Talkin' Baseball (MLB Podcast) - 450 | 2022 Cy Young Award Draft

Episode Date: February 9, 2022

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Starting point is 00:00:02 Hello and welcome to talking baseball the day before the day of days. Wow. Let's do it. Hello and welcome to talking baseball presented by Seat Geek. My name is Jimmy. Sit next to me is Jake. And in the middle of the screen is Trevor Plouffe behind the dish. We have producer BBD.
Starting point is 00:00:40 And it's a very big day. Trevor has exciting news. for everyone about what's to come tomorrow. I'm going to get ahead of this. Ooh. Oh, ooh. What happened? Everything's really quiet, by the way.
Starting point is 00:00:59 Very loud on my end now. Yeah, so I'm just going to, I mean, I don't know if we've, like, told this. We've told it on John Boyn-Jag Radio because that's where we're, like, very transparent about things. But talking baseball is our biggest show and we never done it. The people we hired to set up the tech in the new studio lied about their ability to set up tech in the new studio. So we're not working off of a, real system. We're working off of like, worse than we had in the Bronx a janky fit. We have a bunch of contractors and
Starting point is 00:01:29 companies coming in to make the studio work how it should and the mics and the sound be perfect. Hang with us in the next couple weeks. Don't have us at all, Trev? No, I got you. Okay. Hang with us because there's a lot of tech wrangling. So we know. we apologize. We'll fix it eventually. We have people that set up ESPN and all the big places coming to do it properly. Whoops.
Starting point is 00:02:01 Jimmy, did, did Jake tell you I actually figured it out, I think? What? There's like, I think there's a kink in the wire of the internet. That's usually, you just got to unkink it and we find. Oh, yeah, but that's just on your end. But the volume, I currently have an R&B station in my headphones that my headphones are picking up, a different channel. I'm the only one that has it.
Starting point is 00:02:21 Alicia Keys Fallen was playing in my ears. You probably thought you heard that at the beginning of the episode today. Well, that was Jake, but I do. I do. I feel like a great's person. I have a radio station coming through my headphones as we speak. Pretty jealous of that, to be completely honest. Very faint. He said it's some faint R&B.
Starting point is 00:02:41 That's kind of what it's always going through my head. So kind of welcome to a day in my shoes. Welcome. Trev, what's going on out left, big guy? It's a big day for me today. I got talking baseball here. We got some important things to discuss, plus a fun thing to discuss,
Starting point is 00:02:58 the Sy Young Award draft. I'm getting my blood drawn today. I'm going to Costco. A lot of things are happening, but the most important thing, besides picking my children up on time, is talking about baseball with you two fellas. And I love seeing your faces in the chat popped out
Starting point is 00:03:14 and BBD doing his thing. Happy Wednesday, everybody. James. What's up, bro? What up? I'm very happy I figured out that it was Alicia Keys falling. This next song, I don't know what it is. And that's kind of more torture some. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:30 I wish I knew like whatever. There's like R&B station. I wish I knew all those songs better. Switch seats? You won't be able to hear this. Exactly. Oh. Kind of making an argument for it.
Starting point is 00:03:40 What do we just switch headsets? Well, they reach. Headset swap. Goodness. Headset swap. It's happening. We're going through some things here on talking baseball. I can hear it right now.
Starting point is 00:03:52 The faint music in James' headphones is probably his biggest nightmare. I'm ready to rock, baby. Jake Sy Young, Manfred announced in the league's back. Baseball's back and it's better than ever. Baseball's back tomorrow. Can't believe it. So we're going to draft Cy Young of predictions. Trev, but first we got to let people know the exciting news.
Starting point is 00:04:20 Tomorrow, Manfred will announce that the league's on. No issues, no kinks. We're good. Oh, I finally got it. I have been so mad at you for keeping me out of the loop on your birdie, but now I know what the birdie brought. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:48 The goods. them good birdies But you know what you made me do Before we get to this Young draft Do we have to go see geek or anything like that We have a Roman We have a Roman out
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Starting point is 00:06:09 That's get-Roman.com slash talking. Trev's got his hand up and his wiener. Full disclosure here, we're on, it's a non-pod. I always say the first, the first day that I can't get a boner, I'm going to call Roman. I think I lied about that because the first day that I can't get a boner, I'm going to say, that's not real.
Starting point is 00:06:31 You're going to call porn hub up. I'm going to be like something's going on. Like, let's try again tomorrow. Yeah. And then probably after that day, that's when I would call Roman and just fix it right away. So I just want to be transparent with people, not the first day. You guys ever watch the show Kenny versus Spani? I say it's not true.
Starting point is 00:06:47 Remember the name of it, but no. Do you ever watch that show, Trev, Kenny versus Penny? Shakes his head, no. Never mind then. I'd have to really set the groundwork. Gone. Yeah. hilarious episode first to get a bone or loses.
Starting point is 00:07:03 Trev, what are your tidbits? And why did you get tidbits? Is it because I told you the news that I had? No, I mean, you said that. And I started thinking about, look, Bobby Manfred is getting in front of the mic tomorrow. Yes. Yes. We know that.
Starting point is 00:07:18 Okay. Always good. Check. One, two. seasons on. Bye. So one way he could get there, and I'm starting to think that this may be a plan. One way that the MLB could say, let me start this over.
Starting point is 00:07:36 Start it over. Rob Manfred's getting in front of a mic tomorrow. I'm afraid. And again, I have no one telling me this. This is all in my head. I want to make that very clear. I'm afraid he might go up to the podium and say, lockout is off let's continue to negotiate while we have the old CBA in place to start the season
Starting point is 00:07:57 people will start to cheer all this stuff but in reality that's not going to happen and players aren't going to let that happen okay that's I asked a couple guys because you know like the waynwright clip came out sort of out of context he said that you know if they could get the same deal they would do it I asked a few guys that last night I said if if Bobby Manfred gets on the podium and says lockout is lifted we can start if the players agree to this what would the answer be i got a resounding no and then earmuffs i got an f word no whoa and i said okay i think i understand why you would say that tell me why and essentially you can't just call off negotiations and not really negotiate all off season while you're locking the players out and then use this as a PR move to say look
Starting point is 00:08:48 the players don't want to play. We're trying to play a ball and they don't want to play. They've done this so many freaking times. I just want to get ahead of it. If that does happen, it's all bullshit and it'll be a PR move. I'm not saying it's going to happen. But if they do, the player's response is going to be no. Like we need to negotiate a new CBA. That's what this is all about. We should have been doing that for four months now. So again, if this happens, I'm going to be upset with Bobby. I might go to New York myself and stand outside outlawful the offices and tell them, I see your tricks
Starting point is 00:09:21 and I'm going to make everyone wise to them. Okay. And that's all I have to say. A couple stat corrections here. You remember the boys are in Orlando. So you're going to have to go to Orlando to pass that message at least tomorrow. I'll wait. Okay.
Starting point is 00:09:37 You're going to wait on the message. Smart. A, after my first point A, we were reminded that the players are in Arizona. When I had my Arizona cross-country mix-up, the players are in Arizona. Garrett Cole just tweeted out that the players are united.
Starting point is 00:09:56 Over 100 players in unison in Arizona. United hard. Treve, I guess the one thing I'd want to pop back at you. Kind of venue you think they're at 100 plus people. Nice spot. That's like a newsies rally. There's a lot of like... Scottsdale?
Starting point is 00:10:13 Yeah, I mean, there's a lot of good spots. They're probably the W or something like that. Treve, weren't you saying last episode, not to put you on Blizzy, but, oh, that's just a song playing in my head. What, wouldn't that give the players the chance to operate the season and then pull the plug on the playoffs,
Starting point is 00:10:31 like in 94? They don't want to do that. Right. But didn't you say that was powerful leverage? Sure, but I'm, this is what I'm saying. I think MLB. could say maybe we're going to call their bluff. But the problem with that is the players are going to say, no, we're not going to start a season without a new CBA.
Starting point is 00:10:56 We're supposed to be negotiating a new CBA. So yes, like in theory, if they agreed to play the season, that's what happened in 94. That's why I brought it up. You could strike during the middle of season, cancel some of the playoff revenue. But look, that's not what people want. That's not what players want. players do want to play under a fair CBA. They wanted to be negotiating for four months.
Starting point is 00:11:18 We talked about this ad nauseum. I'm just trying to get people ready that if Manfred does pull something like this, you're like, dude, Coach Trev told me this shit on talking baseball. I'm ready. And now I understand the tricks. And I appreciate your warning, but also would love to give mine that don't be surprised if Tony Clark and Manfred are wearing matching outfits, speaking into the same microphone, saying,
Starting point is 00:11:48 baseball's back, baby, and then walking off hand in hand. God, that would be, I would love that. Just exactly that way. Yes. I know how to do them. Yes. They're holding hands like this. They're holding hands and like throwing them like to like let everyone know.
Starting point is 00:12:09 We are holding hands. We are unified. I have them, but I like, I have them doing every other word, like an old whose line, is it anyway, skit? Baseballs. Back.
Starting point is 00:12:22 Baby. Are. Who would you have doing the bookends? It was baseball's back, baby. Who's got baseballs and baby and who's got? Oh, I have it being like an eight-minute, like Abraham Lincoln speech. Hmm.
Starting point is 00:12:36 Oh, wow. Tony Clark is tall like Abraham Lincoln. BPD. what are you giggling about over there? Tell the people what you're giggling about. I think Jimmy has an Adidas tweet up on this laptop. Latest the latest Adidas tweet, I believe. Sponsored.
Starting point is 00:12:54 Yeah. Add to dust. All day I dream about soccer. Support is everything. Yeah. I just want them to go like that. You might like it. Trev, I'm going to send you a tweet real quick.
Starting point is 00:13:04 Yes, the new Adidas tweet. Going viral on the internet right now. I think you will like it more than a lot of people. You're a high tea guy I think I had Adidas What is going on? Dude, what's going on is yesterday I was on the couch
Starting point is 00:13:23 Yeah editing Thinking about baseball While editing Put my son to sleep, Trev Mm-hmm Told Katie go to sleep early And I was just like,
Starting point is 00:13:39 I can't believe it They're doing The whole plan that I knew they were doing. Yeah. Super Bowl Sunday is coming up. Yeah. Thursday, tomorrow,
Starting point is 00:13:53 little announcement, things are moving in the right direction. We have an offer we're presenting to the players. Super Bowl Monday. Baseball's back and it's better than ever. Hey now, hey now. Baseball's back. Clark and Manfred.
Starting point is 00:14:15 We weren't fighting at all, you are. Idiots. We've been on the second and last floor of the biggest tower, Sharon Donuts. So I'm excited. Excited for spring training, opening day, all the good stuff. Should be on time. TPPs. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:33 I wish, I wish that they had the wherewithal to do something like that. I wish this was all a saga. And for real, they were like. Dude, let's create the drama. Let's wait for football to finish because football is ridiculous right now. It's a juggernaut. Let's wait for that to finish. And then boom, Monday, let's announce it and get the people fired up.
Starting point is 00:14:58 That would be great. You're getting it. Get ready, dude. But we've dealt with both sides. Listen, it's optimistic Wednesdays. Monday. All right, fine. Monday, Trev, I.
Starting point is 00:15:16 I don't deny. I could fully agree with you. That we may be back to the pits of the pits in Pittsville. But right now, I mean, things are good. Let's dream a little dream. I. Baseball's back.
Starting point is 00:15:34 Tomorrow, baseball's back. Let's fucking go. Do it, dude. Flip it. Put it on Twitter. Piss everyone off. Just joking.
Starting point is 00:15:41 Please don't do that. How about this? Ball is coming back. Ball's back. Let's go. Someone said that Garrett Cole tweet is optimistic. I know it's optimistic Wednesday, but that's not optimistic. That's Garrett Cole saying.
Starting point is 00:16:00 Do I have to follow Garrett Cole? I feel like there's no reason for me to follow Gary Cole. Garrett Cole's tweet is saying, dig in, because we're dug in. It's not optimistic tweet. He runs a good Twitter. I'm not saying that most of the players I talk to are not participating in optimistic Wednesday, but, most of the players I taught to are not participate.
Starting point is 00:16:20 Yeah. That's fair. Here I am trying to be as optimistic as possible. And I envy whoever in our chat just said that Garrett Cole's tweet is optimistic. It almost brought down my whole optimistic Wednesday. It's not an optimistic tree. It's good that the players are unified. Like that's a positive thing.
Starting point is 00:16:38 Good that they fit 100 plus people in the same building. I want to see the setup, the rows who sat where, what tables? You know, they sit by team, Treve? you think they sat by a region, like all the Miami boys together, all the Arizona guys together, LA together, that's what it is. Yeah, you sit with the homies.
Starting point is 00:16:56 Whether it's your teammates or not, you sit with your boys. You'll have the executive committee will be probably in front, and then you'll kind of just fill in behind it. Most guys just sit there and listen, but, you know, well, they wrap a little bit, go back and forth.
Starting point is 00:17:12 I'm not, after looking at Garrett Cole's Twitter, I'm not going to follow them. No offense. Damn. Dude. That's just tough. It's just a bunch of Yankees stuff. I already have you three bozos to give you my Yankees.
Starting point is 00:17:26 Oh, easy with the hard B, dude. That's a good word, huh? Anyways, I warn the people. That was my really only goal today on the show. Well, now we're going to draft Syong people, right? Yeah, I'm ready. I have a great strategy for this. Syong.
Starting point is 00:17:49 All right. Can you introduce the draft, Jake? We are doing a four or five round, BBD. And pitching staffs are traditionally a five-man rotation, so five in my head. We can do four. We're doing a four- or five-round draft. If you aren't familiar with our draft expertise,
Starting point is 00:18:11 you should go check out J.JR. We actually have a special J.JR coming up after this, if you're a draft fiend. We've done a bunch of things. We've done some on this. show, I think, but we are doing the Sayyung Award draft, which I believe we can track via Sy Young points at the end of the year? At the end of the year, there's a Syung vote. There are literal votes, so we can add up the points at the end of the year, and whoever gets the most
Starting point is 00:18:36 Syung points wins. So that blows your strategy, Trev. A little bit. I felt like if you just picked the winner, you win, I mean, you get a lot of points. You get a lot of points. I mean, I'm trying I'm not going for like bulk points. Like I'm not looking for guys that I know we're going to finish in third. You're looking for the winner. No, I mean, those, I would try to get the winner. That would be a really good strategy. That would be a real good strategy.
Starting point is 00:19:07 That'd be a real good strategy. I mean, the Cy Young doesn't even do it that way, man. Like the literal Cy Young. Like the dead guy? Verlander got the most first place votes and didn't win the Cy Young. Like even they have tricky systems. Tricky Ricky Winning in his tricky
Starting point is 00:19:25 Cy Young Well don't leave Ricky winning a Cy Young I have some things I'm probably gonna go outside the box Just because I feel like all these voters Are They've been getting tested lately by the public
Starting point is 00:19:39 And like I think something's weird Is gonna happen You have a weird year coming up For baseball Baseball Baseball's back Rolling along perfectly right Guys I have an idea
Starting point is 00:19:53 Okay. I think that all of us should have to draft a pitcher who's never gotten a Sigh-Young vote before. Sure. Easy. I got that. Okay. Tre's got that on lock. That's been his whole strategy.
Starting point is 00:20:05 There's more of this than you think. You just blew Treff's strategy. He's gotten a vote. That won't be very. And that probably not a great vote. Trevor was just saying, guys, he doesn't want. Listen, am I currently on the Google best pitcher in baseball right now? Yes.
Starting point is 00:20:21 Am I going to help? Like, I'm looking for. a BuzzFeed article and I'm going to I'm a fade you guys and just ride BuzzFeed. I'm a fade you guys. Leisure report. Okay. And during the 2020 season.
Starting point is 00:20:36 Are we doing random number? Yeah, you want to do a random number generator? Should we just go by height? BPD pick a number. No, no, no, no. You can't do that. Oh, he's in the draft too. That's stupid of me.
Starting point is 00:20:52 Oh, if he wasn't in the draft. that wouldn't have been stupid. Then it would have been a good, thank you. Then it would have been a good tactic. All right. I have a number, uh,
Starting point is 00:20:59 typed down. Oh, I have a number. What? I typed a number. That way, I need to give a number. That way,
Starting point is 00:21:08 you know, you asked, you asked me to prove it. I'll, I won't touch my keyboard. I'll prove it. Okay. All right.
Starting point is 00:21:14 I'm going to write one down. I was going to write one down. What's the, what's the one to 100 or something? One to 100. Yeah. Oh my gosh. You written down,
Starting point is 00:21:24 BPD written down. Jake written down. written down, Trevor it down. Number 73 for me. 26. 25. Oh, let's go. The random number is.
Starting point is 00:21:33 Trevor with 45. 71. Wow, dude. Nice number. Your first overall. No funny business. Jake approves. Ah, you still have the Adidas tweet up.
Starting point is 00:21:43 You didn't even do a random number. That's actually a new, a new, I'm trying to craft my own. You're trying to get your own Adidas street. Yeah, actually, it's procuring from my own collection. That's so creepy. What pick would you like? Um, bob, buddy doodle. three, four.
Starting point is 00:22:00 Four people in the draft. So it would be four or five. So are you going three? You're going four? Hmm. Uh-huh. If you had the first choice, what were you going to take?
Starting point is 00:22:11 No way, bro. Not getting me with that one again. I'll take the four or five. No, no, no. I'll take... I'm taking the three. I'm taking the third pick in the draft. Third pick in the draft.
Starting point is 00:22:24 Yeah. Trev? he's taken aback by that. I'm going one. Okay. BPD, I'm one ahead of you, correct? Should I try to pull up a dock before you, BPD? The number that came up was 71.
Starting point is 00:22:40 71. So, yes, you are closer. I will take the 4-5 wraparound. I'll take the number two pick in that case. That's good pick. Good choice, Bievers. So are we in agreement? We have to have someone with no Siyang boats.
Starting point is 00:22:57 That's never gotten a Siong boat. Mm-hmm. Sure. Fuck it. And I have a couple of those guys on here, but I have to go find which guys are that. Danny Graves. Does Draft Kings have like odds right now?
Starting point is 00:23:13 They have Winsleader odds, which at least gives you a group of names. So, okay, that guy finished seventh in the Sion last year. Okay. Just a tough one for right before. Oh my God. Get off of who,
Starting point is 00:23:29 this, that's one of my guys. That's, dude, that's one of his guys. I'd like to formally apologize. that's on me. Treve, you have the first pick. I don't. Well, take that guy now. Hey, if you don't take that guy now,
Starting point is 00:23:43 he's not coming back around. That's fine. I mean, look, with the first overall, are we starting? Kind of start. This is an easy first overall pick. It is? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:52 Don't say Scherzer. It's Jacob de Grom. Thank you very much. Oh, dude. Ropa doved us. He already said he's going to sit out next season. He's the best pitcher, like, maybe of all time.
Starting point is 00:24:05 I don't want to say that. get mad. That's hyperbole. But is that hyperbole? Anyways, Jacob deGron, first overall. There you go. 15 starts last year. A 108 for Jacob before he got hurt. Insane. Literally insane.
Starting point is 00:24:22 Insane in the membrane. Bad pick. BPD. I'm staying in town. I'm going to go with Garrett Cole. I think. It's been top three the last two years. There's less.
Starting point is 00:24:38 Ploof. The thing, well, I don't think there's, I think he is the betting favorite for the AL-Sai-Young, or at least he was in like a November article. I don't think you can currently bet on it because there's not currently a season ready to go. But I'm not sure there's anybody who's more of a lock to get like votes, period.
Starting point is 00:24:57 Whether it wins the award or period. Besides, Jake, Edgar, de Grom. Just DeGromam, you know? He's missed starts. Last year he got ninth place, even with only pitching 15 times. I think he gets a 20 starts. Dude, I hate this northeast bull crap. Yeah. Take them. You can take them now. Now that you're up, you can take them.
Starting point is 00:25:20 Who do you want me to take? You can take them now. Available for you. Available for you right now with this pick. You think so? One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine. I want to take someone, I want to take a guy. real bad for my this is my third overall my first round third overall
Starting point is 00:25:50 my second round six overall I have a guy for that it's just what are you going to do am I going to do yeah like you picking to pick third is a strange thing James just to let you know that
Starting point is 00:26:04 whatever I'm taking Otani he's award hunting rookie of the year got it MVP got it you're crazy He's never had a sye young vote. He's never at a Sye Young vote, so I think it's the best of that category. That's his non-Sai young guy.
Starting point is 00:26:19 He's going to give votes. He is a ward hunting. Okay. Rookie of the year. Don. Do you want me to do the list again? No. Do you want him to?
Starting point is 00:26:31 He said no. He passed. Great pick, Jim. Great pick, man. I've got back-to-back picks here. Yeah. A lot of people have muted the show. Okay.
Starting point is 00:26:46 So yeah, come back in a minute and a half or so. Three, two, one. My first pick, a guy from BPD's favorite team, had some of literally the worst defense ever behind him last year, and they're going to dress it with a platinum gold at shortstop, which will lead Zach Wheeler in the Phillies into the playoffs next year as they have a Cy Young winner and a platinum gold winner. So I'll take Zach Wheeler with my first pick.
Starting point is 00:27:15 And I do want to get my no-sai-young votes guy out of the way because I just can't have that holding me back. I'm going to take Logan Webb. Logan Webb with the Giants. Friend of the program. No-Sah-Young votes last year? No-Sai-Young votes last year. 11 and 3 with a 303-E-R-A and no-Sy-Young votes.
Starting point is 00:27:40 What are people fucking watching baseball? No. The answer to that is no. they watch us as we talk about baseball. So I got my West Coast guy, too. Unbelievable. So you went Wheeler and. Webb.
Starting point is 00:27:59 W is only for me. He follows me on Instagram. Webb? Yeah, no big deal. No, I think he follows all of us. Fathers us on Twitter. He's a friend. It's not always about you, Jimmy.
Starting point is 00:28:10 Okay. But you're up. You said you personally and I said all of us is how I'd counter that. You're up, bro. I am up. And what I've been trying to do, okay, is find free agents. Because you know that the award winner is going to come from a guy in a get paid year. Oh, a guy.
Starting point is 00:28:36 This is his contract. Yes. Upcoming free. Yes, yes. Smart. So I have a couple names I like that I'd never draft. this early. Sure.
Starting point is 00:28:48 So, I'm going Walker Bueller. He was going to be my next pick if you didn't take him, Jim. It's a great pick. The Moxie King. It's a great pick, Jim. Thanks, guys. He has too much Moxie to not
Starting point is 00:29:03 eventually win a Cy Young Award. There's just no way around it. The guy's going to get one. He's like a model now. I've been following on Instagram. I think he's got like a deal with a clothing company. He's a model? visiting his mom he's visiting vineyards drinking like beautiful you know reds in his nice clothes like he's up to his level a little bit i like that pick james thank you thank you thank you walker
Starting point is 00:29:27 bueller instagram follow bd oh he's modeling bdd then trev on the wrap around and picking between two guys here always uh max freed dominant down the stretch Last year. You son of a gun. So now we're just picking friends. Friends only. It's time for him. Time for him to go get one.
Starting point is 00:29:53 Had a top five finish two years ago. Finish the year, very strong postseason run. Friends coming off the board quick. And I'm worried about Trev because if he doesn't choose some friends here. No, I'm not going to choose any of my friends. Oh, my God. Then be sure to never have them and lose them forever when we get them. I'll be, you know, I think we'll be okay.
Starting point is 00:30:18 I'm coming for the jugular here. First pick of my wraparound here, Julio Ureas of the Dodgers, James. I like Walker, but I think I like Julio even a little bit more. I considered him. Seventh in the Syong voting last year. Seventh in the Saoyang voting last year,
Starting point is 00:30:36 looking at some of the numbers. He's been pretty consistent with his strikeouts per nine, but his walks per nine went down a lot last year, down to 1.8. So it helped everything out, obviously. He went 20 and 3. He's playing on a good team. He's turning 25.
Starting point is 00:30:52 I mean, I just feel like the guy's coming into his own. And he's another guy that I could just see getting a Cy Young at some point. So Julio is my first pick. Shout out, bro. The Dodgers. I got a West coaster.
Starting point is 00:31:07 And now my next pick, I have to get this guy because I know you guys are going to steal him for me. Another moxie god. Good hair. Throws a hell of a banger. He's in my book. Lance McCulloch, Jr. Oh, you're dude.
Starting point is 00:31:27 He might just throw 10,000 curb balls this year and win the Salyang. That's kind of what I'm expecting. Might. Houston Astro, Lance McCullors. I didn't know he got, so that was the, the Siong 7 that I was looking at. He got seventh in the Saw Young last year. Do you have a guy that hasn't gotten a vote before yet? Nope, but I already have the guy I'm picking.
Starting point is 00:31:54 No, I hope he doesn't get stoned from you. Maybe it gets snaked. Oh, no, no, no. Kiki, jakey, about to make a big mistakey. Who's up now? Did you try to make his second pick of the sequence? Yes, you're up. Who was it?
Starting point is 00:32:12 You're not allowed to know. I'd love to know. Thanks for paying attention. It was Urius and Lance McCullors, Jr. Gotcha. I heard you. I just kept hearing. you say hype it up. I think that I sure, this guy's going to throw a million curve balls.
Starting point is 00:32:26 Writing down, because I write down the boards. I have been written down. Everyone's writing it down. We got two writers. Everyone's written it down. Max Scherzer. Wow. A couple Maxes were the Max team.
Starting point is 00:32:41 Okay. I can buy into that. On my list, I am only writing down last name, so that actually doesn't exist over here. You just have a call-freeed Scherzer. I'm okay with that, too. You kind of got dubbed there. Yeah. Jim's...
Starting point is 00:32:56 I'm worried about Scherzer. Yeah? No. Okay. Nah. Cleared up. My only... My only concern,
Starting point is 00:33:04 baseball writers don't really do this as much, but like, what if Scherzer and de Grom? They both are just so good and they just cannibalize each other. Split. But they would both, like, get votes. Split vote.
Starting point is 00:33:12 It doesn't really happen. What if they hurt each other, they become catch partners. They hurt each other be having becoming catch. Worst case scenario. Like there's a sneeze, and it just hits,
Starting point is 00:33:21 uh, They hit each other in the face. Somebody sneezes, releases, pulls like a lat, hits the other guy in like the knee. Because he releases. Axis has been hit in the face before and pitched. Sneezes, releases. Sneeze releases. It's a rap song.
Starting point is 00:33:36 Yeah. Where are you heading, Tim? No idea. I was going to choose an astro, but I don't want. Verlander. You're just sitting right there. No, I don't want Verlander. I actually wanted a different astro, but I'm not going to do it because Treves kind of got the Astros.
Starting point is 00:33:51 So he got McCullors. And so I'm out on that. Way out, dude. And I am going to choose now, Aaron Nola. Wow. People talk a lot about Aaron Nola. I love Aaron Nola. Can I tell you something?
Starting point is 00:34:14 Yeah. Tell me. I think it's the Phillies year. People are talking. I would love that. Wheeler went in the sigh. Nola coming in like eighth Chris Bryant
Starting point is 00:34:29 coming over To the Phillies Nola made 32 starts last season The ERA's not great When he's on He's so fun to watch And so good Is Chris Bryant too pretty for Philly
Starting point is 00:34:42 No no no He'd just grow up beard And then you'd have like Too pretty bearded guys Get the beer See Roe was trying to tell me That exact same thing He said he's too docile
Starting point is 00:34:50 To play in Philadelphia Well Gabe was too pretty to manage that and we all know that. And we all agree. Everyone on the podcast agrees about that. Joe Girardi has done wonders there. My goodness.
Starting point is 00:35:06 Chris Bryant can play anywhere he F-wording wants. Farting. Got him. Bing bong. You know, I want to cuss, but some people say, you know, like I see comments everyone's small. I do you guys cuss too much?
Starting point is 00:35:22 I'm trying to keep this, you know. Hey, BPD hasn't taken his pick yet. Can I reverse? On my board, I didn't type it in. Is it locked? No. It's locked. It's locked and you took your pick.
Starting point is 00:35:35 I'm saying it's locked my pick? Yeah, because I'm going to go. I know I'm saying, but you haven't gone yet. I'm going to go. But I think until you go, I have reduced this. I'm not going to take anyone you want. No, but I don't want Nola. You already took them.
Starting point is 00:35:50 I forgot and you said it was the Phillies year. Yeah, yeah. It's over. I was lying through my teeth. Can you imagine. I forgot I was taking a friend. I am taking. I'll take five guys.
Starting point is 00:36:01 That's fine. I am taking. I think it's a five, we're doing five rounds. Last. We're doing five rounds. I have two picks here. Would have never take a lot of.
Starting point is 00:36:12 I'm going to take last years to Sight Young winners. Corbyn Burns is a dear friend. Spend a nice afternoon with him one afternoon before the sausage race incident. Nice guy, Cali guy, so you know I'm all about that. He'll probably just run it back because he throws an unhittable pitch. So, Corbyn Burns. And then how about Rob Ray?
Starting point is 00:36:40 Going to Seattle. Instead of pitching in, like, minor league parks, where the ball goes, Robbie Ray is going to be in Seattle. Only people that hit there are Mike Trout and Aaron Judge. Good. Bye. I will take both of them.
Starting point is 00:36:59 Treve, you have a question? So you took what, you? Bundy and Boyd? I took Bundy and Boyd. Treve, you had a question. Two friends. No, I was saying, like I also like to hit in Seattle. Burns and Ray. Burns and Ray.
Starting point is 00:37:10 And Trevor also likes to hit in Seattle if you could label that. Something about like Ray's Burn You and, uh, You know, a web kind of looks like a wheel. Circular. So you got a lot going on. I have a reason why I didn't draft Burns early. Like, are we all just having the same reason? Like, he won it last year, so he's not going to win it again.
Starting point is 00:37:36 It's tough to repeat. You just took the two So Young winners. That's what I said. That was a whole speech. So you think it's tough to repeat, but you're still taking them. Yeah. But they're going to get votes is what Jake is. He's going for the bulk.
Starting point is 00:37:49 Rob Ray, his career. is going north. Robbie. Rob Ray. Robbie. Rob Ray and Seattle. Pitchers Park, the whole thing I said. And Corbyn Bird's is a dear friend. So I believe in him. He is a dear friend. What a guy. All I heard was Boyd Bundy, Boyd Bundy. So I'm up. You're up. You get to take that. I'm retracting the Nola. First move. No. I give each you a dollar. Yeah. All right. Yeah? What? I'm taking, I'm taking Jack Flack.
Starting point is 00:38:23 Jack Flaredy. Yeah, his new nickname Jack Flack. So you're not picking Nola. You're the deciding vote. You're the deciding vote. You can be a dollar richer. You don't have to pick Nola. No.
Starting point is 00:38:40 I mean, it does feel a little bit like you did draft him. Oh, cool. Wow. Happy to get Flaherty in the third round. Okay. Flaredi moves up. And now with my fourth round pick, I will be taking
Starting point is 00:38:53 Nola. Aaron. I'll leave the fucking show right now. Aaron. I'll leave the fucking show right now. Okay. That's actually a big, because that keeps Jack off your back. Yeah. If you took Nola before him, Jack would be pissed. It's just the wrong order of things. Phil is here. How is Jack, Trev? He does not like when Trevor talks about him on the show to you. Trev, how's Jack?
Starting point is 00:39:25 I'm going to see him tomorrow night. No. Tell him I picked him third round. Okay. I will. I sure he'll be like super stoked about that. You didn't pick him at all. Who's up? BPD and Trevor. BPD.
Starting point is 00:39:39 He's taking Max. Two in the last round. I've taken a couple maxes in a row. No more Maxes on my board, if I'm being honest. Hmm. Flaherty was still here. He is who I would have gone with. So I have to pivot a little bit.
Starting point is 00:39:53 Pivot round. He did go a full round ago, so I should have really thought about it. I'll grab a A guy who has a Cy Young in the bag Shane Bieber Hmm Kind of forgot about him
Starting point is 00:40:10 I forgot about him a little bit too He's a guardian now It's a great pick He's gonna bounce back I like that He was good last year too He got a banged up Around the halfway point of fact
Starting point is 00:40:24 If memory serves I might get a little kooky with my fifth round pick Trev you have back to back picks including your final round pick. Yeah, so I'm going to do this. I'm going to appease my friends a little bit here. So I will take Lucas Gialito, who has had three top 11 Sai Young finishes in the last three years.
Starting point is 00:40:45 I'll take him in my fourth round. Dear friend of mine, we text quite frequently about things. And I appreciate being a peer of his. I was picking between him and Bieber with my, last pick. Yeah, he's going to get votes. Like that is what history has told us. So I will take him.
Starting point is 00:41:08 No hitter. He's a stud. And then for my last one, I have to pick someone with no Cy Young votes in their career. Right. And this, I think you guys completely missed right here. I, and I don't know how to say the name. So I'm going to look it up real quick. Wow.
Starting point is 00:41:25 Don't do it. Alcantara. Damn it, Trevor. All cont. Sandy, Alcantara, never a Saoyang Vogue hitter. There you go. He got a massive deal. He's feeling himself.
Starting point is 00:41:41 He is turning, or he's 26 right now? Like, he's in this prime. I just got a big wife of food. Six, five, just a beast. And that's my squad. Trev, that was going to be my last pick. I assumed he got Sy Young votes last year. but like you mentioned previously,
Starting point is 00:42:01 the riders don't watch baseball. They don't. There's vents. I know. It's so strong. Yeah. Someone got Chick-fil-A. It sounds like, yeah, chicken.
Starting point is 00:42:10 Someone got Chick-fil-A, confirmed. Well, it was a day in the office, so somebody got it. Yeah. There hasn't been one of those. Great pick, Trevor. That was going to be my final pick. You did a great job on this draft. He's one of the three names I was considering going into my last pick,
Starting point is 00:42:25 which has to be a no-votes guy. And the guy will. pick because now I'm down to two guys picking you broke out last year just do it again you'll get on the board Freddie Peralta Wow
Starting point is 00:42:40 crew up A lot of crew This is my crew Freddy Okay Jim Might take a reliever Thought about it
Starting point is 00:42:56 No I was gonna take the A's You're cool with that Is any A pitcher Are they gonna have any pitchers? I'd be I would be to veto that. One vote to veto. I'd veto that.
Starting point is 00:43:06 The thing is, the whole team. I'd definitely veto it. I'm not taking the position players. And I'm not taking them the bullpen. The A's starting pitchers. Yeah. Still a veto.
Starting point is 00:43:16 Other part of it is I think the guys that currently you would think would be part of the A's might not be there. That's what, that's the whole reason for it. That's the guy who finishes the year on the A's. I still veto it. Two vetoes.
Starting point is 00:43:29 We can split the vote here. If you're with me. I'll allow it. because it'll look good on the graphic. Okay, no majority. I'm taking the A's. But if Montas or Mania get traded, they're gone. Yeah, he has to be wearing an A's uniform in September.
Starting point is 00:43:45 Caprillion. People are liking him for the Sigh-Young. Full team. Okay. Not a full team. Can I talk to the chat real quick? Yeah, always. I said I liked hitting in Seattle.
Starting point is 00:43:57 I did like hitting Seattle. Doesn't mean my results were good as Chris Kramer put out in the freaking world 145 hitter in Seattle, apparently. Well, it was all doubles and homers, maybe. I still liked it. Two first names. Guys, you have killed the draft. That A's pick really changes my board.
Starting point is 00:44:20 I think where I'm going to go. Locked in. There's a lot of good names out there. People are going to be mad, big mad. You know what? I've been trying to be. trying to get these people off my back. They've been mad at me no reason. I think it's a Yankees thing.
Starting point is 00:44:38 Give me Kevin Gossman. Switches over to the AL. He's in Toronto. He got paid. He's getting laid. And I just want Blue Jay fans to get off my ass a little bit. If I'm being completely... Blue J's fans and Mets fans were not happy with us because we didn't put any free agent there. Yeah. And they like...
Starting point is 00:44:57 But it's like... They keep talking about us. You guys got a lot of people already. They keep seeing how rich their team is. and like, hey, I hope you guys make another bangor move. Jake, you're trying to get them off your ass. Don't insult them. Maybe I like it. Okay.
Starting point is 00:45:14 Great job, everybody. Great job. That's a draft. Who won? Depends how you're gauging it. My original strategy, I did not put into play. What was your original strategy? Be better?
Starting point is 00:45:28 All relievers. Oh. Yeah, that would have been bad. I think there's going to be a reliever that's close to Wayne this side. young this year. Something wonky is going to happen. If we don't get a full year of baseball, you know, we might get a reliever that gets used closer to like what a starter would be used. I mean, like 70 inning, something like that. Yes. I have a proposition for you. And you would have my vote, which means that you have, you know, half the room and there's not a majority against you.
Starting point is 00:45:56 I will let you sub out one of your starting pitchers for an entire league's bullpen. because I actually think it's like a very tricky decision because there's not always some relievers don't get votes like if an AL any AL any AL reliever gets a vote you get credit for that vote that's fine instead of one of the starters I have one stipulation one stipulation from Jake but
Starting point is 00:46:19 AL or NL that's the decision you have to make I think that's pretty easy that decision I think it's you'd pick NL you have Williams you have Hader you have Camilo Deval who I think is kind of like He's not going to get a ton of Scy Young votes Most likely, but Hader or Williams could
Starting point is 00:46:39 Okay So if an NL who are you taking out Oh, I don't know if I'm going to do that I'm looking at my squad right now I mean I'd have to Have to be insulted to someone Can't be sandy Not that it would be
Starting point is 00:46:52 I'm not going to do it I'm going to win this thing I like my draft too much I think maybe one of you guys should do it with your I mean I still have a stipulation If Colin McHugh gets a Sye young vote next year you get no points on your team all your points are no or i get all the points maybe no maybe hold on hear me out just completely hear me out maybe i get i win automatic that guy's a nice guy
Starting point is 00:47:18 he doesn't like say things about us no he doesn't ever love him maybe he said that none of this is allowed to affect the daisies yeah yeah gentlemen's rules that's too sacred during the season no funny business it's all jm team each month. Can I tell you guys something a little painful? Yeah. I didn't take Lynn. I thought you were going to.
Starting point is 00:47:49 That was like... He just doesn't pitch to the voters once. But he's going to be the best pitcher ever, obviously. Two, three or a last year? Yeah, I thought taking 20 guys might get ugly by the end. There's a lot of good pitchers in this sport. There's a lot of guys left on my board. No shit, dude.
Starting point is 00:48:10 Jose Betta Eos. And it's a crapshoot, dude. All of the Padres, Musgrove, Snell, Darvey. You know. If we didn't have to do the no votes ever before thing, I came into this with, oh, I want Snell in the fifth because he was dominant. His last 12 starts the year, then got hurt.
Starting point is 00:48:28 It's like, if he's their best pitcher, they make the playoffs again, he's got the narrative. He has one in the bags. Got one? So you want to trade someone for a reliever? No. All the relievers? I have to pee so bad.
Starting point is 00:48:39 go do it have to be so bad yeah go do it because we've got a fun guest coming up on JJR thanks for listening everybody
Starting point is 00:48:46 yeah Trev you're talking about like how good the pitching is like sorry Jake I'm going to hold you up here a little bit
Starting point is 00:48:53 you're good I don't have to pee a guy like Tony Gonson when I saw the ball coming out of his hand if you would have shown me that arm even 10 years ago
Starting point is 00:49:04 yeah I would be like that guy is on a completely different level than everybody. Or he's like at the top. He's going to be one of the guys in the league. Now I'm not saying Tony isn't one of the guys in the league. He very well could be.
Starting point is 00:49:18 Like maybe that is his potential. But around the league right now, the stuff is just ridiculous. By the way. I feel bad for hitters. I feel bad for hitters. I just don't know if it's a cat sport. We mess around with Gonson.
Starting point is 00:49:32 142 career major league innings. 285 ERA. Dude, he's a stunt. Tony Gonsland is like, really good. Trev. A lot of cat stuff. Did he reach out at all?
Starting point is 00:49:43 Like we like, I saw you tagged him on social. Yeah, he gave me a follow. Give me a follow. But, but did you guys ever talk to each other and say like, like did he follow you and be like,
Starting point is 00:49:54 oh dude, I didn't know that was you. I love you so much. I don't think he's, I don't think he's ingesting our content just yet. But now that I'm in and I'll start, you know, put my stories up.
Starting point is 00:50:04 He sees how electric our show is. Maybe we'll, will develop a relationship. Jake and I are pretty anti-cat. So the cat people are kind of like the Blue Jays people. Like just angry. Yeah, but if Jake was in the show and he got to wear whatever cleats he wanted,
Starting point is 00:50:19 he would do something silly like wear cat cleats. I wouldn't be liked. They wouldn't be cats. Cowboy boots with spikes would be sick. How come no one's done that? I wouldn't be liked. It's not me. You wouldn't like me. Okay, we got to do Johnmore and Jake Radio.
Starting point is 00:50:34 This was a fantastic episode. Everyone enjoyed it. And we did a really good job. Baseball's coming back tomorrow. We have, our votes are in. Tony and Manfred holding hands, screaming. You know, they might host a concert. Don't let them swindle you people.
Starting point is 00:50:56 Don't let them do it. I warn you guys. Treve has warned you.

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