Talkin' Baseball (MLB Podcast) - Announcing Our May All-Star Team | 672

Episode Date: June 7, 2023

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Starting point is 00:00:01 Hello and welcome to talking baseball. It's the midweek episode. It's a big midweek episode. It's the all April through May, JM team. Get ready to get upset. Hello and welcome to talking baseball. Brought to you by Seat Geek. My name is Jimmy.
Starting point is 00:00:30 We got Jake here. We got BBD in the corner. And Trevor coming to you from his lovely hotel room in Tampa Bay. Curtains behind you. low-key outfit from you, Trev, backwards hat. You and Jake wearing the same shirt, different colors. Nice. Yeah, we have a gender real party after the show.
Starting point is 00:00:51 Ooh. How is TB? TP. It's great. Twin has got their butts kick last night. The raises are everything that they're advertised to be. Jose Siri had a moment. Jake would have been so proud to be here and see him and put lollipops in his hair.
Starting point is 00:01:09 But everything's good. Bounce back tonight for my Twinkies. James, I love having you on the show, bro. I do. You have to spoon me shirt on, and now I'm thinking you would be a good cuddle. You would be. I don't know what that says about me, that my mind went there, but it did. Jake, how are you doing?
Starting point is 00:01:26 Oh, okay. Trev, James Davis, everyone tuning in with us. Yeah, let's get some hearts broken this episode. That's what it is, you know? Everyone thinks about the winner, and everybody thinks about the losers. And, yeah, it's good having my bay. Tampa Bay. Ooh, as I said, every episode is brought to you by Seekek, but this episode is really
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Starting point is 00:02:09 This is not the all-May. JM team. We're finding who's been the most consistent throughout the whole year. So if you had a terrible April, but a really good May, that April might hurt you. If you had a really good April, bad May, that April might help you. It is a cumulative. Always trips everyone up the first time they kind of hear what we're doing here. So, if you guys want to start AL like we usually do, or do you want to give the NL love?
Starting point is 00:02:38 Trev says no, shake it up. I want to get the NL some little strokey, if you know what I mean. Okay. Thanks, thank you. Now, Bidi, do you have the NL April? I do. Winners in front of you? Maybe read those off for us so people can, you know.
Starting point is 00:02:55 I'd love to. In April, in the NL. Our catcher was Sean Murphy. First base was Paul Goldschmidt. Second base, Louisa Rize. Zander Bogartz was our shortstop. Max Muncie took third base of that. I did not.
Starting point is 00:03:08 remember. Our outfielders were Acuna, James Outman, and Brandon Marsh was their center fielder. McCutcheon was a D.H. Tyro Estrada was our U-Till, and Zach Allen took the starting pitcher honors. Ooh, Gowan. Can you tell me underlining names so I can see. Who was the three outfielers? It was Acuna.
Starting point is 00:03:30 Marsh was in center, then Acuna and Outman. Wow. Marsh not even, an Outman, not even on the board. Half the season, if you don't have a good half the season and other people do. Yeah. Find yourself off the map. Okay. Because you do want to win every month because you get a pedal for every month you win.
Starting point is 00:03:50 And if you go pole to pole, you get a silver daisy. All your pedals get put together. And then you get a beautiful silver daisy. Each player gets a locket, but some are two pedal lockets. Some are six pedal lockets. Oh, I thought they just had loose pedals. Oh, you lose, though. So this is important.
Starting point is 00:04:08 That's why you put it on a lock. Okay. But you want to have that full daisy. Yeah. Jose Siri, maybe he puts it on his necklace. If he won. But he doesn't care. He doesn't care.
Starting point is 00:04:21 He doesn't care. Who cares less, him or Walker Bueller? Different levels. Different levels. Let's start with the NL catcher then. On our board here, we have William Contreras. Elias Diaz, Sean Murphy, and Will Smith. And as you heard BBD say, Sean Murphy is the incumbent.
Starting point is 00:04:43 Is that the correct use of that term? Politics guy, for sure. What's shout out to you, Jake? I love Elias Diaz jumping on the board. He has been incredible. You know, the kind of a little bit of a journeyman catcher putting together a massive year for the rocks. I love seeing him up there. And his numbers compete, although I do think him and William
Starting point is 00:05:07 Contreras are a step below where Trev's Will Smith and BBD's Sean Murphy have landed. It's high and tight. And I think you have a slightly better offensive catcher, a slightly better defensive catcher. And I think that's where the vote kind of lands. So who do you got? Oh, we're just revealing. Trev? I'd like to give a little, no, I mean, look, I think that Will.
Starting point is 00:05:39 Smith has done a really good job. He is, I don't know if he's my favorite catcher in the game, but he's one of my favorite catchers in the game. He's just he's so good when you start to look at the numbers. But Sean Murphy has been better. I don't think there's really
Starting point is 00:05:55 any way around it. He's played more games than him. He has more homers, more runs, more RBI. The thing that Will Smith has done that I really like is that he has more walks than strikeouts, which is really cool. I'll always think that's cool. But also, Sean Murphy has seven hit by pitches.
Starting point is 00:06:14 That big butt is just getting in the way of all these pitches. He leads an F4. His on base percentage almost starts for the four. So I'm taking Sean Murphy and he keeps his hopes alive for Silver Daisy in my book. All right. Yeah. I mean, Will Smith has less games. He was out for a chunk of April. Two guys, two catchers that are hitting in the heart of the line. up. I think Murphy gets mostly clean up at bats. I just saw Smith. He's batting three hole for the Dodgers, a good amount. I don't know. I thought I was leaning Smith until you talked and then I'm trying to refine the numbers. You're looking at a lot of the counting numbers, but, you know, Smith was heard a little bit. Well, Smith is DH to chunk two where I think he's DH 20 plus games.
Starting point is 00:07:06 Murphy's only DH five. And yeah, I mean, the caught. Dealing numbers. Murphy's thrown out guys at a 29% clip. Will Smith at a 10% clip. I, my heart wanted to say Will Smith because it's like, okay, the Dodgers and he is hitting third in the middle of the lineup. Sean Murphy's doing the same stuff and I think he's better defensively. So I will follow in, I think I'll stamp it for Sean Murphy. You guys won me over. It's a trip stamp. Triple stamp. Well, I feel like pretty powerful that I influenced. Congrats to the Braves. You did shit. Sean Murphy, two pedals.
Starting point is 00:07:42 Two months. Remains in line. Next up, we got Paul, Pete, and Freddie. Yeah. And Christian, who's on the board. Blah, blah, blah, blah. Paul Pete and Freddie. First base, NL.
Starting point is 00:07:58 Gold, do you want it? Last month, if you're looking at Freddy's numbers. They're kind of silly, guys. I mean, is this a Freddie Freeman runaway? Should this be a quick one? There's a fake combo, but it's Frederick. I mean, Freddie Freeman, 346 batting average 420 OBP first two months of the season 588 slugging oh he's nuts
Starting point is 00:08:24 everything he does uh with a bat in his hands is beautiful I love watching that guy hit this is a stacked position right now these numbers that we're looking at there's a lot of good a lot of good ball players in front of my face but I do believe that Freddie has separated himself from the pack a little bit. What did he do in April that he didn't win? Was Goldie just that much better or is there a massive discussion? I mean, we've seen these two neck and neck for the past two years now. I know first base has kind of become these guys stomping grounds. And hey, if you're a Mets fan or an Alonzo guy, which you know I am, and you're like, hey, he's got 20 double to homers. Frederick Freeman has 23 doubles. Pete has
Starting point is 00:09:07 four. 19 more doubles from Freddie. Um, so. So, yeah, Pete, I love watching that guy play. It's Freddie and Paul, and literally everything on Freddie's page is a tick better than Paul. Yeah, and in April, Freddie didn't even crack the top four for us, Trev. Mm-hmm. I just saw that. He didn't have a bad April, but, you know, first month of season, some guys really go off.
Starting point is 00:09:35 His May, he batted 400 in May. Mm-hmm. I mean, he had a 462. on base in May. Freddie has played every game of the season. Two-hole, first base, every game. I mean, does he have any D-H-D-H-days? No.
Starting point is 00:09:52 Two-hole, first base, 61 at a 61 games. I love that. So yeah, he's the pedal winner for May. And I'll call out Dalton real quick because he does have Christian Walker on the sheet, which is nice. I think Matt Olson has a very good argument for third or fourth place,
Starting point is 00:10:09 879 OPS as we stand today. But maybe that's some June stuff, and we'll get there in June. Congrats to Frederick Freeman. Four Hyundai. It's a good position. He stole them bases? Hey, Jim. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:23 Speaking of 400. Yeah. And L. second base. Oh, yeah. Oh. Aha. Another runaway, Luis Surrys.
Starting point is 00:10:33 Do we dare name anyone else? Or you don't have it as a runaway? Ozzy Albies, Tyro Strata, Niko Horner on the list here. Shout out to those dudes. Trev, taste Tyro, you won't. There are some good options on this list. Now, if we're just going by, you know, 400 is something else, dude.
Starting point is 00:10:59 Arise is batting 381. And that's right, this is the end of May. And he did have kind of, he had a quote unquote, tough May. I think he had 330. This is through May, so we can't even talk 400. Although as we sit here today, I think he's at 401. Yeah. But we're not talking about that.
Starting point is 00:11:17 We're not talking about June. He ends April and May with an 811 OPS, which is the second highest OPS out of the positions here, the players here. Oh, oh. 4-345 on base percentage. So like Ozzy hasn't beat in OPS and on base percentage. Is Ozzy playing awful defense?
Starting point is 00:11:37 What is this? It sure seems that way. Yeah, I mean, according to the metrics. Because a 904 OPS. Yo How does he have that on base percentage With that walk percentage The defensive sub's what I was like
Starting point is 00:11:56 This there's got to be Is there a typo? Yeah this looks like it's there It's got to be a 338 Oh, we are beefing Let's look it up right now Oh no Yep
Starting point is 00:12:06 Oh boy Is it a 338 not a 4 Congrats to Luis rise Yeah he's got a 306 OBP currently So that's not right that's fine we knew it was all good Arise was winning it anyway
Starting point is 00:12:23 I think we do have to give it to Arise just because he's doing something that is like historical at second base I mean shout out Ozby Ozzy he's put up some good numbers Tyra Estrada has put together a really nice season it's really tough to take away from him
Starting point is 00:12:40 but Arise kind of when you do something like that it separates you put in the pack it does history maybe maybe Zander won the shortstop in April. What does the red identify here? Honestly, it's the rudest thing in our sheet.
Starting point is 00:12:57 It's still the fact that Perdomo hasn't played a lot of games because he was getting partially platooned. He doesn't play versus left. So he is the only player on this sheet that is designated with the color red, which I guess can be complimentary as well, but it's also like, come on. Come on, D-Bex, play him both ways.
Starting point is 00:13:18 Zander at shortstop. Let's see I mean Perdomo wins in every slash line Perdomo's got the highest average highest on base Highest slugging Highest OPS
Starting point is 00:13:34 Highest Highest weighted runs created Highest B-war Second highest Not the highest B-war Sorry Danzby has the highest B-war And Danzby has the highest F-war
Starting point is 00:13:47 11 games more played for Dan's If I'm looking at this right now, I'm probably, I'm just, I'm between those two. Perdomo's still out for me. He doesn't have the at-bats. I mean, I know it's not his fault, but come on. He's put up really good numbers without the at-bats. I mean, he has more RBIs than Danesby without the at-bats. He has the same amount of homers as Danesby without the ab-bats.
Starting point is 00:14:13 He's close and runs. This is a tough one for me. I'm going back and forth. I'm leaning Dansby, but I could be persuaded into Perdome of Jay-Nesby, if Jake wants to do that with his snakes. Perdomo is behind on A-Bs by quite a bit. Yeah. Even with Dalton's filters, he told me this month the cutoff was 150-played appearances.
Starting point is 00:14:35 Prudomo is technically four-short of that. I think he made a little bit of an exception. He's not even like if you short by qualified, he's not even there. Yeah, he's not qualified yet. So it's tough. Yeah, I obviously love Perdomo and what he's doing for the team. And by the way, against Rydes where they're sitting, him more. He has a 391 on base.
Starting point is 00:14:54 He's like, he's slapping it around. So it's tough. I, I unfortunately agree. I mean, you know, Dansby Swanson having a hundred more at bats. Yeah. As we're talking two months of the season. That's impactful.
Starting point is 00:15:09 And you guys know I'm on a hill of we, Dansby Swanson got hated on because his defense should decline. He's still really good. He's still real. The decline, the decline It hasn't happened yet. So as of now, he's hitting better than every other shortstop outside of Perdomo in a smaller sample,
Starting point is 00:15:30 and he still picks it at a gold glove level. So I have no qualms giving it to Danz. Yeah, Danzby's playing every day in the two-hole when Perdomo is in there. He's mostly 7, 8, 9 back of the order. So it's just a different kind of environment. Yeah. I'm fine with it.
Starting point is 00:15:45 Prado's on a first place team. Yeah. Oh, wow. Shout out Lendor. He's got some power number. The extra base hits are there, but the on-base percentage has not been. Lowest walk rate of them all.
Starting point is 00:15:58 Yeah, the last line doesn't learn right in the next coming months. Yeah, we need... Anything wrong, Dansby? Need Zander, Frankie, or Perdomo to play more. To get it going in June. And summer's here, so they will. It's going to get hot,
Starting point is 00:16:13 especially in the desert. Grats Lieutenant Dan. Danj. Dandre. So no one will be winning a Silver Daisy, NL shortstop. That's tough. Good.
Starting point is 00:16:25 We have NL second base, NL catcher. Silver Daisy still up for grabs. Yeah. What about NL third base? Max Muncie won it. I believe this was a contentious one when we chose Muncie. I remember people on the, saw some Twitter replies getting upset about that.
Starting point is 00:16:46 But we got Aronado on our list. Heimer, Candelario, or Jamer. forget. I said it one way. It's Jammer. Jammer and Jammer. Jadis. I thought it was Jamer and then it was I forget what it is.
Starting point is 00:17:01 Jamer. I think it's one of the names that America changed and he said it's right. Has battled. Luis Robert, Robert, Robert. You see our guy fuzzy fighting that. I think, I thought April was pretty clean because Muncie went nuts in April.
Starting point is 00:17:17 I know, I know wisdom was solid, but I think Muncie all around kind of Adam B. Right now I have no idea what to do, Treve. And you, you know, people forget, you actually played third base for a period of time. What are you seeing in the NL? Well, my first, my first glance here at the numbers and comparing these guys, I wanted it to go Muncie. Now, it's interesting to me. I mean, he's got the highest walk percentage of all the candidates here at a 15.5 percent. But he's hitting 10.5 percent. But he's hitting 10.
Starting point is 00:17:52 209. So his on base percentage isn't there. So to me that means the BABIP isn't there. So he's got more in the tank. Like he's probably going to get going that it doesn't mean anything for right now because we're just talking about what he's done through May. Oh boy. I think we got a race here between Muncie who I believe is leading I get my sheet back up there together. I believe he's leading. Oh shit. I don't know. Wow. Now that I'm looking at the more of the numbers, I mean, Jamers leading in the B-war and the F-war categories.
Starting point is 00:18:28 J.D. Davis is leading in a weighted runs created plus. For me, it's Muncie. That makes it any easier. Close and OPS. Or harder for you. But my vote's going to go back to Muncie. I mean, he's got 17 home runs. I know the average stinks.
Starting point is 00:18:41 I think day in, day out watching Muncie might be very frustrating. Dodgers fans let me know at the bat because he just doesn't swing. But then it's working right now. the on-base percentage is more than 100% higher than the average. So you would like some singles to get mixed in. But he's got, I mean, 17 home runs. He's doubling these guys up on homers. I mean, you want power from the third base position.
Starting point is 00:19:06 Also, the Yankees just played the Dodgers in Muncie. I don't know what the public thinks about him defensively. But in the series where I watched him play third base every day, he kind of surprised me of like, he always moved around at a time. But he made some solid plays where I was like, shit, dude. Why are you so nimble over there? he's a ball player yeah so I'm gonna go
Starting point is 00:19:24 Muncie with my vote and Treves yeah this is a tough one I think I'm deciding between Muncie and Jamer that's where my head is at right now the 17
Starting point is 00:19:46 homers are difficult to look past it really it's a lot of home runs he does strike out a ton he is a buddy of mine. Ooh. I don't know if he
Starting point is 00:19:59 consider me his friend, but I consider him my friend. I don't, I think he doesn't have many. I didn't. It's that he considers. A lot of people consider them Max's friend. And he's just like,
Starting point is 00:20:07 eh, I like my friend. Yeah, I get that. I get that. I did say, I think I'll go, I'll go Muncie.
Starting point is 00:20:13 I want to give him a shot of the silver daisy. The numbers are close enough. I think power is important to me. He's got it. You can't be hitting 209 and get a silver daisy. I'm sorry. I know that.
Starting point is 00:20:26 average doesn't mean everything and the OPS is there. It's the best one on the board of these guys we're looking at. But we can't be giving away Silver Day's a 2-10 hitters. He's not sustainable what he's doing, but right now he's making it work by when he does hit it. It's going a long way. But there's got to be some balance to be found. And you hope that it lands in a good spot. I want slugging from my third base thing.
Starting point is 00:20:52 He's clearly the got the best slug of these guys that were looking at. at here best OPSO. That's kind of where that's my decision. Messy, man. I mean, Muncie gets it. Jamer, hey, I know the homers are there for Muncie. He does have more extra base hits than Muncie. And J.D. Davis has been raking too. The question for him has always been defense
Starting point is 00:21:17 and the defensive numbers don't look good. So I would have to ask Giants fans, how has it felt? I was shocked to see he's been basically their everyday third baseman. There's a couple DH days. mixed in there. But, A, happy for J.D. Davis, because look at his career numbers. He's always hit. And that's some Giants magic. Let's just sweep it with Muncie. It's messy and Jamer deserve some love. And so did J.D. And hey, Nolan Aronado, let's go. Machado come back. Maybe David Wright on retire or something? I don't know. Aronado had a 900 OPS in May. Do that again. And you're
Starting point is 00:21:52 probably in the conversation, but that April is tough. Crazy. Yeah. Congrats Max Muncie. Congrats to Max Muncie. Before we get to that National League outfield, oh my God, the fly ball. I can't see it.
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Starting point is 00:23:38 Like you get it, but we get to yell at you. That would be a fair tradeoff. But they don't. They're really nice. The National League outfield. We need a center fielder. at least in two other outfielders. Trev, you just talked to your kids,
Starting point is 00:23:59 aka my godchildren, and said hi. Me and Jimmy looked at each other and we said, we think we have R3. Yeah, I think I got mine. Okay, well, I know. Look, Ronald Acuna Jr., congratulations. Wow, dude. Yeah, but we got to do center field first.
Starting point is 00:24:13 Oh, we're doing center first? I thought we're going to do the two others and then go center last. You need a center fielder. That can change the whole shape of the outfield. One of the other outfielder's might be a center field. First up. The guy that you want at center might not get it, and then you're going to want him in the corner.
Starting point is 00:24:29 Whatever. Then let's pick our center field. Center fielder eligible for center fielder. Cody Bellinger, Corbyn Carroll, T.J. Friedel. Brandon Nimmo. I always want Nimmo to win, man, because I kind of like what he's about. I like that.
Starting point is 00:24:44 He's in the center field and he steals and he's hustles, but he's just not ever at the top of the center field list. He is always the bridesmaid. Always. It's tough. It feels like he's always right there. Yeah. Well, the guy that I'm voting for is a 290 average, a 376 on base, a 519 slugging, 895 OPS.
Starting point is 00:25:04 He's got a 2.3F war and a 2.2B war. Corbyn Carroll, alliteration in the name. That's my vote for center fielder. I'm in. Sweep. He's a superstar. I don't think it was even close. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:19 He is a superstar. Okay. Well, then, Jeff, as you said previously, I think, Acuna's also in. He's... Coon's nuts. If we didn't pick a Coon, imagine the text
Starting point is 00:25:32 we'd get it from Peter Moyland. Jake was given a look. Jake was given a look. I was going to tell the people, Jim, that we have a sick Corby and Carroll's shirt. Oh, nice. You kept the train on the tracks there. And I think we have a sick Ronnie shirt, too.
Starting point is 00:25:44 But yeah, I mean, Ronald Cooney, arguably NLMVP up into this point. I mean, his slash line is the three, four, five slash line that we always talk about. The average starts with the three, on base starts with the four and the slug starts with the five. And that's before you got to the 23 stolen bases he has. She'd call him a 3.45.
Starting point is 00:26:02 Should just call those guys. He's a 3.4 or 5. By the way, Corbyn Carroll's 16 swipes of his own. So we got a nice little outfield form and speed pop. The last spot is where it might get interesting. Yes. And does anyone want to go first? I mean, it's going to be between MOOC, you bet, and one soda.
Starting point is 00:26:19 I'm assuming you guys are on that same page. that's where my eyes were going. Yep, I agree with you. I'm on that same page, Trev. Now, I don't like to do this. I mean, I don't know. It's like Juan Soto has carried the Padres. Now hasn't carried them very far,
Starting point is 00:26:40 as we know by their record. So I think it's, I think his numbers would look a lot better if, like, other guys around him were hitting. So, like, do we get to, fault him for that. Muki is heart and soul of the Dodgers, but he also has superstars that are going off around him too.
Starting point is 00:27:02 So it's an interesting debate between these two. I have a lean, but I'm curious to hear your guys take to see if I can be swayed. Do you want me to give you my lean? Yeah, give me your lean. I'm leaning Mookie bets over one. I'll put Jake in the tight spot. I'm leaning Soto.
Starting point is 00:27:26 I was pumped to see Soto's name on this list. Maybe Soto likes playing when everyone else isn't playing well around him. That's kind of what he got used to in Washington. I like seeing Soto's on base at 424. That's kind of his game. Own the zone. And then he does have the slugging at 500. He doesn't have the batting average at 3,
Starting point is 00:27:46 but he's there. His walk percentage is higher than his K percentage. And his numbers B-war-wise and F-war aren't, are up there, which means that his outfield, because Bewar loves defense, isn't costing him much in left field for them. Padre's fans, obviously, you know more than me. Has he been unreliable or reliable?
Starting point is 00:28:05 But just guessing they're not that bad. He's playing every day. They moved him around in the lineup a bunch. He was like one, two, or I don't know, it was one, two, three, four. But yeah, I'm going with Soto. I like Dion Base. He's got a higher average than Mookie. Mookie's versatility has actually played well,
Starting point is 00:28:26 but this is best outfielder. I mean, like, he's got him in extra bit. Mookie has Monsoto on extra base hits. He has him in runs. He has him in RBI. And Mookie's walk rate is excellent as well. It's not Wonsoto like. Runs in RBI.
Starting point is 00:28:41 Mookie's playing on the Dodgers and Wonsoto's playing. That's what I'm saying. Do we fall Monsoto for that? I think when we're looking at numbers and results, we kind of, we are. 34 walks to 43 strikeouts. I like that ratio for Mookie. And yes, outfield his defenses.
Starting point is 00:28:58 If you watch him play, he's awesome. And yes, he can play shortstop, second base. But we're talking about outfield here. When he's in the outfield, he's elite as well. So how are you wheeled right now? Soto has a fantastic argument. The on-base percentage, 424, that's special. That might be the best we've seen on this entire page.
Starting point is 00:29:25 The fact that Mookie Betz is out slugging Juan Soto into this fine season is surprising. I think offensively, Juan Soto is a head above Mookie Betz so far, but I think defensively Mookie Betz is head and shoulders above Wonsodo. The shoulders win. I'm going Mookie Bets. I'm going Mookie Bets. Betts has Freddy protecting him. Of course he's got more slugging.
Starting point is 00:30:00 He's getting hits in the zone. Who's in the Padres lineup? No one doing anything good. The names are good. Bogart's has protected him a couple of times. Nelson Cruz has been behind him for a good chunk. Machado's recently. Joe's pretty good.
Starting point is 00:30:17 Soto's not getting anything to hit and he's still slugging. And taking his pitches. He's out slugging him. Well, that's what I'm saying. He's getting a little. all those pitches in the zone. Set in the tone. Congrats, Moek.
Starting point is 00:30:31 I've got a question here before we move on to DH. Because we have a guy listed, Nolan Gorman, who has put up some really good numbers, but he's played a lot of second base, too. Do we have to revisit second base? Are we still... A rise would still have him beat. Yeah, Rise makes it easy.
Starting point is 00:30:51 Okay, okay, okay. I got a tough time calling Nolan Gorman a D. he's playing a lot of second base. 21 starts at DH and 23 at second base and 5 at third base. So yeah, I kind of see what you're saying there. Because last year, last episode we very much were like, we were like DHTH is a tough role. And we gave that a big advantage.
Starting point is 00:31:25 And McCutcheon got it last month. Yeah. month. I mean, yeah, JD got some pretty good numbers. You're going off. Yeah. He's got some good numbers,
Starting point is 00:31:40 J.D. Martinez. All right, Jake, I won't make you go last this time in case it's split. Do you want to go first? And I think my guy, Jorge Soler, deserves a little love. He's been,
Starting point is 00:31:49 he went nut job. 17 home runs. He and Arise have been the guys carrying that offense. Who? I'll go J.D. Martinez. Jim, you mentioned the 3, 4, 5 that you want to make a thing?
Starting point is 00:32:10 Mm-hmm. How about the 2-3-6? J.D. has been mauling. 14 doubles, 12 home runs. Ah. But Nolan Gorman hasn't been game significantly, because, again, this is end of May. So J.D. has continued to play a little bit.
Starting point is 00:32:35 But the at-bats aren't that crazy. I'll go J-D-Martinez. I think D.A.G. is a skill. He's got 162 at-bats, and Gorman has 173 and Cutch as 172. So they're all a little similar there. But you're not going to find a number you don't like on J-D-slash-line because even the batting average starts with two, like you said.
Starting point is 00:32:58 It's 278. So that's not, you know. Walk percentage in K-per- percentage not great for JD. I expect those to even out a little bit for him. I think with Nolan Gorman, I think he's caught in the middle, and this is a tough, a tough team to crack. Like, I don't think he's DH'd enough.
Starting point is 00:33:14 Yeah, I mean, it's not as most prominent role. The chance he'll be ineligible for DH next month. Yeah. Depending on what they've got going on. And I don't know if he's been better than JD, and I don't think he's been better than Arias. So that's kind of how the cookie crumbles sometimes. Yes.
Starting point is 00:33:29 Sucks the Cardinals are winning all those games and love to get them on. here, but... Oh, boy. Oh, now there's 611 sluggies. No way. BPD hates birds. You're DMing him.
Starting point is 00:33:43 Still in last place. Cardinals. I'm going J.D. Martinez. Last place in the National League. Yeah. Didn't you guys say they were going to get better? They will.
Starting point is 00:33:55 They did get better for like two weeks. It was sweet. They only have to get so much better is the problem. They dug a huge hole. They just went back to digging. Pirates are struggling with Oakland right now. And they swept the Cardinals. Pirates are in first place, aren't they?
Starting point is 00:34:11 That's June. They were in first place. Who you guys got for you, too? Trev, you've got a couple of your guy guys on this list. Brian Anderson. Wrecking it up for the brew crew. Brendan Donovan with the biggest positional flex on the board. Connor Joe, we talked about those.
Starting point is 00:34:32 Pirates. He's been in the middle of that lineup. Young Spencer Steer trying to sneak his way in here as a versatile first base, third base option, which has been debated in Util Field last night. I know it's in June, but it's been debated
Starting point is 00:34:48 in Util circles for years. What are you seeing here, Trevor Plough? So if we're just going by what we talk about Util, I mean, Spencer Steer is not a utility player to me if you're playing Corner Infield. I agree. He's a corner infielder. And I got a little bit of a bad taste by mouth
Starting point is 00:35:08 because he was a twins prospect and we traded him. Or Malley. We. Molly. Yeah, I was in the room for that. And also, Connor Joe, for being serious, I mean... Be serious, then. I guess, yeah, that's utility.
Starting point is 00:35:25 Let's say first base, 10 games at first base, and then some of the outfit. I'll give him utility there. I will. If you're going back and forth from the infield in the outfield, I think that constitutes each other. Aren't you the same guy that talks about old washed up Trevor Plouffe trying to learn to play first base and how hard it is?
Starting point is 00:35:42 It's difficult. It's difficult. But the thing is, I'm looking at Brennan Donovan in all the positions that he's played, even though it's only two at third base, one at shortstop, but he's been kind of everywhere. And that means something to me when you're in the utility role. But his numbers also are just not that great. Well, it goes to be said.
Starting point is 00:36:05 He's been slightly above league average hitter, and to have a guy be able to play second base, left field, first base, right field, third base, and even a game at shortstop, and be a league average hitter, that in itself is quite impressive. Got 13 ribbies, bro. That being said, I'm going Connor Joe.
Starting point is 00:36:25 Connor Joe's been in the middle of Pittsburgh's lineup. He's part of the reason they are still fighting for first place. in that NL Centrale. He's your favorite player, Connor Joe. If we're taking Spencer Steer out of it, then Connor Joe's been the most impressive
Starting point is 00:36:48 offensively. Am I right about that? Let me look at this. Yes. So I think that's where I'm leaning. I appreciate the flexibility Brandon Donovan brings, but the counting stats
Starting point is 00:37:04 aren't there for me. Brian Anderson is just a tick below Connor Joe and a lot of these stats, although he has more bats than him. Connor Joe's got him in extra base hits. He's got him in runs. He only has 17 reviews too.
Starting point is 00:37:20 Geez. I'm going Connor Joe. This is a tough one this month. Not a lot of really great options in my opinion. But I'm going Connor Joe. I think especially with his he's been playing some left field in June now. I think end of this month June doesn't exist.
Starting point is 00:37:38 BPD. I know, John doesn't exist. Yeah, yeah. I'm helping you. June's out. I'm saying Steers out for now. Next month he might be in the mix. What's next month?
Starting point is 00:37:50 I vote for Donovan. I will not abstain this time. Hey-oh. Because Conner Joe is eligible to win the outfield. So I don't, that doesn't make sense to me. So Donovan's not eligible to win any position because he's dispersed so much.
Starting point is 00:38:04 Well, what about Tyro Strata, who won it last year. He's not eligible in this. The bullet? For this month. Tyro Estrada. Trevor thrown a late wrench.
Starting point is 00:38:18 Thanks. Sorry, guys. He won it last year and wasn't even listed. I think he's playing just second base every game now. Yeah. He's playing a lot of second base. Got some shortstop mixed in there. That's kind of like the middle of thing.
Starting point is 00:38:37 He's out. He's out. He's out. He's out. Fifteen games at shortstop. Glad you brought him up again. Well, I just noticed you wanted. Useless point, but I'm glad you brought him up again.
Starting point is 00:38:48 But to what Jake said, which is my argument, the fact that Brandon Donovan is truly a utility player, but not letting him play any position enough to, like, win out at that position, and is an above-average bat that's valuable. I know. It's a good points, James. I very much agree, but I think what Connor Joe is providing also at multiple positions. But the positions matter.
Starting point is 00:39:12 You know, corner outfield first base. Right. But Conard. You've seen guys do that that you don't consider athletic. Connor Joe is athletic. Brendan Donovan has two games at third and one at short. So like. A ton at second.
Starting point is 00:39:25 You take those out and it's, you've added one position. But it's a middle infield position, which is the whole thing. Yeah. We're sticking with Conner Joe. Gratz Conner Jew. Pitcher. Zach Allen won at last. year, last year, last month.
Starting point is 00:39:45 And I don't know, he stays strong. He stays strong. Logan Webb gets into the mix here. His ERA is 275, which Zach Gallons is 272. And Justin Steele, Cubby's Justin Steele. He has the lowest ERA of all pitchers that have started 12 games. Logan Webb's only started 11. Damn, Justin Steele.
Starting point is 00:40:10 Just got hurt That sucks We hate that Treb's going to mention Spencer Strider's strikeouts Go on Those big old feet of his What do you think it really looks like, Jake?
Starting point is 00:40:25 Oh I know I know There's certain times in life When it's good to know Peter Moyland Um Okay Literally he broke
Starting point is 00:40:35 He broke this fastest to 100 strikeouts record, right? Yeah There's a lot of really good option. Every strikeout record is basically striders these days. It's pretty nuts. What Ms. Keller's been able to do, it's been awesome to see. Zach Gallen to me right now is who I'm looking to vote for. I'm pouring over some of these numbers a little bit more. I'm happy for Justin Steele. I love the homers per nine, but Gallen even has them in that. He's going to have two homers in 72 and two-thirds innings pitch. I'm going Zag Cali.
Starting point is 00:41:10 Allen. Strider's got one less game, but Strider doesn't. Is this Strider? Who are you? Strider? He's got two games of four earned runs as is most where Zach Gallen has won three games of four run runs or more. And the game log? Strider's fucking crazy, dude.
Starting point is 00:41:33 There's a lot of really good pitchers right in front of those. Strider has made it through the fifth inning every single game. Gallin hasn't done that twice. I think I just landed on Strider. My vote. Ooh. Justin Steele's so interesting, but he might not be the best pitcher on his staff.
Starting point is 00:41:54 It might be Stroman. Yeah, I looked at his game log, and I know he was injured, so the last couple, 3.2, 3.3. Yeah. It's between Gallen and Strider. Hey, we're, we're, splitting hairs at this point, but I've got
Starting point is 00:42:16 one more start in almost a full game of innings from Zach Allen with a lower ERA than Strider, so I'm going Zach Allen. Gallen also has a lower FIP. And Strider's whip. Dude, to have such a strikeout guy and have a
Starting point is 00:42:32 whip under one? Strider's nuts. He's a sicko. Are we not even mentioning Marcus Stroman in this portion of the show? I just did. Dalton made the sheet. And I guess he leans he leans steel over stroman but stroman definitely deserved to shout i know he also has one good start this month which hasn't happened yet okay i mean look i got a two five nine era 12
Starting point is 00:42:58 starts where does that land him with the other 12 starters that we had i don't best best era of any of them yeah it's all oh oh boy 354 phipp maybe he did it by like war or something and Strowman's got a great war I think Stroman has it in war as well 188 batting average against for Stroman His game log
Starting point is 00:43:30 3.1 B war right now This game log is nuts Snagdleton quick I'm going Stroman I'm going Stroman His game log is nuts Snagdal quick He's got one six earned run and one five
Starting point is 00:43:43 But I mean 6-0-60 6-260 6.1-2, 6-1-6-1. One dud game against the twins. Best offense and baseball. His last two in the month of May were eight innings pitched, two-runs, nine-in-pitched, zero-runs. Dalton.
Starting point is 00:44:02 Yeah, we need Dalton to explain himself. Oh, he's so nervous. I'm scared. What do I do? No Stroman, eligible? There's a lot of good pitchers. Up in. I'm over here because I don't like the animosity I'm getting over here.
Starting point is 00:44:18 Or just curious. So, top of my head, Gallon, snakes, probably by the guy I would vote for personally. He's gotten votes. Strider. Right. I.S.K. is Rumae.
Starting point is 00:44:30 Sure. Keller, our guy. Right? Our guy. Our guy. Most strikeouts in Pirates history before June. Pirates history out of here, though. Also, Ks per night, I think he's second the NL at that point.
Starting point is 00:44:43 It's good. So then Justin Steele, I know we got banged up. Right. One of the, I think he was like second or third in war in the end. I think we were just curious. I think Stroman and Strollman and all of these guys have similar arguments. Did you search by like FIP or something like that?
Starting point is 00:44:58 Or just curious? Yeah. So for me with Steele and Strowman, very similar cases. Wins obviously helped steal, even though wins are a fake. Isn't that same a matter? Okay. Now we're talking. Again, my looking through to two of them, the wars between baseball ref and fan
Starting point is 00:45:19 graphs. There are some discrepancies, and so it leaned to me for Steele. Okay. I know he also, a little recency bias, Steel's been out. Strowman had the complete game shuddy versus the raise. Right. To end the month. To end the month. I know, very impressive. Looking at it from the start of the season to now, I still think accumulatively I would go with Steele. But if we're talking June, maybe Stromen's on here. Oh, we're not talking, Jim. But we're not talking June does not exist. Exactly. Thank you, Dahl. Thank you. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:45:51 That's all we needed. I'm still shaking, by the way. You were fantastic. You were lovely. This is tough, guys. This is tough. I think I'm still going to keep my Zach Gallen vote because of the FIP, and that's what pitchers love to look at.
Starting point is 00:46:07 He leads the all of baseball in FIP, I believe. That's bold, italic. I'm going, Stroman. I'm changing my vote. Lowest DRA, most games pitched. Simple formula for me. on a results-based voting. Gallin's ERA is like eerily,
Starting point is 00:46:23 I mean, so close and they both have started all their games. Strowman's game logs, he's got one complete dud, but a day to finish the month, shut up versus the raise is pretty nice. And then he's got how many, how many zero earned runs? One, two, three,
Starting point is 00:46:42 four, and then one, two, like two or less he has 11, 10, 10, 10 starts, two or less.
Starting point is 00:46:53 Earned runs for Stroman. Galen has five zeros on his start log. And then he has one, two, three. So he's got eight total. If you don't count June of the two or less. Yeah. To Stroman's 10. It's a great argument.
Starting point is 00:47:14 I'm glad we got to the Stroman point because people would have been really mad if we didn't mention it. I'm going to keep Zat a gallon though. I'll go Stroman. Why am I last these days? Speak up. What's happened? Be quicker.
Starting point is 00:47:29 Dalton with the wins did move my pencil a little bit. That's fantastic. That's, no. Stromen doesn't really have the strikeout. I'll go Spencer Strider. Okay. That means Beaver comes into play, right? Is that the tiebreaker?
Starting point is 00:47:57 Usually. Okay. I'm on Galleon. Demon first helps. Wow, the incumbent stays. Congrats to snack, gallon. All right, moving on to the AL. Yes.
Starting point is 00:48:16 Trev's timeout is in there. That was three minutes. Catcher. Who we got? Who won last month? Can you do last month's winners? Last month in the AL, our catcher was Joanaheim, first base Yandi Diaz,
Starting point is 00:48:32 Simian at second base, Jorge Mateo at shortstop. Matt Chapman at. Third, our center fielder was Trout. The other outfielder's were Kelnick and a Roserana. Brent Rooker was the D.H. Taylor Wals was the U-Till, and Garrett Cole was our starting pitcher. He won't be back. Not Garrett's best May.
Starting point is 00:48:54 Alvarez was D.H. Brent Rooker. Oh, wow. Wow. He also won't be back. He also won't be back. He also won't be back. No returnees here.
Starting point is 00:49:05 Are there any landslides, Jake, that you went when you went through? this that we can breeze through real quick? If we're trying to check some boxes, I think second base in the American League is the easiest to check. Marcus Simeon has been out of his dome. He is in B-war.
Starting point is 00:49:25 He's in the mid-threes. While nobody else is in the ones. So, yeah, I speak now or forever hold your peace, but Marcus Simeon at second. Yeah, that's a lock. And that's a double with two pedals, so he's on his way. He has been awesome.
Starting point is 00:49:45 I think he's got a hit streak going, stolen base, his extra base hits. He's incredible. I think also DH, congrats Jordon. You're just, you're that guy, pal. Brent Rooker fell off. The kids are saying. Yeah, I mean, he's got Shohei beat as a DH. You know, sometimes Yordon tries to do a sneaky,
Starting point is 00:50:05 try to sneak in as an outfielder, which I don't know. If we've got that today, Pop, but Yordaun will be on the team. So I think those are the two boxes we can at least check for now. Yeah, Yuradon's close to being a 3-4-5 guy, but he's not. He's not. What's a 3-4-5 guy? What does that mean? Batting average 300 on base percentage 400.
Starting point is 00:50:28 Oh, I like that. Slugging 500. I like that. But yeah, all right, yeah, Yurdawn wins D. That's easy. I think that although, Jonah Hyme has put together a very nice season. Wow.
Starting point is 00:50:41 I love talking about him. The Rangers have been so good. I thought you were going to be so pissy about Jonah because he has an argument, but he's not the winner at the AL catching position. In my opinion, it's Adley Rushman at Bats. I love the walks to strikeouts.
Starting point is 00:50:59 You know that tickles me. 43 walks to 31 case. He also leads in homers. in runs, barely. I just think that he has changed an entire franchise. I know we're just talking about statistics through May here. It's hard to ignore that fact. 246 plate appearances compared to 190 for Jonah.
Starting point is 00:51:26 I'm going to Adley for the AL catcher. Yeah, I mean, it's very impressive. He leads the league in walks. He has, he leads all the, these catchers in games played, I think he sat two, it looks like four times this season. I mean, catchers don't play that much. He's a throwback to Yadi, Salvi, like that generation of
Starting point is 00:51:51 catchers who are playing. He's getting DH at bats when he's not yeah, Adley's the easy winner for me. It's good having those young knees. I know a dumper dudes up in Seattle, want a little cow rally love. He's been great. So is Salvi. I know we mentioned briefly on the way by. He's got the most ding-dongs of 528 slugging from Salvi. But Adley ends up winning out. The on-base stuff is insane what he's doing,
Starting point is 00:52:20 especially at this young. Where's he going to be in a couple years? Great job, Adley. Great job, Adley. First base, we do have a 3-4-5 guy in Yondi Diaz. He has just been lights out. I think that's a landslide, unless you guys have some weird argument that I can't foresee.
Starting point is 00:52:36 I mean, Rizzo gets some love because he's having. having a good season. Hot. You know, Rizzo was the guy everyone looked at and was like, is the shift restriction is going to help his average? So far, yes. He's hitting 304. Having a nice year.
Starting point is 00:52:50 But Yandi Diaz is hitting 310, the 410 on base percentage, and a 580 slugging. Walking more. Yeah. He's doing everything well. Yeah, I agree. Yondi is our guy. He's almost one dotting.
Starting point is 00:53:03 He's got a 180 WRC plus, which, until we get to, to the AL Outfield, wink, wink, I think might be the best we've seen. Yeah. Yondi's incredible. Now we're giving out a new pedal at shortstop since Mateo fell off. Had a crazy April and a bear. And you do have another guy in the mid-threes in war, Jake.
Starting point is 00:53:31 Another A&D from TBR, Wander, Franco. I'm hoping somebody takes the cheese because this is a delightful AL East matchup. Bo Bichette constantly just leads the American League and hits the past three years now. He's a hitting machine. Jim, you said you like that. He's not 3-4 and 5, but he's 333 batting average. That's pretty incredible.
Starting point is 00:54:01 A 525 slugging in 895 OPS. I would have to ask my Toronto. fans, how Bo's defense has been on the whole. I know there's usually highs and lows that come with it. I know last time I was watching him, I saw some of those highs and lows. The problem is he is dueling with Wander Franco, who I think his defense consistently is a little more there. Offensively, I was going to say on the whole is a little lesser than Boba Shep, but that is
Starting point is 00:54:34 before you get to our OPS. plus stat because Wander Franco has 20 stolen bases to Bo Bouchettes 2 and I think that is truly the difference maker here Wander hit a ball last night
Starting point is 00:54:53 and this was in June so it doesn't count but he hit a ball just a regular line drive to the left of center field or I guess to the right of center field excuse me and there was never a thought in his mind for it to be a single.
Starting point is 00:55:09 Out of the box double and he just cruised in there and you just see why he's such a dynamic player. He can really do it all on the field. And in a game where we had some stars, I mean, what the race
Starting point is 00:55:23 have been able to do, the numbers they had been able to put up, I thought Wander was Wander was the best player on the field. I think I'm going to go Wander here even though I really, really like, and I love Boba Bichette.
Starting point is 00:55:38 I love his swing. I think his, here's a compliment for Boba Chet. I think it's the prettiest swing in baseball right now. Do you care at all that Wander splits have him better home and away, and Boba Chet is just dominating home and away?
Starting point is 00:55:55 Does that do anything for you? It doesn't do enough for me. I'm voting Wander. He's got the base running and the defense. Bow's got him in the offensive stats, but OPSS plus our stat, whatever. The steals are so big, especially in the game right now, and defense in general at that position specifically. Yeah, Wander, I was to say, Lander, yonder, but then it is actually Wander,
Starting point is 00:56:21 leads an F-Wr and B-War as well. Yeah. I think that he's our choice. I don't know if you are going to vote differently, Jake. I already voted. Was the first vote. You did? What'd you say? I'm Wander. Oh.
Starting point is 00:56:36 So Wander wins. Jake pointed out the steals thing. Yeah, I heard that. Be more vocal this episode, will you? Yeah. Well, I'll be more vocal about this, Trev. The AL shortstop is in a really good position because the four guys listed on our sheet,
Starting point is 00:56:55 Jeremy Pena, 25, Bobby Witt Jr., 25. Boba Chette, 25, Wander Franco, 22. Which one of those guys would you let date your daughter? All of them, to be honest. Shortstop, bigly shortstop. Yeah, I mean, come on. You know, playing shortstop in the show, baby. I'd tell Bobby Witt to clean up the facial hair, but everyone's good.
Starting point is 00:57:24 Jeremy Paineo, wow, powerful thrust. I wish that would beat the crap out of you. Okay. Now maybe the ugliest position on the board. Or no, excuse me, that was NL 3rd Base. We actually have a good conversation at A.L. third base. Yeah, Chapman won. He had a great April.
Starting point is 00:57:44 His May wasn't as great, but his numbers are still good. But our guy, thick-necked Josh Young, has the average better than everyone else. He has OBP better than everyone besides Jose Ramirez. Josh Young has slugging better than everyone else, and he has the highest OPS. He has the second highest B-WAR, behind Chapman and the second highest F work behind Chapman
Starting point is 00:58:14 is the highest weighted runs created plus. So there's a little dance going on here for sure between Chapman, young, Esauk Paredes. I don't know if he's really dancing at all. But J-Ram, if you like him.
Starting point is 00:58:31 Lurking. Lurking for now. First time in the history of all JM team Devers is not in contention. Wow. Wow. what a run by him. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:58:43 I kind of like what Josh Young's got on this sheet. I can dig a little deeper, but that's my early lean. Jose Ramirez, I always like to mention 24 walks, 20 strikeouts. You know what he can do defensively. He's not going to get my vote this month. I think I'm going to go with Chapman. I think he's done enough cumulatively. bias the vote yeah i am biased i am trying to hang out with him in a couple days so he's like hey bro
Starting point is 00:59:17 if you don't vote for him i can't have he didn't say that no i think i think it is i mean look yes josh jung is right there and we love him too on this show he's a he's a fixture of talking baseball but if you're looking at extra base hits which i like out of my third baseman's got it 21 double seven homers that's 28 josh young with 24 gosh, he is driving in some runs, though. You misspoke. Chapman does have the OBP in this category as well, James, with the 366. My bad.
Starting point is 00:59:53 I think if you add up the player defensively, what they've done offensively, I think Chapman still wins, so I'm voting for Chapman. Chapman and Young have the same outs above average at third base, which is, and runs prevented. Which is kind of interesting. He looks apart at third. Yes. How about Brian Hayes?
Starting point is 01:00:12 His outside of average is nuts over at third base. He's freaky-deaky at third. J-Ram has both on beat. I'm going to go Young then. How do you like that? I mean, Young has Slug, right? He's got him on the slug. Josh Young's Slug is 531.
Starting point is 01:00:34 Third base. Yeah. I said in the NL. Good point. I like that position. I like Pop from my position. Josh Young, number one in A.L. Assists at third base.
Starting point is 01:00:45 Mm, a lot of balls hit. to you. He is making plays. Matt Chapman, number one in extra base hits in the AL. But he ain't slugging. Higher than Josh Young. Your AL third baseman.
Starting point is 01:01:10 Congratulations to first time winner, Josh Young. Hey, hey, hey. I have no problem with that at all. No problem with that. The Texas Rangers are a problem, people. And he's a big part of it, man. And Bochy. Look at their batting orders.
Starting point is 01:01:28 These old managers come in and just fucking go, oh, enough with your stupid tricks. This is my lead off guy. This is my tool guy. This is my third. And this is my fourth. And you can shut up. Nice when he's got those guys, too.
Starting point is 01:01:43 Well, you didn't know if these guys were going to be those guys. Josh Young, five whole every single game. Simian and it's eager. Yeah, that's very nice. Yeah. All right, outfield. We got to do center field first because it is a conversation. We have a lot of eligible center.
Starting point is 01:01:54 You got Kevin Kirmyer. You got Cedric Mullins the second, although he is hurt. You got Luis Robert and Mike Trout. And I... This is chaos. Think we might have two... We might have two outfielders that are centerfield eligible to come out of this. Let's just give Aaron Judge.
Starting point is 01:02:22 Let's just give Aaron Judge's pedal. Congratulations. You're one of our outfielers, right? We just snap that out. I mean, he's got a 679 slug. He's, it's pretty well-eured. You're in. You're in.
Starting point is 01:02:32 That's judgy. A 298 batting average, that hurts his 3-4-5 chances because it would have been a 3-4-6 guy. I really. Back to center field. I can't not do this. My vote for center field is going to KK. I know what he can do defensively. I know what he can do defensively.
Starting point is 01:02:55 And the fact, unless they're platooning him or not playing him a lot, the bats are kind of light. Very light. I love KK. He's been, and I was seeing if Trout's been playing like other outfield. He hasn't. Trout's been playing center.
Starting point is 01:03:15 I want to go see Kiermeyer. Oh, golly. Because the fact that Kiermeyer's on this list and doing what he does in Interfield is nuts. Because I think my other spot is going to be taken. So this is, for me personally, Kiermeyer and Trout, which how about Kevin Kiermire,
Starting point is 01:03:47 one year deal gets out of Tampa? Damn it. He's made some insane catches out there. I am voting for Kevin Kiermire. Because when going to bed the other night, I watched videos of him making catches. And that's just true. He just won center field?
Starting point is 01:04:12 No, Jimmy hasn't fully cast his ballot. You guys need to speak up. I've spoken for Kevin Kiermeyer. Yeah, I don't think I can do it. He doesn't start against lefties. He's not an everyday center field. Every day. He's a most of the day's players.
Starting point is 01:04:31 but he is in the 8 and 9 spot where Trout is an everyday centerfielder. Trout just doesn't play when Otani pitches because they're like whatever. Does the fact that Kevin Kirmire has a higher weighted runs created plus than Mike Trout do anything for you? It does, man. I was really, really thought I was going to vote Kiramire,
Starting point is 01:04:55 but I've kind of set my own things that I like. And you look at Trout and he's playing center field fucking, just nonsense. numbers are eerily similar. He's got 886 OPS to an 899 for Trout. He's got a 521 slug to a 522 for Trout. A 365 to a 369 OBP. Whoa.
Starting point is 01:05:19 Whoa. He's so much better defensively than Trout. Not that Trout's bad, but I mean, Keirmeyers. Keirmeier's got the highest outs above average as a center fielder today, right now. Might be the best to. Like ever do it has an argument. I'll go, I'll go, Keirmeier. I'm going to give him his due.
Starting point is 01:05:44 Center field. I will. Wow. We like our, we like defense in center field. We do. The catch he made the other day, might have been June. The catch he made the other day
Starting point is 01:05:56 made George Springer react like a little leaguer. George Springer has watched a lot of baseball. And he was shocked at the ball Kevin Kiermeyer got to. Yeah. I mean, he could. be you could take all of Keirmeier's slash line and drop it 20, 30 points on every one of them. And you'd be like,
Starting point is 01:06:16 shit, that's awesome to get that out of Keirmeier when you get the defense. So the fact that he's like really going. Are the Blue Day is winning? There are a couple games over 500. Might sneak up on the yanks soon. Nice. The final outfield position is brought to you by draft kings. Trev, stop it.
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Starting point is 01:07:11 We have Keirmeyer and center. Now there's a couple of guys here I think we're going to be talking about. And if Mike Trout doesn't win a pedal, is it the first time he's never won a pedal? He got hurt. He dazed last year, even with injuries. That was all center field. He did not pedal in May of 21.
Starting point is 01:07:35 He did not pedal. Yeah, 21, he was just out. 21, he got hurt. So when he's been playing. peddled every single year. It'd be the first time he's played and not peddled. Oh, my. This is history, possibly.
Starting point is 01:07:52 Because you're talking about Randy or Rosarania and Mike Trout, right? Might have another Ray in there too. Yeah. Might have a Ranger in there. Lowe's been better than Randy. Like, somewhat. Randy a lot more played appearances. Yeah, they platooned Lowe.
Starting point is 01:08:21 a chunk of it. This is probably the most difficult decision that we've had in all JM team history right here. It's silly. It's silly. It's silly that Adolis is barely in the conversation for how good he has been. If you like some of the old school numbers,
Starting point is 01:08:48 he might drive in 150 this year, part of that offense. Kellnick has fallen off a little bit. You remember he was involved in this? even doogie snuck on the bottom of the sheet his numbers ain't bad I'm voting randy a rosarana for our final outfield spot Travis the reason you did that is he has a 163 WRC plus
Starting point is 01:09:15 Jimmy mentioned his teammate Josh Lowe that's how we pronounce that one Josh Lowe has some crazy numbers even double the stolen bases as Randy He's got 13 stolen bases 3.04 average He's got higher average slugging and OPS than Randy and more stolen bases. Weighted runs created plus basically the same.
Starting point is 01:09:43 His Walker, it stinks. While Randy's getting on at a 407 clip. Jim, I... But he's got 11 homers and 12 doubles. Is he hitting against lefties at all? I remember they weren't playing him against lefties. The start of the year, he wasn't. I got too many tabs open.
Starting point is 01:10:04 And it's confusing because they have two lows, low low low. Right. The start of the year, he was not playing every day. Like, he didn't play a lot in, I don't know if he got hurt in April at all. He has been playing. Let me see. Yeah, didn't play against this lefty. He didn't play against this.
Starting point is 01:10:22 It doesn't play against lefties. 17 at bat's versus lefties. Fucking out. He gets per domoed. Raise. It's Randy for me, too. he's the best to ever do it. The only person that could take out Mike Trout,
Starting point is 01:10:41 fittingly enough, might be Randy a Roserina. Kevin Kiermeier, booted Mike Trout from the center field position on the all-JM team. I don't know if I agree with that. It's a massive moment. I don't know if I agree with us, but it's locked. Cast your vote. I cast in my vote.
Starting point is 01:11:01 that's oh man i'm talking about curemeyer so mad at us angels fans are you guys hate angels players angels can suck bud show hayes not going to get a pedal this i thought they were good grouse not going to get a pedal this month i thought when i said they had a bad offseason i was dumb as shit and they were actually really good cedric mullins robert barely get mentioned
Starting point is 01:11:24 my goodness my goodness we already gave our D.H position to Yordon. Can he pitch? What we have left is the util and the starter in the American League. In April, Taylor Walls won this. I think he's got some competition this month. And really here, we do have some real deal utility players
Starting point is 01:12:01 in the American League. Lots of guys going all over the place. Although, tear their walls. Is the utility or is he just a utility infielder? Hmm. Is the question.
Starting point is 01:12:15 Because you can say the same thing about Geo. He's played every single infield position, but no outfield. We got Whitmerfield with 13 games and left, mostly a second baseman. So I don't even know if I consider him. I guess I tried to punish Connor Joe for his utility being outfield.
Starting point is 01:12:32 Yeah. Yeah. Zach McKinstree has really been doing it, although most of his games during the infield, he's got nine games in right field. He's moved all over the infield. This is an interesting discussion for me. For me, it comes down to Walls and McKinstry, which, hello, all J.M.
Starting point is 01:12:50 Fire me up. You know, we talked about those second place tigers in May a little bit. A 400 on base for Zach McKinstree. Ten steals for him? For me, it's McKinstry. You got a middle infield spot. You got the hot corner. You got right field.
Starting point is 01:13:14 He in May became an everyday player and their leadoff hitter. And his numbers are crazy. So I'm going McKinstrey. Congratulations. Jack McKinstree. Yeah. Let's go, baby. Fire me up.
Starting point is 01:13:37 Are you pumped for Jake Marston? Excuse me Are you happy for him? Not really, you know I'm not the biggest Of the Jakes I saw him track down a ball the other day He's always been able to do that Okay
Starting point is 01:13:51 Big Fudge Excuse me That's what it says his nickname is Didn't know that Starting pitcher Shane McClan's the only one That got 12 games started on our list here And a 207 ERA
Starting point is 01:14:11 Sunny Gray has 11 games started to 194 ERA. Those are the two for me in contention because they have I mean Eovaldi is
Starting point is 01:14:21 what he's done he's been so dominant at points he's had a couple blow-up starts but for the most part just been ones and zeros
Starting point is 01:14:30 Jake if you remember my award that I gave him I do remember that the simulation award ones and zeros I will start off giving my vote
Starting point is 01:14:41 and you guys oh you're gonna be biased Sonny Gray has my vote He has the Lowest FIP Of any pitcher In this discussion And he has not allowed a home run yet
Starting point is 01:14:57 Not one Which I think has not really gotten me June doesn't exist Not one homer June doesn't exist Exactly Thank you I wish Mac didn't get
Starting point is 01:15:12 Owned by those Yankees Wow What a blight You'd have like a zero zero ERA, but it wasn't for those Bronx bombers. Sorry you have to face Higashioca every now and then. Shane. I'll go Sunny.
Starting point is 01:15:32 I mean, he's got the lowest ERA. It's one game difference, but we're looking at two months now, not one month. And Sonny didn't win it in May or April when he earned it. He's played some tougher teams because that was it. He had a really light schedule.
Starting point is 01:15:46 He's played some tougher teams. not crazy, too. I don't even know. Man, Sonny. Okay. He's neither. I'll go Sunny. It's just odd to look at Sunny and see the pedal winner and not see like one eight-inning start or like 7.2.
Starting point is 01:16:23 But it's not a knock. He's got two seven-inning starts. But, yeah, he's got a lot of, uh, A lot of five and fly Call it how you want to call it A lot of five and fly A lot of Only
Starting point is 01:16:39 Three times he's made it into the seventh inning One was June so doesn't count So two times he's made it Through the seventh inning And two times he's made it Through the sixth inning You would think you would see more Of those
Starting point is 01:16:53 Out of a pedal winner But his numbers are good His pitch count gets up there quickly He does walk a few people his whip is the highest well it's still just a 1.1 but he's been able to limit damage because he hasn't allowed a freaking home run
Starting point is 01:17:11 in today's day and age I mean you're talking about I mean you just look at 11 starts you look at Avaldi and it's just way more you know he's got two complete games he's got one he's got 1 8.2 outing he's got one eight inning outing
Starting point is 01:17:29 he's got one seven he's got 3 six so you're looking at eight starts where he completed the sixth inning. And on Sunny Gray, it was... My vote goes to Nathan Evaldi. I'm Vivaldi. That game log is very... That game log is very impressive. He's doing way more to help his bullpen
Starting point is 01:17:46 and still getting like similar... Like every game, you're getting a winning effort. Sorry, Sonny. I thought I was voting for you. But that swayed me. The numbers on Sunny are really good, but I haven't seen like a game log of a guy who's like pitched. Look like this. It's just a weird...
Starting point is 01:18:03 It's interesting. He just gets a weird pitch. pitch gun up there. Of all the Sunday's been great. 11 starts each of them. Avaldi has 14 more innings. Yeah, I wonder if you do.
Starting point is 01:18:16 It does. I don't mind you guys picking any about them. I'm happy you did. I just gave him my simulation award. Like this guy has been absolutely lights out. All right. There you have it. All JM team April through May is final.
Starting point is 01:18:32 Appreciate you. We got them all right. All of them are right. I can't believe you did it. My favorite player. No angels, no mariners? Uh-oh. We got a tiger, though.
Starting point is 01:18:49 And a pirate.

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