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Starting point is 00:00:01 Hello and welcome to Talking Baseball. We're in it, people. Everyone has a win. Everyone has a loss. There's a no hitter. A team is playing in Sacramento. Let's talk ball. Hello and welcome to Talking Baseball presented to you by Seat.

Starting point is 00:00:32 Geek. My name is Jake Storelli. His name is Trevor Ploub. BBD behind the dish. Over a week into the baseball season. Luckily, that packed house in Flushing got to see the Mets get their first win and the Tigers get their first loss, that everyone's in it now.

Starting point is 00:00:54 Every fan base knows what it feels like to get that in and out of the way. Trevor Plouffe, how are you doing, man? I'm a little mental health check. Well, everyone on the YouTube right now, I currently look like a cursed image through on the John Boy Reds jersey, a gift from Tucker Barnhart. a couple years ago. A big Johnboy media guy,

Starting point is 00:01:19 now on the snakes. I was looking like a bat boy because I was wearing my Yankees jersey with a Yankees hat. Going opening day in a little bit at the stadium, so excited for that. Trev, I've seen a lot of, oh God, and I just said everyone's got to win.

Starting point is 00:01:35 Everyone has a loss. That's not true. It's not true. Not everyone has a little bit. Wow. Okay, well, we just lost all of our Marlins listeners, but we, We've kind of been mad at them ever since that jazz chis and Mickey Row thing.

Starting point is 00:01:49 But Trev, you've been getting dragged by our social team, dog. Are you okay? Like, yeah, like, what started that? I must have made somebody mad at. And who's running it? Let me just tell you something. You know, that's not Tay Jack? Is that Kyle?

Starting point is 00:02:03 Like, what's going on? I'll check, dude. When they get hot on something, they just, they don't stop. I think it's Kyle. Kyle, you know, he's got all his little minions coming after me. It's fine. I can take it. I can handle it.

Starting point is 00:02:16 I would like some highlights of my career posts. You do have highlights, too. Yeah, you were an average player. It's just as much good as bad. Thank you, B, B, B, B, D. You look like Aaron Boone right now. If he went through his closet, and just put on some shit.

Starting point is 00:02:30 Remember? Can you do, like, the strikeout thing? There's that picture I am doing it. I can do that. How we doing? I'm doing great, dude. This is early morning app. I guess it's only 15 minutes earlier than usual,

Starting point is 00:02:45 but I don't know, man. Like baseball's hot. I'm excited. The season's kind of like, so I guess not in full swing yet, but I think there's enough to diagnose a few different teams. My twins are struggling offensively, so I'm going to get in there and maybe make a call

Starting point is 00:03:01 and say, hey, guys, this is what you got to do. No, I'm never going to do that. Shout out Dick Bremmer, though. Shout out Dick Bremmer. My guy got the TV broadcasting booth at Target Field named after him, and he threw up the first pitch to Joe Mower. It really was a nice ceremony for him,

Starting point is 00:03:14 so I do want to actually give them a shout-out. So there it is, Dick. Hey, and how about as we're giving shout-outs, the Central Division's currently pulling their weight. I'm happy for you. And, like, there's, I don't know, I'm hoping that becomes a conversation of this season is that we went through this off-season

Starting point is 00:03:31 and it was like, man, the NL Central, anyone can win it. The AL Central, your Twinkies are the favorite, and then everyone else can get involved, basically. And I don't know, I'm hoping that we ignored the fact that I do think a lot of these teams got better than last year. So if the NL Centrals can be balanced but a step up,

Starting point is 00:03:54 I think the product of baseball, like any given night, you can kind of look at 15, 20 ball clubs that got some, I don't know, maybe hope is just too much in the air for me right now. You need everybody, listen up, this is a little PSA announcement, okay? Everyone needs to stop talking crap about the central divisions. Okay, like yes, like any division, they might have a bad team or two at the bottom.

Starting point is 00:04:21 But like that is everywhere. Okay, there's some good teams there. Let me ask you something. How did Eno Seris pick the pirates to make the playoffs this year? What is going on with him? Why does he know things that nobody else knows? Eno always knows, bro. Yeah, they, uh, if they keep this hot month going,

Starting point is 00:04:40 and they'll just need a little more because they did do it last year. Let's start talking some ball and let's talk about the Draft King Sportsbook. It's time for fans to head to the ballpark. I'm doing it today. Trev did it on Monday and go root for whatever baseball team you want to root for.

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Starting point is 00:05:50 Void in Ontario. Bonus bets expire 168 hours after issuance. See dkng.com slash baseball for eligibility and deposit restrictions, terms, and responsible gaming resources. Yes, Trev. Begin of Draft Kings, I got a request out to CAA to use their Dodger Stadium tickets. They're very nice. Okay. Yes or no, that's the bet

Starting point is 00:06:14 that I get them. Oh, well, CAA, uh, depends who's coming to town. Well, I'm trying to go to the Padre series. That's the, uh, uh, on a weekend. Hmm. Padre's weekday. A time's that game.

Starting point is 00:06:31 Padre's weekday, I think I got you. I said Saturday or Sunday. You gave them options, so that's good. That was, uh, Yeah. The ticket game's always so funny, man. I had a buddy. It's supplying demand.

Starting point is 00:06:46 Okay, a little business early on. Someone was like, hey, Yankees game Saturday night. The weather's bad and it's the final four is on, especially like Yukon, that my buddy basically was already in like. Hey, I got tickets to work. Anyone want to go? And everyone was like, kind of not, man. Like, let me know in the summer. And I'll see you there.

Starting point is 00:07:08 Let's talk some National League Baseball, please. Please. Trev, your CAA Los Angeles Dodgers. They sweep the San Francisco treat, the Giants. And I think we're going to hear this a lot this year, man, because the first game, Mookie and Freddie combined for five hits. The second game, Mookie and Freddie combined for five hits. These guys are out of control.

Starting point is 00:07:39 Otani homers in the last game. They even hit a, they beat Logan Webb, and they've kind of had Logan Webb's number a little bit, and they beat them, and this is kind of gross to me, a Ryan Brazier opener with our guy, Ryan Yarber as the bulk guy. My goodness. The Dodgers did what Dodgers do. They sweep the Giants.

Starting point is 00:08:00 We'll talk about that one a little bit. My Cincinnati Reds, they take two. out of three from the Phillies, a tight one in the first game. We're going to Buenos Contos. And there's Spencer Steer. Grand Slam in the 10th inning. That'll about do it, huh? The first Reds Grand Slam and extra since?

Starting point is 00:08:23 The Todd Father, Todd Frazier. Bryce Harper followed that up with a three-home-er-day. Love that, Ricardo Pinto. Drive to the game. You're pitching the final four innings, dude. That's some fun. And the Reds took it in the rubber match. Six hits, five of them, extra bases.

Starting point is 00:08:41 And how about Frankie Montas? Twirling the damn pill in Cincinnati. Little rain in that one. There was a lot of rain all around the league. The Cardinals and your Padres teed up for three. And the Cardinals took the first two games. Gippy, seven innings to earn runs. Yep.

Starting point is 00:09:01 The boys were hitting off of knuckleballer Matt Waldron in that first game. The second game, the cards take. Wilson Contreras, his second day with a two-run homer. We like that from the catcher spot. The Padre salvaged on the last one. Joe Musgrove pitching. Kyle Higishioca. My guy, he throws out two base runners.

Starting point is 00:09:22 He hits a home run. How about that from your backup guy behind the dish? And congrats to Jackson Merrill, his first show, Homer. Cubs sweep the Rockies. This might be another thing you hear a lot this year. We talked about Imanaga's debut a little bit in the midweek episode. They had a little opener follower with some alliteration on the final game. Luke Little opens Ben Brown with the bulk, babe.

Starting point is 00:09:50 They get it done there. Christopher Morel keeps hitting homers. I saw him on a list of, I think it was Bel, or who was it? Chris Bryant and someone else for most homers in 200 Cub games or whatever. That's a bad stat. Here's a good stat. The Pittsburgh Pirates stay hot, hot, hot. They take two out of three from the Nats.

Starting point is 00:10:13 They take the bread games. Marco Gonzalez does enough while that lineup be hitting. The boys are getting on base, I think, at like a 381 clip early on this year. And then Martine Perez, 6.2 to earn runs. while Brian Reynolds and Connor Joe's been doing a lot of hitting this season Pirates, they get their first loss, but they are six in one and feeling good about it. Eno Seris always knows, and that's what happened in the national league.

Starting point is 00:10:49 Why does Eno know things? Dude, I... Oh, stuff plus. You know, maybe we'll save this for an August episode, but maybe we'll build out our front office. You know, I just watched Moneyball with my... kids last night. Yeah, how'd that go? They loved it. They loved it.

Starting point is 00:11:08 Yeah? Really? My daughter's like, is he going to get fired, Daddy? Maybe they should fire that. Sequels gonna suck. Do you think him and John Henry actually sat down at Fenway and had like a coffee and talked about Bill James and dinosaurs? Like, I don't know. I think once you're that level and you're that kind of deep in it, I don't know. I don't know. Sound off below.

Starting point is 00:11:39 Treve, I mean, the two, you know, we're trying to get a little more topical. Because we, again, peeling back the curtains, you guys know your team better than us. There's times when we're talking about game two between the Reds and the Pirates that we kind of felt dumb because we're just reading a box score. So we want to hit some big topics. Dodgers are a big topic. and they're going to be all season. They give the Giants the business early on.

Starting point is 00:12:09 Two, five, four games to wind it down. And I know I think we might be hearing a little bit about Mookman later. You know, I don't want to give anything away, but I don't know. Anything you want to hit with your dot, or anything that's not obvious with these Dodgers? Well, I'll say about the series. The Giants are a dang good team.

Starting point is 00:12:33 Like, they're going to be a. good team. They just ran into a buzz stop. The Dodgers are kind of buzzing right now. People are you know, they're at home for the home opener and they're going, man. I mean, yes, we know about the top three of the lineup, but the complimentary pieces have been really good as well. And you were on to Oscar, the signing early on. He's been doing his thing. They've been getting good pitching performances. I mean, James Paxton. I saw him. I didn't know who was pitching. I went to the game. I was, oh, James Paxton's pitching. And I was talking to my buddy. He's like, yeah, he's not gonna, like he'll throw a little bit and, you know, we'll see, we'll see how far he can go.

Starting point is 00:13:06 He goes five innings. Yeah, five innings, five leagues, five walks. Five walks, too. So he had through a lot of pitches. Yeah. Like, they just, they just kind of have a little bit of everything going on right now for them. It's, it's really, it's really incredible to watch because people say, oh, like, I think the word that people use to describe their lineup is relentless, and it kind of just feels that way. Like, somebody is. going to get you. Yeah. And like if it's like a tight rope back man, like you have to be on your game one through nine.

Starting point is 00:13:39 Like you can't you can't give in in any certain any because it'll snowball on you. That's really what it feels like watching this team. Yeah. And I, you gave me a little credit there for Tay Oscar. You know, Tay Oscar did get, I think 24 and a half milly this year. So I, you know, probably not my team. But he wasn't under the radar signing. It really was.

Starting point is 00:14:00 Well, that's the thing. You know, I, I think. him in, you know, were him in Soler in similar buckets? Like, I think Soler has a little more pop potential, but Teasster can kind of play the outfield every day, that Teosker took a one-year deal and is kind of betting on himself, and it currently looks great. You know who got the save in that last game for the Dodgers?

Starting point is 00:14:23 De Nilsson Lemette, that's a name, you know, not to go full Obi-Wan. That's a name I haven't heard around these parts in a long time. but if I see a name like that in the Dodgers bullpen getting some outs, that'll scare you a little bit. I think I saw someone tweet, he's got like two clean appearances, and everyone just tweeted like, all right, Dodgers did it again. That's messed up. Yeah, right.

Starting point is 00:14:46 The stats that we have on our page that just says exactly kind of encapsulating what teams that face the Dodgers are going to have to deal with is they've scored five runs, at least five runs, in all nine games they played in this season. It's a problem. That's a problem. We're talking about the Blue Jays going how long without a freaking hit.

Starting point is 00:15:10 Yeah. And here are the Dodgers scoring five runs in every single game. I mean, they're going to be a problem. We know that. And I think I took the under on their win total, and that's freaking me out a little bit. But, you know, long season ahead. Yeah, I always go on my lineup depth ramps.

Starting point is 00:15:26 And, you know, when I talk about my Cincinnati Reds, I'm like, how about Jake Fraley in that six hole? and then I'm looking at Teosker and Muncie, and it's like, well, the Dodgers season rolls on. And yeah, if you're the Giants, like Jungle Lee's been hitting, Solair hit a little bit, Patrick Bailey. So I don't know. They have a squad there.

Starting point is 00:15:48 They're going to be okay. Anytime I think you come away from a Dodgers series, you kind of got to wipe that and be like, all right, let's hope we get something better next time. Trev, how about, I think I found my way to, make this a little more topical with the other national league games because all of them do have a central team. The Reds, the Cardinals, the Cubs, the Pirates.

Starting point is 00:16:14 They all won. Wow, how about that? And, hey, we only have the data we have right now. We have seven or eight games from these teams. And I don't know, I guess I gushed a little bit at the start of the show, but I did tilt my head last night and I was like, when I did the Pirates, TPP,

Starting point is 00:16:36 I was hell-bent on taking the under because I need more unders. And then I looked at the lineup and I was like, okay, like I kind of believe, like the Pirates lineup felt like it got better. The Reds had a sneaky, nice little off-season. I think they spent over 100 mil, and they got a year older.

Starting point is 00:16:54 The Reds got better. The Cubs, you know, they've got a bunch of top prospects. They went out. They got better. The Cardinals had to be better, right? So I'll pitch it to you wide and see where you want to zoom. I think the pirates have kind of taken a little bit of the headlines because they're off to another hot start. But Trev, you have me drinking a little Central Kool-Aid.

Starting point is 00:17:17 The Kool-Aid's good in the Central, man. Talk about, you know, the Reds go into Philadelphia. They take two out of three. You know, Frankie Montauce, what does he bring to the team? You know, he's healthy. he's throwing the ball really well the line there was five and two thirds with one earned run I mean this is against

Starting point is 00:17:32 a very good Phillies lineup if he is healthy then you got you got yourself a rotation Andrew Abbott went out and had a good start against them as well like I think that's the thing that we always question like the offense even with all the injuries that they've had like it's still

Starting point is 00:17:48 there and you asked that question last night like what should we talk about one of the replies was let's talk about the twins trade for Tyler Malley and who they gave up. Owie! Not that the twins necessarily needed more position players, I feel like they do have enough

Starting point is 00:18:05 at the Bigby level and the AAA level, but their offensive style a little bit. And here, you know, you got freaking Spencer Steer hitting a Grand Slam. And Cardinstein Strand hitting a walk-off home run.

Starting point is 00:18:16 It's like, the Reds are going to be fun to watch all year. I think Montas is a huge, huge plus if he can, you know, just be healthy. People forget how good this guy, can be. I believe 2021 was in the big year.

Starting point is 00:18:29 2022, he had a good year with the A's before getting traded over to your Yanks. And then, you know, he's following the sunny gray pattern. That's what people are saying. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:18:41 So that's a big, that's a big plus for them. As far as the pirates go, like they're kind of like doing it in all facets, man. Like their lineup be hitting. We've got a lot of guys contributing up and down,

Starting point is 00:18:55 which is nice to see again. like, you know, it's early in the season, but we're getting a lot of good performances offensively. Defensively, like they've improved a ton. Like, just having O'Neill Cruz back at shortstop is used for them, a full season of Triolo at second base. Like, they got, they got dudes that can go do it. So I think that coincides with, you know, the pitching's been good.

Starting point is 00:19:15 The bullpen's been really good. And here we are. Like, again, at the beginning of the season, talking about these pirates who I think, like, the way they've been winning has kind of like been the most sustainable way, like it's just kind of been coming from all sorts of different areas on their team. We did look at the roster. We did say, okay, it looks a little bit better.

Starting point is 00:19:35 It looks a little bit different. But you got to go out and play the games. And so far what we saw in the preseason, we're seeing show up on the field early on. So it's really, it's nice to see, man. And right now, you couldn't guess who's going to win the NL Central. And I love that for baseball. No, and I think it hit a sad. It hit a little bit of a sad note at times last year because you were looking at, well, outside of the brewers, like again, the brewers deserve respect.

Starting point is 00:20:03 They've been a well-run organization, and they are four-in-one, so we'll get to them. But, yeah, Pittsburgh's getting on base, currently leading baseball and getting on. The Reds are first and so on it. I guess that's the other fun start. These teams kind of play different brands of ball that if they can continue to stay elevated, I think that's, I think that's really good for baseball. and a fun watch. Like the Pirates have been on base and bullpen. The Reds, you guys know, I love their lineup depth.

Starting point is 00:20:34 And I think, you know, we saw it with Texas last year that there's a point where Texas had nine MLB starting pitchers on their roster that you knew. And that's where the Reds are kind of a light version of that, where, you know, they got some guys healthy. They've got some guys in AAA. I think Lodolo is rehabbing right now. Like, you know, Richardson pitched a little bit for them last year that, hey, if Montas clicks, cool.

Starting point is 00:21:04 And then if he gets banged up or has a rough week, then it's kind of on to the next guy that they have options to pitch, which I think that's part of my new regular season formula, have a lot of, have good offense and then have pitching options and something will figure itself out. Again, I don't think that's too analytical. Yeah, I think a little love to the Cubs You know, I know it's the Rockies And we're always going to say, oh, it's the Rockies But you go and I believe it was the home opener Right?

Starting point is 00:21:38 Yeah, we got the electric pyrotechnic show Oh yeah, yeah, that was something to marvel at. You know what though? Like if I'm a ballplayer, I don't want sparks Just flying a little place when I'm running out. Okay, put those getting away from me. Nice. It's way from me.

Starting point is 00:21:55 Baltimore does massive flames. I don't know why. I feel like I saw so many home openers in Baltimore during my times, and they put like flames out there. Like big dog. Here's this, here's like the starting pitching the Cubs put out there against the Rockies.

Starting point is 00:22:13 Shoda, Imanaga, my guy, my pick to win, Enno rookie of the year, went out and carved them up in some really tough weather, 9Ks. The strikeout stuff from him has been nuts. Javier Assad, who's like such a fun watch,

Starting point is 00:22:27 six innings pitch, zero and runs. And then they use an opener and then had a bolt guy. And between Luke Little and Ben Brown, five innings pitched, one earned run. We're doing it, people. Yeah, I am going to put the slightest Rockies asterisk right now because, my God, it's been a tough, tough go for my rocks there. But we got Rocky's opening today.

Starting point is 00:22:52 Kelsey Wingard on the sideline yet, there's the, for those on the YouTube, there's the Cubs Pyrotechnic show, which is, uh, yeah, it's almost, it's almost why bother a little bit. But hey,

Starting point is 00:23:04 that's, uh, that's fun. Uh, Rocky's opening day. Everyone have a blast. Beautiful day in Colorado. I saw Kelsey's,

Starting point is 00:23:11 Kelsey's parents were out, supporting their daughter. So, like, I want that relationship with Iowa when she goes up. They have such a great relationship. That's why Kelsey's the best. That's the best.

Starting point is 00:23:23 Um, cards pods yeah that that series kind of happened cards got a couple pitching outings that's what they were looking for last year they've got an interesting little stretch coming out surrounded by a couple off days Miami Philly and yeah it looked like the the Cubbies I think they're I think they're going on the road to the Dodgers and someone else I think Dodgers are going to the Cubs Dodgers to the Cubs sorry and then they hit the road for San Diego Seattle so let's uh again we're going to be finding out more about these all these teams

Starting point is 00:23:53 in the coming days. Let's jump to the American League. I got one more thing on the Cardinals Padres. There are a couple fun things that happened. You talk about Higgie throwing out two runners. I believe the first one was, who were the two runners? Beams, can you look that up for me?

Starting point is 00:24:15 The first one, whoever it was, went in sliding feet first. I was like, oh, that guy's not a base dealer. You just don't. I used to slide in feet first And I wasn't a base stealer So I think that can go two ways I think you're right

Starting point is 00:24:32 I think for the non-base dealer base dealer I do think if you're a legit base dealer If you can do kind of the trade turner Just stay on the bag I think there's a cool way to do it too I believe the two guys are Donovan And Nolan Aeronado So that's Aeronado not a base stealer

Starting point is 00:24:51 I think it was Aeronado that went in feet first and I was like, this is, I know the feeling, bro. You're like, if I slide head first, am I going to get there? Do I have enough speed to get there? If you're saying, Louis, I don't know if that's your speed combo you want. But then also, at the end of the game, Roberto Suarez comes in, or Robert Swartz comes in, excuse me, and... Five outs, I think. Five outs save. And after the game, there was the Musgrove quote, like, it's really nice to have a guy willing to go out there.

Starting point is 00:25:21 and it's more than one inning. Like a little shots fired at Josh Hader. My first take on it was, I don't know if he really meant that or if he was just pumping up his boy for doing it. It kind of like, when I'm really thinking about, it is kind of like shots fired there. Yeah, we, you know, Ryan Cohen is,

Starting point is 00:25:39 he's a part of our, we now have a resident Padres fan in the office. He's helping out with our socials. Kind of a hot boy, Ryan is like a weird way? He's in there. He's a type for sure. He's a type. He's a type.

Starting point is 00:25:51 Him and Jack Doyle are cousins. Yeah. You know, he had some comments about Hater, and I think Padres Nation felt a little bit that, dude, I got checked this offseason. You guys know if I get called out, I'd have that little defensive short guy mechanism for a second. They're like, you want to do this?

Starting point is 00:26:10 And then, dude, Hater didn't, did not do one-plus outings. And, like, in my head, that was one of the biggest perks of Hater. or like, hey, if you need a grindy five-out finish, who else would you want? And that kind of wasn't in his bag. So I don't, I don't if that was free agency. I don't know if he felt his performance got hurt by it.

Starting point is 00:26:33 But yeah, I mean, that's a shot across the ballot. I think I remember at one point of being a thing that he kind of asked not to do it because he felt like if he can just be a traditional clothes or rack up some saves, that's what's going to get him paid. It did. And there was, like, people thinking, but he never said anything that, like, when he gets his people. payday maybe he'll go back to doing that

Starting point is 00:26:52 since money's money's gotten it's in the bank one more cardinals thing on those steals the Aeronado one with the bad slide Ollie Marmold might have done the rudest thing he's done as a manager he challenged the play unsuccessfully

Starting point is 00:27:11 so they just had to sit there and watch him slide for a while it's Aranato don't do that too Nolan just pick the ball third baby hit some homers and here's the tag Lexus Diaz with a five-out save during the Nats. Let's jump over to some American League baseball, huh? America, yep.

Starting point is 00:27:33 Speaking of a couple teams with Trev's fingerprints all over them, his Texas Rangers versus his Tampa Bay Rays. Yeah, Trev, yeah. Rangers, they take the bread games. How about it? Dane Dunning. A couple innings left, couple innings right. Right. 6.1, 3 earned runs.

Starting point is 00:27:55 Josh Young with a big game, but also an injury. I think he's going to miss a chunk of time. We don't love that. Adolus with a homer in that game. Led Zefflin and Esauk Paredes the next day put in some big boy efforts. And then Nate Doggivaldi makes it regulate seven innings. Shutout. Corey Seeger Homer.

Starting point is 00:28:16 Yeah, that checks out. Rangers get their business done in the trop, by the way. Not always an easy place to get it done over there. The Blue Jays and the Astros, man. The Astros dominated 2.8 games, but they got two wins. The Blue Jays, they steal the middle game. Davis Schneider, Babe Ruth Schneider takes one. Was that off a hater?

Starting point is 00:28:42 Oh boy, tough hater, huh? Oh, yeah, and that first episode, first game, Ronel Blanco with the no-hazard. hitter. Welcome to the season, dude. Fun story there. We're going to talk about that. They won that game 10-0, and they took the final game eight. Oh, man, my guy, the Basset Hound has been getting banged up a little bit early on. Yordaun Alvarez. Is our whole building shaking BBB? Is that an earthquake? We'll circle back on that. You feel that, right? Maybe we'll, building might be coming down. We'll check on that later. Chris Rose,

Starting point is 00:29:21 Cleveland Guard Dogs. They take two out of three from Seattle. How do you like that? The guard dogs have been swinging the stick this season. Bo Naler, two for four. Brian Rochio, sure, the bottom of the lineup, bringing the noise. And then J. Ram Kwan in that final game, with some special pitching from Logan Allen and Shane Bieber. Mariners drop another series. Canzone homered in that first game. Julio Rodriguez made. a couple catches, but guard dogs. That central hype train is rolling, but it stops rolling here for a little bit.

Starting point is 00:29:58 The Baltimore Orioles, they go bread game. It's been a bread life. A couple walk-offs from the birds, that top prospect middle infielder for the Orioles, Jordan Westberg walk-off to run home run. He's like your fourth Orioles top prospect. And then your Orioles stud catcher with the walk-off in the final game, James McCann. So the birds come at you in different ways.

Starting point is 00:30:26 Royals fans, some good news. Alec Marsh shoved in the middle game and Michael Garcia, along with obviously Bobby Whip, but Michael Garcia has been going off early on for them. Trev thinks this is a budding rivalry. Maybe we'll talk about that. Probably not a budding rivalry, but how about the Sox kid? They round off the West Coast road trip by sweeping the Oakland Athletics. They handled their bidness.

Starting point is 00:30:53 That's all you ask. They blow them out in the first game. The second to 11 innings in that middle game and then a 1-0 full pension Piv and the Sox bullpen. Hold on. It got a little scary late. Chicken Strips was pitching well for Oakland. J.J. Bladay and Landjolier with some homers. But the Sox, how about it, an early West Coast trip to start the year?

Starting point is 00:31:18 We saw some Trevor story signs. Rafael. The kid is making some highlight real plays for them. Jaron Duran. My goodness. He's all over the box score. Sox. They get the sweep and they're winning early on. And that's what happened in the American League. Yeah, we had an earthquake. Was that an earthquake? That's what everyone on Twitter's saying.

Starting point is 00:31:42 That's nuts. I saw the camera shaking. Dude, the building was shaking. New York has a text. And I went to Twitter and everyone said, whoa, New York City earthquake. Because New York have earthquakes. Maybe you got a pulse check from the office. See the level of panic out there? Like, what?

Starting point is 00:32:01 I want you to be safe, but like if you like fell over or something and like something toppled behind you, that's kind of cool for our show. Dude, we were. I saw it. That's a little nutty, man. I don't know if I felt that before. Maddie Mass is in the room now. Are we fracking and upstate New York or something? Are you okay, Maddie?

Starting point is 00:32:22 How's the office? Dude, it was like... You can like, when this app comes out, I think you'll see it shaking. Whoa. I kind of liked it. Also, what hurt me, Justin Penick, was in our live stream lounge,

Starting point is 00:32:38 which I can see out of the corner of my eye, and he did like a big guy bolt. Like, big guy doesn't like this. Imagine you dying in that outfit. If I die in this fit, I am Aaron Boone's favorite person. That's good news. Dude, earthquake eclipse?

Starting point is 00:32:55 They would know who you are because you have your monogram on your... I would be easy to identify. So let's get away from that. Trev in the AL, man, we gave this a little love in the midweek. We need to give it actually proper love now because we kind of didn't.

Starting point is 00:33:12 Rono Blanco, no hitter. I know we, no hitters have been, they've been a little more prevalent that has taken a little bit the punch out of them. But I'm not going to knock this dude, and he's got a cool story. And the Astros in general, they kind of gave the J's the business in this series. So I'll let I'll let you go on that.

Starting point is 00:33:36 Yeah, first I love that this was Joe Espada's first manager win was a no hitter. They had to really get it done for this guy. I'm happy for him there. But Rennell Blanco is just, yeah, it's just a great story. I think people probably have heard most of it by now because this did happen a little bit ago. But this guy, backstory with him, wasn't really going to make the team, even the roster, get a couple of injuries, you know, Verland or Akiti. So he ends up in the starting rotation. I think he just had a baby a couple days before the season.

Starting point is 00:34:13 So he's kind of like riding that high, making the roster, having a baby. And then all of a sudden you get here and the guy throws a no hitter on 105 pitches Almost has the Maddix Only walks George Springer Twice. That was the only base runners he allowed And just a masterful game They were calling him Ronelle Cambio Blanco

Starting point is 00:34:32 Because he started throwing that change up a lot more this year But this dude was an afterthought Down there in the DR He signed at 22 years old for $5,000 Because a scout saw him when he was scouting Julio Rodriguez. I love those stories, right? One, he was practicing baseball during that time.

Starting point is 00:34:53 He was also working at a car wash, like, to make ends meet. I just, I love stories like this. And Chris Rose asked me, like, what does this mean for him going forward? Like, what does a note hitter do for you in your career? Chris Rose asked you that? Of course. Of course, you know. The worst best questions ever.

Starting point is 00:35:14 I'll tell you what it does. It gives you opportunity. man. Yeah. Like he's going to get an opportunity either to stay in the starting rotation for the Astros. You know, he's going to have a few more starts here, obviously. And then, you know, when the injuries or the people come back from the injured list, like he'll have a spot because he's shown that he's been able to do it while making adjustments.

Starting point is 00:35:35 Like he's, I like that he's made meaningful adjustments and like reaping the rewards of that. So, I mean, the guy was, it was awesome to see. and I'm happy for him and 22 years old signing that's like unheard of in the DR you're talking about guys

Starting point is 00:35:54 that are typically signing much younger 16 to 18 years old this guy was just kind of like paid his dues and all of a sudden now we're getting the no hitter and man like look he's in he's in the record books

Starting point is 00:36:04 forever now and I love that for him he uh yeah I mean I was just I was on a little bit of a you know Houston's rotation is not what it looks like. We're always wondering, teams can't last forever.

Starting point is 00:36:20 It's never happened. And here's, here's Ron El Blanco. How many times have we said that about them? All of a sudden, Framber Valdez just showed up and was like, oh, here's their ace for the foreseeable future. Like, it's crazy, dude. Yeah. Yordon goes off in the final game.

Starting point is 00:36:40 Kyle Tucker's been going. these are your Houston Astros. I guess is there any Blue Jays commentary that you want to add? They're currently three and four. I mean, they just, you know, they just played Houston. The offense has been struggling a little bit. I don't know. I guess is, again, still very early in the season.

Starting point is 00:37:01 Is there anything you're seeing or concerning? I mean, yeah, the offense struggled this series for sure. And I mean, I don't think that's going to be the case over 162. A lot of people can bat me on that. I'm like, I think the Blue Jays offense has a potential to be pretty damn good. And some people say, well, have you been watching the games? And I'll say to them, it's still very early on in the season. I do love that they snuck out one win.

Starting point is 00:37:25 That means something. Schneider with the two-run jack off a hater. And before that at bat, it was Justin Turner. I was watching this live. And Justin Turner was 0 for 10 with 5Ks against Hater. And he worked to walk. I don't even think he swung the bat in that. I think it was like a five-pitch walk.

Starting point is 00:37:45 He gets on and Hader hangs a slider to Schneider. And he hit the shit out of it, man. Babe Schneider. Look, look, it's a bad series for them. Is there a baseball term? You get no hit, but you salvage one game and I think you just keep it rolling. Is there a baseball term for if you get a walk without swinging the bat? Because I feel like we need that.

Starting point is 00:38:07 Stalt take. The pedestrian walk? Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. I like it. Yeah, I don't know. Blue Jays, I guess here's what I'll say. The formula, one of the things I loved about the Blue Jays was their bullpen,

Starting point is 00:38:23 and two of the guys on the back end are Romano and Swanson, and they're both currently on the IL. So that has changed their bullpen depth chart a lot. They got a hit. And, you know, after seven games, I'm not saying the Blue Jays are going to hit this year, because I think they're going to. but that lineup does get a little thin on the back end.

Starting point is 00:38:44 So I don't know. Let's see, Blue Jays at the Yankees. I'll get a look at them in person today, Seattle, and then let's check in. They get a little Colorado at home in about a week and a half, so that can help the stats a little bit. How about Justin Turner, casually hitting 318, 423, 636 for a one daughter?

Starting point is 00:39:04 Who would have thought? Everybody. Stay's hitting. Stay's hitting. Travis, the other, well, we got a couple topics in the AL. I guess socks pitching. I think we might be talking about that a little later on. And there is, there's the slightest Oakland A's caveat here, but Boston, that's the question.

Starting point is 00:39:30 Are we talking about the pitching later or now? Let's talk about it later then. Okay. Do you want any A's, well, do you want any A's Sacramento? no talk. I'm so confused on when we're talking about the Boston Red Sox pitching. Are you talking about it? Not later.

Starting point is 00:39:47 Okay, then let's talk about it now. Okay. I was like, what are talking? I didn't think you were. Unless it's your word, I don't know. No, no, no, no. Oh, no. Well, dude, we both need to just, I think at least I do, need to say, I'm sorry.

Starting point is 00:40:01 Okay. To the Boston Red Sox pitching staff? Or like, I don't, I don't know what you say. You're an Andrew Bailey guy now, right? Well, I didn't look, I think going into the season, you kind of looked at the rotation, you got guys that definitely have stuff and could get the job done, but I think there was a lot of question marks in it. You know, like, yeah, Bayo's been a hell of a starter in his young career, but like, you know,

Starting point is 00:40:26 we haven't seen him do it too often, and we've seen ups and downs from him. Same with Pavetta. We've seen this guy dominate. We've seen him get blown up. Like, there's a lot of, there was a lot of variation, I believe, in how, you know, this season can go with their starting rotation. You got a guy like Whitlock who's just been

Starting point is 00:40:44 back and forth between the pen and starting. I actually like Cutter Crawford watching a pitch. It's kind of my nightmare. The way he throws the ball is like all turkey jerky. But they've dominated this season. I mean, they've been incredible. I believe this is starting pitchers and relievers combined. They have a 154 ERA.

Starting point is 00:41:08 I mean, they're third. Airden starting pitcher ERA and their first in bullpenny RA right now. You're Boston Red Sox, man. They have a, I mean, they are crushing it. So, so, you know, how is this getting done? Is this just a byproduct of who they're playing? Is it just an early season thing? Well, I think you can maybe point to some of that,

Starting point is 00:41:28 but they do have a new pitching coach, a guy coming over from the Giants who really revamped the Giants, pitching staff, Andrew Bailey. Kind of like widely renowned is one of the new kind of, stars in that department. And he's got some interesting, like, kind of quotes and ideas about how to approach the game of pitching. He's, he had an interview, and he was talking about, like, relating pitching to boxing.

Starting point is 00:41:53 He said, a lot of people will say, your pitcher's best pitch is there, like a well-located fastball. He goes, I don't necessarily know if that's true. He's equating a fastball to a jab. Okay. And jabs have to be well-located, well-placed to do damage. He goes to win a fight. you need haymakers.

Starting point is 00:42:10 You need to throw your best pitch. And he's saying the haymakers are more like off-speed pitches. Like your best off-speed pitch. So it's using your fastball tactically to set up your haymakers, essentially. Now, I guess that's all kind of just like fun quote stuff to say, hey, let's throw off-speed a little bit more often because hitters have a problem with off-speed. But like it's really made a difference in the pitching staff. Like for instance, with Nick Povetta,

Starting point is 00:42:40 last year he threw his four-seamer 50.6% of the time. This year he's throwing it 32.8% of the time because he's brought his sweeper up from 5.4% to 26.4%. And his cutter from 7.8% to 20.7%. So like we're using the pitches more tactically. So yeah, you can say he's just throwing more off-speed pitches, but they have a plan behind it. It's not just like when Sunny Gray came over to the Yankees

Starting point is 00:43:11 and they said throw your slider more or your curb bowl more. No, this is like, hey, let's use it, let's sequence it into it. It's not just throw it all the time. Let's like figure out ways to do it. So you have that example. Cutter Crawford, I talked about before. Four Seamer last year, 39.1%. For Seamer this year, 23.8%.

Starting point is 00:43:28 He barely threw a sweeper at all last year, 6.8%. He's done that the most of any pitch, 36.9%. So the sweeper. Weeper's been introduced and like this whole jab haymaker thing. I kind of like the analogy, to be honest with you. And it's really proven to be fruitful for the Red Sox early on the season. And I always say this. Like you can have improvements come and sometimes that's just baseball and you're just in a good spot and things are lining up for you.

Starting point is 00:43:59 But when you're making meaningful adjustments and those improvements and come, those improvements come, I think there's more staying power in that. So Andrew Bailey is maybe going to have all of us eating crow this season. Maybe full pension Piv is finally going to win that Cy Young. You know, like they have the armed talent there. And now if they're like using their pitches differently and correctly, like this could be something to monitor. Best K to walk ratio in the bigs right now.

Starting point is 00:44:32 Hey, if the socks can pitch. Holy cow, the ALE East. Holy cow. They got some, you know, like, stories healthy, so he's playing a better shortstop. Ceyton in Centerfield has made some really good catches. That helps your pitching staff, too. Like, they got a guy that can go out there and get it. Outfield defense.

Starting point is 00:44:55 I was calling for a gold glove for this guy. Like, we're talking it up here, people. The Red Sox are hot in the streets. Raphaelah, Duran, and O'Neill in the outfield. I talked about that a little bit. And their offense hasn't gone yet. Like their offense has been Duran and O'Neill, basically. So, socks.

Starting point is 00:45:16 Tristan Kossis is still out there just sunbathing. And I just, part of me wants to hate on it, but I just can't. This guy's just like, I'll do whatever I want to do. I'm going to go out and wait and soak in the sun and ground. my feet on your grass. Play good. Things take care of themselves. Orioles have a new home run handlebar from your guy, Colervin? Do you need to look into that?

Starting point is 00:45:43 Is that, is that you? That's what do you mean? Is that me? I mean, he's your guy. He's your fishing buddy. I mean, I didn't tell Cole Irvin to get handlebars and to do the celebration. They always got something nutty up there. They're having fun in Baltimore. There's bunch of freaking kids balling out, dude. They're all like, we're all going to get paid very soon. new ownership, let's go. Let's just have some fun.

Starting point is 00:46:02 Their minor leagues are balling out. They're hitting big boy runs. Don't talk about minor leagues. A couple walk-offs and, hey, Royals. Jackson Holiday and Paul Skeens are not ready for the big leagues, people. Royals fan, you got another Cole Reagan's nasty start, and I don't know. Will Smith kind of blew, hey, you were in all these games, Royals. You were in all these games.

Starting point is 00:46:25 Treve, we kind of got a juicy I-O, so let's get through that as well. Shout out guardians for banging the ball around the park, though. There will be some guard dog love coming. Okay. They are banging the ball. Speaking of banging the ball, how about your New York Yankees? They take two out of three from the snakes. Red games.

Starting point is 00:46:46 Luis Hill, the young pitcher, got a fun little fastball. He has a nice first start. Anthony Volpe, 4 for 4. Are you kidding me? It looks like Jete. Judge breaks out of his slum. with a homer in the last game. Zach Gallen was nasty in that middle game.

Starting point is 00:47:04 And they got some nice offensive performances. Christian Walker, Blaze Alexander. Extra innings in the last one, 11. Couple runs scored in each inning got kind of ugly. Game ended with Scott McGuff hitting. That's right. Reliever Scott McGuff had the last that bad in that final game. The Los Angeles Angels, they sweep the Marlins.

Starting point is 00:47:26 Okay, Halos. Stay involved. Why not? Tyler Anderson with a big start. Mike Trout, two homer game, and the longest homer of the season. Holy cow. He pissed on one. And so did Taylor Ward in that last game.

Starting point is 00:47:41 How about your guy Miguel Seno? With a couple hits, a couple runs scored in the office. Marlins, uh-oh. And even worse news off the field, Yuri Perez, T.J. See ya. How's my side? Young draft. They don't care about that.

Starting point is 00:47:58 They care about getting a win. Detroit Tigers and the New York Mets, a lot of rain. They end up getting doubleheader in Thursday, and a couple extra inning games. Tigers blow them out in extras the first game. Things are getting Metsy, but they get a win in that last game. Jose Butto? Budo?

Starting point is 00:48:21 I think Budo. Yeah, I bet. Pete Alonzo homers to get it done. Tigers, they take two out of three out of, Gio Orshella, the most happy fellow, Reese Olson, twirling the pill in that first game. Chicago White Sox and Braves, they played two. Again, rain. Braves blew them out in the first one.

Starting point is 00:48:40 White Sox, find some nice pitching, you might hear about. They get the win in the second one. And then Brewers and Twins, they also split two. Twins and the Brewers' perfect season. Louis Varland, your guy, guy, Treb. Bryce Terang has been going nuts. We talked about him in the Midweds. Alex Kirillaw four-hit day.

Starting point is 00:49:01 Ryan Jeffers, a four-R-B-I-Day in that last one. Cherio, my God, the young man, he gets his homer on the board. Two-game splits, you know we hate that. So that's what happened in the aisle. Nice, puppy. What are you drinking there? What kind of latte you got? I've been on a, I've been mixing in Duncan a little more recently.

Starting point is 00:49:24 I didn't really, I had some old Duncan points racked up, so I've been drinking Duncan for free, which is a nice way to drink any coffee. And I added an espresso shot, and I normally been going medium, but I got the large today because I'm going to the big house, going to the stadium. I got to be on, you know. I'm a man of the people. I heard Paul O'Neill's got the first pitch, but he gets caught up in traffic. We got to sit there. Earthquake. Earthquake. Well, you know, I have media credentials, Trev, so. You're sitting in the press box? I'm just going to cover the game. get my tweets out

Starting point is 00:50:01 Treb I don't think Yank Snakes has a big topic Yanks have just been hot We kind of covered that early on And people Let me ask you a question on that though Because we did get a Scott McGuff The Storelli Ball People are calling that

Starting point is 00:50:16 Okay You got him bat in there Is because all these things happened Cate shifts from DH to second base So they lose their DH Let me ask you this Why not just put a pitcher in the outfield and not lose your DH.

Starting point is 00:50:32 Hmm. I guess does that mean anything? I wasn't watching this game. I don't know where they were at in the lineup, but to me that makes more sense than giving up your G8. It's an interesting question. If you have a pitcher that you think can, you more likely have a pitcher that can track fly balls

Starting point is 00:50:47 than can get a hit. Yeah, I don't know. I guess that guy will have to hit eventually too. Yeah. I don't know where in the lineup they are. It was sixth in the lineup, and it got to that spot, which is kind of tough.

Starting point is 00:51:01 But also, I don't know if you got a fly ball to the outfield and your pitcher looks bad or they get hurt. You're getting questioned either way. And I don't know. Here's one thing I know about pitchers. They can catch fly balls. That's what they've done for a long time. It's ShagbP.

Starting point is 00:51:16 I mean, they used to Shagbp. A lot of teams don't even. Whoever's most flexible. No what it is, though, dude. And I know you're not going to like this, but taking a pitcher from off the bench, like on an off day to, you're going to be playing the outfields?

Starting point is 00:51:32 Like, have they stretched? Like, what? I don't know. You're just, you're playing a little bit of a dangerous game there either way. And it's soft. It's soft. I know it's soft.

Starting point is 00:51:43 Also, my question is Scott McGuffa hitter, like in college or something? So, why is it him? We were researching live. So he was in the game pitching. And then we were doing like, ooh, who are they going to make hit? And then I think someone found out he was like five for 13 in the minor. So it's kind of a perfect storm.

Starting point is 00:52:00 Trev, the hitter in you, if you saw the last pitch he was rung up on, I felt bad for Scott McGuff in the Story Ellie Bowl. Wasn't necessarily given a shot. No. He followed one off. That's tough. Another thing, just part of that decision, like, Marte goes to short. I think they didn't have, like, short stops,

Starting point is 00:52:21 and maybe they're prioritizing that, having a real guy short. Okay. There was an injury. So, you know, hands got forced a little bit. And Torio also, also. Also after the game, we missed this a Yankee fans, but there is a base open for judges double. And they were like, hey, Tori, should you have walked judge?

Starting point is 00:52:38 He's like, yeah, probably. I've been thinking about that one. Marlins done or finished, you were saying? Dude, it's actually depressed. Go look at their baseball reference page. It's actually very depressing to look at, which I'm going to pull it up and out because I want to depress myself one sec. Oh.

Starting point is 00:52:58 I think you need to give credit to the. angels a little bit here for what they were able to do. They've had some really good starting pitching come out. And I talked to Chris Rose about this a little bit. You know, after the second game of the season, they were 0 and 2. And Ron Washington, you know what he did? He called a little team meeting. Instead, we're putting a squash this right now, guys.

Starting point is 00:53:20 Get over the two games. Let's go on. They've won four games since. They beat the birds, re-Detmers. I had a great start against the Orioles. And then they went into Miami and sweat. but if you're looking at Miami they have oh my god one person with an OPS plus over 85 a offense ain't been going is Jake Berger was decimate yes Jake

Starting point is 00:53:48 burger they've been decimated by starting pitching injuries the Yuri Perez news absolutely sucks dude because they've been very careful with him and They've tried endings limits and all these different things, and it's still happening. I don't know what the solution is there for the TJ stuff, but I mean, they're just like in a bad spot right now. You can't lose four starters out of your rotation and have your offense go cold and think you're going to win games. I mean, it's the recipe for 0 and 8. Plus you got too much talk in the media, man. Like, let's just stop talking to the media.

Starting point is 00:54:27 or like just go back to cliche stuff and find your business, get it right, okay? Like things are just not good down there in South Florida. Yeah, like, I don't know, we do this a lot. If the Marlins were winning and they were talking to the media, we wouldn't care. It just does feel weird when they're losing. I would care. This is stuff that they're talking about is stupid. It's, hey, they figure it out quick because two-gamer at St. Louis,

Starting point is 00:54:54 I don't know, that is what it is, at the stadium. for three, and then they host the Braves. So, like, I don't know. If you don't start figuring something out quick, we talk about having the good month and how that can anchor your season. The bad month can, I don't know. I don't know.

Starting point is 00:55:14 Okay. This was a playoff team last year. They've lost a lot since that. Shout out the Angels, though. Your guy Taylor Ward, who you pointed out, that's kind of like your guy that could change things in the Angels lineup. been going off. Obviously, Mike Trout's been

Starting point is 00:55:31 going off. Logan O'Hoppy's doing his thing. But yeah, they begin some good pitching performances, man. Kind of excited about these halos. I said they could be in contention. I said they can be in contention this year, and I actually meant it. There's some stats out there that aren't pretty, but here they are. I think they're in first place.

Starting point is 00:55:51 Your first place, Los Angeles, Angeles, and they're teeing it up against the Boston Red Sox, baby. So let's one of those... One of those teams is going to be feeling pretty damn good in a couple days, which both, I think, fan bases were skeptical. We've done a lot of Central. Tigers and Brewers are hot.

Starting point is 00:56:12 I don't know if any of those are really topical, and I think we're highlighting some guys coming out. I'm sick of the tigers already. They're too good. You're over it. Nice. Yeah, they're too good. I don't want them challenging my twins for the Central.

Starting point is 00:56:22 You see, I know we can do this almost every year and every day, but did you see the Torkelson checks swing that, They got... Angel? My guy? Your guy Angel. That's... Tough.

Starting point is 00:56:33 That's infuriating, man. It's tough. But the Tigers have been a really fun watch. Bullpen's absolutely nasty. School bowl's been nasty. Like, everything we kind of... Here it is. I was shocked.

Starting point is 00:56:49 Like, I knew it was going to be bad because it's Angel Hernandez. But Treve, that's not even... Did he say it was a foul ball or a swing? They said it was a swing. Sheesh, bro. I mean, the bat... Pointed at you, dude.

Starting point is 00:57:07 The bat doesn't come over the plate. That's insane. That's insane. Oh, yeah, I mean, Tigers had the sweep, and I don't know how Pete Alonzo hit that ball. Did you see the pitch? New York Mets, baby.

Starting point is 00:57:22 We're back. It's insane what he was able to do. Yeah, tigers are scaring me a little bit. I've got to be honest with you. Okay. Or no, bullpen ERA is... 0.59 or something at one point. I'm glad the Mets got their dub.

Starting point is 00:57:38 I know people, it's obviously an easy joke. I pull the joke sometimes. Mets went 13 innings without a hit. It was awful weather. The doubleheader, so the stands were empty. And then Jolly, with a little optimism on Twitter, and then I think you kind of came back at them. I said, get back in the box.

Starting point is 00:57:57 Yeah, I was texting Jolly. I said, are you still in that box? Because you should be after they lost the first game. How about like they had a combined no-hitter through what in that last game, like almost eight innings, seven innings? I Mets went 13 without a hit. Yeah, across a couple games. And then the no-hitter in the second game was broken up in the eighth.

Starting point is 00:58:16 In the eighth, right? Okay. Did you see the hit? It was Bader like blooped one in to left field. Mark Kana. Mark Kana's getting some still a met allegations. No, stop. Absolutely not.

Starting point is 00:58:31 Mark Cannon feels no affiliation to any team. People joking because he was a beloved met. Affiliated to himself, but I think you've got to die for that ball. Just even if it's just a show die. Maybe he was just trying to keep it in front of him because of the score. I don't know.

Starting point is 00:58:47 Mark Cannon. We'll reach out. One of if there's like a cop between weird bad first step. I don't know. Okay. And the twins, got to start hitting the ball. Brewers. Central.

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Starting point is 01:00:14 I like that. I went first last time. That's better. I am giving some love to Sayah Suzuki. Sayah, had a couple big days at the office. office. Wednesday he was three for five, a homer, four RBI. Six for 12, two homer, six RBI in the series versus Colorado. And I know I've been throwing up Colorado asteris myself.

Starting point is 01:00:41 But I'm more so I just wanted to highlight SEA because Trev, we've done a lot on international players. We talked about them in the midweek. And then Sayah Suzuki, you know, when the baseball season's going on, you get these tidbits that kind of get stuck in your head. Remember Seya got like half benched for a week last year? Like just the Cubs lineup was deep. They had a bunch of outfielders and they couldn't find a spot for SEA. I think there was an injury or something happened a week later.

Starting point is 01:01:10 Sayah ended up back in the lineup and he went nuts. That Sayah Suzuki last year, 138 games had a 285 batting average, a 357 on base, and an 842 OPS. Last season, that's a full sample size. He took a step up from his rookie year to that. And he's been balling this year that I saw a couple Cubs people putting out, and it's one of my favorite phrase because it's a phrase that gets ruined if you use it too much. But is Sayas Suzuki one of the most underrated players in the game?

Starting point is 01:01:41 And he's off to a hot start, 972 OPS on the season, obviously early. But like we talked about with these international guys, maybe they need a little more credit. Maybe it's not, are they clicking? not clicking. Sayah, you know, career 121 OPS plus since he's been in the show. So Sayah Suzuki, and part of these NL Central have more talent than maybe we're thinking. He's been bawling to start this young season, and I want to highlight that for the Cubbies while I'm wearing a Reds jersey and a Yankees hat.

Starting point is 01:02:17 I love that. Yeah. Good for you. Thank you. You're just a man wears many hats? Yeah. Does that make any sense? Yeah, I'm...

Starting point is 01:02:25 You know, I like watching Saya play. I like watching him hit, and I do believe... I don't know about the most underrated player. I don't know about that. I feel like he gets plenty of love. You know, sometimes you get overshadowed with the, you know, a couple international, you know, especially the guys coming over from Japan,

Starting point is 01:02:43 you know, this year, Yamamoto. A lot of talk about him. But Seya is a huge part of what the Cubs are trying to do. Yeah. Like right in the middle of the lineup, doing his thing. And you're right, man. Like 121 OPS plus is nothing to sneeze at in the major leagues.

Starting point is 01:02:58 No. And if he's, you know, we talk about players getting exposed or seen and other times players get better. And if he's getting better. He's getting better, yeah. Where are you going? The on-base percentage is something that I like to look at, you know, with a guy who, you know, first couple years in the big leagues,

Starting point is 01:03:17 you know, what are you going to do there? 336, 357 last year, 379 right now. I think that's the best indicator of are you actually getting better? Your plate discipline is getting better. You're getting the pitches in the zone. You're getting your pitches that hit more often. And the slugging has gone up too. I mean, he is like literally getting better in all of the categories.

Starting point is 01:03:40 That's a good thing. That's nice to see if you're a coach fan because he's locked up until when to 2028. Yeah, they gave him a contract. Listed at 511, no chance, right? Listed at 511. I want to know, because, I mean, Sayah's pretty... Yeah, but if you're actually 511, you put 6 foot. I'll send half the text.

Starting point is 01:04:01 Yeah. How tall is Seya? Hey, Happer. Sayah listed... 511. True. Thoughts? Okay.

Starting point is 01:04:13 What do you got, Treb? My standout performer is a guy who got drafted in 2020. He made his major league debut in 2020, which is always... always fucking crazy to me because I spent a lot of time in the minor leagues. Garrett Crochet. Against the Bravo. Seven innings pitch, three hits, one earned run, eight Ks, one walk. Now he's had two starts this year.

Starting point is 01:04:38 The first one against the Detroit Tigers, he went six innings pitched with one and run, eight strikeouts. So he's got back-to-back starts. He's got 13 innings pitched on the year, 16Ks, one walk, and he's only given up two earned runs. And against like, you know, the Tiger's offense hasn't been great to start the year. But they're not like a, they're not the Rockies. Yeah. But then to do it against the Braves

Starting point is 01:05:03 is a whole different thing. So I think it's cool like he wanted to be a starter. Chris Gatz was like, all right, open minded enough to say let's do it. Let's approach this off season. Like, what's build you up? Let's see if you can be a starter. And now here he is looking like

Starting point is 01:05:19 an ace. Like that's, that's just, that's nice to find. And are we going to be seeing this more often with guys with high-end arms? We're seeing Jordan Hicks do it and having success with the Giants. Usually it's kind of like the other way. Like, hey, man, like he didn't really work out as a reliever or a starter go to the bullpen. It's really not often we see guys, especially with established bullpen arms. This guy's been in the bullpen for a couple years. Hicks has been in the bullpen for a couple years. Go back to being a starter. I think that's very unique and he's

Starting point is 01:05:52 been able to do it. He hasn't necessarily changed much of the pitch usage. I think he did add a cutter in, but he's just kind of that guy. I mean, he's had all the armed talent in the world. Now he's just stretched out, and now it has me thinking, like, who else is going to do this? There are a lot of guys that throw cheese in these pens, and they're nasty. Like, you know, I talked to Chris Archer before one of the Dodger games. I saw him down the field.

Starting point is 01:06:21 he's kind of like a roving instructor with the Dodgers right now and we're talking about Jordan Hicks and he's like man what a genius contract for the Giants to do this with Hicks. So I believe he's making something like $11 million a year

Starting point is 01:06:35 average and he goes think about it. Upside here he's a he's a two starter you know like a top end rotation starter. You kind of said that not to flex slight flex you kind of said that like Archer

Starting point is 01:06:51 That's how Archer talks He goes You know Think about this Upside Yeah you're right Two star I think I might have just like

Starting point is 01:06:58 Quoted him verbatim I don't know Love me some arch So Upside is he's a two starter And you have him at $11 million a year But worst case You send him back to the bullpen

Starting point is 01:07:10 He's a high leverage reliever Making $11 million a year Yeah Like kind of like Are teams gonna be following this model A little bit more? Like why not? Earthquake

Starting point is 01:07:24 What happened? They just did one of those like emergency alert phone things about the earthquake from 30 minutes ago, which I don't know. Who's that helping? I don't know they do that for earthquakes. Yeah, I don't know if we want to mark it down for a midweek episode or something. But I've been changing my thoughts just on the whole starting pitching world. And I know that was a big topic. And it's how do we get back to that?

Starting point is 01:07:49 And it's not fully flushed out. But I don't know, man. Like you mentioned Jordan Hicks. When you see Garrett Crochet doing this, it's like, it kind of feels like we've been giving up on guys too early to be starters because going to the bullpen is also a win, just like you laid out with Jordan Hicks. Like, hey, if you go out and you get out there,

Starting point is 01:08:08 you can make a fine career of that. But I don't know, starting pitchers are still, that's the ticket. That's what gets people in the ballpark. So I don't know. We are going to be, this is what my look into my crystal ball into the future. Okay. everyone's going to be the same.

Starting point is 01:08:27 It is not going to be starters. It's not going to be the years. You're just a pitcher. You're a multi-inning pitcher. Maybe we have the rare occasion. I'm talking maybe like, you know, five, six years in the future. I think teams are going to start thinking like this is what I'm saying. Everyone's just a multi-ending pitcher.

Starting point is 01:08:42 Some guys may prove to be, you know, a little bit longer than that. You know, but I think those guys are kind of a dying breed. So maybe we'll have some guys still. trying to go six, seven. But I think we're going to have a whole team full of guys that can go three or four innings pitched. And then maybe we have a couple high end relievers still to come shut the game down at the end because I do believe that still is a different animal. I believe ending the game is still different. Talk to any pitcher, they'll tell you the same damn thing. So my belief is we're going to see more of those guys where it's just like,

Starting point is 01:09:13 you're just a pitcher. Like starting pitching is kind of going to be out. And we have like eight guys in our eight of the 13 that can just throw like three or four innings. Yeah, I've messed around with this like theory. I think you're still going to need starting pitchers that can go because that can reset everyone. Like that's one of the, that's kind of one of the key things. But yeah, I think bullpen,

Starting point is 01:09:43 if you're an Edwin Diaz or a hater and you're going to give us that one inning, we can do that. if you're everyone else, you better be able to go three. And it's kind of funny, like all the analytics and stuff we had to baseball, that's kind of what baseball was. Like it was a closer and a setup, man. And then if you were someone else in the bullpen, it was like, be ready to throw.

Starting point is 01:10:08 And all the starters were ready to go a buck 10 and nine innings if you need it. So I think it's funny that we're probably going to progress back to that with all the numbers and nerds that got involved in the game. I think we're... Sorry, nerds. I feel like starters were trying to go seven, eight innings every single time

Starting point is 01:10:29 they were on the mound back in the day. I think we're not getting, going back to that. I think everyone is going to want to pitch three, three innings, three or four innings. And then teams can... Interesting. It's a way for teams to mitigate cost, too. It's like...

Starting point is 01:10:46 Right. Like it all kind of like makes sense. Like in the future, this is the way we're going to go. And maybe that's the path to like not having so many arm injuries? I don't know, man. It's a discussion. Just thinking out loud here. Maybe another one for another day.

Starting point is 01:11:01 Hey, why didn't Zach Gallen shoved against the Yank? Kirolov went nuts. That Gallin is the most underrated player in baseball. Him and Jose Ramirez share that title. Okay. Why aren't you talking about Austin Riley and Jaron? Hey, there's a lot of stud players. that had big weekends.

Starting point is 01:11:18 But talking baseball is maybe most electric part of each episode. Treb? That's hilarious. All right, we're going to start up with this series. You spoke about this man, this big, beautiful man. Jorge Saler. Against the Dodgers, you went five for ten, a double, two homers, three ribbies for a 500 batting.

Starting point is 01:11:47 average. That's what 5 for 10 is. Nice, nice math there. Jared Duran 9 for 14. Ad-boy, fella. Two ribbyes, three runs, four stolen bases. Okay. Jake, what's 9 for 14? What's the average there? Just do it in your head. That's also 500. Yep, crushed it. 7.50. Brendan Donovan, 6 for 10, a double a homer, two ribby's five runs. Two hit by pitches for a 600 average in the series for the week. This is the one you want to be on, people. Bobby Witt.

Starting point is 01:12:17 Our freaking guy. My asked who I was DMing on Instagram. It's Bobby Witt all the time. And he responds to me. So thank you, Bobby, for making an old man feel cool. 12 for 28. Five doubles, a triple two homers. Only two ribbies.

Starting point is 01:12:35 Two stolen bases, three walks. Garrow crochet, just talked about him, man. 13nings pitched. One walk, 16Ks. How about this guy? Who is this guy? New York Yankees reliever Ian Han. Hamilton? Is he good?

Starting point is 01:12:50 Might be asked to do a lot more because Johnny Lou Isaaca just got hurt. But yeah, he's a... Five and two-thirds and three games pitched. Only one hit, seven-kays, no walks, me like you that, Poppy. When you get the Kays and no walks, that gets my thing moving a little bit. Speaking of moving, Kade Smith, Cleveland reliever. Four and a third innings pitched, one hit. Nine K's and only two walks.

Starting point is 01:13:14 And that, my friends, is who is. Fuego. I love it, Tref. Good, good for Soler getting out of the gates. And Bobby Wood Jr., man, during that Sayah talk, we talked about getting better. Bobby Whit last year, 30 homers, 49 stolen bases, an 8-1-3 OPS in a big second half. Picture all the, picture those numbers ticking up? I mean, that's 35 homers, 60 steals. Like, you know, we're getting into a Cooney territory with a shortstop. So, yeah, I'll, uh, I'll drink that Bobby Wood Coot. I'm glad he responds to you, man.

Starting point is 01:13:53 That's, uh, that's nice. That's nice. It is nice. Slump watch, not happening yet. Not sure if it's going to happen at all. I did see some big Ofer numbers out there. I won't throw anyone under the bus, Chris Bryant. Rendon.

Starting point is 01:14:09 Anthony Rendon. Rondon's been getting cooked. What's going on with this guy? I try to defend him in the off season. I don't know. I thought Ron Washington was going to light a fire. Anti-fire. Some of the, like, Shenoul was in college since his last hit or something.

Starting point is 01:14:27 The non-P. The non-P. I think his last year was July 4th. Is that true? America. I missed a lot of time. I do think the IL is an unfortunately important segment, even though it's my least favorite segment so far.

Starting point is 01:14:43 Al Thomas, for my snake. He gets banged up. Cor McCarroll sliding over to center. Josh Young, like I mentioned. Big piece missing on the hot corner for Texas. Jason Hayward for the Dodgers. See some other veterans getting playing time for them. Both McGills?

Starting point is 01:15:03 Tyler and Trevor McGill. That's tough, man. Mom McGill is not happy about that. Dude, their family is bummed. Matt Carpenter. We don't like that, and Victor Robles for the Natanals. So that's kind of, and like I just mentioned, Jonathan LeWisaga, Yankee's set up man this morning.

Starting point is 01:15:26 He's a right flexor strain, which could mean a chunk of time. You see the Boone quotes on it? He says significant insurance. Certain things that's significant. That's usually. And the MRI. Yankee code for a bad time. Immediate 60 day.

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Starting point is 01:17:15 track. I need the next Beaver Summer hit. Meanwhile, Shane Bieber, two games started, 12 innings pitched, how zero earn runs in Trev. I had to double check this. 20 strikeouts

Starting point is 01:17:31 from Shane Bieber. And just a reminder, what's something we love here at talking baseball, we loves a contract year. Oh, walk year, baby. So Shane Bieber, Sy Young in the bag. and he's come out two starts, zero earn runs, 20Ks, and 12 innings.

Starting point is 01:17:52 So I wanted to highlight the beeps because, you know, he can be a star in this game and one of the best pitchers, and we talk about Cleveland pitching a lot. We love a contract year. And he's been waiting on the bench because he's been watching his team hit some singles and a lot more. The guard dogs have been bopping trep. Is there a little A's asteris? Yes.

Starting point is 01:18:14 Does there need to be an A's Mariners asterisk? Because the Guardians and the Red Sox who have played both of those teams have been lightened up from both sides of the ball. I don't care about that yet. I care about what you've been doing. And the Cleveland Guardians third in runs so far this year. How about that? So a shout out to Shane Bieber highlighting him and Guard Dogs fans.

Starting point is 01:18:41 I did want to give you some love. Kwan Jimenez and Ramirez have been going. off. That's the top of their lineup. And then they've been getting some games from different guys. Tyler Freeman filling in, Rokio, Bo Nailer. So the guard dogs, who had a really tough offensive season last year, and then they shut down all their pitchers. Shane Bieber is back in shoving.

Starting point is 01:19:02 That's a guy we thought about they were going to trade a lot because of his contract year. So the guard dogs getting it done on both sides. And give me that just, when that Justin Bieber summer jammed, hits, man. I mean, that's just different. He's just that guy. Can't wait for summer. I got a nice tan. The body's like not exactly where I want it to be, but I haven't hit in the gym a couple days in a row. I'm getting back into it, pop. Shane Bieber made, I'm an adjustment guy. Made some adjustments. Last year got crushed by lefties.

Starting point is 01:19:34 So, you know, how do I fix that? Well, he started throwing his change up a lot more. He's a drive line guy. Went there this off season, ticked up his fastball velocity a little bit. But the pitch usage has been interesting. He's actually throwing more four seamers, 35% last year, 41% this year. The big thing is the change-up. Went from three and a half, basically like non-existent last year.

Starting point is 01:19:58 He started at 13% of the time. So he's using it to get those lefties out. And the slider changed a little bit. That's gone up from 20% to 24%. Cutters, kind of the pitch that's taking the biggest hit. So I like when guys go and they have a plan. Okay, this is what's going wrong. How do I fix that?

Starting point is 01:20:20 What's the equalizer for our lefty is the change up? He goes, starts throwing that more and he's had success. The strikeouts are up. He's looked dominant. Whether he's there all year or not, it is yet to be seen. But it is nice to see him back. I like, I mean, he's a pitcher, man. Like, it's nice to see that.

Starting point is 01:20:37 And shout out Stephen vote. Is vote the reason these guys are winning? Uh-oh. I like that, though. I do like Shane Bieber. Santa Barbara Goucho, right? Ooh, I can double check. Hold.

Starting point is 01:20:51 Pretty sure. I'll give it to you for now. Yeah. Or wait. Yeah, Santa Barbara. Santa Barbara. Okay. Where are you going, Trev?

Starting point is 01:21:02 My award is called Slang That Dang. Award. Okay. And it's funny, you know, like I coach, you know, a youth team. And I hear these kids talking and all the things they're saying. I think the biggest word that young boys say, right now is bruh. It's bruh everything. I was on the phone with my good friend Ollie Linton, CAA agent.

Starting point is 01:21:31 He said he talked to you a little bit. So he shot you a text. And we were talking about kids. And I was asking how his kids are. He's like, man, he's like, I think I'm, like, I think I'm, I'm a good dad, but I think I'm more like just an older brother. And I'm like, what do you mean? He's like, well, I kind of travel a lot right now.

Starting point is 01:21:50 So when I get home, like, I just want to do all the fun things with my kids. He's like, so I just like play video games with them. We like watch movies together. He's like, I'm like a cool older brother. And he goes, and they just don't really respect me at all. Right. And I'm like, what do you mean? He goes, well, my, his youngest son is named Zion.

Starting point is 01:22:08 And he said, he goes, Zee baby, doesn't even call me dad. He calls me Ollie. So he said, I'll come home He'd like, hey, Ollie, what's up? He's like, I don't really know what to say to this kid. You know, okay? And then he's like, you know, and then Kingston is his other son. And yes, Ollie is Jamaican.

Starting point is 01:22:25 So Kingston is balling out playing some balls. So I was like, how's that going? He goes, he doesn't listen to me at all. I was like, I had the same thing with Teddy. Teddy does not want to take really instruction from me. Right. And he says, Kingston is always saying, Dad, you're doing too much.

Starting point is 01:22:42 Dad, you're doing too much. Pause. And I'm like, how old is he? What is he talking like? Pause is crazy. It's all pause or bet. And I'm like, oh man. Because Teddy says that to me all the time.

Starting point is 01:22:55 Bro, okay, bet, bet, bet, bet. So I've been hearing that a lot lately. You know who else has been hearing bet, bet, bet, bet a lot lately? That freaking major league offensive leader board. It's littered with bets. just like these youths out there saying bet, bet, bet. Major league offensive leaderboard is littered with bets. This dude, Mookiee bets, what are we doing, people?

Starting point is 01:23:29 If you aren't paying attention to this, please pay attention, okay? Mookie leads all of baseball and wins above replacement. This guy's played nine games. Baseball reference has enlisted at one and a half. Kyle Schwarber had 1.4 war all last year. Think about that through nine games, right? He leads in batting average at 485. He leads it on base percentage at 595.

Starting point is 01:23:58 He leads at slugging at 1.091, which means, of course, he leads in OPS at 1.6. He leads in plate appearances, runs scored, hits, total bases, home runs. RBI's, walks, just down the list, all, mind you, while playing middle infield, mostly shortstop. Spent 10 years as an outfielder, winning gold gloves. Now he just switched over. So that's really impressive to me. The offensive stuff, like the home run he hit off Logan Webb is crazy. Logan Webb doesn't give up homers, especially on a pitch down in the zone like that.

Starting point is 01:24:42 Mookie can do whatever he wants. And I think that's kind of where I want to end my award is. People think this is so easy for Mookie. And maybe it is easier for him than it is for a lot of different people. But he came out and said, look, shortstop is not easy. And it's not going to be easy. And I did see him pregame, working with Miggie Rowe out there, taking ground balls, trying to get better at a new position where I know he's going to floor.

Starting point is 01:25:08 She's already doing it offensively. The leaderboard littered with bets is kind of what I wanted to go with here. But this guy is putting the work in to be a star shortstop at the big league level after playing 10 seasons in the outfield. It is unheard of. Please pay attention to what this guy is doing. I think he's going to win the NL MVP because of what he's doing. And oh yeah. By the way, after he was out there early taking ground balls, this is Mokey Betts, mind you.

Starting point is 01:25:35 A superstar in L.A. he came over to the people that were on the field for batting practice and signed and took pictures with every single one he even stopped and said hey did you get one is everyone good here before he went back into the dugout this guy is a superstar in every single possible way you could use the word and I just want people to make sure they're paying attention to this guy

Starting point is 01:25:59 bet bet bruh um yeah that's uh I there was a clip I did on Waken Jake that they got a decent amount of run and you can just see how twisted up I am because I'm rooting for Mookie Betts always he's a generational ball player he's awesome he's he's Marcus Lynn Betts MLB right he's over 30 playing shortstop for the first time and that's almost that's almost something sacred in its own right like you don't do that you don't do that I've completely flipped on it because I want Mookie to succeed. And I think he's going to. And like you said, he might do more than that. He might win the MVP.

Starting point is 01:26:48 And this is, I'm not doing this for a clip, and we won't clip this part. But if he does this, Trev, if Mookie Betz has an MVP-esque type season from shortstop at his age and he keeps this rolling, like he's he has an argument for one of like best ball player all time. Yes. And that's kind of eye opening. Because it's yeah, it's Mooky Betts.

Starting point is 01:27:15 He's good. MVP and, you know, great right fielder and all this. When you start mixing in shortstop and second base and I don't know, you know, we do our all-JM team and we have the util spot, you know, maybe maybe the easiest cop out of all time if Mooky keeps us up is like, if you're building an MLB team and you have a util spot, Mookie gets that. I don't know, man.

Starting point is 01:27:37 He's doing things that haven't been done. I think this could go down if he continues this pace and wins the MVP. I mean, obviously he's not going to 1.6 sit, but he has a career year offensively while moving to shortstop full-time or middle-infeld. You know, he's going to play second base

Starting point is 01:27:59 when McGee Rowe play short or whatever. mostly shortstop. It's going to go down as one of the most impressive seasons that we've ever seen in this sport. Being able to do that. And I really, really mean it. Talk to people that have played the game how hard shortstop is.

Starting point is 01:28:13 And to do it at his age, after not doing it for so long, and still playing offensively the way he's been playing, it's going to go down as one of the most impressive seasons we've ever seen in the game. I think this is one of the most impressive episodes we've ever had.

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