Talkin' Baseball (MLB Podcast) - 68 | Dallas Braden & Jared Carrabis from Starting 9 Joined Us At Winter Meetings to Talk Some Baseball

Episode Date: January 13, 2020

We talked about some new rules and changes to baseball. How 'new media' is helping the game? Are the Red Sox trying? Will the Yankees get Cole (Spoiler: they did) and a bunch of other fun stuff. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Welcome to talking baseball, starting nine crossover. We got Jared Carabas, Dallin. Whoa. Hey, it's been fun. Dallan. Great to see you again. Dallon braided me. How's going?

So now am I, my Dallin boy? Dallon. Hey, I had speech impediment growing up. Don't make fun of me. Oh, no, you were the kid I crushed. Oh, no. Yes, absolutely. I was a whale-o-o-old kid.

Oh, no. Oh, no. Ours just completely out of the, out of the, spectrum. Yeah, I had to go, they took me, well, the intro music still playing, but they took me out of the classroom in first and second grade. I went to a trailer and they were just like, oh, that's what I did. And I'd go home and I'd have to hold a spoon on my tongue and then like fight it back. They didn't have to do any like any landscaping in there. No, no, no, it was good. I overcame it. Yeah, no, you did. Now he's off his leash. Yeah. Now he's gone. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Dallin the world up. No, Dallon. Yeah. Did you want to give a shout out to your instructor? No, but I was with there. with a bunch of kids that had Lips and I was like, you guys suck. Like, I'm so much better than you. My impediment is so much better than your impediment. Yeah.

I was like, that blows. Oh, dude, what's the water bottle thing you wanted to do? Oh, well, you had to empty it. Did you empty it out? Yeah, yeah. Okay, well, are there, where's the smelling salt? Oh, yeah, we'll get those. We had, this is a smelling salt and wine podcast.

Okay. I'm into that. Because that's what we need. These are just, this was something that, like, as a pitcher when you're very bored, which was, sure, every day that you're not pitching. Four out of five days. Sure. You just find little, you find little shit to do.

Can I say? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So you just take these, well, how many, what do you got in here? I don't want to. How many you need? Crazy.

Well, no, I mean, you don't need a, I guess you don't need an ass load, really. But we would just take, I'm going to take, I'll take a couple. I mean, is this like a, gravity bonged? No, no, no. No, it's, it's very mean. Okay. Perfect. Yeah.

So, like, you get, you get somebody talking, get them really focused on the conversation. And then you get the guy who has put a couple of these smelling salts into a bottle and let it permeate for a while. And then he comes up behind you and like a total asshole. After he's shaking this bottle up, he just blows it, comes up underneath you. And then blows it right into your nose, right into your face. Do you want to switch seats anyone? You've got to feel. So it's kind of like that hot foot, but it's like a hot nasal.

You know, you're just not exactly sure when or where it's coming from and then bam. Jared, how you do it? I don't take smelling salts too poorly, I feel like. We did the Vibs segment with lowering the bar. And everyone in the office did smelling salts. And I think I think I took it pretty good. He did like 18. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

No, he's a psychopath. Yeah, I actually, I've got a bad relationship with smelling salts. I was pitching one day in Texas and it was balls hot, obviously. And I cracked a smelling salt and shard of glass like right in to my thumb. And I was like, son of a bitch, are you kidding? There's glass and smelling salts? Yeah, it's like fiberglass or whatever it is in there. And sure enough.

Left hand? Yeah, my left hand. Absolutely. And like I was bleeding. Had to come out of the game. What was the report? What was the official injury? Blister.

Nice. Yeah. For the smelling salts. Yeah. Trevor Barrow would have stayed in the game. Yeah. Well, I couldn't feel my, my thumb. Pretty big deal.

You know, for me like he, sure, his hand was hanging off of his wrist or whatever it was. Try to pitch to it. Because he was trying to calibrate the drones. Yeah. You know, that last C.C. Throw after he hurt himself and he threw another. Dude. Well, I love, I love shit like that because that's a pure example of like, you got to protect the athlete from themselves.

Yeah. What do you mean? Like, like, Bauer's looking down at his hand, like, like having to shade his eyes from the glisten of the lights bouncing off his bone that's exposed. Did you hear what he wanted to do? Yeah, just super the glue the bitch, let's roll. He wanted to cut it off. No, he wanted to cauterize himself. Okay.

Perfect. He told the trainers to do it, and then the trainers said no. So then he was like, I'm going to do it myself. He's like, let's do this knowing they would say now. Then he wanted to do it himself, like a lunatic. Yeah, no, that's the, hey, that's what you do, man. I guess so. That's what you do.

Good for him. Yeah, good for him. How many other injuries did you lie about? Um, yeah, I don't know if there's been like fabrications of injuries. Like, obviously, I never made an injury up. But there's some things like, you know, hey, you've got some leeway. You don't have to be very, you know, detailed, you know? Look, 2009 at the end of the season, I miss some time in the month of August.

And if you go back and look at the injury report, or as to why. We can do that. We got guys for that. Just between us girls, there was probably a little more to whatever injury report you're going to end up brief. Got it. Okay. Hashtag Jugs, just us girls. There you go. And then I'll just make up our own thing. Jake and I always marvel because we're short-fat non-athletes. Cheers. Cheers. Glad your boys can join us.

Thank you for having us. Cross-over season. Actually, those gentlemen walking behind you, they took the shirtless pick of me to bait you guys in. Yeah. And that was our own. I said, hey, do you mind taking a weird picture?

Done and done. Okay, cool. And then Jake was here shirtless. And they're like, ah, fuck. They or someone else, they were like, they asked like about the competitive stuff. And we're like, like there's so much room in this market like everyone's more than allies like we're we're rooting for

you dudes and i think you guys are ruined for us i don't want to throw that out for you for you too much but like i wasn't rooting for you guys at easton though we weren't on the same team that's fine and i get that because that's that's the good competitive we were on the team that won i solved a puzzle we did lose by one point well yeah it seems like uh the line of shields was just unbelievable Part of my job is keeping him in check. The other way to spend that is he technically took money away from the other charity. Yeah, yeah. So he took money away from charity.

Yeah. But I care about kids more than houses burning down. Okay. Wow. I'm from California and I take strong offense to that. So you hate kids? No, I'm okay. I'm okay with mine for the most part.

Sure. All right. I like mine. You know, it was seven out of ten. Yeah. Pretty messed up about the Easton event. What? They split us up on everything.

Yeah. Yeah. They did. Yeah, you guys were the big fish. They had to split you guys. Yeah, because we got to tell you this, like the starting nine rub. The starting nine rub is real. Two of us together with anybody on, like, there's a good chance.

Jenny Finchkins abducted into the baseball Hall of Fame. Tomorrow. Tomorrow. Yeah. It's kind of like the stones in end game. Yes. Once Thanos gets them all, I mean, it's, you've lost me. So you're not a Marvel comic movie.

I have no imagination when it comes to movies. So I just got into it. These are new references for me. Great. Yeah. So you're just using them well. Yes. Are you like fully, are you head over heels or what?

I'm trying. So Robbie Fox is our resident nerd at Barstool. Yes. And I asked him because I watched, you know, we take a lot of flights and there's only so many movies you can watch. And I was like, all right, I got three hours to kill. I guess I watch fucking endgame.

I guess. It's three hours. Did you watch all the 16 beforehand? No. So I went, I started backwards. So I was like, all right, I'll watch the Avengers movies. And then I was like, what do I have to watch to like catch up to this point?

And he's like, here's a list of 16. movies over 72 hours that you can watch to catch up to this. It's aggressive. Yeah, we have a movie podcast and they made me go watch Thor. I watched that. I came back and I was like, guys, this is like really bad. And they're like, that's one of the best ones. I was like, no, that's like genuinely like a really bad movie.

Which one do they make you watch? Thor Ragnarok. That's the one I watched in the flight over here. And like Robbie wrote a blog like that's one of the funniest movies ever seen. I'm like, these guys are fucking weird that. Well, that's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it wasn't trying to be complete. Completely serious.

He's got a mental block. He like can't get over the fantasy hurdle. Don't tell me Thor's one of the funniest movies. It was not even funny. But I'm with you. I'm with you if you're a more like I'm a more serious like kind of give me the real shit. Yeah. You know what I mean?

Like I have this block against like I fuck I hate. Don't give me the Netflix. Like don't make me the captain that night because we will spend we will spend all night just searching because I have this thing where yeah. Like if it was if it if it came out in like 2017, I'm like fuck that's way too old. Yeah. So much shit is. happened since then. That is so unrelatable right now.

Especially in the documentary world. Oh, absolutely. I'm a big doc guy. Yeah, huge doc guy. I mean, if I, if you're going to tell me to watch a documentary from 2015. Love to talk. No, pass. Can't do it.

No. Uh-uh. What's favorite baseball movie? We watched Major League in Phil Hughes's van. And Major League holds up so well. Oh, yes. That does. Yeah.

It's really funny. It will, it is a transcendent movie. Like, especially when you think about the minor leagues and what's happened, like the attack on the minor leagues. league system right now and just like the whole everything that's involved with guys coming out of absolutely nowhere trying to get to the big leagues what that lifestyle is like like that like major league is a it's a it's a it's just it is it resonates yeah I know when I was playing in the minor leagues I was like this lifestyle yeah you guys are talking about oh how what I started with was

Jake and I not being athletes and we always marvel at like like I woke up two weeks ago with just the stiffest fucking neck and I couldn't turn and I was like does this happen to athletes what do they say what do they lie about Or do you just go get massaged out? Yeah, that's usually... They've got access to some shit. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, like... Some needles. Well, what are the thing? I'm a huge... Oh, speaking of... I'm a huge acupuncture guy. Really? You would be.

Oh, yeah. You give off that five. I got my grandma on that. Well, shit, when your arm falls off, you will try anything. You ever do cupping? Oh, big time. I've got my own cup set. I've had my own cup set.

Like, I've been on that train. Do you have it here? No, I do not have it here. Have you ever cupped someone else? Yeah. My grandmother, my wife. I've got other buddies that I've cupped. Why have you never cupped?

Yeah, why don't you cup Jared? We can cup. We can spoon, spoon. What is it cupping do? Besides, make Michael Phelps look like a sickly person in the pool. So if you think about a sausage, the meat within the sausage is showing. And Jake's Monday through Friday. The meat within the sausage represents your muscle.

The skin outside the sausage would represent what is called myofasha. And your muscle moves within and underneath that myofasha. that can get bound down and constrict the movement of the muscle. So what cupping does is it helps stimulate blood flow to an area, and it also helps separate the myofascia from that muscle body, and it promotes healing, and it promotes the release. So almost like an acupuncture effect of sorts, ancient Chinese approach was they use flame,

and they put a flame under that cup and then put it out and allow the sucking of the oxygen to do the cupping. And the blood that comes to the surface, like the really affected areas become like fucking dark purple. That's where you see those like, oh my God, you should probably talk to somebody wounds. You look bad. You lost me a Chinese sausage. Yeah. Speaking of.

It was never a. Jared, I got something for you. Okay. And this is going to be a compliment. Oh, wow. Congrats. I know. Thank you.

Stop there. Hot takes. Only. Stop it. So Jimmy and I were talking one day. And I was, I think we were on the mics and I was giving him this, like, like, you know, like, dude, 10 years is going to be rough. We're going to look like tenacious D.

Like, we're going to have Jack Black, Kyle Gas Fives. It's a great reference, that. Jimmy. Pick of Destiny is one of the most underrated movies of all time. Jimmy goes stone face on me and he goes, bro, what are you talking about? He's like, I'm glowing up. Yeah, yeah. He's like, I'm doing that L. Perez Adderall died as soon as I get enough money to do it.

He's like, he's like, dude, do you think I'm putting in all this time now to not glow up? So I think you've had a pretty nice glow up. I used to look like a meth addict. This is good. Yeah, no, this is where it's at. Do you have any tips for us when we're approaching that? Oh, man. Honestly, I don't even know how it happened.

I think I just changed. You moved to New York. I moved to New York and I was around people that dress better. So I think like it's weird because when I, in like 2013, I dressed like a homeless person, but I was in the best shape of my life. And then I came to New York and I stopped working out entirely. And then I just dressed better. And then everyone's like, oh, my God.

And I grew my hair out. I grew my hair out. And everyone was like, oh, my God. I don't plan on dressing better. I have committed to the Adam Sandler lifestyle. He's my influence in fashion. This is like, I fucking hate this. I have to wear pants right now.

I put on shorts just to go to Hughes's house. I told my girlfriend, I said it's basketball shorts and sweatshirts and local t-shirts. We're going to see Adam Sandler in a month, I believe, and I'm going to make sure, like, you're my fashion icon. Right. Let him know. Let him know. Yeah. But I just don't want to be like a fat slob with a hunchback anymore.

That's where I take, like, when Perez was starting barstoyer talks about how, you know, he spent fucking 17 hours at a desk. And that's been my life for two years. So he's been hunched over for a long time. Yeah, so as soon as we get the office. John Boy yoga is probably the next thing. Whenever we go for the physical. Are you going? I'll be there.

Content. It's at 7 a.m. We're going to. We've been getting up there. There's no one here. Someone's going to go. Well, Dallas will go.

Every doctor that did like the physicals in middle school or high school when they would come like just do that shit, they'd be like, you're pretty unflexable. Yeah, I know. I can't even touch my toes. Did you not play sports as a child? I did. I played hockey until I was like, you know, 20 or whatever.

And I played baseball until they told me to stop, which was. which was 14. They tell you or they suggest they're like, well, they were like curve balls exist now. So maybe you should. It's $50 to play on the high school team.

Oh, no, we don't want that money. We're good. Keep that. We're good. Yeah, we got some old balls from last year. We'll be able to roll it out.

That's great. That's great. I didn't, I got, they didn't accept me. When we were trying out for JV baseball, I, this is the first time this will,

be ever told and my dad listens to every podcast. I stole my parents' car. I didn't have a license because I forgot it was tryouts and I had my permit and I was like oh fuck tryouts were today. I'm late. So I... Did you have a nice look in the mirror at yourself like this is a do or die moment

in my life? Probably the safest I've ever driven. Well I drive pretty slow and boring now but so I got there but I didn't want to drive with my cleats so then I showed up to tryouts and I didn't even bring them. So then I just remember that I tried out barefoot and they were like don't you're fucking off the team. Yeah,

you don't get to show up barefoot. What was I going to do? That's how Lorenzo Kane made the baseball team. He, like, showed up in, like, jeans and tried out. Shrewlish Jimmy O'Brien. Different talent. I thought it was going to be a cool nickname. A little bit.

Yeah, I don't think he ever played baseball for that. But I'm guessing the uni probably, probably matched up with the skill set is what I, I'm, I'm just throwing that. I don't mean, I'm not just, no, I was, I was a decent catcher. I didn't try out for catcher because they had this kid that was like. Well, because you didn't have any fucking shoes on. We could start.

We can start there. No, we had the catcher in our town. It was like, Dad made it to AAA and built like a box truck. And like they didn't ask like, who's trying out for catcher? They were just like, hey, LeMay, come here. So like that reminds me of the, like I remember my sophomore year and junior college. This guy coming to try out. And he shows up in purple windbreakers, like windbreaker pants, a black tank top and no hat and his glove.

And that's it. No hat's really good. practice up in Major League too. Ready to roll, right? And he tells the coach, I want to, I want to try out for pitcher. Oh. And our, like, the look on our coach's face is just fucking priceless. And he's just like, you can see the wheel spinning.

And he's like, all right. He's like, you know, left-handed, what do you feature him? And the guy goes, um, what's that mean? Well, I just have, I just have my glove. I just. And what's your mix? Right, right. Well, then the coach, and our coach goes, what do you throw?

And he goes, like fast balls and curve balls, but mostly like, mostly just fastballs. And we're like, all right. So he starts playing catch. Now it's the most anticipated tryout. Well, our coach, like you can, and you can tell, like, you know, the guy goes to throw a ball one time. You've got a pretty good feel for how the next few throws are going to look. And it took that one throw when we were like, uh-oh, this is not going to be great. So he sends him out to the mound and sends our All-American short stuff.

stop. Chase did us out to the fucking batters box. And this kid, like, kind of to your point, like, he didn't need a catcher. It was like that scene from Field of Dreams. Hey, uh, don't, don't we need a catcher? And Shulis Joe just is digging in and doesn't even look up. And he's like, not if you get it near the plate, we don't.

And that's exactly how that went. Not a single fucking ball made it to the catcher. I think he threw like four or five pitches. Jace hit two of them out and like one off the fence. And we were just like, This is so unfair. Like, if you could ever just light a kid's dream on fire right in front of him. In real time.

That is exactly what happened. Like, you couldn't draw up those results any better to tell a kid, this ain't for you. Yeah. Should we quit commercial? I think that leads us into fun baseball. Dallas has a fucking thing in his hands. I'm just scared of a little bitch. Oh, yeah.

I forgot. I'm so dumb. I would be messed up by now. Well, look at me. He's got the body shielding me off. Yeah, yeah. Look at this. Anyway, yeah, we're going to throw it to a break.

We could talk a little baseball stuff. Ooh. Let's... Did you unleash a little bit? One... Just the mere... Just the mirror. I like want to do it.

I've done them before. But just the fact that I don't have say over when it comes near me is... It's a... It's better to just... Smelling salt. Well, the idea is you ask that question, right? You have the guy in front of him. He asked the question.

I'll flash a little bit. What I was jumping to, which... You mentioned the excitement of that guy throwing his first pitch to that shortstop that was obviously, you knew what was coming. Baseball ideas, they get thrown a lot, some fun stuff. I'm thinking, can we just put bullpins behind the dugout, and you don't know who's coming? So, like, pitcher gets pulled from the game, and the crowd's looking around, and you're like, I think I know who's coming.

But then someone else comes out, and it's like, oh, shit. Yeah, we thought if they had secret bullpens, it would be pretty, it could cause for some fun drama in games when, like, you know, you don't know. So, like, they just don't announce. Like, so the other team still has the ability to know how because not. Because you're messing with strategy. Or is just pure for the fans? No, the other team and the fans has, like when the pitching change, everyone's like,

who is it? Even the opposing team. Like, maybe like they don't think Chapman's available. Right. And then Chapman runs out. But do they have time to, do they have time to make a change once he's, make their adjustment? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

All right. So the, so the anticipation is fleeting what it's there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. But secret bullpins, we were like, that could be fun for a second.

Well, I think I like the idea a little better if you're not able to adjust as an opponent. That really throws like, so you like that more. Yeah, well, because I was only cowering that

because I thought you wanted to hear that answer. We like, you can't adjust. Yeah, you can't. Yeah. Well, that's what would make it fun. Yeah.

Yeah. Because like, that's say, say, fuck. Yeah. Like, oh, okay, shit. Well, um, You think Chapman's coming in and then, like, Joe Smith comes out.

Right. Go get them. Shit. Okay. That's the idea of, you know, you're sending the decoy up on deck. This is who I've got ready for you. Yeah, or you got the decoy down in the board. Or like this.

Like Soto's up in the playoffs and it's the fourth inning or something, but there's men on. And he's walking up to the mound and then in the wild card game or whatever fuck you want to have it. And then all of a sudden, Hater comes out in the fourth for the matchup. Whoa. Okay. This is it. That'd be cool. Yeah.

And the fact that they can't. I mean, not that I don't think one. Lido leaves the ball game at that time. But that's like you're talking about a very crucial. But it's a whole different mindset. Oh, absolutely. Sure. Like I got your one better though.

Turned it up. What do you got? Wrestling entrance ramps. So like, okay. You like them down like the Royal Rumble. I still like the like when Rodney was coming down in the golf cart in the playoffs.

Golf cart was great. I love a good ballpen cart. But if you have a like a Titan Tron with a wrestling entrance ramp and then you have the crowd counting down from say 10 or maybe five, then you have a surprise entry. It goes three, two, one. And their song. Yeah, the music comes on first.

Yes. Oh, shit. By the way, I hate a Rollis Chapman. He has the most electric entrance of any Major League reliever right now. Why do you hate him? Because he's got skinny legs and big arms. I don't know.

I think he did some things. Oh, it's the bad guy stuff? Yeah. Bad guy stuff. Yeah, off the field, bad guy stuff. Robles has a pretty... That one's great, too. has a pretty light. Oh, yeah. That one's great, but they need to cut the lights.

So hot right now. Yeah. If they're going to, if they're going to do it, then they got to do it. No, you are right, though. Like, if every reliever had that, like, Chase and Shreve comes in, it's like a little bit chicken fried. All right. They try. I think for the most part, they try. I think teams try. Because we see, like, as I, you know, as I travel around, I see teams that really do that. I mean, Anaheim being an example. I know at home, the Oakland A's, they do shit like that for. Were you around the A's with Careless Whisper with Redick? Oh, yeah. That was pretty cool. That was great. That was fun. Yeah.

He went through a phase with like different wrestling entrance themes as well. Yeah, he was a big, I mean, obviously he's a huge wrestling fan. He is. Yeah. Yeah. So he, I mean, he played that up. He does a great job with bringing that side of his personality into the game. It's, uh, it's really cool.

He was, I remember, I mean, him and I were, him and I were almost like jockeying for the first time that the whole pie thing started in Oakland. Like him and I were there. He hit him with, I forget who it was, but he hit him with the pie. I hit him with the Gatorade. And that was just a thing. Like, he put on the Spider-Man mask and it was a go time.

I wish that more baseball players embraced the pump-up song versus the relaxed song. Well, I would just do church bells. I think it would be weird. People would be like, what the hell is that? But a lot of guys will come up to, like, country. And then I'd cross myself seven times. Yes. I asked Brock Holtz.

I was like, your name is Brock. You need to come out to Brock Lesnar's entrance theme. He's like, I like country music. It makes me relax at the point. I remember when Brock had that terrible haircut. actually do you know why you cut his hair because his kid was like dad your hair sucks no he went to visit a hospital and someone one of the kids that he was visiting in the hospital was mistaking him for like a woman yeah he looked like an umpalumpa it was a weird haircut they're like are you a girl speaking of uh do you regret not having like this get up on the mound no no no no

you wanted it no why i don't think so the intimidation factor would have yeah like you look at pictures of you now with the goatee and i'm like damn that guy is lame compared to this No, the radar gun does not lie. Like, like, just because I have the beer doesn't make the 86 any harder. It doesn't make a 96. If it did trust me, I'd have been wearing this motherfucker a long time ago. It was a wippy 86. It was a confident, I was going to say. Very confident. The most competent 86 in the league.

Yeah, no, a lot of people, it's funny you say that because a lot of people have been like, man, like, seeing this side of you. Well, I'll tell you this story. It was like throwback day. We're wearing our 70s jerseys, I think. And I have my afro picked out. I'm actually in the clubhouse's or the clubby's office. And I'm heading out, Billy Bean walks into the office.

And he's like, oh, D, the fro picked out. Love it. And so I'm like, yeah, good shit. And I roll down. I'm on the bullpen bag. So I've got to get down there early. So I've packed the snack bag,

take the bullpen bag down. And like I've got my hair picked out, my hat just fucking, you know, in my back pocket. Hair is banging. People loving it. And I get a phone call.

And just listen to how this sounds. I get a phone. call down in the bullpen on the bullpen phone before the national anthem from our manager Bob Garan at the time and the phone rings the bullpick coach just looks to me like hands me the phone is like hey it's for you. That's a bad sign. No this isn't for me. This isn't good. This is not good at all. And he goes, hey, do you put that fucking hat on your head if you want to see the mound today? Sound good? I was like, sounds great. Sounds great. But I was so pissed because I was like, Damn, the GM just...

Being liked it. Billy loved it. We just saw Billy earlier. Yeah. Bob, could you go talk to Billy? Right? Let's go. I mean, I'll put the hat on, but you just try it with Billy.

Well, like, I felt like the, like the little kid who's like, you know, arguing with his parents. Like, but dad said it was fine. What do you mean? Yeah. Not happy about it. Coco used to rock that. Oh, yeah. Better than anybody.

Yeah. Yeah, I was like, how's the hat work? I mean, I never got that. Never had an app fall off all the time. Yeah. They used to knock their hats off on purpose back in the day. They're like, hey, who did that? Willie Mays.

Well, on defense. Yeah, and Ken Burns' documentary, if he was running for a ball, he would throw his hat because then the crowd would be like, oh, he was really running. Yeah. It was like just catering to the dumbest people for entertainment. Hey, that's what I'm.

Exactly. He was a showman. He knew it. That was DRS before. But now we'd have replay and be like, he did that on purpose. Back then they were like, well, who knows?

That's why I mentioned Bryce Harper's name, because when he first got into the league, right, and he's rounding first, and that helmet's jostling, and he just fucking heaves it. You're like, oh, yeah. But it's kind of cool because you're like, oh, yeah, he's going for three.

Yeah, that helmet ain't coming off if he's pulling up at second. Yeah. Nunez is the biggest helmet falloff guy. You guys got to experience that as well. Hanley as well, is he? A Hanley every time that he swung, his helmet would fall off.

And a Bartolo, and a Bartolo swing. But he'd catch it. Yeah. Well, I think Nunez just wore the wrong side. He had a smaller head than Jake, I think. Yeah. Well, he just couldn't stand up.

Period. You know what they say? Small heads equal small brain. Something like that. Something like that. Yeah. Both of them. What are we talking about?

I don't know. I had a question and I forget now. What do you, what do you guys go to my? Oh, I remember my question. Okay. It's probably better than mine, dude. Yeah. We were talking, you want it?

No, it probably is. We were talking new rules. Plouf was on with us and we were saying, Plouf also saw the picture of Jake with a shirt off. I saw that. John Boy Media now and he was like yeah Trevor was shook No he texted us

He was like Did you get him? No I didn't get him Fuck Yes But I kind of want it though because I want to wake it Close your eyes Close your eyes and count to five

That's gonna come on two And I know I'm dumbed Allison Again I'm so so happy I want to just Can I do it? Can I do it myself? All right

He's gonna get me a little bit Do you want a little bit? Got it Great. Yeah, that's good. Timothy iceberg. Producer Bill? So Ploof, not a fan of Jake shirtless, but Plouf.

Yeah, there you go. You got to get that squeezing there. Trevor, again, was so modest to tell us that he was known as the hot wife guy in baseball. Again, I just thank him for opening up on that. Plouf, we were talking new rules. Producer Bill just got it. It's good stuff. We're talking new rules with Plouf, and I was shocked to see how.

how in he was on this, but mercy rule. And we were saying that it can be exciting. So I want to get your guys' opinion on this. Because right away, I'm like, nah, that sucks. You have to finish games. But if after the seventh inning, there's like a 10 run rule, it would create excitement if like you're up eight, nothing and two runs ends the game.

And now you get walk-offs and blowout. And if you're losing, you're not going to be that mad. You're like, we're fucking losing anyway. And if you're winning, you leave super happy because you got basically see a walkoff. It has to be after the seventh, a certain amount of runs. And then if you're the winning team or the losing team and it happens, you offer like a discounted ticket later to kind of like say, hey, you get more earnings. Sure. The next, yeah, like the next game or the next ticket that you purchase to a game. Yeah. 20% off. 20% off. So what do you guys think? I would say that like those

garbage time innings are still useful for the team that's getting their ass whooped. Well, there's no, there's no doubt about that. And the first thing that I always think about, the reason I always, balk or take pauses because you have to think about the way that the record books will be affected or how that's going to be viewed. And maybe that's selfish because I'm a purest at heart. And I love that. That's a good spin on it. And the records have always meant something for a reason because we've always been playing. We've always played this game within a certain parameter. Right. And so we've got to feel for why 60 homers was ridiculous, why 61 was outstanding, why 70 and 73 were what they were. And you understand why that means what it

means. And the numbers, the records reflect those still to this day, right? Yeah, but you can have a fucking eight inning pitch complete game shut out if it starts rain or a six inning. So it still goes in the book. So there are some weird things. Yeah. And there's there's differentiation to that though, right? Like that is acknowledged by a, like there's a statistical acknowledgement. Seven innings. Yes, this is a no hitter, but it was rain shortened. Yeah. So that's the first place I always start. But from there, like let's say all things being equal, everybody's totally cool with how that. that rolls. I love that idea. Yeah. I mean, so many position players are pitching now because

they don't want to kill their bullpen. And, and, and they set a record in 2019. Yeah. I think it's going to be it. It'll break to break next year. I think it's just like, and we're getting it in tie games. And think about, I think about the way, like, think about how you feel as a position player that is maybe two or three times in a season, been the guy that's tabbed for that duty. Like, like it or not, however you want to view it, ultimately the decision has been made because you are the most expendable. Yeah. Mike Ford, you're coming out for a second inning.

Unless you're Russell Martin and you just got 0.0. Powell probably logged more innings than Dylan Batances last year. I don't know if that's true. Russell wants. I think, no. Delon pitched one inning. Yeah. Well, so there you go.

But, yeah, Russell Martin pitched four. Yeah. There you go. Yeah. But Delon's a sad case. So say sorry a little bit. Sorry. Yeah.

Okay. Thank you. I've already petitioned for Dillon Patensis in Boston. Well, then you will learn that he hits people all the time. He's pretty wild. Yeah, that's true. That was our first little back and forth on Twitter in 2017. He tweeted.

You got you? No, me and you. You had no idea who I was. Oh. Oh. Yes, I do recall. That was. The Tigers bra.

Yes. Yeah. Delon couldn't hit someone in the head on purpose if you tried. Yeah. What do you guys? Like, what's my thing I push is I want every team to play every team. I know you mentioned pure. a little bit. I know he was against that. He's coming around. I like it for marketing reasons.

Like, pool host went back to St. Louis for the first time in eight years this year. Right. And like, I don't know, the Yankees, I'm in Denver. I'm moving in a little bit, but I think Judge, I don't think he played the last time he was there. Like, if you were a Yankees fan in Denver, you couldn't see Aaron Judge play live in like a six-year time period or something like that. So I don't know. There's some pure stuff there. And part of the reason I brought up, we we all kind of broed out at the Eastern event, which was a good time. And when we started talking sports media stuff, dude, you were so focused and driven. I was like, not booked by its cover stuff, but like, you went in.

Like you were baseball media. You had your ideas locked up. So I don't know. On just kind of the game, we obviously all have our thoughts on what the game needs to do to grow it the right way. And I think what we're doing on our podcast is part of that. But I walk up so long. What do you guys get passionate about about doing in WWE interests as count? But like, what do you got?

Like just outside of what we do? Yeah, I mean, just any of it. Like, I mean, Commissioner for a Day type stuff. You know, it's funny. I think the biggest thing that baseball can continue to do is allow the fans to show themselves. And that means the people that want to, again, we had this conversation that people want to post things that they want to post, the people that want to just continue to drive. And that's how you have to look at it, is it's somebody driving traffic to your brand.

So if you are in the commissioner's office and you're okay with the money that you're making right now, and you're okay with the money that the sport is bringing in right now, at some point in time, you have to step back and say, you know what, could we allow some free labor? Are we about that? I feel like we've got some friends in that NCAA office and they're okay with the whole free labor thing. And I feel like we've got a pretty good idea of how we've handled the minor league situation. and that'll pay scale thing since we started that. So I think we're okay with free labor.

Why are we not okay with the people who are paying for subscriptions on their MLB TV packages and still bitching and complaining because they've got blackouts that they're dealing with for whatever reason I can't tell you? So we're still not giving them all of the product that they're paying for and we're still not going to let them promote the game to their furthest extent possible. So like if you say that out loud and stop this podcast and rewind everything I just said, you're going to go,

what the fuck are they doing? And that's, that's the question I have every single day, is if you have a fan base that loves and is passionate about their game, you are actively swinging and missing by keeping these people at bay from promoting your game. Yeah, it's pretty smart. I think step one is explaining to the guys at Major League Baseball, like what the internet is.

They still need like a, what is this? It's a conveyor belt, though. Like, I feel like some of the really out of touch people, are being phased out to now like the somewhat. Yeah, well, YouTube like changed it in 2017. Like I know that there's a heart. Like all my videos would have been, and you know this because it was happening to you would have been like I would have

been kicked off YouTube kicked off Twitter. So when I started in 17, they reached out and they're like, hey, we're not going to like suspend you or ban you like keep making the videos. But if our algorithm picks it up, we take the money. And I was like,

all right. They're like, well, some will slip through the cracks. So do it. And that was the best advice. I ever got because some slipped through the cracks. Now we have a real company and all that stuff.

And it's like, cool. They say anything about Twitter? Yeah, they said the same thing. So, like, if there's no, there's no longer a threat of, like, losing your Twitter account, if you post them all you. Well, here's the dirty secret. They don't want people to know this. They want people to think they're still the Gestapo. Yeah.

So, like, I'm, I'm now, like, going against their wishes because they're like, hey, you're cool. But, like, don't let everyone know you're allowed to do this. But they, uh, they just are dumb. So thanks for being nice to me. So ridiculous because, like, again, we were trying to make like a business, lifestyle, whatever out of this. And like the, there's like, there was a doomsday six months where it's like if his Twitter gets down, like, I don't know, he's going to hop on mine. And it's like Brucey coming in in the replacements movies. Yeah.

It ain't going to look good. I mean, think about the environment we are physically in right now and how the physical setup occurs. Who's paid the most is given and granted the most access, the first act. access and at times the only access, right? So, so the almighty dollar becomes proprietary. We know that. However you're going to, whatever power position you're in, if your dollar's greener, then you get that access. So with that being understood, allowing people, what they don't want is, and this is what I have felt and I have acknowledged I have seen, they don't want the big news, the big movement, that big splash, to come from an area that they can't make a dollar on or they,

They can't, like, if they can't run their ad right before this news comes out on their platform. Yeah. Why have they spent the money they've spent to set up their stage at the, at the funnel, right? Like literally a bottleneck. You know what I mean? Like, and, and that's, that's how things are set up. Yeah. Like, you could tell me right now that you can post MLV, MLB videos on Twitter and you can't get in trouble for it,

and I still wouldn't do it because I'm so gun shy after. Yeah. You've been institutionalized. Yeah, like the, like I, like, I. My MySpace page was taken down. Badass. And that's all I had. It was like 150,000 people on it.

Why don't you make that your Twitter bio? M-LB stole my MySpace page. And there is nothing worse than like logging into an account that you've like built up to this big platform. And then it's like, hey, you can't like, nope, sorry. This account actually doesn't exist anymore. Like that's the worst fucking feel. Like if that ever happened to my Twitter, I don't know what I would do. Yeah.

I don't know what I do. I wouldn't have anything. I guess I would just fucking. I wouldn't have anything. I see, I would be looking for a new co-host. Like, can anybody?

Yeah. This guy's got no value to me. Yeah. He's no value to himself, clearly. I'd be fucking lost trying to help him. I mean, in this job,

yes. Like your social media accounts are currency. And if you don't have, I mean, if I had 850 followers, then it's like, all right, well,

what the fuck? Like, why are we even do business with this guy? Yeah. And here's why I say, like, they need the internet explain to them,

especially YouTube, because they don't understand that. So, like, their algorithm claims are the videos we make, which are fair use. We're, like, talking with lawyers and they're like, those shouldn't get claimed. Like, you're talking over them. You edit them up.

It's completely different than the broadcast. I'm like, okay, cool, let's do that then. But don't charge me a lot. But what MLB doesn't get is when they claim the videos, since YouTube isn't going to, like, get that as much money as if they're unclaimed, YouTube doesn't give the notification to anyone that has notifications on for our YouTube channel. They don't get featured on like the featured page or like the for you page.

And that's literally how you grow interest. So every time they claim it, they get all the money, but they're getting less money than they can. So just partner with us, that, M.O.B. There's my pitch. Done. Take the same amount of money, but don't claim it. And we'll just have a deal.

And then my lawyer's going to say, you shouldn't have that. 50-50. Hi, I'm his lawyer. Right. Yeah, exactly. It's going. You can reach me at Dallas Bridge. Yeah.

They're so, like, unreachable, too. Like, I feel like we, uh, there were, there were some meetings with them, that took place and we tried to, like, explain this concept to them. And it's just,

I mean, they were just blank stairs. Yeah. It's, it's tough. And I think, but I, I think what eventually will happen.

And I can, I can speak from this, uh, just understanding what guys are willing to do, want to do, interested in doing with a, quote unquote, mainstream.

media outlet as opposed to an outlet like Johnboy Media, an outlet like, an outlet like Barstool Sports, where they know, like, there's already a degree of I can be myself that doesn't necessarily open itself up or lend itself to the more buttoned up approach and questions that you're going to get. Because the questions alone kind of force the athlete into a direction, right? Yeah. And you guys are the same. I know like Barstle gets a bad rap because of some stuff from the past, but it's not you two. Right. And you guys aren't trying to go out and ruin any MLB player or coach or anyone in the game's like career or make them look bad.

And the same with us. We're like, we're never going to like work for you because you can then limit us. And we don't want to say anything bad, but you're not going to be able to limit us. And you guys are the same way. But they're just scared like, if we can't control what they say. One. They might say bad things. Yeah.

And that's why. That's why I think like we've been able to kind of. just the proof is in the pudding kind of approach. Like, you know, every opportunity that I think we've been given or every opportunity, frankly, in my opinion, that we've earned. And like, not to get sentimental, but I hope you guys take stock of this. Like, keep those placards from this winter meeting. You know what I mean?

And looking down and seeing that it says. Last winter meeting, I kept the soap bottle in the bathroom. My girlfriend's like, I don't want this in that apartment. I'm like, it's my first winter meetings. And I stole this from the bathroom. She's put it somewhere. Right. But just like, it's literally.

Just knowing what it means to barstool for us. And not to up the ante from Jimmy's soap thing, but, dude, you on the duck boats? Like, that's fucking, like, and we're so friendly with, we're old, old media, that sounds rude. But like traditional media, they've been, 99% of the people have been awesome to us. Yes Network, I'd say 100%. Oh, yes network. I mean, I'm everyone, everyone. I mean, there's like a half an outlier.

Everyone's been really nice. So that's why there's so many people that still, like, that get it and understand what we're saying. They just don't have the power to do it. And then, like, even, we're here. We're here because someone within MLB understands and they've worked with us and they've got us here. So there are, like, some of them. So I don't want to, like, completely shit on everyone. Like, how many people have told you, like, they were, like, proud of you and stuff?

Like, you ended up on the duck boat. And, like, that's like, and they love to see you up there having a beer. And, like, that's a good thing. And that's the difference between traditional me. now and stuff, and I get that. Like, you know, Brian Hoke, who we love, who covers the Yankees, like, he can't be yammed on the parade next year, which we can talk about. But, like, we could.

And, like, people would love that shit. Yeah. So it kind of started with Dallas in 2018. We went out the first, it was like an April series where the Red Sox got no hit. It's okay. Shawman I. I was there. I was there.

I cursed him. Did you? Yeah. I posted a video in a suite and I said, I cursed the Red Soxed. sucks today. And then they got no hit and people were like, that was like, that was fucking awesome. Yeah. Because then I was like, great. I did it. Because you guys were like 17 and 2. Yes. Yeah.

Yeah, they started off pretty good that year. And that was like, I mean. Not a bad ending either. It was pretty decent. I know that the first hit has to be a sure thing, but like that first it didn't get any that day. I mean, the last out was Hanley and it was the hardest hit ball of the game. It was like 160 off the bat. Yeah. Something crazy like that. Good location though on the pitch. Yeah. Put it right there. Yeah, but teams. Teams. Teams. Teams.

in Major League Baseball, they kind of all have their own set of rules in terms of like... Diamondbacks follow me. And they like asked me for a breakdown. Yeah. I mean, it's, it's literally, you know, every team operates differently. And that's what you'll find out. Yeah. And the Red Sox were like, now we don't credential bloggers. I was like, okay. I mean, what's that even mean. That's what I'm like, I don't write ever. Yeah. Yeah. Well, that's and then like I get the same thing because obviously we're partners. And so people just automatically think like, oh, so you're a blogger. I'm like, No, who didn't know? Yeah, what is the blog?

I don't fucking know with that. We're Yankees bloggers, but I don't write. Right. I'm illiterate. It was born bloody and illiterate. I mean, it happens. I can't read that well. Thank you for laughing at that.

But the whole thing about, like, different teams that operate that way, it's like, it's weird how there's not a universal blanket in terms of how teams perceive, like, who can get in, who can't get in. It's probably good for us because I think the teams that let us in are the rarer breed, right? For sure. Or are we just Yankees? the Yankees are so. The Yankees won't let us in ever. They're all high and mighty. We're working on.

Like Cashman likes me. Yeah. I mentioned my name on the radio today publicly. And people were shocked and it was like, but I know that because I know he listens because he told me but that was all private. And I'm not going to be like, gosh,

he listens. But then he said it publicly. And then the PR guy's like, yeah, but you understand what we can't let you do stuff. And I'm like, no, I don't. I genuinely don't understand. Genuinely don't get it.

It's because, I mean, it's all about controlling the narrative. It's all about. Exactly. And if there's one group that is affecting the potential, like the outlook or the perception of an entire organization because now, like, oh my God, this organization does business with is in bed with. And it's like, no, they just have an idea of how they want to allow their product to continue to expand and how they want to reach their fans. Yeah. It's not a negative thing. Yeah. Let's go. I'm going to take another fake break for us. And then we're going to talk actual baseball. Oh, okay.

Like teams and players and shit. I love that. A quick hitter. All right. Cole going to the Yankees, Jared? Yeah, I've already accepted it. It's 100% guarantee. There's a 0% chance he sounds anywhere else.

How much percent of that is you psyching yourself out? Hoping Billy Epler hangs it out. He's doing the same thing when up until two weeks ago, I was like 0% chance call comes here. Like get ready for it, just prepare for it. And you're doing the same exact thing. No, he's going. No, but, you know, we talk to a lot of people and we talk to Pass and we talked to Rosenthaw. we talked to some other people within the Yankees.

They were all so cocky yesterday. They're so confident. Like, it's going to get announced today or tomorrow. And then today, complete opposite vibe. I feel like there was more action yesterday. The Angels made that trade to free up $12 million, which is. To get David Price, yeah. I don't know.

So, like, now it's like, oh, like we were talking to them. They were like, I don't know, that more money took coal and stuff. But I don't know. I feel like it's just, I've already accepted he's going to the Yankees. Because the Yankees right now, they need him. Yes, they're in a position now where if they get Garik Cole, there is not a team in Major League Baseball that should be able to stop them. I mean, you still have to play the games.

You still have to see what happens. But if you go and get Garikol right now, what team on paper can stop the Yankees? The part that I brainwash myself, but the part that's not helping me was I did this Yankees thing last year. I was like, how often do free agents like Machado and Harper hit free agency? The Yankees have to hit one of them. You didn't talk like that.

I looked like a cockback. still do. But no, I think, like, the Garrett Cole thing, like you're saying, I mean, not only is, I mean, Garrett Cole is the number one is the number one right now in baseball, but like, dude, Savvy Tanaka and Paxon has a two, three, four? Like, that's silly. And that's, we haven't even talked about the freaking lineup that the twins nudged out by one homer. But it just makes, the whole on the team on the Yankees' internet right now is first base.

We're like, boy, it's been a stud. Ford knocked it around. Like you, we could figure it out. And we had a chance to be an all-star this year. Yeah, should have been. Should have been. I pose this question to Jared. And I said, I said, out of, because out of, out of some of the teams that are involved in these talks, I've said,

are there any teams that you think could benefit more from landing a, or even just attacking a Rendon slash JD slash Ryu combination? Mad bum combination. So bring in one of those two lefties, bring in one of those two hot corners and try to go after both of those as opposed to just trying to shore up a Garrett Cole, which other teams are in that position. And it feels like the Yankees, to Jared's point

that we were talking about, are the only club that are just like, ah, Garrett Cole. That's all. The angels actually should, like it might benefit them, and Angels fans are you mad at it. It might benefit them to miss out on call

and then use that money. Get three guys. Split it in half and get Ryu and bum. Who's their second best player? And I've said this, and I've said this. Otani. Yeah, Otani. Okay, third best, because I did leave out Shoah.

Right. Upton? Yeah, he's quietly good. He had a rough last year last year. Yeah. I mean, Tommy Lestella's up there and like, don't get me wrong. Nice dude. Good Pizons.

Big war guy. Yeah, Simba, David Fletcher. I love David Fletcher's game. I love David Fletcher. I love David Fletcher. Yeah, we're talking about it. Nice. Look at his numbers.

Look at his ball play. He's a nice ball player. What's the body of work? If David Fletcher's hit in 240 next year, are we shocked? That ain't happening. No, no. Yeah, I am.

Okay. Because he ain't hit in two four. Then I'll give him some love. You're an AOS guy. Yeah, well, and so that's part of why I have. It's kind of why I brought that conversation up because not only did I, did I play in the AOLS. That's the only place I have, but that's what I pay attention to closely.

So I've seen the angel's struggles for quite some time. Yeah. And it's almost. selfish in me wanting the Angel fan base to be able to kind of turn the page and put an era of just horrendous

luck, timing, just like, can we put that in the fucking rear view and get back to Halo baseball? Because I, like, I feel like that could really help the game as well. People always want to talk about the Yankees and the Red Sox and how good is it for them to be really good? Or how good is it for baseball for them? It's fucking great.

It's great. There's no denying that it's great. But I also think that when you start to get some powerhouses and some strength going, especially in the day of social media out here on the West Coast, that helps a lot too. My kid's going to go on baseball reference and say, yeah, I'll be dead. He's going to say, hey, or she, she'll be in a baseball reference too. Trout and Pujol's were on the same team for a decade and didn't get to the playoffs? Your daughter's going to hate baseball despite you, just so literally.

Yeah, I get that. Yeah, that's obvious. Hey, Dallas, I have a contentious conversation to have a contentious conversation to have you. I don't know if you're allowed to have this. It's because it's about the A's. I lived in the Bay Area for seven years or so. Sure. A lot of my good friends are A's fans. And I feel like I hate, I don't hate, I say that word loosely. I, like, get mad at the A's because I feel like I'm protecting my A's fans friends because I think the organization treats their fans so rudely. And I think now

that they're the only team left in Oakland, they're going to be a little better. But they They can spend money and they're not a poor franchise. They can. They just have told this narrative, we're a small market team. We can't spend money. And the fans buy into it. I'm like, you know you're being lied to. You have one of the richest owners.

You, this is not like, don't just fall for this. Like, oh, you know, well, we trade our guys. And it's like you're, it's just, you're being fed bullshit. You guys can. You have the fans. The Bay Area. sports fans are real. They're like they're big. And when they have playoff games, it's loud there and it's fun. And like someone, baseball, Brit was like, that was my favorite place because it felt like,

you know, Dominican baseball. It's like vibrant. Yes. So I get mad when like the A's are like, well, my friends are like, we're a small market. I'm like, you're not. Wake up. Well, it's, I think there's a difference between being a small market and then having an ownership with money. I think those are two very different things. The market and your ability to drum up the attention and, who's listening to, who's watching, who's clicking on. That body, that demo, that is not as great as you might think it is when you say the word Bay Area. It's just not a New York. It's not a Boston. It's not one of those types of markets. It's just, it's not. That being said, I think what you have to look at is, and Oakland

falls into this category, but Oakland's not the only club. If the ownership is making money, running their business, the way they are, regardless of it being, baseball or a Tiddly Winks production company, if you're making money and you're just not pleasing everybody, but the cash flow is what it is, you're okay with it. One thing I always bring up to people is the revenue share, right? Yeah, yeah.

Oakland Aides were on that list. Oakland Aids are now off that list. That's going away. They're not going to have that. So it's just another push in the shit or get off the pot direction. That Major League Baseball is kind of forcing some of these smaller market teams into, you have to show your fans and the game that the money that we're giving back to you is going towards the product. Yeah. The ownership and the new regime for Oakland, I'll say this,

has done that much because if you've been to the game, which the baseball Brit has, he saw the tree house firsthand. He's seen some of these new amenities that have popped up. I mean, the ticket offering the whole, the whole food carts and shit. That's pretty cool. It's awesome. And the whole, like, season tickets for an Oakland A's fan no longer exists. You want to come to the ballpark? We've got a plan for you that can give you full access to each and every home game that is under $50. And if you and the family want to go, we'll throw some names on your pass list. For $100, they get everything that you get to, like they own the fucking path, like they own the pass list.

So that's actually a case study in the Ivy League right now. people are like really focused on how the A's have been able to really flip the whole season ticket thing on its head. So they've done a great job this new regime. And I'll say this much for the fans that are going to listen to Oakland A's fans. Right now, the A's are as far along in the process of giving their fans a new ballpark a much deserved than they have ever been. And you heard ownership talk about it last year at Fan Fest. You heard the front office talk about it at Fan Fest. They're tired of not being able to retain and slash acquire.

talent to continue to try to get the organization back to prominence. They're tired of it. Well, what I always say is that any given night, any baseball stadium, like when the Yankees sell out, when Fenway sends sells out, 50% of those fans are casual fans. Oh, yes. You need the tourist who's like, this is a site and no one goes to Oakland and looks up like top places for tourists. Like, let's go to the Coliseum.

It's only diehardt's that go because it plays the shit hole. And they used to throw toilet paper off the third deck, like every inning. They run into the bathroom. Steal a roll of toilet paper. Run up to the third deck, which is closed off so they can fake sell out and then just throw it. And I was like, this is the Coliseum.

It's its own character. And you can ask a lot of players, though. That's a place you do not want to be in October. It's loud. Full drums banging. That is just not a place. Raised it pretty well. Yeah, one game series.

I mean, they didn't even have like a, the crowd didn't even have a chance to get into that. Really didn't. Truly didn't. That was unfortunate. It really was. It was really a, It was hard to watch.

I've said that if they get that new stadium, like when they were saying East Jekyll and Square, I was like, oh, yeah, fucking do that. You'll have the casual fans. You'll pack it up. People will get into it. It'll be a place to go in Oakland, which will bring in more money.

And the Warriors and the Raiders leaving helps the Oakland A's so much. Dude. But do that. I was like, they'll be good. If they do that and they just like extend some people and like actually fix the hot dogs, they can be good. And that place is growing downtown, the place that the ballpark is probably going to be.

be dropped in and my wife and I have a place there. That's where I live during the season. It's grown. It's fucking incredible. And you can, the, the energy and the excitement about it is palpable. That's what's really cool is for the first time in a long time. I think everybody in that city or around the city has their ear to the street for one reason or another thinking about this ballpark and where's this thing going. Are you living there full time? I thought you were down here. No, I am. Yeah. I'm here full time. We've got a place up there for when the season starts. I was living more pleasant and familiar. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. For sure. Stockton. Familiar?

Stockton. I can learn about it. No, you don't want to learn about it. My sister went to Pacific. Oh, there you go. I can throw baseball to the UOP. Force. Yeah, for sure.

Swear? Yeah, absolutely. Okay. You can throw a baseball UOP? Yeah, from my house. Yeah. We gave him a little A's form. And he let him into it.

Yeah, sure. Well, I have a question. I'll lead you into this. Okay. And this is a genuine question. I want your genuine answer. Sure. Will the Red Sox,

are they trying to rebuild? or are they trying to be competitive next year? Both. Which is impossible. It was. That's like the Seattle miners tried to do that for five years and didn't work. Yeah. They're trying to shed payroll.

And I think that the most likely outcome will be trading David Price. But then you have no rotation. Yeah. No, that's a problem. I mean, they say you need seven going into a season. You guys have two. It's going to be interesting to see how they intend to divvy up those innings because Price, when he's healthy, is one of the best.

biggest innings eaters in the game. Yeah. But I don't think they're going to trade mokey. They can't. They can't. They're not going to get a package for mokey. It's not even that. Like, so obviously the logic is fair.

If that happens, is it fair to say that that's going to tell you what direction they're going. You're putting to see. If you trade mokey bets, you're punting on 20. It's that simple for me. I think price is 80% punt. No. It's a.

Yeah. Yeah. It is. No, it's not. I don't think like it because shedding the payroll is to probably set you up for some future moves and it's to stay under that net. I mean, they just, it's, if you go over for X amount of years, the penalties keep getting stiffer and stiff.

I think if you trade David Price, you're not punting on 2020. If you trade mooky bets, you're punting on 2020 because you can't, I mean, you can get a starting pitcher. You might have to split it up between three different guys, but you can get like a mid three ERA. But isn't that quite the shift? You still have Chris. There's like 15 of those guys.

You still have Chris Sale. You still have Eduardo Rodriguez. is Nathan Avaldi, I mean, it is what it is with that guy. Yeah. I mean, you're putting yourself at a disadvantage if you trade David Price. Yeah. But you cannot make up the production of one mookie bets. Yeah.

You can't. If they trade mokey, will you secretly be like, fucking JD? No, I don't. I know the answer to that. I know the answer to that. There's someone smiling. Yeah. I think.

I'm going to say who. They won't trade mokey bets. And I know that there's, there's logic behind it by saying, you know, it's one year. the team is going to have to pick up the tab for $28 million. You're going to have to give up prospects and maybe a major league ready player. That's a lot to give up for one year of a guy that you're still going to have to pay full price for

and then probably not even re-sign. He's not going to sign an extension. So you're going to have to take your chances in free agency just like everybody else. The reason why I don't think they're going to trade moogie bets is because Heim Bloom can't come in here first year and get hated right away. And have that be his first move.

You can't do that. Is that a similar? Is that a similar trend? Is that a similar trend that we see? Because look, Farhan, Farhan Zaydi in San Francisco. Yeah, he was like, I got a trade. I've got to get rid of a bummerer. But it can't have in year one. I don't know if I can do it.

The Giants are the most loyal organization. Didn't Charington dump all the guys to the Dodgers? Yeah, but everyone was like, get the fuck out of here. No one is saying that. Yeah, it's not Moogie does. Yeah. Moogie bet like that's why I think it's... Those were bad signings.

Mookie's a good player. Yeah. By the way, Adrian Gonzalez got a bad rap in Boston. He was actually very good. They needed to include Gonzalez to get rid of the postgame pressers. I still have a little bit of like an angry 14 year old to me when people say that shit. Yeah, you can't, first of all, rule number one, don't blame the schedule. Second, don't hide behind religion.

You can't be like, God wanted us to lose that series. No, he just don't. No, God's not watching baseball. I might start working that in. Yeah, no, he's definitely not watching baseball. That's a good. The schedule stuff was so weak. Like, dude, you came to a big market.

Yes. And you chose to come there. Yeah, that was a week. I haven't liked them since then. That's like my one bugaboo. Like I don't really like hate any players. But when they like complain in the post game

or just say like, guess God what God didn't want me to do? It wasn't God's plan. I think he also he denounced the world baseball classic because of some, I forget like Team Mexico, there was some sort of like,

they didn't want them. No, I think it was like there was some sort of like shenanigans finish in a game and he was like, I'm never playing in the world baseball classic again. Like, dude, you have the chance to represent your country. You're like, shut the fuck up and play.

That's fun. Fine, but like, no one he really cares about it. Yeah. If I, I don't think that we would have gotten along in the same clubhouse. I don't think we would have been. The fact that that goes through your mind, if I was in this clubhouse, would I be friends with us. I get that. If we were teammates, I don't think we would have seen an eye to eye.

I get that. What do you boys want to talk about? What's on your mind? Do you want to get it? The moon landing was fake? The moon landing? Yeah. I think it's the one thing where, where I don't hate, I don't like conspiracy theories.

And it's the one where I'm like, I'm kind of interesting. in that. If someone like knew some like like if I was talking like you know crazy conspiracy theorist comes up to you and they're like they've dedicated their life like aliens and shit anyone comes up to be aliens I'm like dude I don't fucking care like you're crazy someone's like I started the moon landing and want to know what I know I'd be like yeah let me I'm interested in this one yeah it's kind of crazy I guess you know why gets me why a fucking live stream barstool can't figure out their live streams sure every fucking week we don't we don't do live streams that often because like the technology fails and I'm like fuck this

and people were like, what are you doing? I'm like, it was hard. The moon landing in 1960 had a live stream. Yeah. From the moon. Without, without the technology we have today. Yes.

So I, I shouldn't have opened that up, man. There's a lot. I mean, there's, there's, I can see it from both sides because I still hold back on my thoughts on all that because that's just like, once I think I boil,

once I pull the top off that, I become. You're a lunatic. Your personality. Your personality matches your beard. If you're, if you're a moon truther on Twitter, a lot of people get fired up about that.

Yeah, I won't say I don't think it was fake. I'm just thinking it's open to discussion. I'm not sure. Got to ask questions. Not to ask questions. Yeah, because I think someone said the amount of money that it would have cost to fake it would cost more than to actually go. And then the amount of people that would have had to have known about it and kept quiet about it. This whole time is over like 100,000 people or something like that.

Oh, yeah, because what governments are what, afraid to just off people who know too much? Here we go. That's true. Yeah, that's a weird thing. Well, who do you think was the bigger? Shut the camera. Who do you think was the bigger? Who's the bigger Patsy?

Lee Harvey Oswald or Jack Ruby? I mean, Lee Harvey Oswald was a Patsy. Yeah, but Jack Ruby's the bigger Patsy. Because Jake, do you know Jack Ruby is? Guys. There you go. That's why he's a bigger Patsy.

I don't even remembered. Did he play second? Jack Ruby. I actually. MVP 05, the best baseball game ever created PS2. We created a player called Jack Ruby. He was like fucking like 6-4-275. I think that's in bad taste.

I don't think so. You could be a hero. No, he's just a murderer. The best case. Have you guys seen, I assured this when I found out that he was into the conspiracy theories. Have you guys seen movies zeitgeist? Oh. No, I haven't.

Sorry. You guys want to talk about it? We can take a break from our own show. You guys can just run it. If you're religious, don't check it out. Oh, I'm not. Or maybe do. Yeah.

It's just, it's one of those things, not even just religion-based, but everything like you got questions this is going to this is going to probably compile onto that it's going to it's a real eye opener yeah weed gummy 1 a m kind of guy yeah yeah yeah you're gonna you're gonna you're gonna walk down to the lobby and start looking at people in the eye going you have you have no fucking clue yeah do you have no idea i do that anyway you have no idea should have like a zeitgeist watch along tonight oh jordan jordan gambling suspension is the other easiest conspiracy. Oh, that's just 100% true.

Yeah. Yeah. Why would that? Well, I mean, is that really even a conspiracy, I think, when you have quite a few, I mean, there's quite a few people that I feel like have confirmed that behind closing. Well, he was good at baseball. Yeah. He's all right.

There's bad Jake. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's right. And he's the best basketball player ever. That's the other detail for me. That chrips me up. That Jordan was the best. Oh, yeah.

You know what? Best and worst interview you guys have gotten. What was it? Bob Montgomery. That was the author? No. Player. No.

This is Jerry. What was my? Tewkesbury. Bob Tewksbury. The author? Yes. Oh my God. Yeah.

Why did you guys say yes? We get so many people that write books. I don't even tell Jake. They email me like every day like, hey, we got this book. You want to talk to the author? And I'm like, no. Yeah. No, this guy.

Well, I mean, not this guy. I know Bob Tewsperry. but Jared, like Jared was, you know, Jared's talking to him, kind of leading him into the interview. And we've been talking to him for like four minutes. It felt like, like not long at all. And he was just like, hey, uh, so we're going to get into this book or what?

Yeah. Let's talk about the book. Enough, enough, enough about this. Let's talk about the book. And I was like, I didn't fucking read the book, dude. Yeah. Like your people reached out to us. And I could see Jared's face and I was like, oh.

You just open up to page 75 and you read five pages. and then you just talk to them about those five pages. Yeah, well, we didn't even have the book. Yeah, we didn't have the book. We didn't have anything. It's even better. Yeah. I'm the positive spin guy, negative Nancy over here.

What, um, each of your dream interview, we could do debt or alive shit. I don't care. Bonds. Yeah. Bonds. Give me, give me an hour with bonds. It's very easy.

And it wouldn't be enough. You can get bonds. Just pay him. Yeah. I was, he has a rate. Yeah, it's very, it's not a lot.

I was in film school in San Francisco and I was making this commercial for this company. And we were really close to having him come be the sponsor because maybe he gave up. This was back in 2016. He was really trying to change his image. So his agent was out there trying to get him anything. And it was like a fucking film school commercial for Benjamin. Shout up Benjamin.

Go use it. And we were really close to having Barry Bonds come in and read the lines that I wrote. And I was going to film and direct and edit a Barry Bonds commercial. And I was very happy when it didn't. they were like, yeah, we just missed and stuff like that. But yeah, I don't know if he's still trying to do that. He may have given up because I haven't seen him out and about. Yeah.

But his price was paying for a long time. What would be your lead? Like what? I don't even know where I'd go with it. I would just go into it blind and see where it goes. But if you go to his Instagram page, you'll see that for three years now, I comment on every single one of his pictures and say, you the man, Barry. Appreciate that.

It's cool. It's cool. What about you? It would probably be. George Herman Ruth. Yeah, he's pretty good. Yeah. Just, I mean, you were, you were the center of the baseball universe.

You know, he used to, of everything. He used to pee on his teammates' backs. Of everything. Pea on my back. I don't care. When they were showering, you know, the shampoo trick, he would do that, but he would just stand behind him and piss on him. Yeah, you're George Herman.

I'm into it. You can pee all over me. There's some good stories. We have a history podcast. We've done two episodes now just on Babe Ruth. And it's like really good shit when you start reading books about it. him. He's amazing. Like he's a relief pitcher for five years walked up to him and was like, hey, hey, hey, babe,

I'm blah, blah, blah. And he was like, oh, good, welcome to the team. We've been on the team forever. He was adopted by the Orioles owner to play or something. Do you know that? Well, from out of St. Mary's. The orphanage. Yeah, the St. Mary's Orphanage. Yeah.

To sign him, you have to become his dad. Yeah, which trips me up because he's 19 and it's like, it was 19, 15. And it's like, why is this 19-year-old still just in the orphanage? Right. You know, we're in the middle of like, child labor king right and he's just kind of kicking it yeah like do you think he was see like was he kicking the shit out of people and people were just like look i don't do you know this jared he went from playing against the his fellow orphans to the big orio to the big leagues like that

he skipped the minor leagues and then he was like the best pitcher ever at 19 years old when he was 18 he was literally pitching to like 14 year orphans they the or the the priest at the orphanage the priest at the orphanage uh father bob whatever fuck his name was just like message the owner of the Orioles. I got this kid. You got to come check out. And the owner was like, let me see him.

He struck out some 14 year old. She was like signed. They're like, well, you need to be his legal guardian. He's like, okay, he's my son now.

They put him in the bigs and he was the best ever. It's really good scouting, but it's fucking weird. Yeah. See, on starting nine, we always ask our guests,

like the last question is if you go back in time to witness any moment in baseball history, I guess I probably would want to see Babe Ruth, just because like I feel like any footage of him doesn't really,

doesn't highlight what he was. Well, there's that one of his swing and his dick is just fucking huge. Yeah, it's like, I want to see him play and I want to see the competition that he was facing. Like, I want to see what that looks like. Well, that's what makes it all relative. Yeah, but like the footage, whatever footage exists of Babe Ruth isn't like, huh, yeah, no, I can see it.

This is why I get so pissed off when people do not pay the respect to Shoheyotani that he is deserved. I can, like, I don't think people are truly understanding of what they are watching. Yeah. Like, if you could pick out, just give me one. Give me one soul in Major League Baseball right now, not named Otani, that you would be okay with starting opening day and hitting in the three hole of your lineup 400 times a year. Give me one you can't game over.

It's Show Hey, Otani. Well, that guy hasn't existed since, babe. fucking Ruth. But, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, Dallas. That guy hasn't been allowed to exist in America. If Shohei was an American kid. That's false. That's false.

Brenna McKay in the Tampa Bay Race organization. That's what I'm saying. This is late. I'm saying from, from 19, from 1920 until 2018, it hasn't been allowed. I'm sure. Could you hit in high school? No, but I'm sure over that span of time, there were some American baseball players that made it to the bigs doing one thing.

That could have, but it was halted right away. And it took Japan to groom a guy and be like, yeah, we'll allow this. I believe, well, so it took Japan. I don't know if it took Japan grooming a guy. It took, I think Japan being okay with what they were seeing because, again, American baseball, we've always, once you've gotten to that point, like, hold on, no, the money invested in you is such that we can't afford you getting drilled in the elbow while hitting. We can't have that.

So you're just going to pitch. and frankly, you're not somebody that we could run out there 400 times and even be okay with like a $2.250? Like, you're not that guy. This is something I get on a podium, not just because I'm short, but I truly believe, like, we've made these special athletes you've had to pick. And like, speaking of non-special athletes, Trevor Pluth, he was a stud pitcher in high school.

And like, they just said, no. And I was like, be honest. Like, could you have pitching? I could have come in and thrown innings and, like, that's where baseball's going. Like, we just talked about the field players pitching. Like, Trevor Plouffe, like, who knows how, like, differently things could be if he was third base utility.

Oh, yeah, and he could get you two innings to get out of a game. We're joining Sean Boy Media and now he's Babe Ruth and Otney. You know what name that never gets mentioned in this conversation? What, Bethincourt? Brooks Kees-Hick. Bryce Harper. What do you want him do? You could pitch?

No, no, he could. Yes, he could. Yeah, well, I mean, that's the whole. Like, can you get, because here's the thing, Sean Doolittle. Sean Doolittle is a prime example. The only reason he's not somebody's big league first baseman is because he was injury prone. He had knee injuries, wrist injuries, and that kept him from taking 400, 500 plate

appearances. And Ankeel didn't do it at the same time. Right. And so there's guys that have the ability to do that, but to be able to show that you can do it consistently to a point where you can be relied on where people, people that's look the bottom line is talent talks bullshit walks and the talent has been such for Motani that you have been forced to go yep you'll take the ball every five days and yep you can hit third or fourth because you are you are that good and there's no denying that there's just

no denying that and and you like come on man like think about like just seriously think about that think about Walker Bueller think about Walker Bueller hitting 300 for you pop in 30. with 80 plus stakes a year. Walker Bueller. That's right. Andy, go doors. You know what I mean? Like that guy.

That guy exists. He's here. Even, I'll bring it back to the Bay. Because this is damn I'm good. Babe Ruth. I mean, the dude could pitch, but then they saw him hitting home runs and they're like, no, no, no, no, no.

My theory is they saw me in hot dogs. Like, this dude's going to get too fat to pitch. He's not going to get too fat to play right field and hit some bombs. He can out hit. He's out hitting the league. I think we're getting there. Because his dad ran like, or the father of the orphanage,

the ridge ran like that. It wasn't just like, you know, everyone ran weird back in the day. Didn't it the dude from the raise that just got traded? Can't he do both? Chenoworth, some like that? I make up that name.

Yes. Chenoworth? Yeah. He was in the slap dick trade. The slap dick. Is he the slap dick prospect? No, no,

no. No, no. Not the one coming over. Nothing court was a guy, his guy with the Padres, and he has caught, played outfield, pitched. I mean, pinch hit.

Think about Lorenzen. Yeah, Michael Lerns. Michael Lerins, I always see Jared. Michael Lerunzin. IP. Yeah, fucking outfielder. Come in and drop a dick for you. Come in and blow cheese.

But that's what I'm saying. But not on it every day. Well, and I don't want this to be a shot of Michael Lorenzen. No, not at all. Like he can throw. He can hit. It's awesome. And like, again, maybe if he was nurtured through the minor leagues to do this,

maybe he could be a special player. But like, we haven't done this. Like, I feel like he ended up hitting as like a last result. for the Reds and like his couple opportunities swinging the stick shit happened what if they didn't it because i i can speak on that pretty good because it didn't he's crying where's the wine and it works man i don't know we probably have you guys got anything else it's been a while yeah i could we could literally let's turn on that fucking what was the movie you just said uh zeitgeist zeitgeist yeah bill that means the common turn the camera off zeitgeist is the common opinion of the

people during that time period, Jake. Yeah, I know. Take that in. You're going to be questioning some serious shit. Do you guys need to plug starting out? I mean, do you? No, they don't. Find us.

Download, subscribe. Yeah. Starting 9. Watch Dallas on NBC. That's right. Oh, wow. Don't do it. That's nice, man.

Yeah. Jared is Big A's guy. Damn. Yeah. I watched that. That's what I do. That's my life. Was your guys, NL team?

Brewers. Brewers. Doesn't care. Hates the NL. I'm currently. I'm currently shopping around. He's a Pittsburgh Pirates guy. Name the Marlins starting nine.

We did this at the end of an episode with Jake, because he's better at naming players than I because he plays outside, out of the park baseball, and fantasy stuff. I got one. Jake got one. No, I had one. Never mind.

But what? Aguilar and VR. Non-10. Yeah, well, that's what I was good. That was, those were the team. Brian Anderson can play baseball. Is Granderson still on that team? Is he right enough from the sunset?

He's gone. He's gone. Is he retired? The impact. Officially? I think he did. Name an outfield around the marons. Has it been official?

I don't know. Can you send out a notepad? I'm officially retiring thing tonight? Me? Yeah. Did you officially retire yet? Yeah, I've officially retired, though? Oh, no.

Phil Hughes, we asked him like, have you officially retired? He was like, well, I haven't sent the notepad tweet. That would be really good. No, all I did, all I did, I think I said, because like, it came out, you know, after my last surgery or whatever. Because I was close to coming back. I was actually like a week away from auditions from teams coming out. And my fucking shoulder fell off again.

Dallas, does it bother you that people, and by say people, I'm saying me, and then I'm projecting it at everyone else as if they have the same brain as brain as me. And this is a Yankee fan. What I know you for is the perfect game and then the A-Rod incident. And then you're goatee. And I'm like, that guy is probably like a hard ass, like red-ass, angry guy. And you're the complete utter opposite. That depends of the day.

Yeah, yeah, but, but, When you see him. Is that just me? Or do you have a reputation if the A-Rodd thing is being like a guy? Oh, no, like my, yeah, within the club house, everybody, I mean. Yeah, no, I know that. But like I'm saying like public perception, like, did that go too far for you?

Or you're like, I don't want to be known for this. Oh, no, I could give a shit less. Okay. Like it doesn't bother me. I don't care. Like, I'm, I don't want to say, because I think at, at some point in time, everybody, you know, you take in whether you want to or not, what's going on around you.

But, I mean, the minute you start to let. the outside noise affect you. Like you're just, you know you guys would be colleagues at a media company in the future? You don't stand a chance. No, we're not colleagues. Well, we're not colleagues. Oh, okay.

We're not colleagues. I have no problem telling you this. If you were to ask him for an interview and you were to ask me for an interview or if we were to have to come into a room together in interview, there's only one of us that comes in with a piece of paper with a list of questions and shit that we can't talk about. And it ain't me. Did you reach out? I'm not interested at all in what the first.

fuck you got to say. Did you reach out to Michaelis? Yes, I did actually. Did you? You're like, hey man. I feel you. It's your man fraternity. That is our fucking matter. Love every minute. I mean, I loved, I loved him. Yes, I love all of it. I loved every guys got to go eat lizards together now. I'm into it. I want a pair of boots. You're into some weird shit. I was going to stop, but you can't say something like that. Weirdest thing you're into? I don't know. I'm, uh, I don't know. I'm, uh, I'm about to be a beekeeper.

What? That counts. Is that weird? You watch, you watch, do you watch, you watch, you watch,

you watch B videos on YouTube? What do you want to know about bees? No, that's a weird hole I, I went down. I went down, like, B removal.

It's so weird if you're, like, do this weird jobs, like drain removers and B removers, if you're listening to us and you're a drain declogger or a B-Hive remover. Carson Fulmer.

And you don't have a YouTube? A bee guy? No, Carson Fulmer. Remember, he had the, He was the plumber. He was the plumber in the offseason. Yeah, Michael former.

Michael former, sorry, Carson. I get into these weird. I get into these weird YouTube trips. And I'm like, I just watched like a whole channel of like this guy going to houses and removing beehives. I'm like, oh shit, they're probably making more money from the YouTube video than they get paid to remove. And then I watched doing their actual job. I watched drain declogging videos from like government drain declogging. It's cool.

And then I watched. He gets lost in the baseball world. And then like, I remember one day I got it. He's like, dude. You seen these drain-declogging videos? And I was like, no. So you're a secret closet ASMR guy? No.

Don't like, yes. ASMR, no, my girlfriend listens to that fall asleep. Sometimes she listens to like, like, um, like nail salon or something like that. And I was like this. What? What? Nail salon? Or massage.

It's like, it sounds like you're getting a massage. Oh, you're so pretty. How that hell's, how does it? How the hell do you listen to a massage? Okay. Well. What sounds like masturbating? Okay, well.

And she just texted me and was like, hey, I hope the universe was going on. It's like, fuck. Well, guess what we ran into. Talking about falling asleep to your ASMR and panty drawer recording. What? Yeah. Okay. We're going to play it and this will be the outro.

This is a 39 minute video. This is an ad. Shut up ad. Okay. Oh, God. All right. And this is going to be the outro to the show. So say your last words while we listen to this, uh, whatever fuck this is.

This is why I listen to falling asleep a couple nights because my girlfriend, like, falling asleep to ASM. It's weird, huh? Send the retirement now. I'm not in a position to bully anyone ever. Stay tuned. I think that would be the biggest news at winter meetings. Dallas Brayton retired.

If you walked into the bar, I think there'd be like a standing ovation. Hell of a career, Braden. You did it. So proud. You did it. Bernie Williams didn't retire for like 10 years. You have to keep your options open. It's because you can fucking swing the stick, bro.

You can't even hear anything. Oh, God. It's on. Let's all be really quiet. You hear it? Yeah, that's nail filing. This is nail salon? No, it's hair filing.

It's hair salon. Oh, that's nail brushing. You wouldn't know you don't brush your hair. True. All right, thank you. Thank you guys. Thank you. No outro music, guys.

It's the fucking hair salon. That's where we always land. On the hair salon. Oh, thanks, guys. Awesome. No problem, man. I don't know if you're...