Talkin' Baseball (MLB Podcast) - 452 | Making Lineups Out of AL Franchises

Episode Date: February 16, 2022

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Hello and welcome to talking baseball. We're doing a fun exercise today. We're all going to learn a lot, laugh a lot, and enjoy each other's company. Let's do it. Welcome to talking baseball brought to me by Thief Geek. My name is Jimmy. His name is Jake. Trevor in the middle and BPD producing in the corner of the screen behind the home plate dish.

That's where BBD is. Trevor, how are you? Nice to see you. much love. That was it? That's the intro. Oh, what's up, guys? I'm doing great.

We talked a little bit about my mental state before the show, so I just said I'm doing great, but I don't think I'm doing that great. Okay. But I think after the show,

because we're going to get a little silly today, yes, I'll feel a lot better. So Jake, how are you doing? Well, horny. I'm good. Trev, Jimmy,

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So thank you. But putting it back on. Jim, I don't know if you saw. I'm in full uni. I got the pants on. I got the shoes on. You didn't play with a turtleneck on, though. I did the second day.

You did? Yeah. So, okay. My quarterback, my teammate. You did? Yeah. I didn't listen to a thing you just said. Okay.

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Yeah, I'd be honest to you. No one's ready for this episode. We are, the four of us, but the audience is not ready. They are walking around limp and sad. Like Treve right now, if we're being honest, your mental state, a little limp and sad. You guys have never seen me like this, I don't think. I hate it.

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have made lineups out of the American League teams. You know, where they are in the batting order, what position they're playing. And you guys are going to enjoy this because it's important stuff, really. Yeah. Let's kick it off. You guys ready? I think I'm ready.

You know, some of our people that listen to a lot of our stuff, JJR, a lot of our day ones, you've seen us do a lot of drafts, lineups. This is similar to this. And we have a JJR coming up later today. This is the first time we're doing the song in baseball. So the crowd is probably like really not ready. Have we done a lineup ever on talking baseball? Is this our first?

Not a lineup. The first ever lineup. Wow. We do this. We've done drafts that like you make a full team. Right. No. Yeah, we do this like once a month on John Boy and Jake Radio.

We did, we put presidents into lineups. We put Tom Hanks characters. Tom Hanks characters do a batting order. We put fruits. We put planets. A bunch of stuff. What did we do recently? That was good.

Mythical creatures. Mm-hmm. All right, so let's just kick it up. Jake, around the horn. You go first. Tell us who you got where. Just go straight around the infield. No, no. No, the position that you start with that I can never remember that you like starting with. Okay.

I like to start with the catcher. Okay. Because I think that starts it off around the infield. So this was actually a late swap for me. I don't have a catcher. Fuck. Okay. So Jim is going to evaluate his catching spot while I go.

How do I not have a catcher? At catcher for the American League, I have the Chicago White Sox. I think they're kind of an all-time AL franchise end of the day. In recent years, I do think of the Yasman, Yes, Mani, underrated in baseball circles. I also think they just had a fun run with like A.J. Persinski. And, you know, I wanted kind of a traditional American League team to be my catcher. and I ended up with the Chicago White Sox back there. The White Sox made my team.

Yeah. They had to. And the White Sox made my team. And they're in a position that sometimes gets confused or not gets, sympathetico with catcher, but I don't have them as my catcher. My catcher is the Baltimore Orioles. Interesting. I just, they're there.

They've been there forever. They're kind of like a veteran of MLB. But also very much an afterthought at this point. and like not really performing anymore but like you're like but they're around they've been here forever and they're a little dirty so that's why they're my catcher I mean my catcher is kind of a good blend of both of what you guys said this is where I have the red socks oh historically gritty and a and a stable AL team I think uh I think uncle trev having a bad day have a bad day he doesn't care

he just tunked on you yeah sorry I was switching headphones I couldn't hear that you started talking and I did feel like I had a good no he hadn't started talking hadn't started talking it we're okay Treff I know I'm supposed to be this way today and it's for a reason

James I want to say this yeah I too have the Baltimore Orioles as my catcher it is not because they're just there and they've been around the league for a long time it's not because they're veteran they've had some really good catchers over the years who I've been really familiar with. Rick Dempsey being one,

went to my same high school. Then you had the Matt Wheaters era, which was my era. I got to see this guy do it. And now the future of the catching position is coming up in Adley Rushman. So the Orioles were a very easy choice for me. I'm glad that very much.

I'm glad we matched. Just going after the catching position. I've had, I mean, that's a pretty good run of catchers. Obviously, there's a lot of time between those guys. But Weiders to now Rushman, that's a nice little combo. Pedro Severino. Yeah,

I, uh, the Baltimore and, you know, I'm just going to lose Orioles fans by the droves. They, uh, they didn't make my team.

Uh, and I really wanted to because Camden's so good. That's bullshit. And they were really, they were really close to getting my third base spot. Like you sing the White Sox, you know, I said the White Sox,

you said you can't, like obviously, like the Orioles are obviously they're on the team. No, they've, uh, unfortunately, I think they've,

spit in the face of a proud franchise recently. You're like that mad at the block. Yeah. They've been so bad. I didn't really take. So clinically bad. Yeah. Yeah, they've kind of ruined who the Orioles were.

No. Yes. Jim, how do you think of the Orioles right now? Well, right now is obviously I didn't do right now. Right. But for the past five years, the Orioles have just been. Like you watch Ken Byrne. baseball doc, the Orioles are all over it.

For five years, if you've played the Orioles, if your team doesn't sweep, you're disappointed. And it's just depressing. I didn't do that line of thinking. That's all I'm saying. It's depressing. It's a long enough period that I'm cool with it being taken into account.

It's taken into account where I put the Orioles. It's depressing. Treve would have hit 200 ding-dongs there. Maybe should I try to put this on the screen? We can. TV's currently off, but we can. can try to do that. Red Sox similarly, I was thinking of, they have some famous catchers from the past

between Fisk, Veritech. And yeah, they just had that gritty identity, maybe not. I think they still latch on to that in recent years, but obviously they've done a lot of winning in the last 15 years. So it's a little bit loss on the people, but that was their identity for however long, 86 plus years. Jake, you want to keep it going? Hard work.

Let's move to first base. First base was kind of a tough one for me. I'll be completely honest with you guys. You know, I ended up here. I'm not proud of it. I do think they have some range through the years. I went with the Oakland Athletics. Oh, fuck.

I went, you know, just thinking about some of the guys, whether it's date my daughter, Matt Olson, or Jason Giambi, or Big Mac, Mark McGuire. Like, there's a legacy of first baseman there. The franchise as an organization feels like a first baseman. Like, you know, there's usually a lot going on with Oakland, but they're normally a little limited, kind of a first baseman in a way. A first baseman is usually a pretty talented ball player, but they're usually not super speedy

or maybe defense isn't their strength so they hide them over there. I put the Oakland Athletics as my first baseman. Trev. Did you ever think about what you just said, that sentence? The Oakland Athletics at first base. You were trying to say they're limited,

but this is a franchise that's called the athletics. I know. I think they've limited themselves. All right. I don't really like that one, but I'm going to give you mine here. And this one was also easy for me. I'm going to go with the Detroit Tigers at first base. A lot of history there. We have both the fielders, Cecil and Prince.

And then obviously we got my guy, Miggy, who I played a lot against, saw him win the Triple Crown, Hank Greenberg, guys like that. A lot of history there, long-storied franchise. They get my first base position. Now it's going to be interesting where they're hitting the lineup. But for now, they're getting my first base spot. Trev, they are my first baseman, too,

with the exact same reason. It's reasons, plural. Treve with a double match early. I got the white socks at first. Slugging, big, non-athletic, friendly enough. They were in discussion there. A lot of your catcher reasons

put the white socks at first. I don't think they like to get down and dirty. I think they're too big. They got to keep those uniforms white. Oh, it's a big catcher for me. Yeah? It's a big, it's Piersinski, essentially.

Yeah. Beauty, can you find Chris Rose rotation. I'm trying to glance around the room. Listed 6.3.250. AJP. Hmm. Gentle giant.

Well. That he needs to be. Okay. No. No. Okay. All right. Cool.

Jake my. I don't want to like spoil future picks, but I have things to say. We'll go to second base. I don't, I don't have. I don't like the second base. I'll tell you, the white socks I liked.

There's some of my picks I really liked. There's some that kind of just happened. For me, second base just happened. So I'll go first. My twins are at second base. I just think they're in the infield. And it's just like, whatever. Like it's like your full, that's your explanation.

It's like a scrappy. Who's the radio guy from the twins? that had the hustle double. Dan Gladden? Dan Gladden. He's the twins to me. Hazel? Yeah,

that's the whole representative of the twins. You didn't play second base, though. I know. I don't, that's not what we're talking about. You can say, hey, we got Nick Punto shredder out there. Maybe Alexei Cascia.

You could throw some of those guys, Chuck Knoblox. Yeah, Chuck Knoblox very similar to Dan Gladden, the way I have them in my brain, which is maybe make believe. But that's the vibe of the twins I have. Just a scrapper. I don't mind it.

Almost like they were dubbed in the 2000s in 2010s or 2000s. I'll go next. I'm going with, this is an interesting one for me because I think, you know, when you think of the angels, you probably think Mike Trout first and foremost, but I'm going to put them at second base

because they had some awesome players there. Bobby Gritch is probably their most famous one, but you have Howie Kendrick, and people forget about my guy, A.K. Adam Kennedy. He was kind of like a guy I looked at as I was coming up in the baseball world but kind of wanted to be gritty like him a little bit.

So I'm taking the Angels, I'm putting at second base for those reasons. And James, I think you and I are approaching this draft completely differently. I think you guys are in the same wavelength. I like my team right now, though. My squad is like fire flames. I've convinced myself that now I like my twins at second base pick.

He fucking loves his twins. I like the twins pick. Yeah. I went with a franchise that has two of their best players ever. I could argue they're two best players ever. I won't. Don't. Our second baseman.

This is a fan base that I am huge with because they're an angry little bunch. You want to be a, you know, a little second basement in the league. You kind of need a little of that fire. You kind of need that chip on your shoulder. You might be the smallest player on the field. I went to Houston Astros. Oh. Yeah.

I mean, I think Bizio and Altuvae are genuinely two of their top, maybe top three all time. And now that fan base, like they've got a little of the Storelli Napoleon syndrome. They're a little angry. So, yeah, they're. They're my pesky, pesky second baseman. Love H-town. Big in H-town.

I feel like your second baseman, they're not really that pesky. Those guys hit bombs in Houston. You wouldn't call Jose L2Ve Pesky? No, I call him a freaking stud. Pesky is more like... Mine, my team. David Eckstein.

I got the pesky second baseman with the twins. Yes. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. So, you have the twins at second base. You have the twins at second base.

twins at second base, Tref? If you want to join that and trade... You're putting the twins in second second. I have angels because I named some greedy players. You like you like the twins at second base so much. You can just move them over. Yeah. You can trade if you want, Trev, it's cool.

If you like the twins at second, just do it. Ozao Tube's not pesky. I'm not one of those people that only likes what I like. And if you'd say something different, I'm going to tell you're stupid. I can like what you like too. Yeah. That's huge. Exactly.

That's awesome. Take notes, people. I'm glad you like what I like then. No, no, he doesn't. He likes what I like. We also forgot to mention our good friend Brian Dozier, second baser. Yeah.

Hot. Yes. I mean, Treves in full of greens. I mean, 20 home runs a year type guy, twin second baseman. Jim has him hitting like second or third. No.

No, I don't know who's the second third. Yeah, because it's a good squad, bro. Brian Dozier. People. BBD,

who's your second baseman? I mean, I went back and forth on these a little bit, but for now there could be a late adjust, but for now I penciled the Orioles in here. Couldn't get Brian Roberts out of my head. And, you know, obviously, Cow Ripkin is a big figure there.

He's over at shortstop, but Billy Ripkin is it kind of goes along with them in my brain because brothers playing together. I think about that a lot, and he was at second base. So for now they're there, that my infield positions besides first base, I could see myself adjusting later. Okay.

open, curious, a young boy finding himself. I hate it. Oh. Gasly. I was between Orioles and twins at second, third base. Yeah, you messed up. Everyone kind of agrees twins at the second base. Everyone's on the twin.

Everyone's on the twins. I have a good one for the twins, too, James. I have a good one for the twins. I might agree with your twins, one. I have a good one for the twins. And if everyone's on it. Yankees at shortstop, do we just move on? Oh, I don't have the Yankees at Shorts.

No, I don't have the Yankees. I also do not have the Yankees. So we'll just move on a third. You have the, it sounds like Jake has the Yankees at short. I have the Mariners at Shortstop. They're fast, exciting uniforms.

The camera angles in Seattle are always crisp. And they're just like exciting times. Speed and defense. Mariners Shortstop. They slowly on. So if I'm going with like how you're approaching it, Mine does not work, but I'm going to list off some players who I love at the shortstop position and then kind of what they're doing now. I'm going with the Texas Rangers. We're talking about

Alex Rodriguez at shortstop to Elvis Andrews to Kiner Folefa who won the gold glove. And then that's disgusting. You don't sell tickets with the Rangers at short. I mean, you don't sell tickets and you know that. Yes, you do. No. Wait, you guys, we let me finish. Let Trevor finishes. These guys just spent half a billion dollars basically on two short stops in the free agent market. This is clearly a shortstop team. No, it's just not.

Mariners was the worst pick of the draft so far. No, your whole draft stinks and you're just upset about it. You're lashing out. Don't lash out because Trev liked twins at second. Trev's Rangers pick had some good evidence with it.

Trev, I like how you backed it up. Thank you. Thank you. Mariners, there was nothing there. You just said speed and defense. Yeah.

Everyone doesn't make any sense. I mean, because of Arod. I didn't take a single. I didn't take a single. I didn't take a single. I didn't take a single. I didn't.

I told you guys. I didn't take a single player into account. I literally looked at the the broadcast, the uniforms and the vibe of the team. I didn't, you guys keep mentioning players. I didn't even come into my brain. If Mariners are your shortstop,

you have an empty stadium. You're playing in the trial. What are you talking about? Do you know who J.P. Crawford is? Maybe the most exciting short stuff. There you go. So you have J.P. Crawford.

No, I have the Mariners. He doesn't have J.P. Crawford. No. I have like backwards hat, Griffey, like cool, fun,

Mariners as the lead-off Seattle Mariner's shortstop. Like that's the vibe that they're putting out. Longest, you playoff drought in sports. Mariners. No, young, fun, it's like a rookie sensation that you know is not going to last. Ooh, inhale, Baroa. That is, I don't know where this is coming from, but, you know, this graphic is going to get absolutely destroyed on the internet and, you know.

Slaughtered. Here we go. Short stops by far the position I struggled most on. I ended up with Astros here. A bit of a recency play because they've been such a premier team the last five, six years. This is where they end up for now. They have strong infield play all around recently

and historically Bigio Bagwell. They have a lot of infield history. Up the middle. They're the shortstop that I went with. But shorts up by far the position I struggled with the most. Which usually when we do these on J.J.R., shortstop comes to you pretty quick. Not today, though.

Yeah, it's usually one of the first ones you think of. Okay, third base. I have the Red Sox here. Similar what BVD was saying with Red Sox at Catcher. I think the uniform's always dirty. You know, this is like a kind of like a embrace the slob position. You can be kind of fat and play third base

and you can be kind of like slovenly and be like a stud at third. And Red Sox for me are like an embrace the slob franchise in a way, mostly because of the early 2000s when they were literally like, we're the idiots and they did that stuff. And that's the position that jives with, that's the vibe that jives with third base for me. So this came pretty quick to me when I thought Red Sox. I'm like, they're that kind of gross out of shape, but stud, third baseman. Wow. Jim, that's mildly offensive. Because, one of my best friends was a third baseman.

He was never slovenly. No, he wouldn't, no, he doesn't fit the vibe of the Red Sox third baseman at all. But when I think Minnesota Twins, all I can think of is third base with my lifelong friend, Trevor. And like you mentioned, the Twins as a franchise, they're kind of like the seven whole third baseman. Like, you know, you got your Cory Koskis, your Trevor Ploos, you've got guys that do it. it both ways, which you need at third base. You can't have a one-way third basement. Third base has to do a little of both.

You can't just be an Anduhar. You can't just hit and be a hole over there. And you can't really just play defense at third and not hit. You need a little of both. The Minnesota Twins as a franchise usually provide that. And it's embodied perfectly in my 6-2-2-2010-pound, nice facial hair friend, Trevor Plouffe. I also have the twins there same reasons

Pander picks you know how I know I hate myself today because I didn't even think about including myself in any of this and normally on a regular day you know I'd be talking about myself right now but I think I'm just so sick of myself that I didn't put that into the equation so this one's a reach for me

this was kind of like one of the last positions I got to fill out so the teams weren't all there. I went with the Mariners because Adrian Beltray stands out to me. I, like, I swear I learned third base by watching him play. Like a lot of the things he did I would try to do. Obviously, I was not as good as him and I couldn't do all the things that he could do, but I tried to. And you got him straight to our guy, recently retired Kyle Seeger, stalwart. That's what I think about the third base position. It's a stalwart. You need someone solid there that's going to show up for you every day. And That's Cal Seeger.

So Mariners. Congrats on your retirement, Kyle. Mariners. Congrats. All right. Before we go to the outfield, take a breather and, you know, get some more caffeine in us to give us the energy to move on. Because we got a new sponsor here. And they are.

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Full body, right? Full body roast. I actually like a nice blonde roast black coffee. Blonde. Well, blonde roast is better. More caffeine. Yeah.

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Okay. You don't have a preference? So I'm learning. It's good stuff. Yeah. I like diner coffee, basically, Like I just black.

I don't put anything in it. And I don't want it to be too like acidity or too. Yeah. I don't want to be too much of anything, really. Coffee. Yeah. Is this like, is this coffee we can like do like a pot of coffee with?

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I'll take, I'll go first. You want to do left field? Sometimes we do the corners as a combo or, now we'll just go left field first. This was the only pick that I like, like I really like. I stand by. If you had to give me one pick that I'll scratch and claw and fight for, this is it. Not that Twins pick?

No. Okay. No. I do love that because of how much everyone else loves it. Dialed in. Yeah. Everyone was in on that pick. Everyone liked that pick a lot.

But the Oakland Athletics are my zany freak, oddball, corner outfield, left fielder. And I stand by that forever. Like you just think of, I think of the Oakland athletics. I think like they're kind of odd, but awesome. and there my left field. Interesting. Yeah. Scratch and claw.

Treb, what do you got to? Like Oakland is like, it's just a lot of character with the Oakland athletics from their history. I don't mind, I don't mind the, you could have picked either corner

for the A's because you can do the crowd there. Yeah, I wrote corner outfield, but then it adjusted and they got left. But again, we are approaching this so differently. This was the last, position I filled out. So I only had three teams left. And I feel bad because I obviously really

like this team. I've picked them to go very far in previous seasons. This is going to be the Astros for me. And the only reason I chose it because those beautiful Crawford boxes just sitting there like a warm. I like that. Yeah, like a warm jacuzzi on a cold night. You just want to jump in those boxes, baby. And everything is, I might do that today. That might get me in a better mood. I think, I'm a jacuzzi it up today and think about the Crawford boxes. I'm jealous of that, man. That'd be good for you. I'm jealous of that.

That'd be really good for me. That's my pick. I'm in a similar boat. I mean, it's just the signature. It's arguably the biggest signature in baseball. You know, Crawford boxes top five. The Green Monster and the Boston Red Sox and Manny and a lot of history in that left field.

And I think it's a powerful left field. You know, they are the Boston Red Sox, and it's, it's one of their advantages as a franchise. It's why they could bring back Kyle Schwerber this offseason. Like, it's part of the reasons they can have a leg up on their team is they've got that big old green monster, and you can kind of throw anyone out there and fuck around. And if they can drive in 40 homers for you, go do it. So I put the Boston Red Sox out there. Hitting third for me, by the way.

Can you put Crawford box next to my Astros pick? Maybe CB? I don't know if I can. He looked like a no from what I saw, Trep. You did this last, it looked like all age pictures. It looked like a no. I think you need to do it.

Oh, man. It's pains me. Thank you. Shout out CB Buckner. Mm-hmm. I like CB. You guys ever have any good interactions, Trev? Of course.

was always nice. All these guys are nice. It doesn't mean they're good. They're nice. BPD, what you got, player? So my center field pick was the first one I thought of, but I think of the Angels as another team that could have played center field.

Picture gliding around out there. Of course, Mike Trout comes to mind. They have a lot of outfielers in their history. And I have them moving over to left field in deference to my center fielder who will get to an admit. In deference? Indifference? Yeah. What's that mean?

They defer to the guy that's in center field for me, which will get to soon. And Garrett Anderson and all that. Garrett Anderson. So yeah, Angels are my left fielder. You know they could play center for you in a pinch though. Maybe not him specifically. But Garrett Anderson.

How do you spell indifference? Killed the, yeah. Well, it's in a space deference. It's two words. Oh Indifference That's when you decide You don't want the kickoff

I get it now Indeference I defer I get it Yes Indeference I like learning new words I put it in my journal

Do we all want to hear Garrett Anderson splits Against the Yankees Is that what you guys just said No PBD Who'd you just Angels Angels

And I want to hear the splits Please Sounds like you've got the splits ready, Jake. Garrett Anderson, lifetime against the Yankees, 124 games, 319 hitter,

825 OPS, just a doubles machine. Looks like he killed... Looks like he killed Oakland, too. Good for him. In their faces. Good for him. Professional hitter,

Garrett Anderson. Were Garrett and Tim Salmon on the same squads? Yes. Okay. They didn't get along, though. Think about that. How strange?

is that Tim Salmon and Mike Trout like what are the freaking It is It is it does it doesn't get talked about Enough not nearly enough So strange Like every time there's the MLB drafted

There's a fish name Like it should be a meme But I don't think it is Marty Fish is a name He's a tennis player Did you see his Aren't you friends with him? I'm friends with Marty

What was his tweet? He followed me and tweeted at me Or something like that He had an awful tweet the other day Hey that's a guy That's our friend. That's my interest friend, Marty. He tweeted out this yesterday and it got...

Marty Fish tweeted out on Valentine's Day at 4 p.m. Valentine's Day. How am I just learning about the chain smokers? Damn, these dudes are good. You know what? That's going to be real tough to the friend, my new friend, Marty Fish. Fuck it.

out. No. Marty. Oh gosh. I gave it a like. I want to start with the center fielders. Oh, kick us off. Please. I've talked about this lineage before. Okay. I am going with my Minnesota twins. And we can talk about Kirby to Tory to Dernard, to Ben Revere,

to Aaron Hicks, to Byron, to Byron, Buxton and we can just keep on going. Nobody does it better. Minnesota Twins, your center fielder's on my team. Mickey Man. So Jake you said a Yankee's center field is mine. I like the pick for you, Trev. Like I feel like where the 10 twins are and your identity.

Keep naming people from the 40s, bro, or the 20s. You know, let's go, man. I met Bernie Williams last year. I went up to him very confidently. I didn't shudder. I wasn't nervous. I said, hi, Byrne. You said that.

No, I was, I was very scared. Joe's McFly had to grab him for me because I wasn't going to say hi. It was a nice moment. Hi, Byrne. I burn. Who do you got in center? Jammalo?

Oh, awesome pick by me here. Who do you have in center? Who do you have in center? center. The Royals. Really? Yeah. Wow.

Considered. They're just fast. They're just fast. Yeah, I just think of the Royals uniforms. I think the Royals uniforms, I just see speed. You could have said there's a massive crown in center field in their stadium, which I think is cool. I think it's the coolest Jumbotron in all the baseball is the Royals Jumbulls.

I did vibes. That's important. I didn't do stadiums. Both important. You're the vibe drafts. We need to put Jimmy's draft separate from everybody else's. It was a vibe draft. I just know Jimmy's a tickets guy.

Mm-hmm. And you're an up the middle guy. Mm-hmm. And right now, you'll sell tickets? Your oils, your Orioles, Twins, Mariners, Royals up the middle. I mean, you know that's not a ticket selling team. The twins are bringing it down a lot.

He's right here. You want to move the twins? Dude, the Mariners have the best center-field lineage. Mariners at shortstop is exciting. It lasts like two years and then it's done. Guy gets traded or falls off. No, the Royals is honestly because like in 2019, the Royals were fielding a track team that couldn't hit.

Right. And it's just stuck with me. Like the Royals had, I mean, they were giving at bats in the middle of the season to Gore. Yeah, Terence. played on that team. And then they had, who's the son? He doesn't really get a bet.

He did, though. For one season. This season, he did. And then who's the son? The fast, he's a junior. Mondesey? Mondesie. And then they had like, four other guys.

And I was like, this is just a speed team that can't hit it all. And then the Royals being fast is just stuck in my head. We didn't do the whole Yankee thing, but, you know, ploof you included Aaron Hicks and your twins lineage. in center field, Yankees. Don't use him as a Yankee center field. Well, just going backwards. I mean, if we're including him in twins.

Just, that's, he played like two years and got traded. Then, you know, Bernie, going back, Bobby Mercer, Ricky Henderson for a little bit. Even earlier than that. Of course, you have your mantles, your DiMaggio's. It's been going for, for near 100 years. Over 100 years. I just named all the guys that was back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back, back not like 30 years in between dudes I mean great granderson in the mix to bread godd

godin red godin in the mix Ellsbury for a couple years one good year the rest don't oh my god um i miss the black seats and yankee center field yes yeah those were cool true what do you miss about what i miss how i used to feel about myself oh okay because you what happened 12 hours ago. We know what happened. Jake, who's in Centerfield? Super Bowl hangover. It is not.

I want to repeat, it is not because of Mike Trout. I have the Angels in Centerfield strictly because they have the movie Angels in the outfield. That's fair. That's, that's, that's, am I going to act like that's not a reason?

That's the most sound reasoning we've had for Centerfield. Those guys cover ground. And take, you know, what, take your Mike Trouts, take your salmons, take your Mike Carps, take whatever fish you want. Give me Jim Edmonds in those Angels' ugly

jerseys, the cutoffs with the blue sleeves, tracking balls. Tracking balls. Are we talking reality TV star Jim Edmonds? We are. I love Jim Edmonds. What show is he on? You want it

for me right there? If you just said Mike Trout. And like, that's it. Angels my truck. I would have laughed you off the stage. You don't want them? But you brought it back to James Edmonds with the good jerseys and that A with the freaking Disney logo. Oh, yeah. And for what the silver brand, you got me hooked. I like it. I have the Yankees in Wrightfield. Short porch. Short porch. My favorite seats there. They've had a long history of really good fan favorite right fielders too. Actually, think if the Yankees have like a dud in right field. It's a worst experience for a lot of the fans there.

James. Yeah. You know what this means? Diving? Piggybacking, baby. I had the Yanks as well. And obviously the short porch, all that stuff. But it was just for Dan Rourke and his guy, his best friend, Aaron Judge.

It's nice. That's nice. Shout out. Well, now, Trev, you have three matches so far. Good job. Me and BPD have two. Thank you. Job, Trev.

I am putting the Texas Rangers in right field. I have that too, Jake. Oh, wow. Look at that. BPD now also three matches. Jake with two. Yeah, the Texas Rangers, I feel like the new stadium has changed their identity a little bit. But when I think Texas Rangers, I think of like the mashin Texas Rangers

from like the 90s through the 2000s a little bit. There's a lot of Juan Gonzalez in there. In recent years, Joey Gallo got there a little bit. Oh. Well, yeah, I like my Texas Rangers, beefy, power, driving in 140 runs. Well, that pivots right to DH where I have the Texas Rangers. Okay.

Birds of a feather. Yeah, I have the Rangers as my DH because you don't want to see them for like a full game. is hit home runs and leave. Okay. Wow. Yeah. I have the Js there for a similar. For having such great colors,

the Rangers whole like uniform and vibe stinks. Wow. Oh, they're bad. It's the only uniform I've ever looked bad in. It should be great. It's like good colors. You know, it's America, but like it's just like, ugh. Boring.

I mean, Texas is not known. for their style. I'm sorry people who live in Texas. I have a lot of family in Texas. I used to claim residency in Texas. I used to claim residency in Texas. Yeah, the style's not great. I don't care about the style and that's fine. It shows in the uniforms. I agree, James.

That's some of the worst the baby blues they brought out are fine every once every week. They like save a little bit. Once every week they're fine. But the rest of the thing is just They rebranded recently with the Nike uniforms, but they didn't do a good enough job. Trev, do you ever have, I was going to say aberrations, ambitions.

If the Texas, like if you got an email that was like, Hi, Trev Plouf. I'd Treve Bluff. It's the Rangers. The Texas Rangers, we're redesigning our uniforms, and we'd love to have you kind of lead that initiative. Would you be interested in that? Yeah, I'd dive into the whole Rangers.

aspect. Like what, they just have the little shield, that's it. Like, can we get some more freaking playing cowboy hats? Yeah, let's lean into Texas a little bit. Like, Texas people love that they're from Texas. But their team doesn't

represent like, this is Texas. Like, I know they have the flag. It's just not enough. You ever hear the start at the alma? What? Who do you have at DH? Boston Red Sox. David Ortiz, Hall of Famer. That was kind of an easy one for me.

I like it. I late swapped them to left field with the monster. But yeah, I mean, Poppy Ortiz, I did feel like the Red Sox Devert deserved to play both ways for me, just in my head. But again, playing left field at Fenway, are you really playing both sides? No. I have the Blue Jays at DH. Interesting. In recent years.

You know, even those Jose Batista teams, if you go back to Carlos Delgado, I just feel like the Blue Jays have hit for a while. Their weakness has been on the pitching end. They may be turning that around now. But when I think like 20, 25 years of Toronto Blue Jays, you know, I just, I kind of think of mallers. Like, Trev, you know, the Rogers Center, great place to hit. So I just have the Jays as hiters. designated. They can hit.

My DH for all the same reasons you have them at first base, Jimmy. It's where I have the White Sox. My Dale's carrying two first base DH types, but with the White Sox and Tigers for me. It's fair. Once a week, he'll have his first base day, maybe twice. But a couple Interleague series. Now, why do I like the White Sox uniform so much?

They're pretty plain, but I really like. They always are uniforms. Yeah. Yeah. Interesting. Yeah, I mean, black and white always plays. That brings us to pitchers, right? Yeah.

Take a scene. It brings us pictures. Yeah, your pitcher's going to sell tickets. Sure, I was going to do when we do the lineups, but sure. Seat geek. Seat for this. Jake and I went to the Rangers game, the New York Rangers, better uniforms. Maybe that's another thing.

If you're a double name, kind of got a, Oh. Yeah. Why are the New York Rangers called the New York Rangers? Interesting. Question. BPD will Google it and tell me, tell us after we do the seat geek read.

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record in 1926 and it's a play on tex's rangers oh wow yeah his name was tex record Text record. Record? Record? Text Ricard. And his nickname was probably Rangers. So he bought a team and they named him the Rangers. Texas Rangers. You're right. I do hate it. Yeah.

That is not. There was like a 5% you're going to, you might love that it's so stupid. If it wasn't New York, if it was like somewhere else in the south, that's weird. That'd be like a guy whose nickname was Yankee and then a southern team was like the Yankees

and it's like, well, but wait, let's just think about it real quick. Let's take a time out. It doesn't make sense. I wish you didn't tell me that fact. Yeah. Rangers game was fun last night, though. Yes.

Igor. Igor. Igor. My starting pitcher. Seek. Seek. Ckeek. Code. Talking.

My starting pitcher, Tigers. Wow. And they wear stirrups. And they have that line that goes from the pitchers mountain. to home plate. Really?

Yeah, on the field. Interesting. That dirt path. Interesting. And when I think of Detroit Tigers, I think of that pitching line and the pitching mound, and that's why they are my starting pitchers. And I picture them in stirrups.

And the pitcher always looks like he is a decade before the decade he's actually playing in. Okay. That's my. Matt Boyd. Tigers. Matt Boyd. Matt Boyd is your starting. I mean, Matt Boyd could be cast in the Jackie Robinson movie.

he could have been pat cast as a pitcher and he would be like so i need to go to makeup a wardrobe and they're like nope just wear exactly what you're wearing and you look like you're from the 1960s throw that change up kid yeah i i like to pick james when i think of the tigers i think of the tigers i think of dug fister throwing bowling balls at my thumbs when it's zero degrees out so i do associate them with pitching because they had some fire flames arms that's twice i've said that now on this show. I will be going with the Oakland Athletics because all they know how to do

is have young pitching and traded away. So they just can develop pitchers pretty much with anyone in a league. I have the A's there as well. Big foul territory so they get some free ads there too. A's. You know, what I said about them developing pitching, I think someone like proved me wrong at one point,

but that is like what people think about with the A's. It's a young, good pitching. But when you really break the numbers down, I don't think they're as good as the zeitgeist would have them. Ooh. Did I use that right? Yeah, you did. Fuck you.

Dropping the big Z on us, huh? Jay, who do you have on the mound? Did I miss it? James. I have a combination of the guardians and the Indians on the bump. specifically Charles Nagy. I'll move on from not calling them the Indians. Right.

But I just haven't accepted calling them the guardians yet. I think you technically haven't played as the guardians yet. I need to see a game, the uniform, the logo, so I'm putting Cleveland on the piece of paper. I wrote Cleveland down for the role I have them in. It's kind of from the 1998 Cleveland Indians, I have a combination of Charles Nagy, Dave Bourbon, and Jared Wright pitching.

Jared Wright. Yeah, nice one. I had a dream. I met him. I wasn't. He was, uh, did we meet Jared Wright?

Was this not a dream? No. We haven't met Jared right. I don't, I don't recall hearing about a Jared right. I'm just remembering that I had a vivid dream. That I met Jared right, like last week.

He had like, his, his hair was hanging on for dear life. Why do we? Did I meet Jared right? saving a corner of our brain for Jared Wright? Because I did the exact same thing. Why is he,

he's got some space up there. Jared Wright was a big deal because he threw cheddar. So people kind of thought he was next and he kind of wasn't. Dude, me and Jared Wright were talking about his time with the Yankees and holy smokes. I totally forgot I had dream about him until you just said his name. And then, yeah.

On Twitter? Look him up. The first year I like watched space. I'm worried that I really did talk to him somewhere or via someone, and I just am remembering it as a dream. But I have been doing those dummies that are half CBD and they fuck with my dreams. Bro.

2005, first year I, like, watched baseball. I was seven at the start of that season. Jared Wright was a big acquisition for the Yankees that offseason. So he kind of has a mainstay corner of my brain as well. Know what else it is? only Jarrett to ever play Major League Baseball. Really? Really?

J-A-R-E-T. Dude, he looks much better in real life right now than my dream version. My dream version was rude. Maybe you see him in like 20 years or something. James, this is 100% of simulation that we're living in. So there was a glitch. It's not a big deal. You'll see him in 20 years and you'll have a conversation.

Yeah. God, man. Wow. There's a lot of double R, double T, J.A, R-E-T. But he's the only one with that spelling, J-A-R-E-T. So J-Clyde, to everyone.

Well, he's the only one with that spelling. Yeah, but that's different, that's different than saying he's the only Jared. He's the only Jared. You just have to be short with the letters. You didn't even think about Jared or Hoff-paw. Don't. Talk about Jared Hoff-paw.

Not again. Off-power. Jared Rube. This was easy. For the relief pitchers, there's kind of only one way you could go with it. Let's all say it on three. One, two, three, raise. Tampa.

Yeah. I mean. That's easy. That was easy. Yeah, that was. Well, it was a frustratingly easy. Yeah. And I think about David Price.

Rookie year coming out. I love that. Yeah. Oh, yeah, Waka. I love that. Shane McClain. of hand way no so good job everyone i think bbd and trev tied for most matches oh i'm considering a second third base swap that have me in the same number of matches though okay i'm fine leaving

it as is you know like that twin second base thing but i think it's consensus best pick i don't think i'm going to make that switch yeah i think is consensus best pick which is cool i didn't i didn't realize it was going to do that going in. I get Trev on a normal day when he's loving himself and we've got the twins at third base, but it just wasn't in the cards today. It just was not in the cards today. What's up with me today, huh? A piece of shit.

Ask some random people on the street that question. What do you think's up with me? Chat, what do you think is up with me? I'm also really happy about my pitching staff, A's raise. Yeah. You and Trev. That was so easy for that. Yeah.

Rays on the back end really helped emphasize A's on the front end. You knew A's had to be involved. They're a premier franchise. Oh, I forgot to tell you guys. The Angels are on my team. I didn't like leave them off. That's fine. They're a star bench player.

Oh. Like a bench player that sells tickets, but huge applause. You're not mad if they're in the lineup that the day you're going. Oh, they're never in the lineup. But a huge applause if they pinch hit or defensive replace. And they, like, put their face on the, the marquee sometimes. And you're like, really? Like, but he's.

Well, he had time to do the interview. But, you know, oh, he does all the interviews. Yeah. Like, he's just, like, kind of around. Cleveland. I didn't want to, I didn't want Angels fan to feel neglected. They are on the squad. That's huge.

Yeah. Did any team get excluded from all four teams? No, right? No. No. Because I, I, I excluded the Guardians, the Astros, the Angels, or the, And the Guardians, Astros, and Blue Jays. Okay.

And you guys all had this. I didn't have the Blue Jays. I didn't have Blue Jays, but they were... Jake's the only person to use the Blue Jays? I covered the Jays, baby. Jake's Jays. No, they hate your guts, dude. They are kind of mad at me.

I was on Bluejays.com the other day, and it was just like, fuck, Jay. Couldn't see any of the pictures, right? Fuck those guy, Jake. Bluejays.com. Yeah. Do they hate me, too? S's the fan site.

Blue Jays. case. Yeah. No, they love you, Trev. Those are two travers. That's kind of what the whole vibe was. Is that an audio board? What do the voices sound like that? That's the website. Okay. It's just like kind of pop up voices when you're on it. It's for blind people. Trev, what do we learn today? Um, I like discussing baseball and this was fun. There was very little direction, but I think that we each had our own good reasons for why we made the picks that we made.

And I learned that I don't know what I learned today. I don't know if this was a learning. I think I have something to say at the end of the show. Oh, well, we've got to do our lineup first. Yeah. I'll wait until the end of the show to say what I want to say. How do you want to do it?

I think each person should just do it. I'm ready. I'm also ready. Do I go? Go. I can go. Yankees, A's, Red Sox, Twins, White Sox, J's, Rangers, Astros, Angels. I thought I was going to be able to, like, put them in order as you said it.

There's no way. No. Say it again? I couldn't even remember you said it so fast. I went fast. Yeah. Yankees. Leading off.

A's on base percentage. Tell me their position to. You want the position too? Yeah. I need to get the full concept of your team. So I have Yankees at short. Yeah, leading off. I have A's.

the first baseman on-base specialist. Oh. Moneyball. It's a little bit boring for the A's. Red Sox third. Go socks, baby. Tap-a-a-pott-a-Tee. Twins, aka thick boy Trev, cleaning up.

White Sox. They were our catcher, power-hitting catcher. Jay's, D-Hing, batting fifth. Rangers in right field. Astros at second base, Angels, and Center Field. That's my starting nine. I got Mariners leading office. off shortstop.

Speed D. Selling tickets. Mm-hmm. Yeah. I have the White Sox batting second. Yankees third, Red Sox four. My Rangers, D.H. Is the five-hole hitter.

Oakland left-fielder, batting six. Royals in center, seven. Orioles, eight. And then the twins are my nine-hole hitter. second lead off the Orioles catcher is too slow to even be considered the nine hole here okay I'll go quick twins I like the power speed combo at the top of the lineup so you got tory I put them at the top bucks and guys like that a hicks too can get on base

angels I'm an old school guy I want a guy in the two old that can move the runner and bunt I'm still a bunter all you people say never bunt are stupid wow shots fired at kent New York Yankees in the three-hole. Good. Small by the Astros and the Crawford boxes in the four-hole because you get cheap homers. Love that. Red Sox, my D-H. Then the Tigers, big first baseman.

That's kind of the middle of the order. And then we have, I put the Astros in twice. Never mind. It'd be the Mariners at third base. And then we put the catcher because I don't want to put a slow guy in the nine hole because I do like the second lead out of Peter James. So my Texas shortstop will be in the night home. Smart. A lot of smart thinking there.

I agree with the logic behind your decisions. Thank you. Angels and left field leading off for me. Yankees batting second playing center field. Tigers batting third playing first base. White Sox clean up DH. Red Sox catching batting fifth. The Sox brothers back to back.

Twins at third batting sixth. Rangers in right field batting seventh with a lot of thump. Astros at short, Orioles second lead-off guy at second. Like hearing you say thump. Do you? Yeah. It's a good word.

How come we haven't said thump a lot? I like it as a sound effect more than a word. Thump. You're pretty good at using that. You do use that sometimes. Yeah, I try to make a mortar noise whenever I can. Yes. Boom.

Yes, your mortar noise. Thump. Yeah. It's my favorite weapon to attack with. Um, good. Good. Yeah. This was all good.

Oh. You make me laugh, bro. Thank you for that. Funny guy, Jake. Friends. I need laughs today. Everyone compliment the person to your right. Jake?

Yeah, I don't know if you've got me or BBD. Well, BBD is dead center. He's in front of me. I was talking on the screen. Oh, it's kind of even. Yeah. Right now it's you, actually. get closer?

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You're a great pal. That's nice. It is nice. BPD, I think you have a sweetheart. What?

Who am I complimenting? BBD goes to Trev. Trev goes to Jim. Yeah. Oh. Trev, you always are dressed very well. Wow. Cool hat today.

Yeah. It's a cool hat. Thank you. Shout out Carl Lamar on Instagram. James, I appreciate our friendship. All right. And Treve, I think you said you had something to end the show with. Baseball's back?

I don't really want to do this, but I think I figured out why I'm all fucked up today. A lot of stuff with scags going on right now. There's trials going on. There's been a lot of shit out there on social media. And I try not to read it, but it's impossible. So I've been reading up on all this stuff. And, you know, there's a lot of things about him. I did not know.

I wish I did. And I would have really loved and able to, you know, intervene. So if you are recreationally doing opioids or if you're addicted, obviously get help. But if you're recreationally doing them with some friends, stop, tell people because you can be addicted or you can just take one fucking bad batch

and not wake up the next day. So it's been a little heavy on me, but I feel. feel like I wanted to say it because, you know, if one person listens, it's like, wow, that's true. That would be nice. I know it's a heavy subject and this is not a heavy show. So I'm sorry for bringing the mood down a little bit today.

But fuck, man, it's been, it's been tough. It's been tough reads. Yeah. Sorry, Treve. Yeah. All good. The, yeah. That news and then like all the Bob Sagget details.

You almost, there's a weird part of my brain. I mean, I don't know, Tyler. I mean, no disrespect to anyone, but there's a weird part of my brain where I'd rather it be self-harm than complete, utter like,

like you said, one wrong pill or like, hit your head. And then it's like, that scares me so much because it's like so fragile. Yeah. So it's awful.

And even if you think people are doing fucking great. I mean, you can just, I feel like people just need to ask more. Like, like really ask people how they're doing because,

shit man i knew tyler for a long time and we were we were best friends and i didn't know anything about that and it fucking kills me man it's tough well i appreciate you sharing though silly episode but i think it's important to say all that stuff and yeah i'm sorry i'm sorry man no you're good that's what we do here we got forum for a reason cover the spectrum pretty tough uh tough time so anyway thanks for tuning in if we if you guys like this we will do NL. BPD's got his NL lineup dialed. He said he loves it. He says it's the best. I actually do feel better about my NL than my IL, if I'm being honest. So hopefully baseball comes back and we start doing TPPs and talking about the 2020 season.

If not, we will find more nonsense to entertain ourselves as we go. Appreciate you tuning in. I'll be better for the NL. You're good. You were great. He's going to, no. He's going to be better for the NL. He tied DVD in matches. And he's going to be better for the end.

That's scary to me.