Talkin' Baseball (MLB Podcast) - 98 | Cleveland Indians | Profile & Projection
Episode Date: February 29, 2020Cleveland, rocks! Your Indians are up next. Francisco Lindor is still here. What's in store for this club in 2020? We'll dive into it. Let's talk baseball. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit mega...phone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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Today, Jake, we're doing the Cleveland Indians, which makes me think, have we completely
shifted to contenders the rest of the way playoff spot contenders yeah i think i was already kind of
comfortable with that because i i think i have some belief in the diamond backs who we've recently
done and like the angels i mean you know that's that's a team with the best player in baseball
that made a ton of moves this off season i feel like we hit that cleveland's just odd man because
there's so much to like yet with none of the good feelings behind it.
Yeah, it's a weird mix that, like, they have said enjoy Lindor while we have them
because we're not going to be able to afford them.
They didn't really do much.
I mean, they made some trades at the end of the last season to bring people in.
They traded Kluber.
They traded Bauer.
So they got guys in return, and they still have a lot of talent on the roster.
They have a lot of talent on this roster.
Yeah, and I think what we're going to find out is if this Cleveland team is going to be around for another five years,
or if this is the year, things fall apart.
Because they still have a lot of young arms.
They still have some talented players.
We know they're pitching.
They've been a low-key franchise that has bred really good young pitching for a little while now.
and I think part of the secret was that was a guy named Matt Blyke.
Matt Blyke, who left.
He's now in the New York Yankees organization.
So it'll be interesting to see kind of who they handed those keys off to
and what comes next because, I mean, this team has won in the past four years.
They won 94 games, 102 games, 91 games, 93 games last year, but they missed the playoffs.
And before that, didn't they win 103?
102.
102, okay.
102.
So, I mean, over the past four years,
years they've had 91 plus wins every season including a peak of a hundred two which is a special
number like that's not just a good team when they won like 26 in a row right uh something like that
and they uh they lost in the ds three two series uh cluber had his that was his si young season that's
when they lost to the yankees they went up too oh yeah they had a crazy run in august i think um so i mean
this has been a really well run organization it's you know they have analytics
stuff going behind the seams, but they still have Tito out as the manager, and he's one of the
few managers that still gets to pull some strings sometimes. And yeah, I mean, it's, it's, you know,
how much do you believe in Lendor, Jose Ramirez, you know, Carlos Santana, Clevenger?
They still got dudes, man, and there's no reason, I keep saying there's no reason to not believe,
which is a really dumb phrase. I got to get rid of that.
but I mean they have a good lineup they have good pitching they're going to be a winning team
it's just do you think they're an 85 win team or do you think they're a 95 win team
what Jose Ramirez are we getting I mean that's that's got to be one of the bigger questions
it's a miracle that he ended his season with an 800 OPS last year yeah it really is and it's
it's baseball Susan um it's even worse
weirder than that.
Are you going in the game logs or the splits?
Both.
You want me to get there.
No, I have them both.
Okay.
So Jose Ramirez, his first half of the season, he ended with a 652 OPS.
Yeah.
A 308 on base percentage.
Yep.
And a 218 batting average.
Sure.
344's awful.
Yep.
Awful.
Then what?
Second half of the season, he goes home because he didn't make the All-Star break.
Sure.
Rests.
Did he rest?
What do you got?
Do you have a scoop on that?
I got a scoop.
There's a plan.
There's like, yeah.
If he, it's a, it's a little concoction.
Oh.
Yeah.
He comes back full of concoction and he has a 1.105 OPS.
A 327 batting average and a 365 on base percentage.
So first half, batting average, 218.
Second half, batting average, 327.
Better.
First half, on base percentage, 308.
Second half, 365.
Better.
His OPS doubled, Jake.
It was a 600 and then a 1.105.
I know that's not exactly doubled, but you get what.
It's enough where you can say it double.
Yeah, it's enough where you can throw, like, he doubled.
And the reason why I said it's a miracle that he ended with an 800 OPS.
Miragold's.
Is because he got hurt at the end of August.
Right.
Right.
And it was like, oh, shit.
and he had a 788 OPS,
which in the history books would be like
he almost salvaged his season,
but that's a subpar OPS.
He gets healthy,
returns for three games,
does rather well,
hits three home runs in those three games,
and ends with an 806 OPS.
And now it doesn't look like he had a bad season
if you go,
you know,
it's just like,
oh, a little off that year,
were not crazy.
For a normal person, it would have been a pretty nice season.
Jose Ramirez, I mean, Lindor gets a lot more of the fanfare because of the shortstop and the big smile.
But, I mean, Jose Ramirez finished top three in the MVP, the past the two seasons before last year.
And his second half was top three MVP level.
But his first half, his first path to the second half, I mean, was a below average MLB player.
It was a little bit of baseball.
I think there was some bad luck.
I think he lost his swing a little bit, but that's what makes this sport beautiful, man.
So, I mean, I'm in on Jose Ramirez.
He's going to be 20, this age 27 season next year.
You know who had a better season?
Who had a better season?
Carlos Santana.
Played by Carlos Santana.
34 homers, 93 RBIs, 9-11 OPS.
I mean, real good year from Santana.
Their infield's good.
Ramirez, Lindor, Santana.
Their infield is really good.
Their outfield's a crapshoot.
Their startings are pretty good.
And they lost Bauer and they lost Kluber.
And Clevenger is going to be hurt for the first six weeks or four weeks.
They still got some guys.
But it's like all, like, it's like because the franchise doesn't want to spend,
doesn't want to make trades.
So they do have talent.
They will be a winning ball club,
but it's marked up by all this.
What are they doing?
Yeah.
You know, Caesar Hernandez to round out that infield,
I mean, he's not,
I wouldn't say he's a special player,
not to be rude for him,
but he's a kind of guy who can rack up a warrior
that that infield could do some really nice stuff.
Have you looked at Caesar Hernandez?
Guys, shut up.
Jimmy and stop yawning.
Guys, get a grip.
Yeah.
Yes, thank you.
So Jimmy can work.
Shut up.
About it.
Stop yawning.
Okay, got that.
So they picked up Caesar Hernandez, right?
Scoop.
I looked at his career.
Right.
And when you click that page, you think, I'm not going to like this.
And then I think by the end, you kind of like it.
Well, he's a dude.
He's a guy.
He's a good guy.
He's not a dude.
No, he's a dude in the MLB.
Wow, man.
He played 161 games the last two seasons.
You like that.
And wasn't special.
Good.
In either direction.
No.
Slightly above average.
Yeah.
Eh.
Okay.
We covered him.
Average.
Average.
Here's my thing.
I'm a big.
Yeah.
Fran Miel Reyes guy.
Are you?
He was one of the bigger pieces they got in the
Trevor Bauer trade.
Dude had an underrated season.
He played in San Diego, which is a, I mean, a hitter's abyss.
And then he played in Cleveland for 51 games in a new league.
23 years old, he had 37 jacks last year.
And dude, he's one of the few guys that is in Judge territory.
He is one of the biggest dudes in baseball.
He's listed at 6-5-275.
Judge is 7-5.
Okay.
He comes to the AL where he'll be able to DH.
The Padres had him run around the outfield.
Too big. Too big.
Too small.
And, man, I just, I think baseball has hit this weird part where we start ignoring stats.
Last year was his first full season, 150 games.
San Diego then switches leagues to Cleveland.
He had 37 bombs last year.
This guy's a monster.
And, dude, when you start putting together this lineup, Lindor, Ramirez, Fren Mila, Reyes.
Where's Reyes going to play, though?
He's going to Deach.
You think so?
Yeah.
Carlos Santana's been playing a solid first base.
And, dude, I mean, that top four of a lineup.
That's a young DH.
Yeah, but, like, he's a guy, I think he could be a worthwhile DH.
Like, I think he can give you 40.
I hear, I know what you're saying, but I mean, it's kind of a, you.
a young like to plug in a young guy at dh it kind of sucks for him a little bit and and that does tie into some
personality stuff who is he's 23 years old who is the player this offseason that said something like
oh it was uh the guy in the white socks elou y Jimenez but someone interviewed him and was like
alloy you know he got a lot of new talent here this year would you be okay dh and he's like fuck that
yeah i don't want to play outfield
So that's where you kind of have to know a guy's personality.
If Fran Mill, if he's out there to hit, then let it ride.
I tell you who doesn't want him deaching, his agent and his manager and his dad and his mom and anyone.
Unless playing the field affects his game.
Like you could be a negative war player in the outfield.
I mean, he's giant.
So I don't know.
And I know you and I are big Mercado guys.
He's not giant.
He's a skinny dude.
He's a skinny athletic guy.
De Shields came over in that trade.
I don't know if Deshields has a spot locked up, though.
He's a guy.
I think they're going to platoon him and move him around a little bit.
So I don't know, man.
And I think it comes into when does Clevenger come back?
You know, does Carasco bounce back and put together a full season?
What is Aaron Savali?
What is Pliasek?
And I mean, when you look at this on fan graphs or something like this,
You have Clevenger, Bieber, and Carrasco, which is a really strong top three when they're right.
You have Ramirez, Lindor, Santana.
I mean, I'm big on Fran Mill, but that's a pretty strong three dudes in your lineup you got to get through.
I mean, this Indians team still has it, but all the energy is awful.
They picked up Domingo, Santana, right?
Domingo.
I don't know.
I think they did.
And I think he's going to be the D.E.
I think he's on the brewers, man.
Hmm?
I thought they...
I thought the Indians picked up Domingo Santana to a one-year deal.
Let me see.
Searching baseball reference, producing on the fly.
With a 20-21 club option.
I mean, I'm reading it from a website.
Okay.
That says they signed him.
Yeah, but I think...
Didn't he have a...
He had a mad year last year.
Well, 770 OPS.
They signed him, though.
They signed him.
Okay.
I don't even think it was a minor league deal.
I say good.
I mean, that might lead them to see he's going to be the DH and Fran Mill is going to be the outfield.
I mean, I think you'd rather have Domingo in the outfield and Franmell D.H.
I think Domingo Santana was the worst defensive outfield in baseball last year.
And I think Franmell can give him a run for his money.
That's what I'm saying.
And it's like the infield is kind of there.
They got Perez and Leon doing stuff behind the plate.
sure what kind of what who's that second from there's that second for them your guy
hernandez come domingo you're stuck on stuck on domingo uh talk about their pitchers a little bit
well they got cleveringer yeah who's the most outspoken pitcher behind bower we lowkey
love clevenger though his stuff's pretty dirty yeah and his back motion makes my back
hurt watching the pitch right right right i mean cleverer had him an amazing year last year he had like
like a, was a 27 ERA?
He was really good.
He was in like 20-something starts.
He was really, really good.
He was everyone's sleeper to win the Cy Young this year, and then he got hurt.
What an idiot.
Come on.
It'd be cool if he didn't get hurt.
Be healthy about it.
So who, they got Bieber?
Bieber.
I mean, he was 33 starts last year to the tune of a 328 ERA in his age 20.
24 season, buncho strikeouts.
That's pretty good.
Do they have Siv the kid in there?
Savali?
Yeah.
Yeah, they got Savali in there.
I mean, that's, I think I said before it's, is this team an 85 win team or a 95 win team?
And that all pivots on Aaron Savali and Zach Plesack for me.
Yeah, I mean, because they, Plesack had 21 starts, though.
He had more than six.
Yeah, I mean, but his starts were more impressive than Plesack.
Yeah, but still Plesack pretty good, man.
Yeah.
381 ERA in his like first year and he had 115 innings pitched.
Like no joke first year, 20-something starts and an ERA under four.
That's really good for a rookie season.
Went through the league twice.
Did kind of get lit up the second time he went.
league.
Ugh.
I don't like that.
Okay.
His second half, where is this?
His second half, he had a 4-6-1 ERA with some ugly starts in there.
That'll happen in this league.
Yeah.
It's not as bad as I'm acting.
Yeah.
I take it back.
Okay.
I like their lineup or their rotation.
How would, why do they?
They produce good talent.
They're, I mean, they're a real.
really want well-run organization, and that's kind of what's winning me over right now.
I mean, we get, you know, we got a little up in arms over the Bauer trade last year because
it's like, hey, you guys are in this, but they have arms.
And that's where I like Fran Milraeus, and if they can get their second half of their line,
it's the second half of their lineup, what can they do?
Because you're not going to doubt Lindor, you're not going to doubt Ramirez.
because even if you do, I mean, you can point to that,
had the worst first half ever and had a great second half.
The concoctions.
The concoctions, as you mentioned.
Carrasco, how much does he bounce back?
The second half of the rotation, the second half of the lineup,
if they can find a couple guys to produce in each,
I like my Windians.
Windians.
Windians.
Do you know that Zach Plesack had an uncle,
who was a major league baseball player?
Dan.
Dan Plesack.
Yeah.
He does MLB network stuff.
Do you know what he did in his second year of his career?
Dan, please ask second year of his career, which you're asking me.
No, no, let's skip to the fourth year of his career.
Oh, oh, I had the year two stuff.
Yeah.
I know.
I was making it harder for you.
Now I'm confused.
I don't know.
I don't know.
33 saves and 51 games finished.
52 games.
Blue Jays?
Where was he?
235 ERA, All-Star.
Or was he old with the blue jays?
jays
1989
Milwaukee Braves
89 I was still figuring out the league a little
bit yeah you were out of there
he had MVP he got an MVP vote in
1988
let me see how many votes he got
haven't even mentioned your guy
adam pluto co you know
pluto co good name
UCLA I believe
can I
uh did we even tell the people who they lost
I mean you could talk about it if you want
they traded Kluber
he's gone
Kevin Plewecki gone
Oh
Yasiel Pueg who they traded for
Gone
Sexual
Jason Kipnis
That's sad one
Domingo was signed on Valentine's Day
That's a sad one
Can you talk about Kipnis?
He was there for a while
I mean 20 years or so
20 years his
I mean he fell off a little bit
And so is life
I still liked his batting stance
I still whenever I saw
Kipness in the box
I had just pictured him hitting a homer out of my head.
He's a threat.
It's like the way he stood.
Do we get any process?
You know who they gained?
You know who's a really fun gain for them?
It was a fun gain.
Emmanuel Kloss.
Kloss.
Klaise.
Yeah, he was in that trade, right?
He throws like, supposedly he throws like a 98 mile per hour slider.
Right.
Which I don't believe, but.
And that's, we haven't been doing enough bullpen on these things, Jim.
We haven't been doing enough bullpen on these things.
Emmanuel Klaus is wondrous.
That's what this article by Ben Clemens says.
I mean, he's turning 22 soon, and Brad Hand is pretty awesome when he's right.
He's cool to watch.
101 mile per hour with movement from Klaise.
Yeah.
So watch him out of the bullpen.
That's a tough bitch to hit.
If you're in a fantasy league that counts holds or K percentage, maybe grab, I don't know how he pronounces less name,
Clay or Kloss or someone.
I'll say.
Well, maybe grab them.
Maybe grab them.
Maybe grab them.
Can you give me one player on this Indians team,
and then I'm going to go to baseball,
Savon.
I'm going to click random video.
Ooh.
I'll let you choose the player.
Okay.
You know how much I love doing this.
I get a random video of a player on this team.
Give me Mercado, man.
He's a fun guy to watch play baseball.
Fast.
Fast.
A little bit of pop.
Skinny.
What's that noise?
What is that noise?
Bill says it's the fridge.
I believe it.
All right.
Oscar Mercado, age 25, 6, 2, 195 pounds.
Ooh, his exit velocity and hard hit percentage are horrible.
Okay.
As are his expected on base percentage.
It's expected Wobun and his expected slugging.
Okay.
Tough break.
Show random video.
No whammies, no whammies, no whammies, no whamies.
This is my first random video I'm watching.
Yeah, and I think you've jinkered.
did.
Yeah.
Oh, here we go.
Sergio Romo called strike to Oscar Mercado.
Ooh.
That was a nice pitch by Romo.
Was it?
Did you see it?
I got a bad angle over here.
Here, I'll show it again.
It's just a first pitch of the at-bat.
Oh, yeah, that was nice.
Okay.
From my angle, it looked like he missed middle-middle.
That was a nice pitch for you, Sergio, Romo.
Dude, I feel like I've given my opinions on this team.
with the 85 to 95, the guys I'm watching.
Where are you out with the Cleveland Indians?
I'm not giving opinions on the show.
I said, I said, I like, watch out for Clause.
I have no idea what you think about the Cleveland Indians 2020 season.
What the hell?
I said, I like their pitching staff.
Okay.
I said, watch their Emmanuel Kloss.
Okay.
I said their infields great.
Okay.
Their outfield's a crapshoot.
I don't think your dude Fran Moray is D-Hing.
I think he's going to get.
some run out there.
I think Mercado's the only do with an outfield spot locked up.
I don't know who's playing the other spot.
Yeah.
Said all this.
But you haven't said anything about, like, the big picture.
Because that's where it gets weird.
Okay.
If Jose Ramirez is pre-concoction again,
okay.
It may just trade everyone.
Gone.
If they want to, right?
Is Lindor on the team at the end of the,
season five four three two yes okay cool otherwise they would have just traded them okay i mean if
but maybe they're dumb could have got a lot more maybe not maybe someone gets desperate i mean they
they look they got good the red sox got to go on with a pretty good return a top five guy uh from
the dodgers and jeter downs and five years or a verdugo like they could have got stuff for lindor
Yep.
And they didn't.
So why do it now?
Anyway, Carlos Santana could be a trade piece if he plays really good again.
I mean, they have a lot of these.
Brad Hand.
What's up with him?
Is this?
Oh, this is tough, Jim.
Oliver Perez.
Cleveland fans, you might want to turn the audio down a little bit for this.
They have a lot of club options in 2021.
I think they're going to decline them all.
Is Cleveland?
I'm not saying this.
No, of course not.
Is Cleveland a team that we're hoping for a bad start
Because if they sell it would be pretty awesome
Yes
Is Cleveland ownership also rooting for that
Yes
Yikes this just took a turn Cleveland fans
They brought in Sandy Leon so you can
Enjoy that
I like Sandy
Why
I mean, that's a catcher.
He's like the Sal Fasano of his time.
Like, you could not know baseball and you roll up to the ballpark and you know what position.
And like there's no way the like an eight-year-old boy is going like, Daddy, Daddy, what position does that guy play?
You know instantly.
He's like, Daddy, there's the catcher.
If he's not a coach, he's the catcher.
Yeah.
Oh, look at this picture.
Like, look at this.
Dude's a catcher.
I'm, you know, we are Yankee fans.
I'm pretty happy he's off the Red Sox
because he's the guy I like.
Okay.
Well, he's on the Indians now.
Good.
All right.
So if they go full tank mode,
which they probably won't go full tank mode.
They can sell, we own.
Domingo Santana's got a club option,
Roberto Perez club option,
Oliver Perez free agent,
Caesar Hernandez,
free agent.
Bradhand club option,
Carlos Santana club option.
So yeah,
if there's some injuries and they're not committed
to picking up these club options,
like Carlos Santana is for $17.5 million.
They're probably not going to pick that up.
Do you believe...
They openly admit they don't want to spend money.
Right.
Do you believe...
Yes.
2020 season.
Oh.
Do you believe more in the Indians or the White Sox?
Indians.
Yeah?
Wow.
Indians are a more talented team, I still think.
White Sox are still young.
And they've been like a better run organization.
They've won 90.
I mean, that's not rude.
The White Sox are the sexy team right now.
But that's not rude to the White Sox.
Right.
These Indians have won 90 plus games four years in a row.
Right.
It's where you've got to prove us a little something.
Yeah, I'm excited for the White Sox.
We can't just hand it to you.
No, you still have to go out there and do it.
The, if things go smoothly for the Indians.
Sure.
Yeah
And they go fuck you to ownership, major league style
Come on out, come on
Come on come on and come on come on come on come on come on come on come on come on now
My uncle's stutter as oh it runs in my family
What's uh
If things go well and if there's Indians fans listening this and they're like
Why are they acting like everything's gonna fall apart right?
Like if Lindor Ramirez Santana go off if police act is still good
if Siv the kid is still good, if Shane Bieber's still good,
if Clevenger comes back after a month and a half and still good,
you got a fucking dangerous team on your hands.
Yeah, but I feel like...
If a manual a class is for a 91, 91, my platt slatters.
A lot of those ifs, you just said, I mean, aren't real ifs.
Like Lindor Ramirez, those guys aren't ifs.
They're going to be good.
Clevenger's not an if.
Going to be good.
I guess if you wanted to play a Bieber card, you could.
Health with Clevenger.
Yeah.
and concoction stuff with Ramirez.
Sure.
I don't know.
This is tough.
I feel there's a little bit of me rooting against the Indians
because it would be a hell of a fire sale.
Because you...
But also, like, this could be a really good team.
No.
And I almost want...
I do want them to go...
Actually, I want them to go major league style.
And I want them to have the lead in the AL Central.
And the ownership in GM are just sitting there.
Like, well, nothing we can do with this winning team.
This sucks.
This is what's happening.
This is why we feel the way we do.
Okay.
So many teams are improving themselves.
Right.
And we want them to be rewarded.
Like I've said on record a bunch,
I want the Reds to be rewarded for what they did this offseason.
I want the White Sox to be rewarded for what they did this ice off season.
And I kind of want the Indians management, not the guys.
Right.
To be slapped in the face like you idiots.
Right.
This is what you want?
You don't want them to improve your team?
This is what you want.
This is what you want?
But they'd have a really good team.
I mean, a lot of studs on the Indians still.
I'm going to miss Kipnis.
It felt like he was a mainstay.
He was around.
I feel like his baseball got low-key pad.
How long was Kipness actually there for?
Because it did feel like forever.
Nine years, that's all.
Yeah, I was going decade.
It's only actually eight years.
Damn.
Oh, he's never really that good.
He had what?
Two years.
No.
Three.
Three good years.
I'm on the It's a Wonderful Life.
I'm DP.
I'm not sure.
Why?
How'd you get there?
How did you get there?
What's he over under?
Oh, I don't know.
I was going to do prospects.
Do they have anyone coming up?
No, so that's the other thing that's twisted.
Like, the management is literally rooting for...
Hey, where do you find the top prospect list on this?
scroll up
scroll down
bottom right
oh right there
yeah
so that's the other thing that's weird
they don't have a ton of big time
prospects coming up soon
and
man this is literally the plot to major league
I think the GM
and the ownership want this team to fail
hold on they got Yu Chang coming up
love Yu Chang
you Chang Chang
You chang chang chang chang chang chang you fool.
You almost went schmoozer.
I always go to,
I always go smooth.
That's awesome.
That's badass.
I mean, those are two people that.
You chang chang chan.
I don't know how I did it.
You chang chang chan.
Smoosers.
Oh, God.
I love the smooth.
You have no idea what that is.
This is a New York sports guy, YouTube it, I guess.
I've been on the show with him.
You know, I talked with him, right?
Yes.
It was like a highlight.
What are you providing people with?
How upset would, like, KB?
He's so excited.
If he's like you were more excited.
I'm not more excited, but excited about the schmooze.
I think you get it.
Savages in the box.
I didn't know the Yankees is traded in there.
I didn't know the Yankees traded in their pinstripes for loincloths.
It's talking baseball.
What am I? What page am I?
I know, man. That's the problem.
I was on you.
I was on Yu Chang Chang's page.
Because he made it.
He came up last year.
Yep.
And he played in a month's worth of games.
I played bad.
Oh, caught him a fucking break.
Dude, his first time ever playing.
I told you I like him.
Daniel Johnson is supposed to make his, uh, debut this year.
Are you trying to get out of this?
I feel like we're running long.
We've circled around a lot of the same stuff.
Whoa.
Yeah.
This projected over under is going to blow your balls off.
Okay.
We also have the fun fact that we have to do.
Yep.
That's usually the end.
Let's do the projected over under first.
Okay.
My idea.
See that?
Thank you.
Thank you.
Damn.
Okay.
93 and 69 was,
a record last year.
2020 projected over under is 91.5.
It's supposed to be here.
It's not supposed to have hair.
No, it's not that.
The division's going to be tougher.
And no, it's...
That's true.
It was them and the twins last year,
and they were barely trying.
You know what the other part that's killing me about this is,
they in this weird tweener year
where Ramirez didn't have it figured out,
then he got hurt,
and they're trading about.
They won 93 games, and they still miss the playoffs by, I think, what, four games?
Because Oakland and Tampa were good?
I have to tell you something.
I'm hammering the over.
Really?
Yeah.
Here's the narrative I like.
And this is, I just think, what narrative I like, and that's what I'm going to attack.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I like the twins being all cocky because they hit a lot of home runs and they beat a lot of bad teams last year,
thinking they're going to do it again.
with their new pitching stuff.
You hate the twins.
I like the White Sox thinking they're all young and fun and they're going after it.
And I like that the Indians, the players, listen to this podcast and heard us talking trash, you know?
Straight trash.
Saying we were hoping that they would fire sale.
And they're like, we've won 90 games four years in a row.
We're pretty good.
They're looking at the twins and White Sox and they're going to have to put them in.
in headlocks.
It's headlock year for the Indians in the AL Central.
And I got them going over 91 and a half and headlocking.
White Sox in one side, right?
Yep.
Twins in the other side.
Yep.
And then the Royals and the...
Here we go.
What's the other team?
Tigers.
The Royals and tigers, they've just kicked them away.
Okay.
Like, those guys, like, kind of come up and nibble at the toes and they just go,
and kick them away.
I mean, this is a, this might be the first one, I mean, a 91 over under for Cleveland at this high in our TPPs is contradictory to the order.
Like the order has been pretty good.
This is the first.
There's so many bad vibes.
I'm rooting for Major League.
No, yeah.
Yes, I am.
You already said Firestorm.
I just said that.
You already said Firestorm.
I just said I'm rooting for Major League.
You're ruined for a lot of things.
You're a ruin for a lot of things.
I'm rooting for Major League.
Sorry for the longest PPP ever.
You guys are enjoying it.
Leave a five-star review.
You're welcome.
Thank you.
Thank you.
No, what's going to happen?
That's going to happen.
They're going to be in it.
Yeah.
They're going to be neck and neck with Minnesota,
White Taks a couple game behind.
They're going to do the same thing they did last year.
And that's going to be so frustrating.
They're going to trade a piece away.
and be like, well, you know, we still think we got a shot at this,
but we got an offer for Brad Hand.
We couldn't turn down.
And the team's just going to be like, what the fuck?
Yeah.
And they're still going to push,
and then they're going to have like either an injury or a bad series that's just backbreaking.
And they feel like the city and the team is not behind them,
and they come in just under.
Okay.
So you're going under?
I'm going under.
Official.
Official.
Stamp it.
No double headlock kick.
Stamp it.
I'm not stamping it.
Stamp it.
Stamp it.
I'm rooting for Major League.
Stamp it.
Give the fun fact.
The fun fact is that Clevenger's nickname is Sunshine.
One he received after teammates likened him to Ronnie Sunshine, Bass from Remember Times.
I had a...
Sunshine.
When I was a freshman in high school, I had a line mate on the hockey team named Danny Burns.
Danny Burns.
And he was a super senior.
So he was 19 years old.
I was 14.
And we were line mates.
Yeah.
And I used to go, you are my son.
He had long bondage.
You are my sunshine.
You are my son, shine.
Danny Burns?
Yeah, but with a Y.
Oh, other Danny Burns.
Yeah, and then he would get mad of me.
Cool.
Thanks.
Go Indians.
Go Indians.
Play the fight song.
It's playing.
How long was this one, Bill?
How long?
I was trying to tell you, dude.
You were gone.
I don't know what happened to you
It's a good one
You're gone
It's a good one
