Talkin' Baseball (MLB Podcast) - 439 | Your Team's No. 1 Christmas Wish
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Hello and welcome to talking baseball.
Christmas is coming up.
Everybody has a wish and we need to know what your fan base is wishing for from your team.
Let's do it.
Hello and welcome to talking baseball brought to you by Draft Kings.
My name is Jimmy.
We got Trevor in California.
We got Jake in Manhattan and BBD in the Bronx.
A little triple remote episode.
So be prepared for the internet bug to fight us.
We got four different internets coming together and we're live streaming it.
So it's going to crash at one point.
Hopefully it's not brutal.
Jake, how you doing?
Sitting on the floor wearing a sweater that looks very similar to the couch.
It does.
It does.
It's made out of the couch.
I skinned the couch this morning to make this.
Move the blanket away and you might look like a floating head.
You have a white blanket behind you.
It's my back pillow.
I'll do it.
As Trev mentioned, I'm having a bad time over.
here.
Got boosted this morning,
threw a little bullpen cess yesterday.
Whoops.
So both arms are feeling it.
Got to get ready for, you know,
flitzball season, 22.
We wrapped up the 2021 season.
And, man, we're wrapping up the whole year and we're wrapping up
your team's Christmas list.
We're back in five.
No,
I'm excited to yuck with the boys.
When Trev busts out is two-four hat,
that's when I know it's going to be a tasty day.
Hey, so, you know, what's your hat about?
Me.
So I'm excited.
You know, you brought me to this point.
Yeah.
We were talking last night.
We were both pumping each other's gas a little bit.
And I said, you know what, today,
it's not the 24th of December,
but it's close enough.
and me and the 24th have a lot in common.
Do you know what it is?
It doesn't matter what you think it is.
Don't worry about it.
James,
how are you doing?
I'm doing good, man.
I love Christmas.
Christmas week is really sneaking up.
Really sneaking up on me.
I haven't gotten my brother a present yet
because I had something in mind
and now it's kind of like not an option,
but I still might try to run with it.
But we actually exchanged those presents on Christmas Eve.
so I'm fine.
But yeah,
I'm gonna write him an IOU?
No,
probably just give him an empty box and say,
give one of your dogs.
Could?
There's a limit.
There's a limit on the price.
I'd have to like,
you know,
get that vetted out,
like how much does my dog worth
kind of like,
you know,
blue book for dogs.
Do they have that?
That'd be a hilarious website.
Of course they do.
How old is it?
Medical record.
Like,
Okay, your dog is worth 50 bucks.
Like, oh, shit.
I mean, if there was a, if there was like a $30 limit on the gift, I mean, technically
payment wise, like you've lost money on the dog.
Like it's kind of worse negative, negative dollars.
So I think that would play.
Okay.
Hmm.
I'll ask Katie.
Dogs are expensive.
Are they?
Some.
Like half.
Okay.
Sometimes you just find them.
Does make for a great video.
Oh, yeah.
I love those things.
I did the pound route.
I got two dogs in the pound.
They're no longer with us, RIP.
Hmm.
Okay, so just to let everyone know,
we got 88 voicemails from you guys.
I appreciate it very much.
That's awesome.
BPD appreciates it.
Also, hate you guys because you had to sift through 88 different
voicemails to find the top like 15
that could fit into our time frame here.
I'm sure there's a lot of repeats,
a lot of fan bases calling saying the same wish.
So credit to Bebers for going through those and credit to our audience for giving us 88 different voicemails.
That's awesome.
Thanks for engaging.
Are you guys ready?
Should we just jump in?
Jake's not ready.
Does anyone wear 88 in baseball?
Is there any double eight?
No.
It's like a bat boy, BB, a pitcher.
We'll get our research team on it.
I like it.
double snowman
I mean it's a huge football
it's a huge hockey
not so much basketball I guess
dude I saw a guy playing defense
yesterday with number
Billy Cock
pardon me
Billy Cock
so Willie Cock
Ward number 88 and Kyle Banks
Bob Pantera guys
we totally blanked on that
chat helping us out
the chat is helping us
out.
What will we be without the chat and our fans?
Nothing.
Just absolute horseshit.
I would just be a guy that blends in with his couch.
Albert Bell listed as the best to ever wear number 88.
Hmm.
He was good.
Good one.
We're number eight with the Indians and white socks.
But in Baltimore, they couldn't wear eight, so we wore 88.
Joey.
Let's get all the double number sexy.
I mean, Hank Aaron kind of wrapped up 44.
Judge is doing a great job on 99 right now.
I think Gretzky kind of gets that one now.
I think it kind of actually, I think it goes, Gretzky for you, judge.
I wouldn't give it to Gretzky for baseball.
I still would to be like, honest.
Go.
I think his son played minor league baseball.
How about that?
Who hasn't?
son-in-law is a pretty good golfer.
Yeah.
Let's go to the first voicemail.
Well, we're starting off with a double.
Okay.
All right, what's going on talking baseball?
Hey, my name's Tyler, and I'm an angel fan,
and I've got to tell you the one thing that my team really wants this year is Carlos Rodon.
This guy can head a freaking rotation like nobody other.
Last year, he just showed that he could be one of the best pitches in baseball,
even though years prior he hasn't really been so.
I think that he should be the first guy that the Angels would go for after the lockout,
solidify the rotation, him, Otani, Sindegard,
and Patty Sandoval will just be so good.
Man, I just can't wait for this lockout to finally end,
and we can finally see the Angels be as nasty as they can be.
People are underrating them, boys.
All right, thank you guys. Jake sucks.
Yes.
What up, John Boy, Jake, BBD, Zach.
How are you guys doing, Tread?
I'm in South Orange County, big fan of the Angels here.
My team, that's my boys.
All right.
The whole offseason, I was saying that we should get Marcus Stroman.
He went to the Cubs.
That kind of pissed me off.
He was a guy who pitches so many innings and is always healthy.
And then we just didn't try.
But I think the Angels should trade for Luis Castillo.
I think he should be the best guy to help anchor the staff.
and maybe if you got a few more bucks left over,
get a Rodana Kershaw,
but I think Castillo is the biggest guy
on the market the Angels can get.
All right, thanks, guys.
Adds up to give two.
Thank you to the two guys that called in,
representing the Angels, adds up.
And I think, you know, last time we talked about the Angels
and I said, I thought they still needed more starting pitching.
And I think a resident, Angel fan, Nate Steele,
said that we do.
He agreed.
Because they have Lorenzen as a starter,
but he's been a reliever.
So they need a starter.
Rodon, Castillo.
So that's good to know.
Angels fans are still just looking out there.
The Reds are going to trade Luis Castillo, right?
Like they basically said they're trading everyone.
Him and Sunny Gray.
I'm in for it.
I don't think they need one more starting pitcher.
I think they need two more starting pitchers.
And I like both of those guys.
I mean, if you, when you start to add depth like that,
then we can start to wish upon your rotation and your season.
Like, you know, Sindegarde is, I hope he comes out and is freaking awesome and lights out,
but it's a question mark still.
Patty Sandoval, I dig him.
Got a couple of his rookie card, autos, my bad.
So I'm wishing big things for him.
But yeah, Carlos Rodon, and you get Castillo in there to go along with Otan.
The angels can hit.
They can swing the bat.
Like, this is obviously what they need.
I'm proud of our fans.
I think when we did our Halo's preview last year,
we had some Angels fans get mad at us and be like,
you know, stop with the starting pitching stuff.
Like, actually our guys are our guys.
And I love you, but that wasn't right.
And, you know, they go out and they've gotten Noah.
And you're, you know, they do need to make,
if they could sign one more guy, and I'm interested to see how the rest of the voicemails go,
Carlos Rodon, man, he is sitting pretty because who knows what's going on with Kershaw?
He's going to do whatever the hell he wants.
Rodon is the best true free agent starting pitcher.
I mean, after him, you're looking at, like, Grinky, you're looking at Tyler Anderson.
Like, he, uh, my guy's sitting pretty right now.
I think he's going to get a big boy payday.
five Cy Young last year.
Lefty who pumps it. Let's go.
I think with Rodan is he, I think is they, you know, they used him a lot earlier on.
And I think the back half of the season, he averaged like four innings.
He did get, um, you know, the white socks were competing and he, they did
non-tender him. And then they did sign him, but you want, you wonder about the shoulder and
the innings and then the risk of having Cinderguard who you're,
big time worrying about the show the innings and the arm and rodon and i'd like them to get
a sure thing it sounds rude you know but um that's why i like i like kind of the second caller
where he said like go get castillo and then go get um rodon or someone else in the back end
because louise cassio has made 30 starts three of his last 12 well that
in 2020 it was a half season.
So I mean, he's he pitches.
And the results are always top line guy, three ERA.
And he doesn't miss starts.
So I'd like the angels to get another guy that like doesn't have any really lingering doubt on.
Compete my compete thing.
Like he's going to pitch majority of the games and he's going to give you a good outing.
Because they still kind of have doubts.
And then Rodan still comes with a little bit of that,
Even though the pitches he did throw in the innings he did pitch last year were phenomenal.
It's just I think he really tapered down towards the end of last season.
Do we have anybody else coming up, like prospect people that are supposed to do it for them?
Where's our guy Nate Steele?
Is he in our chat right now?
I'm looking at their, you know, top prospects.
Read Detmercy.
He's a starter, right?
He's a legit prospect, yep, but still very, like, fresh out of college.
Yeah.
Well, you look, it's been their need for a long time, and it's nothing to be ashamed about because it's a lot of teams' needs, but it's a big need.
So, yeah, go out.
And to your point, James, like I said, like, you got to just have insurance policies in depth.
Depth is key.
Like, teams that have depth, like, win.
So I don't think you stop at one.
I think you go for two.
And then you just, now you have a bunch of, I don't want to call them lottery tickets, but you have a bunch of, but you have a bunch of chance.
Some of them are going to work. Some of them aren't.
You just need to hold a bunch of, you know, good ballplayers and good starters.
It would be good.
Let's go next voicemail.
My wish, I lost Correa to a 10-year deal, or maybe Trevor Story, would love to get another starting pitcher, and let's go.
Let's get to NL Central.
I know people think the Cubs are not a contention, but I think if we get Correa and another starter,
or in maybe Nicastiano's will be also a nice addition, get his bat in there.
Let's go Cubs.
Wow.
After the Stroman signing, the Cubs are now a team where you're thinking, well,
why would they spend that much money on the next two years if they're not going to spend
more money on the next two years?
So I think all Cubs fans kind of like wishes and hopes changed and kind of up the ante.
And I agree.
And I kind of forgot that they are still players when we get out of this lockout to go
get more guys. Otherwise, the Stroman deal is incredibly odd. You think they're in on Correa, Jake?
Yeah, my thing was I gave my Cubs speech. I think next year's the find out year. They've got so
many guys in their starting lineup. You've got this crop of 30-year-olds that broke out last year. Go look at
Raphael Ortega's staff. Frank Schwindle, Patrick Wisdom. They all had awesome like half seasons at age
30. So I don't really know what you do with that. Our guy, Ian Hap, watch out for him in the MVP
race, Jason Hayward. And then they have all these young guys up the middle between Nick
Magrigal and Nico Horner that, you know, guys who are legit proffers. Are we live still,
Beavers? Yeah, the stream didn't die or anything. We're still, we all are. It's all our. It was just all
of us. We should probably stop like no fan graphs, baseball reference and just shoot from the hip.
Because that's that's what crap.
That's what I toggled me up when I was started going through fan graphs.
Really?
I started going.
I have no idea how it works.
But maybe we use less,
less and less.
But I got to have the chat up though.
I know.
I like the chat too.
Maybe the chat on your phone.
I don't know.
There he is.
There's that couch boy.
Jake,
I believe the last thing,
uh,
you said was Nico Herner.
A lot of Cub stuff.
I listened to it all.
Jake.
You were a great take, man.
We were in the boy.
I heard it as well.
Yeah, I could hear it.
The three of us were in the void, so I saw the screen freeze, but I saw you guys.
I kept rolling.
Next year's the find out what we got here for the Cubs.
I don't see them putting all their chips on the table next year.
Do you think Correa has a $300 million suitor out there?
Is it the Yankees?
He already did, right?
Well, the rumor was he turned down the Tigers.
10 for 300?
I thought it was less than that.
It was $2.75 or something like that.
Okay.
And dude, I mean, he was supposed to set the market.
I don't, do you see him getting over Seeger anywhere?
Yeah.
And if he doesn't get a long-term deal that he wants,
like, does he run it back in Houston for one year on a huge AAV?
Like, I don't think he does.
Like, you got to go get the money.
now like whatever money you can go get go get it there's just he's going to sign somewhere i don't
i just don't know if he's going to get as much as he initially thought he's going to get a bag
i'd assume wait and see the cubs now we know are part of that hopeful wishing for it
i'm correct caray is going to get paid i think trev you know huge fantasy football guys it's
playoff season now i think i'm going to compare it i think i'm going to compare it to an auction
draft when you see
one of the top players is up there
and he's going below value and you're like
well screw it I'm the Phillies
I'm going to throw a bit on Correa if this
is his price. Well screw it I'm the
Cubs if this is Correa's price
and then it's eventually going to get back
to where he is going to be the top
dog. That's what I keep saying during this lockout
teams are stewing there looking at their
rosters saying like what can we do
it's a big roster stew
in the front office right now
because they can't talk to players
they can just look at them
Jake's more into
which is bruise than stews
I love a good stew
I have this recipe
I swear I'm going to send you guys
I might just put in the chat right now
it's excellent
put it in the chat
don't crash all the internet again though
let's go to the next voice now
yeah go go Correa
another double
what's up boys
and hey
first off I'd like to say Jake
you're looking swore right now
that's what I'm talking about
But yeah, so I'm a St. Louis Cardinals fan, okay?
And I think the thing that I would like for them to do this winter is to sign Albert
Pujol to a one-year contract, reunion tour, baby.
That was my guy growing up.
I know he's kind of old now.
We can't really do much, but, you know, that's just go out with Wayne O'Niati.
Why not?
By the way, I love the show, boys.
Keep going.
Wow.
Okay.
How's it going?
Talking Adam.
Jake sucks.
Let's go Trevor Plouf.
100 home run club.
He's the best.
The same with Cardinals are my team.
Diehard fan.
And we need some pitching,
but mostly we know they're bad.
Either there's a DA,
or just in general,
we need a short stop.
And I want Trevor's story.
That is what I want.
I want to bring him back to Nolan.
I want to reunite them.
The Young sucks.
Sosa's pretty mid.
You know,
we really need a short step.
stop and we were never going to get Correa or Seeger and we were never going to get Sibbion.
Story's kind of always been the only option for us.
So I like Story.
I want him.
And I could use Rodom too.
You know, we need a starter.
So, yeah, Jake sucks.
This is starting to open.
I think a lot of people's eyes because baseball is such a sport where you don't really,
you don't hear other fan bases.
You're so regional.
You listen to your radio, your Twitter, your whatever like it is.
we got a lot of teams that one think think they can get Trevor story or that their front
office is like looking around and same with Rodon like I think Rodon stock and not that is
maybe the price doesn't go up but like the amount of offers that from fan bases at least is more
than I would guess or I don't know we'll just keep going but I didn't have the Cardinals and
story on my watch list at all maybe it is Jake says no there was a tweet out there circulate
last night. It was going over all like the projected stats for the Cardinals and how balance
their team is. They're close. So like this is what I'm saying. I feel like I keep making
the same point. When you're that close, like they think they have a really good team, but maybe
they need something to go over the top. Like teams can convince themselves to go pull trades,
you know, go out for a story. I don't think it's far-fetched. I got to look at the payroll
and see what they're willing to do.
But if you're close and you've got a window
and you got Jack Flaherty leading the way
and you're still paying them nothing,
like it's,
you could convince yourself to go after some of these big name guys.
I'd like to see the birds get a little more pitching.
I mean, you can say that for every team, obviously.
I just think when we start talking the actual financial side of this
in St. Louis, I know you're a great city
and I know every owner has money,
but if they pay Trevor Story,
you're now paying Aeronado story and Goldschmidt.
That's just it.
Those are your infielders.
You're paying them big boy money.
I just personally don't see the Cardinals doing that.
If they do, I do think that would make them like one of the favorites around baseball.
Albert Pooleholz, I'm going to walk all over Trev and Chris Rose when they tried to big time me at first when Chris Rose just joined.
And he was giving me a whole speech how Poo Holes is going to join the Orioles.
and I said, Albert Pujos does one thing.
He mash his lefties.
Albert Pujos last year, 2021, 939 OPS first lefties.
Whoever brings them in, there's DH spots.
Go hit some lefties, knock it around.
And why not St. Louis and make it a story?
I'm all about a good storyline.
Win it for Albert.
Let's have a day, babe.
I have a question to your question as an answer.
Yes. Why not, Albert, why not St. Louis? They're good and they're competing. And if they were not good, if they were not guaranteed to be competing for number one, I would say 100% bring him back. If there's a DH in the NL, play them and make it the pool's reunion tour.
The tribe from a player's point of view, Cardinals players right now that are kind of have it weren't like, would that be annoying to have a place?
Latune DH be the story every day and it be known as Paul's reunion tour season when they're good and they're trying to win.
And would it, would it be a distraction that the players right now kind of would be like,
this is a little bit of a circus when for compete year or is there any of that?
Or would everyone embrace it and love it because it's pulls and everyone loves pulls.
Genuine question.
Yeah, I think that's, you gave yourself the answer to at the end.
It's Pujol's with the Cardinals.
That's a whole different story here.
You know, if we're talking some guy that has, you know,
no history with the organization he comes in,
I've said it about guys.
I'm not going to say who, but go home.
Like, give the kids a chance.
There's always that sentiment because you're fighting for, you know,
26 roster spots and there's a lot of freaking baseball players.
So there is that.
You always want your chance.
But Pujo is going back to St. Louis.
I think one, you're right, they wouldn't do.
do it if they didn't think he could help them because they are they're here i mean i am looking
at their bench and it's thin like go ahead and look at fangrass roster resource their bench there's a
bunch of guys there's two guys with no service time that they're projected to have you know like
having a guy who has a 930 ops against lefties i don't think it's a bad idea i like it
he has so kind of so kind of a thought process for all fans if the d h goes to the n
and you need someone to hit lefties like full like what's great is there's a lot of those guys
out there you know there's a lot of guys with that split like they can hit cross-handed
pitching so this the dh bing in the nl now you know hopefully uh is going to open up a lot of jobs
for those platoon dh days for sure and i think that's cool and let's bring the back the bench like
I know our guys Peter Moylan and Jerry Blevins kind of got screwed by the three batter rule.
But Albert Pujos, like, start them against a couple lefties.
So there's 50 games a year.
And then you pinch hit them when they bring in that lefty reliever and you got two on.
Like Albert Pujos is still a threat.
Like, let's bring back the bench.
I know NL ball is dead and we use the bench.
Let's actually bring back the bench and, like, use it in a fun way to make the product better.
The only problem is the Cardinals don't have any lefty hitter.
So I don't know if they're getting that lefty reliever.
We got.
Getting out of the what?
They're getting a, like they don't have a top lefty hitter that an opposing team would bring a lefty reliever in.
Oh, sure.
That would hit in front of Poole's to kind of trap a lefty against Poole's.
They are a heavy right, heavy right handed team.
So, I mean, Poole's maybe doesn't necessarily fit.
Yeah, yeah.
now that I'm looking at it
because they are all right-handed.
There's Carlson and Edmund that are Switch.
Man.
Can you talk yourself into
pinch hitting for Edmund?
If you want to bring Paulson to face lefties,
you need to put a lefty batter ahead of them
to get the lefty in the game.
Or I was thinking lefty start like a lefty starter,
but that's 50 games,
you know,
like they don't need that though.
Look at their line.
Now I'm walking back.
everything I'm saying. It's all righties.
It's all righties. Well, let's move on.
Thank you to the two St. Louis callers. Appreciate it.
What up talking, baseball. This is Jimmy
from Rio Vista, California, calling in talking
about the SF Giants' number
one Christmas wish. That's
Joey Bart having a good
20-22 season. He needs playing time
and he needs to get better at Major League
at bat. He's supposed to take the place
of the now retired Buster Posey.
So the team is really looking
at this guy to become their premier
catcher. He's supposed to take over that
role and become not really a leader in the sense as he'll be a rookie, but they do have
pitching basically figured out for the 2022 season.
They probably won't do a whole lot more.
They'll have some reclamation pieces, but they want to have Joey Bart have a good enough
season to where he can lead the team, hopefully, into the next decade.
Thanks for the show, guys.
Jake sucks.
Can't have that.
That's what I fucking want.
Peace, guys.
What is that caught at the end?
What?
what was the end quote that he said
I can't have that that's what I
fucking want
BBD you're laughing
is that from a show
I don't know but it made me laugh a lot
yeah that was pretty good I guess
okay no context here
don't be mad if it's really bad
thanks Jimmy
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Giants fans are in for a little bit,
maybe of a rude awakening,
losing one of the premier,
uh,
hitting catchers like constantly
OPS plus above 100.
And they're going to maybe,
I'm not saying this specifically about Jerry Bart,
see how nice they had it for a while.
Yes.
They had a unicorn.
They really did.
And I totally agree.
like once once you have one of those and then you don't have one that's like going to a nice sushi
place you level up at sushi you can't go back like if you go to your regular spot that's good
then you go to this you know other place not as good you hate it and i think that's kind of
what they're going to be dealing with there in san franc unless our boy joey who who
hit in triple a last year he only played 67 games there must have been some sort of lingering issue
going on.
But he's hitting the minor leagues,
you know, big leagues are a little bit different,
but we're rooting for Joey.
It'd be nice for the giants
to just have nice sushi,
you know, again, for the next decade.
As someone who eats traditionally
bad sushi,
I'm rooting for Joey Bart.
And I do think it deserves
to be said, like,
I know minor leaguers or minor leaguers
or minor leaguers, and we're comparing
him to a guy who's either a Hall of Famer
or a fringe Hall of Famer,
wherever you want to put him.
So that is going to be, that's kind of eye opening to me.
That's just going to be a brutal ask however it plays out.
And especially, you know, the giant season was magical and it was awesome.
And we'll see if they replicated.
If they don't, I mean, that's one of the easiest fingers to point, right?
Because Buster Posey worked with the pitchers and he was, everything he did offensively was also gross.
I mean, Joey Bart was like a top 20 prospect at one point.
So the guy definitely has real talent in there.
It's just where does it land?
And I mean, I think what Jim was trying to drive home is if Joey Bart plays 110 games for you
and has an OPS plus around 100, that's a pretty nice catcher.
And Giants fans have been used to something very different for the past decade or so.
So tough ass for Joe Bark.
is that's you're saying that if he has good defense
because if you got if you don't have good defense
and you're hitting right around 100
you shouldn't be starting
I think defense is paramount at the catcher position
I think most teams would say that
you know you just want to have a guy back there
that's going to steal you some strikes
you're pitching staff can have faith in
who can handle the pitching staff
the bat is always a bonus
or the other way you could just
an absolute banger and kind of like you know have a bunch of thumbs back there but
i think joe is going to be fine look at his minor league track record he's got an 860
ops throughout all the minor league seasons usually they say you knock off around like 15 to 20
percent off those numbers something like that did i just make that up i don't know i've heard that
before you take it you take an 800 ops a 775 something like that from your catcher if he's playing
decent defense 100 percent yeah
but do you know, like, a starting catcher is going to get how many played appearances?
They're going to play, you know, let's say 100 games, get like 400 played appearances.
Hopefully you want to play more than that, I think.
I don't know.
Maybe that's maybe the rest days are way more now.
But I'm saying, okay, so how many catchers do you think last year had 400 played appearances
and an OPS that started with an eight in baseball?
Two or three.
3.
No, yeah, Will Smith.
J.T.
Rill moot.
Didn't even have it.
He had a 70.
He didn't do.
So like you to say, for you to say Joey Bart should have an 800 OPS.
It's like a gigantic as a starting catcher.
It's a gigantic ask.
It's three people and all like three catchers in all the baseball last year did it.
So it's.
I just say it's giants fans.
You're in for a little bit of an awakening where you have to lessen to your is very, very, very
rare to have a starting catcher.
who plays four out of five games,
have an OPS that starts with an eight.
Hey, and Joey Bart, go be nasty.
Let's spin this the positive way.
Maybe in San Francisco,
we get a little Brett Farr to Aaron Rogers.
The torch is past.
Joey Bart's going to play an incredible decade of baseball,
rooting for that.
I got a lot of his rookie cards too.
Come on, Joey.
As your rookie cards.
And I want to circle back to St. Lou for a minute,
because, you know, one of my favorite thing about podcasting is Trevor's eyes.
After that, it's what you find along the way.
And guys, the Cardinals, and we're looking at roster resource,
they don't have a DH yet because that's not legal in the National League.
They're going to go out and sign a lefty DH.
How about a Schwabo?
How about someone like that?
So Cardinals fans, I know you have your eyes on story or whoever,
look for some of these big lefty boppers because that's what your team.
Missing.
Boom.
You're welcome.
GM Jake.
Crushed it.
Next on the table.
Hey, everyone.
How's it going?
I'm a Pirates fan.
My name's Alex.
Hi.
So a new team would be
preferable for my Grish list.
But if we want something reasonable,
please just let,
oh, no, crews develop
and we keep Brian Reynolds.
And I'll probably be satisfied for a year.
Thanks, guys.
All right, we have Pirates fan
and, you know, one new team
to just keep Brian Reynolds.
That's fair.
And a lot of teams, sorry,
sorry to our Pittsburgh brand that called in.
A lot of teams are asking for the exact opposite.
Yes,
they want the pirates to give away Ryan Reynolds.
What do we know about O'Neill?
Two last names.
We've seen him.
We've seen him.
He looks different on the field.
Like he stands out, six, seven.
He didn't like that short stop.
He saw him do that one time.
Yeah, I mean, what's, are they going to give him a shot?
You know, I know they got a couple guys at the middle.
Kotuck's kind of been playing everywhere.
He got a couple of bats last year.
Nine of bats, three hits and a homer.
Take that into the off season and pat yourself on the back.
Do you guys mind if I get a little heightest?
Yes.
You always do.
He's too tall to play shortstop.
It's just.
They said the same thing about Cal Rib.
can okay cow rip was what six three four five think him and jitz are about six four
six seven yeah too that's a lot that's a lot i agree to like move that quickly ripkin was six four
jeter was six six i thought jeter was always six three six three yeah six seven yeah six seven's a
yeah six seven's a different i totally agree like i i see this guy put a little weight on him
because he's 6, 7, 2, 10.
He looks skinny, but that doesn't sound too skinny.
6, 7, 2, 10.
That sounds like pretty nice build,
but he looks skinny when we saw him.
But I envision this guy.
Imagine this.
Imagine you're playing short stuff.
You're playing third base, and you get a ball in the hole,
and you got a spin and wheel and throw it over to first base,
and you got O'Neill Cruz,
big body hitting homers over there
with his arms stretched out
and can pick it from anywhere.
That's like a new breed of first baseman.
Six-seven.
How many six-seven first baseman have there been?
I mean, that's the thing, man.
Six-seven is rare air anywhere.
It's rare air.
Like, you know, third baseman aren't six-seven.
Like we're talking big sexy, Richie Sexton.
I mean, guys like that.
So here's my thing.
And this is the perks of being the Pittsburgh Pirates.
Let's throw them out at shortstop and see if the kid can break it for half a season.
And guess who he's got at third base?
Brian Hayes, a dude who's supposed to be a special, like, kind of all-time defensive third baseman.
So, O'Neill, don't even worry about third base.
Key's got it.
Play up the middle a little bit, and let's see what you got.
Trev, I kind of like the freakish first baseman athlete of the future, because we always talk about how it's undervalued.
I think you throw the kid out there.
Let's see what it looks like.
We love Alejandro Kirk because he can break the mold the opposite direction.
Let's see what O'Neill's got.
And then if you got to throw him in the outfield or first freak first baseman or whatever.
But I mean, let's see this dude play because if he can be a, I don't know, a brand of a Aaron Judge Light for the Pittsburgh Pirates, that's fun.
That makes you want to watch the Pittsburgh Pirates.
And that's what they need.
Start Cole Tucker, you fools.
You fools.
I just did some quick research.
I think
judge is the only
listed
taller than 6-7
position player in baseball.
Active?
6-7 or taller
active position player
in baseball.
You know what I love?
Sex.
Sin.
Richie Sexson.
The chat gave me that one.
Six, seven played first base
and some outfield two-time
All-Star got MVP votes.
it's been done before.
I think he had some fun nights.
Big sexy, Richie Saxon.
Are you kidding me?
From Brush,
Brush,
Prairie, Washington.
They grow them big up there.
Richie,
are you saying Richie Saxon played short?
Did I hear you?
No,
first base.
Oh, okay, yeah, yeah.
I don't think there's ever been a,
uh,
six,
seven shortstop.
How does Richie Sexson?
had 306 homers.
Yeah.
Only produced 18 war with that many homers.
The defense probably wasn't there for all rich.
Treb,
when people say,
you know,
part of the 100 home run club,
like that's so cool.
I've like made that up, though.
That's not like a real club.
I've like made it up.
But, you know.
Yeah, but I mean,
but, you know,
it's what,
uh,
what did the,
the Brewer's bench coach say to us when we talked to him,
Pat Murphy?
he said something along the lines of yeah all these guys have long careers in the pros
then when they retire because they're not hall of famers they just go around saying they sucked
and it's like you hit a hundred home runs like it's fucking i kind of did the opposite i sucked
and then i tell people i could play i could beat some middle schoolers there's a lot there's a lot
there's a lot of current debate going on yeah uh not really debate um it's a new tv show we're pitching
Jake, if we drop Jake, okay, randomly, um, onto a middle school baseball team,
how many teams would he be the best player on the team?
Middle school?
Yeah, you got like 14 year olds.
You know, some kids are big in middle school.
How am I?
Like the best of the best 14 year.
could you beat him?
Not a lot for 18 years, by the way.
Yeah.
13, I think is...
13 is 8th grade.
I think you'd
physical him to death.
I know you.
Low man wins kind of guy.
You'd intimidate him.
I think he could do it.
Someone actually posed this question to me on Twitter.
My good friend,
um,
he said,
how many or what,
at what age could a bunch of ex pro players
play with their opposite hands.
So like I throw lefty,
like at what age could teams beat us eventually?
Isn't spring the end of the year?
Baseball is the start of the beginning of the year is spring.
Starting.
Okay, then not a lot of 14 girls.
Because a lot of 8th graders are 14 when 8th grade ends.
I was 12 in 8th grade.
A lot of third graders in the chat,
13 year old 8th graders in the chat saying they would wax you.
So I know.
I'm ready to get waxed.
But you were really young because that was 14 when I think most people turned 14 started that year.
Most people turn 14 eighth grade, yes.
But it's a spring sport not a fall.
So that's where you get help.
I think they turn 14 freshman year.
No, you turn 15 freshman year.
You turned 16.
Sophomore year, you turned 17 junior, your turn 18 senior year.
Jake had a late birthday.
You were just very, very young for your age.
I was young for my grade too.
The answer lies somewhere in the middle.
Yeah, it's going to be a great YouTube headline.
Jake gets waxed by middle schoolers.
I'm giving him seven out of ten schools, but like,
and that's low.
And that's low.
I think the lowest of the office.
You go to California, I just don't think it's.
I would have whacked.
When I was 13 or 14, I was, I would have waged you.
Yeah, 100%.
Yes
Okay
You and Delman Young
We're on a team at that age
Delman would have whacked
Delman was throwing 90 miles an hour
So
Delman would have waxed me
Yeah you're right
Still would
You've got the whole northeast though Jake
Northeast
Midwest
A couple big boys
Next voicemail
Do we even answer the question
What was the question
That was
O'Neill Cruz
Brian Reynolds
Not a question.
They're letting us know what they're wishing for.
O'Neill's a shortstop in the new game last year.
Let the boy eat.
It is Sam from San Sports Talk.
I am here with a Christmas wish for you guys.
I'm a huge Yankees fan.
Okay.
And obviously the one thing that we want to figure out by the end of the offseason is what's going
on over at first base is Brazil going to come back or we're going to use voice.
But I guarantee you guys have heard this one a million to one times,
probably in these voicemails, is that we need to get Matt Olson to New York.
Fantastic left-handed back.
Gold Glover over there at first base.
My number one priority for the Yankees is Christmas.
All I want for Christmas is you, baby.
Matt Olsen to the Yankees.
Have a great day, guys.
It's a big one in Yankees world.
I don't think it's the number one on the list,
since they currently have some first baseman that can play there,
and they have zero short stops.
That can be the opening day shortstop.
But it is,
Yankees fans got a lot of the wishes right now.
I think number one in Yankeesland is a shortstop.
shortstop. Where do you guys land on that? I mean, I'm sure you've talked about it a bunch.
I'm talking yanks. We just did an entire episode, all on just all the shortstop options. So if
you're interested, I saw you point a fake gun at Jake's face. Yep. It's rude. Well, no,
that's tradition. We've been doing that since 2018. You make a lot of different decisions when
a gun is to your head, Treve. You're really honest with yourself. Jake said Korea's coming.
Yeah.
Yeah.
No spoilers.
I know.
No spoilers.
Yeah, it's just, I don't know who's actually going to empty the bank roll for Correa.
Like it's if the Dodgers come into play and Trey Turner would have to play second or Correa would have to agree to play third, which tell Carlos Correa the best shortstop platinum glove winner that you're signing with the Dodgers to play third base.
I just don't see that happening.
Matt Olson, man, it seems like such a goddamn fit, that lefty swing Yankee Stadium.
He's kind of a Yankee.
I know he's got a nice bird.
What?
Like he's like he shakes a firm.
Like Treb, no, we're saying this as a shot at the Yankees.
Like the Yankees have gone a little too boring.
Like the Yankees love boring.
But Matt Olson, like he wears a nice vest and he shakes your hand firmly.
And he he says the right thing.
Like the Yankees need a little.
a little more swag, a little more uptick.
I mean, Matt Olen's beautiful, and he'll say my daughter.
But that lefty swing at the stadium and go check out his statistics.
He's incredible.
It's just who else is going to pay the troll toll to see that boys' hole because, I mean, he's awesome.
Oh, my God.
What the, I'll taste other dudes.
Oh, God.
I think he's more swaggy than you give him credit for.
That's what I think.
I think he put him in the bright lights in New York
the guy might develop something
he's Mark Toshera but cooler I think
I don't know about the statistics how they
line up but I know Mark Tashare wasn't
That's tough to like Mark Tashare is like one of the most
Zero Swag players to ever play in the MLB
So it's tough to say like he's a notch up from that
Because that means that like he gives a good high five basically
You didn't let me finish
I feel like Tashare is a kind of guy you don't worry about New York
He's not going to cause any ruckus
I think Matt Olson's the same thing.
Not going to get in any trouble.
I think along those lines are the same.
But I think, I mean, just the way he finishes,
like that finishes.
Matt Olson has a finish that nobody else has.
Like, he's going to turn that into something.
The crowd's going to love it.
He's going to develop that under these big bright lights.
He's playing Oakland right now.
Yeah, that's as gritty as it comes.
Do you like, let him get some nice dinners.
I think you and Jake are saying the same thing then.
I think you guys are saying the same thing.
So while he's not number one on my.
wish list it would be very nice okay I'm a greedy Yankees fan I got three which
who's your who's your I mean I don't want to give away your whole episode but do you
have like a short stuff that you're keen on now it's basically what it boils down
to is that if the Yankees don't sign Correa or story and I think I'd rather
story on a shorter contract just the 10 years scares me even though Cray's could
be the best option there also couldn't be the best option they're very similar
numbers the last couple years story just had a weaker last year
I lean story right now.
I reserve the right to change my mind.
But if they don't get one of those two,
they're like,
they're like,
they're like fucked.
That's what,
that's what's crazy is story just gets like overlooked.
Like,
yeah,
he's just going to take like two year deal with no money.
It's like bullshit.
This guy's a player.
You think his agent's going to roll over?
Like,
no,
he's still going to cost money.
I think like the last three years,
they have the same OPS plus.
Defense is there.
And there's concerns about Story's arm,
but Story can steal.
bags like crazy. So it's, you know, have a good year when you become a free agent. It changed a lot.
That's true. Oh, this was a something, a comment that I didn't say a while ago is do is the Cubs,
Jake, all those 30 year olds that like are having a good year. Like don't try to see if anyone's got
interested in some of those guys. It seems like trade interest. Yeah. Yeah. I don't think they have
trade value because they only have like a half season of work.
I would I would pepper, just pepper feelers around.
Some of those, some of those guys are not saying all of them and not saying specifically
any, I have no idea.
One of those guys' value will never be as high as it is right now.
Others might come back up.
Even if it's not much, it'll never be more than it is now for some of them.
Shwendy said, baby.
Trust me, they're thinking about all these options.
you know,
suck to see Patty Wisdom
have to leave Chicago,
but dude, if that means he's just going to get
like a real opportunity somewhere.
He's going to get an opportunity in Chicago too,
so it's like he's blocked.
Yeah.
I'm excited to see what those guys do next year,
wherever they're at.
Let's move on to the next voicemail.
Another double.
All right, my favorite team,
the Boston Red Sox,
their Christmas wish,
simple is this.
Kyle from Wall
him. Dude mashes. He's the heart and soul of the team, buying pizza for those firefighters,
and just opened up a spot in the outfield for him. Hunter Renfro, traded to Milwaukee. We know
J.B.J. is not going to play every day. His bat doesn't live up to that. But Schwabber, my man,
he rakes, he matches, crushed coal in the playoffs, crushed pretty much everyone last year.
He's going to be what the Red Sox need for a great 2022 season market.
it.
Okay.
So we got Jack and I don't know what the first one was.
What did Jack want?
His mom,
his mom put her ass in the water again.
Been there, mom.
Story to the Red Sox.
Get that.
Everyone wants to hear.
Yeah, what do they need him for?
That first time you fall in the toilet is tough.
No,
the toilet in Puerto Rico was huge.
I was like, Katie, I don't know if I think I'm going to fall in.
This is like,
Daddy.
Yeah. Um, yeah, man, this, again, the fantasy football auction equation, I think the Boston Red Sox, I think is this Bogots last year in his contract. Um, so they're just, they're daydreaming. And you bring story to play short. You move Bogots to second because, uh, his defensive stuff has, has never been great. And I, you know, he's about to hit. He's 29 heading towards 30. Um, and then you can kick Kike out to center to man it with Jackie Bradley.
I get where the daydream happens, but again,
Red Sox needs, I don't think Story or Correa's final price tag lands where they want it.
Schwabow, absolutely.
I mean, that guy, I mean, when he's making fun of himself at first base,
if you want to hit one 450 and go yard,
or if you want to slap one off the monster, he's a beautiful creature.
Everyone wants Schwerber.
Everyone wants story.
it's just bottom line here.
Shorber's a good fit for the Red Sox.
They should really bring him back.
I think.
I agree with that.
Like the caller said,
like just like personality wise,
fun wise,
there's spots for him to play.
Dimensions of the stadium aren't perfect for him.
But I think he's,
I mean,
in a playoff game or like down the stretch to,
not a playoff game,
down the stretch to botcha play
and then make the same play later in the inning
and just wave to the crowd and take a bow for yourself.
That is some like,
balls and fun personality that that fits in in that area so but you know where you get that to
experience in big ass games which he has and that is a welcome you know trait for any team i love
swarbs man if the dh wasn't common i think he's guaranteed back on the red socks but
after lockout if they come back and he's definitely a guy that's waiting this out same with jock
probably like waiting out as soon as they announced dh in the nl then it's going to be much
bigger bidding season for these guys is he the best straight up hitter who's a free agent
i know freddie freeman and castiano so no all right next caller thanks next caller uh yeah
brewer's number one uh christmas wish this year's to actually give brandon woodruff some run
support when he's pitching.
I think a lot of people
Milwaukee would agree with you.
What's up with that?
Trev, did you ever have a guy
that your team just never scored on that
day and they wonder if it was because he worked
slow or just could happen?
It's usually your good pitchers,
honestly.
Because you know that you, you know, it's like
you know you don't
got to score a bunch, I guess. You can
breathe a little. I play with on a lot of
teams that didn't have great starting pitching.
So there was a lot of times we were behind and then there'd be a couple games.
We're like, okay, we're probably going to be in this one.
So it was almost a different feeling.
They have so many good pitchers.
I think it's kind of just a random thing.
But actually, no, it's not a random thing at all.
I'm sorry.
They need better offensive players on their team.
Can I tell you guys a story that Jack from Boston mom reminded me of that my mom is
going to be upset that I tell to you guys?
guys. When I was a freshman, my, my cousin lived with me and he was a sophomore in high school and
we were best friends and always like fucking with each other. And we shared a bathroom. And I put
saran wrap underneath the seat, you know, the old prank like invisible. Um, wondering if I could
get him. And my mom was going upstairs and had to pee so bad. And instead of going to the bathroom
in her room just went to the main hall bathroom and just flipped it up, sat down and started
peeing.
She said it just started splashing up right between her legs back up and her face.
And she had to like dig in there and rip the saran wrap it out.
She's so bad at me.
Oh, my God.
It's 10 times better than my cousin pissing standing up and peeing and he would have
saw it.
And it was like, you know, but yeah, if you're like a 14 year old boy,
has a good relationship with your mom, go saran wrap or toilet.
See, it's hilarious.
don't do that
I'm gonna be the other side
don't do that do it
Teddy to go do it
then you got to clean it up
who's who's
who's cleaning mom's pee up
I think she did
oh that's horrible
you gotta clean up your own pee
unless you're like a baby
yeah
god that's like double
you know first you get splashed
and you have to clean up
your own pee all over the place
that's that's pretty brutal James
I'm gonna say
oh well I wasn't meant
well I had
and out because I was like, why'd you use that toilet?
That's not your bathroom.
That's a bad out. That's a bad out. Oh, it is.
Bad out. That's a bad out. My mom would have taken her shoe off and, you know,
thrown it at me a few times. Maybe it's smack. Well, we were at like school, you know,
like I did it in the morning, so it would happen when we got back from school. So I wasn't
even home when it happened to her. So by the time I got home, like, you know, she was laughing about it.
Okay. Anyway, next call. You guys know who, you guys know who'd be a good fit for that Milwaukee
offense?
Chorber.
Schwarber.
Schwarber and story, yeah.
Story, dude.
Yeah, look, dude, I'm on their roster resource.
Like, their lineup isn't, you know, striking fear in anybody right now.
They're pitching does, and their defense can, but they need to add somebody.
And I assume they will.
They have the payroll flexibility to do that.
So we love the brewers.
Double.
What's up, boys?
My name is Vaughn.
I'm from beautiful Sussex County, New Jersey, but I'm a nationals fan.
For Christmas this year, I hope the National sign a bunch of veterans
and just a bunch of veterans to short-term deals that we can flip at the deadline
just for some prospects just to help the rebuild train to get out of the station.
Thank you guys. Merry Christmas.
I completely agree, Jake.
Hi, I'm a name's Sonola.
I'm an ass fan.
And as an ass fan, what I want for Christmas is for Mike Rizzo to please sign free agents
that aren't over the age of 35 because so far we've only signed two people and I'm going to be real.
I don't know their names, but I do know their ages and they're both over 35.
We need new young people because we're trying to rebuild our team.
That's the whole point of why we tanked at the trade deadline.
Mike Rizzo, I swear to God, please sign some young people.
I don't care if they're good or not.
You can make them good.
All right.
So I think they signed Luis Avalon and
and Caesar
Hernandez is that they signed him.
I think they brought back El Cedys Escobar too.
They did.
I kind of like the first caller's
understanding of it like, hey, if we're rebuilding
and goes like at the end,
at the end of a signing period
when spring training starts and you have that
veteran camp of like guys that still want to play
but haven't been given deals, just go give them some one year deals
and hope,
some of them play themselves into a trade and then then you've rebuilt that way they also have like
who do they have they have josh bell that he can get traded yep they have an interesting time up
there just it's won soto and the boys no offense to anybody up there i mean won soto's 23.2
years old when he's 28 is he going to be barry bonds like is this is that who we're
going to be comping him to?
Who else would you comp that guy to when he matures and is really strong and has been,
has seen a million pitches in the big leagues?
He already looks like he's seen that.
He's only going to get freaking better at the plate.
It's almost scary to think how good of a hitter he's going to become.
And he already is, obviously, but like there is, he's going to get better.
Baby Ruth.
He's going to get a lot of money.
Baby Ruth.
That division is gnarly.
National fans probably hate this, but the perfect time to rebuild.
Like Phillies in three years are going to stink.
Mets in three years are going to stink.
Braves will probably be good because they're a really well-run franchise.
Marlins will see what happens with their young guys.
They could be at their final good year or in a complete rebuild.
I know it sucks.
But yeah, go get some veterans.
If you start winning games, you're always going to point back to 2019.
Remember how old, Howie Kendrick was?
that'll be fun
and if you don't do that
I love Schwerver and story for them
by my calculations we have two voicemails left
let's get let's do the next one
so we have four left
there's doubles
14 was including the doubles
I didn't know about the doubles
yeah and here's another set of doubles
hey what's going on talking baseball
I'm a reping out here from San Diego
my name's Dakota
a big Padres fan and uh honestly after last year my my biggest christmas wish that i could ever
ask for is uh just something to go right something to go right you know i mean we got we got
we got everything in place it seems like we got a baller coaching staff we got bob melvin in there
hawked them right underneath the a's and uh you know it's all there for us man i mean we got
patees we got some of the best players in the game some of the best pitchers in the game and uh
seems like, you know, maybe with a couple more moves in the off season, we could be right there.
But it just takes a little luck and it's something that San Diego doesn't seem to have too much of.
But it's all there for us, man, so hopefully just something to everything to go right.
That's my biggest Christmas wish this year.
All right, take care you guys.
Later.
Oh, it's up, Tom.
Seth Trez.
Sorry, Jake.
I forgot about you.
I'm actually not sorry.
I really don't like you.
Bryant to the Padres.
Hot take, I know.
And they mean outfielder.
Right now, all they have is Trent Grishman, Roll Myers.
Who will play left field?
You know who will?
Chris Bryant.
He likes the fame.
Padres got the money.
Scott Boris.
I don't know.
Kind of annoying.
But Bryant to Padres.
See you later.
Love you, John.
love me ches i hate you jake i hope that kid's not a badass middle school baseball player
because you're getting beamed the challenge is on i want that kid baby d we got his number right
we got his number yep text him right now it'd be his mom's number i don't know if that kid's got
his own phone yet that's how old are you in the blitzball court yeah ask for a picture of him
and we'll figure it out from there send him a christmas gift and i should
just an invite to show you and him one ass kicking one coupon for one
the first caller not much to add something to go right sounds great second caller
Chris Bryant in the outfield do you like this Jake that you're your your enemy uh wishes
for man I guess when I think of Padres I don't jump to
Chris Brian is the missing piece in my head.
I mean, he's an awesome baseball player.
So, like, if they get Chris Bryant, that's huge.
And right now they kind of have an outfield spot open.
We know they want to use pro far in a util role,
especially if they add the DH.
So, yeah, they could use another stick.
If it's Chris Bryant, celebrate.
Any team that gets Chris Bryant celebrate.
Don't have to tell you about Schwartz and story.
I, Jim, something I fell into, uh, that I think, you know, something to put our sights on.
Talk about a team.
I think you said it for the Red Sox last year.
Their April is going to be huge.
Like they need to get the train out of the station.
Um, and then after that, right around the All Star break, like can't coast in, can't coast
out.
That team, that team's energy this year, they need positive Clevenger tweet vibes.
Hmm.
I was going to say that this is.
a sprinkle team.
Like sprinkle them for the division,
sprinkle them for the World Series.
But then I'm looking here at
Vegasinsider.com.
They are the
one, two, three, four, five, six,
seventh overall favorites to win the World Series.
Vegas is on them already.
I mean, they're ahead of the Brewers.
They're ahead of the Giants, the Blue Jays, the Red Sox,
the Mets, the Cardinals.
It's going to be a fun year if you're a Padres.
As bad as 2021 went for you,
I think 2022 is going to be a really good year for that.
When we start doing TPPs again,
I'm going to really have to figure out where I stand on the Padres.
Yeah.
They kind of like,
I don't know,
they were like,
mean to me personally.
Hmm.
Huh?
I don't know.
If you just go look at the roster and a vacuum,
forget about 2021.
It's a nice,
it's a nice looking roster.
I'd like to bite into that roster, if you know what I mean.
Jim, you just mentioned Cubbies and how, hey, they signed Strohman, so how else are you going to supplement, you know, payday in a little window?
I mean, like, the Padres are in the goddamn teeth of it, man.
Clevenger comes back, Snell.
Is he down to two years left, Darvish?
Like, Joe Musgrove, it's happening.
and the the Padres are going to be active when baseball kicks back in.
And I don't think we have talked about them enough.
So I like that little fucking dweeb that called in that's going to get a shit pushed in by me.
I, uh, I want the Cubs to sign Bryant, Rizzo and Schwerberer decided.
Oh, I like that.
Cubs West.
No, I want the Cubs to sign them.
Oh.
Just bring the boys back.
Bring him back.
And we got a bunch of.
prospects for him.
Yankees did that with
Chapman, right? Or who did that? Yeah, but this would be all three.
I keep thinking, like, if Cubs fans think they're going to go
sign Correa or story and, like, spend all this money.
What if they just brought back the gang?
They missed bias.
They're out on him.
Yeah.
All right.
Go Padres.
Hey, guys.
Long time listener.
I would say, as a royal fan,
probably our number one
item on the wish list is for Nikki Lopez
to turn on again for next season
it would be really cool if he could keep up the
All-Star pace that he had last season
anyways
thanks take sex
you do suck
Nikki Lopez
just stay good
it's not the big of an ass
Yeah, I mean, there was a big jump last year from the last two years.
So, I mean, he got, he played in 56 of the 60 games in 2020 and it was not kind to him.
So for him to bounce back is amazing.
I got a couple statements slash questions.
Our guy, Holly Jollive, Jack Olive, Jolly Olive did a video on Nikki Lopez.
Go check that out.
Statement.
Jim, you're kind of my go to on this and Trev.
I mean, you're,
you're on the pulse of everything.
Going by Nikki.
I don't know.
I don't know.
What do you want him to go by?
Nick?
His,
his nickname according to baseball reference is shorts.
Like that.
So, uh,
yeah,
Nikki is a tough one.
I have a cousin who still goes by Nikki,
but probably just with,
his family and friends, not with like the public. I would guess he gets called that everywhere.
But I go by Jimmy and it's a very similar situation. I was told my whole life that I'd have
to go by gym when I became an adult and it just never happened. So maybe Nikki was told his
whole life like, you're not going to stay Nikki. And it just never happened. Sometimes it doesn't
happen. Okay. I guess there's a big history of jimmies though. Yeah. Yeah, it's much more common
than adult. There's not a lot of adult Nicky's.
Yeah, I get what you're saying.
But look, 26 years old, the guy breaks out.
That makes sense.
Okay, 24, 25, you're finding yourself.
You're learning your body.
You're feeling new things.
You're touching new places.
Takes a little bit.
26, you figure it out.
Then you start, you know where the places are.
You go straight to them.
You work them.
27, things get better.
28.
Okay, okay.
Nikki Lopez.
Do you, dog.
And you got to say his whole name.
Someone in the chat said that makes a lot of sense.
You say, Nikki, no good.
Nicky Lopez.
I like that.
That's a baseball name.
Yeah, I guess the only part that's tough for me is I could see,
you know how they do it with Gordon Hayward.
They did it with something else.
Was, you know, they show the picture of them young,
and they meme it.
And it's the meme like, you know, Gordon Hayward went from,
I'll have your daughter home by mid.
night to now your daughter calls me daddy.
Like I could see three years from now.
We're talking about a Nick Lopez, all-star shortstop, who it's like, Nikki Lopez is now Nick Lopez.
Tom Ace in the chat said that someone called Nikki slash Nikki and I KKI is always hot.
And I knew a Nikki who was very attractive girl that I liked a lot.
So maybe Tom Ace is on something.
Nikki. I don't know if I knew any
Nickies.
N-I. Yeah, I knew
a new one. One of my
best friends
in the world.
Go on.
Name Nick Santoro,
just like the guy
Nikki Santoro in
casino.
One of my best friends
to this day. Just talked to him yesterday.
Pretty cool. That's awesome.
That's the end of the story.
Sue of the last voicemail.
Two more things.
Last set of doubles, though.
Yeah, Los Angeles Dodgers, number one Christmas wish is for Clayton Kershaw to return and retire a Dodger.
However, my personal Christmas wish for him personally is that he gets exactly what he wants,
whether that's retirement, signing a multi-deal with the Dodgers, or,
if he wants to continue playing close to home with the Rangers or whatever, it'd be that.
Main thing is, for me, is that he gets what he wants.
Hey, with the tagging baseball.
My name is Daniel, and I'm calling from Los Angeles, California.
And then I always want to wish you a happy holiday.
But anyways, my favorite team are the Los Angeles Dodgers.
And my biggest wish for them is that we need some starting pitching.
We're like, we're lacking there.
And then, like, next season, we're only guaranteed.
basically only guaranteed Walker, Bueller, and Julio Rivas.
We do also have David Price and Tony Gonselin,
but we don't know what we get from them.
So, like, yeah, it's probably what we need the most, starting pitching.
Like, that would be great, and probably two starters.
One would be good, too, maybe Clayton Kirschah, I don't know.
But thank you so much.
Keep on doing what you're doing.
You guys are great.
Thank you guys so much.
Thank you.
Bye.
Okay.
first caller a lot just wants
Kirchall to be happy,
which is
delightful. Also, like a lot of
Kershaw retirement talk, I
don't know, I don't know. I don't listen to
a lot of Kershaw like rumors or interviews.
I mean, the guy's 32 years old.
He's not retired.
I mean, I think he's probably looking for
five years, 100 mil contract,
like what Bumgarner got, but a little up.
I'm going to got five years 17.
You think he wants to pitch for that long?
He's 32.
I don't know if he wants to pitch.
for that long. At least he might
say, I want a pitch for that long,
but like that's, let's
break you down like a three and a two and
we'll go from there. Well, he's going to want
opt-outs for sure, but I mean, what did Madison,
what did Bum get? When Bum
was 29. It was like 580,
580?
580?
I mean, Kershaw's still
really, really good.
Yeah, yeah. I mean, look, it's just
whatever he wants. Just like
our caller said, whatever he wants. It's basically
what Kershaw is going to get. And what's crazy
he is. Okay, but if he wants five for
100, you think he can get that, right?
I don't know.
From who? Well, from who? From who? From who? That's the thing.
From one of the 30 teams. I mean,
don't make me. Yes, yes, yes, yes.
I think he can. I don't know if the Dodgers will go there. I don't know if they
will. I don't know what their plan is. And it's crazy to think about
all we ever talked about last year at the beginning of the year was, hey, the Dodgers
have like infinity starting pitchers above average.
and then now we're talking about,
hey, it's a little thin there.
Dustin May,
T.J.
Kershast still, you know, not signed.
Treb?
He's done.
He's out.
Trev had a coughing fit and now he's gone.
I think I inhaled like an actual dust something.
Anyways.
Crazy to think that we're talking about their pitching
after what we said about them.
earlier last year.
That first caller sounded like a
phenomenal lover.
He just cares much.
And then yeah, I mean, I think Clayton's going to get
kind of what he wants.
Like he's still a legend and he's not bad.
Like he got a little banged up.
There's a ton of mileage.
Wait, we're done again.
You got to judge someone like that differently.
No, I think they said RIP to you tribe
because you died.
Yeah, I think that.
Everyone was first.
frozen on my screen.
God, Trevor.
You guys aren't frozen.
You're not frozen for me.
Toggle your video.
You're a killer.
You're back now.
We're back. That's huge.
Clayton.
Dude, here's, maybe this is a hot take,
and I genuinely don't know if Dodgers fans will hate this or love this,
but doesn't it,
it kind of seems like a pretty clear move on point.
like again this is kershaw's decision if he wants to stay in l a it's fine but like you know they got
they got the ring in 2020 his the next part of his career isn't going to be the same
clayton kershaw like i think that's fair to say because he was one of the best pitchers ever
and he's getting older like doesn't this seem like if there's ever a time to shake hands and
keep it moving and go back home to dallas like yeah like this seems like a pretty clean break to do
it depends on what he wants
And I think you said the same thing about him like two years ago.
And then he's been really good since he, I mean, Scherzer and, and Wayno were,
we're, you know, big, big guys.
Like it's just got deals in 38 and 41.
Like he's 32 years old.
We're talking about someone.
I know he's, he's got a lot of miles on him.
But if you're just looking at age, like, I, if he says I want to pitch two more years and, and,
and be done, I did.
what I want to do and out, then I would say, just do with the Dodgers, then and be a Dodger for life.
I can, I can, I can see that happening.
If Kershaw says, no, I want to, I want to keep going.
I can see a world where we have a 39 year old Kershaw as a number two, three in a rotation being,
I'm not going to doubt his ability to be what Scherzer and Wainer are doing if he wants to do that.
He's got a curveball and a slider.
It's like a power pitcher.
So, um, that's where I, that's where I, I'm not going to.
say that he's going to be it's a new kershaw like i think he can still be one of the best pitchers
in baseball for the next five years he's got all the talent in the world so if he only wants to
play two more years i'd say stay with the dodgers because of one team career is awesome if he wants
to pitch for five then yeah it would be like a pivot point do the second half of your career somewhere
else what about the comp to mad bump wouldn't that be the counter to that well madmoe's a power
pitcher who was like getting worse and really losing his stuff
like a lot of the analytics were out on that.
Kershaw had a three, five ERA last year and a year before that, like two.
It's very good pitcher.
I have trade rumors free agent prediction sheet up.
They got him listed as the 33rd best overall free agent.
They haven't predicted for a one year 20.
That's right.
He's going to get what he wants.
I just don't know.
We just don't know what he wants.
I mean, I just don't think the five-year deals are there.
And I'm not really sure why.
I just maybe that's what people are here.
And I don't know because, yes, his numbers have been, his numbers have been fine.
And that four-year, you know, would still pay for the quality of starter that he is.
But why are, why are everyone, why is everyone saying one or two years?
Has he come out and said, hey, I got a couple years left than me?
Yeah, I know there's like injuries and stuff and the healthy and all that, but I don't know.
that's why that's what I don't know that either either I don't know if he's that kind of how I
open like I haven't tuned in it's it it's you know they didn't offer from the qualifying
qualifying offer which is that's interesting or telling isn't it I mean I think that means they
want they want the draft pick and they know he's going to get more than that you have to offer
the qualifying offer to the draft pick they did not offer him the qualifying oh they did not offer
Yeah. So that's what is it is that what's you know causing a pause like are they saying oh we hit they must know something about the arm? It's interesting. I have no idea. All I know is stats are still very, very good. Okay. Last one. Yes. Run it. Hey, what's up guys? BBD. Aeros fan here. My number one Christmas wish.
is that I can tell them I'm an Astros fan
and that people will still talk to me afterwards.
So thank you guys.
Have a good one.
Absolutely.
Why are people mad at Astros fans?
What do they do?
Well, some of them are mean to me.
Well, to you, yeah, I understand why you have a problem
because they've basically did voodoo dolls of you.
But like anybody else, why are you mad at the Astros fans?
They had nothing to do with this.
They, you should feel bad for Astros fans.
I mean, they got to experience some amazing things,
but then kind of the soul ripped out of it a little bit.
I mean,
maybe you're just indifferent because they did get to experience actually winning a world series.
You can never take that away from them.
But like I said, afterwards, I take a little bit of the soul out of it.
I don't know.
Always welcome here.
I ain't mad at him.
Yeah.
Unless you're mean.
Okay.
I mean, great job.
Thanks to everyone to calling in.
A little recap here.
angels.
We got Rodon and
Louise Castillo. I think Castillo should be on more people's
wishless. Cubs,
Correa, a 10-year deal or story.
St. Louis, Poole's reunion tour,
or story. Giants. Joey Bart
to be good. Pittsburgh,
to get a new team to keep Brian
Reynolds, O'Neill Cruz to get good.
New York, Olson,
Boston, Story,
Schwarber, Brewers,
run support for Woodruff,
Matt's, sign one-year guys
to trade him or sign young guys, Padres, something to go right, Chris Bryant and left.
Royals, Nikki Lopez to stay good. Dodgers, Kershaw return and just to get what he wants,
Houston to be liked as a, as a baseball thing.
A lot of good wishes.
What do you wish for, Jake?
For clean Kershaw to be happy, just like that other guy.
You too.
Yeah.
And a shortstop.
Mm.
Shortstop.
Yeah.
All right, cool.
Are we recording next week?
What's our plan?
We are doing one episode next week.
You tell me, boss.
We had mapped it out.
I don't know.
Do you remember BBD?
We'll figure it out.
I think it'll just be one.
I think it'll just be one episode next week.
Everyone enjoy your Christmas if you celebrate Christmas.
If not, enjoy whatever you do on these days.
happy
time
And then,
uh-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-o.
