I think like the last three years, they have the same OPS plus. Defense is there. And there's concerns about Story's arm, but Story can steal.
Starting point is 00:47:55 bags like crazy. So it's, you know, have a good year when you become a free agent. It changed a lot. That's true. Oh, this was a something, a comment that I didn't say a while ago is do is the Cubs, Jake, all those 30 year olds that like are having a good year. Like don't try to see if anyone's got interested in some of those guys. It seems like trade interest. Yeah. Yeah. I don't think they have trade value because they only have like a half season of work. I would I would pepper, just pepper feelers around. Some of those, some of those guys are not saying all of them and not saying specifically any, I have no idea.
Starting point is 00:48:41 One of those guys' value will never be as high as it is right now. Others might come back up. Even if it's not much, it'll never be more than it is now for some of them. Shwendy said, baby. Trust me, they're thinking about all these options. you know, suck to see Patty Wisdom have to leave Chicago,
Starting point is 00:49:04 but dude, if that means he's just going to get like a real opportunity somewhere. He's going to get an opportunity in Chicago too, so it's like he's blocked. Yeah. I'm excited to see what those guys do next year, wherever they're at. Let's move on to the next voicemail.
Starting point is 00:49:18 Another double. All right, my favorite team, the Boston Red Sox, their Christmas wish, simple is this. Kyle from Wall him. Dude mashes. He's the heart and soul of the team, buying pizza for those firefighters, and just opened up a spot in the outfield for him. Hunter Renfro, traded to Milwaukee. We know
Starting point is 00:49:38 J.B.J. is not going to play every day. His bat doesn't live up to that. But Schwabber, my man, he rakes, he matches, crushed coal in the playoffs, crushed pretty much everyone last year. He's going to be what the Red Sox need for a great 2022 season market. it. Okay. So we got Jack and I don't know what the first one was. What did Jack want? His mom,
Starting point is 00:50:30 his mom put her ass in the water again. Been there, mom. Story to the Red Sox. Get that. Everyone wants to hear. Yeah, what do they need him for? That first time you fall in the toilet is tough. No,
Starting point is 00:50:46 the toilet in Puerto Rico was huge. I was like, Katie, I don't know if I think I'm going to fall in. This is like, Daddy. Yeah. Um, yeah, man, this, again, the fantasy football auction equation, I think the Boston Red Sox, I think is this Bogots last year in his contract. Um, so they're just, they're daydreaming. And you bring story to play short. You move Bogots to second because, uh, his defensive stuff has, has never been great. And I, you know, he's about to hit. He's 29 heading towards 30. Um, and then you can kick Kike out to center to man it with Jackie Bradley. I get where the daydream happens, but again, Red Sox needs, I don't think Story or Correa's final price tag lands where they want it. Schwabow, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:51:35 I mean, that guy, I mean, when he's making fun of himself at first base, if you want to hit one 450 and go yard, or if you want to slap one off the monster, he's a beautiful creature. Everyone wants Schwerber. Everyone wants story. it's just bottom line here. Shorber's a good fit for the Red Sox. They should really bring him back.
Starting point is 00:51:59 I think. I agree with that. Like the caller said, like just like personality wise, fun wise, there's spots for him to play. Dimensions of the stadium aren't perfect for him. But I think he's,
Starting point is 00:52:10 I mean, in a playoff game or like down the stretch to, not a playoff game, down the stretch to botcha play and then make the same play later in the inning and just wave to the crowd and take a bow for yourself. That is some like, balls and fun personality that that fits in in that area so but you know where you get that to
Starting point is 00:52:31 experience in big ass games which he has and that is a welcome you know trait for any team i love swarbs man if the dh wasn't common i think he's guaranteed back on the red socks but after lockout if they come back and he's definitely a guy that's waiting this out same with jock probably like waiting out as soon as they announced dh in the nl then it's going to be much bigger bidding season for these guys is he the best straight up hitter who's a free agent i know freddie freeman and castiano so no all right next caller thanks next caller uh yeah brewer's number one uh christmas wish this year's to actually give brandon woodruff some run support when he's pitching.
Starting point is 00:53:28 I think a lot of people Milwaukee would agree with you. What's up with that? Trev, did you ever have a guy that your team just never scored on that day and they wonder if it was because he worked slow or just could happen? It's usually your good pitchers,
Starting point is 00:53:49 honestly. Because you know that you, you know, it's like you know you don't got to score a bunch, I guess. You can breathe a little. I play with on a lot of teams that didn't have great starting pitching. So there was a lot of times we were behind and then there'd be a couple games. We're like, okay, we're probably going to be in this one.
Starting point is 00:54:08 So it was almost a different feeling. They have so many good pitchers. I think it's kind of just a random thing. But actually, no, it's not a random thing at all. I'm sorry. They need better offensive players on their team. Can I tell you guys a story that Jack from Boston mom reminded me of that my mom is going to be upset that I tell to you guys?
Starting point is 00:54:31 guys. When I was a freshman, my, my cousin lived with me and he was a sophomore in high school and we were best friends and always like fucking with each other. And we shared a bathroom. And I put saran wrap underneath the seat, you know, the old prank like invisible. Um, wondering if I could get him. And my mom was going upstairs and had to pee so bad. And instead of going to the bathroom in her room just went to the main hall bathroom and just flipped it up, sat down and started peeing. She said it just started splashing up right between her legs back up and her face. And she had to like dig in there and rip the saran wrap it out.
Starting point is 00:55:13 She's so bad at me. Oh, my God. It's 10 times better than my cousin pissing standing up and peeing and he would have saw it. And it was like, you know, but yeah, if you're like a 14 year old boy, has a good relationship with your mom, go saran wrap or toilet. See, it's hilarious. don't do that
Starting point is 00:55:31 I'm gonna be the other side don't do that do it Teddy to go do it then you got to clean it up who's who's who's cleaning mom's pee up I think she did oh that's horrible
Starting point is 00:55:45 you gotta clean up your own pee unless you're like a baby yeah god that's like double you know first you get splashed and you have to clean up your own pee all over the place that's that's pretty brutal James
Starting point is 00:55:57 I'm gonna say oh well I wasn't meant well I had and out because I was like, why'd you use that toilet? That's not your bathroom. That's a bad out. That's a bad out. Oh, it is. Bad out. That's a bad out. My mom would have taken her shoe off and, you know, thrown it at me a few times. Maybe it's smack. Well, we were at like school, you know,
Starting point is 00:56:16 like I did it in the morning, so it would happen when we got back from school. So I wasn't even home when it happened to her. So by the time I got home, like, you know, she was laughing about it. Okay. Anyway, next call. You guys know who, you guys know who'd be a good fit for that Milwaukee offense? Chorber. Schwarber. Schwarber and story, yeah. Story, dude.
Starting point is 00:56:38 Yeah, look, dude, I'm on their roster resource. Like, their lineup isn't, you know, striking fear in anybody right now. They're pitching does, and their defense can, but they need to add somebody. And I assume they will. They have the payroll flexibility to do that. So we love the brewers. Double. What's up, boys?
Starting point is 00:57:03 My name is Vaughn. I'm from beautiful Sussex County, New Jersey, but I'm a nationals fan. For Christmas this year, I hope the National sign a bunch of veterans and just a bunch of veterans to short-term deals that we can flip at the deadline just for some prospects just to help the rebuild train to get out of the station. Thank you guys. Merry Christmas. I completely agree, Jake. Hi, I'm a name's Sonola.
Starting point is 00:57:31 I'm an ass fan. And as an ass fan, what I want for Christmas is for Mike Rizzo to please sign free agents that aren't over the age of 35 because so far we've only signed two people and I'm going to be real. I don't know their names, but I do know their ages and they're both over 35. We need new young people because we're trying to rebuild our team. That's the whole point of why we tanked at the trade deadline. Mike Rizzo, I swear to God, please sign some young people. I don't care if they're good or not.
Starting point is 00:57:59 You can make them good. All right. So I think they signed Luis Avalon and and Caesar Hernandez is that they signed him. I think they brought back El Cedys Escobar too. They did. I kind of like the first caller's
Starting point is 00:58:20 understanding of it like, hey, if we're rebuilding and goes like at the end, at the end of a signing period when spring training starts and you have that veteran camp of like guys that still want to play but haven't been given deals, just go give them some one year deals and hope, some of them play themselves into a trade and then then you've rebuilt that way they also have like
Starting point is 00:58:45 who do they have they have josh bell that he can get traded yep they have an interesting time up there just it's won soto and the boys no offense to anybody up there i mean won soto's 23.2 years old when he's 28 is he going to be barry bonds like is this is that who we're going to be comping him to? Who else would you comp that guy to when he matures and is really strong and has been, has seen a million pitches in the big leagues? He already looks like he's seen that. He's only going to get freaking better at the plate.
Starting point is 00:59:27 It's almost scary to think how good of a hitter he's going to become. And he already is, obviously, but like there is, he's going to get better. Baby Ruth. He's going to get a lot of money. Baby Ruth. That division is gnarly. National fans probably hate this, but the perfect time to rebuild. Like Phillies in three years are going to stink.
Starting point is 00:59:50 Mets in three years are going to stink. Braves will probably be good because they're a really well-run franchise. Marlins will see what happens with their young guys. They could be at their final good year or in a complete rebuild. I know it sucks. But yeah, go get some veterans. If you start winning games, you're always going to point back to 2019. Remember how old, Howie Kendrick was?
Starting point is 01:00:10 that'll be fun and if you don't do that I love Schwerver and story for them by my calculations we have two voicemails left let's get let's do the next one so we have four left there's doubles 14 was including the doubles
Starting point is 01:00:30 I didn't know about the doubles yeah and here's another set of doubles hey what's going on talking baseball I'm a reping out here from San Diego my name's Dakota a big Padres fan and uh honestly after last year my my biggest christmas wish that i could ever ask for is uh just something to go right something to go right you know i mean we got we got we got everything in place it seems like we got a baller coaching staff we got bob melvin in there
Starting point is 01:01:00 hawked them right underneath the a's and uh you know it's all there for us man i mean we got patees we got some of the best players in the game some of the best pitchers in the game and uh seems like, you know, maybe with a couple more moves in the off season, we could be right there. But it just takes a little luck and it's something that San Diego doesn't seem to have too much of. But it's all there for us, man, so hopefully just something to everything to go right. That's my biggest Christmas wish this year. All right, take care you guys. Later.
Starting point is 01:01:33 Oh, it's up, Tom. Seth Trez. Sorry, Jake. I forgot about you. I'm actually not sorry. I really don't like you. Bryant to the Padres. Hot take, I know.
Starting point is 01:01:47 And they mean outfielder. Right now, all they have is Trent Grishman, Roll Myers. Who will play left field? You know who will? Chris Bryant. He likes the fame. Padres got the money. Scott Boris.
Starting point is 01:02:03 I don't know. Kind of annoying. But Bryant to Padres. See you later. Love you, John. love me ches i hate you jake i hope that kid's not a badass middle school baseball player because you're getting beamed the challenge is on i want that kid baby d we got his number right we got his number yep text him right now it'd be his mom's number i don't know if that kid's got
Starting point is 01:02:33 his own phone yet that's how old are you in the blitzball court yeah ask for a picture of him and we'll figure it out from there send him a christmas gift and i should just an invite to show you and him one ass kicking one coupon for one the first caller not much to add something to go right sounds great second caller Chris Bryant in the outfield do you like this Jake that you're your your enemy uh wishes for man I guess when I think of Padres I don't jump to Chris Brian is the missing piece in my head. I mean, he's an awesome baseball player.
Starting point is 01:03:22 So, like, if they get Chris Bryant, that's huge. And right now they kind of have an outfield spot open. We know they want to use pro far in a util role, especially if they add the DH. So, yeah, they could use another stick. If it's Chris Bryant, celebrate. Any team that gets Chris Bryant celebrate. Don't have to tell you about Schwartz and story.
Starting point is 01:03:44 I, Jim, something I fell into, uh, that I think, you know, something to put our sights on. Talk about a team. I think you said it for the Red Sox last year. Their April is going to be huge. Like they need to get the train out of the station. Um, and then after that, right around the All Star break, like can't coast in, can't coast out. That team, that team's energy this year, they need positive Clevenger tweet vibes.
Starting point is 01:04:12 Hmm. I was going to say that this is. a sprinkle team. Like sprinkle them for the division, sprinkle them for the World Series. But then I'm looking here at Vegasinsider.com. They are the
Starting point is 01:04:28 one, two, three, four, five, six, seventh overall favorites to win the World Series. Vegas is on them already. I mean, they're ahead of the Brewers. They're ahead of the Giants, the Blue Jays, the Red Sox, the Mets, the Cardinals. It's going to be a fun year if you're a Padres. As bad as 2021 went for you,
Starting point is 01:04:47 I think 2022 is going to be a really good year for that. When we start doing TPPs again, I'm going to really have to figure out where I stand on the Padres. Yeah. They kind of like, I don't know, they were like, mean to me personally.
Starting point is 01:05:05 Hmm. Huh? I don't know. If you just go look at the roster and a vacuum, forget about 2021. It's a nice, it's a nice looking roster. I'd like to bite into that roster, if you know what I mean.
Starting point is 01:05:23 Jim, you just mentioned Cubbies and how, hey, they signed Strohman, so how else are you going to supplement, you know, payday in a little window? I mean, like, the Padres are in the goddamn teeth of it, man. Clevenger comes back, Snell. Is he down to two years left, Darvish? Like, Joe Musgrove, it's happening. and the the Padres are going to be active when baseball kicks back in. And I don't think we have talked about them enough. So I like that little fucking dweeb that called in that's going to get a shit pushed in by me.
Starting point is 01:06:01 I, uh, I want the Cubs to sign Bryant, Rizzo and Schwerberer decided. Oh, I like that. Cubs West. No, I want the Cubs to sign them. Oh. Just bring the boys back. Bring him back. And we got a bunch of.
Starting point is 01:06:16 prospects for him. Yankees did that with Chapman, right? Or who did that? Yeah, but this would be all three. I keep thinking, like, if Cubs fans think they're going to go sign Correa or story and, like, spend all this money. What if they just brought back the gang? They missed bias. They're out on him.
Starting point is 01:06:37 Yeah. All right. Go Padres. Hey, guys. Long time listener. I would say, as a royal fan, probably our number one item on the wish list is for Nikki Lopez
Starting point is 01:06:56 to turn on again for next season it would be really cool if he could keep up the All-Star pace that he had last season anyways thanks take sex you do suck Nikki Lopez just stay good
Starting point is 01:07:20 it's not the big of an ass Yeah, I mean, there was a big jump last year from the last two years. So, I mean, he got, he played in 56 of the 60 games in 2020 and it was not kind to him. So for him to bounce back is amazing. I got a couple statements slash questions. Our guy, Holly Jollive, Jack Olive, Jolly Olive did a video on Nikki Lopez. Go check that out. Statement.
Starting point is 01:07:55 Jim, you're kind of my go to on this and Trev. I mean, you're, you're on the pulse of everything. Going by Nikki. I don't know. I don't know. What do you want him to go by? Nick?
Starting point is 01:08:15 His, his nickname according to baseball reference is shorts. Like that. So, uh, yeah, Nikki is a tough one. I have a cousin who still goes by Nikki, but probably just with,
Starting point is 01:08:28 his family and friends, not with like the public. I would guess he gets called that everywhere. But I go by Jimmy and it's a very similar situation. I was told my whole life that I'd have to go by gym when I became an adult and it just never happened. So maybe Nikki was told his whole life like, you're not going to stay Nikki. And it just never happened. Sometimes it doesn't happen. Okay. I guess there's a big history of jimmies though. Yeah. Yeah, it's much more common than adult. There's not a lot of adult Nicky's. Yeah, I get what you're saying. But look, 26 years old, the guy breaks out.
Starting point is 01:09:06 That makes sense. Okay, 24, 25, you're finding yourself. You're learning your body. You're feeling new things. You're touching new places. Takes a little bit. 26, you figure it out. Then you start, you know where the places are.
Starting point is 01:09:22 You go straight to them. You work them. 27, things get better. 28. Okay, okay. Nikki Lopez. Do you, dog. And you got to say his whole name.
Starting point is 01:09:33 Someone in the chat said that makes a lot of sense. You say, Nikki, no good. Nicky Lopez. I like that. That's a baseball name. Yeah, I guess the only part that's tough for me is I could see, you know how they do it with Gordon Hayward. They did it with something else.
Starting point is 01:09:52 Was, you know, they show the picture of them young, and they meme it. And it's the meme like, you know, Gordon Hayward went from, I'll have your daughter home by mid. night to now your daughter calls me daddy. Like I could see three years from now. We're talking about a Nick Lopez, all-star shortstop, who it's like, Nikki Lopez is now Nick Lopez. Tom Ace in the chat said that someone called Nikki slash Nikki and I KKI is always hot.
Starting point is 01:10:25 And I knew a Nikki who was very attractive girl that I liked a lot. So maybe Tom Ace is on something. Nikki. I don't know if I knew any Nickies. N-I. Yeah, I knew a new one. One of my best friends in the world.
Starting point is 01:10:43 Go on. Name Nick Santoro, just like the guy Nikki Santoro in casino. One of my best friends to this day. Just talked to him yesterday. Pretty cool. That's awesome.
Starting point is 01:11:01 That's the end of the story. Sue of the last voicemail. Two more things. Last set of doubles, though. Yeah, Los Angeles Dodgers, number one Christmas wish is for Clayton Kershaw to return and retire a Dodger. However, my personal Christmas wish for him personally is that he gets exactly what he wants, whether that's retirement, signing a multi-deal with the Dodgers, or, if he wants to continue playing close to home with the Rangers or whatever, it'd be that.
Starting point is 01:11:40 Main thing is, for me, is that he gets what he wants. Hey, with the tagging baseball. My name is Daniel, and I'm calling from Los Angeles, California. And then I always want to wish you a happy holiday. But anyways, my favorite team are the Los Angeles Dodgers. And my biggest wish for them is that we need some starting pitching. We're like, we're lacking there. And then, like, next season, we're only guaranteed.
Starting point is 01:12:06 basically only guaranteed Walker, Bueller, and Julio Rivas. We do also have David Price and Tony Gonselin, but we don't know what we get from them. So, like, yeah, it's probably what we need the most, starting pitching. Like, that would be great, and probably two starters. One would be good, too, maybe Clayton Kirschah, I don't know. But thank you so much. Keep on doing what you're doing.
Starting point is 01:12:29 You guys are great. Thank you guys so much. Thank you. Bye. Okay. first caller a lot just wants Kirchall to be happy, which is
Starting point is 01:12:45 delightful. Also, like a lot of Kershaw retirement talk, I don't know, I don't know. I don't listen to a lot of Kershaw like rumors or interviews. I mean, the guy's 32 years old. He's not retired. I mean, I think he's probably looking for five years, 100 mil contract,
Starting point is 01:13:02 like what Bumgarner got, but a little up. I'm going to got five years 17. You think he wants to pitch for that long? He's 32. I don't know if he wants to pitch. for that long. At least he might say, I want a pitch for that long, but like that's, let's
Starting point is 01:13:15 break you down like a three and a two and we'll go from there. Well, he's going to want opt-outs for sure, but I mean, what did Madison, what did Bum get? When Bum was 29. It was like 580, 580? 580? I mean, Kershaw's still
Starting point is 01:13:32 really, really good. Yeah, yeah. I mean, look, it's just whatever he wants. Just like our caller said, whatever he wants. It's basically what Kershaw is going to get. And what's crazy he is. Okay, but if he wants five for 100, you think he can get that, right? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:13:48 From who? Well, from who? From who? From who? That's the thing. From one of the 30 teams. I mean, don't make me. Yes, yes, yes, yes. I think he can. I don't know if the Dodgers will go there. I don't know if they will. I don't know what their plan is. And it's crazy to think about all we ever talked about last year at the beginning of the year was, hey, the Dodgers have like infinity starting pitchers above average. and then now we're talking about,
Starting point is 01:14:14 hey, it's a little thin there. Dustin May, T.J. Kershast still, you know, not signed. Treb? He's done. He's out. Trev had a coughing fit and now he's gone.
Starting point is 01:14:32 I think I inhaled like an actual dust something. Anyways. Crazy to think that we're talking about their pitching after what we said about them. earlier last year. That first caller sounded like a phenomenal lover. He just cares much.
Starting point is 01:14:53 And then yeah, I mean, I think Clayton's going to get kind of what he wants. Like he's still a legend and he's not bad. Like he got a little banged up. There's a ton of mileage. Wait, we're done again. You got to judge someone like that differently. No, I think they said RIP to you tribe
Starting point is 01:15:13 because you died. Yeah, I think that. Everyone was first. frozen on my screen. God, Trevor. You guys aren't frozen. You're not frozen for me. Toggle your video.
Starting point is 01:15:26 You're a killer. You're back now. We're back. That's huge. Clayton. Dude, here's, maybe this is a hot take, and I genuinely don't know if Dodgers fans will hate this or love this, but doesn't it, it kind of seems like a pretty clear move on point.
Starting point is 01:15:47 like again this is kershaw's decision if he wants to stay in l a it's fine but like you know they got they got the ring in 2020 his the next part of his career isn't going to be the same clayton kershaw like i think that's fair to say because he was one of the best pitchers ever and he's getting older like doesn't this seem like if there's ever a time to shake hands and keep it moving and go back home to dallas like yeah like this seems like a pretty clean break to do it depends on what he wants And I think you said the same thing about him like two years ago. And then he's been really good since he, I mean, Scherzer and, and Wayno were,
Starting point is 01:16:26 we're, you know, big, big guys. Like it's just got deals in 38 and 41. Like he's 32 years old. We're talking about someone. I know he's, he's got a lot of miles on him. But if you're just looking at age, like, I, if he says I want to pitch two more years and, and, and be done, I did. what I want to do and out, then I would say, just do with the Dodgers, then and be a Dodger for life.
Starting point is 01:16:52 I can, I can, I can see that happening. If Kershaw says, no, I want to, I want to keep going. I can see a world where we have a 39 year old Kershaw as a number two, three in a rotation being, I'm not going to doubt his ability to be what Scherzer and Wainer are doing if he wants to do that. He's got a curveball and a slider. It's like a power pitcher. So, um, that's where I, that's where I, I'm not going to. say that he's going to be it's a new kershaw like i think he can still be one of the best pitchers
Starting point is 01:17:22 in baseball for the next five years he's got all the talent in the world so if he only wants to play two more years i'd say stay with the dodgers because of one team career is awesome if he wants to pitch for five then yeah it would be like a pivot point do the second half of your career somewhere else what about the comp to mad bump wouldn't that be the counter to that well madmoe's a power pitcher who was like getting worse and really losing his stuff like a lot of the analytics were out on that. Kershaw had a three, five ERA last year and a year before that, like two. It's very good pitcher.
Starting point is 01:18:02 I have trade rumors free agent prediction sheet up. They got him listed as the 33rd best overall free agent. They haven't predicted for a one year 20. That's right. He's going to get what he wants. I just don't know. We just don't know what he wants. I mean, I just don't think the five-year deals are there.
Starting point is 01:18:20 And I'm not really sure why. I just maybe that's what people are here. And I don't know because, yes, his numbers have been, his numbers have been fine. And that four-year, you know, would still pay for the quality of starter that he is. But why are, why are everyone, why is everyone saying one or two years? Has he come out and said, hey, I got a couple years left than me? Yeah, I know there's like injuries and stuff and the healthy and all that, but I don't know. that's why that's what I don't know that either either I don't know if he's that kind of how I
Starting point is 01:18:52 open like I haven't tuned in it's it it's you know they didn't offer from the qualifying qualifying offer which is that's interesting or telling isn't it I mean I think that means they want they want the draft pick and they know he's going to get more than that you have to offer the qualifying offer to the draft pick they did not offer him the qualifying oh they did not offer Yeah. So that's what is it is that what's you know causing a pause like are they saying oh we hit they must know something about the arm? It's interesting. I have no idea. All I know is stats are still very, very good. Okay. Last one. Yes. Run it. Hey, what's up guys? BBD. Aeros fan here. My number one Christmas wish. is that I can tell them I'm an Astros fan and that people will still talk to me afterwards. So thank you guys.
Starting point is 01:20:02 Have a good one. Absolutely. Why are people mad at Astros fans? What do they do? Well, some of them are mean to me. Well, to you, yeah, I understand why you have a problem because they've basically did voodoo dolls of you. But like anybody else, why are you mad at the Astros fans?
Starting point is 01:20:24 They had nothing to do with this. They, you should feel bad for Astros fans. I mean, they got to experience some amazing things, but then kind of the soul ripped out of it a little bit. I mean, maybe you're just indifferent because they did get to experience actually winning a world series. You can never take that away from them. But like I said, afterwards, I take a little bit of the soul out of it.
Starting point is 01:20:48 I don't know. Always welcome here. I ain't mad at him. Yeah. Unless you're mean. Okay. I mean, great job. Thanks to everyone to calling in.
Starting point is 01:21:01 A little recap here. angels. We got Rodon and Louise Castillo. I think Castillo should be on more people's wishless. Cubs, Correa, a 10-year deal or story. St. Louis, Poole's reunion tour, or story. Giants. Joey Bart
Starting point is 01:21:16 to be good. Pittsburgh, to get a new team to keep Brian Reynolds, O'Neill Cruz to get good. New York, Olson, Boston, Story, Schwarber, Brewers, run support for Woodruff, Matt's, sign one-year guys
Starting point is 01:21:32 to trade him or sign young guys, Padres, something to go right, Chris Bryant and left. Royals, Nikki Lopez to stay good. Dodgers, Kershaw return and just to get what he wants, Houston to be liked as a, as a baseball thing. A lot of good wishes. What do you wish for, Jake? For clean Kershaw to be happy, just like that other guy. You too. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:22:09 And a shortstop. Mm. Shortstop. Yeah. All right, cool. Are we recording next week? What's our plan? We are doing one episode next week.
Starting point is 01:22:21 You tell me, boss. We had mapped it out. I don't know. Do you remember BBD? We'll figure it out. I think it'll just be one. I think it'll just be one episode next week. Everyone enjoy your Christmas if you celebrate Christmas.
Starting point is 01:22:34 If not, enjoy whatever you do on these days. happy time And then, uh-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-o.

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