Talkin' Baseball (MLB Podcast) - All-Star JM Round Table!
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Hello and welcome to talking baseball.
It's the All-Star Break Roundtable.
We got everyone hopping in.
John Bino, Jimmy Norp, Swilstock, Joe's McFly, Chris Rose.
Let's talk ball.
We're going to tug a lot of ball.
Class.
Who's that?
Noah Schultz.
Pat Burrell.
Grand slam.
Grand slam.
Wow.
Dueling grand slams.
Hello.
and welcome to talking baseball, presenting to you by Fanatics Markets where fans trade on sports.
I am Dr. Professor Jake Storelli.
That is the classy Trevor Plouf, 106, Philly's finest, Bobby Sarachi producing,
and we've got a fun one today.
Hopefully an all-star tradition, because tradition's all it's about.
And we have our first guests.
I think we start rolling it.
The guest.
It's a big guest.
Oh, look at that, dirt.
Boom.
John boy, Jimmy O'Brien.
Can you go back to the two shot of just them, Rob?
This is
Winner's meetings wrapped up.
Which one's the athlete and which one's the front office?
Oh, shit.
This is, this is, this is,
Buster Posey's right-hand man and David Stern's right-hand man.
Come on.
Busser Posey.
How are you feeling right now, boss?
Big deadline for you.
Second worst team in the National League.
Jimmy.
They could trade a lot, but no one wants.
Ooh, I disagree.
Well, for the price.
I got eat tons of money.
Yeah.
And that becomes an ownership thing.
This is nice.
Jim, let's chew through it a little bit because I know, you know, sometimes you're looking
for a form just to get some thoughts out.
First, tell the people maybe two minutes on your Yankees, what you're seeing, what you want
to see.
Go.
Yankees are good because the American League is really bad.
I want to see Max Fried and Judge get healthy.
And then from there, I think they're.
a really good playoff team.
Even if they don't improve that much after that,
maybe can't win the World Series,
but I think they can get the ALCS if Judge and Freed are healthy.
And everyone else stays.
Because that gives you a rotation of Schlitler, Rodon,
or Schlittler, Freed, righty, lefty,
Cole, Rodon, righty, lefty,
which is really good top four.
And I'm talking just getting to the ALCS.
Like, I think they can do that.
They have to win the division, though, because the three-game set screws you up so much, and the rays are good.
So- Are you worried about that?
The rays are four games.
Yeah, I'm worried that the Yankees aren't worried.
Interesting.
They weren't worried last year at all.
And then they started being worried two weeks at the end of the season.
So I'm worried that they're not worried about that.
Because you got, yeah, I mean, if you got a, it's the same thing as last year then.
If they play in the three-game set and beat whatever team gets in, then,
their pitching is not going to be lined up
and they're going to have to go to the trop
and play on turf, just like
they had to do in Toronto and play on turf
where they're not good on turf
and have their pitching
not be organized and not have
home field advantage. It was like played a huge factor.
Maybe we turn Yankee Stadium
into a turf stadium.
You got to talk to Cunningham about that.
What I've realized about your Yanks
and basically almost every single
American League team is that
everybody is flush with starting pitching and nobody has an offense. Seattle, flush with starting
pitching. Boston, flush with starting pitching. The Tigers now all of a sudden have a bevy of
starting pitchers going for them. Their offense is pretty suspect, can be okay. The twins leading
the American League and runs is insane. It's the Dodgers effect. I mean, every free agent signed to
the National League because they got to compete with the Dodgers. I mean, we saw that last,
the two off seasons ago. Every big name signed in the National League.
and the American League is just not doing it.
But where are the hitters?
Where are the hitters right now?
Because if you look at those teams that I just mentioned,
I mean, the Mariners are supposed to have two or three guys
and Naler, Raleigh, Julio, or Randy,
but really it's been Randy a little bit of Julio.
The other guys haven't hit.
Like, I just, it's such a weird year for offense.
Well, maybe the answer's in the question.
The hitters aren't performing because the pitchers are good.
You're saying they're taking.
It's math.
It's not.
Maybe the American.
urgency is in there. The American League pitchers are too good. Or it could be the other way.
I don't know if I believe that. The other problem is I feel like the teams that hit can't pitch at all.
Like your twins have somehow entered the playoff picture. The Houston Astros.
I have a spot right now. In the picture, we're in.
The Houston Astros could hit all year and Yordan's like going to win MVP right now, but they've been so horrific that I think it's just like, are they going to get on track?
And is it even going to be a conversation like that or no?
The only teams that have a full roster in the American League,
I think if you looked across,
starting pitching bullpen and offense is the race,
and sometimes the white socks.
Their bullpen needs some help,
but I think they do have guys there,
but I actually like their starting pitching
probably more than a lot of other people do.
I think they can be a really complete team.
I'm actually, have you guys faced them yet, the Yankees?
Yes.
And what do you think?
The white socks?
Yeah.
Murakami was hurt when we faced them.
And I think we beat them easily.
And Judge was out.
I don't think it was a good representation of what they are.
I remember they threw the ball around like crazy.
Like the Yankees did last year.
And it's a three-game sample.
Davis Martin had his like worst start of the year.
Okay.
That was recent.
Yeah.
Yeah.
The starter.
Yeah, Davis, he was like no one had hit him in the Yankees just clobber him.
So I'd think it's an unfair assessment.
But I mean, and it just goes back to A.L. Versenno, which is one of, like, when we look back at this season, I'll save those kind of questions for Chris Rose.
But when you look back at this season, it's been A.L. Versenal, like, we're talking about the White Sox right now. It's like, could they be the threat?
That's crazy, by the way. And the National League, we're talking about the Dodgers, the Phillies, the Braves, the Brewers. It's just totally different leagues.
If you have the name top three teams in all of baseball, like I'm not even sure you could do it, right? It's like one of those years.
It's not. The Dodgers.
After that, the Braves have been, I think it's the Dodgers and the Brewers and everybody else.
Braves?
They've been struggling as a way.
They've slowed. They're still good.
Their offense is really stuttered without Ronald Coonnier Jr.
So I really think it is Dodgers, Brewers, and everybody else, which is, you know, not what you really expect.
And talk about two teams.
You can make an argument at the top five teams.
If you go Dodgers, Brewers, Cubs, Phillies, Braves versus the Yankees.
No, the rays are better than.
They deserve.
I mean, it's...
The fact that the conversation is kind of shocking.
I'm curious with the...
Yankees get judging feedback.
They're good.
That's a good team.
But they need to trade Deval away.
That's a big must for me.
Because if he's on the team, Boone will use him.
He can't handle pressure.
We celebrated it a lot at the trade deadline.
We didn't know.
People think that clip is awesome
because now we want him off the team,
but we celebrated getting him.
I just knew we were getting a closer.
That is a really hilarious video of you guys.
Oh, dude, we just replaced Devin with Devin.
It's crazy.
The Brewers should take Doval, and he will be absolutely unbelievable for them.
Send us someone.
We talked about it.
The underlying numbers aren't that bad.
Send us Gary.
Send us Gary.
Wow.
Higgie.
Would you do Doval for Gary straight up?
I want Doval out.
I don't need anything back, Treve.
I love that.
He can't.
Twins will take him.
Because Boone will pitch him.
The twins will take him.
Boone uses all of his options all the time.
You guys can have Alex Jackson.
Duval in a big spot would like really, really, really, you can't do it.
Is there anything outside of Yankee land?
Is there anything that has your attention or you're having fun with this baseball season
or what's the, I guess what's the other part of your brain?
I really like watching.
I hope the Marlins keep going.
I really like watching the Marlins.
Peter Bendix.
I like the way the Ray, I like.
Yeah.
I like the way the Ray's Marlins, White Sox.
I hope those teams don't fade out.
And the Brewers, I hope they don't get destroyed.
And the rays have power at the top.
Then they have run creation at the bottom.
The Marlins kind of, it could be wrong,
but they have like run creation the whole way through.
Like not like pop.
Like it's more.
But I like bottom to the lineups that can make things happen.
That's been my talking point all season long.
Because so many times,
especially when I go and I'm broadcasting the games and I see a team,
it's like we went to
to Boston
the bottom
four hitters
five hitters were outs
outs like well that's Yankees
if it's open Nickman
wells
it deflates everything
it's crazy they're not even easy
they're not even hard outs so
so the marlins to your point
Jimmy there's 10 guys
like that are getting actual like
at bats right now
like truly getting at bats
every single one of them has an OPS
100 or OPS plus 100 or above
so they're putting out they're putting out real
major league players.
Joe.
That was Toronto last year.
That was Milwaukee last year.
Yeah, Toronto's not that, by the way.
But Toronto could bang too.
They've been hurt.
People, uh,
counter it.
Kind of.
Like, they've had, they've had,
people missed, Peter's people straw argument or straw man,
the argument where they're like,
you know,
the, like you still can strike out in here.
Like, obviously they just,
you need balance.
You need people to fight in a lineup.
If you have a three true outcome approach,
but you're not providing the one major outcome there of home runs,
then you're awful.
And that's the way Volpe, Wells, and McMahon on the Yankees take at bats.
So when they're not hitting their home runs,
they're providing nothing.
You cannot have those guys at the bottom.
It's awful.
You cannot have some guy that's trying to hit homers
and is empty more often than not.
The twins for all their, look,
I'm happy they are where they're at.
They're one game under 500 going into the.
break. They're in a playoff spot as of today, which is crazy. But their bottom part of their
lineup, they at least put together really good at bats. Like they, it's just really hard because
they don't get paid for that. They, they don't get more money in arbitration for that.
You know what you get though? To be on a freaking big league roster and a chance to get paid.
Kind of. Like Cabrero does it really well, but they still never give them at bats. You're going to
love my stat, it turns out. Do you know I've been building a stat all you?
year. What's the stat? I can't explain it now. It's like way too common. I'm going to do a whole video
on it. But basically, thanks for bringing it up. Well, because I'm excited because I think you're going
to like it. Google, Google George Sistler when you get a chance. You won't come up. I had to
buy the magazine. I had to buy the magazine. We totally glossed over that. Yeah, Trev got got from
an old timers day guy. Mickey Rivers. He's, they, Mickey Rivers gets brought up on a yes
broadcast once a month. Mickey Rivers were stealing two bags at 66 years old. Every old
time. Every old timers day. So we, you know, I came across Bay.
Baseball reference, I like, I want to do a show, but asking Robbie to help me out with this.
And it's my fault, not his.
But I want to go see how many days it takes to find myself on baseball reference.
It's been a thousand days or more already because I go there every single day.
But then I take one person every day and I go into their reference page to look at them just to see who the hell they are.
So I did Mickey Rivers.
And apparently he's like famous.
He is famous.
He's like Reggie Jackson's like right-hand man.
Yeah.
Okay.
But anyway, the stat.
Slugging percentage.
It's like slugging percentage and non-base percentage.
So it's got OPS mixed in there.
But the bases are weighted differently.
But if you ground, if you have a productive out,
so if there's runners on first and second,
you hit a ball to the right side,
you get out at first,
runners move to second and third.
It's not zero.
You get points for that.
And if you hit a single with bases loaded,
you get more points than if you had a single,
with no one on.
So it is situational hitting.
Okay.
And then base running.
If you hit a single and steal,
you get points the same as it getting a double.
I didn't invent it.
I found it in an old article.
Interesting.
So it's basically like buried media.
He's building on it.
And I'm changing some of it.
S plus.
Yeah, that was an original joint venture.
Yeah,
because OPS plus stolen base,
adding to your slugging percentage.
This one's bizarre.
You couldn't take what baseball reference fan graphs, savant, any of them have and back it into this.
So we've had to start just tracking it.
And I've liked it because it's really good as a second stat.
So if two guys have very similar OPSs like McMahon and Cabrero, then you can look at this stat and be like, how are they productive in the right moments?
Are they productive with runners on?
Are they productive?
or hitting productive outs.
And the difference between like those players,
like Wells and McMahon,
Cabiero and Jazz is staggering.
Interesting.
Of like,
okay,
here's how much they're actually providing.
It's actually like a baseball,
like the game of baseball.
The game of baseball.
Because the guy who made it was in,
you wrote it in 1940.
So like if you go first to third,
if you go first to third,
you get,
you get the points for the extra.
Any,
base you grab as a base runner that's more than what the hitter hit so you're on second they hit a single
the batter gets credit for sending you to third but you get credit for third to home because you did that
okay so you're not a rock so guys like jazz and cabiero who are lead to league and stolen bases
provides like you it's more eye-opening how much you provide to your team where like we don't have a
stat that does that okay and coming soon i'll show you a while
I'll walk you through it afterwards.
Any trade deadline thoughts before we kick you out?
I don't want Scoobo to get traded.
If he does get traded, I'd like the Yankees to have him.
But I would be 90%.
I really don't want him to get traded.
And I always like when guys stay on their team.
I'd like the Tigers to, like that's my favorite thing is when you get a franchise player
and you stay there.
It doesn't happen often.
But for baseball, I still like that.
What if he goes to the Brewers, though?
That's cool.
No, he doesn't fit with them.
It's like CC2.0
Everyone's talking about.
They can make Scoobel happen.
Kyle Harrison.
That's not their problem, by the way.
Although,
they don't need pitching.
This is a 75% real and 25% joke.
Or flipped.
The way Scoobles wobbling around the mound scares the hell out of me.
The dude's not walking right.
It's crazy.
I feel like he's always done that.
No.
No.
No, dude.
whack and watch he was really skinny and normal he's not bigger he's gotten bigger but he's always
walked around yeah he's always has that walk yeah he's gotten he's gotten he's gotten a little bigger
i specifically went back and watched old videos because i was sharing the steak with jake and the guys
is he he's not an all-star no okay no missed time yeah i mean i figured that sometimes they still
make the all-star team big audition thanks for having me i you have my time where should we where
should we find you if we want to watch any of your stuff
Warehouse games.
Yes.
Yeah.
Worst team ever,
worst team ever on warehouse.
My hair is throwing me off.
I have the worst.
Your hair?
We collectively have
horrible hair.
This looks like the worst.
This looks like the worst podcast ever.
Look is, I got like a
like spikes.
Let's bring in,
I think we bring in the king.
Didn't we just have the king on?
Well, the king of,
he's asleep.
He fell asleep.
Fell asleep.
There he is.
Ladies and gentlemen, LeBron.
Chris Rose.
Chris Rose.
Godly.
I'm giving you my decision.
Is LeBron coming home?
No.
He's going to Minnesota.
No, he's not going to Minnesota.
Dude, what does LeBron want to do?
Mingle with billionaires.
We've got a bunch from Minnesota.
Hi.
Minnesota.
Hey, Chris.
You want to borrow some glasses from somebody so you fit in?
No, wow.
2020.
It doesn't matter.
Talking baseball today is here.
Oh.
The fashion king just left.
like a shot there. Chris Rose.
Hi. Hey. How is everybody?
This truly is the three-headed monster
right here. Now it's time.
Three guys that just won't
shut the fuck up. Somehow Chris Rose joining.
I've now looked worse.
I think it's the shirt. Look at this hair, right?
This one in particular.
In 23 years, you're going to want to look
like this. Okay.
Not really.
What do we need to... God, the pipes look good right now.
You look great. Dude, last All-Star game, Chris Rose by the pool.
My God.
There was a warehouse games where I thought you were going to die on us soon.
What do you mean? Because I was sweating so much.
We walked back from that like, oh yeah.
Oh, yeah.
And all of your Jess for men gel died because you didn't use like a, oh, hey.
You used like a really like surface level one.
It's incredible.
It was all over your shirt because he was sweating so much.
It was bad.
You're right.
It was, it was mascara.
I think you had a bad.
Your back was bad.
I had a bad bag.
I was like, this guy's going to die.
No, I.
The guardians are playing great ball, Chris.
they did against the Miami Marlins.
That's right.
We took it to the hottest team in baseball since the beginning of June.
When the trade deadline comes, do you even flinch or what?
What do you mean?
Do I flinch?
Like, are you, do you build up hope that they're going to trick?
No.
No, because they're not in the trade deadline special.
I'm not going to ruin anything, but maybe there were a few guardians trades that were thrown around.
And one, I poo pooed quickly.
Thanks for the offer, guys.
No problem.
You don't drink.
I do.
I know what your drink order is. It's not wine.
That's true. It's not.
Yeah, they're just, it's not their ammo anymore.
It's bit pieces, no payroll, and this is the year that they should go for it.
When's hoes are coming back?
Nice.
I have some inside information.
Oh, you're right.
Wow, tell them why. It's fine. It's fine.
I can't tell them why.
Oh, can't tell them.
No, mine, I guess it's not fine.
I have some inside information.
It's a very popular show.
He'll be very excited, is what I can tell you.
Nice. Good tease.
Happening soon.
So is there anything I need to ask you about the guardian?
Like, is it any different?
Do you believe in the pitching?
Like, is there anything?
It's a lot.
It is different, Chris.
I believe they're the only team that had started five starters this year, which is remarkable.
That's healthy rotation.
Healthy rotation and.
Way too left-handed.
My gosh.
No, it's not.
Yes, they are.
It's two.
No.
He jumped to the team.
The lineup.
He jumped to the line up.
Insanely left-handed.
That's the problem.
So that's the problem.
Our type, short and left.
Every guy we bring up this year.
Cooper Engel, short and left.
Khalil Watson, short and left.
Daniel Schneeman already here, short and left.
Stephen Kwan, short and left.
Travis Bezano brought him up this year, short and left.
Can I get fat and right?
Austin Hedges.
But killing it this year.
But not fat, not fat.
Not fat.
Killing it this year.
I like his body.
Do you notice it ever since he got engaged?
No, it's not that.
It's not that.
It's since Josh Naler
told him that he doesn't know how to get the fucking first base.
He took that personal.
Without a GPS, that's right.
He did, and he's killing it.
This is a true question, because I'm very curious.
I haven't been around these guys.
I like, this is your free space.
You and Chris get to play on talking baseball.
Josh Nailer, we just watched the UFC fights last night.
Not great for everyone that tuned in.
I don't know when this is coming out, whatever.
okay sorry Connor i don't know or like whatever uh josh nailer austin hedge is like in a street
fight i don't know who wins that one boo lean nailers lean nails neilers nailer's got a lot of crazy in
them i think austin hedges has a lot of crazy in him as well yeah that's a good one should i
text him yeah ask him who wins no that's it 70 30 naylor interesting so you have wow
you're like that's a heavy nailer lean there that really is i think he's he's
Hedgy gets weird on him sometimes and clips them, but...
Hedgy gets some nice plus money on that.
He's lefty, too.
Isn't Naler like $250?
He's big.
Hedgy's got to be $2.20.
Big 30 pounds.
I'll go higher.
You're going over that?
Yeah.
It's just two big boys.
It is.
Okay, that's where we live.
Go ahead, Chris.
All right, so we have your guardians.
What in the baseball world is getting you excited?
Is it the trade deadline?
Is there a team that's sparking you?
Is it a storyline?
Treve and I talk about this a lot on baseball today that
I love active trade deadlines.
I like trades in the off season more than I like free agent signings.
I just am a huge proponent of it.
I think it gets both fan bases talking.
It's super exciting.
And so it's going to drive me nuts this year when there's 22 GMs that still are like,
well, I think we're still in it.
And I'm worried about the work stoppage and my bots won't let me spend any money.
Shut up.
Wow.
It's enough.
Damn, he's talking to your people.
I know.
I'm serious.
Like, let's go.
Somebody, there's a few people out there that've got to figure out that you have zero chance of winning this thing, even though you're mathematically in it.
And there's a few people that are just kind of like, nah, I don't think so.
Like, go get it.
Go do something.
Do something big.
There are people to be had.
I personally don't think Scoobel's going to move.
I disagree with what Jimmy said.
I think that he stays put in Detroit.
I think they add pieces because I think they're just like, screw it.
We have a Tigers guy coming on soon.
Okay, well.
James Knair.
Yeah, okay.
Hi, James.
I think they're still in it.
I still think they have a chance to win the Central.
And I don't think that any team in the American League is so good, even when Judge returns to the Yankees that I think they're beatable.
Agreed.
That's it.
Jimmy was just talking like when Judge comes back, it's just this magic pill.
Obviously, he's very good.
He's also going to be out for a long time.
And, like, it's not an easy injury to come back from.
Do I think Judge is going to be good?
Yes, 100%.
But I don't think it magically fixes that lineup.
I don't.
No, but it's...
Because, like, we need Ben Rice obviously going again.
Yeah.
They need him.
Who is that?
That's insane.
That's the worst.
That's my 8.45 a.m. wake-up alarm.
Excellent.
Nice.
Excellent.
I think this whole entire Yankees team hinges on, is Ben Rice, will Ben Rice show up?
Like in the playoffs, essentially.
They're going to make the playoffs.
Is Ben Rice going to show up?
Because if not, I think the whole, it's all for not.
There's just, there's a lot, there's a lot of roulette in play.
Because we haven't mentioned Giancarlo Stan, who's been the Yankees best postseason player.
He just got a fresh injury.
How many, how many, what if he's DH?
How many games does he play this?
year. Not a lot. No, he played. Yeah, he started off the year, right? 18. But I'm, again,
it's where we're comparing the American League teams here, where we're talking about Giancarlo
Stan, who has shown in recent postseason what he can do. Cody Bellinger, still on the team.
I love Cody Bellin. Yeah. Ben Rice is, if Ben Rice looked like Giancarlo Stan, we'd talk about him a lot more
on these shows. It's absolutely true. What does it even mean? He looks like one of the Twin Stripe
reporters, which I don't know if you guys are going to get that right first, but he does. Um, like,
I genuinely do.
He has the same numbers.
He has the same numbers as Kurtz.
He has the same numbers as like Yorda.
I think he's legit.
I think he's legit.
We've talked about this.
Late bloomer, love at Dartmouth.
Smart guy.
Nice.
Nice pull.
Here's the deal.
If you are the Yankees raise.
You got everybody.
Not me though.
Yankees raise Red Sox.
Guardians.
Tigers.
Seattle.
Toronto.
and Texas.
What's the question?
You just named off all the teams.
Okay.
No, no, no.
If you're those teams,
step up to the plate.
What do you point now?
I just showed him
Twin Striper Proders.
Come on, you did not.
Yeah.
Ben Rice took a picture with them,
and he jokes.
How do you know who they are?
He jokes.
I just saw them at the ballpark today.
They're nice.
They're good kids.
They're nine-year-old kids?
I know.
Are they nine?
They make a ton of content.
I thought that they were 27.
They were just little people.
These guys are strolling in it.
I did.
I thought they were midgets.
I saw him from a
distance. There they are together. Yes. There they are. He's not one of them. Yes.
That's crazy. That's crazy. That is funny. How do we get here? All right.
Okay. Before I get out of here, did you, uh, Robbie? What was that a question that was building up? You mentioned all the
I said those are all the teams that should go get help. Oh, okay. So I'm leaving on the outside.
Do you mention the twins? No, I didn't mention the twins. I didn't mention the white socks.
Uh, because here's why. It's I think particularly in the same. I think particularly in the same,
in the White Sox.
And since their success came so fast this year that they have to kind of ride it out with
what they've got and then at the end of the year truly evaluate where they're soft spots.
Why?
Because they have so much to fix pitching-wise that I don't think they can get to.
Yes, they do not.
Why does everyone say that?
If you watch these guys fucking throw the ball, they're good.
They're good, in my opinion, against, they had a great run in June where they played a
bunch of really good teams.
Great. You can say, do they need to,
are they like a finished product?
No, obviously, but why does that mean
stand pat at the deadline in the weakest AL
we've ever known?
I know, but I don't think they...
That's insane to say that they're in first.
I think they have to revamp virtually,
not their entire bullpen, but they have to add like
three or four. Two guys.
I think more than that.
Everyone has to do that.
There's two teams that like their bullpen.
You don't even like your bullpen.
pin?
I think it's okay.
I think it's okay.
The White Sox are like seriously one of my like dark horses to
run the table in the playoffs.
They're super fun to watch.
Super fun to watch.
I think their offense is great.
Yeah, that's why.
I think they have enough pitching.
I truly do.
Yeah.
Robbie, before I get out of here, do we do we have those glasses?
Okay, so there's Jake as either Professor Plum and Clue
or Elijah Wood
Frodo
Frodo
Well docking that
So that's me
We know that's you
I've thought that
Ever since you got those dang glasses
That's what I've thought about
I like them
There it is
I think you look good
Every week
On NFL Network
Somebody tweets at me
When did Seth Rogen start working
You did NFL Network
You have the similar
You can go
When you go deep with your voice
Yeah you could kind of Seth
If you want it to
You have an impression
Not the giggle
Huh
You have an impression
I don't have, Seth Rogen.
I'd love to work on it.
You've got to get that, yeah.
I've got to get that.
One more thing out of you because we got a lot of AL there.
I guess NL outside of the Dodgers, is there a team that jumps out to you?
Is it like the Phillies high end?
Yeah, I think.
I don't know how the Phillies can trade for more because I think, first of all,
their bullpen has been pretty atrocious in July and particularly from the left side they're hurting.
Alvarado, Tanner Banks.
Matt Strom, no good.
Okay.
Probably not salt.
Yeah, I think that there's probably some left-handers that could come help them out.
But I mean, look at how much ground they've made up in a short amount of time.
Pitching's been great.
Now, here's the thing.
When they've gotten to October, the bugaboo the last few years has been their inability to lay off pitches outside of the zone.
They've a lot of chase.
And that's, I mean, that's on the guys that are there, really.
They've got to hit homers.
They got to hit homers.
I got a question for you.
Not a question.
You know how we always talk about
what we would do
as when we run our team?
I'm out on lefties.
Lefty relievers.
Oh?
Out on lefty relievers.
Because what do they do usually?
They get lefties out, right?
I want a righty
that gets lefties out.
Okay.
Because then you still have
the right,
and he gets lefties out.
So you're saying a reverse splits guy?
Not a reverse, I want,
well, ideally a both split,
a split-proof guy.
So you would just want a great,
Reliever. Yeah, I was going to say.
Sounds great. Okay, okay. You can work in my front office.
Let's go shopping at the Great Reliever's shop.
You just made Peter Bendix's front office.
I made it. Thank you.
But everyone, okay, two things.
I have a group on. As you guys all wanted to pile on me who's got, you know, just whatever.
40 years in this fucking game, no big deal.
I want.
That's a tight match.
Yeah, it is a tight match.
60 years, 40 years.
Listen.
Listen.
Listen. I am.
I want a guy.
I'd rather have a rightie that gets lefties out and then faces righties than a lefty who can get lefties out than just his dog shit against righties.
So take that, think about it a little bit because it's probably a little bit above everyone's head and go for it.
The numbers could never tell us that.
Okay.
You know what I'm saying.
I do understand it.
What about a lefty?
Okay, this is going to be fun.
A lefty who gets righties out.
Like a lefty has you got a real good change up or splitter or something like that.
In, same, same thing.
It's the same thing.
Same thing.
Okay.
I guess I just want a lot of reverse split guys.
I would take a reverse split guy, but particularly righties, because they're easier to come by, Chris.
I mentioned that five minutes.
No, they're easier to come by.
How many lefty relievers are there in baseball right now?
Are there more than 40 lefty relievers in baseball now?
I'll take the over.
Ooh, fun game.
I would say like 50.
Two per team, no way.
No way.
There's 60.
Yeah?
Yes.
50's got to be close.
No, I think it's over 50.
There's a couple teams with like three or four.
There's a couple teams probably with one that...
There's not many.
The twins have won.
Cody Funderberg.
The model of baseball.
There's teams that have like...
I believe we only have one left in the entire
the pitching spectrum right now.
Yeah, Funderberg.
That's it.
And A.J. Minter when we trade for him.
Little preview to the trade drafts.
Oh!
Little preview for the...
trade drafts.
Oh, you're close.
No, this is on 40 men and 26 men.
Oh, God, come on.
It's tricky.
We're still a step away.
Hey, AI, figure it out.
Jeez.
It can never replace us.
You can't even count you at 100, AI.
I hate how much you like that video.
Chris Rose, where can people see you again?
I don't know.
Yeah.
You've canceled half my shows.
Walking around L.A.
I'll be on the red carpet.
I'll be on the red carpet.
I'll be on the red carpet sweat.
sweating my ass off Tuesday.
I just tried out the fans.
Sam was amazing and got five different fans.
Some of them are those little handheld bullshit, so I'm not using those.
But the ones around the neck?
Really?
Remember I asked on baseball today and some people were like, those things don't work.
I tried them and I was like, you think I'm in.
Really?
So your neck won't be sweating, but the rest of your body.
But that's where it is.
It's the power alleys and it's right here.
I've always been shocked at how many people wear them, but now hearing that, like they must work.
We'll see on Tuesday.
Yeah, I guess we'll find out.
Because the outfit is going to be dope.
And if I was down 17 pounds, for God's sakes,
I wouldn't be able to keep my hands off of me.
Well, that's what we're doing all day tomorrow.
Trash bags.
We're running around Philadelphia, rocky style.
Tune in.
It'll be on Joe's McFly's Instagram.
That's not what we're doing, is it?
No, I don't know.
I don't know.
That's a Sam question.
Joe's, is that what we're doing?
What?
I wasn't listening.
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I want to give Swilly the nod. There's been a lot of Tigers talk, but I feel like we
We need to class things up a little bit.
Whoa.
We've gotten, with Jimmy and Rose, we've gotten a little too far off.
Sarah Wilson.
Yeah.
Come on.
Come on.
Deportes.
First of all, we might have to just compare outfits right now.
Little World Cup.
She's back for the World Cup because her guy couldn't handle the heat.
So that's good.
Well, that's not true.
Not entirely not true.
Third best goal score in the whole tournament.
Not entirely not true.
Yeah, look at the outfits.
Look at this.
Yeah, we got a hard.
that's crazy that's what happened but that's okay that's all I need and look at the
look at the brightness turn please take your seat thank you so much thank you so much
and then there's there's been a lot a lot of guvvy name yeah it's I don't like it
excuse me there was a tough there's govy name if you had to guess what that meant what do you
think that mean there we go good job slowly walks through a door before and Jimmy I
think he was is he was fading a little bit and he looked up
And like the computer was turning on and goes, Sarah.
And Swilly was just like, what?
It was crazy.
Nope.
We're not doing that.
Don't like that.
Not a fan of that.
Let's check the box with your Halo script.
Do we have to?
We don't, but.
I like saying Swill Nation.
Okay.
Yeah, okay.
Swel Vegas is a good one for me.
Who we trading away?
Probably nobody.
Right.
That's really the thing about it.
Good, good call.
Yeah, probably nobody.
New GM.
Speak on that.
New GM, yes.
John Mosell.
formerly the Cardinals GM.
He's made some bad trades.
Whoa.
Well, okay.
The end, the back end of his tenure was not great in St. Louis.
You know, Randy was a Cardinal.
All those outfielders.
Sandy was a Cardinal.
Zach Gallen was a Cardinal.
I think I played against all of those guys in AAA at one point.
Really?
It was the most stacked.
Tyler O'Neill was there.
Yep.
Tyler O'Neill.
That's right.
Jack Flaherty was on that team.
It was insane.
They're Memphis fucking Redbirds.
Luke Boy.
Yeah, they might as well be a big league team.
It was insane.
Hit a couple homers.
Went home.
I hated AAA.
Yeah.
I'm sorry.
Yeah.
I also really hated AAA.
Anyways, back to the Angels.
Yeah.
Sorry about that.
No, it's fine.
But yeah, you know, he wasn't great by Cardinals fan standards in the back part of his.
It was a picture.
Joe's.
You can barely see him in the shot.
side eyes crazy
oh man
but you know
I mean again back to the angels
I don't know
I don't even really know if he's gonna like
do anything and he's in he's interim
who knows if he's gonna
even stay
because of you know
the impending lockout
we don't really know so like great
he's there but I don't
I don't know he's still probably
not going to do anything
I think we have
this is this would be such
a great deadline for us too because we have so many players I feel like that we could really get good
halls for but I just don't I just don't see it happening like who are you talking about debtmers yeah
read debtmers yeah Joe Adele Joe Adele is one which you know I love Joe but I think yeah those two alone
I feel like could really be great I mean read specifically I think you could really get a good
hall for him people talking about him being a potentially bigger package than Terrick school I
I think is a little crazy.
Well, there's one person that said that, I think.
One, I suppose.
He's got two years of control after this.
Yeah.
So there's that aspect.
Yeah, he's got two years of control after this.
Joe has one, I believe.
So, you know.
Oh, Joe also has one.
He's not a free agent yet, huh?
No.
Okay.
No.
No.
I think he has one year left.
You guys had Mickey Moniac on your team.
Remember that?
I do remember that, but nobody,
and it's so interesting,
I never see anybody talking about this.
Don't look at his home in road splits,
because he's great in course.
Yeah.
Not great anywhere else other than in course.
We don't do Mickeymoniac toxicity on this show.
We don't do that.
We're going to keep it moving.
Okay.
So the Halos have had a halo-s season.
Yes.
You're a lover of baseball.
You're lover of sports.
I am.
Go Norway, although it's over.
No, not Norway.
You're more of a Holland fan.
Well.
Well, more of a Holland fan, but I was cheering for Norway because, you know.
And where does he play?
besides that?
I honestly don't know.
Manchester City in the Premier League.
They're good.
They're very good.
Oh, so, okay, interesting.
They're very good.
How do you feel about that?
Are you going to continue to root for that team now?
Well, I haven't publicly decided.
Oh, geez.
But I am trying to pick a Premier League team.
Okay.
But it makes sense.
Go Spurs?
No.
Tottenham?
Are they even, are they get relegated?
Let's jump back to baseball.
It's my team.
That's my team.
So what is keeping you guys?
keeping you going baseball-wise.
You know what?
I mean, if I'm being really honest with you because of the World Cup,
I haven't been as locked in last year.
See, and it's interesting because I was looking back at last year
because I was a lot more locked in on Hela's baseball last year.
We were only two games under 500 at this point going into the All-Star break.
We were playing a lot better baseball,
so it was a lot easier for me to be locked in.
But it's tough right now.
It's tough.
I mean,
the only thing that's really kind of keeping me afloat is the fact that Mike Trout is having a great year.
There are some great, there are some players that are having good seasons.
Zach Netto has been really good.
I thought, I mean, you know, this kind of normally happens, but Colson Montgomery was an all-star stub.
Zach Netto has had very similar, if not better numbers than Colson this year.
Although, what's going on with Zach Netto and I'm forgetting the name right now?
former manager that's like does like pre and post for you guys he's a manager of the Mets for a little bit
oh Bobby Mellon. Why is he talking so much smack about Zach Netto? What happened?
I don't really know so I think Bobby's whole thing was that Zach doesn't uh he he's not presenting
himself in a way that old school baseball fans would probably like um what does that mean like he
doesn't like when he doesn't do well he kind of wear it.
it a little bit and it's kind of like you know put your head put your head down and go to work
what are you doing who do you think you are type i'm i'm team zach i guess i mean if you if you
if you watch zach netto play baseball that's just kind of like who he is as a player and he's a
good ball player so i don't know i i'm never a fan of coaches commentators trying to
suppress a player's playing style i'm not a fan of that so
Fair.
Yeah.
Give me one person that like nobody knows outside of like Angels fans that maybe we should be paying attention.
Hey, he's having a great season actually.
Sure.
I mean, I don't know how much people really know about him.
I think people are talking about him more.
I know you love him.
Wilbert?
Walbert.
Walbert.
You're close.
I know you love him.
Walbert Urania has been awesome for us this year.
He's got like a sub three ERA.
He's fun.
He's super.
young, walks. I mean, he's, he's young. I think he's like 22, 23. So super young,
walks have been a little bit of an issue, but other than that, he's been fantastic.
Lots of life on the fastball. Great change up. Would love to see kind of what he can turn into.
He's been fun to watch. He's a, he's a guy that I don't, I don't miss his starts. So he's fun.
I like him a lot if you guys get ever are playing the halos, because I know you're not going to
turn them on willingly. If he's starting against your team, I would, I would watch. He's fine.
Don't freely tune in.
No, that's fair.
Do you have enough, is there a team that you're like, who's your ride or die for this?
Obviously, you're a Halos fan, so it's not like that.
But like, is it like, whether it's CBA or it's a player or it's the Brewers or a style
of baseball, is there a team that you're looking at and you're like, if they do it,
that's kind of what I'm ruined for.
I mean, it is always fun to root for a team that hasn't been like doing that great in the
past and now they're doing well.
so I think about the White Sox and the Marlins.
I think they're fun.
I mean, again, like, those are teams that have not been great historically as of late,
and now they're doing really, really well.
So they're fun for me to root for.
I don't want to jump on, like, a big bandwagon.
It's fun.
You know what you mean?
Yeah.
One last, like, sort of mean question.
Because I think it's pertinent.
It's not mean.
It's not mean.
It's not mean.
Well, I'll be the judge of that, I suppose.
Are you at all, like, the reception for Mike Trout in the All-Star game,
Philadelphia is going to be fantastic.
Well, yeah.
And people are going to say, choose your next word.
I know.
I know.
I know.
He's said a million times, I'm not waiving my no trade clause.
So then what's the conversation?
Maybe I should stop.
Yeah, that was the gods checking in.
I was saying, Trevor, shut up.
I don't really, I don't think he's going to wave as no trade clause, but like they're going to show him love.
And I guess is that scare you at all?
No.
Okay.
No, absolutely not.
People say this about Byron Buxon, so that's why I don't.
Oh, they do say this about Biron.
A lot of-Burray-Buson.
Shelfy says that about Byron Bucson.
But here's a big.
A lot of that.
A name was named.
A name was named.
Shelfy Cunningham finger.
The name was named.
Shelby wants Miteau or Byron Bucson.
Yeah, but he's been saying Byron Bucson a lot more.
Now the same name has been both of them.
Right.
So for Biron, the scary team is the Braves because he's Georgia boy.
Sure.
And like, hey, man, like, hey, I get Michael Harris is there,
but you move Michael Harris is there.
but you move Michael Harris to left field
and you put Byron and center field.
Yeah.
That'd be a crazy outfield.
Yeah, that'd be nuts.
That'd be nuts.
I don't know.
I'm excited to see the ovation that he gets.
It's obviously grasping in straws.
Philadelphia wants Mike Trout to come home.
Right.
Sort of.
Of course.
I don't know.
It's a little scary.
It's a little scary.
No, it doesn't, it doesn't scare me.
He said so many times that he doesn't want to leave.
Um, so I don't know.
Angels fans, relax.
I'm just, I'm thinking out loud.
No, I think there, I think it's just a really, like, if I'm being really honest and if I'm not holding back as much, it's just a tired, boring conversation.
Like, let's, let's talk about something else.
Only because the games in Philadelphia is the reason I'm asking.
Sure, but this, but this has still been a conversation before the All Star game.
Like, like people have been talking about this for months now because he's been having a much better year this year.
And like to me, as somebody that now like really works in baseball at this capacity,
it's like there's just so many other things that you can talk about when he's been so vocal
from his own mouth that he doesn't want to leave.
Like it's just tired, it's lazy, it's boring.
Like talk about something else.
Anything else.
Boom.
No, no.
Like there's so many other more exciting things you can talk about.
Mark it.
Next time Swilly's on.
Philly and Mike Trout can't be mentioned in the same in the same breath.
Well, another reason I brought it up is Atlanta did a terrible job last year with
Byron Bucks and they didn't really give them a special.
Right.
Oh, nice.
I was worried.
I was like, I don't know, maybe he's like, hey, like this team's good.
I will be interested.
There's going to be someone in the media pit tomorrow that pokes Mike Trout.
Yeah.
Well, of course, he's going to get poked a ton, but they don't know that I'm going to be there.
We don't ever.
We don't ever say that on this show.
We truly do not say Mike Trout is going.
anywhere because he said a million times. I just think it is I'm curious the reaction.
Who gets a big who gets a bigger pop when they get announced? Trevor ploof.
Right.
Kyle Schwerver, Bryce Harper, Mike Trout. Do you think it's the hometown boys or it's Mike Trout?
That's a good question.
That's I'm I'm genuinely curious because Philadelphia fans are nuts.
Nuts.
Yeah, they are nuts. But see, well and I, okay, so last year the Angels played in Philly
and we won that series.
And it was really funny because Trouty's first at bat,
people were going crazy for him.
I don't remember what he did in his first app bat.
His second at bat, he had a home run.
After that, they were booing him the entire time.
Yeah.
Welcome to Philly.
Right.
Well, that's my point.
So, like, I don't, like, I don't know.
It just, it doesn't, it doesn't scare me.
I don't.
I'd be sick of the reverse psychology.
Yeah.
Yeah.
From the get-go.
Okay.
Oh.
Give it a try, guys.
Give it a try.
Why not?
So we can end it.
Sarah.
Stop.
Swilly.
Thank you.
Where do we find you?
I mean, Swilly sports all over, of course.
We're going to be at Meteor Road tomorrow, home run derby tomorrow.
At the watch party.
Of course I brought my glove.
Of course I brought my glove.
I am praying that a ball finds me in the stands because that would be electric.
I need that.
I need that.
So, yeah, I'm sorry that this isn't more of a fun, like.
It's okay.
It sucks.
Okay.
There's only been two people that have caught a ball from our company at the Homer
Derby.
Peter Moyland and Jake Storia.
Yeah, that's right.
You got to be the third.
I got to get in the mix there.
I got to get the.
Zach Campbell.
Dunked on you.
Dunked on me in Colorado.
Yeah.
I was trying to dunk on him.
Right.
The entire time.
Awesome.
And I had a ball coming right at.
me and then I saw this bright flash of yellow and he's just tough he posturized me it's a tough
look yeah it's a tough look can I say can I say one more thing actually so two guests ago
Jimmy O'Brien was sitting here yes and I I clocked this and I thought it was interesting because
people always say this but they don't say it about Mike Trout specifically he sat in the seat
and said I love it when guys get drafted and stay with their organization for their entire career
when they were talking about Terrick Scuba.
And that's what I say all the time.
Isn't that what people like?
Yes.
Right?
That's what people like.
The difference is.
Yes.
What's the difference?
It's the Angels.
Okay.
Organization.
So what?
He hasn't played the playoffs.
He played one game or whatever it was.
One series.
So that's the difference in Mike Trout.
So like I get why Angels fans are upset.
And like it's almost the same with Byron.
He's made the place a couple different times.
Right.
But they just want to see because my Trout, as much as I love Byron,
Buckston, he was the face of baseball for so long. And we just, we, we have not seen him
under the bright lights. That's sad. That is sad. Nobody wants that more than me. I'm saying
that's why nobody, I get it. A comparison I would throw out, Kevin Garnett and basketball was
so good in Minnesota for so long that it just hit a point where they were like, hey, as a franchise,
for sure. You deserve better. Matthew Stafford.
Who?
My best friend.
Your best friend.
He's like, we are?
Hey, Trev, stop saying that.
Right.
Keep saying it.
You're fine.
To find.
We're friendly.
Okay.
That's the last time we do that.
More Erling Holland content and more
more of those Swilly shorts.
Lock it in.
Okay.
Everyone go follow Swilly.
And we'll see you here next time and we won't talk.
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When you really look at us. Okay, great much younger sister our parents had a big gap
Big gap. I'm all right. I'm leaving now. Thanks swillers
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Warehouse, go tea enthusiast? What's going on there, pal? Yeah, I get a lot
of comments about it so far this week. A lot of people are out as am I, so
probably got to change that up when we get home.
Go ahead, Swill Nation. Go ahead, Swill Stock.
Jimmy, it's Tigers.
Chris Rose is talking about him.
James O'Brien is talking about them.
Scoobled, they're hot.
Eight and two in the last 10th still? Did that change today?
Just lost two or three to Philly.
Okay.
What a...
Give me everything. Dump it.
Yeah, how long do we got?
I'll try to keep it quick here.
But, like, yeah, Tigers, I think best record in baseball since June 1st.
It's been a wild, wild kind of couple of months here.
You started as bad as you did, but the thing I'm always saying is,
when you look at the beginning of the year, the tigers were supposed to be great.
They were supposed to kind of run away with the AL Central.
I still think the AL so bad that this is going to sound nuts.
I think the tigers are the second best team in the American League.
Here we go.
Here we go.
I will go Yankees went healthy.
And then when the Tigers are healthy, when the Tigers are healthy,
second best team in the Air.
You went Yankees won and then Tigers and just completely...
I'm going to need more wine.
Who do I tell?
The Razor out?
Ryan, can you get more wine?
So when the Tigers were bad, their whole team died at the same time.
You lost your starting center fielder, Parker Meadows, who's still out.
Javier Baez, Glaver Torres.
That's a big part of your offense right there.
You lost your entire pitching stand.
Scoobled down, lies down, clarity down.
But now they're all back.
Troy Melton comes back, which when I first got hired at this company,
one of like my bold takes was that Troy Melton
was eventually going to become one of the better pitchers in baseball.
And a lot of people kind of laughed at me.
No, that's crazy.
Troy Melton's been fantastic.
And now he's like kind of the man.
Troy Melton's been fantastic.
You get points for that.
And then as a Tigers fan, let me ask you guys something.
Okay.
And the last 10 trade deadlines,
do you know how many times the Tigers have bought as a team?
You know, you'd be surprised to hear I don't have that on me.
Yeah, right.
The last 10 trade deadlines are they were horrific for,
eight years.
Sure.
I'm not saying
they were wrong to sell.
They were right.
They bought once.
I was saying last year they didn't buy.
They bought last year.
Who did they buy?
Exactly.
They brought Charlie Martin.
The Saltman.
Who finished the season
with the Atlanta Braves.
And then Chris Paddock.
From my twins.
And he was great for us
until he wasn't.
So I think just
That's the only time
you guys have bought in a decade.
Yeah.
And in my opinion,
I think the best part
of a baseball season outside of the playoffs is the trade deadline. That's the most exciting time to
be a fan. So as a Tigers fan, it's been so frustrating and so annoying for 10 years to see you
trading away your favorite players, being out of it every deadline instead of going for it.
And obviously, there's been a lot of talk. I heard you guys talk a lot about Scoob and what they
should do. I think it's crazy not to hang on to them. I think you go to the fan base.
I think you still have such a good chance.
They weren't going to, by the way, until they went on this. Is there any reaction to the next
couple weeks. Because, dude, if they come out of the break and they throw up a three and seven,
it's over. For sure. Okay. I think it... No, three, dude, this A.O. is so close. How far back
we're from the twins now, game and a half? We were two and a half back of the division coming
into today. Yes, I'm saying. They're all, they're a game and a half out of the wild card right now.
Hell of us. But I think... 500 ball is under 500 right now. It gets you in the playoffs.
Which is wild, but true. So I'm not, I'm not ruling a three is three and seven's not.
They're not trading Scoobel.
They are not trading him.
Yeah.
Now, I will say the counter argument, which a lot of Tigers fans have talked to me about,
and I kind of agree, you kind of look back with the Angels and show Hal Tani.
Yes.
And when they went for it, it set them back.
They've been terrible ever since.
A junior Camerre.
Yeah, they could have got Junior Camerro.
A junior Camerro.
That's a game changer.
Like, if you hang on to Scoobel, you better make the playoffs and you better make it a nice room.
But I just think as a Tigers fan, and if I'm in the Tigers,
I'm the guy calling the shots
like I think you owe the fan base
one more run with Scoobel
This is the way I think about it
I said the same thing with Latani
Could you have gotten
Junior Cameronow? Sure, at the time you don't know
A majority of those trades
There's not a Junior Camerano
in that's true
I think you were like you're saying
You want to see Scouble there
You've ever bought at the trade deadline
Except for Charlie Moore and Chris Paddock
You give the fans man
and you give them their ace to make a run.
That, to me, is worth more than if you,
even if you got a major league player
that suits up for six years,
I just don't think it compares.
You got the draft for that, dude.
Like, go draft well.
Like, one player, you know, out of 10 trades is,
or probably less than that,
is a junior Camerre,
or a Fernando Tatis Jr.
And all these things that we,
you know, those are the scary moments.
But dude, I think when we run our team, I ain't trading.
I'm not trading.
I will be trading then.
Because one of us is going to have to.
Our relievers were gone.
See you.
Relievers gone.
See you.
We're in on that.
And we're going to have our reverse splits.
If we're in this situation, Jake.
I actually like it, that all of our relievers are reverse splits and everyone's like
fucked up.
Yeah.
I like that.
And they keep pinch hitting the wrong way.
We got them.
They do that still.
I got a quick, dumb one for you before I go back to James.
Junior Caminero, because he was a prospect I heard about, I did a, on Wake and Jake,
I did a show with Foolish Bailey before the trade deadline.
He mentioned Junior Camerero as like, this guy's next, blah, blah, blah,
quick riser, he seems like the guy.
How many guys did you play or see in the minor leagues that you saw them and you're like,
oh shit, and then they were that guy?
They were that guy?
Yeah.
I mean, I remember seeing Pedro Alvarez and Justin Smok and thinking these guys were the next coming.
Right.
No, that's a great point.
That's a great point.
Yes, but were they?
Junior Camerrano.
No, they weren't.
Who is Junior Caminero?
Is Junior Caminero Pedro Alvarez in a couple years?
I know Ray's fans don't want to hear that.
Baseball happens quick.
Right.
Like those guys kind of had great careers.
I'm trying to think anybody else off the top of my head.
Jose Iglesias, when I saw him play infield, the mindings, I was like, this guy's different.
Glove.
You could just tell.
He still's different to this day.
His like wrist moved differently.
It's incredible.
Yeah, I mean, but on the flip side of that, Mitch Enertson, my first year, my first year,
the Appie League.
In however many games you play, 60-something games, had 30 homers.
David Winfrey, still a friend of mine, was the low-A, like MVP, this guy like 30 and 100,
and like it didn't work out for him.
Like there's a lot of these guys that you see, whether it's injuries or just don't get
the opportunity, it's so hard.
I think it's getting easier now for these guys because of the Trackman 3.
Our scouting's getting a little better.
Scouting is a little bit better, but I don't know.
I get it.
That was the answer I wanted.
So what are the Tigers adding?
If Jimmy Norps in the GM's room.
So funny enough, I think the bullpen has been obviously the weak part of the team,
which coming into the season I thought was the strength.
I would have ranked it bullpen starting pitch and offense.
I think the bullpen's been the worst, which has been shocking.
I would like another right-handed bat as well.
Everyone had get in line, bro.
Yeah, but you guys talked about this too.
Earlier, you said offenses that have those deep lineups are nice.
Tigers' offense, like one through five, one through four.
I think you can put it up there with a lot of teams in American League, but it falls off heavy.
Now, again, Blaber is going to come back.
That helps.
That helps.
Javier's, as much as me and that guy have had our battles as he's been a Tigers fan,
in the Tigers organization, he will help lengthen this lineup as well.
So I think we need a right-handed bat.
Starting pitching is obviously good.
And going back to, like, guys coming back off the IL, you talk about rattling off wins,
you start noticing, you go like scubal, K.C.
Myis has been unbelievable.
You go melting.
The rotation's back.
Valdez has started to turn it around after his like so-so start.
And even Jack Flaherty, your guy.
He's had a couple good starts.
They have five years.
All the sudden, it's like, all the sudden that you go from.
Don't forget my guy.
You didn't say him.
Catermont, thank you.
Who they moved to the bullpen, which strengthens the bullpen.
But if they need to start, where are they going?
But I'm just saying like, again, you go through that.
There was a stretch of Tigers baseball when it was ugly.
It was like you never feel like you're going to win because we didn't have those starting
pitching and you're throwing out.
You're going bullpen games.
And the bullpen's not good.
So now you're going, bad bullpen.
bullpen in a bullpen game. You really feel bad. Now all five days, you feel like you're
going to win because everybody's throwing the ball fantastic. Bobbo, get the picture up. Do you know when
the Mets did like their photo shoot with all their starting pictures, Noah's in their guard?
They did one of those. When Framber signed in spring training.
Wasn't it? And it was like all these guys together. And then everyone's hurt.
Everyone died. But now everyone's back. And that picture makes more sense.
Is Verlander?
No, I really know.
I really know.
He had a, he saw he's hurt, but he had like a hamstra.
Tread played against him.
Yeah, he made the one star.
He was supposed to come back and then literally like the day before that start they
This is the pick.
Yeah.
Where's cater at?
Four out of five were hurt at one point.
I remember that.
Yeah.
And the other one.
Okay.
Date your daughter.
I'm a...
You're gonna answer that anymore.
I can't.
Date my daughter.
I think Casey Meyes is probably a nice guy.
Casey Meyes looks like a firm handshake.
Seems like a good.
Yeah, I feel like I could like
manipulate Casey Mayes.
The rest of them are alfus.
I can manipulate Casey,
no, that's so far enough.
You're out alphaed by that whole crew.
Terrick Scouble, I also think is a very nice individual.
And I think he actually respects me,
so maybe I'm going Terrick Scoobal.
I don't think he respects you, but I think he's a nice guy.
You know what I say?
Okay, I'll give you an example.
Jimmy Nor.
That's a good point.
Last year, red carpet.
I do, I always say, hey, Trevor Pluth,
because I don't know if anybody knows for the heck of him anymore.
He goes, of course I know.
you are nice so he respects me he made a sick story he didn't know double breasted with nothing underneath
last year scoops was rocking yeah yeah yeah he's kind of that guy yes adly rushman relax
take a look at your outfit or what if adly runs it back with that white shirt i would really
respect that i would really respect that and now we're just a talk show yeah can we talk about it's
just talk it's just talking about it's just talking about the adly rushman shirt please you're on it because you're the
best. What I didn't know, and I don't think any of us knew. Oh, we should have got that shirt.
Fuck. Is there is a theme they'll give out for the red carpet. Really?
Nobody abides by the theme, but I think Adley went for it because it was rock and roll theme in
Seattle. Wow. And he had like the 80s rocker shirt on. And everybody else just came in regular
clothes and it just made it stand
out even more. This year is 1776.
What? I
I kind of like that though. Like I wish everybody
kind of went for the theme. I think that'd be
sick if everybody did it. It's like
250th anniversary, that whole thing.
He kind of looks like... He went for the rocker.
Yeah, but he also was kind of pulling off like he could be
Captain Jack Sparrow doing that funny
looking run. It's silk. I like it. My outfit's not too
dissimilar for the red carpet, but...
Yeah.
It took him a while to come back from that.
Now he's back.
He's back.
He's going to be in like the most straightforward suit tomorrow.
Scoob will get traded.
How sad are you?
Really sad.
That'll be one of those days where like Kev walks into the office and he puts the phone and I'm like Kev.
I don't need this right now.
I'd be extremely sad.
Hey, if they did not come back and then go on this run, Casey Myers Scoob's gone, both of them.
For sure.
Yeah, people will talk about.
And now are they both qualifying offer guys?
If they empty the chamber, the tigers.
Which again, you get back to the playoffs the last two years.
I know.
I know.
Who knows what's next?
Tied with the Angels.
So like it would suck to be like, oh, your windows open.
Bang.
Just like that.
It's closed.
It's fair.
It would be a brutal feeling.
Because when they got knocked to the playoffs like two years ago, I remember just like how
sad I was, but also how happy that like I could even experience those emotions again.
Right.
Like I didn't experience that since I was 12 years old.
So like you think about that, it's like I'm a die-hard baseball game.
Oh, there you.
Oh.
How old are you?
25.
Jesus.
No, not doing that.
No.
What are you? I know, because you are a ball, nor you do the jam baseball videos. What are you seeing in the NL? I mean, honestly, the NL stacked. I think trade deadline-wise, what I want to see. I think it's, there's not going to be a lot of moves. I think it's going to be a quiet deadline. I would love to see Freddie Peralta go to the Cubs. The Cubs are one team I haven't really heard you guys talk about yet. Because the Brewers are so good and the brewers are always so good, like, Cubs have a really nice roster.
Freddie Peralta's dominated the NL Central before.
I don't want to spoil our trade deadline episode,
but he went somewhere, obviously.
Nice tease.
If you combine your facial hair with my facial hair,
we'd have a full goatee.
How sick with that people?
That's pretty good.
Instead, you've got a chin strap,
and I have whatever this is.
James?
Talking.
Thank you, my brother.
Where do we see you?
Thank you, my brother.
Jim Warehouse?
You can see me always at JM Warehouse.
Always grinding.
Of course, the games, the challenges that are now on warehouse games.
JM Baseball, Jimmy underscore Norp on Instagram,
and of course, Jim Lincolome on TikTok.
That's right.
God.
It's incredible.
Gets me every time.
Thank you, James.
Thanks, fellas.
Are we doing this?
I think it's time for that funkyunk.
Look at Nick.
Why?
Wait, we're doing another Yankees guy.
It doesn't have to be a lot of Yankees.
I thought we're talking to this guy over here.
Right.
I said he didn't want it.
Right, get over here.
We do both?
No.
The funky unks been on deck.
You're not even ready to go.
What are you talking about?
He's been watching.
He's been watching.
He's not ready to go at all.
Oh, we're doing that.
What are you talking about?
He wants to watch H-O-D
and then go to the party.
Yeah.
Okay.
Don't worry about it.
We got it.
What's going on, y'all?
Joe's McFly.
Ladies and gentlemen, what a treat.
Joe's, you've listened.
You've been listening and kind of in the background of a lot of these conversations.
What has piqued your interest the most and what's peaked your interest the least?
I think the funniest thing to me was you, you know, Swilly's frustrated because of the trout.
And then you guys using the Kevin Garnett example and then saying, you know, at some point you got
to say, well, we got to, you know, we did what we could.
We got to do you a favor because we suck basically as an organization.
It's tough, man.
It's tough.
Angels fans get really mad at that conversation.
And they're like, she said it herself, it's lazy.
And he has come out and said, I'm not waving my no trade clause.
He said that.
So it is still very fun to talk about it.
Yeah.
But only when something like this happens.
when it's like we're in Philly.
He's going to be, they're going to cheer so loud for him.
I just wonder what his career would be like if he only has, like, what, those nine at
bats in the playoffs or six at bats or whatever it is.
There's a lot of guys that never did anything.
I guess, sure.
But I don't know if they're all in the same realm of, like, a trout.
Name some guys who didn't win a World Series, Cowherpkin Jr.
Didn't win, but they play in the playoffs.
On Mattingly.
How many of bats do those guys have?
Barry Larkin.
We can say Dom Manorley.
He went to the playoffs, though, and he made an impact.
For something.
It is.
That's the whole reason, though, is because we didn't think there was going to be anybody that, in our generation,
that would rival Mike Trout on the impact that he had on the kids.
Just the, like, he was, like, our player growing up.
He was the best.
And all of a sudden, Aaron Judge is here.
Shoaheotani is obviously here.
Silva.
And I don't know.
Does Aaron Judge have the stats that overtake Trout?
Like at the end of his career, yeah.
I think if you do that seven-year stuff that they like to do, I think that's pretty.
That's crazy, man.
Church has been really good.
I know he has been.
I know it.
It's crazy to think that because I didn't think anybody was going to.
Trout's awesome, though.
Tartroth was awesome.
And then Shohay's just in a totally different world.
He's a totally different world, man.
Because he's literally completely different.
I look at Trout, like, the way I looked at Griffey for, like, 10 years.
Yeah.
So, like, Griffey in the 90s for the 10 years.
The difference of Griffey is that he killed people everywhere in the playoffs.
You know, like, people were afraid of facing Ken Griffey Jr.
I feel, I talk low when Trout comes to the plate.
Me personally.
I give a golf voice.
Very scared of Mike Trout.
Ken Griffey Jr. terrified me.
seeing him come up to a plate.
What's up other the angels and all those fish names,
but Trout is not as cool as...
Cigreefee Jr. was.
But he is cool.
He's not trying to be cool at all.
I don't know if Griffey tried.
I'm not saying he's a try hard or anything like that.
But, like, Trout hasn't had to do anything,
and all the kids know who he is.
They wear his cleats.
like I don't know
he's like an interesting case study
about like fame and fandom
Griffey was a little bit more pop culture
yeah
than what trout is
swag dude
yeah
so it's different
NBA NFL when they mentioned like
hey who's your favorite athletes growing up
Griffey
like still comes out of guys
Griffey and Jeter still
like that's who do you know as a baseball player
Griffey Jeter right maybe Barry Bonds
yes
Barry.
No, now it's Otani.
Otani's taken over.
By the way, one of the things that I like about All-Star Weekend is shout to all-star
Latinos who are making their names for themselves and are in this All-Star game and
representing big time.
So Christopher Sanchez, a lot of people were anointing a lot of other people for Sa Young.
Guess who's getting the nod tomorrow.
That's cool.
you know, I love the guy.
So he's awesome.
He told me a World Baseball Classic.
He was like that his goal was to win the Sye Young this year and Paul Skeen's
better get ready.
Hell, yeah.
But he did say those words.
But I don't know if he anticipated all of those pitchers to just go off like that.
And I know.
You guys were talking earlier about, oh, maybe the pitching is really good because the hitting,
you know, that's what Jimmy was saying.
The hitting is bad because the pitching is good.
I mean, what's the excuse in the National League?
Right.
Like, the pitching is good.
It's one of the best signs.
They're hitting good.
The NL teams are just so much better.
The NL East has the Braves.
It has the highest scoring offense and all the baseball in the national.
So, yeah, Chris Per Sanchez is an absolute step.
Yes.
And just to see his growth and what he's been doing with that and the change up.
And I've always been a lot of people like, you know, like the yackers.
and the heater.
I've always been a change-up guy.
I love change-up.
Johan Santana made me fall in love with the change-up.
So the Pedro and, like, seeing people just be able to continue doing that.
Because you could get right, these lefties out with that.
I love Christopher Sanchez.
What about Troy Hellixon?
Sure.
Sure.
Someone asked me, like, earlier today, they're like, what's the biggest jump besides, like,
AAA the Big Vies?
I said, well, amateur to pro ball.
The first year you get there.
It's insane to jump.
and one of the reasons is
the Latino dudes
you don't play against them
and man
I have like so much respect
for I mean it's obviously a million
different countries that were grouping into one
but
the level of baseball and we now
it's like everyone knows like all the best
players right now
are Latino man or we have
one Japanese outlier a couple of them
I guess but like it's so
I don't know it's so cool and they're so
damn good at baseball, man.
Yeah, and it's just the way
that they're raised, and
there's two different things, and
we're in World Cup season right now, right?
And a lot of people wonder,
why is it that
the U.S. can't develop
a good soccer team? And it's because
of the way that they have, like, these
farms to build players
internationally for those countries.
That's the same thing with baseball,
a little bit. Now,
soccer's a little bit more paid of play.
here you could just find different ball fields and there's so many more programs here for baseball
but in dominican republic there's literal farms in many different places where people can go and
train same thing with venezuela same thing with like all 30 teams have some sort of imprint
in the country and everybody understands like okay we got to go over there we train and they
start training at 13 i'm afraid of like the cba because they're you're talking about 18 bro and to go to
18, there's
the impactful
age for those kids in those countries
are from that age of
11, 12, 13, 14
where they really have nothing and the lot
gets determined there. And
if you're moving the age back to
18 versus 16, those kids are
getting scouted now later.
Which means they're developing and training
later because teams are going to want to
invest in them later.
So you may lose a lot of kids.
Like you don't get
a Soto
you know people like
Kaminero you don't get
I mean there's a
there's a slew of players
that you just don't get if you just move it back
just at that age
right so
I'm nervous about that
it's just a device if they'll never happen
I hope not I really do
or draft
unfortunately
it's just
it's one of
I don't want to say one of the smaller
negotiating chips but a lot of the
stuff they're about to fight over.
They're treating it that way.
You're right. It shouldn't get messed up.
Like, I think they're just dangling it as distraction
right now. But yeah, man, they also
they got to clean it up because
some of the stuff down. I can't
I'm not the guy to be talking about.
Right. But like, dude, it's
they got to do something. There's a lot of
taking advantage of a lot of these kids.
Also, you know, we'll front you this money. If when you get your
contract, you give me this and it's like a big
percentage away. So there's a lot of
like exploitation of those kids, which that makes me sad and stuff that you found out about
World Baseball Classic and even in the Dominican League a lot about also.
So it's something baseball has to clean up, but a lot of it is like their own doing.
You know, like you once they put and they had to do it because they felt, you know,
that they needed some kind of competitive balance.
But once you put caps on what teams can spend, boy, everybody knew, okay, this is the
pot.
Yeah.
And we all need to get this money.
At the end of the day, that musical chair number, it's like, we're done after that.
Like, we're done for this round.
And then if they go to a draft, it's going to be tough too because now you got slot money
for those international kids.
And that's a whole other thing.
So, yeah, I love being here.
I love All-Star because these guys that went through all that are now here.
They're all-stars.
They're one of the best.
and they're, I mean, Killer Cameronero's up there speaking with Jeff Passon
in his English, in English Latin.
Oh, it's cool to see.
Right?
Just to try to convey how the importance of this because of what the guys did for me in 94.
Yeah.
You know?
Yeah.
So that's what was crazy.
What else from this year's ball?
Do you got any, we did Yankee, ALE East.
Like, are you worried about the other teams?
Are you worried?
What else you got?
Well, okay, Yankees, to me, they do need to get judged back.
And people will say, oh, is that enough to push you?
Yes, like judges, just teams treat you differently when the man is here.
It's just what it is.
Same thing with Stanton, same thing.
It's just the lineup just gets constructed different.
People just treat you differently.
So I'm interested to see what the Yanks themselves are going to do to get better.
I don't know.
you mentioned that the AL is so weak.
I've always been a big run differential guy.
I want to see who are the teams that determine like, hey, you know what?
Even though we're mathematically in it, like Chris Rose says, that they just kind of bow out, right?
Like, I'm interested in seeing if the Astros will blink.
I don't think they're pitching is like anything.
They're not.
They're right there.
But I don't believe in they're pitching at all, right?
Like, they've had so many holes.
Well, to that point, they need to go.
go either way. Right. Like you don't have the horses. Go one way or the other. But you're in it,
do something. But if you're going to sell it, sell big, and I think a big chip that they have
there, I don't know if they'll do Alvarez or not, but I think one guy, a lot of people don't
mention, has a year left after this. Jeremy Pena. What are you going to do with that?
They've let a lot of guys walk before. Right. So it's like, you're going to let them walk
and now you get nothing. And then now we have the Angels Camerro situation.
what are we doing probably where do you want them
I mean
let's think about what teams need a shortstop right
and all roads lead back
to the Bronx I'd love them
but of course I'd love them
so I'd look around the league for these kind of guys
the Braves also need a shortstop
a lot of teams could use the main pain yeah
a couple of teams could use the shortstop
and I think Yankees might get out of bad
because they probably feel shortstop's not a problem
man, maybe that's a problem.
Rays?
That's what I think.
Yeah?
Race going to raise.
Twins?
No.
Okay.
Are the race for real?
Ryan Crather, though?
I believe in the raise.
I do.
How do you not believe in the race?
It's just sometimes, I don't know if a small market team disrespect.
It is.
You just been talking up Junior Cameron Arrow this entire episode.
No, no, no.
I'm not saying I don't believe in the raise.
I ask you guys.
Yondi?
Right.
They have guys.
Now, are they going to go for it at the deadline as a question.
What are they going to go ahead of?
I think all reports are saying, yes, they are going to be aggressive.
Wasn't there a scoble thing before we started doing this?
They went after O'Tonnie.
They're in.
I like a rise a lot.
He's a ball player.
And they went from like the respected, they went from the Brewers to like out for a couple years that I think they're going to do something.
They're going to do something.
Ray's Devil Magic.
Toronto's a nice place today.
Crazy.
Nobody talking about that.
Because the AIL's so wide open, you can't talk about anything.
Because if the Blue Jays come out of the break and they go 14 and 5, they're in the playoffs.
It's ridiculous.
Yeah.
I mean, the AIL is probably the worst it's ever been that I've ever seen.
Ooh, it's a fun game.
I'm trying to think back.
I feel like an NL because, I mean, the AIL West.
I was looking at that.
And it's like, they're all.
in it.
Except one team.
But like four of them are still like in it.
In it.
You know?
A's a lot of A's have gone down too.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think I think I still believe in the Mariners.
I'm really scratching my head with Cal Riley and what's been going over it is a year.
But I look for them to kind of have that turnaround.
I like that team.
So I'd like to see that from the Mariners.
But just overall, it's been like.
Mid.
You can't look at.
around the league and be like, whoa, that team's great.
It's not even mid plus, it's mid minus.
Oh, God.
It's not.
Why do you think that is?
Jimmy said everybody left to go fight the guys in the NL.
That doesn't even make any sense.
Why would you do that?
Sometimes he's got his things.
If the NL is that powerful, wouldn't you be like, well, I'm going to go over there because
it's a little easier, right?
Maybe.
Maybe.
Oh, that's why there's tape on it.
Yeah.
Oh.
All right.
Let's go fight them all together over there in the NL.
We needed more Dodgers, love.
Maybe Cohen's ready.
I think we got to call it.
We've talked a lot of ball today.
Shout out to everyone.
Shout out to Bobby Sarachi,
producing his butt out over there.
How does the Dodgers stack the deck?
Excuse me?
You're going to stack the deck again.
Imagine if they have a big deadline.
Watch out.
They might.
Watch out.
Watch out.
A couple guys going there in our trade deadline draft
coming up during the midweek.
special Bobby Golf's Friday edit.
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Thanks to everyone that was on here.
I'm so senile that I was going to try to name names,
and we had a situation with that earlier,
then I'm not going to try to name names.
We've been going all day long.
We've been going all day.
All day.
Thanks to Swill Nation.
Thanks to Jimmy O'Brien.
Jimmy Norpe.
Thanks to Jimmy Norr.
Joe's McFly.
Joe's McFly.
Chris Rose.
Chris Rose.
We had, Ryan Cohen.
and Jolly Olive.
And Jolly.
Where's Jolly?
Well, he bowed out because of us.
Jolly bowed out because Mets.
Because the Mets sting.
Shelfi went home.
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