Talkin' Baseball (MLB Podcast) - 444 | MLB Finally Makes an Offer

Episode Date: January 17, 2022

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Hello and welcome to talking baseball. We are a full-blown labor pod. Let's talk the law and stuff, not baseball at all. Hello, what's going on? It's talking baseball. My name is Jimmy. His name is Jake, Trevor, in the middle. Producer, B.B.D. in the corner.

Coming to live from the Draf King Studios here in the Bronx. and we're talking about labor, which is just so much fun. Actually, I am interested in this stuff, and we're going to break it down for everyone. Trev, how is your weekend, first and foremost? Wow, hey guys. Hello, everyone. I had a great weekend. I celebrated my nine-year wedding anniversary with my beautiful bride.

We had a great time, had some wine, some good food. But I'm back. We have a packed week this week. working this week. So I'm back on the grind, man. It was nice to get that little getaway, but here we go. Labor Pod. It's episode 4444.

You know who would like that? Keith McPherson. Fores. Fours on the board. Jacob? How are you? Trevor. James, BBD.

Everyone in the chat. Labor Pod is back. A Stanford man. to Central Connecticut State proud alumni King BPD or Sinus. I blanked on it for a second. Everyone tell us a college you visited once in the chat.

I'm doing well. Big NFL weekend. We just need to keep putting that in our rear view so baseball can jump to the forefront. And, I mean, I, you know, I don't know if we want to hit the passing button, but it was a little bit of breaking news on. I ask them.

Awaken Jake. But someone, someone DM me on Twitter and said, the lockout may be coming to an end in the near future. Oh, holy shit. I mean, it feels like we're almost home.

Why don't you share that? Right off the rip. I would have changed my whole intro. I shared it right off the rip. We could have made it the title of the episode. This is the rip. That was the rip. No,

I meant like before. we went live. We could have titled this show, Breaking News, lockout over. I thought, I thought that's what we were doing. What's his full name that told you that? Hey. Did you, did you ask him? Did you bet your friendship?

I responded and I said swear question mark. And I haven't, I haven't gotten a reply. That's kind of like your thing. You ask him to bet your friendship. That's, we haven't gotten to the full bet. yet. I'm going to need some information before that, but... Probably three messages away from...

It's a good start. From that being an option. It's a good start, so really excited for that. Is it somebody's niece? And you're hearing the same thing, Treve? I'm not exactly hearing the same thing. We had a little powwow about

what's going on pre-show. We'll share it with all the folks out there. It doesn't seem... Like your Twitter DM person is accurate, but hey. Oh. James has had the conspiracy this whole time that we be talking. Oh, so much talking.

I don't know. Are you coming off your talking theory? Ooh. Yeah. Wow. Which means. Oh, fuck. Which means like we're missing all of April.

If they truly. I'm glad. I'm glad you came around. I was just trying to be, I was trying to be optimistic. Because if this truly is the first time they passed along an offer, we're missing a full month of games. And it looks awful. And they're going to lose so many fans.

And no one's going to care at all about any of this. Die hard fans will stay. But they had so much momentum. So yeah, that's why I was trying to stay hopeful for as long as I can because if they're truly where they are, it's awful. And they're so dumb, both sides.

Don't you think they know that though? Like, that's, this is where I've been this entire time. Like, pre, even pre lockout, I was optimistic because the momentum that baseball is created.

And like, we're ready to take the next step. But then the game guy, taken away from us and you can't even search for players on the websites and stupid stuff like that i i don't they should know this like they should know they need baseball back on time but maybe uh maybe we're smarter than everyone which i kind of think maybe we just are i'm a stanford guy i can't remember a single baseball player they deleted them from the websites i've just been blanking i don't know what's some of the what's some of the disconnects

between the players and the MLB? Yeah. I mean, it's out there. Pass and wrote an article about it. Some of the points we're talking about, like this offer just didn't address kind of like the meat and potatoes, which, you know, if you're negotiating and trying to end

a lockout and come with up with a new agreement, like you kind of need to address the meat and potatoes. So that's, that is the disheartening thing about it. is you expect at this time that like we're we probably need to do negotiate on those points and we're not even there yet we're on the peripherals it's it's it's tough biggest thing being competitive balance tax being raised that wasn't addressed it was kept the same or not raised enough um the service time that's kind of like owners have balked that the entire time like granting free agency earlier.

They've balked that the entire time. That wasn't addressed either. So it's, we're just far apart. We're just far apart. They didn't like offer anything that is the things that are being talked about. That's, there's the disconnect.

And maybe, maybe we, maybe it's the plan to miss games. Why, what, I can't wrap my head around why they, they'd want to miss games. We knew why they wanted to miss games during the COVID talks. There wasn't going to many people in the stands. They thought they're going to lose money.

They wanted to miss games. Now, what's the point? Missing games to drive players to take a crappy deal. So it's a negotiating thing. That's the only positive I can see for them in missing games. It is nuts. Some of the information that is coming out about getting a draft pick of a top 100 prospects on your opening day roster. And it's like, well, all they did was try to get more stuff. That's fantastic. But we got some other stuff we got to do before we get there.

Here's what they don't, what they didn't do, the MLB. Oh, man, they basically said like MLB, this is, this was their stance. and they have to make the first pass at this, so whatever. But to break it down, instead of saying, hey, we know you're upset about these things and we have, you know, we're going to meet you in the middle or meet you 80, like 20%, you go 80, we go 20, like anything. What MLB did with this first proposal is they said,

here's some stuff we want. It's like, oh. Like, they want extra draft picks if one of their players wins rookie of the year, MVP or Cy Young in their first season, but they're not offering to give that player anything extra. It's like what? So yeah, we're like in a really bad spot because I don't believe in the PA's ability to counter appropriately and then MLB to counter again.

Like if you're the MLBPA, you don't respond to any of this stuff and you just say, no, this is what we want to talk about first because this is the game M&B is going to play. They didn't change like the luxury tax threshold. They didn't change the arbitration years. Those are the two main things the PA wants to talk about. So like they're bartering over, you know, appetizers and dessert. And then you're just like, well, I really just the main meals kind of what we need to talk about. So pretty frustrating.

And yes, all my delusion is wrong. We can discuss a little bit about, because one of the big things players are looking for is to get guys paid appropriately, you know, during their first couple years in the show. Right now we're making the league minimum. It's the lowest of any of the league minimums in like the major sports. But that's where typically most guys lie in the big. big leagues. There's more percentage of people making a league minimum than in any other sports as well. So MLB decided to address that by saying they're going to eliminate the Super 2 status, which is when you are in the top like 15 or 20 percent of guys with two plus year service, you get granted

an extra year of arbitration. So the cost controlled, but you know, you're making a bump instead of league minimum again. What they decided to do was use a, or they proposed, excuse me, was instead of, you know, Super 2 status, they would use a performance-based formula for players with that two to three-year service time. So they're addressing like this like short or like little amount of players. And they're saying, you know, instead of this cost-controlled arbitration, we'll just use a formula based on your performance. What does that do for anybody? Well, they want to use Fangraphs war so they can buy fan graphs and tinker with the war. I mean, they want to use Rawlings baseball so they can buy Rawlings tinker with the balls.

Haven't they already bought fan graphs? Did they already buy fan graphs? They proposed to use Fangraphs War, which I don't know if MLB owns or invested in. But like, you can't. Come on, guys. You can't pull the pillow over our head that much, whatever the hell the saying is, the sheet over sheep's head, pull over cover. Put the pillow on the sheep's in.

Blow over our eyes. Yes. Yes. Nice, BBD way to get that. I didn't know what you were talking about. Well, that's why he's our linguist. idioms. Cunningling list.

Yeah. Yeah, so that's what they want to do there. They proposed a bunch of stuff that, like, I don't know. It's just like, shrug? Let's table that. Talk about the stuff that matters. You've been bopping with any of the boys at all, Treve? I mean, I don't want to tease the talk of baseball people too much.

We might have some guests coming up in the future. But I know you've been talking to some little birdies out there. So I got like four I had like four responses to the proposal Three of them were non-starter Then you want to if you want to get a little optimistic One said I wouldn't say it was a non-starter

But and then went into why it was bad So you know So we've got a weak link Damn I thought the union was But look, you know, let's just hope we're staying on schedule here. We're going to get a counterproposal. And that maybe that moves the needle.

And we can get this thing hashed out because we got to get players to spring training in a month. They ain't going. Like a month from now is when pitchers and catchers typically report. Things happen in threes. And we have this, this, uh, three season stretch in MLB will just be remembered as the weird years. And it'll be 2020, 2020, 2021 and 2022, where you just had a shortened season, a COVID, two different types of balls. They change the rules on the pitcher halfway through season. And then whatever comes next where we're delayed games.

And then I don't know what rule changes are going to happen right away and what's going to be grandfathered in. And then probably by 2023, we start like the next stretch of baseball as we know it. come like 2040. It'll be like, well, yeah, back in 2023 when they really sorted it out. But we're in for another just dumb year. We're like, whatever happens this year we'll just be looked at as like, yeah, that was part of those

weird three years. I sure hope not, man. Hopefully this is like, we just get over this. It happens. You know, it's a little bit of abrasiveness to start the year and then we go smooth sailing. Because once we have labor piece, It's all about baseball, right?

So much. Well, forget about this news cycle. See you later. There's just so much stuff that they're wasting their time on. MLB's like, okay, you guys want a lottery. We'll do a lottery. The three worst teams. What does that do?

No, yeah. The three worst teams? I don't know if this is like a player-like thing, but I really enjoy thinking about teams that just missed the playoffs. having a lottery for the top pick. That was fun. That was a fun pre-lockout conversation.

Yeah, like that would be, that kind of solves a lot of issues, you know. What's fun? We talk about that and like the importance of these picks. Like the first overall pick is important, but then after that, like it's such a crapshoot. You know what, give me a lot. I'm in on the lottery.

Yeah, but it should be more than three teams. It should be every team. It should be every team. It doesn't make the playoffs. I think that is what the offer. It's a lottery for the top three picks. I think, assuming we're reading the same thing,

I think you might have. Lottery to determine the pick for the three worst records. So three teams enter the lottery. Yes. Which doesn't change. You know, it actually makes it incentivizes it more to be poor because then you're like,

hey, you know, we can just be bad. And even if we're the third worst team, Like we'll have a chance to the number one over? Well, yeah, that's what happens in the NBA. You start tanking just to be part of the lottery. So you have the fourth place team now tanking to try and get in that bottom three. That's why if you do a lottery, you have to do just like a lot of teams. So by the higher end of the lottery is a team that also would be trying to make the playoffs as a wild card.

Because then you wouldn't get like if it's less than that, you just have more teams tanking for the lottery. So it's like a huge miss there. They kind of just like just throwing crumbs their way. I think my guy God scam God in the chat. Shout out said they should be locked in instead of lock out. And that's definitely what Tony Clark opened the conversation with today. I don't know what I was thinking being optimistic about any of this. Wow.

We're so dark. I'm in a dark place I'm going back to all the meetings I've ever had okay it's the first one and it's been a lot

I don't even remember but every single meeting it was preparing us for like a war it's what it seemed like and like it's to me it was like

kind of silly I was like man that's like pretty like it's crazy but like this is what it's preparing us for right now And like I've talked about this before on the show.

The Jerry Reinsdorf quote, we should have we should have kept baseball away for two years. That's what he said. I'd hate that. Think about that. Dude, listen to this. To address service time manipulation, MLB proposed rewarding teams.

So, hey, we admit. We're manipulating the rules to fuck over the players, and we know you guys don't like it. So why don't you guys incentivize us to be good people? Maybe if we were a little more incentivized to not fuck over the players, we wouldn't do it. So they're saying, why don't you give us some extra draft picks if a guy is on the opening day roster and gets top five in rookie of the year,

MVP or Say Young. But only if that player was also a top 100 prospect determined by MLB's rankings. Yeah, what? What the fuck are you doing? Man, I don't think the MLBPA is incredibly smart, but they're not that dumb.

Like, that's honestly treating them and the players like they have no brain so we have to incentivize you to not fuck us but it's going to be determined by a list that you put together so you can in turn fuck us again

come on this is bad we talked about that one before the show and I said we don't have like all the details of that we just kind of have the bullet points of that proposal out there, but I don't know if there's any way that like the details would make a difference. Like it's pretty ridiculous.

I love how it says like the union has reservations about this idea. They're concerned over how the list of top prospects would be determined. It's like you should have reservations about that idea because they're asking you to give them something as extortion for not fucking you over anymore. Like that's not a meeting in the middle line. I'm sure there's other stuff that's. fine here. And I will say this. I'm sure when we see MLBPA's first offer, I'm going to be like, come on, guys, in the same exact fashion. Not me. Because both sides, both sides are crazy.

But yeah, this is bleak. And if it, this is how it works, it takes a week to get a response. So they did this, what, last Thursday? So we're looking at the MLBPA responding Wednesday or Thursday of this week and how many weeks are we to like spring training supposed to start like six weeks out and they're not they're not six revisions away they're not even talking about the main issues so yeah this is bleak this is bad it's stupid i can't believe that we're doing this i just had to bring up a video of ron gant hitting a home run just to stop being so bleak over here was he using a bat a baseball bat he was do you think that maybe after he took that bat is a walk off he hollowed out the bat and drank out of it as his celebration?

Like Ron Gann, I wouldn't rule it out. Because he could do that with a dugout mug. You can drink out of your mug. It could be your celebration. Guy in the big league should do that whenever baseball resumes. And they should go to dugout mugs.com and get 30% off sitewide using code John Boy. They got a bunch of mugs.

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man in his prime, Gant could really turn on a ball. And that's just, that is good fodder at the bagel shop in the morning. That's, boy, could Gantt turn on a ball. Trev could, too. How many people have said that about you? I think you're going to find out. Actually, no, Jake kind of shoots the middle. He doesn't really turn on the ball.

I'm not a turn on the ball guy. I could see you when you're younger having some pull pop, no? Nah, right back at the pit. Send it back where it's coming from. That's a lot of, I got a lot of that instruction. Yeah, a lot of that. Then it helped. Bend your knees back up the middle.

Line drives. Nobody wants home runs. Oh, man, that's one of the downfalls of the twins organization was ground balls to second base was like a thing that you wanted to do in batting practice. It's not what you want to do in batting practice. They'd have you hit ground balls or anything. That was like to get your swing right. Like boom, drive it that way. And it's like, dude, I don't know if that hitting that 40 mile an hour pitch to the second base.

what I want to do right now. Now look at you. Expanded playoffs are coming. Everyone thinks they know what's going on. Nobody knows shit. They're proposing expanded playoffs. We've told you guys that we know that they're looking at the 50% of teams to make the playoffs the same way NBA and NFL has. Because we saw how competitive the wildcard games were for the NFL, but probably brought in a ton of money. So they proposing 14 team expanded playoffs.

And, you know, that's probably the biggest chip the players have because the owners really want that. So I would expect this to happen. Because in the end, the players are going to want more chances to get into the playoffs and to win and have a bigger pool of teams that are able to win the World Series. So, I mean, we've been saying it for a year because we just have heard over and over that this is something they really want. So 14 team expanded playoffs and Universal DHS is.

something they want and I think both sides are going to like they both want that but they both are thinking it's leverage it's like you both want it well that's the thing about the expanded playoffs is I mean that is leverage and

that's not going to get done unless there's some movement on some other issues that you know MLB needs to address like that is the player's chip so they got to move they want that because I'm not I'm not

so sure it's great for baseball. It's going to be interesting because baseball is not like football and basketball in the fact that a team on the fringe can beat the best team in a given series. You know, like we've seen it time and time again. Wild cards win in the World Series. It's just about getting hot at the right time. So, you know, that's the chip. There's four.

Personally, I don't want 14 teams in the playoffs. No. There's formats that have been proposed that are, you know, the Costas one, or that's the Rhine store phone as well, that are fun. Like, I think I would get into it. Do I believe that that's what they're going to do? No. But, you know, there are ways. But, yeah, it's a lot of teams. Maybe if it helps tanking, then maybe, like, if it makes teams like the Royals go out and sign people the way they did last year, and it makes other teams, you know, go out and sign teams when you expect them to rebuild. And they're like, no, like the Rangers go. We'll go get people.

And maybe it is better for the overall, you know, competitiveness of the sport. It's just not going to be great for the competitiveness of the playoffs first round. So I think I can get over that. I think it might, though. You remember 2020 when, like, the Reds were in the playoffs and they just, we waited on the Reds all year. Don't put the Reds and, you know, paint the whole league on that example because my goodness, they've ruined our freaking 2020 predictions. Hey, they lost to, didn't they lose to the Braves?

Future World Series champion Braves. The next year. The next year. Yeah. The next year. Tough. Tough. I remember it was like an extra in a game, but it was just like a strikeout.

strike as like so like out baseball we only scored one run the entire we'll get uh we'll get used to the new playoffs i mean i i i feel like it's like a facebook update it's not a foregone conclusion you guys can't act like that like we got a you know trev like i said there's got to be some movement is leverage right for the players i'm just saying and the players want stuff stuff not a foregone conclusion if i'm hungry i got 10 bucks in my pocket There's a sandwich in front of me. It costs $10. Foregone conclusion, I'm going to spend that money on that sandwich.

Like, you can conclude that. I don't know if that, like, analogy works, but... Do another analogy really quickly. Yeah, and give me another one. Okay. I walk into a shoe store. I'm barefoot. Okay.

I got $10 in my pocket. They got all the shoes. They say you can have this pair for $10. You can conclude, I'm going to walk out of there. Ten bucks lighter, but shoes on my feet. What if the shoes don't fit, though? Oh, boy. That's how fucked of a position I'm in,

that I'm just going to take whatever they got. And there you have it. Flavor talk. Shoes and sandwiches with the boys. Boy, could Ron Gant turn on a bitch. Yeah, he could. And his prime. And his prime.

And it's prime. Yeah. I bet Ron Gant can still turn. I'm a bitch. So, Fayao in the chat. Thank you for the donation. I also shared a fact about Ron Gant's life.

So, huge. Huge day. I'll try to find out when an offer's coming back from the players. That'd be nice to know that. Hopefully it's sooner than later. Sooner than later. Can you break it, Trev?

I feel like you've been out of the breaking news game for a little too long. You need to get the... Just like... You need to get back. on the map a little with that. You kind of took that over. No, you're the guy now.

Yeah, the people's source. Yeah, Jake, you are the... I'm not a labor guy, though. I'm not a Stanford man. Fine, I'll break some stuff. No, Trev can't break it because too biased. Oh. Not like the public's view, Trev.

They'll be like, well, he's a player. Of course he's going to say that, you know? Jake's just like a middleman dummy. Yeah. Jake's actually on Twitter, Jake is super anti-player. That's his reputation. It's kind of my rep. I'm an owner's guy.

That's great. I love the owners, man. You and that guy, Bailey Freeman, love the owners. Don't love me with that. You know what? Sick of foolish baseball. No, I'm not. Oh, that's close.

Chance I'm going on a show. Whoa. Teaser. What are you going to wear? That's all I can disclose. Crack my jaw. Jeez. They want to change a Super 2.

I don't know how many of our audience even, like, know what Super 2 is because it's already the most confusing thing ever. And MLB is like, let's make it more confusing. We've actually redone the formula. I know. I'm just going through the notes. Yeah. Anything else? They want no international signing.

They want a draft for international players, which I don't even know how that would work, how people would enter the draft or not enter the draft. we just got our flurry of international signings. And right now it's if you care about it, you do it. If not, you don't. I think Seattle trades their international signing bonus money to the Yankees every year. It feels like every time it's like, oh, the Yankees traded Adam Warren to the Mariners. What do they get back? International signing bonus money.

Oh, okay. Oh, they traded blah to the. Padres. For how much you can trade and acquire and stuff. And then the Yankees always sign one of the top international sign. Like the Yankees don't care about the MLB draft that much. They care about the international signing. Some teams care about the draft and not the signing.

So it's like this weird formula that it just happened. How would they even do that? How would you? It's my thought on this is it's just a divisive thing. You know, because they did this when I, I was with the committee last CBA. They proposed an international draft and it was a little bit of a divisive thing. You know, the guys coming from the states say, we have a draft.

Like maybe they should have a draft. You know, like, but I don't think the current system is great, but in my opinion, and I think the players share this as well, you want as many guys on the free agent landscape as possible. It's essentially what, you know, international signing is. You can choose whoever you sign with. Now, like, they put a cap on what guys can spend, which, you know, that kind of cuts it down a little bit. But I think that's just like,

they just threw that in there just as a little divisiveness. Yankees just signed top international prospect Roderick Arias. And Rod A. I think he's the next cheater. Would you bet, would you bet on him hitting his first big league, home run before the age of 21. I would not take that bad. If you would, maybe you'd go to Draft Kings.

I need the new CBA because if they're going to get for top 100 prospects, you get another draft pick, might as well call kids up. He was 101. Ah. Yeah. Tough break. Tough bet. Yeah.

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Now, in the divisional round, who's... Oh, yeah, I got that right. Yes. Who's your team that you're saying in the divisional round? Just bet this team to get the $280 in free bets so you can have fun the rest of the playoffs. Who's your team? Man, I've been on, I think Treves Packers. Who do the Bengals play?

I think they're going to play the Niners. playing the Titans in Tennessee. So they could. I don't know. Titans are kind of good. And they had the bye week. Joe Burrow looked good, but the Raiders looked so bad that I was blown away.

It was a close game. Yeah. I was like, what? And then the Bengals had been in the Red Zone. So I think that's a bad sign of future Bengals games. Wow. Analysis. I was watching that game and I was like,

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By April 15th. Opening day, April 15th. I would say at this point, no. No, no games up. By April 15th. Jake? God. Jake, you're like an optimist.

April 15th of this year. I'm an onerge guy. Yeah? You see the good in people? Baseball games. MLB games. opening day. Dude,

do they not understand that when they miss games, Trev, then they have to fucking go back to negotiations about the new season and the games missed and how they're going to pay players for that and how they're going to do the schedule and when they're going to do the All-Star game and when they're going to do the playoffs and all that stuff. And they're going to do it. They're going to miss all of April. Maybe that's, maybe that's good news.

Maybe that's what's going to, well, speaking for the owners, if I may. Yeah, I mean, you're an owner's guy. Please. I could see that having an influence on our next offer. Because that takes a lot of effort. Reschedule everything? It's a nightmare. Oh.

Do you know what could have happened? What could have happened? We could have been sitting there on the eve of this lockout deadline. And we could have just said, hey, guys, the two sides, me and you, I'm representing the players, your representatives. Jake, you and I could have got together. Yeah. We could have said, you know what, let's not lock this out. That's dumb for our sport.

We can both agree on that. Yeah. You'd agree on that, right? Yes. We have an agreement. There is a way to just keep that agreement running until we sort this new agreement out. We can continue as things are as we're negotiating a new agreement. Should we do that just so baseball fans can see baseball, make sure of it?

Sounds like a good idea, right? No. Oh, okay. It didn't sound that great to you guys. No. So what'd you do? I locked your ass out. I'd do it again.

Do you see how stupid that is? It's a businessman. I do not. We will see how the PA research. When are they sending an offer over? Tomorrow? I don't have that information. I'm going to try to get it.

Wait for the Monday night game to happen. Then kick it over. Do you know like when Drake released? So on Friday, they said let's take the day. Everyone think on it. They met up Friday morning and they said, okay, let's divvy this into parts. You take page one, you take this, you take this. Today's MLK day, so they're off today.

Friday afternoon, they said, you know what, I actually think I'm on the wrong section. They regrouped who everyone does. Wait, you read that? Saturday, Sunday. That was my section. They took off. Monday, holiday.

Tomorrow, they will start to dig in. Wednesday, they'll double dig. Thursday, they'll internally revise the response they put together. Friday, they'll revise the revision. They'll send it over Friday at 3 in the afternoon. MLB says, let's just think on this comeback on Monday. Monday, they'll schedule the Zoom because now they've received. Yeah, you have to schedule.

You have to get 48 hours for everyone to get to the Zoom. I wish that the timeline I just laid out was a joke. Yeah. Well, you know, lawyers charged by the hour. So, like, do people want to know why things take? time? We've done this process with both parties. Time is money.

That's about how long it takes. I was going to say, Oh, I was going to say, do you remember when Drake dropped two disc tracks before Meek Mill could even throw one out there? Jim, you were just telling me about this. I was. I was just reminiscing

on this with Jake. Why doesn't the PA send over two offers? Just like, bam. Oh, I love it. Jake has three disc tracks. about you ready to go. I think they should send over... They should send over three offers.

Each bundled up under a baseball hat, and they play the hat game that they do at the stadium and you have to find the ball. One is a new CBA that's a huge win for the players. Like, it's everything they want. The other one, second offer. is a huge owner's one. It's actually a CBA from like 1990.

So players minimum salaries goes down to like 90K. Free agency. The other one's just a frog under the hat. And they play the hat game. Whoever gets it wins. Yeah. There's a fake ribbet device in the old. Didn't you miss?

Didn't you miss a hat game at the field? Yeah, he did. It's on Twitter. He actually did it. He did, he did, he missed it. He got it running. Started my relationship with Jerry Blubbins. Some of the stadiums, it's a...

I love Jerry. I love Jerry. Nice guy, Jerry Blitz. Skinny, tall. You ever miss being thick, Trev? Yeah, I was actually just talking about that yesterday. I'm so, like, skinny and weak right now, you know? I miss having big legs.

I don't have them anymore. Jake's looking trim. We talked to a baseball player recently. He was on the, well, I don't want to give it away. But he mentioned how thick you used to be. Hmm. Yeah. And you're just not that guy anymore.

Oh, I'm like a healthy, like, trim, svel. You were big. I miss it. Yeah. I didn't even know that guy. Some creatine. You guys want to see my glove I got going right now? Yes.

Yes. It would be a great way to end this episode. Jake, do you have any equipment? I can't. I can't see it. Try harder to see. What's it say? Party on.

It's awesome. It says fight on. Cardinal and gold, baby. Trojan is looking good. A lot of things going. The Trojans away right now. Do we follow Creeks? Lincoln Riley.

Who saw Ashland doing? some of that. Trebs a baseball snob. Yeah. Stop. Go dors. Miss you baseball.