Talkin' Baseball (MLB Podcast) - Big Leaguer Answers All! | 1066

Episode Date: November 19, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:01 Hello and welcome to talking baseball. Today it's the all-handsome episode. It's me and Bobby Golfs. You guys ask me a bunch of stuff. Let's get into it. Ted Williams foreshadowing. Hello and welcome to talking baseball. It's your guy, Coach Trev here.
Starting point is 00:00:29 Like I said, along with super producer Bobby Golfs. We got a couple guys on leave right now. Jake is still, who knows where. I think he's in Italy right now. Dalton Feeley. in Buffalo yesterday. Two kind of different places. But you can have fun in both of those.
Starting point is 00:00:47 I've been to Chippewa Street. So Buffalo stand up. I'm out here in rainy Southern California. We had you guys send over a bunch of voicemails. We got a ton of them. And sifted through them. I think we got them down to 15. We'll go through all of them.
Starting point is 00:01:05 Some of them are baseball related. Some of them are me related. So this is kind of like a speed dating round for you guys, the audience and me, a little bit of Bobby mixed in. Bob, are you there? Yes, sir. How you doing?
Starting point is 00:01:17 There he is. How you doing? How was your weekend, Bobby? It was an eventful weekend. It was a lot going on. A lot of family stuff, but it's all good. It's the time of the season for that. You know, we got Thanksgiving coming up.
Starting point is 00:01:31 The holidays are here, whether you're Hanukkah, whether you're Christmas, Kwanza. There's got to be some other ones that I don't know about. It's a beautiful time of the year. I actually finally got some of that fall weather here. It's been, we have an atmospheric river, okay, which is insane because we used to just call that rain. And now we have a name for it. This is very similar to baseball.
Starting point is 00:01:51 We're like, oh, he's got a live fastball. Well, now we know all about what a live fastball is. Same thing with an atmospheric river. It's just rain, people, and a lot of it. So that's where we're at right now. I think we should just get right into it and start these voicemails up. Sounds good. Hey, Trev, this is Adam.
Starting point is 00:02:10 from Minnesota, huge fan of you on the twins, huge fanning on the broadcast and on John Boy Media. My question for you is, what is your Mount Rushmore of favorite teammates? Could be because they were funny, could be because they were just great teammates, whatever you want to do. Appreciate it.
Starting point is 00:02:31 Well, thank you for your support. I'm always, I always question people when they're so nice to me. That wasn't that good on the twins. A couple good years. but thank you for that uh you got me with the tough one already off the bat because i'm obviously going to leave some people out bobby four people on mount rushmore correct yes nailed that one crushed it i got two like easy ones right off the bat and i think i've mentioned these guys
Starting point is 00:02:57 before and kind of what they meant to my career so i'm going just to more no and josh willingham uh two just great examples of what it means to be a man uh and when i go through when i went through this thought exercise. That's what I'm calling it. SAT right there. I realize that's kind of like what I'm into. Like I like to follow guys that I consider, you know, hard workers, good husbands, family men, like that's the people I like. So Justin Moreno took me under his wing, 2012, and even before that, and really kind of like showed me the ropes and challenged me a bit. So I'll go Justin Moreno, still get to work with him to this day, which is a lot of fun. He's just a great dude.
Starting point is 00:03:38 Josh Willingham was my right-handed bash brother for the famous June, July of 2012 season, as everyone always remembers. And he, again, another guy who I look up to as a person, but as a baseball player, he's like, he told me what I did well. He's like, hit the ball in the seats, man. Like swing for the fence, pull the ball, go get it. So him and I went back and forth, and that was a big one for me. The other two is a little tricky because, you know, I got guys like Joe Mauer who was a big inspiration for me just by the way he went about his work. And then just like see him play baseball was awesome. And he's just one of the all-time great guys in the in the sports world.
Starting point is 00:04:21 So I think he has to be on. I think he has to be on this list. So I'm going Joe Mauer. Still get to hang with him when I go back to Minnesota too, which is cool. So the last spot is up for grabs. And I think I have to choose between Brian Dozier, who I probably had more like dinners with than anyone, still get to see him a lot because our wives are friends. A guy like Ryan Domit, who is my Spades partner against Willingham and Brian Dozier, and then Kyle Gibson. You guys know if you watch the show, the Gibby's a big part of, you know, how I think about baseball, specifically the pitchers.
Starting point is 00:05:00 He's like the one pitcher that I really enjoy. So I think I'm going, Willingham, Morneau, Joe Maurer, and then if we could do a split face, it'd be Brian Dozier, Kyle Gibson. That's my twins, I'll rush more. That's a good one. I like that. Thanks, Bob. All right.
Starting point is 00:05:22 Moving on. Hey, guys. What is, what do you think the odds for the Blue Jays repeating a, World Series appearance are for this coming season and how many of the current
Starting point is 00:05:43 players do you think stay? How many prime? Okay. This is a question about the Blue Jays. I'm not good with odds and percentages. I think they're going to be one of the better teams in the A.L. I think they have some work to do this offseason, obviously.
Starting point is 00:06:01 And a lot of times when you point out the Blue Jays, they have a decent size payroll but a lot of Blue Jays fans will say, we don't go and spend money like that. Well, you went out and spent money like that with Vladie, and you're going to have to do that again this off season, maybe a couple of different times.
Starting point is 00:06:17 And I think one thing that you can't put past the ownership of the Blue Jays now is when you get a taste, when you get a taste of the World Series, and like you had the World Series. Like they had it won until they didn't. I think that really inspires you to go out there and get back, because that's what it's all about. Plus, you make a ton of money, so that's what the ownership's all about.
Starting point is 00:06:43 They're going to have to figure some things out. Boba Chette is a big one to me. In my mind, he's already back, but I think there are some scenarios where he's not. I think he's going to have to move off with shortstop. Andres Amenez is there. I think it makes him a better team if he's at second base. So they decide, hey, like,
Starting point is 00:06:59 maybe we go allocate that money elsewhere and don't bring Bo back. We make a really valiant effort to do it. but he ends up signing somewhere else. That is a plausible scenario. And that would be, that would change things a lot for their outlook. And it could make it better,
Starting point is 00:07:15 could make it worse, depending on how, again, they reallocate that money that they're going to need to spend on him. They are going to be in play, I think, for some big free agents, whether it be a frontline starter, whether it be a back of the end of the bullpen guy.
Starting point is 00:07:29 And our trade draft, I had a bunch of guys going there. Are they all going to go there? Probably not. But they are going to be players in the free agent, market. Are they going to go after Kyle Tucker? I think they're going to give it a go. Would they be able to do him and Bo Bichette? I think that's the biggest question. I don't know if
Starting point is 00:07:46 that happens. So if they did decide, hey, we want Kyle Tucker there. Maybe Bo doesn't come back. And the reason I say Kyle Tucker is, and obviously he makes sense for a lot of different reasons. He's contact oriented, kind of just does plays defense, kind of does everything the Blue Jays want to do. but after next season they got springers out uh varshos out who else's out i have it here uh gospel bieber gimme garcy like they have a bunch of guys who are free agents after the 2026 season so what a lot of organizations will do and the blue just have done this in the past with like a guy like andres semenis is bring in the replacements the year before you actually need them so and Kyle tucker could be that for their outfield um while providing them obviously massive value for the 2026 season so
Starting point is 00:08:34 um chances they repeat as al champs pretty good i don't know like what i'm bad with percentages people they got a good shot they're going to be a good team next year i think they're one of the more fascinating teams uh for this off season because they have the guy like uh buchette who they need to bring back or like the fans definitely want him back i'm if you're really thinking like in a true baseball, baseball roster scenario and you're leaving like the attachment to
Starting point is 00:09:10 raising this guy. I think I might go elsewhere and like reallocate that money. But we don't live in a world like that. He means a lot to that organization. So they got a good chance. They're a good team. And I'm excited to see what they do this offseason.
Starting point is 00:09:28 Toronto Trev. I was wondering, what do you think about this giant snipe Hunter Men. Do you think this is going to be good for baseball where more teams will want to start hitting again? Bye. More teams will want to start hitting again? Is that what she said? Yeah, that is what she said. Yeah, I mean, thank you for the question.
Starting point is 00:09:53 Contact oriented. That's what she's referencing. I'm into it. So I think, so it was Popkins and Ments. Ments going to the Giants, so we'll get into him. I think Popkins was definitely a contact-oriented guy. I think he lent that way when he was with Minnesota. I think he became that when he more so when he went to the Blue Jays. So it's an interesting dynamic between those two. I spent a lot of time with Popkins in the cage in Minnesota in 2024.
Starting point is 00:10:28 And he was a guy who truly believed, like, yeah, you got to have a bunch of clubs in the bag. I've always said that, and you have to have that approach, just because these pitches are so damn good. So I think a lot of the contact has to do at Popkins. Mens is going to be great for the for the Giants. Again, I don't know this guy a ton. I actually probably played against him. He was drafted and was in the minor leagues kind of coming up with the Marlins, I believe, when I was in the minor league. So that would be interesting to find out.
Starting point is 00:10:54 But nobody cares. Shut up. It's not about you. he was their drill coach and swing mechanic guy in Toronto so he'll be bringing that sort of mentality over to the Giants he was coached by Vitello at Missouri which I think is cool and I think that's awesome for Vitello to like be able to bring his guys in I like that a lot handsome dude Menses also so he fits the vibe there. One of the biggest things a hitting coach has to do or be able to do, and, and Rob Van Squoic is probably the best in the big leagues at this with the Dodgers, is you have
Starting point is 00:11:36 to have a bunch of drills that you can go to when you see a mechanical flaw in a hitter. And it doesn't have to be some, like, crazy thing. It could just be, it could be anything. It could be, hey, short bat because you're casting your hands out too forward. We want to feel your hands closer to your body. I love the short bat drill, by the way. There's more of that coming later in the show. It could be, I mean, literally anything. Brian Dozier used to love this drill where our hitting coach would throw the ball on a hop to him.
Starting point is 00:12:13 And it would just make him feel the timing aspect of his swing a little bit better. So you have to have drills to fix guys, whether it's a mechanical thing or a mental thing, a timing thing. a timing thing. And I think Ments is going to be able to bring that to the Giants. I'm excited to see. I like when guys have success somewhere and are able to kind of showcase and be, you know, the head guy somewhere else.
Starting point is 00:12:36 So I think it's going to be good for the Giants. The Giants have made some really cool hires. They did get rid of my guy J.P. Martinez, who I believe is now reunited with Tommy Watkins and the Braves. But good hire for the Giants. Hey, Coach Trev. It's Greg from Pennsylvania, huge Philly fan. Thank you for your service.
Starting point is 00:12:58 I have a baseball question and a personal question. Baseball-wise, if you could choose one team to play for next year, so say you were coming back to baseball, and you were able to choose any of the teams to play for in 2026, which team would that be? And personal question, what was the most badass concert you've ever been to? Thanks a lot, man.
Starting point is 00:13:22 See you. Well, first of all, thank you. for the question. Second of all, there's no stolen valor here. Don't thank me for my service, please, okay? Let's have not done that. Thank you everybody else for their service that actually served. Okay, this is a fun question because I think there's a lot of cool teams out there. I think a lot of people would probably say, hey, the Dodgers, they got a really good chance to win the World Series and you get to play with Shohei and Freddie and Mookie and all these guys. Not going there. I respect to the Dodgers are doing, obviously.
Starting point is 00:13:55 obviously, but I think I'd go somewhere else. I think there's a couple teams in contention. I think the Blue Jays, who we just talked about a couple questions ago, they seem like a lot of fun. I love Toronto. It's a great place to play in. Not going to Blue Jays, though. The other team that I was thinking, I had it, and now I kind of forgot it.
Starting point is 00:14:15 Padres are a lot of fun. I know there's some, I think there's people have questioned the clubhouse culture there. I think the clubhouse culture would be completely fine. I think I'd be a great addition to it. So the Padres would be another team I'd be interested in. But you're from Pennsylvania. I'm going to the Phillies, man.
Starting point is 00:14:33 I want to play with Bryce Harper. I want to play with my guy, Trey Turner, who is my favorite player in the big leagues. He always has been. It's always been you, Trey. I think Alec Bone might be on the trade block. I think there could be a hole of third base. And guess who could step right in?
Starting point is 00:14:48 You had me once and you let me go at the trade deadline, Philly. Don't make that mistake again. I play with the Phillies. I think Dave Donbrowski is going to, again, put the pedal to the metal like he always does. They're so close in this window of these players is kind of expiring. Bring Swarves back, bring Plouf back. Just a reunion of the boys. Bring Jake Gerietta back while we're at it.
Starting point is 00:15:08 Philly for me in 2026. A best concert, most badass concert I've ever been to. I've seen so many shows, man. Shout out Rick Merrill for always hooking me up when we were younger, a family friend of mine who was a GM at the Universal Amphitheater. System of a down was like awesome to see live. That was an incredible show. I've seen all my, you know, my punk bands like,
Starting point is 00:15:33 and people say AFI is not punk. It's punk enough. Okay, people, they were great. I do have one particular moment, and this wasn't my favorite concert per se, but I think this was the most badass moment. Little Wayne was awesome too. And I don't really enjoy rap shows,
Starting point is 00:15:51 but this one was really cool. anyway so i was at a it was like um a festival not a festival a collection of artists i think it was k rock almost acoustic which was that you know you have like 10 bands that play they play a couple songs whatever it is uh p o d with this with the song youth of the nation and you could probably already hear it in your head right now if you're my age uh they were they were playing and the power went out. And so the place is like completely black. The auxiliary lights come on. So you see just a little bit. But everyone's like, you know, what the heck's going on? And then it was badass, dude. So if you know that song, you know there's some awesome drums in it. And all of a sudden the drummer just goes,
Starting point is 00:16:38 he starts playing that track. And the whole crowd starts saying, we are, we are. And that's the whole youth of the nation thing. And I got chills there. I don't have chills right now. I hate one people say, I have chills. Like, I don't have it right now, but it was an awesome moment. Really cool to be a part of that. I don't know. That was really young. I just, I didn't really know what's going on. But great moment. Shout out POD. So that's, that was pretty badass moment. There's what, Coach. There's Jordan here from Utah. My question is regards to expansion. When the Romans were starting, you guys, and other media people talked about divisions and potential locations. What I'm kind of excited about for when there's
Starting point is 00:17:22 happens eventually will happen is what that draft process looks like in other sports that's like each team they get to protect a certain number of players and then the other team gets to kind of pick from there I don't think MOU would do it but I think it would be so cool to see teams protect their certain players and then these two teams get up on a draft just like a normal MLD draft but a live televised expansion draft and to see the two teams alternating I think this would be awesome to see. And maybe you guys could do a segment in the off season on what the draft process would look like for expansion.
Starting point is 00:18:02 Anyway, thanks. Go yinks. Okay. So we thought this was a great question because we could do some research in real time because I don't really remember that it was a 1992 expansion draft. I do know some of the points where if this was to happen again, we would have all the team. teams, the existing teams, protect players. You get to protect a certain amount of players. I think it could differ year to year.
Starting point is 00:18:33 Typically, you have a 40 man and that's protected. I don't think it's that many. I've been trying to look up and maybe, Bob, if you could find it. How many people got protected? Established team could protect 15 players from their 40 man roster, and a maximum of one player per round could be drafted from each team. Yes. Okay.
Starting point is 00:18:53 So each organization would get to protect only 15. And that's an interesting thought process for you and your organization if you want to do that because it's not your 15 best big leaguers. Because you'd have to go to your prospects as well and say, well, I want that guy. I believe minor leaguers are involved in this too, right, Bobbo? Let me look it up. Yeah, that's an interesting one. But anyway, if you're a guy who's on the 40 man, big prospect, not on the big league. roster that that'd be a guy you'd probably end up protecting typically teams would you know
Starting point is 00:19:29 some maybe like an aging veteran or a guy that you know was making a lot of money those guys necessarily probably wouldn't get protected unless they're very very important to your team that particular year um and then yes the two expansion teams would get to draft and it's one player per team um each round yeah uh so that's that's an interesting way to look at this. I don't know. It's, it's, I feel like it'd be very difficult to do that this, at this time we're at in baseball, because I feel like everyone would just protect their young guys. If there'd just be a team full of veterans that the teams would get the draft from, and maybe they'd end up being the best teams. I think that's how, that's how organizations think about their rosters and
Starting point is 00:20:20 there are players in the organization now, especially if you're trying to keep them long term, they'd keep the young guys, the young cheap, affordable guys. And then would these expansion teams say, all right, well, we're going to take these older guys and all of a sudden they're going to have one of the bigger payrolls and all the baseball? It's fascinating to me. I think we are going to get there. I think we're going to get expansion. I think we're going to get two more teams.
Starting point is 00:20:43 And to go through that draft would be awesome, man. You've got me kind of thinking about it now. Maybe we should do an app talking about like who would be who we think wouldn't get protected and who would be the first pick of the expansion draft. That'd be interesting. So players with no major league experience and less than three years of professional service or four years for those signed at age 18 were not eligible. Okay. Okay. But that makes a lot of sense.
Starting point is 00:21:15 Yeah. minor leaguers can be taken if you know all that stuff is fascinating question man like i i i do i do want everyone to go think about their organization who do you protect who do you let go it'd be interesting it'd be interesting man this guy right here twins expansions draft 2014 i'm out they're not they're not protected i go to the new team and we be the best team and then all of a sudden boom Ploops in the World Series. That's my dream. This video is brought to you by Shopify.
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Starting point is 00:22:47 Hey, Trev, how's it hanging, Amigo? I'm going to bring back Tolkien baseball for a second here. Since there are nine members of the fellowship, where would you set the members of the fellowship if they were players on a baseball diamond? All right, peace out. Great question. Clearly, I've thought about this before.
Starting point is 00:23:12 There's no doubt. Nine members of the fellowship, If you want to go over him real quick, we got Aragorn, Gandalf, Legolas, Gimley, Samwise, Frodo, Boromir, and Marion Pippen. Does they name them all? I think I did. So there's some that are really easy to me. Legulus, you're going to center field, buddy. Go run down the ball.
Starting point is 00:23:32 He's got great eyes and, you know, he's fast and got all the tools in the back. This is like, this is our five tool player. He's going, Legulus, you're in center field. Now, people are saying, oh, what about Aragorn? Isn't he the most important guy? Sure, but he just got a big sword, man. He's half human. Right field. I got him like an Aaron Judge type, dude. Like go, you're out there. Go hit homers for me, Erdogan. Go chop people's heads off. You got it. Right field is for you. Okay. Gimli clearly is behind the plate. That is my, that's my Alejandro Kirk back there,
Starting point is 00:24:08 raking, just getting calls, you know, back there behind the plate, getting real low, getting my pitch. that low strike for me marian pippin up the middle clearly shortstop second base don't care they they we change we change him out interchangeably short stop second base to keep them happy because everyone wants to play short you just change those guys in and out gandoff clearly on the mound he is my starting pitcher there's no doubt about it you know he's got the staff and he can manipulate the ball any of which way he wants that's an easy one for me so that leaves borrmear froto and sam wise Now, originally, I was thinking, you know, you have to have Boromir at first base because the other two are too small.
Starting point is 00:24:51 I think I'm sticking with that. Boromir, you're going to be my first baseman. So that leaves left field and third base for two of the most important members who are actually doing the dirty work. I kind of feel bad leaving left field for someone. I think Samwise Ganges got to be in left field because he's got other stuff to worry about. he's going to be my player coach and then at least froto at third base and i think i like that frotto's kind of like an ernie clement type definitely going to make contact uh not striking out guarantee that he's ready to hit ready to take on the challenges at hand so he's at third base so it goes
Starting point is 00:25:29 samwise left legless center ergoor right field froto at third base marian pippin up the middle boramere at first base gimley behind the plate and gandoff on the mound that's You have to play it like that. Hey, Coach Trev, big dog. Anyways, the biggest question for you is, if you had to give advice to an 11-year-old you really trying to get a handle on the game of baseball, what is the main drill you would recommend to you back when you're a little little dog? Thanks. big dog back when i was a little dog got you thanks for the question uh shoot i'm right in the thick
Starting point is 00:26:18 of this right now man uh i think the number one thing i would i would say is stop don't compare yourself to other players it's just it's not worth it that doesn't do you any good like just be yourself try to be the best version of yourself and i think a lot of times that sounds like a cop-out answer but it's true like doesn't matter what that guy's doing like just go do you like continue to work now as far as drills go Couple things. Number one, I still think at that age, it's all about repetition. You're still kind of learning your body, growing into your body. So a million ground balls, a million swings. Just go get your hand eye, like set, like set in stone. Your hand eye has to be there.
Starting point is 00:27:00 Mechanics and changing all those things, that'll happen. You'll be able to do that, especially when you get stronger, the changes are easier and make more sense. Like when you're growing, I still think it's all about repetition. So get your hand die. Focus on that. That's it. If I was to give one drill or one biggest piece of advice for what to work on, I think it would be overtraining, especially at the plate.
Starting point is 00:27:27 I would set up a machine or go to the local batting cage, and I'd get in that 80 machine, and I would just watch it. It's scary. I know for like an 11-year-old, that's pretty fast. but I would train I would I would I would over train that way I would even swing not at the beginning I would just sit in there and I would just watch the ball come past me and I would learn the cadence of that and I would slow my body down and I would get in rhythm with 80 and then all of a sudden when you go back in that 60 cage and things gonna be looking like it's
Starting point is 00:27:56 taken a million years to get to you so I truly truly believe in that I think if I was a big lead hitting coach that be one of the things we would do most I would crank that son of a gun up to 110 and I would just train my guy's eyes, slow everything down. To me, that is the best thing that you can do for a hitter in particular is overtrained. Fast, fast, fast, fast, fast, learn how to control your body at that level and then bring it back to the speed that you're going to hit at. It's going to feel, it's going to feel night and day. So that's what I would do. So, Trev, what's up?
Starting point is 00:28:36 Yo, long-time listener, first-time caller. A big lover of all you do, you know, swinging the twig or otherwise. Here's the question for you. When did you know that you belonged in the show? You know, obviously, I know you never reached the hype that you wanted to as far as playoffs, whatever, but, you know, 100 big flies in the show. That's still something to be proud of here. when did you know you've made it
Starting point is 00:29:06 and then when did you know it was it was time to hang it up? What was the final thing? You know, obviously you pumped KK on my field all time, Philly goat, no paying for beers when you're in the city come through but yeah,
Starting point is 00:29:23 when did you know you made it? When did you know it was time to be done? Love you guys. Jake fucking sucks, so thank you. You know how to get into my heart. That's a lot of compliments and you drop the F bomb on the Jake sucks. That got me right there. I appreciate the question. When did I know I made it? I mean, I feel like we talked about this probably more than we
Starting point is 00:29:49 should. 2012, I am an outfielder. Terry Ryan tells me to put my glove, my infield glove away. I come back, spend entire spring training as an outfielder. It doesn't really happen for me. I'm playing very sparingly at the beginning of that year. I'm only on the team because I was out of options looking bleak for me i talked to olivie about this all the time so i'm like i'm very happy in my life right now um and a lot of it has to do with like this particular moment uh it was that year i mean i we had a couple injuries danie valencia was playing third base at the time he wasn't playing well so they end up sending him down and they're just what we didn't really have more infielers on the team um or even on the 40 man necessarily so all of a sudden i have my
Starting point is 00:30:36 infield glub back and I get a start of third base I hit a home run get another start third base hit a home run and like I just I fell into um this this surge this power surge where I just went off and I was hitting the ball extremely well and that coincided with you talked about Justin Orno earlier in the episode it was in New York at Yankee Stadium he took me aside and said like hey they wanted to send you out. They sent Luke Hughes out and they wanted to send me out or I was at least up for consideration for it. And that was the first time that was like face the music bro. Like, hey, it's great. You got a couple cup of coffees here, but this thing can be over before you can even,
Starting point is 00:31:24 before you made any sort of career out of it. And that kind of rewired my brain there a little bit. I started really following his lead there and really establishing a good routine. And then, yeah, that was like that was the month i think i had 11 homers in june that's when i knew i made it and i knew i could do it not only like just be there and and and fight for survival i knew that i could actually thrive in the big leagues and then you look look i didn't have the most illustrious career but i was a starter you know for what six years i think that's pretty cool man so that was that was when i knew it um man that was a lot of fun and set me up to have a really good life so thank you Justin Moreno and June of 2012.
Starting point is 00:32:10 When I knew I was done, man, I mean, I got released by the Phillies or designated for assignment by the Phillies, the trade deadline of 2018, I believe. And I just, I wasn't on the 40 man anymore. And I was 32 years old or 30, yeah, 32. years old. It's really hard to get on the 40 man when you're that age. And I knew, you know, coming back in the 2019, I actually went back to the Phillies on a minor league deal with an invite to spring training. And I knew I wasn't going to get a big lead deal anywhere. So I hadn't
Starting point is 00:32:53 really performed, didn't really deserve one. And to just to get back on the roster, I meant a whole other year at AAA meant like having lightning in a bottle. At the time, I just felt physically and mentally burnt out on the. the whole thing, which I don't know. Maybe I was a wuss. Maybe my wife told me that. She's like, I don't know why you're stopping. But I just felt it, man.
Starting point is 00:33:14 And I am thankful for that because I ended up here on John Boy. I wouldn't have had this opportunity at John Boy Media if I would have continued to play. So I felt it, man, in my bones. And then I was done. Yo, if you could name a sandwich, what would you name it? What? If you could name a sandwich. What would you name it?
Starting point is 00:33:43 I mean, what kind of sandwich? Make it up. That's the thing. What would be your sandwich? Okay, okay. I mean, look, sandwiches are delicious. I'm like trying to get on this health kick right now, so I'm doing a lot of tuna sandwiches on keto bread. That's not my sandwich.
Starting point is 00:33:58 It's good. I like a tuna sandwich. There's the obvious winners of like a Philly cheese steak. Is that even a sandwich? Or is that its own thing? I don't know. My go-to sandwich, though, like I used to order this room service quite a bit as like a club sandwich. That's kind of boring.
Starting point is 00:34:20 But I think that's what I would do. So I like, here's what I like in my club sandwich. And don't hate on me. Give me a good wheat bread. And I want some good turkey breast on that thing. I want bacon. I want avocado. And I want honey mustard.
Starting point is 00:34:36 And that is it. I don't do like lettuce and soggy tomato on my sandwich. I'm just not into that. So, wheat bread, turkey, bacon, avocado,
Starting point is 00:34:46 honey mustard. What do I call that? I don't know what I call that. I have no idea. Something honeybird? I don't know. What would you call it? What's your sandwich,
Starting point is 00:35:01 Robbie? Oh. There's a place by me. Shout out Lepors. They make a chicken, a penny vodka chicken. Oh, sandwich.
Starting point is 00:35:13 Oh. And I mean, it's like my favorite thing ever. I can't stop eating it. I forgot about a chicken parm sandwich. Yeah, with vodka sauce too. Not even, you know. I love a vodka sauce. Me too.
Starting point is 00:35:26 Oh my gosh. Underrated, I think. That's what I'm saying. There's so many sandwiches. So like, do I go health? Do I just go like I'm pinging out, you know, one day? Like a beautiful Italian cold cut. Like, come on.
Starting point is 00:35:37 Yeah. It's tough. But I mean, like the ploof, the honey ploof sounds pretty good. If you're going honey must, with turkey breast. I like the honey must. Yeah, the honey must. The honey must.
Starting point is 00:35:52 Okay. And maybe I swap out turkey breast for chicken breast. Ooh. You can't do, so you can't do chicken breasts with like regular bread. That would have to be a bun. So I'm sticking with a turkey breast. Shout out Gelson.
Starting point is 00:36:06 It's the market out here. That's the best turkey breast. The honey must. Wheat bread. Turkey. Bacon, avocado, honey mustard. Hey, guys. I just wanted to call and ask a question about Trev's minor league career.
Starting point is 00:36:26 I'm from Rochester, New York, and Trev played for my Red Wings. I remember going at games as a kid and seeing this guy with a really weird name playing on my team. And Trev became one of my favorite players because as a five, six-year-old, guy with a weird name was awesome. So my question is, Trev, what's your favorite minor league memory or some story that you have that is the most interesting? Thanks.
Starting point is 00:36:58 Shout out Rochester. Redder Wings. That guy was a kid when I was playing there. You sound just as old as I am. That makes me feel a little bit older. It's fine. I'm turning 40 next year. Favorite memory.
Starting point is 00:37:09 There's a ton. And the minor leagues, man, the minor leagues will give you memories. And especially when I played the minor leagues when it was still like the Wild Wild West. I think there's way more control and structure. Not when I was playing, man.
Starting point is 00:37:24 It was insane some of the stuff that we had to go through. Godly. Okay, I'll give you two. My first year in Pro Ball was Elizabeth in Tennessee Appalachian League, Advanced Rookie Ball. I'm freshly 18 years old. Never been away from my family. All of a sudden, I'm gone playing ball.
Starting point is 00:37:48 But I think I was, I mean, I know I was the youngest guy in the team. First time playing with Latin players, which was awesome, man. And you just, I was like, damn, these guys are so freaking good. I remember, I seriously remember the first time, but I saw a Dominican slider. And I was like, never seen a pitch like that before. So, you know, those are some, you know, I just remember that a lot. But favorite memory from that year. at the stadium in Tennessee
Starting point is 00:38:19 there was like this little creek that ran behind it and we would like literally go after BP like your home team so you hit BP first you have an hour or so to kind of kill we'd go fishing man we'd go fishing for trout I remember throwing this little gold like a little loop like a spoon excuse me little gold spoon out there
Starting point is 00:38:46 and fishing this creek no shoes on catching little little trout and then going and playing a ball game later i was like this is kind of my dream like this isn't kind of this is my dream i love fishing love ball i'm like i have freedom for the first time of my life i just signed for a million and a half dollars at 18 years old i was a king of the world it was great so i remember feeling very very happy at that moment um so that's one the other one was was AAA, little salty vet type stuff here, but it was me. It was me. It was Tim Leahy.
Starting point is 00:39:23 It was Glenn Perkins. We would have midnight barbecues. We'd come home from after the game and we'd set up the barbecue outside of our apartment. And just Glenn would get on there and grill us like chicken thighs. And we would just like sit outside and like literally have a barbecue, but it'd be pitch black outside. And we would just sit around just like being salty, you know, probably talking some shit, but also just kind of. enjoying where we were at. We were all kind of like trying to figure out our lives.
Starting point is 00:39:52 When you're at AAA, there's always that, you know, jealousy of the guys in the big leagues and then, you know, the want and the will to get back up there. So a lot of fun, fun nights doing that with those two. Those are probably my two of my favorite memories. Yo, Travis. This is Sage, I hard daughters, and I live in Seattle.
Starting point is 00:40:13 Question is, what's one rule that you think would, would benefit baseball by adding to it and then what's one rule that you think would benefit baseball by taking away? Other than that, stop letting the haters say that mustache makes you look handsome, bro. Peace. Hell yeah, man.
Starting point is 00:40:34 You and my wife think it looks handsome. It's all the matters. I'll go with, we talked about this recently on the show. I'm out on going like this for an intentional walk. I want to bring back pitchers having to throw. And I know it makes the games a little bit longer, but I think we need the shame back in the intentional walk.
Starting point is 00:40:58 It's bad for the sport as it is because we're taking away, we're taking away Show Hey Otani hitting. Like the most fun thing you can do as a baseball fan is probably watch Sho Hay Otani hit, or one of the most fun things you could do. And we're taking that away. And all we're doing is this. So I want to bring back the shame in intentional walking. Probably like I would like to limit the amount of intentional walks too.
Starting point is 00:41:22 That's something I'd really be interested in. So I don't know what category that goes into like add or takeaway. I guess that's a little bit of both. So maybe I just answered the question right in one thing. Tensional walks, bring back the throw and limit the amount of times that you can do it. It's like a challenge. Like we limit the amount of challenges. I think we should limit the amount of intentional walks per game.
Starting point is 00:41:48 I want to know what your most memorable disastrous plate appearance was and why you still remember it. Easy one for me. Easy one for me. I think it was 2011. Still like slap dick trying to figure out a way to stay on the roster or just be in the big leagues. And we're playing in Detroit and at that time go look at the pitching staff of the Detroit Tigers. They're their menaces. They're menaces. It's ridiculous out of the face those guys. It's not fair to young Trev.
Starting point is 00:42:28 Anyways, you know, we always were looking for tips on pitchers. And, you know, back in the day, it wasn't computers doing it. It was like, your eyeballs. And you had to be on the top step. And I'm, I need, I need help. And Michael Kodier comes back and he goes, hey, got something on this guy. And he gives me like, if he does this, it's a fastball. If he does this, it's the, uh, breaking pitch. And I'm like, hell yeah, dude. Like, I'm about to go, I'm about to go do this. So I end up coming up. I don't know exactly what the situation was, but it was a, it was later in the game, it was probably like the sixth or seventh inning. We had runners in scoring position. It was like a time where I could come up big for the team and like, okay, this guy can play here. This is what we need. And I'm going
Starting point is 00:43:17 up there saying, I got this guy's pitches. Like, this is, this is it for me. So, I'm, I'm on deck and I'm looking. I'm like, all right. Like, I kind of see it. I see it a little bit. All right. All right. Am I convincing myself that I see what Michael Kadiah was talking about?
Starting point is 00:43:35 And I go up there and I'm like, okay, here comes a fastball. Get up there, ready to see a fastball slider. I have no chance at it swing and miss over the top of it. So I'm like, all right, I ain't. Maybe I messed up there. Maybe I got to lock it in a little bit more. So let's go back to this. So then next pitch, I'm like, all right, here comes a slider.
Starting point is 00:44:01 Got this one. I ain't swinging at this thing. No way. You're not going to get me to do that again. Fastball right down the middle of plate. Take it for strike two. At this point, I take a step out. And I'm like, what's going on here, dude?
Starting point is 00:44:18 Like, what do I do? Like, I'm kind of seeing this, but not really seeing it. now I'm in the hole and I don't know like whether to trust this or not get back up there this time I'm like okay I definitely I definitely know a slider's coming so I'm like in protect mode here if I see it down let it go got to get this pitch up fastball bottom of the zone I take it I strike out looking all time horrible at bat it must have looked so bad and it did because Dick Bremer and Bert Blylev and I believe just like blew me up for how bad of an abat it was on the broadcast. Little did they know.
Starting point is 00:45:01 I thought I had the pitches. They were the exact opposite of what the pitches actually were. And it just was like a horrible abat. I have no problem with people like saying, wow, this guy needs to be sent down. And in fact, I believe like two days later, I did get sent down. So disaster of an abat. And that's when I learned like you've got to be, you have to be certain when you go up there with a tell. if you can't see it when you're up at the plate, just ditch it.
Starting point is 00:45:26 Don't even look for it. And sometimes to get it out of my mind, I would close my eyes during like the pre-pitch and then open him back up like when he was like when I knew he was going to start pitching. That's how what you have to do. It's crazy, man. It's up coach Trev, long time listener. Love you, buddy. Just wondering, are you ever going to do sequence again?
Starting point is 00:45:52 Sequences was one of my favorite things. A couple years. ago. That's pretty much it. Love warehouse stuff. Love talking baseball. Also, get some thoughts on the O's
Starting point is 00:46:06 upcoming season. Love you. Jake's love. Okay. I get asked this a ton. It's kind of cool. Sequence was a lot of fun to do. A lot of work.
Starting point is 00:46:17 I think we could probably streamline it a little bit better. Got a lot more employees at the company that could help out with it. I am interested in bringing it back. And I think we have like full like we can actually use highlights and not worry about it. That was like the biggest thing back of the day was like, hey, like I'm kind of like going through all these. These baseball broadcast and like for lack of a better term, like, I don't know, taking.
Starting point is 00:46:44 We didn't have the rights to it essentially. So we thought about that quite a bit. And then, you know, we started doing like baseball today and talking baseball. You know, we're just doing a lot more. So I kind of like put on the back burner. But I'm open to it. uh it's got to be a big discussion because it is it is a lot of work and especially like getting players like at the end that was the hardest thing was like locking down players to come talk about
Starting point is 00:47:05 their bets i think that was the best part of the show like me just like talking over a highlight and explaining it like all right like i could see some value there but going into a hitter's mind and having him go over in a bat pitch by pitch and really what he's thinking and i thought that was the best part of the show and we got some awesome clips like the yellow and barry bonds him talking about hitting was so cool so that i need i need i need some help doing that like getting the guys and and having them give their time is it's a lot to ask um but i'm open to it so we you know i'm sure i'm going to get a slack notification after this episode comes out with hey let's let's get this going again. It's got to be a slow process, but I'm very, very interested in bringing it back because
Starting point is 00:47:55 it was a fun show to do. And I like, I just like talking, hitting with guys. And, you know, people got pictures on every once in a while. But I, I, I liked just the back and forth. That makes me feel like I'm still part of the game and I'm talking hitting with the guys like that. Hey, coach. Warren, you have your, but then when you step onto this baseball field, you go back in time to like real MLB games, what team in what decade would you want to be your field dreams where you reverse.
Starting point is 00:48:36 You go and play baseball back in time rather than the other way around. Thanks. Stay tight. What do you say? Hang tight. Hang tight. Thanks.
Starting point is 00:48:54 Stay tight. Stay tight. Stay tight. I'm trying, bro. I've been working out a lot. You know what Olivia always tells I'm like, I'm just trying to get this muscle going. She's like, you always look muscular.
Starting point is 00:49:05 I'm like, damn, live? I list my day up. I don't always look muscular. Okay, interesting question. I don't know if I truly understand it, but I'm going to give it a go. This is going to sound crazy. I would go back to the 1940s.
Starting point is 00:49:28 I would be on the Boston Red Sox and be me and Ted Williams. and we be teens we be bros i i am such a fan of ted williams for multiple reasons but number one name my son after him so you know i'm a fan uh him and theater roosevelt so those two guys but i have his book the science of hitting think about ted williams a guy who played in the well a bunch of decades 30s 40s 50s and 60s how cool is that so four decades a ball um Imagine him in those eras writing a book called The Science of Hitting, where he talks about the angle of the ball coming to you at home.
Starting point is 00:50:16 And just the mechanics that he talks about, like, he was so far ahead of his time with that. And if you haven't read that book, like, please just go check it out. It's like so in detail and so awesome. One of the all-time hitters in our game. Like, just let's pours his mind. mind out into this book. So I would go back. It'd be me and Ted Williams. We'd be talking hidden, left-handed, right-handed. He'd make me a better hitter. I don't know what I would help
Starting point is 00:50:42 him out with. I'd just be his friend. We'd just have fun together. And then World War II happens. And it'd be me and him. Fighter pilots, bam, do-da-da-do. We'd crush it. And then we'd come back the next year and he'd be MVP-1 in 1946 and I'd be MVP-2. I don't know. That's like fan fiction for me. me and Ted Williams talking ball playing together in Boston I love Fenway going off shooting Nazis in World War II and coming back to major league baseball I think that's pretty cool I mean think I mean forget me in this equation just think about how cool Ted Williams is think about how freaking cool Ted Williams is is he the greatest American ever like maybe he's up there right so I don't know man I just want to play with Ted Williams
Starting point is 00:51:27 I mean his head is frozen so it's possible still yeah that story's crazy and I don't you know I kind of dodged around next I don't know what that actually means like his brain is intact and and I had somebody yesterday tell me that some doctor at Harvard just developed this pill that sets like your your organs back 15 years so you what does that even mean I want that 50? 15 years for me, I'd be 24. That'd be nice. His head and body was taken to Alcor Life Extension Foundation in Arizona.
Starting point is 00:52:07 And his head... Which his body, too? His head was surgically separated from his body. Why? Both were preserved separately in a state of cryogenic suspension. Why do they separate them? I don't know. Oh, his head on a new body, that'd be sick.
Starting point is 00:52:23 Right? Like a young man? that's like some black mirror stuff like the young man comes in gives up his body ted william's head on the young man and then the young man's head goes on ted william's old body i'd give up my body for ted williams that's that's okay that went to kind of i'm kind of freaked out right now but ted williams like name your greatest americans i don't know he's like up there there's a lot of them out there i'm not one of them it's time for free agent Forecast brought to you by Draft King's Use Code.
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Starting point is 00:53:17 And shout out Chris Rose for thinking about this. It's Max Scher. Max Serser to the Giants. veteran in that rotation. He showed he still had it at the end of the year. He reunites with Betelah, who he loves one of his good personal friends. I think it's a no-brainer on a one-year deal. Max Scherzer
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Starting point is 00:54:25 for today guys i really appreciate it was fun some good questions hopefully you guys were entertained um you know off season trips coming up i'm going to japan uh that'll be a lot of fun hopefully bring back some baseball stories from there
Starting point is 00:54:42 it'll talk to you guys but um i appreciate everything love you and Jake sucks Jake fucking sucks that's what we heard this channel I miss you jakey boy we got a text from him texted me jolly and Chris Rose about the the free agent draft and we're the best in the business that's what you said I was like how many glasses of wine deeper you in Italy
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