Talkin' Baseball (MLB Podcast) - Alex Bregman Signs 5-year Deal With The Cubs! | 1082

Episode Date: January 12, 2026

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Hello and welcome to talking baseball is the stove hot. It is in Chicago. Alex Bregman is a cub. Edward Cabrera is a cub. We haven't talked about that. Go Cubs, go. Red Sox, you sleeping? Yankees, you sleeping?

Matthew Boyd. Aramis Ramirez. Sorry, Maddie B. Hello and welcome to talking baseball. January 12th. Happy Monday. I am Jake Storelli. That is Trevor Ploof. Rob Chiracca is producing. Dalton Feeley is getting the stats and info updated. And we actually had baseball news. We didn't have to get our creative cat hats on because Alex Bragman, one of the biggest free agents, the past couple years, signs with the cubbies that there's

been rumors of that for the past couple years. And there's some kind of, you know, there's some good Red Sox drama tied into it. An exciting time for Chicago sports fans who got to have a nice little Saturday evening, a little Caleb, a little breggy. And Trevor Plouf reporting live from California after checking out the East Coast this weekend. How you doing, Coach?

I'm doing great. I'm doing great. I have to start off. It is January 12th, which means it is my anniversary. Yeah. To the wedding, to my beautiful bride. Olivia, 13 years, Jake. We've been together. Wow.

Well, longer than that, but 13 years married today. So shout out Olivia. Everyone knows how much I love Olivia. I gave her a card this morning, some flowers, and we got some dinner and stuff planned. But she's the best. Yeah. I love her. I needed to shout her out.

Good. Am I building on that? No, I mean, I don't know what else we got to do. I'm doing great. I'm very happy to talk ball. I did. Yeah, I texted Bregman. Sam Fold finally got back.

me a lot of stuff going on. This is an interesting one to me, Jake. I got a lot to say, I think, about this. Yeah, you and I, I mean, A, we hit cold stove season, full blown. Congrats to you and Olivia. From us in the audience. I don't shout her out. I mean, you shout her out. 13 years.

Wow. Okay. Baseball. Again, we're working on our life advice. pod coming up in the near future, but we can go baseball. And yeah, we, hey, we just missed Edward Cabrera, which will end up tying into this conversation and a pesky Marlins lineup. But I think we saved that for a little bit because Breggie signs.

And it's, Trev, this is really fun because, sure, there is the new baseball side to it where, you know, Alex Breggman has an OPS in the 8s and he's, you know, goes to the division series every year. first time being an NL guy. That was kind of a weird head tilt for me this morning. We used to care about that a lot more. But Alex Bregman signs with the Chicago Cubs, five years, $175 million.

No opt-outs, full, no trade. We got a bunch of deferred money. We've got the Red Sox. Feeling left at the altar. Buster Olney's tweeting about it. I think it starts. with snaps for Bregman, snaps for the Cubbies. And I guess the other part that I just left out at this,

because Alex Bregman's obviously a very good baseball player. But Trev, there is another side to this that is like leadership, clubhouse culture, that the Cubs who have been picky and choosy, Jesus, Jake, about how and who they're giving their money out to, this guy has been a target for them. They get him. And part of that off the field stuff is part of the reason that they got it done.

Yeah, I mean, everyone is looking for this. Even if you have a guy that's already a leader in the clubhouse, it's not so much. And again, yeah, we'll get to the Red Sox side of this, but I do think this should be mostly about the Cubs because they got the job done. You know, when you talk about leadership in the clubhouse, it's not just like some guy directing the team

and we go this way and I'm going to say stuff to the media. It's not, I don't think that's really what Alex Breggman is about, and that's what they're talking about. It's more so the work ethic and how he goes about his business and how that rubs off on everybody else. Because that is very important in the club, especially if you have some young guys who are still trying to establish their routine, seeing a guy with his sort of career, the statistics and the seasons that he's had. If you see a guy like that still grinding in hitters meeting, still watching all the extra video, you know, getting in a great cage routine, taking care of his body, all these things. Like, if you're a young guy and you're like, if Alex Bregman is doing it, I got to do it.

And I don't, I'm not saying that nobody in their clubhouse is doing that already. We know Ian Hab's world class guy. I mean, what I could wax poetic about Ian Hap forever. Okay. And you got guys like that. You got Danzby there. You got Nico Horner. These guys are workers.

He just adds to that element. And I think that's what people are. really after it. The leadership as far as talking to the media as far as, you know, kind of just being a veteran is great, but it's really like the work ethic rubbing off on everybody else. And that's what they're going to get along with, yeah, like a world class baseball player. When he's on the field, mid-8s OPS, gold glove defense, he fits the mold exactly what Chicago needs. We're talking adding to that infield. Oh, my God. goodness. Thinking about him, Danesby, and Nico

out there, like don't hit the ball on the ground in Chicago. It's a wonderful, wonderful signing for the Cubs. And like you mentioned, they've been after him for quite some time. And they stepped it up, man. They gave him that full no trade, which was, I think, kind of

not the deal breaker, but the deal sealer. Gregman, we mentioned it many times as we were talking about maybe him going to Arizona. He's got a young family, man. He wants some stability. And now with this full no trade, he gets it. Yeah, I want to talk about that part because that, that is interesting.

I guess that starts to lead into the Red Sox part of it. I don't know. That Cubs also had the highest money offer, which sometimes I think we wander away from that. We'll get to that. I want to talk more Coveys because this is, like you mentioned, that infield is so fun. You said don't hit it on the ground. Don't hit it in the air. Yeah, that's true.

PCA out there. So the Cubs, and, you know, when you mention the Cubs infield, arguably Michael Bush out of those guys, what he did last season offensively was the most productive. And there's some Nico Horner rumors out there. He gets thrown out in trades because this is his last year, but I don't know, personally, I think he had like a six B war last year that if you're the Cubs and you're trying to win, I don't think trading Nico Horner away right now. is the most effective way of doing that. But this is a, I don't know, we've kind of been in a dance with the Cubbies

where they traded for Kyle Tucker and then it was kind of out in the open that they were never going to resign Kyle Tucker, which that's an odd feeling. And then even going back to the Cubs, you know, the Cubs team that broke the streak, it was Javier, it was Rizzo, that, I don't know,

it was just in that time era of baseball where you extend it, you keep one of those guys, right? You get a Wrigley statue guy, and maybe those guys are still going to get statues. But it felt uncomfortable for a little bit that they go through a little bit of a rebuild. They signed Dansby, and that was their first like, okay, the Cubs are players.

We want Danesby to lock up shortstop and kind of symbolically bring us into the next era of Cubs baseball. Now, Hap, who's coming up on his free agent year, Don't be afraid to go nuts happer. That bringing in Bregman, we didn't know if they were going to do that because in theory they didn't have to. Like in today's baseball, make the wild card and the playoffs are a crapshoot, all of that.

Like, you know, Matt Shaw is a young prospective player that if he came to camp and, hey, we want him to build off last year and we think there's more in there, okay, you can mentally spin that. They don't. And now I think they're looked at as, I don't know if anything. Anyone's looked at as the Dodgers. But as far as any other National League teams go, I think the Cubs go toe to toe with the Phillies,

with I guess the Brewers, the Padres, whoever else you have as elite National League teams. I think there's a couple spots they still need to shore up, which will get into the Edward Cabrera move. I think that starting pitching, we need to get healthy. Having Justin Steelebeck's second half of the year, I still think there's a little bit of question marks there. Obviously, they're trying to figure it out.

And one reason they went after Edward Cabrera, again, we'll get into that in a say, is because he's still not making a ton of money. Even this contract with Bregman, they deferred a portion of it to keep them under that first competitive balance tax threshold, which is a lot of teams are trying to do. Everything about this Bregman deal makes a ton of sense for the Cubs. I mean, look, you wanted the guy, you went after him. You mentioned the money. They gave him his money, but they also gave him the full no trade.

No qualifying offer because he already had it with the Red Sox. They're not losing a draft pick, which I think is important to them. And I keep going back to the Kyle Tucker trade. They gave away a lot. I think Camas Smith is going to be a hell of a ball player. He showed flashes of it last year. And for a guy for one year, you know, that's a big trade for them. And you forget about the Michael Bush trade.

trade. Right. Like, they nailed that. Yes. So, like, you could just kind of like, even those out right there. Like, no harm, no foul. Like, Michael Bush is an absolute monster. And he's, like, he'll be in the middle of that freaking lineup for years to come. I love the lineup.

I even love some of that back into the bullpen. I think the pitching needs to figure itself out a little bit. But, yeah, I'm with you. I mean, they're going to be one of the top teams in the national. National League. Yeah. A couple other Breggman fun facts.

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save yourself 10% off, whatever tickets you're going to, football, basketball, NBA, concerts, whatever you got going, save 10% with Seek. Alex Bregman posted his highest exit velo and hard hit rate last year. So those are something that we like and we look into. He was great. The Red Sox's first three months. He did get hurt. He missed the whole month of June.

And then he faded as the year went on, which I don't know, baseball injury, combination, we'll see. Alex Bregman, ninth on the career postseason games played list all time, just got his five-year deal. And I think the coolest thing, because Bregman has so many cool stats, man, like OPS with two strikes was the best among MLB hitters. He doesn't strike out a lot.

He mash his lefties. Here's a Dalton Sicko One. Hasn't grounded out into a double play in 34 opportunities in close and late situations. That's the best in baseball. I like that. Sure. Quality at bat rates.

It's like all of these things that, you know, kind of the old school baseball I test and why you and I are such Bregman fans and we got lost in baseball fantasy that this guy is going to be like Justin Turnering and playing till he's 40 and contributing. Like there's stats that basically back that up. And I think the biggest thing, if I'm a Cubs fan, third base, as much as I said some nice things about young Matt Shaw before, the Cubs third base ranks last year, 30th and batting average, 219, 29th in OPS 621, a 0.4 F4 was 27th.

So a clear spot that was the weakness on the club Cubs lineup last year is fully addressed. And that's before you get off to all the off the field stuff we complimented him on. I need to take a step back. I was talking about the starting pitching and maybe they need some more. I think I am wrong about that. Going back and looking at what Matt Boyd did last year, Argarayone, like there's a potential,

especially if Justin Steele is back, there's a potential for like Cade Horton, Cabrera, Justin Steele at the top of the rotation, and then like your depth guys are Matt Boyd. And, you know, Ben Brown's a psycho to me. I don't know if that's ever going to figure it out, but like I was wrong.

I think they are hitting coach in all facets of the game. It's interesting. We'll stay cubbies. Red Sox will get to you. That showed as a bonus. Yeah. Like you know what I mean? Like what they what they have right now is depth with the potential to have like a high end top three.

They have they have depth. So right now their rotation is listed, Boyd, Edward Cabrera, Cade Horton, who was so good for them. Shoda, Jameson, Tion. Justin Steele is slated to come back at some point this season. And then I was also just impressed, like you mentioned with the, you know, Ben Brown threw 106 major league innings last year. And again, like he had, you know, there's talent there.

he really struggled with some big innings and getting caught up in his starts that, okay, what if the light bulb goes off for him? That, yeah, I was, I forget the Jakey math I did it, but, you know, I think they have, with Colin Ray now listed in their bullpen, I think they have seven guys that threw like 15 starts last year. So you're hunting major league innings, and they have major league pitchers that did that last year that, okay, Edward Cabrera has a little bit of an injury history.

What happened to show to last year? Cade Horton coming up in his follow-up season. Matt Boyd, with one of his best seasons ever, can he continue that? That, yes, with any pitchers, there's going to be questions about injury. And then there's usually a follow-up question about performance where, yes, there's not the guy on the page that jumps off

that you're like, okay, like he's going to be seventh in the Cy Young next year. but they really do have enough options to click that they have a, their starting pitching has mitigated risk well, which you know that's what I'm always talking about, whether baseball or my financials, that the bullpen freaks me out again, because it's kind of the same thing where the names don't jump off the page, but the Cubs and what they've done pitching-wise,

they also deserve a little credit that they've, they have been able to tap into dudes pretty well with their current recipe there that I think the cubbies are done I think this is your team and I think it's a very good team I got into a little spat I'm not going to call it a spat

a little back and forth with our guy Lance Brzdowski and I might be mispronouncing that's a tough last name I have one too no big deal great like pitching guy on X he was talking about when we said

teams are going to go more contact oriented might get rid of slug. He had some thoughts about that, which, you know, I was busy this week and I couldn't go back and forth. I couldn't continue, bro. I gave you, I gave you one response. That's all I really got time for. You were on the PJ.

You said you had a PJ. You said you had a PJ story too. I got a story not right now. Okay. I like this guy a lot. So if you don't follow him, go follow him. And he's talking about Edward Cabrera and kind of like the changes he made last year with the mar.

So he dropped his arm slot, which elevated his curveball stuff. stuff plus metric. And the Marlins, instead of a four seamer, emphasize a sinker and a slider. So his walk rate fell. Like all these things, he's basically trying to say that there's a lot more in Edward Cabrera. If he can find that command and they can pinpoint exactly, this is what we talk about all the time, man.

Like the organizations that know how to use the data and can make these guys change overnight. Like, if you get Edward Cabrera and his armed talent in. in and you get him throwing the pitches that fit his profile, and maybe you find the right arm slot for him, all of a sudden you can be looking at an ace. If this guy can stay healthy and you can get him in the zone with the stuff that he has,

the armed talent that he possesses, like you can be looking at an ace. He hasn't done that yet. Right. Like he has not shown, he has not been an ace, but he has ace stuff. That makes sense.

Yeah, he, he, arm talent, pitches, Velo, stuff, movement, Like, you know, and last season, after April, he went 119 innings pitch to a 295. Like, that's, you know, that's the majority of a baseball season at a very high clip. His April was rough. And, yeah, I think with Edward Cabrera, and, you know, the Cubs traded a real package that, not our best lane, but we can talk about that in a second.

Because the Marlins deserve a little love. Finish higher than the Braves last year. People forget. But Edward Cabrera, yeah, you're. What I like, it feels like he's potentially peaking that, you know, some of the off-speed stuff did grade out fantastic last year. And the speed and velo on his fastballs, it feels like it's just finding a comfort spot or better location or kind of what you were just talking about.

But I like that, you know, last year, he threw 137 innings. It's his first time throwing 100. So, again, pitching-wise, you can go glass-half full, glass-half empty. You could be like, wait, Edward Cabrera is building up to become the big league starter, or I don't know. Because some of it's blisters and like, all right, I can deal with that. Other parts of it are elbow that, you know, that first update that comes out from spring training or you see him walk off the mountain funny in Chicago this year and you start to get really nervous. But talent-wise and the cost, I mean, what is it, 4.4 million?

Yeah, so if he was on the open market and they said, hey, what's a three-year? deal for Edward Cabrera. Like he's getting $45 million, right? Something like that. Maybe more? I don't know. More. Kind of a crazy question to... If he was a free agent right now, I think he gets like $25 a year. Yeah, I mean, I'm just saying for three years because that's what they have control of.

Right. Yeah, maybe, maybe, yeah, exactly. It could go up to 25 for sure. Yeah. The Cubs are going to have him for three years at like 21, like total. Yes. Unless he goes nuts and then they're happy to pay him more. Right.

I mean, it was, that's why a lot of the teams really coveted him because of the years of control and the cost control. I mean, that's just the bottom line. You know, I'm always on here talking about, hey, they don't need to worry about that, especially a team like the Cubs. But they are worried about it. That's the reality of the situation. So this is, yeah, he's got a lot to offer. I think the Cubs have had a hell of an offseason. And, you know, the whole, like, bringing Kyle Tucker back, like, maybe they're,

got him over there and he wasn't a fit. Right? You never know to you know, I guess. Well, it doesn't seem to me, and maybe I'm wrong, but we didn't really hear rumors of them making a big offer to him to bring him back. Right. So, well, and if he doesn't fit, he doesn't fit. And Tucker will, we'll get to him a little bit because again, I think his free agency has entered a weird spot that I, I think teams are now being more open and honest about, you know, 35 million a year a couple years ago. That was mind-blowing. Like, that's crazy money, but also with the deferred money, and the five years.

Teams are freaked out by the years, and I don't know if that's... And again, these guys are inner circle Hall of Famers, but like, Miguel Cabrera, Albert Pujols, how a couple of those long contracts winded down, teams are scared of that, that I assume Tucker is still out there asking for 8, 9, 10 years that, hey, if you're just looking for good baseball players, I think Tucker has an upside that we've talked about

that, you know, his 24 season that he played half the year, he was on pace to be, he was hitting at a Wonsoto level while having some base running, defense, like an all-around talented player. Bregman's high-end potential, we think we've seen it. turning 32 this year. Again, we've talked about the baseball rat side of things.

And it's got the Wrigley side of it's going to be interesting to me. Like Ian Hap has had some cool combos with us where he's like, dude, in April, I just, I'm just trying to get out of there with a batting average that looks okay on the scoreboard. Because there's some days you could piss on a ball and it's not leaving the ballpark. Now, when summer rolls around, there's a couple days where you put it in the air. Like, you know, this summer, get ready for some Ian Hap and Alex Bregman and Fuego's segments where it's like ball was traveling. Breggie got it up in the air and they had a good week.

I don't know. Even if the Aav is similar, let's say Kyle Tucker and Bregman are asking for the same amount of money, if you're the Cubs, maybe they just value third base play more. Or it is the off-the-field stuff that, you know, the Red Sox literally ranted and raved about publicly on how much that affected their organization that, hey, if you're going to give your money to someone. Maybe that's why they chose him. I don't know.

I feel like, okay. Talking about those two guys. Yes. There's only one of them that teammates have been outwardly after games talking about how much he's helped them. And I'm not saying Kyle Tucker's not that. I'm just saying that when you have teammates, young guys, managers,

front office people coming out and talking to the media about how great you are in the clubhouse, Do you think that hurts or helps your free agent profile? Like, oh my gosh. He probably owes Roman Anthony a few steak dinners. Because when you got a young guy with that potential saying, oh, he helped me so much even when he was hurt, I mean, that keeps the dollar figure pretty high right there.

And again, like, I don't know. We haven't really heard that from Kyle Tucker teammates, I don't think. And that can be the difference of like, hey, this is, we want this guy. I think we it's hard to we talk about us all the time. It's hard to quantify like clubhouse culture. Like it's very difficult to do that. But in a 162 game season, I'm telling you it's just very important that you have guys that can show up for you day in and day out that can help. It's just you need that. And I know front offices know that. I know that they know that. It's just very difficult to kind of like quantify.

What is that worth? And how do you get it? I think a lot of times it's just kind of like, look, you can do your homework on guys and say special type of person here. Like we know his background, his family. We've heard from teammates, whatever. Until you get everyone together, you can't really ever, can't really ever tell. A couple of bowls getting together not liking each other.

Jake, you and I know that. We tussle from time to time. And we love from time to time. Rob and Dalton get a little scared. The dads are fighting. Yeah, I don't know. I guess I was, I wanted to talk about Happer a little bit because Happer is one of the, like, most professional people I've ever met in like a, and again, I don't, I don't know how that comes off. It's just like, he's show.

Like, I remember laughing that it was just like, oh, Ian Hap is show. Like, he does everything the right way. You will never have a question about his work ethic or how he, how he handles everything. He will make sure it gets dealt with the right way. I think Bregman has a little bit of that. And I think, like, Dan's be it. And, like, I guess the part that gets me kind of excited, because there's, A, these are elite.

The three guys I just mentioned are going to make hundreds of millions of dollars playing baseball. They have multiple gold gloves, multiple All-Stars. Like, it's a certain tier of baseball player that when you talk about team building, it's like, well, all right, you know, those guys could find a place on any team. I do think the Tucker side of this that, you know, the teams he's been linked to, you know, it's still kind of Toronto, the Dodgers. Kind of funny, like, in a way, is he just a better fit there? Because, well, the Dodgers, anyone can fit in.

But think about what we've said about them. Like, when you have those guys that almost set a Hall of Fame standard, well, you know, Kyle Tucker fit in where you get in and you will and, you know, don't worry about it. For the Blue Jays, I guess that's, it would just be interesting if he gets paid, you know, the kind of money he's been rumored for that then we start talking about, you know, Vladian Kyle Tucker, like, are they viewed as the righty, lefty bash bros for years to come? I don't know.

And I don't, again, with all of this, the overhang is if you perform, pretty much everything goes away. I truly think from what kind of like what I've heard. and some of the stuff I've read online. I'm thinking, Jake, that you're talking about the years might not get there. And that means that we might see a high AAV short contract come

because I think he might prefer that too. Not everybody wants to play seven more years, ten more years, whatever the hell it is. Some guys are built like that. Some guys aren't. And that's okay. If you're Kyle Tucker and you say,

I can make $120 million for the next three years, like that sounds pretty good to me. And there's a couple teams, Jake, the Dodgers. They're like, they're 100% willing to do that. Right. So like that's, it sounds crazy to throw everybody on the Dodgers. You know, we know the payroll.

We know what they're committed to just the luxury tax in general. They don't care. They're winning ships. They got show hay printing money for them. What's, they're printing yen. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. It's the truth.

So it would not surprise me if we do see like a three-year 120, maybe opt-out, seeing the Dodgers care about an opt-out, go ahead and opt-out, big fella. It would not surprise me if we saw something like that. Which is insane. So I do think we have to talk about a little bit. You mentioned the opt-outs and stuff. Hey, Scott Boris in the short-term deal crew

continues to look pretty good. Rodon, Snell, Chapman, Alonzo, Regman, Cody Bellinger, seeming like he's about to do pretty well on that. That, man, those, again, I'm starting to like those more and more that, hey, if you're, again, if you're Kyle Tucker, who knows what's being thrown out there right now. And I guess we'll see coming up, but like, man, those opt-out ones, because think about what I just said,

Kyle Tucker seems to have a ceiling that is different than some of these other baseball players. Because he, like the Kyle Tucker eight-war season can happen. If he plays 162 and he just has one of those years, okay, dude, that would be a fantastic time if you had that opt-out button instead of us saying, like, will it, is Kyle Tucker going to have that big boy season? If he does, it's there for you.

That being said, he could also say, like, I deserve pretty good guaranteed money. And it's what does he want? Does he want years? What offers is he getting? That, yeah, interesting. It is. And I think a lot of times, you know, we go back and forth about, you know, paying a player for what he's done or paying a player for what he's going to do. That's always like the conundrum, you know, these long-term deals.

You kind of know, you kind of know at the end, They're not going to, they're not going to, you're not going to get value at the end of these deals, especially if you're talking like the ones like Cabrera, Pujols, you know, age catches everybody, except for me. So what was I going to say? The father time's never going to get you. I think that's what you're going to say. You know, baseball players, you know, for a long time, you have no choice about where you're going.

You get drafted by an organization. You could be in that organization for 12 years and I have a. choice about it. So and then your salary before free agency is dictated by comps. So it's like it's a weird thing where you know, we're just taught you got to maximize value because you were probably getting paid under your value before a free agency. So now you kind of have to like flip it the other way that way. I don't really want to get into that. Nobody wants to hear about baseball salaries and stuff like that. But that's why guys try to maximize it so much. And that's why, you know, teams have for a long time paid for kind of what you've done. Right. Because that's that was the agent's sticking point.

But I think teams are trying to get out of that. Yeah. And there's been this like kind of like stare down like with agents and with players like, all right, well like we do we want to pay you for the next three or four years. We don't want to pay you for that six, seventh year where we know you're not going to be in your prime. But a lot of times that's what it takes to get the job done. Yeah. And again, it could turn into a win. Like you said, I mean, you know, life can throw a lot at you. Hey, welcome to the Jake and Trev show about life. You know, we've talked about Breggman just seems like a baseball rat. It feels like we're going to be doing talking baseball, you know, 232,

and we'll be talking about Breggie and all that. What if not? Like, what if the Cubbies win two titles and his body starts going on him? And he's just like, hey, this was, I had a blast. I had a blast that I don't know. Is he an opt out of the last three years of his contract? No, I'm saying in comparison to him signing an eight-year, um,

$25 million a year deal, he, you know, the AVs in the shorter years keep going up. Like that, that can be a win for guys that, it's going to be interesting to see kind of this evolution of baseball contracts because,

you know, some of those 10, 12, 13 year contracts, um, yeah, a lot of them, a lot of them leave a back half that kind of leaves the player in a weird spot. It does.

You know, like, again, Miguel Cabrera is kind of good with every day he's Miguel Cabrera, but some of those final Tiger seasons, it was like, we need more Miguel Cabrera. We don't hear about him. Yeah, because guess what's in his basement, whatever he wants. I love me some Miguel Cabrera. I truly, truly do. Like, the only night. Have we seen Miguel Cabrera since he's retired?

He was doing some coaching maybe. Like in the winter leagues? What is Miguel Cabrera doing? I type in that into Google. Before Show Hay, because I think people would come out to see Show Hey hit every once in a while. Before Show Hay, literally the teams would come out to watch Miguel Cabrera take BP. The opposing team would come out early for stretch if you're on the road to go see Miguel Cabrera take BP. Miguel Cabrera, staying deeply involved in baseball as a special assistant for Detroit.

And he will serve as the hitting coach for Team Venezuela in the 2026 World Baseball Classic. Who's covering Venezuela for us? Is it Shelfy? I think Shelfi's got Venezuela. Yeah. Selfie and Miguel Cabrera, that isn't a week. That's a lot of power. That's a lot of power.

I'd like to be at that dinner. Nothing safe. And yeah, Trev Trev Teasel. We're going to be covering, cover in the WBC. We're going to be talking about them birds. Oh, oh, no. Oh, goodness. No birds.

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Minimum odds required. Four additional terms and responsible gaming resources, see dkng.com slash audio. Limited time offer. So the full trade was Edward Cabrera, who we talked about a little bit there. For Owen Casey, Cubs number one prospect, top 50 prospect, two other prospects, Christian Hernandez and Eduardo de Leon, some nice minor league stolen base numbers.

Basically, Owen Casey's the big piece. He's a legitimate prospect. Again, he's in the past couple years, it's been talked about with this Cubs log jam in the outfield that they've had at the major league level, that this is a guy that probably could have earned opportunities or playing time elsewhere, that they have decided to bring Edward Cabrera in for everything we talked about, the value of a starting pitcher. They're moving him out, and he should be in the middle of the Marlins lineup.

That, yeah, I guess some other Edward Cabrera thoughts before we do send this to the fish. I am interested, there's some home and road splits, and we have the numbers from last year up here, 272 at home, 4, 6, 3 on the road. I did go into it. It's through his career. So I don't know. I don't know if that's mound.

I don't know if that's randomness. It's still not a crazy career due to injury and him being a young baseball player. Yeah, I guess performance-wise, I don't. I think Edward Cabrera is talented. I think the Cubs have a pretty good pitching track record that, for him, it feels like it's going to come down to health. and for the Marlins, I mean, in a way,

they're cashing in on this piece at the right time that he did just have his best full season, that who knows what we're going to be saying in a couple years about Edward Cabrera, either performance-wise or pitching-wise, and they get what hopes to be a staple in their lineup, but yeah, a little pressure on Owen Casey to be a guy. We talked about the repertoire for Cabrera

completely full. flipped from 2024 to 2025. We saw five pitches over 13% for him, which you know I love that. Oh, you don't. Changeup was dominant. He threw that the most at 25.8%. The curveball came right in after that. That was a great pitch for him last year. And then again, I talked about the sinker went up from, let's see, in 2024 from 9.5% all the up to 20%. And the four scene fell from 27% to 13%. So they were mixing a match and trying to figure it out. I'm curious what that means like for the Cubs.

When they get them in the lab, what are they going to do with him? I think that's something to watch early on in the season, maybe even in spring training. Like what's he focusing on? I'm sure there'll be reports about arm angle and kind of pitch mix and what they think. So if you're interested in that type of stuff, like this is a great case study for it, talent, and let's see what the different organization can,

do. I think we're around the league. You kind of know if like can your team make pitchers better and the teams that can make pitchers better, they have such the advantage man. Like the Mets are pretty good at it. We'll see what the Cubs can do. But that's that's a cheat code

right now in our game that if your organization can exploit it, you're just levels above everybody else. Yeah, and I think the, I mean, man, I think the real fun thing has to be like is the fastball, if you're looking at pitches,

like four seamer and sinker kind of got hit, but Velo-wise, we're at 97, like we're touching 99 that it, you know, I think we just showed a change-up that was 96. Like the arm talent this guy has, and that, you know, it almost becomes like a Tommy Canely type joke. Like, I don't know. Could we just make that change-up the fastball? Like, that used to be a pretty, pretty damn good fastball for a lot of people.

Very interesting to see what the Cubs look at when they see that. And again, like we talked about, they're options in the rotation. It feels like they're going to find four to five guys that are going to click throughout the season. On the Miami side, unfortunately, this has kind of been the tale of their franchise that feels like going back from the start,

that, okay, they're cashing in on a guy that we just talked about so optimistically that if he builds, off last year and he throws 170 innings and he strikes out more than a guy in an inning, this guy probably gets Sye Young votes. They move on from him. They still have a rotation

with upside, which that has been part of the Marlins franchise story. And hey man, in baseball, we talk about a lot of times it takes your young players figuring it out and getting better. There is a young core forming in Miami.

It's just what is the potential. What can Kyle Stowers be as a building block? Can Owen Casey join him as something? I, you know, the minor league numbers are great. The show's different. He got a cup of coffee last year and 12 tough games. I'm not going to judge him off of that. And we just never know. Like, I've seen that swing before and I like it. And his player comp is kind of like Kyle Tucker, which is kind of funny in this whole grand scheme. I also saw a player comp to like Joey. Gallo, which, hey, in a way, I mean, Joey Gallo used to be insane, but it just shows once you get to the major league level, we don't know until we know.

But I saw Augustine Ramirez swing a pretty bad last year, Stowers, Jacob Marcy, Edwards, that I don't know where you can truly project the Marlins to be in an NL East that has kind of powerhouse teams. But I guess they won 79 games last year, and 84 gets you in the United States. the playoffs that if they click on this trade, they might have like a middle of the lineup, which we never say that about Miami. Well, they have a great outfield core,

like what Jacob Marcy did last year, you talked about Stowers. Now if Casey can kind of figure it out. The swing right there looks a lot like Bellinger. And, you know, the minor league statistics for Casey are great as far as just like overall slash line. He does have some swing and miss there. In the minor leagues,

it was about a one to two ratio, which, you know, you hope it's a little bit better in the minor leagues because it is going to get more difficult as you get to the big leagues. But again, this is approach type stuff. Maybe, I mean, when I look at that swing right away, he's so tall and dips down. And so you're getting a little bit of head movement there. It looks like he's like a little late with everything too. So like all these things that maybe fix up and clean up some of the mechanics.

Like maybe that changes. And then, you know, you start to see big league pitching and yeah, is it great? Sure. but you're also, then we always get, we forget, like, pitchers are great,

hitters are also great, and they can make adjustments. And like, you know, like these are world class guys too. It's not like pitching is just always going to dominate all the time. If he makes some adjustments there

and kind of gets that contact rate up and some of the swing misses up down, like the bat path is great. He's got, yeah, he's got obviously a real chance to be, you know, like you said,

a middle of the order bat for the market. You're right. Like I look at the Marlins lineup and like, yeah, there's a lot of guys that are a lot of fun there. And, you know, whatever Xavier Edwards did last year. You know, you know my guy Augustine Ramirez is going to hit the ball. The final place from the player, I guess you don't really. Just hit the ball. Just be a slugger. The rest of the team and kind of, you know, you mentioned the rotation. Like there's potential there. There's still some guys. Obviously, Sandy doing his thing. But the guys behind him, too, like there's potential. I think that's like obviously the word for them. They are a young kind of upstart team that got some things done last year. They're still obviously the prove it phase for me. Right. And like, and like, so to me, what does that mean?

You go out and you have a good first half. Like, is there a chance you add? Like, you sure hope so if you're a Marlin's fan. Like, what else is it all about then? Right. It's not just about getting these guys playing time for 2027, getting some dirt on, their spikes and some experience. Like if you're in the fold, like are there moves to be made? I mean, do you see Marlins doing that? To me, not yet, but I don't, I don't know why.

Like, why are they in that? No. You mentioned they, how many games they win last year? 83. Seventy-nine. 79. 79. Mets won 83 and they were like a game out of the postseason. That's right. 83, okay. 83 was like playoff in the national league last year. You're around it. There's a lot of young talent. It's, you know, You know, Trev is, you know, I remember, you know, when we first locked horns and it was like, you know, what do you not want to see on the mound? And you were kind of like, hey, if I see an average right wighty out there, I'm ready. I'm going to do my business. You're 6-3 from Iowa.

You throw fastball, slide, or change up? Yeah, bring it. Well, Trev, let me know when you start off the series with Sandy and Yuri. Yeah. Like, that's a nightmare for a righty hitter. And then... Give me Max Meyer. Hey.

Did I just... Did I just... Did I just describe Max Meyer? Max Meyer's got a little more in the chamber in that. They're like, hey, following them in the rotation right now, you got Ryan Weathers, who's 26 years old. He was the seventh pick in the draft. Max Meyer was the third pick in the draft.

And Braxton Garrett was the seven pick in the draft. So, like, this team has potential that you hope for in baseball. It's just, again, it ends up being a shame that I wish, you know, I wish we could be like, hey, are the Marlins in on Bo Bichet? I'd love him in their lineup. They obviously don't operate that way in that makes me a little sad. I just noticed that on fan graphs, when they do like the overall stats, they usually have hitting, starting pitchers and meet pitchers.

They have fielding now. Wow. Love that for us. Look at us getting informed on the fly. It frame, arm, OAA, DRS, and then like an overall d'clock. defensive. Fielding and positional adjustment combined.

Okay. Okay. Sure. I'm going to ask Tommy Pham about that. I love Tommy Pham. I just... Jake, for everyone that doesn't know, how could you, unless you're in my DMs breaking into my Instagram,

Jake sends me Tommy Fam posts all the time. He uses Instagram like a real person. He uses Instagram like Tommy. He throws some likes around on stuff that I'm like, whoa. But Tommy Fam's doing it. And Trev, you're going to, De Leon played in the Arizona Complex League last year, 276, 353, 500. 18-year-old corner infielder, your thoughts.

Can't wait to see him in the show, baby. De Leon. Routing for him. We are rooting for him. That's not our lane. Not our lane. No. Not our lane.

I tell you what is our lame, a little bit of drama. Because this whole time, we kind of haven't talked socks, kid. Yeah, we got to get into it. Our guy, Carrabis is getting a little hot in the streets because Alex Bragman came over. I was going to mention this before. We talked about some of the off-the-field stuff, something that you and him have in common. He bought all the prospect suits last year. you know, mayor, Anthony Campbell, and I think a few others,

that when we were talking about all that off the field, what matters, leadership, blah, blah, blah, what that really is. Man, oh man, these Red Sox preached about Alex Bregman, and he was texting at 2 a.m. about hitting and, you know, putting his arm around all these young ballplayers and, you know, Cora's guy. And, okay, this is, we traded Raphael Devers, one of the most pure, talented hitters I've ever seen on a baseball field,

but straight drama formed. Like we talked about it. The owner was flying out to Kansas City to have a meeting and, like, feelings and emotions were getting in the way of baseball that they traded away, Rafael Devers. And they kind of hid behind the shadow of Alex Breggman's, this is the way. And now it's not the way that, boy,

are their next couple weeks of free agency and trades a lot more under the microscope than where they were before? Yeah, I think you got to start with Devers, because that, I mean, people probably need a little refresh on that, not if you're a Red Sox fan, but you have the guy, you sign into the massive deal, he's the face of your franchise, he's, I mean, obviously just a world-class hitter.

You could talk about maybe some defensive stuff at their base, but he was your guy, a guy that was going to be there his entire career. Right. And then you signed Bregman without kind of like talking to him, which, you know, like I think, I don't know exactly what I said at the time, but I got to imagine I said something like,

you know, you don't necessarily have to run things by your roster, but a guy like a Devers, you signed to that long-term deal, you sign a guy that plays the same position, like you probably should have like had some words with him, but they didn't. that was when the drama started. It was

the Devers want to play a different musician. He's like, no, nobody talked to me about it. I need a time to, any time to prepare. He doesn't want to just be a D.H. And all that stuff happened. But at the same time, you're making your team better. You brought an Alex Bregman. You got the

both of these guys in the lineup. You got to love that as a Red Sox fan. The drama kind of like kept going. Bregman said he would, he'd play anywhere. He was saying all the right things in spring training. And they, you know, they kind of like, they were beating around the bush a little bit. Breggman was always going to be the third baseman.

Yes. He was always going to play third base because his defense is so good. That finally it came that he had, the Devers was just going to DH. And I believe, and I haven't looked this up, he started out really poorly, right? Devers? Yes. Like early on, like adjusting to that role and then kind of found his stride and was fine, started bashing the ball around.

But yeah, you end up mid-season trading Raphael. Devers. And you're right. You traded them because you thought you had a cheaper, a better option in Alex Bregman, a guy that was going to be, you know, the leader in the clubhouse and could play defense. It was more of an all-around player. You get rid of, which is a pretty big contract from Devers. And maybe you take that money and you spread it elsewhere. And we're going to be a, we're going to be a better team without Devers. I'm pretty sure Raphael, or not Raphael, excuse me, Alex Cora said that. So there's a, yeah, or was it him or was it Breslo?

I mean, a lot of the drama came out. Like, there's a world where we can be a better team without Raphael Devers. And I think we laughed at that. But then they were. They were, they were. Right, they got hot. They got hot. So, you know, some of the young guys stepped up and, you know, even when Bregman was out, he was helping the team.

But then now, to have Bregman opt out, you lost, you lost a draft pick for siding Bregman. you don't sign him back, you don't have Raphael Devers. It truly looks like a disaster. And from what I've read, and again, we're not in these conversations. The money was a little bit less. And the reason that Bregman really went with the Cubs offer is because they were offering him a full no trade clause. And the Red Sox are organizationally against no trade clauses. There are some times where you've got to make a stand sure, this ain't.

one of them. What are we doing here? And why? Like, okay, so, you know. That's, hey, I'm not going to say he's a pitcher, but he's a pitcher. Oh. Whoa. Damn, real nasty.

I guess. It's honestly, worst case scenario for the Red Sox. Of all, all this ended up, worst case scenario. And that's, so, okay, Buster only, who I, you know, I trust Buster only. The Red Sox, he tweeted the Red Sox believed they were going to Land Bregman with the five-year $165 million offer. They said real, he said real disappointment in the Red Sox organization today. Well, two things.

The no trade, if that is something that matters to Alex Breggman. And we're talking five years. We're talking five years. This isn't, like, everything we just did with the old MLB contracts and, oh, watch out for those final six years of the contract. No, this is the length of it. It's a five-year deal. Like, and you're right. And you're going to live.

And by the way, where's the trust here? Like, Alex Breggman just saw you trade Raphael Devers, who had been with the organization forever, who has a World Series ring, who had the big contract. Like, yeah, he should want the no trade clause. if that is very important to him starting a family. So that part is just blind and kind of like off. It's just off from like an organization trust standpoint. Like, hey, we're the front office. We don't give you the players no trade clauses.

Okay, cool. Then I don't have to be here. Also, everybody has a no trade clause. Like, that's part of, if you are a player of Alex Braggman's caliber, and you make it to free agency, you kind of earn that. And also, like, we've talked about this. Okay, let's say,

who knows what situation happens. But, you know, in three years, either Alex Bregman doesn't want to be there or the Red Sox don't want Alex Bregman, you can still figure it out. Hey, where do you want to go, Palo? Like, like, a no trade clause isn't the end of the world. And, like, you've even talked about you could put kickers in there and stuff

that make it. Hey, yeah, yes, yes, yes. So the no trade clause is obnoxious and, okay, the Patriots way up that the Red Sox are doing now. We don't give no trade clauses. Okay, let me know how that continues to go. The thing that's driving me even more nuts is you didn't have the best offer. Why did you think he was going to sign without giving him the best offer and the no trade clause he's demanding? That's 0 for two.

I also forgot that the Red Sox lost to the Yankees and the wild card. I mean, what a disaster of a time. I've got a couple thoughts. Jaron Duran catches a ball and the Red Sox win, and then the Yankees should be more mad at themselves. I'm mad at both franchises. I'm mad at the Red Sox and the Yankees. It's they had, I think they had a good plan like with Bregman and kind of the direction.

Look, they got some real young talent. Roman Anthony is a guy guy. And like they obviously hit on crochet and like they have they made some moves this off season. I love the Wilson Maturis move. I do. I even love the sunny gray move. Like they've done some things. But this whole situation between Bregman endeavors has been a disaster, especially now.

Like if you resigned Bregman, nailed it. Great. Got your guy. But you didn't. And over a no trade class. And if you want that to be a policy, make it a policy. making a policy again after the next guy's saying, hey, no,

we're actually... New policy. No, I'll be like, hey, I mean, look, we had to do it. And maybe the guy will say, well, can you do it for me? And you say no. You can always say no to a no trade clause. But like, this guy who, like,

you've ranted and raved about for the past six months wants one and, you know, like I said, has fucking earned one. Mm. Mm. Mm. Yeah, I mean, if you look back and you're saying $10 million over five years in a no trade clause kept you apart from the guy that you desperately wanted to be a part of your organization,

that feels flawed. I do want to talk about, okay, what do they do next and how can they save this? Because there's still a couple of free agents out there, although the Red Sox only team that have not signed a free agent. They did get a lot of their work done via trade with Wilson and Sunny. Let's find out who the next factor is with Factor. That's right. If you're trying to eat better, if you're out of time, you're out of energy.

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Kittel Marte, who the dime back said is off the table. The Red Sox were originally linked to him. I guess for me, I didn't even initially jump there because I still, A, we've been hearing the Red Sox are going to trade an outfielder forever, and that still hasn't happened. Right now, Yoshida is listed as a bench piece for them, that we could still see them get some work done there. They have an interesting pitching situation where if they had one more guy,

I think I would really like their pitching staff. They have options between Patrick Sandval coming back, Oviato. I mean, even going back to the Devers trade, like Kyle Harrison's still 24, Connolly early. Like they have options. I guess it depends what Boston wants their goals to be for this season that there's still free agents out there, hitting and pitching or potentially trades to be made.

But they've got to, I guess how can they save it from your perspective? I mean, like Boba Chet would ease a lot of pain. I don't know if that is in the cards for them. I mean, it'll be a longer deal than the, I mean, he's looking for, more years because he's younger. So, and maybe he wants a no trade clause. Don't even ask, Bo. Don't even ask.

Red Sox, we're going to sign Bo, Bichette. They had the, what if they gave him a no trade clause? They had the third best offer, but they wouldn't give him the no trade either. If they give Bichet a no trade clause, that's hilarious. It'd be hilarious. I don't see that happening. Yeah. There's still, yeah, there's still trade stuff.

Like, did they just go back to the Cardinals? get Brendan Donovan. God, he looks like a red sock. I also think they kind of have like people like in house. Like maybe you give those guys another chance. My, my babysitter's ex-Fling, Marcelo Meyer, does he get a chance?

Shout out Luca. Christian Campbell. Our guy. Is he a guy? I don't know. He got the contract. So you could just go that route. I mean, that won't make Red Sox. fans happy.

Tell Marte is gone. He's the D-backs forever. Right. No way. I mean, yeah. I mean, look, obviously there's, if you're willing to part with some things, there's, there's people out there. I don't know.

Like, you're not, you're not getting like Nico Horner. And why would you for one year? That's kind of like not what they're trying to do here. And Cubs, they shouldn't trade him. I know there's rumors out there, but. Yeah. Trade for Raphael Devers. He's with the Giants.

You've heard of him? If they get Brendan Donovan, that's pretty funny. Heim Blune sending Wilson Contreras, Sunny Gray, and then Brendan Donovan. Double agent, Heim Bloom? My God. I realize this is, you know, generic beard kind of hair leaking out the helmet, but that's Red Sox ball kid. And again, this is where I start. God, I think the Red Sox can put a lineup together.

know what Marcelo mayor is yet I don't know how him and luca are doing but um i i know he can play defense like i i liked that side of it i know they have these kind of platoon guys like what rome gonzalez did last year what nate eaton showed a little bit that the boston red sox could put a lineup together like i've seen that i'm looking at yoshita on the bench right now like we can figure that out i'm wondering if they audible to like a framber and they say hey we kind of we like our young hitters with Framberg, Crochet and Sunny Gray. Like, that can go toe to toe with anyone, and they can, you know, his contract, is it going to be less than Bregman's?

Is it going to be similar? I don't know. They can still pivot out of this between free agency or another potential trade because that, again, like, I don't know what teams would pay for Jaron Duran, but it should be a ton because he's an amazing outfielder. but then if you're the Red Sox, I want Sharon Duran on my team.

Mets are an interesting trade partner. You know, they are looking for outfield help. They have the young pitching. So you could go that route again. I think that's a baseball savvy move. I would do that if I was the Red Sox. If they could pry one of those young guys from the Mets, I think that's great.

But is that going to appease the fan base? No. And that they will appease the fan base until they go and win this year. It's the only thing that cures. Yeah. Cures that. Yeah. I guess I'm mentally and Red Sox fans let us know.

Like if they do sign Bichette, which you're right, like the logic side of it doesn't make any sense. Like, okay, so you're probably going to pay more money at, you know, second base for Bo Bichet. Again, if that happens, our Red Sox fans like, okay, like, we still brought in an amazing player and that's, that is what it is. or did the Bregman off the field stuff and where this front office has kind of lost the trust of Red Sox fans,

is that not enough, which that also seems kind of crazy? I just thought of something. I don't want to say it out loud, though. Oh, good. I don't think it's happening. Good for the show. What do you think Royce Lewis's trade value is right now? Your guy Royce.

It's low, right? I mean, it's low. It's low. Compared to where he was, just, What, two years ago. When he was homering every playoff at bat, yes, it's lower. All right. You like that, a little green monster.

You could show him where to hit it up there. I think Royce has all the potential in the world. Sure. I don't want that for us for my team. No, I'm glad the twins got brought up, though. I feel like people got to this part of the episode, and they were like, where's Treve with Royce Lewis? Hey, Byron Buxton.

Yeah. He's officially on Team USA. Nice. Who I'll be covering for the WBC. We're going to have a lot of great content there. Do you go PCH or PCH? That's a highway from Malibu. Do you go PCA or Buck to start?

I think you can righty lefty it. I think. I think Buck has like similar splits. Yeah, but I, well, age wins. Like that's just a fact. Also early on like you treat this dream team style that like I don't know, PCA can come in the sixth inning. And like, this is also pseudo spring training time that.

Is he a better defender than Byron Buxton? I think so just with getting Judge's ass out of there late in the game. Okay. Okay. Strong throwing arm on Aaron Judge. You might like that. I love Aaron Judge. And actually I'm really getting into Teacher Man, which is nice.

Yeah. Nice. I love that journey for you. Treve, what else do we need to cover? You know, again, we'll see if there's any news before our Wednesday episode. I guess one of the top dogs fault. Belly seems to be getting to an interesting spot. Tucker kind of does not.

And then haven't really heard anything about Framber or Ranger Suarez. No, not at all. You're totally right. Kind of forgot those guys were even free agents. Yeah, man. Zach Gallin. Zach Gallin. Lucas Gialito.

Eugenio Suarez. Chris Bassett. Chris Bassett. The Bassett Hound. J.T. Romuto. Yeah. That one's an interesting one. What is he doing?

Blue Jays, they're holding the market out. That's what Boris said. Boris. Marcelo Zuna. Louisa Rise. Go to Pittsburgh. When you get a chance going Byron Buxton's baseball savant page and look at the picture, that's just there's no way that could be a positive outcome.

This could be a good way to land the plane here. Bob, get it up for me, please. There's no way that could be a positive outcome where the ball is in relation to his swing. That's just... Buxton. Oh. That is the definition of getting sawed off, right?

I mean, I think those are those are wood chips floating through the air, right? Like under the bat? Oh, it could be. Is that that that broke in there in the handle? I mean, that's, what are we doing there? Let's pay some respect to Byron Buxton. God.

Come on, man. Like, if you take the ball out, the swing, okay, but like, don't put the ball right there. And Rob, if you could also, I mean, show, show Byron Buxton's baseball savant page with the actual red, because it is. It's sexy. He still does that. He still does that. Let's see. Trades, I don't know.

Kattel Marte is off the table. First reported by Dalton and the Diamondbacks. Nice job, though. Unless they get a good offer. Scoobel. Are there any trades that have to happen? Like, Edward Cabrera was kind of rumored. I guess McKenzie Gore was in that lane.

If the Nats were to get involved in something. Would it have to happen? I mean, none have to happen. That's kind of the whole thing with trades. Oh, I guess, all right. This is your nightmare. But from the top of our heads right now. I can't wait

What are things that like Have to happen Like do the Dodgers have to sign someone Tucker Bichette They don't have to right no They could trade for Duran Yeah

Take Emmett Sheehan Things that have to happen Hmm The Yankees have to make a move I knew you were going to go there I left that one for you But it's true It's yeah

It's true the Red Sox have to make a move I think the Reds probably have to do something You know we have a gluttony of starting pitching And we kind of need to find some offense To me that makes a lot of sense Like they need to move pitching for offense Okay

That's it that's one for me Let's go what else can I do here Like Orioles, Brents have to do something right Met seemed to figure out their outfield and first base. Right. Yeah. So that's a do something, must do something. Do the Braves have to do anything?

I don't think so. We need to talk about the Braves, man. Fine. Do it. I don't know what we need to talk about. I'm just saying like they just fell off the face of the earth last year. Yeah, I think there were some injuries. I think guys just didn't perform at a high enough level,

but like you look at that roster and it's kind of, Like Spencer Shrider isn't going to be 23 starts to a 4-4-5 this year. Like he might be a Cy Young favorite. Like I think they have some real Hassan Kim at Shortstop. Let's end the show with this. Yes. I get to Chris Rose. Do you have the private jet story?

I do. Okay. I always say I'm going to live until 115 years old. I firmly believe that. And it could be longer. Modern medicine. I don't know. What's AI going to do with doctors?

Are doctors out? Find out next time. Yeah. Subscribe. Flying to Carolina to go watch my Rams play. Carolina, hey, valiant effort. Wow. Clearly a tough matchup for us.

Valiant effort. Yeah. It was a great game. I was surprised by the spread. It's a little disrespectful. I didn't mean that in a sarcastic way. I meant it like a valiant effort. By the way, got noticed a few times for warehouse games.

I've gotten rotten. Nice. fans coming out to me that was pretty cool flying there sitting there it's me jimmy jimmy see a little glass of tequila on the rocks just just sitting there chopping it up all the sudden dude i swear to god fireball out of the sky boom we got struck by lightning whoa on the wing right like i'm sitting here on the window right next to me dude struck by lightning seriously it felt like we got like hit with a missile. Right.

It was insane. I've never had that happen to me. Nothing happened to the plane. I didn't like the computers didn't go down. Nothing went on. We just, we went on like kind of like asked like the flight attendant like, like what's, are we okay? She's like, yeah, just put seat belts on, whatever, whatever.

Get off the plane. Start talking to the pilot. He's like, man, I never had. It's been a long time since I've had one of those. And we're like, dude, was there like lightning in the air? goes there's nothing in the area. It's like a random lightning bolt hit us. So he went down there.

He showed us the wing and there was this indentation on the wing like this big. He goes, you don't worry about the entry point. You worry about the exit point. So it hits the wing. And then you looked on the side of the plane and there was all these like what you'd expect from like a lightning bolt like electrical charge all like all these rivets were like melted. Everything. That's sick.

Plan's out of commission, bro. Really? Plan's out of commission. Different PJ back. He said months. They had to fix it up, whatever it is. But like, if a rogue lightning bolt isn't taking me out. Yeah.

I kind of feel invincible. I kind of feel invincible. I'll, um, wow. Hey, uh, how are the vibes? Was it like a, was everyone like in a little pan? Freaking out. Yeah. Okay.

Freaking out. I was going to say. Um, hey, I know sometimes we attack nerds on this show. I'll give some snaps. Like at some point. At some point, they were like, hey, nerds, figure out if we're flying a plane and it gets struck by lightning, make it so we don't die. And the nerds did a fantastic job. Yeah. So like snaps for them because planes are extremely safe. The plane we could build is not surviving now. No. No. Yeah. Very interesting. Yeah, it was, man, a wild experience. I don't want to, I don't want it to happen again. So we did it. There's...

Hey, there we are. There's... Where'd you get that from? You and Jimmy C. How do you have that picture? Don't worry about it. It's a nice pick. Is that from my phone?

I think it is. Obviously, I took that. You've been hacked. Yeah, I hacked you. I hacked you last night, Treff. Oh, all right. It's a nice time. Wow.

Trev's now panicking. Go Rams. Huge, huge for this show. And it... You got the passing button there, Rob? I know we're about to end it, but Dalt just passed over some news. Hold.

Awesome. Twins hire Michael A. Taylor as an outfield coach, instructor. They loved him when he was there. They loved him. M.A.T., baby. Ladies love Michael. Sneaky tall.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And one of my fit, I think Jimmy did a breakdown of him. And I think he was a national at the time. And national fans weren't happy. Michael A. Taylor, very well liked. Oh, yeah.

Very well liked. Great guy. That's good. Thank you, guys. Good to be back. We'll see if we get some more news before Wednesday. Otherwise, we might have to get our creative hats on. But we won't for long because it's almost February in that spring training, people.

Are the Red Sox the new twins? We share a spring training facility. We're kind of like sad right now. Kind of sad. Are the Red Sox the new twins? Comment below. That's really... Can you say you've been struck by lightning?

I don't think so. And like not even a freaking scratch on. Clean.