Talkin' Baseball (MLB Podcast) - A's Fans Host Reverse-Boycott & Teams That Could Sell | 675

Episode Date: June 14, 2023

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Hello and welcome to talking baseball. It's the midweek episode and we are Revoice. All right. We are Revoice. We are Revoice. I became a newsboy. What's that? It's a Revoiced Boyk one.

I'm just a little kid handing out pace. Hello and welcome to talking baseball. Brought to you by Seatkeek. My name's Jimmy. His name is Jake Bibi behind the dish. No Trevor today. as he is boycotting the show. Jake and I are reverse boycotting the show.

Some people say revoice, if they're from the 1918 paper voice. What was that? Sometimes. Revoice. Revoice. I was a speech impediment kid. So you can never do anything.

James, Davis, like you mentioned. We want to give a lot of love to Trevor. We respect that he's boycotting the episode. but we're kind of one-upping him because we're reverse boycotting episode. We showed up. We're reverse boycotting Duncan Donuts. Jimmy's going to do a donut reveal.

Oh, yes, yes. On the Dunkin' Donuts app, you can click Surprise Me and I always do it. Now, I will say the Duncan buyer office is like a... Where's Duncan in the world? It's like a hybrid Duncan? It's a really bad. It's like when you go to an airport

and it's like McDonald's Express. Yeah. That's what it is. It's an express. So they don't have a lot of donut flavors. They're closed on Sunday. I think. They're closed on the weekends.

They closed by... They only serve this building, basically. It's... They closed by, like, 2 p.m. most days. Yeah, because sometimes they're open it for... They've never turned a light bulb on. No, they like it dark in there. Yeah.

I like the new owner. She's nice. But they... They completely change crew every, like, six months, I've noticed. Yeah, new management a lot. And the, I click surprise me. And now they're usually pretty boring. Like, usually...

I've done this twice. It's just a race. Oh, I'm assuming chocolate donut. Oh, really? See, I'm assuming just glazed, no sprinkles, no frosting, nothing. Stinks. Yeah. Do you want me to do this now?

I think it's the end of the episode. Oh, I was going to eat it right now. We keep people going. I just stared at. I just did two shows staring at this bag. That's how you cook the algorithm, bro. That's how people watch till the end. Two hours of doing two podcasts staring at this.

Now another show staring at. All right. At the end of the episode, I will open this bag and see what kind of donut I got. Jim, tell the people what we're doing today. Well, first we're going to talk about the Revoiced Boyquot in Oakland, and then we're going to talk about which teams had a bad June and are closer to selling at the day. Are having a bad June? It's June. It's if they have a bad June. Oh, if they have a bad June.

They're on the selling radar. They're on selling radar. And then what players could be attached to there. And maybe we do some schedule watching. So like, if I want this team to sell. then I need these teams to destroy them. So we can find some fan bases. We can find some America teams. So like, okay, if you're a team that needs. We can find some teams to reverse boycott.

If you're a team that needs starting pitching, you need to go find whoever's playing the White Sox and whoever's playing the Cardinals, and you're now a fan of them. Yes. You want them to be so bad that they feel like, shit, we got to trade off pieces. And maybe the Guardians too.

You want them to be bad, but I don't think that's going to happen. Not to give too much away. because I think we got a reverse boycott a few things early on. There's a comment in red here on the sheet, is that you or Dalton? I haven't typed on the sheet. I actually don't have editing access to this sheet. Well, I do, but not in the email I'm in right now.

Okay. I'm logged out of my one. Well, here's what I'll tease the people with. Dalton does have one team likely eight out of ten to sell. So just a little teaser for the people. Well, he's got another eight and a half out of ten. or is that the same team? I think it's the same team.

It's just cracking me up. No, no, he's got them all ranked. It's in all red. Yeah. It's highlighted. He's got one team nine and a half out of ten. Ooh! Another team eight and a half.

Another team eight out of ten. So if you're... And then another maybe five out of ten, he says. We've got a donut reveal. We're reverse boycotting everything. One thing we're reverse boycotting in a huge way is Sikh. Yeah. I am lighting up seat geek.

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It's so easy a J could use it. Trevor, so mid. The reverse boycott was awesome and also infuriating. Because you're basically in the middle of a 30 for 30 documentary if they're still doing those. Or a documentary. And that's always fun to be like, shit, this is going to be a documentary. Right. Note what the problem is.

30 for a good 30 for 30 is electric. Like you could put it, if we put it on in our office, we could like shut down the office. The problem is this 30 for 30, we would watch in 10 years and be glued in, but a kid would watch and be like, what? Because it's a horrible look for baseball,

so much so that I think they were suppressing highlights and making sure that didn't get out, and people didn't see it. It is such a bad look for major league baseball and the A's. and they just have to eat it. And it sucks, man, because Oakland, I do have such a soft spot for that community of sports fan because it's a good sports town.

They have diehard fans. Like in all sports, even if, you know, go down the Bay to San Jose, they have diehard fans for the sharks. Down the Bay to San Jose. You have dire fans for the sharks. The Warriors went across the Bay. The Raiders moved to Vegas.

And now they're going to lose the only other team that's there. And on the day the reverse boycott happens, Vegas approves the $380 million thing to build the stadium.

That was fine. Which looked like it wasn't going to go that way. It looked like it wasn't going to get past. It was training that it wasn't going to pass. Like the people may have pushed that. Well, when they announced the other

reverse boycott earlier in the year is when Fisher announced we're going to Vegas. Like right before that took, uh, took off. I figured which one that was. But,

They did their own giveaway. So everyone had shirts that said sell. So it was a giveaway, but not from the team. Wild. They had like, they were silent in the fifth inning, like all on cue and then big sell the team. It was really, really well done by the fan base. Whoever organized it. Imagine if you had a winner and you could sell out the place.

Imagine if you had a better stadium and you gave back to those fans. You could sell out the place. like they could do that. They don't want to pay for the stadium at all. And Oakland is like, well, we kind of can't really afford to be paying this much money for stadium. We got to do all this other stuff for our community. And Vegas looked like they were almost doing that.

And then they said, no, we'll give you $3,000, $180 million. But it was electric. And they won the game. They sweep the raise or is it two. They've won the first two. They won the first two. They won seven in a row. So the timing of that is, again, 30 for 30 style.

like that part's unreal. Did you see they have? We would be glued to it because we've spent all season saying like this is a laughing stock of a team and they did this intentionally. And you know, at the same time, like we're obviously a players pod.

We got three players right here. That, you know, we do everything. Like we're, our t-shirts that we're now selling MLBPA license t-shirts was like so exciting for us because we were like, we want that. Like we love the players that. The Oakland Athletics, when the Yankees played them this year and we watched them for three days,

we were like, oh, no. Like 30th and everything, but now this is best ever. Unfair, but it's part of why this sport is beautiful. Like, they're kind of electric right now. The clips are unreal. I was getting emotional on the couch this morning. Just like the ball down the line. Yeah.

Like throwing out the runner. How loud it was. throwing out Randy, the best to ever play the sport. Yeah. No, it was, it was really cool. And what's also cool is the race are of the team that needs a new stadium, has tried to win, right? They have tried to win lately and put the best on the field in nuanced and new ways.

And they now have fans showing up even to their crappy stadium through the traffic over the bridge. but like the Rays have a home attendance that's pretty nice this year, as well as the TV ratings because they are doing it. TV ratings, they've always been kind of good, right? Yeah, well, lately. The hidden secret. Since they've been good.

Years they're competitive. Which is a lot of them. And it's kind of like. People in Florida that like baseball. So they can do that. Well, yeah, there's people in Oakland that like baseball. But, and there's diehards that are still coming to the Coliseum, but you're pricing them out.

You're trying to lose. So the A's players have, a cardboard cutout of Fisher and a Speedo pulling off pieces every win. I saw it. It's gross. He looks bad. You saw that?

He looks real bad. It's kind of cool. That's kind of a perk in Major League. As a young boy watching that movie, like, oh, this is a baseball movie, and a lady getting naked? Yeah. It's kind of into that.

I'm running for them now. Yeah. Go Indians. Canceled out. Canceled out. Yeah. A lot of things. tonight's game, third game against the race?

I mean, is it just dead? Because I think now needs to be a boycott. Like I think I didn't plan the reverse boycott. I wasn't part of it. Not asked, not needed. But if I did have, you know, if they had a input committee or they were asking for some outside thoughts, I would say make sure the next game, zero people.

Point zero. circling back Because that sucks for the players That's the power of the people God, that's That's that's what we can do Is we can show up or we cannot Can I tell you?

Yeah There's one way to keep this team in Oakland They have to beat the money ball streak You win 21, the team stays Fuck that streak in that stupid movie That's why I brought it up Okay Because Jim, you hate that

Again, there's so much of money ball that doesn't be told. I like that A's team. Right. The Moneyball movie is stupid. An incredible rotation that kind of gets ignored in that movie. MVP shortstop not talked about in the movie. If this team, the team that was built to lose, out wins the Moneyball Oakland A's. That's perfect.

That's chef's kiss. That's, yeah, but you know, right the movie. All it's doing is making the people. People of Vegas more excited. Yeah, and not to, I don't know if this is twisting the knife or whatever, but the guy that raised a trophy a couple days ago, Stan Cronkey, who owns the Nuggets, also owns Los Angeles Ramps, moved them from St. Louis to L.A. Yeah.

He's gotten two trophies because of that. It's, uh... Well, the Nuggets trophy doesn't, isn't helped out? No, but, I mean... Oh. He moved the Rams Because he wanted to And that's kind of how this all works

Yeah Well Go A's Refused to lose Put that on a shirt Oh that's been on shirts It's been on so many shirts It's been on a lot of shirts

A lot of high school teams have used that Some pro Yeah There's not an A in any of those words Which is tough for an A shirt If we're going that route Well you just put a big A Refes to lays.

Yeah, do that. Replace all the vowels with A's. That's a secret. That's Moneyball, baby. Do you know Moneyball wasn't even about on base percentage? It was about undervalued stats that people weren't paying for. People flip that all the time. Rafasa Talasa.

Rafasa. Reface, eh? You can, you know, pronunciations up to the people. But Rafasa de lasso sounds kind of sick. sounds very rasta. Sounds very Italian meets rasta. That's an odd combo. Refasta de lasa, huh?

When you say it like that. That sounds like that. Yeah, you were kind of being fascist. What donuts in there? I want to know. We don't have to be able to the end. No, I want to know. Can I have some of it?

You can have some of it if we open it in between segments. That might be coming. Congrats, Oakland. Congrats Oakland. And also, it's cool, but I don't know. you're not going to have baseball and that sucks. Well, you know what you can't have? Nice sunglasses.

You know what Fisher should do today? Trade. Trade Rooker. Oh, my God. I mean, sack up. You want to be a bad guy? You want to be the bad guy, Fisher? That's gross and it's brilliant.

Listen, my services are here if the fan base wants my help, you know, as an advisor, and I can play both sides. If Fisher wants my help, how do I be a bad guy? How do I shut these guys up? Trade Rooker. right now. What can I do right now that's evil? Yeah.

Like how do I counter? How do I counter my fan base showing up? Those fucks. You take Rooker and you trade him. Trevor May. I mean, I mean, but Rooker's got six years.

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I'm with you. I'm with you. So, okay, 9.5 out of 10, Dalton has this team likely to trade at the deadline. And I'm interested in this team trading at deadline. You and Trev from what I've heard and last talking to you, don't think it's, likely to happen. That's actually you think it's so not likely to happen that it's a reason you may believe in them.

They have continued to lose. Right. Since then. So I don't know if your stance has changed. We're talking about the St. Louis Cardinals. They're 27 and 41. They're fifth in the NL Central. Their June record so far is two and nine.

And what's not good? Not good. And they lost yesterday, 11 to 2, some of that? Working on things. And what's enticing is that they do, if teams will come to them and ask, and what's what can we get and give them deals, right? So they traded Bader last year for Montgomery. They also have made trades that kind of like are win-win trades.

But if they want to restock the farm, if they're like this is a little bit of a clean break from current leadership, blah, blah, blah. They're losing Monty after this year, Jack Flaherty, after this year. Hicks after this year. Tyler O'Neill has a year and a half left. Wayno. Unless it's like a friendly, hey, go chase a ring in your last year.

It'd be like if he asked for it. Yes, it would be, well, we've seen players do that, but it's if they ask. He would obviously. Who's done that? Whole career with the Cardinals? Final year trade piece? There is an example that I remember happening in like the 2008 through 12 year.

year and I can't think of it right now. Sound off in the comments. A couple things here. Jim, I want to start off with the creepy old man line that I also use and will use for the rest of my life. Everything has a price. Like when you hear someone say that. Like the Cardinals, two and nine.

The ego says two years, you know, they got a lot. They got a lot of one year, year and a half. I think the thing that becomes really interesting, eight and a half. Eight and a half games of the Central, which again gets tricky because that's as far back as some better teams we're not even going to talk about. And it's how can you turn the ship around at all? Because if the St. Louis Cardinals are, what, five games back of the Central

come early mid-July? I don't know if they're selling. And I guess where it gets really interesting to me, you mentioned the Bader for Montgomery trade that took us kind of a lot by surprise last year. We were like, you know, you'd never trade away potentially quality starting pitching, which shorter Montgomery can be.

And Harrison Bader was heard at the time, so the whole thing kind of shook us. We did our live trade reaction show, which I just got excited for this year, even though it might be a mid-deadline. But there's always something. Something. I guess what interests me about the Cardinals is,

how can they spin this in cardinal fashion? Because it's not like they're, they won't hit the trade light and say, All right, we're rebuilding for three years. No. Like, they'll hit the deadline. And if there's something that if they can retool and be in a better position for next year,

so you mentioned Monty and Flaherty. So I'm saying they're, and Waino, their rotation is losing three guys. I think Waino is a little more unique for me that I'm... Didn't he say this is last year? Am I misremembering? Yes, but I mean... Well, I'm saying if any of those...

One team is so special at this point that I don't think you can... No, no, no, no, no, no. They're losing three rotations. rotation pieces, even if they don't trade Wayno. So if they can trade any combination of players today, that gives them a pitcher that's maybe they think they can blossom into that would be on the books for the next couple years, right? Like he's not going to be a playoff pitcher for, fuck.

Okay, this is a dumb, dumb example, but it's just where my brain goes. Clark Schmidt, probably not a playoff pitcher for the Yankees, has a couple more years. so if the Cardinals can find a guy where they can get in return a guy that they can slot into their rotation next year, it's less work they have to do in the offseason to go find five starters when they're losing three, especially if they don't plan on resigning Flaherty and Monty, which I don't know their plans.

I'm just saying they potentially have three starting pitchers to lose. They might be able to use this deadline to get away some rentals to help fill that combo them with other places. I could definitely see, and he's a guy that this show is kind of built around in a funny way, and we've, I think it's funny. People have been like, we've been too easy on him at times. Yeah, because Trev's an actual friend of Jack Flaherty. I mean, Jack Flaherty came to our first, like, live event ever.

But I think what's really interesting there is Jack Flaherty is, Jack Flaherty is obsessed with the Joker. He's an interesting cat. He's, I think, there's something out there that he's like never signed his arbitration deal? Like it's something that doesn't matter at all, but he's like, no player has ever been more into free agency than Jack Flaherty. So if you're the Cardinals, and Jack Flaherty's been really up and down this year,

he's had some big walk games. He's had a couple good starts recently. Like, I think Jack Flaherty would very much be on the table. I think, and the other thing that's looming here is we've been saying it now since April, this team's needed a shake, whether it's managers, players, or whatever. This has been the surplus outfield team going back a year and a half now.

That's why Bader got moved last year. Since they've had an outfield surplus, since they've traded away Harrison Bader, easily the best defensive center fielder in baseball the past couple seasons. Ran out of breath. So, like, they need to do something. I just, I don't think it'll be a,

traditional sell, but going back to where I started, there's not going to be a lot of true selling teams that the supply and demand here, when that hits the Cardinals, they have to do something significant. And I think they will. But I don't think it's going to be like an unloading, you know? No, but it could be an unloading of rentals if they're really still out of it. Yeah. I mean, come July 30, come July 25th.

So who else? Montgomery, Flaherty, who else do you think is really in play? Like, I see Paul DeYoung on the sheet. Like, that obviously wouldn't surprise me. They've had a love-hate relationship with him. I don't know how Giovanni's pitching this year, but he's got a year and a half left. I think people probably think they can tap into that as a guy.

And then... It's kind of pricey for a reliever. Contract-wise. Like, actual contract-wise. And we know how much teams think about that, you know? But, I mean, remember the year, when everyone was getting relievers and they were getting like pay like what was archie bradley like he was remember that trade and he was getting they ate i think he was five mill and they ate

the snakes ate like all of them right yeah um but i mean that's still a good amount compared to other teams like you're you know even two two of the starting rotation guys and i i think what's i think what's significant as we move on to some other teams is uh and i think BPD alluded it to it earlier this episode or before the episode, but there's only true teams you can highlight that are selling Nationals, they like don't have too much. Jammer Candelario, you've been fantastic. Maybe someone will go for it.

I'm sure someone will actually. There's a chance the team like the NASP just kind of want them around. Right, like they think they've tapped into them. It's worth more than whatever they yet. They're, unfortunately, they're reverse boycotting the deadline. Don't make trades. Like all the teams that are, like, obviously going to trade whatever they've got. They don't have a ton of things of interest.

Like our third team on this list jumping around is the Cincinnati Reds, which they've been one of the most electric teams in baseball. Fourth team on the list. Fourth team, excuse me. Fifth team on the list. So much jumping. I think they're in the tier of. So they're in a different tier.

Tell me about some of these other teams, Timbo. The next tier is the Chicago Cubs. They're in fourth place in the NL Central. They're five and six in June. Or do you want me to tell you who needs to beat the Cardinals? Yes. All right, let me get on that. So they're road trip Mets and Nats.

So they're about to get really hot. They're probably going to win six out of seven. Six out of six. So if you want some of those pitchers, you are an NL East fan. Yeah. Maybe the Giants won some of those pitchers. Maybe. Handsome Miles Michaelis.

They're playing the Giants right now. And then they have Cubs. Then they have Houston, then New York. Okay. So the Chicago Cubs, not the greatest start to June. They lost a series to the Giants. They got swept by the Angels.

They split a four-game set with the Padres. They just won game one against Pittsburgh. So that's good. J-M-O. Looks like he got a... a decent enough start to get him the win. I don't know the full line. I just know he started and they won.

But the Cubs have some pieces that they could unload. I think, although they did sign Happer, which was the one that people were like. He was the sexy one. We were kind of shocked all around, but hey, that's some serious. Bellinger is one that people have been talking about because he has a mutual option for 2024.

Other than that, you could. not take that, obviously. And he would be available. You got who else. I'm just looking at the contracts. I don't know if these guys are healthy and or performing. Yeah, Bellinger's been hurt. But he was hitting really well before that.

Yep. Fulmer? He's beginning his rehab assignment, so he should be in play. Is Fulmer still good? Is he healthy in playing? Let me check. I know he was going through a nice stretch at one point.

Yeah. His last five, six have been. good? I mean, the piece that's been really interesting for the Cubs is Marcus Stroman. And he's been so good this year. He just came out with the quotes that were very Juan Soto-esque. He's like, you know, he's like, me and the Cubs talk to extension, but it doesn't look like something's getting done.

Which is kind of like the, that will always make me tilt my head. Strowman to the Astros? That's kind of the kindest way of saying, like, I'm out. You know? I'm up. Strowman to the Astros, is that what you're saying? He's been so good. Any team would be happy to have him.

Dalton's thoughts been surprisingly underachieving, especially in Weekend, El Central. Lots of recent big contracts could be on the table of Chicago keeps downfall, likely 8.5 out of 10 to sell. I think they will. I think they'll be involved in some trades for some pieces. You know, again, I don't think we're going to see

a huge offloading here, because they just don't have that much going on. And the names that they do have, besides Stroman, but names aren't insane game changers. I think, and now that we've done this a couple times now, it's where I always end up landing, and it's what makes the Cardinals outfield and a couple other situations a lot more interesting.

Pitchers are going to be available. Like, I think if you want Strowman, I think if you want Gialito, I think if you want, you know, a Jack Flaherty. Like, I think those guys are going to be available. It's the hitting that there's not a lot of bats available. Catchers always go. What do you think about Jan Goams?

He's having a decent season. He's behind the dish. I think he's got a slug on him. Yes. Brazilian. Yeah. Probably. Would Treve ever teammates with him?

I don't think so, right? Text him. But he had to play against him a lot because they were both in, well, Jan Goams? And Trev Overlap for a couple years When he was in Cleveland And Trev was in Minnesota

And 13 and 14 Texted Trev Well, I texted Trev So he better respond to me Text him at like 5 in the morning 13, 14, 15, 16 They were both Running around the AL Central

You might be traveling, right? So, are you texting him again? No, no, no. Katie said, can I call you, which is a scary text. Yeah, not always. No, she just doesn't. I guess if it was bad

She would have just called me She would have just called We're on call A little baby Yon Gomes might get moved Because people like moving catchers He's on a one year deal There's an option there

And he's having a decent And he's just kind of a mainstay He's just Jan Gomes Astros probably trade for him too Oh no They love getting catchers Gomes and stro To the Astros

Yon Stroh Someone's catcher gets hurt What about your white socks Jim? You're kind of in the mental pickle we are with a lot of the other teams because they have been playing a better brand of baseball and the A.L. Central is in reach, but they also, they could be the team with the most jewels to sell. If they decide to sell, if they get to June 20th or whatever and they're still way on the way out, which I, you know, if you turn it around White Sox, I'll root for a miracle season. but any team that has a potential offloading. I'm interested in that.

This was the Cubs back in 2021 or what 20, yeah, 2021. I was interested in that happening. A potential offloading here, Jake, if they've hit the button. Like I don't think there's a halfway with this team. I think they're either going for it and not getting rid of anybody or they're getting rid of a lot of people. Unless they like their club option, but I doubt they like their club option for Lance Lynn.

So if he gets into a groove or someone thinks they can pick him up, Lance Lynn at this point almost seems like a Yankees trade for him like they did back in 2018. And like the Yankees trade for it. Like they always trade for a kind of sixth starter, maybe if you figure it out, but not guaranteed. They like to trade for a guy that's not necessarily part of their postseason plan. Yeah.

Yasmani Grandal isn't part of next season. He's a free agent. Liam Hendricks has a club option for $15 million. Tim Anderson has a club option for 14. They might like that and want to offer that. Clevenger, they have a mutual option so they could trade him. Joe Kelly, they have a club option so they can trade him. Graveman has, it would be a rental and then you get another year.

Elvis Andrews, if someone's really dying for him. Gialito. Bruce could be a waiver guy. Gialito, he's a big name. They're on a little West Coast trip right now that it's so funny. If we recorded this last Thursday, at one point they were on a five-game win streak

and like back at it, they're currently on a three-game losing streak. And they're on a West Coast trip, which is always scary, especially when you bring up that old Cubs team, that that's kind of what Harpoon their season. They go West Coast trip. They're doing Dodgers, Seattle, and then they play

Texas, which like, you could wake up for that and be one in eight pretty quick. Yeah, two and six even, I think, puts you closer to trading. Oh, they play Texas in Boston, and then they do another West Coast trip, Anaheim and Oakland. What dates would that be? June, end of June into July.

Is the second West Coast trip? Yes. Okay. They got a bit of a tough stretch when you're up against the deadline here. Damn. Gialito's been good lately. Dylan C's, he's not going to get traded. Clevenger had a good start against the Yanks. Let's see.

Who else is Lopez been pitching well for them out of the pen? Rinaldo? Rinaldo. Stuff looks good. Does. Jorge Lopez 2.0. Yes, he's very good. And he is a free agent after the season.

So, yeah, if the White Sox decide they're out. I think this is the one team for a fucking offloading. Can I tell you something exciting? What's that? Weekend leading up to the All-Star game. Three days where baseball's

in the spotlight, rumors, gossip. Remember Juan Soto Fest last year? Cardinals White Sox, three games heading into the All-Star break. Loser dies. Oh. Sweeper gets swept. Don't you dare split that.

So it's a sweep. You can stamp it. White Sox are an interesting one. Dalt has it as a 8 out of 10. What, um, this is always interesting for us. And I mentioned the All-Star game. We just announced that we'll be out there. We're having a live event.

The day of the All-Star game. We're going to the Derby, that Monday, that Tuesday, July 11th, Optimism Brewing. We're doing a live talking baseball. show Trevor Plouf, Chris Rose, Jolie Olive, we'll be there. We're doing some live ref guests with the people. Dan Kenobio.

Jimmy won't. He's having a baby, people. Beautiful. Well, not me. My wife is, I'm, uh, it's pretty, it's bullshit. I, you know, Katie's always like, you're lucky, you don't get to give birth.

I'm like, lucky. Yeah. I don't get to experience the miracle of childbirth. That's bullshit. I got power. I didn't make this. Come through. Uh, we're doing like a,

super exclusive VIP event beforehand. Yeah, everyone will be in the same hat. Live show, and then we're watching the game. And there's a rumor. Olivia Pluth will be there. Wow. Yeah. Boone?

Booing the whole thing. Booing in the corner? With Jess. Jessica coming to him. Okay. Two rumors. Angry wives. The Angry Wives.

AWC. John, I want to tee that up because this is an interesting one that people will hate our thoughts no matter what, but we just saw them and we're about to see them again. Where you are with the socks? Like, it feels like they kind of like their crew. I don't see them selling. Yeah, I see them trading a piece here there.

I think that they don't have an incredible lot, like a big, like return, a huge return anywhere, unless I'm wrong. But I also think that if they were in the Central, they'd be a playoff team. Right. And if they have a good week, So if they, after the deadline, they could have a great August or a good August in September and make a wild card.

So they might make some trades that are like second tier for you and for us needs wise. Yeah. I don't see them offloading because I do think that they could find themselves in a wildcard with a good last two months. and then you just, you want that crew ready? I mean, who did they have that would be? I guess that's the thing that I think the shockwave of the quote, the shockwave of the Red Sox selling isn't worth it for what they'd be selling. Because I mean, the only thing that kind of jumped out to me is if like, you know, Jaron Duran had been really good for them and that was kind of unexpected this year.

Adam Duvall was so good for them, got hurt and came back. Like, I could see them spinning Adam Duvall in a one-year contract and just like, getting a reliever that has three years and being like, yeah, you know, we want to get to Ransomor run. So we flipped Duval and we added to our bullpen. And they would fully spin it as a retooling. And they don't really have like the big rental piece to trade. Unless Paxton continues pitching.

He's got two like really good start or three starts now in a row. And does he have an option for next year? Is this year the option? No, this year was the option. So he's just a free agent. So even if they actually, I mean, maybe if someone comes calling and you like the return on Paxton and you trade him even if you think you're still in it. But Trev texted me.

Whoa. So I hope he texted you back. Bullshit artist. I texted him. Does Jan Goams have a hammer? He replied, doing some investigative work right now. Oh, I think that's for me because that's what I asked him. I text them a lot.

Okay. Safe for Jim? Question mark. Okay, I'll ask him. Yeah. That even Justin Turner has a player option for after. Again, I just think that would send such shockwaves, like even Paxton. Like, if Paxton's pitching well, which he has been in the Red Sox trade James Paxon,

that's throwing up a full white flag. You know? Yeah. It's if June goes bad. Kluber has to play for the Orioles. Cluber does have to get to the Orioles. Yeah. I don't know.

Has he played for Toronto? No. But that's not a different country. Okay. So that'll be last. I could see Toronto. They need some. and get them to either of those.

Cincinnati Reds, I'm not touching, because they're second on the sheet, and I just, I don't see it happening. They're fifth on the sheet. Okay. Second in the grouping. Why don't you see it happening? You're a big, big Cincy fan.

Now, Dalt has them as a five out of ten. Dald has them out of five or ten, which basically says everything. The vibes are so high there right now. I guess it turns into what they're trading, but even Jake Fraley, who I've talked about a lot, even early on this year, because there's not a lot of outfield hitting options.

Like, it's kind of shocking. Jake Fraley, you know, his contract runs through 2026. So if you're the Reds, you have to be getting something that you think is going to help you the next three years, which I think Jake Fraley might just be that piece. So I don't know. I don't think they've just called up their top prospects. They're playing a good brand of baseball, and in the NL mid, like, I don't, I don't know. What about George Rooney Farmer?

You trade Buck Farmer? He's ruined all the vibes. He's a rental. I was just going to say in their pen, just Buck Farmer would be a rental. He looks like he's going to be a free agent after this year. Lucas Sims would be a year and a half guy. So those are the only ones that seem like they would need they they would do like a surprising trade like the. Oh,

oh, Hoppy for B-Mars trade where like they're trading a five-year guy for a five-year guy on another team just like a balancing of needs. Those are very, very rare trades because it's kind of wild. But they do have just a ton of like guys they've promoted to the MLB level that started their service time. that have either four, five, or six years available. If they find just a position swap with another team, maybe, but I'm not going to predict that. Well, I think the one that was rumored for a little bit,

and I've poo-poot it, so I don't want to fully walk over myself, but Jonathan India. Jonathan India had a bad year last year. He kind of has gotten his stock up this year. He's a proven MLB player. He's already into his service time. That I think it goes back to what I said about the Cardinals. it becomes supply and demand a little bit,

that if Jonathan India is somewhat on the table, everything has a price, buddy. That if, like Jonathan India, if he's for sale, is he easily the best hitter we've talked about so far? Yeah, but you just... High ceiling, certainly. I don't think he's going to...

If he goes, it's going to be a very weird trade. That's what I'm saying, though. I was kind of building off the O'Hopi Marsh thing. Like, it's that but to another level. Maybe them and the Cardinals just trade. I have him going to like another not, like a nod contender. And they're just like, you guys could wait for the off season. You just wanted to do something.

Right. He's trying to stay busy. It seemed that did not need to do this right now. Okay. Well, do you have anyone under the Reds is even talking about because we did talk about the Reds? But under them, you have. I think it deserves to be. Dalton, again, in all red, has obvious sellers.

Rockies, tigers. Royals, Athletics, Nationals. Yeah. The problem is there's only so many guys on those teams, Randall Gritchick, who the Yankees have to trade for. That's defense. Just offense is defense there. That there's not a ton of guys on those teams that,

I don't know. I think the NL is so bundled up that no one will do it. I think, and it would be crazy sad, and it would be a little bit of a retool, and Jonathan Indy's hair would fit their team. the Seattle Mariners. Like, it's just, they started slow last year. They kicked into gear.

Same with Julio. I think those teams would do another big trade? I think so. That's kind of how it works, right? You've made trades before. Yeah. Okay, so what's the Jonathan India to the Mariners trade? I don't know.

I don't know the Mariners system. Okay. What if it's not system, though? That's what we're saying, right? It would be an ugly... A deep cut. Okay, so what's India's situation? Okay, we're about to do it.

Reds and Mariners fans are going to hate this. It's stupid. And that's so awesome. All right. So how many years does... India, I believe, is three and a half left. Oh, let's go. So his free agency is in 2027?

Give him one of those Mariners pitchers, Jim. 2027 free agency. Okay, so him and Sam Haggertie have the same. Stop. It would be a very even split. Give him one of your pitchers. I trade. Let's see.

Give him Bryce Miller. Two pitch Bryce. Yeah. How's he been doing since the Yankees beat him? And I said, I don't think this guy's actually as good as people are saying. I know it got got at least one more time. Did he turn it fully around? There's so many Millers in Major League Baseball.

And so many prices. Oh, he had a good start against Miami. But Texas got him for two. So after the Yankees, it was 2.17 earned runs. And then June 12th, six innings pitch, one and run versus Miami. I wonder if he changed his pitch mix. Because I do think he has good stuff.

It was just the first five starts were against the worst teams in baseball. And he's throwing 70-print fastballs. And it was like, this isn't actually real. None of this matters. Bryce Miller for Jonathan India. Talking baseball. Colton Wong goes the other way, too.

The Reds get another vet in the mix. Maybe they tap into something. Is the Marlins' offense besides their eyes just bad? Not Soler. Soler and De La Cruz has been good as well. I think Casey Sanchez has good numbers, too. Feel free to check me on it. It's a long for me to.

Bryce Miller's, if you run into a team that can't hit high fastballs, he's going to have success, bought them, but I mean, face the Rangers, and they just fucking smoked them. There's 73%, 95 mile power fastballs to the Marlins. And they didn't do much. So Haggerty plus. Stop. Love Sam Haggerty.

Taking Haggerty off that team? I'm not. I'm not. He's not. It's a yoke. Is there any other team that deserves to be mentioned? I think just players. Like, I know Rosie still doesn't believe that the Guardians are not going to trade Justin Bieber. Shane, even.

Well, I think we saw the Rays do this even when they were winning with Snell and other pitchers. We've seen, and we've seen the Guardians do this even when they have contending seasons. And Shane Bieber is a different caliber. But Bauer was pretty good. And Cleve was pretty good when they did this. what do they value more? Getting to the postseason with Shane Bieber or trading a guy when he's got a year and a half left

because they value trading guy when he's got a year and a half left a lot. That's what they do. But can you do that to the fan base and to the team? So I think if they're anywhere close to, I don't know, actually. I wouldn't not be surprised if Shane Bieber gets traded and the guardians are still in it.

Because they kind of... Yeah. I feel like they have to be somewhat firmly in first place for it to not happen. They'll do it for... Nobody's pulling away from anyone in that decision. So... They'll do it for Gilbert. Oh, my God.

The Mariners are trading everyone? Stop. It was the page. That was up. I think the other thing that's spinning through my mind right now, I know we mentioned them quick. C.J. Cron and the Rockies, like, Rockies, cash that ticket in.

And I think he's really good in, like, People deserve to watch him play. I guess the other thing that's in my head right now, underachieving teams that are going for it, Mets, Padres, Phillies, those three front offices have been the most, like, boisterous front offices, that they're going to do something, right? Yeah.

I just don't know what it is. And I mean, the other thing that's obviously been looming in Will Loom all year, but, and I guess, Jim, because this is a fan base that you guys have had an interesting relationship. Is Shohay not getting traded? Like, it's just not happening. If they think they can resign him, which they should think that he chose them back in the day.

Right. He's been there. They're having a winning season. It's technically like the best season they've had with him, right? Yeah. I think until this point, yeah. Yeah. I would say no right now that he's not getting traded.

and they're going to try and do the dance with him in the offseason. Do you think it... We'll say if they do trade him, they have to like, no, 100%. There's no way we're winning him over in free agency. So we have to cash in. And by the way, halos, they were 30 and 30, 500.

Like, this could get away from you real quick. They've gone 8 and 1. Yeah. So good on the halos, Because that's, if you went one in eight, this whole episode would have been where Shohay going. And they just beat Texas twice. Go get them. Screw Texas.

They were mean to Trev. He's moved past that. Yeah. See if he found out anything about John Gomes' hammer. Nothing yet. They won this game. Tyler Anderson didn't have a great start. Oh, their big acquisition.

But yeah, they've been good. Put up runs. Yeah. Go Halos. go. Jimmy Hergett had a good inning. Hot. Oh, good.

Yeah. I guess everyone comment who's getting traded and then when they do get traded, like screenshot it, keep those receipts and tell us that you know ball. We know ball. Oh, donut. Donut reveal. Are we good on other stuff? Yeah.

Oh, just what I thought. Plainclays. That's so sad. No imagination there. You know? Surprise me. You know what? It is a little bit of a surprise

because you're thinking bigger. Now, you still want a piece? No. It's still going to be good, Jake. Do you want something? I know we talked about it. I'm going to throw this.

I know literally no one should care. What a terrible throw. I'm so sorry. You put it in the worst place. Like the only bad place. How much that donut, what's the word? And company displays.

How lame. Mark Duncan is. It's perfect. I ended up slouched. I shouldn't eat that donut, right? What's been on the ground now, but you still eat it. I'll eat it. I've seen the cleaners come every day.

That donut's not going ony. That donut's not going ony. Thanks for tuning in. Appreciate you guys. Subscribe. He's got a whiff of myself. I've been sans deodorant the last couple days. Jack Doyle reeks.

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