Talkin' Baseball (MLB Podcast) - Alex Bregman Signs 3-Year $120 Million Deal With The Red Sox! | REACTION!

Episode Date: February 13, 2025

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Hello and welcome to talking baseball. Alex Bregman is a sock kid. Three years of butt 20 mil. Let's talk about that. Hey, Pivotta's Apatria. Oh, no, let's talk ball. Oh, no. Oh, shoot, tight quarters.

Doesn't he's like knobbed to the pitcher, Alex Bregman? Oh. Like that swing, though. Yeah. It's a good hitters park. Hello and welcome to talking baseball presented to you by Seatgeek. Make sure you use code talking 2025, 10% off your next order. Make sure you go and use that.

Thanks to our friends at Seekkeek. Jake Storelli here in beautiful Jersey City in our warehouse with Trevor Plouf in person. We're touching Rob Chiraco is here. An emergency episode. We just did winners and losers of the offseason. And I think someone just got fully elevated into winners. Yes. the Boston Red Sox.

Trev, how are you? I'm doing great. It's great to be in person. Yeah, we were sitting at the bar at the hotel last night. Just having one. Yuck it. Together. Yeah.

And we get the Alex Breggam News, not to mention the Nick Pivetta News. So I'm excited to talk about these guys because we've been waiting to see where Breggman was going to go. And we had that an inkling of Chicago, possibly Detroit, Houston back in the mix. I think the Red Sox weren't really,

I mean, they've been involved. But according to, you know, all the experts out there. They weren't really in the forefront. Right. And here they come offering a $40 million AV to our guy.

So Breggman, he got the bag, man. It's an interesting fit. I think Gregman has something for small left fields, which kind of like that for him. That's smart, right? Yeah. But yeah, man. I want to hear your thoughts on like what that means for the AL East.

Oh, sure. Sure, sure, sure. Well, let's start with the Boston Red Sox. This was, like you said, this was rumored early on. Like, this was winter meetings. Boston's going to be involved. And, man, it's been a funny couple years for the Boston Red Sox since we've been doing talking baseball.

Like, kind of the Red Sox were trading Mookie Betts away. And, like, that was the vibe. And then I think 21, they had a little bit of juice. But for Red Sox, you know, Red Sox fans, except expect, titles. Like that whole city since Tom Brady been on a heater. Yeah. You know that that city was lovable

losers 20 years ago and then they've been winning that you know give him some time. They fired him. He's out. He's co-GMing the Cardinals now. Go look into that for a good time. It's actually, it's probably a smart plan, but it could get weird. But the Boston Red Sox, they came

back to the table this offseason. Garrett Crochet, like the best pitcher available. They got him. But there still a side to it, like Walker Bueller on one year, there was still aside to it, there was like, okay, are the Red Sox operating differently? Like, the only thing that's been big market boss in Red Sox was extending Devere. They lost Sander Bogart's, which that contract's in an interesting spot now, and we'll get to the Padres.

I guess Red Sox fans were skeptical. Skeptical they were going to close the loop on this. Because Boston also has a bunch of top prospects along the way. but they had the top of their lineup was three lefties. It was Duran, Devers, and Kosses. With other supportive lefties and Yoshida, which what's going on with him? Reggie's the perfect fit, man,

and there's some, okay, he pulls the ball, so we were wondering about different stadiums. He's in the perfect place for him. He's getting paid more AAV-wise than we ever would have thought. And yeah, as a Yankees fan, he's one of the last guys, one of the last guys I want to see coming up. It's a July game. And here comes Braggie with two runners on.

Like, yeah, it's a nightmare. In July? Well, it might be October, right? We haven't even, we haven't been talking about that for the Yankees for a year. I wouldn't worry about July for you guys. I'd worry about, yeah, like guys played a more playoff baseball games than anyone. So good for him. Yeah, it's, it's the Red Sucks, I believe, pushed their timeline up last year.

when you have guys come up and become Major League All-Stars young guys, I think realistically they thought probably before last year they, hey, let's get Abraeu and Duran and Raphael, let's get their feet wet. And then we have this other crop of prospects. Let's get them together and then we'll go. But they were too good last year. I think they... Duran's season was crazy.

I think they outperformed expectations. You forgot Trevor Story. as far as free agents being brought in because he hasn't really been on the field. Yeah, it's true. But because they're ahead of schedule, I like this. This is like something like a stopgap necessarily

because it is guaranteed for three years, but there is the opt-out. So it could be a stopgap, depending on what Bregman wants. So I think it's a win-win for them. They either get Bregman to stay for three years, and I don't know what that means if he stays. Does that mean he just has like an okay year?

Because $40 million, it's hard. That's hard to find on the open market. Yes. So even if it is a one year, a deal, I mean, they have people ready to come up and kind of take his place. Are they going to be Alex Breggman? Probably not. But they've had recent success with their young guys. It's just an interesting timeline.

I think they are one of the best teams in the American League, Jake. And even before Breggman, I thought they have a real chance to be that. I think he kind of solidifies them as at least a top. three team in the AO? Yes, I think that was already there. Yeah, it was close. And it's, okay, Sox fans aren't going to like this, but I think before the Bregman signing, which dude, we end up laughing because one guy in baseball, like I'd love to hear what we were

saying when they signed Story because I actually, I wanted Story to be a Yankee. I used to go on, my original online moniker was Jake's Story because I just didn't know if like my last name should be out there. when I was living in Colorado and we were just getting started. And one time a Rockies podcast reached out and they were like, you're not like, are you and Trevor related? We are not. They're not.

Not sure where that was going. I don't know either. No, it's for the Red Sox, it was a little bit, you're looking at the top of the A.L. And you're like, okay, are the Mariners going to, okay, giggle in my voice. Sorry, Mariners. Every episode now.

The Texas Rangers should bounce back, but also the first DeGrom update we get, that could send us in a different direction. Are the Orioles going to bounce back? Like, when you're going through the tops and you look at what the Red Sox did and their young guys on the way, it's kind of like, oh, the Sox are going to be back.

Now, I think they have an argument for best team in the AL. I do think with the Yankees coming off the World Series and the whole Yankee conversation of, okay, did they maybe become a better baseball team without Wonsoto? but hey, you're also going to miss one of the historically best hitters ever in your lineup. You will feel that. I do think the Yankees would have the edge coming into the season, but it's also baseball. How many times do we see a team?

You know, the Mets two years ago was supposed to be, oh, my God, look at the Mets. Mets last year were a better team than that team. So the Red Sox are back in the mix, which, again, most of me is excited for until that Alex Bregman October at bat. Chapman comes in for the eighth inning. I forgot about that. And then Bregman comes out to hit. Walker Bieller's a swing man.

He might just come close the games out against you guys. Right. Might as well. They grabbed a lot of anti-Yanky Infinity Stones. Yeah, so their off-season has been awesome. You know, they bring in, it's Justin Wilson and all the Chapman to the bullpen. They bring in, obviously, trade for Garrett Crochet, bring in Walker Bueller. Now Alex Bregman.

It's been, they've been added. like winners. They got a lot of alpha dogs too. They've been adding winners. Liam Hendricks is coming back. Yeah, yeah. And the interesting thing is you say Alfa, you say Alfa Dog for Breggman, which I'm on that side. But he's switching positions, apparently. According to our guy, Jeff Patterson, he's willing to move to second base. And that was my question last night. We're at the bars. There's a lot of quarter guys, but his cost has got to play. Right. And what's that mean if Devers has to move off third base? He doesn't

want to move off their base. So Bregman will move to second base, which kind of, you know, people are saying it's going to block Christian Campbell. Okay, it's guy had a crazy year in the minor leagues last year. That's okay. Yeah, that's okay. And that's another point about all this is,

talk about the Red Sox's going to be in that sweet spot right now. If they have, they have these three prospects, they really like. Roman Anthony, he's an outfielder. They have Christian Campbell, who's kind of played all over the place in the minor leagues and that Marcelo Myers. Do you have Roman Anthony? connection. Aren't you connected to one of these prospects?

Isn't like a friend of a friend or something? No, I don't think so. Roman Anthony went to the same school as Anthony Rizzo and all these other guys. Okay. There's a connection there. Fun fact. For you. You and Rizzo played catch for the foul ball one time. Okay, whatever. And then they have Marcel Meyer who is, oh, that's my connection. My babysitter dated them. Okay. Okay. I didn't want to put that out there if you didn't. Okay. Shout out, Luca. She's a sweetheart.

So they've got either capital or a plan. I'm not saying that all these guys are going to come up and do what Duran has done or even Abraeu has done. Because, I mean, I know they're top prospects, people. I know you expect a lot of them because they've been doing it in the minor leagues, but the big leagues is just different. You know prospects don't always work out. If two of those guys comes up and all of a sudden they have like five of their starters making league minimum or early arbitration, that, Jake, is when you go out and can spend $40 million.

on a free agent to supplement your roster. They're in this sweet spot. They can trade if they wanted to. They have a ton of options. And I think that's what should scare people more than anything. Alex Brevin is going to be great for them. Might be for one year. But the fact that they're understanding the timeline is there

and they just have options. I think you might see that big market Red Sox back. Yeah. And they have so many ways you can go. And that's essentially what you're saying. and whether that's... Kyle Tucker on the Red Sox next year? Easy with that.

They... They can... If they want to trade that capital and go, they can go. If those guys are good, they've got unlimited options. And yeah, you mentioned Kyle Tucker hitting free agency.

Extend Garrett Crochet. Like, you traded for him. And that was, you know, that was traded for... He essentially was traded for a prospect, a prospect package that's... I want to, this gets weird when you start talking about actual humans, but Kyle Teal, who was kind of headlining that trade,

was a little bit less of a prospect of those three guys you're mentioning. They're in similar pools, but that got them Garrett Crochet. Yes. So like, Padre fans, you're probably excited for this episode, and I don't think you should be in a second when we get there. Why? Well, I think you, I think you and I both think that Pivotta means they're going to trade someone else. Oh, yeah.

But I don't know. Hey, I know. I know Boston's rotation looks pretty solid, but what's the asking price? Oh. You know what I'm saying? Like, you think Boston's going to go do it?

I'm not saying that. I'm just saying the baseball season can go a lot of different ways. And if Dylan sees were to become available now or later, or Michael King, who also might sneaky be available, a Boston kid, by the way, former Yankee. Okay, now I'm getting hostile.

Nightmare season. Okay. They wouldn't have to trade one of those three because it's one year of Dylan Cs. They got crochet for two. Both of them as Kings one year as well? Yeah. Oh, geez.

Yeah, Padres fans get ready for that later. The point of it is the Red Sox are built great for this year. They needed a righty to break up their lefties. I think Bregman had a bone chip thing in his elbow. He had surgery on it. That maybe second base was more in play for this year than we thought. because I think there is an honest conversation to be like, hey, Rafi Devers, the conversation for multiple years now is like,

when's he going to slide over to first or even DH it? And again, Boston is probably one of the organizations that views that in the nicest light, because they've seen a first ballot Hall of Fame DH for years, that also was a Dominican, one of the best lefty hitters you've ever seen, that in their heads, that's more of a no-brainer than gets laid out. Alex Breggman won the gold glove at third base. That could become an interesting thing if, you know, if there's a couple tough hops in April

and you're looking at Breggie at second and you mentioned all these corner options, again, that would be a very first world problem if you're talking about that. But you'd also, the Red Sox have so many different options that they can move their board for this year if they need to, for the next couple years if they need to. although the one thing I keep coming back to,

I didn't think about this. What would Breggman need to opt out? 40 mil a year. 40 mils a lot, dude. That's a lot of Kish. Like, he's got young kids now. Sometimes I think guys, or people understand, like, there are times where,

and I don't, I've said this about Greg, but I think he's a rep. Right. But after three years, he could be sitting on 120 plus whatever the heck else he's made, and he'd probably be like,

I don't know if I have to play any. If I want to be home with my kids, I mean, that's that kind of deal. Well, do you think there's anything? Making $40 million that quickly? Right. And we don't know. There might be deferred money. I think it's said that there is deferred money.

Yeah. So it's just fake money. All I'm saying, I mean, that's the kind of AAB he's getting. You could do that. I don't think he's going to do it, but. Yeah, I guess, I mean, for him, it's a great if one of his next two seasons is he goes nuts, which, hey, go look at Tyler O'Neill's. The qualifying offer is an interesting part of it, obviously.

Next year he would go back out without the qualifying offer. Interestingly enough, as, you know, the Red Sox have to surrender a pick to acquire Bregman. They're actually going to gain a pick because. Levita. Bavetta just signed. Look at that. Yeah.

Yeah, no, I mean, this is, biggest winner, I think is Alex Bregman. He got, you know, I think the Cubs offered him the same amount of money for four years. Which that's... Way down. I think the Ashow, same thing. Right. And then the Detroit Tigers ended up giving him the biggest offer. Six years, 171, which is 28.6 a year.

He can opt out after the 2026 season. Cubs was the same thing. Four years, 120 opt out after the 26 season. He got everything he wanted with the Red Sox. And that's hand up, and it's a reminder. you know, talking baseball, we Trev knows ball, we both entertain, I run into some stuff.

I thought the Alonzo signing was going to be bad for Bregman, but Breggman had the chips all along. Like, he had these offers in his pocket, and yeah, you have to wonder what he was waiting for. Was there question marks about living in Boston? Like, and family

stuff. I'm not doing like any Boston hate or anything, but I don't know. I think he's got a, I believe he posted on social media that his wife is pregnant again. Good for them. Yeah. That like, again, there's life questions.

Yes. Hey, Chicago, 120 million. Boston, 120 million. Detroit. Houston? Was that still sitting there? Like, you're debating a lot of really good problems that Bregman's a huge winner.

It would be crazy to see what it would be for him to opt out again, get more of a bag, and then, okay, is it life decision? Is it World Series chasing? It could be anything with him that he, He is a massive winner from this. And if you're a Red Sox fan, you have to be on Cloud 9. And like you hear a little Yankee panic in the voice because it's, okay, the Yankees went to the World Series. Okay, no teams really stepped up.

The one team that did is the Sox. All white middle infield. Whoa. Rarity. Whoa. What? That's okay to say. That's okay.

How many else? I mean, there's not a lot of them out there. Interesting. Go check that out. Swanson Horner. Orioles, possibly. Yeah. Jackson is the second baseman.

Okay. I don't know where I'm going to. I don't know either. Who cares? I thought we were saving unexciting. I was going to go, well, no,

because I was going to go, I was going to go, is this one of the most attractive middle infield duels? But I don't think, I don't know how I feel like is Breggman in that category. Yeah,

I don't know. You have him lying about his height. Yeah, I do. Hey, I will say, okay. Some Red Sox just wrap up on it. Does Trevor Story have more pressure on him or less pressure on him?

Oh, less. If the Red Sox are viewed as a contender, it's been a couple years for Trevor Story. Yeah, he's got to feel healthy. He's got to feel healthy, but, you know, if he's having a tough go, that conversation gets interesting. I guess, how about this?

I think there's a little more pressure on the left side of the infield, Because if Devers isn't playing defense, you've got the gold glove third. He doesn't care. He doesn't care. He doesn't care. They got a gold glove third baseman and second. They've made their decision. Go rake, big fella. Right. But at a certain point, you know, there's a lot of conversation last night at the bar about the Yankees and Claiboriz was asked to play third base and he said no. And the Yankees are like, okay. But I don't know. If you've got a gold glove third baseman and third base defense.

isn't there for you. The shortstop position, which you thought you addressed a couple years ago, has been a little bit of a wild card. Could be interesting. Sure. There's more pressure, which is awesome, because pressure means there's expectations, which there hasn't been in Boston for a couple years.

If it gets that bad, we're like, oh my gosh, we can't play this guy at third base, which I don't know if it's going to get that bad because he makes up for it with the bat. Then, yeah, you try to move Yoshida, you put Devers at DH, you put Regman back over at third base, and if Story can't get it done, you have a guy Marcelo Meyer who's just waiting in the wings.

Like, they have options, which is. This is a loaded question. What would GM Trev do? If you're where these Red Sox are, are you, hey, let's see what we've got for half a year. Yeah, I, the, well, I mean, I guess in my mind, like, best case scenario, we would have already traded Yoshita.

Right. And it's an interesting part of this. I think, I think if you're optimizing a lineup, I think it's, it is Devers a deal. Alex Greg Manette third base and cost us at first. Yoshita's like, I don't know. He's,

what's been his OPS plus throughout his career? It's right around league average a little bit above, I believe. Yeah, the numbers aren't bad. Yeah. I think there was a slow start last year. I can get in there again.

And they've got, man, I'll tell you, a sneaky, this is some talking baseball stuff. Three or 11-11. That's pretty dang good, man. It's good. If anybody that you're bringing up, you're like, I hope he has a 11 OPS plus.

Yeah. They also have a sneaky ace in the hole with Rob Reff Snyder, who's just been mawling lefties for a couple years. The Red Sox are going to hit. It looks like they're going to pitch. And yeah, I think at this point, if there's a Yoshita offer, you listen.

It feels like the pressure's off Yoshita. I don't think you. So I don't, I want to trade him like Yoshita could have an 800 OPS next year. Yes. Easy. Yeah, I mean, look, it's, it's, you brought this up. I don't think there's a problem. If Bregman moves the second base, that's the solution to the problem this year.

So I don't really believe there is a problem. But I mean, I guess like, I was just trying to think optimizing my lineup. And that's me counting on one of these guys coming up and being a productive thing. Yeah. God, socks are back. I've been freaking saying that all offseason. I know. Yeah.

And it was right. Breggman. It was right. And now it's literally, it's the perfect piece. I guess the other part of this, Nolan Aronado was getting rumored there. And I think a lot of Red Sox fans and baseball fans kind of thought that would happen because Aronado's Dead Pull as well.

You kind of get a Hall of Famer for depending how much money the Cardinals are going to eat for a bit of a discount. And his contract gets lower as it goes. His final year's 15 mil. But the Red Sox rolled it out there. What does it mean? for Houston.

I know they made their moves already, assuming he wasn't going to be back. But I also think there was like a glimmer of hope in their eyes. You know, especially with the fans, this guys have been sitting around. And I don't know how this feels for them. I guess, hey, Noel Tuve in left field,

which is kind of like nice. I would have liked to see him. I don't know. I like him on saying, base. Hey, don't rule out anything with Houston. That's always the deal. Yeah.

I mean, Isok Perettas and Christian Walsh. or might combine for 75 homers this year. I want to say it's the end of an era because I feel like Bregman and Altovae really were the guys. Yeah. But I don't know if I'm ready to say that yet. Yeah, it's tough because I mean,

Correa was a guy for a little bit. George Springer was initially. So like, I don't know, Houston's operated this way. They find a way to win the West that I... If they don't make the playoffs this year or something like that, then you can officially say it's the end.

end of me. I don't, I don't think that's going to happen. Yeah, they, they have to do that and they, they haven't. Um, I don't know, anything else, Bregman, Red Sox, Tigers, Cubs. Does anything need to be said there? Like, I guess it's, I guess both fan bases in a weird way should be happy. Like, I doubted that the Tigers were going to roll out that kind of offer for why not, they did it. Why not? Why not? For me, it was the Bayas money, like, wait for that to figure itself out a little bit. Their payroll's pretty low, Jake.

And then the Cubbies, I guess that's the, the Cubbies were in on this. See, again, I, it's a win-win for the Cubs. They either sign them and you have Bregman or you have your guy, Shaw, who you want to see out there. They really believe in this guy. I think they were, they were thinking, if we get them, great, we will figure it out,

but they don't need them. A little more mad shot pressure. A little bit more mad shot pressure, yeah. We were willing to offer. that guy, $120 million to play baseball. Or you say if you're Matt Scha, they're willing to give a guy $120 million? I'm a guy.

Hey. Hey, if I play baseball. If I put up floor war this year, why do we talk a little bit? God, that's interesting. I, hey, and maybe people don't care about me saying this, but good for baseball a little bit. The Red Sox, Detroit, and Chicago, putting offers out there.

not going to like you saying that. Why? Big market team Jake. Good. Corporate Jake. Oh, what? Let the big market teams offer something. If the big market teams aren't being big market teams, that's even worse. Agreed. That's worse. Um, God, Red Sox. Yankees might be exciting this year. That's good for the sport. Shut up, Big Market, Jake. I mean, they could, they followed the Red Sox around last year. They could have ran it back. They should have ran it back this year. Yeah. Maybe they will. Maybe we don't even know. Yeah. I don't know.

That's a great question. Has anyone watched? I think it's April, right when a season starts. Okay. So this year we're going to be able to track last year? Yeah. Baseball. Baseball.

That's every Netflix series. So the golfs a year ahead? It's all a year behind. So you're just kind of reacting. Like a full year? Yeah, basically. Interesting. Yeah.

You watched a golf one, right? I watched a couple episodes. It was okay. So this one's going to start off really good. And then end. Yeah, right, they were hot. They were hot. Okay.

Alex Bregman's off the board. That pretty much clears free agency, except your guy full pension PIV was out there kind of lurking this whole time, kind of got lost in the hodgepodge of pitchers a little bit. There's some interesting numbers there. This was a guy pitching at Fenway that the ERA was a little inflated. This guy had some awesome stats out of the bullpen that

what were teams going to view him? as he seemed like a pitching lap guy. It always seems like teams like Nick Povetta. Yes. He goes to the San Diego Padres. New ownership, be damned. What's the contract? You're my numbers guy.

Four years 55, I believe it is. Okay. Which is, in my opinion. Yeah. For a guy that's been a workhorse. Yeah. His entire career. He's done bullpen and starting.

Right. He is a pitching lab guy Tall can spin it Manipulate the arm angle Whatever you got to do to figure this out Yeah He's been consistent He's been a middle of the pack

Starter And those guys have been getting Anywhere from 15 to 17 million dollars a year And I believe what is this divided What's 55 divided by four 15 16? Yeah But those have been one year deals

He's doing that I just think this is a great deal for San Diego I think it's a very movable deal. If he starts out hot and you're like, all right, we're doing the whole Padres thing this year. We're going to sell everyone off. Then you can move that very, very easily.

Or you have a piece. I think this is just value. It's a value deal for the Padres anyway that you slice it. So Pivotta turned down 21, gets 55 guaranteed, but the Aavs are a little less. It's a weird contract where most of its back. I believe he gets a $3 million signing bonus this year and then $1 million salary. That's interesting to me.

Yeah. Don't really know what's up with that. Then the deal fluctuates from like 14 to 19 a V a year. It goes 19, 14, 18. So it's, to me, this is a steal for the project. Yeah, and I, I'm looking at Joe Musgrove's numbers right now because Joe Musgrove, a couple injuries, but, you know, Joe Musgrove has been. Really good. I mean, if you go back to 22, 293RA, 305 ERA, 388 last year,

his FIP, you know, I love a good FIPP. Not super far off from Pivotto, which, again, Pivotta's been, what, Phillies in Boston? Those are two tough places to pitch. San Diego on the right day that, yeah, I think for, if you're playing fantasy baseball, Povetta's ERA should drop naturally that, I don't know, I still get caught up in ERA a lot of times because I do think that matters, but you do have to factor in the ballpark, the defense behind you that, yeah, I think this is a good value sign for the Padres.

And unfortunately, it's a little bit of the next conversation that if this is the Padres rotation, it kind of goes to that, the conversation of we get sucked into the offseason and look how many moves this team did. And it's like, well, the Padres went toe to toe with the Dodgers. They were really good. Sure, they lost a body or two. But if you replace it with Nick Povetta, that could be fine. I guess the question that's looming over Padres can, I know there was rumors that, like, Cs wasn't going to report

because he was so deep in trade rumors. If Povetta is filling in, it goes back to the same conversation we've had. If Povetta's an ad, Padre fans should be stoked. Yeah, they've had some. That's an interesting. I mean, I don't know if interesting is the right word for their off-season. I think it's been pretty brutal for Padres fans, if we're being honest. I agree with you.

If this is Nick Povetta coming to join that rotation and all the guys are there, I like the rotation a lot, right? I still think there's a lot of banging that lineup. Connor Joe, Jason Hayward, Pithoon, and left field. Sure, we can figure it out. Like, we're getting, I like it. If this is a move that, you know, start. like the trade rumors back up.

Yeah. Like, hey, we brought a body in, let's have a body out, whether it's king or cease. Then I'm like, I'm back out. Right. I don't,

I really have a very hard time locking in my feelings about the San Diego Padres. Because, like you said, they just went toe to toe with the Dodgers. The Dodgers were calling them the best, the better team. Right.

They didn't lose that much. Alon Kim wasn't there. Right. ProFar. They lost proffer. ProFar had a great year. Scott would become a weapon for them. But bullpen weapons can come.

You can find bullpen guys. But I feel like people are talking about them like they're done. Yeah. And they didn't have a great offseason. They had the lawsuit going on. They've, you know, pro four came out and spoke about how that maybe affected his decision. I don't know how true that is. I really don't know how I never thought about what the heck was going on with my ownership.

Right. He just was like, all right. I think you probably want the best contract you can get. Yeah. It's like, okay. I don't think it really affects anything on the field other than like, hey, are we going to bring people in? Hey, they named a new control person

and here comes Pivotta. So I don't know, man. I'm very confused that how to feel about the Pagers. I still think I like him a lot. If they start trading away guys, then yeah, it's signaling something different. If they keep this, you're right. And I would kind of,

the scope of the NLS has been tough to picture this whole time because it's like we were excited the giants have put some chips in the table. Willie Adomas, Justin Verland. Let's see what the old Bulls guy. The snake's got Corbyn Burns this offseason. The Dodgers are obviously dodgering.

You know what I kind of like, Trev. And I know this will get you. It's early, but this will get you going a little bit. The Padres with a little chip on their shoulder? That's never gone anywhere. A pissy pot. Well, no, dude. They went from like America's sweetheart.

Like you got to watch these Padres. They're electric. Look at those jerseys. Right. Oh my God. City Connect. This is MLB, the show come to life. And then it was like the pot tati suspension.

But like the Padres were back to kind of being lovable and like, wow, these guys are good next year that just everything you said with this off season. Like ownership and how good are the Dodgers that there's not a lot of people that are banging the table for the Padres that I don't hate that for them. I don't hate Tatis being pissed off. And, like, I think his OPS landed in the... Rob will get it for me. Tatis is OPS on the regular season last year. What do you think it was? Um, I'm trying to remember if it was last year.

He had one in the 780s or something. Did he get into the 8s, low 8s last year? That's what I'm debating. Where did he land, Rob? 883. 833. 833. 833. 833.

833. 833. 833. 7, 7. So, like... I think we, I think everyone in the world think Tatez has more than that. Yes, he does. Xander Bogartz, I don't think he's done.

He had a rough year last year. They're like, where's Shacks and Meryl going to the moon? That's our guy. Yeah, the Padres have a lot you can look at and be like, they don't necessarily need the world of baseball to happen. And oh, this. Like, no, they still got dudes. I've been saying that.

If they keep these guys, look, look out. NL West is a bloodbath. It really is. Worried about my rocks. Starting to get worried. Calquantral just signed. With the Marlins. Rockies.

What is you doing? He will be on a team's trade deadline list. This guy has success at our ballpark that nobody has success at. Let's let him go to the Marlins. He might have a great year. I'm buying a little calquantral stock. I think what will be interesting. So, hey, they're not.

They've got a nice rotation. Go Padres go. If they are, if these are a new ownership operating differently, Padres, I'll be interested to see if they can do kind of what they did with Michael King with C's like,

okay, let's say they're trading Dylan C's to, I don't know what team, if you want to dream on one go, but can they get a starting pitcher? Controllable, yeah. You kind of like for two or three years, like kind of retool. they don't need prospects right now. Or can they do exactly what they did,

which I always laugh. If you go look at a lot of GMs or coaches or whatever, a lot of times they have their song and they play that song, that I wonder, or maybe Preller does cease to a team for prospects, and then they flip one of those prospects and one of their guys. Oh, you're getting into the weeds now. Too far. A little, that's too far for you. Okay.

I guess that was talking Padres. What else do you need, big guy? I think it's good. I think that kind of wraps the offseason. A little bit, right? Who else is out there? Kintana. That's always my first one.

What's that about it? I do like him. I just think an old lefty dog. And he was nasty last year down the stretch. God, I don't know, man. And I've been... That's about it, coach. There's a couple of relievers still up there.

A couple other arms you can dream on or get innings from, but yeah. What is it? February 13th. The day before Valentine's Day. Yeah. You and me. Same hotel. No.

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