Talkin' Baseball (MLB Podcast) - 53 | Best Free Agent Fits, Giants Hire a GM, Lindor Trade Talk
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It is November 11th, and we're back with Talking Baseball.
There's been a lot of little moves made.
We got Free Agent Fitz and Twitter questions.
Let's do it.
All right, everybody.
Welcome back to Talking Baseball.
How's everyone doing?
Welcome back to the show.
It feels like it's been forever.
Feels like it's been forever since you've been gone.
That was a good song for about a minute.
Then it got played out, huh?
I take it back.
It was a good song.
My name's Jimmy.
I'm coming to you from New York City.
And I got my good friend Jake coming to you from Denver.
We're here to talk some baseball.
We got actually some good stuff to talk about, Jake.
We were texting yesterday and I said, hey, what are the topics?
We got awards coming up and we're going to cover those later in the week.
Then you said you want to do where free agents fit.
We took some Twitter questions.
And then I just went and did some groundskeeping.
Like, what's the news that's been happening?
there's some fun little things.
They don't mean a lot, but they open up to some good conversations.
But first and most importantly, hi, Jake.
How are you doing?
Hello, James.
Good morning.
I'm doing well.
Had a nice little weekend.
We had a nice little one of those Denver 70 degree days.
Went to the park.
Wow.
Just enjoyed it.
A little park day.
We have our first flurries coming.
I know you already got snow there.
Yeah, we got a couple.
flurries. We're getting a couple flurries now. These might be the flurries head in your way.
But yeah, man, I'm good. You know, it is, as a baseball fan, there's a little bit of a frustration that
it's not like free agent frenzy right now. Like, we're not on here yelling like, ah,
Moustakis just got signed. But baseball doesn't work like that right now.
We, you and I have had some fun conversations in the past with our friend Michael K.
and I think Jeff Passan
tented to it recently that
hopefully baseball is going to create
some sort of signing period at some point.
It was basically the original goal of winter meetings
and winter meetings have now become not that.
But I'm good, man, and yeah,
I think this, the player fit thing,
I'm pretty excited for it because it's,
I don't think some of them are necessarily hyper-realistic,
but it'd be like, yo, this would be so,
such a fun signing and realistic because X, Y, Z.
Yeah, I'm excited to hear what you got.
I was trying to think of some stuff,
and I felt like all of mine were pretty cookie cutter, pretty much like.
Oh, my God, why are you making cookies during the show again?
I hope I don't make cookies this year.
All year?
You start making cookies for Christmas, and you just fucking give up,
and you just, now you're eating cookies every day.
It feels like you guys are going to make one batch of cookies.
First Christmas around the city.
Yeah, we got to get into the spirit.
Get in the fucking spirit, man.
Hey.
How are you spiritually?
I'm good.
So I know that we usually have people watch this on YouTube.
We're recording via FaceTime and our mic.
So on YouTube, I probably made a video to open it up saying just audio.
Here's why.
So it's a little different.
My room is still echoy.
I took some couch cushions and threw them on the floor, hoping that would help a little bit.
So when I did the breakdowns, it was like every comment.
I was like echo.
There's an echo?
I was like, fuck.
Yeah, there's an echo.
But I don't have furniture for this room.
We won't have furniture for this room for another couple weeks because we're getting it from California.
Whatever.
I'm doing well.
It still feels like we're, Katie and I are tourists in New York City.
Like we don't live here yet.
We haven't even taken the subway anywhere.
We don't have like a commute yet.
You know, so there's some things like we went grocery shopping.
We've ordered a lot of food.
We need to stop that.
But I'm liking it.
Our apartment and where we're living is quiet.
It's like, way.
choir than I ever thought Manhattan can be.
Yeah, that's pretty cool, man.
As you know, I'm happy for you.
Yeah, and it's so funny how much, like, the comfort of internet.
It's like, there's probably books written about it because when you move in somewhere new
when there's that five days or a week when you don't have internet, you get that feeling
like if you go away to college and you come back to your parents' house for the first time,
and you're all excited and you're like, yes, I'm going to be home.
And then you sit on the couch for two minutes and you look around at your parents and you're like, okay, what do we do now?
This is different.
Yeah, it's like we may do.
I downloaded the full season one of Succession, the HBO show.
So I've been crushing through that.
But yeah, like when we didn't have a couch, that was shitty because we didn't have a place to like hang out the two of us.
It was like sit on the bed and then we're going to go to sleep.
We're both big nappers or sit at the kitchen table and just look at you.
each other without internet we didn't have any board games or anything but we kept busy jake you said
there wasn't any big news which i think is pretty fucking rude to chad spanberger oh i i was gonna i had
i had a segue of the year lined up i was going to say speaking of succession scott harris scott harris
the gms the giants hired scott harris as his gm i currently don't have internet as we
record this. So if we have, I did, I try to do a lot of my research before the show.
Scott Harris was part of the Cubs World Series run and he's been working under Theo Epstein for a while.
So pretty good track record there. Um, I mean, I don't know anything about Scott Harris.
Sounds like a, I'm going to say boring name. Oh, yeah, a little bit. Um, 32 years old.
Whoa. Kind of, yeah, part of, part of this wonderkin. What the fuck.
Theo passing the torch a little bit.
So yeah, I've got two years for that.
He's been the director of baseball operations for the Cubs for five years.
And then he was the assistant GM last year.
And I guess from everything we've heard and all the actual insiders,
Pisan and guys like that, they said like this guy is one of the guys known around the league.
Like he was going to get his opportunity.
It was just when.
but yeah UCLA NBA at Northwestern
Can you tell me what he looks like?
He's so young I need to know what he looks like
Ooh I haven't seen him what do we think do we think glasses
I think everyone every 30 year old in baseball looks the same
They wear the same clothes
He's probably got like slight stubble beard kind of like what I have
But more in shape and like a wafety
A wafed clean shaved
A wafed hair
Okay so that yeah the two
So he's got the wafty poof hair.
He, yeah, clean face.
And, I mean, the one picture I'm seeing, he's wearing,
he has that checkered, collared shirt that every generic white guy has.
Every, yeah, every 22 to 30 year old has, yep.
Yeah, he's wearing a pull.
He's got like a pull over over it.
Yeah, that's the fucking I'm young and I work in baseball look.
Yes, yes.
So yeah, that's Scott Harris.
If his wife, mother had to brag about one feature, like he's got those nice eyes, he's got such a nice mouth.
What would it be?
Good eyebrows?
His mother would say, like, I love his smile.
But it's not like a great smile, but it's a smile of mom likes.
Okay, okay.
Yeah.
Does he have any noticeably bad features?
No, no.
you're right i mean he does look like he's cut from the young in baseball cloth yeah yeah instead of the
the what was what was what was what program was i in a manager's training program he was on the he was on the
fast track to become a gm program which i didn't get an application for yeah no no no they avoided you
which is stuff so the giants hire him yeah what were you going to say i was going to say the giants um i
I just, I dip my toe in the water a little bit because I, I read one article and it was talking
about like, yeah, they've got money coming off the books, blah, blah, blah.
Yeah, I think it's really interesting.
I feel like this next year is going to be very much kind of a throw some stuff out there and
see what sticks.
Like, it's going to be one full serious rebuilding year.
Like I was looking at their multi-year contracts.
I think they only have like three relievers on the books for next year.
they've already claimed a couple guys off waivers.
But they've got their big money coming off in two years.
I think they've got Quato, Posey, Brandon Belt, a couple guys.
So they're like next year's the test year.
See who's going to stick.
Then they're going to sign a couple guys.
And then the year after that, I think like Longoria, a couple other guys come off.
So they're on like a two-year rebuild plan.
Yeah, to me it seems like they've,
very much don't want to compete next year.
And they might be anyone they have on the books might be up for grabs.
Yeah, I think if they can get off of them for the right price.
But I think they're even willing to wait it out a little bit.
Just bring up some dudes, let those contracts kind of run out their course,
maybe move them in their contract year.
But yeah, and it's kind of the money, baseball can be tough, man.
and like I was looking at some of the contracts.
It's like Johnny Quato, 22 Mill.
We'll see what he's got after being out of year.
Brandon Belt's getting 17.
I don't think he's necessarily living up to that.
Brandon Crawford gets paid.
So they, it's definitely literally and figuratively the end of an era in San Francisco.
But yeah, I'd say two, three years they're going to be able to sign impact-free agents
and probably have a couple new young bodies from the rebuild.
Yeah. They're still searching for a manager right now.
And they, as far as we know, the Giants, the San Francisco baseball giants have narrowed it down to three candidates.
So they got Astros bench coach Joe Espada, Ray's bench coach Matt Catraro.
No way. I apologize. Quotraro.
And former Phillies manager Gabe Kapler.
Now, if they don't care about the next two seasons, go with Gabe Kapler. Fuck it.
Yeah.
Like if you're just rebuilding.
I mean, if you're trying to win in the next two years or build a culture,
a competent culture, don't go with Gabe Kapler.
I don't think he showed anyone anything.
I don't understand why he's up for a manager's job.
Joe Espada is very interesting.
Spent time with the Astros and the Yankees in the last four years
and kind of knows the inner workings of both clubs.
And like you've been saying, Jake, both clubs are pretty much been doing it right.
Not that they're the only two, of course, but they are two.
of the seven that I've been doing it right for the last like five years.
So I like Joe Espada, give him a chance.
I actually give Joe Espada a chance because if he doesn't work out,
you're rebuilding for two years.
And if he does, then that means he's taken some of the Astros magic
and the Yankees magic and sprinkling it on.
So I like Joe Spada there.
But again, like not in the interview room.
So Joe Spada could have something terrible about him, I don't know about.
Whoa, skeletons.
Yeah, I don't know.
I don't think I'm rooting for anyone here.
I think it's really tricky.
It's, okay, so this year is going to be like full, almost rebuild.
But then it's, I don't know, if I'm the manager,
I want to know what's the plan for next year.
Because, like, okay, I'm probably going to finish this year with a record that's like 72 and 92.
Those games don't add up.
but sure, somewhere around there, not a math pod.
Never been.
Okay, so in year two, are we going to be able to sign two, three free agents,
and are we going to be able to be in above 500 team,
or am I going to be sitting there after two years of rebuild with two years of losing records,
and then that might be my one shot at being a manager?
So I know they only get so many, they only get so much pull when they're applying for a managerial job,
but that'd be something I'd want to know.
Yeah. Well, maybe they're asking.
But I don't think they have much say.
I don't think any of those three are turning down a manager's job if it's being offered.
Yeah. No, that's completely right.
The other fun update, and this is what I was yelling at you about,
is we had our first trade of the off season.
Yes.
The Toronto Blue Jays traded for Milwaukee Brewers right-hander Chase Anderson.
Chase Anderson had two years of options on the books.
This year for 2020, it's $8 million because he had a really good 2017,
so they were hoping he was a stud.
So they put in an $8 million option hoping he's a stud,
and that's kind of a cheap price for a pitcher.
Turns out Chase Anderson, good, not great,
kind of just a fourth, fourth, fifth arm.
But he's not bad, but not worth $8 million.
Probably worth like $2 million.
The Blue Jays are in.
dire need of a starting pitching.
So they said, hey, we'll pick up your options.
Trade them to us and we'll pick up both options for 20 and 2021.
And we'll give you Chad Spanberger.
I don't know who that is.
But the Blue Jays are in desperate need for pitching and they got one guy.
Like, they need to fill out of rotation.
So now they have a fourth starter.
Good job.
Yeah, and you're right.
I mean, 2017 was a big year.
He had an ERA in the two dots.
We haven't said the dots in a while.
That was fun.
Yeah, but it was aberration.
Yeah, his ERA's gone up the past couple years.
I mean, it was 4-2 last year, which again, in Juice Ball era, isn't awful.
But yeah, the Blue Jays, they are confident.
We got excited about the baby Jays this year.
They have a lot of bodies for their lineup.
So the fact that they can get Chase Anderson and not have to do free agency games or anything like that
and know that they have an arm that should be able to give them 150 innings and give them a chance in games.
So I don't know.
I'm happy for them.
I'm wondering if Milwaukee is more excited to get off the money.
And I think they're just taking a flyer on Spangenberger.
I looked at his minor league stats last year.
They weren't great.
But those were also the outlier.
Hey, we did it, baseball. Big trade.
Yeah, I mean, I think if you're a Blue Jays fan,
definitely look for them to go get more pitching.
I don't know if they're going to go out there
and spend the top tier money,
but like, you know, maybe Tehran,
maybe Pineda, Gibson.
Maybe they go get that tier, like someone from that tier.
Yeah, like Cole and Strasbourg, both to Toronto,
reported by John Boy, tweeted at John Hayman.
Oh, oh, oh.
Okay, Jake, here's some.
some, just rumors that I don't want to talk about.
The rumors.
Rumors that the Cubs are going to maybe try to shop Wilson Contreras around
simply because they need to free up some money.
They have all these young guys that are all about to get paid.
And he's the least of the studs.
They wouldn't want to trade him, but he's maybe the least that can return.
The Rays are looking to sign a catcher.
There are so many catchers in this free agent market that you can get to
split or you can there's like maybe grand doll's the only one that he's like a for sure he's your
starting catcher and a game changer at the position but there's a ton of options if you want to do that
um and i think that's all really there then there's some fun notes i have fun notes yeah i i don't know
just with the cubs and contraris it's it's kind of funny that david ross the former catcher they were
teammates. It was like Contreras's first year, but it's kind of funny that, okay, David Ross gets
hired and he's obviously a catcher, and now that rumor's out there. It feels like, I don't know,
if David Ross took this job and he loved Wilson Contreras, that this wouldn't be a discussion,
but the fact that it is makes me think he doesn't love Willie. Well, I don't think this is coming
from the Cubs. I think it's coming from people who are analyzing the money that the Cubs have,
knowing they need to freeze some up eventually to pay other guys
and knowing that Contreras is the odd man out.
Like I don't think the Cubs are shopping this.
I think it's reporters projecting.
Yeah, I don't know.
I guess if it was a catcher that David Ross loved,
I don't think the reporters would be projecting that.
Maybe.
Who knows how he knows how he feels about him?
Maybe the reporters don't.
This to me seems very money-based, not personal-based at all.
Just a rumor too.
knows. And then the other rumors that I said I didn't want to talk about it all were the Lindor
trait, because I just don't think it's happening. But our dude Buster Only had an interesting
thought on it. And this is, I'll just read Buster Only's quote from his article or podcast, whatever
it's from. The Orioles were underwhelmed with the offers they received on their superstar
infielder at Manny Machado when they shopped him in the 2017-18 offseason with one season
remaining of team control.
So perhaps Cleveland sees that and says maybe we should shop him with two years
because then the offers will actually be like blockbuster offers if no one wants him for
just one year.
And that kind of changed my mind a little bit.
I still don't think he's going to be moved, but they may shop him now.
What are your thoughts on that, that comparison there?
Yeah, I mean, I like that because you're right.
I mean, in today's Major League Baseball, organizations value their prospects too much.
They're not going to trade for one season of Mani Machado to see if he's fully bought in
and give up three of their top prospects.
Like, it just doesn't work like that.
Lindor, yeah, I mean, two years, I mean, you'd really have to pay the troll toll.
I'd have to go through the teams a little bit more and be like, okay, what team has a clear two-year window?
And I mean, would it be that everyone's talking about D.D. Gregorius to the Cincinnati Reds because they need a shortstop.
You wonder if they could.
And hey, those teams like to trade.
They did the Bauer trade.
You know, would a team like that be like, hey, we would never be able to sign a guy like Francisco Lindor?
Do we empty the bank of prospects for two years of something like this?
I don't know.
I think there's a chance.
I think if you're Cleveland, you want a full payday.
You want like four prospects for Frankie Lindor, and I think a lot of the teams in baseball aren't willing and wanting to do something like that.
So I don't know.
I could see it happening, but at the same time, I'd have to, I'd have to see the pieces come together in my head a little bit more.
I'd have to see a team that had a clear two-year window and had a couple prospects that they were kind of ready to punt on.
Yeah.
And if you're wondering, like, why trade Lindor at all, he's so good.
And he's in two more years of arbitration.
And he's going to command like 16 mil both years.
So they don't want to pay that.
If they're like trying to rebuild, they don't want to pay that for the next two years.
So might as well trade him and get superstars.
They could change their direction.
But they can also just compete with Lindor.
The Indians piss me off.
You're good enough to compete.
Fucking compete.
we don't have the financials, bro.
No, it'd be kind of fun, and speaking of financials,
but it's a team we've seen have a little more flex
in the past couple years.
How about the race?
Empty some of those young guys and fucking just go for it
for two years, Tampa.
Pay Frankie Lindor that money and roll it out.
That'd be cool.
That'd be fun.
Suck for Yankee fans like we are, but...
Yeah.
All right.
I like this update, Jake.
Oracle Park, the San Francisco Giants, are moving their bullpens to the outfield because they're in the middle of play and they've had some close calls recently with guys running on the mound, bullpen catchers getting hit, all that stupid stuff that comes with having the bullpens on the field.
So they're moving their bullpen to behind the fence, but that means that the fences are being moved in.
And Triples Alley triangle will be lowered by about a foot and moved four to six feet closer to home plate.
So a foot lower and six feet closer, Triples Alley, it's so far away that I don't know how much this is going to change things.
but I mean you do that anywhere else a foot lower and six feet closer that's a huge difference
when you bring in the angle to play kind of fun get those bullpens out of there I hate that
and I don't know it's the biggest in a in a game where home runs rule it's the least friendly
home run area so yeah and I think again this will come into play you know a couple triples
might become doubles and you know a couple couple triples might become home run
now if they leave the park.
So I don't know.
I don't think it's going to have a big effect.
I think we are going to laugh in a couple years that we have bullpins on the field
because they're just as dangerous as the hill in Houston used to be.
I'm laughing about it already.
It's stupid.
Yeah.
And, like, I, Jim, the part that actually made me laugh was the fact that they felt that they
had to be in the outfield.
Like, we're at the point.
We have cameras and stuff.
You can have, like, the bullpen can be underneath, like, behind the dugout.
Like as long as guys can get warm and you have cameras up,
like I do think it's fair that the other team knows like that someone is getting loose in the bullpen.
Oh, that would be cool if that wasn't part of the game.
You're like, what?
He's coming in?
That would be super cool in like the playoffs.
Like, oh my God.
Here come sail out of the bullpen.
We didn't even know he was warming up.
Remember that time?
Yeah.
like sail to close the ninth you'd be checking out the dugout and like counting heads um yeah sale when
he closed out the world series delam batances in those playoffs he came in like the third inning that was like
the yankee secret like that would have been a bomb that would have been pretty cool but um yeah i don't know
good good job giants yeah i'm interested i'd love to see if it makes any change belt has been playing
there forever and just getting robbed of home runs left and right because he plays in such a deep park
It's tough four feet
Yeah, we'll see
I mean that's a that's a shot out there
Yeah, it's so deep ready
But if you were to do that at like any other park
At any other like random area
Four to six feet in and a foot lower
Like that changes a lot of things
Yeah
All right the other fun thing that the internet's loving
Is the Padres are going back to brown uniforms
They actually look really nice
I am a big fan
Yeah you'd be surprised
I'm not a huge, like, uni snob.
Mostly because my attention to detail has been zero my entire life.
But yeah, no, get the Padres excited.
I went through the giant history of the Padres uniforms
because I was like, when did they stop?
Why did they stop?
And they just went to Navy Blue, which every team's Navy Blue.
Yeah.
Less Navy Blue teams.
I have a tough thought that's going to piss off two fan bases.
Here we go.
The Reds, anytime you tell me, like,
a team, like a guy's like when you said
Lindor to the Reds, I just picture him in a
reds uniform and I go, oh, that sucks.
Ooh, tough.
I just don't see it. And then you said Lindor to the
race and I was like, oh my God, that sucks.
You are right, Jim,
that would piss off two fan bases
and I think I know which ones.
I just think
the uniforms kind of blow.
Tough. I mean, the Reds were
gimmick uniforms once a week.
Yeah.
Because they're,
uniforms suck.
I think the Padres went through a big kick.
Camouflage Thursdays.
Yeah, they have the naval influence down there that they, and they were like, oh, these
are kind of cool.
So they got sucked into that a little bit.
Yeah, Unigames out of control.
What happened to just having a home and a road jersey?
What do you like the Nike's putting their little swoosh on all the jerseys?
I don't care.
I don't care either.
I don't think anyone truly cares.
It's just something.
No, people want to pretend to care.
The NBA has had advertisement logos on their jerseys for two, three seasons.
I mean, the clippers are literally Bumble.
They have the Bumble logo on their jersey.
Nobody cares.
But it's just the Celtics, I think they're GE.
Like people want to care for a week just to have something to care about,
and then you don't, and it's forgotten.
Yeah, I think people like having their auto responses.
I don't like this.
And then.
Oh, what?
Oh, 2019, we put ads on the jerseys?
These teams aren't making enough money.
The fucked up thing is that Nike is going to control which third party stores can sell official merchandise.
And who knows what discretion they're going to use with that?
And we don't know yet.
They could say everyone's fine.
Or they could be really dicks about it.
And like I know that all the stores around Yankee Stadium are very scared because if they can't sell official merchandise, they don't have stores anymore.
Right.
So that's kind of the shoddy.
I don't care about the swish on the jersey.
You will get used to that so quick.
It's like when Facebook makes a change and you're like, oh, I hate the new update.
And then like two seconds later, you're like, what was the old one like?
Yeah.
And then you run it.
I think we're losing Instagram like soon, right?
Oh, don't care.
Yeah, that's big.
Then you run into one guy, I'm like, I haven't updated in five years.
And you're like, well, cool, cool, man.
You're the hero.
Stay strong, brother.
Stay strong.
You're sucks.
You're working on an old format.
All right.
Automated strike zone to debut in the minor league baseball in 2020, says Rob Manfred.
And that's kind of the other update there.
I'm all for it.
Everyone's saying like it didn't work in the, that guinea pig league.
Like everyone hated it and they said it wasn't that good.
And it's like, well, yeah, they just fucking tested it.
What do you think they're going to run out and it's going to be expert?
It's incredible.
Like, this is what we're doing.
We're guinea-pigging it so it can get better and better and better.
Yeah, and I think that was one of the complaints was it still takes, like, I think they said three to five seconds for the pitch to register.
So you would like that to be a little quicker.
But someone was doing the math on that, and they're like, okay, another five seconds on every pitch.
And it's like, well, no, I mean, the catcher can still throw it back to the pitcher.
Like, we just.
It's not like the whole fucking world freezes.
The catcher doesn't have to frame the pitch for five seconds for the robot.
It's a learning process, and you're right.
I mean, by the time this technology gets to the major league,
the ball strike should be almost instant.
And it's just going to take, like the players are going to have to learn how to play with it.
Like, just throw the ball back.
Framing the pitch doesn't exist anymore.
The problem I saw was that the way it was calibrated was that if a breaking,
pitch just like dropped over the front part of the plate but never went through the plate.
They counted as a strike, which is kind of shitty.
Well, that's technically what it's supposed to be.
It's supposed to be if it nicks any part of that strike zone.
Yeah.
But yeah, that's going to be a big mind fuck.
Seeing balls bounce and hit the dirt, but they technically cross through the zone.
So to fix that, they need to just change the definition.
of a strike because no ump calls those anyway it has to pass through right so anyway all right let's
take a quick break then we're going to come back and we're going to see where jake thinks all the
free agents fit best what's up all right part two talking baseball we did some free agent stuff
last episode we went over like every free agent available that was kind of crazy it was a lot of
information taking like maybe the top tier i jake you have some better answers for this than me
I think you're more into this than me, but I'm excited to hear.
I ask some people on Twitter, but I don't have internet to go see it.
What free agent do you think fits best with the league?
Now, can I throw some at you that were common?
Because I think mine are common.
Yeah, I think there's two major layups, two pitchers that need to be discussed,
that are like, when you do the math in your head, like, yes, that would be cool.
Strasbourg to San Diego.
Yep.
I had totally forgotten San Diego State,
and it's funny because we don't treat San Diego like a normal sports city.
We treat it as a place like you go live there and you're like,
oh, chill vibes, man.
But like, yeah, he went to college there.
He just won the World Series.
That would be cool.
This team is looking to compete and come to a next level.
It would be a really cool fit.
San Diego has spent money, Hasmer, Machado, like Will Myr,
they'll write big checks.
So.
Yeah, and it's like,
it's part of their plan.
When they,
when they gave over that GM job,
they were like,
hey,
we are going to,
we've got the farm system.
We're going to spend for,
I think,
three years.
I think this would be the third year.
And then I think it's kind of back
to the drawing board.
I do think they'd like to have
the Hosmer contract back a little bit,
but.
Oh, yeah,
for sure.
But I'm saying they,
it's not like they're stingy.
They've had a plan in place.
And it's about to come
together, they need a stud.
So, Strasbourg does fit San Diego.
I agree with that.
We'll see. But even if they don't
land Strasbourg, I expect San Diego to get
a couple of those,
at least one of those top tier pitchers.
Like, maybe,
Jake, if they don't get Strasbourg,
and there's kind of a different conversation,
but let me do it real quick. Because I also
had, like, Ryu.
Yeah, and Ryu's a guy
that's been in the NL West.
They need one
they need one trusted guy to go with all of their young guys
to kind of anchor that rotation a little bit
because even if Ryu does fall off a little bit,
which again, his past two years have been insane.
But, you know, they've had Joey Lucchese troin the pill
for a couple years now.
Their young guys are getting their paddock,
but you still want kind of a veteran presence
that you can trust to go out there.
Because a couple of those young guys, yeah,
They'll take a step up and they'll be good.
A couple of those young guys are going to take a step down.
That's just how baseball works.
Okay. Paddock is kind of like a pitch is angry.
He's always like pissy on the mound.
You think better for them to get a dude like bumgarner so they can be pissy together
or Strasbourg so they can balance each other out?
Strasberg.
You tell Strasbourg to treat him like Scher.
Yeah.
Okay.
I like that.
Yeah.
The other big layup here that I tweeted out, a lot of people had it.
You've had it for like seven months, maybe even since last offseason.
The first time he got mentioned at the trade deadline, it was like, oh shit.
Wheeler to the Astros.
It just makes so much sense.
I think they can replace Cole, which, you know, a lot of people say that's crazy.
I think they can replace Cole for less money because Wheeler and Cole are pretty similar before Cole went to Houston.
and you just give Wheeler that special sauce,
that armed talent plus Brent Strom
and whatever they're doing over there with the analytics
and all that shit,
and Wheeler can become,
I'll say coal light,
just because to be nice,
just to make it not as hot takey,
but it does feel very much like, fuck.
Zach Wheeler would be like the final level of the experiment.
Like, okay, if you do him,
now you guys are pretty much,
have a cheat code going on.
But yeah, I mean, you go through his last two years.
I mean, his ERA doesn't fully line up with his FIP if you're one of those people.
But still the past two years, 60 starts at 365 ERA.
Also, Jim, the Mets pushed him.
Like all of those Mets starters, it wasn't like, hey, you pitched a good six innings.
Let's give it to the pin.
It's like, can you please give us seven?
So Wheeler probably wouldn't have that pressure if he goes to Houston.
And if they could even trend him up a little bit, which you have to expect at this point from Houston, like, yeah, you could get, you know, 85% of Garrett Cole's season, which that's still an ace, pretty much.
Yeah.
The other thing is, that's interesting is that if, like, Wheeler goes to San Diego, the Padres just signed Larry Rothschild the Yankees old pitch.
coach. So it would be interesting to see what he can become if like somehow they land there with him.
Yeah.
Whoever lands there. Larry. Larry. Jim, let's, I want to close off your book because you got you have two guys going, well, not going to the same team, but two guys that you thought would be their fun or good fits. That's a typo. One of those is a big time typo.
Okay. I was going to say, I was like, damn, Jim's got, Jim's really got something on the sleeves. I just saw that. No, I don't.
I got Rendon to the Mets.
Okay.
I don't think they're going to do it because they don't spend money smartly.
But they need a third baseman pretty bad.
And he's a fucking superstar.
Yeah.
And he brings this like, oh, see my, I worry the Mets would ruin him.
He brings this steadiness, like Rendon.
Just, he's.
He's been pretty consistent under the radar superstar.
He just became a real superstar in the World Series.
But we also, he's chill, like just a very relaxed vibe.
And the Mets, maybe he could counter Pete Alonzo's corny over the top vibe.
I like Alonzo, but whatever.
But then they need him.
They need big, they had the worst infield defense in MLB last year.
So not only do they need his bat, they needed a good,
third baseman. The Mets can spend money. They just don't.
So I don't think this is going to happen, but I think it's a really good fit.
No, I like it. And I think the Mets, we've talked about this third base pool a little bit.
I think I've got someone I like for the Mets a little better. But yeah, I mean, the Mets fans
would love it. And you're right, the risky run with Rendon is that kind of the monk personality
we talked about during the playoffs, a couple bad weeks in New York. And it goes,
This guy doesn't even care.
I'd love to see how he handles the New York media.
Yeah.
And yeah, maybe he's kind of, maybe he's not that guy.
I guess he's been in D.C., which, I mean, it's not New York, but it's still, I don't know,
they'll get on you a little bit.
Rendon, I had a really fun one with Rendon.
I was going, you know, thinking of the different teams.
And you've heard a lot of them.
I mean, Washington is still a big chance.
Still a big chance.
The Texas Rangers, Chicago White Sox, teams that have been rumored to spend a little bit.
How about Milwaukee?
Milwaukee just moved Chase Anderson.
So there's 8 mil.
No.
But yes, Manny Grundal comes off the books.
Mike Mustakis comes off the books.
And think about what Rendon just came from.
It was him and Soto with some surrounding pieces.
You could have Yelich and Rendon in the middle of that lineup for the next few years.
I really like that.
That's kind of the way baseball is going a little bit
is having those like two main pieces
and just filling in around it.
I don't know.
I don't know if Milwaukee has that 250 burger to lay out there
if Rendon asked for that.
But I think that would be a really, really fun pairing.
Well, I would surely put them over the top.
I mean, think about where they, yeah,
where they've been without having kind of that second bat.
You have one on here that I think is awesome.
Okay.
Point me.
you have Yassiel Pueig
to the Chicago White Sox
I did this one for you basically
And that is awesome
If anyone wasn't paying attention
The Chicago White Sox had one of the loosest dugouts
In the regular season for a team that really wasn't contending
But they got along
They had a ton of fun
They had they were like you know
The forefront, the flagship of the Swagger movement
and then Pueg is just a lightning rod.
If he goes there and fits in,
you could have a really fun team.
Now, I don't know about money or positionally.
I'm literally just talking vibe.
Yes.
So I knew vibe-wise you would love that
because you loved how fun they were.
Jim, they've got a spot for him in right field.
I mean, I don't want to be rude to Ryan Cordell,
but he had a 645 OPS this year.
He was in 97 games.
He played the majority of right field.
They signed John Jay before the season.
That was part of the Machado bait.
He was a bus for them.
And they need like another impact bat in that lineup.
So baseball-wise, it's a fit.
Dugout-wise, it's a fit.
Because you're right.
They're one of these fun teams and you let Puege be Pweig.
And Jim, another thing that you've literally seen this
as we've been podcasting for two, three years now,
You've seen this come over me.
I really like team dynamics.
Like the Pittsburgh Steelers have to have a mean defense and stuff like that.
The Chicago White Sox, their most recent success was like Ozzy Gian, being kind of the wild child.
So you know what?
Put Yassil Pueig in the fire and let it brew.
And you have a big threat in that lineup to go with Munkata, Eloy Jimenez.
Some of these young guys, McCann had a really nice year.
I think it's a fit all the way around.
they were trying to spend money last off-season with Machado and failed, and they spent money in
weird places to try and land Machado. So, I don't, that is a fun fit. It could be a lot of fun.
And Pueg, and obviously this will work out because he's a free agent, so its teams recruiting him.
He has to go to a team that lets him be him. Yeah. Like, you're not going to, you're not going to go out of your way.
Sign Pueg as a free agent, then try to harness him.
You just, you got to be smarter than that when you're doing it.
Like, you got to let him be the fucking lunatic he is.
Yeah, and I, I don't want to be rude to our White Sox listeners, but I think right now they're
talking big fish again.
And right now, I just, I don't think the appeal is there for the big fish.
But I do think, like, you're, you're a step away and you have Kopeck coming back this year
and different things like that, that if you bring in, you know, a couple of these second,
third tier guys if you bring in a Pweig, if you bring in another hitter, you can really start
to fill out the team more where they had some holes last year. Yeah. All right, you want to do the big
one? You want to go where you have Cole going? Or not where you have them going where you think
it's a fun fit? I think it's a fit and I think I've mentioned it before or if you've been listening,
they've kind of been my dark horse this whole free agency. Garrett Cole to the Texas Rangers.
They're opening a new stadium, so they need some electricity.
The Texas Rangers, I talked about team identities.
Well, we'll see what their new ballpark looks like,
but I'm assuming it's going to be another hitters park.
But right now, they really believe in Lance Lynn and Mike Minor.
So if you bring in Garrett Cole and you can make those guys your two, three,
now your whole team dynamic has changed,
and you're, A, you have to think Texas a little bit too.
the Texas Rangers are looking at Houston
and they're in the same division
and they're saying we just took your ace
and that's a lot of fun
that's going to create some really good energy
and I don't know like I'll always have this image
of Texas being able to fill out the lineup
with some different dudes
pitching wise has always been their struggle
and they found something last year
if you put coal on top of that
now you kind of have a really nice one two three
I don't know.
I just think that would be a really fun one.
That is John Heyman's bullshit mystery team of the 2019.
Whenever John Heyman tweets out,
Cole may be going to the Yankees, Astros, Angels, Padres,
or in the mystery team.
Texas Rangers are in that lump.
They are the lump.
Yeah, so I don't know.
I think that one's a little fun.
This one, I think, is kind of a quick hitter,
but I want Edwin and Carnaccio to go back to Toronto.
Fuck with all those young dudes.
He's with all the young dudes.
We saw the dynamic on the Yankees with the young guys there.
We kept calling him Uncle Edwin.
I think it's the perfect fit.
He's going to be a solid bat for them.
And he's a guy that like these young guys almost idolized to a little bit to a degree.
And yeah, he can kind of be Uncle Edwin.
win for the Blue Jays. I think that's a really fun one.
Yeah, I like that. Let's breeze through a couple of these others. You have Grandaal
going to the Angels or a good fit. Yeah, I like Grandal to the Angels. Grandal's the one I
can't like tune in. I honestly, I spend an odd amount of time on that because I was trying to
think like, what's the fit? Like, who's telling themselves they want him at Catcher and they
really want to pay him? And then I was like, oh, I think the Angels. Like you have a
catcher you believe in.
He's a switch hitter.
You know, you're giving Trout some help.
And I do think they're going to go out and sign a starting pitcher.
I know there's a lot of coal rumors there.
But either way, like Otani's coming back.
So I think you want a battery that you're competent in.
I don't think if you're the Angels next year and you sign whoever you sign.
I don't think you want to come in and be like, well, yeah,
Chorinos is battling out with Austin Romine and we're going to see what happens back there.
I kind of like them being like, hey, let's, Grandal's got some pretty good numbers.
We're just going to stick him behind the dish.
And he's another, he's one of the better hitters that Trout will have played with
throughout the past X amount of years.
Estella was pretty good last year.
Lestella was solid.
Bounce back.
And then Madvum to Atlanta.
Do you have, before we go there, do you, does a team jump out for Granda?
Like that you're like, oh, a good, good catcher, switch.
which hitter, batham fifth?
No.
But I'm not really familiar with every catch the catching landscape.
Yeah.
It's such a weak position.
Right.
And it's kind of like the Cubs are willing to move on from,
or the rumor is the Cubs are willing to move on from Wilson Contreras,
who's one of the best hitters at the position.
And you look at the two teams in the World Series this year.
I mean, they didn't necessarily have impact catcher.
So I think that's part of it.
Mad Bum to Atlanta, light bulb went off for me a little bit
just because if you remember when Atlanta lost and they got embarrassed,
I said, yo, Atlanta's got to go out and get a couple free agents
with big fuck you chips on their shoulder and say, we don't care.
Madison Bumgarner is one A of the guy who would say that.
That would be his opening press conference.
He'd be like, I don't give a shit how they lost in the NLDS.
Yeah.
And I don't know.
I think they've got all the young guys.
hopefully he could pass off some of that knowledge.
And he's kind of from that region.
They've been linked together a lot.
Get him back in the south.
Just keep him off those quads.
Madbom went to prom with Madbom.
Madison Bumgunner dated a Madison Bumgo.
He comes from a town full of Bumgarners.
It's pretty wild.
We might have to get there at one point.
Yeah, I'll start churning a little more.
Who have I missed?
Just Osuna you have is the only one.
Marcelo Zuna.
I put him on the Cubs.
I mean, they brought Castellanos in for the stretch run,
and he was an impact bat for them.
Castellanos kind of can't play defense, though.
So I've just got Ozuna basically being there Castellanos,
but he can play some corner outfit.
You don't think the Cubs will try to bring him back, Castellanos?
They might, but I just feel like you're starting to get into a tricky territory
because you still have Schwerber.
Now you have Castellano.
So you've got two guys that are, I don't want to say borderline fielders, but kind of.
Yeah.
And I don't know.
I just think, I think having one of those guys is okay on a team, then you start looking at
some lineups where you're like, okay, the Cubs corner outfields are horrible today.
If they have Schwabre and Castellanos out there, I just think Ozuna is plug and play
every day, Jason Hay, the Cubs just may.
And then you have Donaldson just going to an NL East team.
I mean, let me, he's not going to the Marlins.
No.
Okay.
We'll rule out the Florida fishies.
The Nationals, if Rendon leaves, they're going to have a hole at third base.
The Braves may want to re-sign him.
I don't think he's a priority, but he just played third base there.
The Mets, you link them with Rendon.
I think he's a pretty good fit with the Mets because they're, like,
you said the Mets have the money, but they don't really spend it.
Donaldson, you could give them two years big money or three years good money instead of the seven that you'd have to give Rendon.
I feel like the Mets are in a two-year window in their heads right now.
Oh, Lindor to the Mets, I just announced.
Who are we missing?
What's the other team?
I'm blanking her.
The Nationals, the Braves.
The Phillies.
The Phillies have been looking at third baseman, too.
So, I mean, do you think there's a chance Rendon?
Todd Frazier and Donaldson all land in the NL East.
That'd be a lot of fun.
So what would that be?
That would be Donaldson to the Mets,
Frazier to Philly,
and then Rendon back to Washington?
Could be.
Frazier to Philly is fun.
Hey, like, that's closer to his home in Jersey than Mets
and you know he wants to be close to home.
I'm just saying good clubhouse guy.
Good clubhouse guy for a new manager that he played with Gerard.
party, keep Harper in line.
Free agency math.
Balance out that shitty clubhouse guy, Arieta.
Ooh, that'd be cool.
You're liking it. Yeah.
That kind of adds up.
I mean, he is a Philly dude.
It's a Philly guy.
Philly would love him.
Philly would love Todd Frazier.
It's the anti-Gabe Kapler.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Wow.
That's cool.
That's fun to think about.
Yeah.
And then, I mean, from there, you look at
the free agency list. And I mean, let's be honest, guys like Dallas Kikl, Inji Ryu, like,
Oda Rizzi, like, you could put those guys on any team. I don't think there's anything that
jumps out and is like, oh, I need him there. Yeah, I thought about saying that because obviously
the, I mean, they have the, the market there. And they actually do want to spend. So there,
I could see that. Riu to the, Rue to the Padres, if they,
miss out on Cole.
If the Padres miss out on
Cole or
Strasbourg, then
maybe they get like Ryu and Madbom.
Can I ask you a question
as a Yankees fan? Sure.
Yeah. What if the
what would your reaction
be if the Yankees signed Ryu?
Okay. Cool.
Because there's a little bit of like, okay.
I'd be hesitant because I'm a
I'm a L.E.
snob.
Right.
But I don't know.
I think as a Yankee fan,
there's a little bit like,
okay, if you're going to go get Ryu,
you might as well just turn the knob up.
I was just going to look it up.
But the NL East was so bad, Jake.
And I think Ryu had all his games.
Well, he's in the West.
Well, he's in the West.
I'm sorry.
The NL West was so bad.
And I think he had like,
I think we did this during the season.
We looked at all the teams he played.
And we were like,
it was a lot of that in profit.
Yeah.
it's tough when you're on one of the good teams
when you're on the Dodgers
Yeah you never get you never have to play the Dodgers
But I mean you're playing right
You're playing bad teams that have a pitcher hitting
It's a little different
You take you take away one of the two
Like best hitting teams in the NL
Yeah there's there's a little bit of that
I don't know he's he's a little bit of wild card
The only like hitter that we haven't really talked about
I mean Mustakis you could find some stuff there
You had Dedi on there and I think this was your typo
Are you doing the D-D-D-D-D-2-Reds?
Yeah, adds up.
Yeah.
Started there, some nice full-circle stuff.
I think he looks bad in the uniform.
Someone talk me, he said.
Someone tell me where Grand Al's gone.
Okay.
Because it just, the angels made sense just because it's kind of,
it's a good, not great signing.
Like you're like, okay
It helps.
They have their superstar.
Yeah.
So they need a superstar pitcher,
but they have Otani,
they have chop.
They need like the supplemental guys
that are better than what they've been doing.
How about Ryu and Grandal to the Angels?
Boom.
Sure.
Oh, Ryu would look gross and all red.
I feel bad for him there.
I'm into it.
Damn, that's a tough look for him.
Let's take a quick break.
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There were some good ones.
I took like the first five.
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No internet life.
If I had internet, I could.
Yeah.
Cody Paxton, a Yankees fan follower, follows along.
If you could expand MLB to any two cities,
where would you go?
What's your, what's your number one pick?
Well, my number one pick is when you look at a map of MLB cities,
I feel really bad for Seattle and really bad for the Rockies.
They don't have any close friends, close proximity games.
Every game is a fucking longer train, longer plane ride.
They have no train ride games.
No.
They have no cross-town games.
I don't know.
where you would be able to put one that has the,
and I can't look at a map right now because no internet life.
It'd be Salt Lake.
Yeah, you could do Salt Lake up there.
Because you're not really going like in the Dakota's or anything.
Like all, there's a lot of Cubs fans that live in Nebraska area or Iowa area, you know.
So maybe another like kind of Midwest but a little more West area.
If they could get a team, I just love to.
balance it out. Like I like that Northeast is so crowded because that's where all started.
But every, every road series is like a hellish road series for the Mariners and the Rocky.
Split the difference. Put one in Idaho. Have no one to show up. Yeah, that's, that's the problem.
It's just like it's Omaha, Salt Lake, Vegas. I know there has been some Vegas buzz, and they might be my second city for fun.
My number one pick is Nashville. I think we did this a little bit during the season. Nashville is,
bursting city.
It's kind of baseball vibes,
like a little bit of country music,
a little bit move at your own pace.
The Red Sox can trade mooky bets there.
And they got pretty behind the predators,
and that's not like a hockey town,
but they became one.
So that'd be cool.
And I think you kind of see it in kind of that region
that it's like St. Louis is a big hockey baseball town.
I think Nashville would kind of be the same.
way. I think they have a nice minor league team stadium there, but I think they're ready.
Like that place is just exploding. And it's, dude, you mentioned the Cubs coming out to Colorado.
When there's a Cubs game in Denver, you know the city is packed with Cubs people.
Nashville, and so for the football team, for the Denver Broncos, you know whoever they're playing
that week because so many people are like, hey, let's go out to Denver for the
weekend. The Panthers are playing out there.
We'll look at the mountains. We'll do that.
People would do that with Nashville.
It would be go down on
Friday. You go to the Friday, Saturday
games, you go drinking.
I think Nashville, Nashville's ready.
All right. I like that one. So you
give one to Nashville.
I'm going to rove one around that
whole northwest area
until we find one that supports it.
Maybe that's what it is. They're the
Omaha Salt Lake team. Maybe you go back
to Portland.
Portland is another team that needs to be mentioned.
Another team up there would be cool.
Them and the Mariners,
that rivalry would be pretty geeky and I'm into it.
Yeah, if no one's ever watched the battered bastards of baseball on Netflix,
it's about this independent minor league team that was in Portland.
They were an independent team that played in the minor league league,
but they were independent and they were owned by Kurt Russell's dad.
And they were just fucking crazy.
They, like, had criminals on their roster.
It was nuts.
And they would get a ton of fans in Portland.
Go watch that documentary on Netflix.
It is fantastic.
California Penal League.
I think only city that I think we're leaving out.
Well, there's probably a ton.
I'm not going to.
Well, yeah, I mean, every area has their city that they're like, oh, we could do it.
Hartford, Connecticut would be good.
No, I think the one that's very real is Charlotte.
Charlotte doesn't have a team.
Yeah.
Put one in the south and one.
in the northwest. We need to spread it out. It's all northeast.
Like they say the rays are going to move to Montreal.
Like we got so many teams in the northeast.
Yeah. I think raised to Nashville or Charlotte seems like a winner to me.
You want a team in New Mexico?
I wouldn't hate it. Albuquerque, ball flies well.
Yeah, be nuts.
All right. Nick Dubois, Outlook for Nat's bullpen additions this offseason.
I don't want a deep dive this, Jake. I just will say there's, you guys.
trade or you got to go from within.
I mean, there's all the Astros arms, like Joe Smith, Will Harris, we did this.
There's not a lot of bullpen relievers that are game changers.
Yeah, I don't know.
If you're the Nats, you're looking to trade.
Maybe you bring back Daniel Hudson.
He just won you a World Series and maybe he found a little something special.
Yeah, there's not a ton of bullpen out there, Nats.
and hey, don't let it concern you too much
because you had the worst bullpen
and you won it all.
Good call.
Do you think this is Bobarino?
Bobarino, 69420.
Great username.
Do you think it's possible that Zach Wheeler
gets the Big Fish contract?
Example, 175 million in six years,
and coal gets left in the cold
when it comes to a long-term deal
and ends up settling for a two-year,
75 million deer deal
towards the end of free agency.
Bobarino, that is a hard and swift.
No, I do not think it's possible.
Yeah, no.
I mean, this is,
Garrett Cole is coming off one of the best years ever.
I don't know.
I think if we had to guess at Wheeler,
I would just put it at Patrick Corbyn's contract.
What do you get?
Six for 140?
I go a little less than that.
You think he's going to get less?
I don't know.
I think it's...
Depends where Cole and Strasbourg pushed the market to.
Yeah, for me it's just Patrick Corbyn had one really good season,
and he found his slider and he's a lefty, sure.
Zach Wheeler's always been like arm talent, top prospect, like drooling over him.
Now it looks like he's figured it out and like there's a little bit of a multiplier.
I don't know.
I'm going to, I would put the over under at the Patrick Corbyn contract.
You're going under?
Yeah, for now.
I think it's a little safer.
Just because the years.
I don't think he's going to get the years.
Yeah, maybe someone packs five.
But hey, that's kind of what we thought with Corbyn, too.
But he was also the only pitcher out there's the only one, yeah.
All right, hoodie, Gary, does Jake wear edible underwear?
And we've all been wondering.
That would be disgusting.
Everyone's a wondering.
That would be so disgusting.
No.
Why would you wear underwear?
At Yanks Bar says, if you could take any player that's never been an all-star to build a team around, who would it be?
Oh, shit.
I mean, I didn't read
I didn't prep for this.
Ooh, any player that's never been an all-star
to build a team.
Has Fernando Tatis been an all-star?
Like I'd have to look at,
I can bring up, show me those Tatis.
Yeah, I mean, that's the game.
It's the best, it's the best young player
that hasn't been an all-star.
No, Tatis has not been an all-star.
Okay.
Has Anduhart?
No, you're not going to build her on Andy-Har.
What about a pitcher?
No.
Paddock.
Okay, I'm doing the Padres.
Paddock?
Did Soroka do it?
Has Flaherty made an all-star team?
I don't think he has.
No, Flaherty has not made an all-star team.
There you go.
Boom.
Last one from Jared Golf.
33 Golf.
He asked, did I look into how many players would be affected
if Chris Bryant wins his hearing?
And this is kind of a topic that I thought
I would just share in case anyone doesn't know.
Chris Bryant is taking the Cubs to whatever.
He has a hearing.
It's a grievance.
He filed a grievance because the Cubs delayed calling him up until the two weeks
into the season because that is when there's a hard date that says if he gets called up after this day,
then this season doesn't count towards his service time.
You get six years of service time or seven years of service time.
So a lot of teams do this.
delay calling up rookies until two weeks into the season because you get basically a full season,
but it doesn't count towards their full season. It delays their free agency one full year.
It's fucked up. Chris Bryan is filing a grievance. I do not think he will win it because
don't be mad at the team. Be mad at the fucking CBA for putting a stupid rule into the agreement
that like the CBA put all these rules in and the owners were like, okay, we'll manipulate that.
And it's CBA's job to make sure they don't get manipulated.
Also, Mike Alt was on the Cubs as a placeholder and he did happen to get injured three days before they called up Bryant.
So they can use that as an excuse even though that's not really what happened at all.
They were doing it anyway.
But the question that we had was how many other players, if Chris Bryant was
able to win this would be able to do it. I know Glaber Torres would be able to do it for the Yankees.
Vlad. Vlad Guerrero would be able to do it. I mean, even on the Yankees, like they did it again with
Canely and they did it again with Drory, but they really have excuses for those built in, but it was
a kind of secondary. It wasn't as blatant. But I tried to research this, Jared, and I couldn't.
The best way to research it was, is to ask a die-hard fan of every team because there's not,
There's not an article out there with it all listed.
Yeah, I mean, I'm trying to think of when Soto got called up originally, but yeah, I don't know.
I don't think anything's going to happen because you're right.
It turns into a rar, rules or rules.
It sucks, but this is what your organization agreed to.
And yeah, like, just think of the chaos that would ensue.
Like, yeah, Bryant wins.
Labor is a free agent a year.
earlier.
Like, it, it would, it would just lead to so much chaos that it, I don't think that's
going to happen.
I think it's good that he filed a grievance to make this more public knowledge.
And the next time the CBA makes their, it's in like, 2020 or 2021, whenever the new
collective bargaining bargaining agreement is, like, fix this, you idiots.
Yeah.
You did so much wrong.
We were at last winter meetings.
And the, the big hubbub word was.
that there is going to be a strike when they have to do the next CBA
because free agents weren't getting paid.
By the end of free agency, everyone got paid pretty good.
They also agreed to be able to work on the new CBA earlier.
Because if they didn't work together for these next two years and then just sat down,
there was no way they were going to agree in the allotted time to make it.
So they agreed to extend talks to start them now so they can figure out what they need to get done
so a strike doesn't happen, which is really smart of them.
And it's important that they address basically the middle class.
And it's the perfect time because look at the Washington Nationals.
Look at Howie Kendrick.
Look at Astruble Cabrera.
These are guys that are getting money.
That are free agents.
But a lot of teams were saying, hey, instead of paying these guys 8 million,
let's just bring up a couple young guys and get 75% of the production.
So now is kind of the perfect.
time to strike.
Because they need the young guys to hit free agency earlier.
Because there's just a list of young guys that they don't get to free agency in time,
and it's over.
You know, Todd Frazier is a guy that he was one of the premier players in the league,
like an all-star third baseman.
I mean, he's still good.
But when he hit free agency, he wasn't Cincinnati Reds, Todd Frazier, hot corner,
blah, blah, blah.
And there's just so many guys you could.
point to around the league that if they hit free agency two years earlier, I mean, they're two years
younger and your body father time's undefeated. You don't need to hear that for me. I mean,
Madison Bumgartner, in theory, you know, Dallas Keikle. Yeah. The CBA, the union, they thought
they were just insuring jobs by making seven years of control. They're like, oh, good, if you make it
to the MLB, you will have seven years of solid pay. And they're like, wait,
though. They just fucked. They just fucked from making like your actual first paycheck. So whatever.
That ends this show as my phone's dying. We, uh, we have the awards coming up. Rookie of the
year, manager of the year, Sy Young, MVP. We will be doing mini sodes this week, uh, reacting to the
winners and kind of talking about those. So stay tuned. I should have internet. We should be live and on
YouTube and all that good stuff by then. But for those that just listened on the app, you didn't get affected
at all. Enjoy your weeks. Hey, Jimmy. Yeah. You know who's a free agent that would have loved to be a free agent one
year earlier? Who's that? Scooter Jeanette had a terrible year. He was the story of last year,
All-Star Stud. And that, like, that's a perfect example. Yeah. That's also a little bit of bad luck
because of the injury. Yeah, it's bad luck too. But. But, all right. Thanks, guys. We appreciate you.
We will be back tomorrow or the next day or whenever to do the minisodes. And then,
another full episode next week.
See ya.
