Talkin' Baseball (MLB Podcast) - Blue Jays Force ALCS Game 7!

Episode Date: October 20, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:01 Hello and welcome to talking baseball. We're getting a game seven. Toronto, hold serve, you savage. Let's play ball. Let's talk ball. Jeff Hoffman. Ernie Clement and base hit. He's unstoppable.
Starting point is 00:00:23 Unbelievable, too. I don't know why they're not walking him. Triple double. Hello and welcome to Talking Baseball, presented by Seekek, use code jam playoffs for 10% off your playoff tickets. and all of our special playoff edition talking baseballs are presented by T-Mobile. Is that plural?
Starting point is 00:00:43 Talking baseballs? Whether you're streaming the game out and about checking stats on the road are experiencing ballpark perks with magenta status. T-Mobile's where you got to be. So head on over to T-Mobile.com slash network. I'm Jake Storelli. Rob Seraco is producing. Trevor Ploof is here.
Starting point is 00:01:00 And Trev, I just mentioned, you know, T-Mobile when you're out and about. You just came back from U. your neighborhood, Galavant, jaunt? What do you call that thing? It's,
Starting point is 00:01:12 it's kind of like A-list celebs and you. Basically. And me? Yeah, I guess you're right. No, it's a fiesta we call it.
Starting point is 00:01:19 A parade. We have a chili cookoff, a bake sale, art show, and then a big carnival. And there's a car show, a lot of stuff going on in my neighborhood.
Starting point is 00:01:29 But I wanted to bring up one thing because it's like, maybe my all-time favorite thing to do. And then we'll get into some ball, people. Just let me have this for a second. You know, what do you call the thing where you take the hammer and you smash it and then the thing goes up and hits the bell?
Starting point is 00:01:45 I don't know. What's that game called? Yeah. Hammer game. Smash your game. Yeah. Rob's going to look it up, but yeah, the smash game. Smash game, right? We got these dudes. There's like, there's a bunch of like guys that I know in the neighborhood who were just like big muscular guys. Yeah. But like they don't, they don't know how to manipulate their body for strength. They don't swing the stick like you. No. So we had a bunch of guys and I'm,
Starting point is 00:02:06 just standing back there. It's not like it's a competition, but like, you know, everyone's, they're, go with their kids and dad, win me the prize and none of these guys can do it. None of them can do it. I get up there and just whack the shit out of this thing. Bing! Ring the bell. Win my daughter the prize.
Starting point is 00:02:24 It's as proud as I've been in a long time of myself. So I just wanted to make sure that everyone knows. I still got it. I'm so sorry to our Toronto fans. Treb said, ask me what happened at the neighborhood party. I didn't know. I did not know. I'm happy for you. What do you call that game? I can't imagine. High striker. High striker. That's not what it's called. That's ridiculous. That's what it says right here. I can't imagine the fatherly pride you had when you won that for your daughter. So I'm happy for you. But for the rest of the episode, we were not talking
Starting point is 00:02:55 about that because Toronto, Toronto holds serves wins one of their biggest postseason games in what, 30 years, something like that. And we, We're going to have a lot of history on the line for tomorrow night, Trev, but we can't get to tomorrow without tonight, so let's talk about it. Toronto's last chance is to shoot the tray ball as you savage gets the rock against Walter Low Gill for Seattle trying to send them to the World Series. Bottom two, how's your barger, RBI single, IKF RBI. Ah, it's two nothing J's into the third.
Starting point is 00:03:41 You need to focus, take that addie. It's prescribed to run Homer and Vliddo. Homer has Seattle calling the police. Woo, whoo! It's 5 OJs. Josh nails one and Gino's stakes a little buckle in the knees. But Guerrero gets that insurance, Geico run. You savage to Varland to Hoffman.
Starting point is 00:04:06 the best words in sports. Game seven, Toronto, win six two final. Bob, we are getting it. The standings for the series, each team three and three. That means we're getting the game seven that we wanted.
Starting point is 00:04:24 It's going to be tight, you know what's all around the diamond. The managers are going to be freaking out, making crazy decisions. Everybody's got their spikes on. I don't care who you are. Even you savage is going to put his spikes back on.
Starting point is 00:04:41 He doesn't give a shit. Yeah, put him back on, bro. You might have to go out there. I don't know what's going to happen. I'm excited, though. You know what? Congrats to Toronto. You get banged around the first two games of the series at home.
Starting point is 00:04:53 And all of a sudden, you force the game seven in front of your home crowd, although we have some stats that that's not a good thing as of late. Yeah, some of the game seven stats, a little bizarre. But let's get through game six. because that's what Toronto had to do tonight. And they did it. And normally, Trev, I give you the, where do we start? I'm going to cut you off at the past because I think it's you savage.
Starting point is 00:05:21 A lot more sliders tonight, sliders and splitters from Trey. Dude, I had to remind myself about fifth inning that he's a rookie. Like his composure is perfect. and the story that's going down for both sides, those double play balls, the three double plays, bases loaded, Cal Raleigh up. I mean, that kind of burst Seattle's bubble and just an amazing lights out season on the line performance
Starting point is 00:05:53 from a kid who started in low A this year. You savage story of the game, Jay's defense story of the game, and Mariners' lack of defense. Those are the three for me right there. But yeah, big time situations coming up. And look, so much can happen when you load the bases. It doesn't matter who's up.
Starting point is 00:06:15 I mean, an air can cause two runs. A walk's obviously going to score or one. But when you go out and get three double plays in a row in those situations, two with the basis loaded, it's the first time that's happened in the postseason that was flying around. I think that shows a level of composure that is usually saved for, a more savvy vet. But here's your savage, like you mentioned,
Starting point is 00:06:37 a rookie, you know, six starts into his big league career, inducing, you know, a double play against what many people consider the MVP of the American League in the biggest situations. It's just incredible, man. You got to love it. And I, you know what? Like watching IKF and Jimenez at the middle is pretty good. It's pretty good.
Starting point is 00:07:02 I KF hitting him with a little Steph Curry. He threw it up, didn't me. And we're going home. I mean, you don't see that a lot in this sport. They were feeling it, man. And why wouldn't they be? They're playing great baseball right now. They don't look like they're nervous out there.
Starting point is 00:07:19 I think there are times that, especially tonight, we saw some guys for Seattle playing a little tighter. You know, like Suarez, Ehuyah, he's not the best defender over there. But, you know, when you get into a pressure-pack situation and you make a that first air. I guess I have to give credit to him too, because he came back on that Vladdy Ground ball, but you make that first air. Things get a little bit tighter.
Starting point is 00:07:40 He's got the ICF Grounder, which was a do-or-dye play. You know, I don't know. I don't know what he was doing on that one. It kind of came up on him, but then he acted like he had it. That was weird. I didn't really understand that you feel like you know when you have the ball or not. Especially with an infield, there's glove.
Starting point is 00:08:00 It's a smaller glove. So I didn't really understand that. He feels and he looks and then he still goes for it when it wasn't there. It was bizarre. It wasn't there at all, dude. But yes, you know, give him credit, though, because that game could have got out of hand very, very quickly. And I believe, tell me if I'm wrong here, but Gilbert struck out two people in a row after that in that inning to get out and then got the ground ball, correct? So there was a walk in between.
Starting point is 00:08:30 He walks. Oh, that's right. Was it four pitches? Yeah. Holding on the two runs there, I said, that's huge. Yeah. And again, a nice play by Gino. You're going to see it right here, 116 off the bat, and he's, I think, so you're uptight.
Starting point is 00:08:44 You don't necessarily want the ball hit at you again. That ball was hit so hard. It's just a reaction play. You have no time to think. So that was, that's good. Good for Gino right there to get back in it. But, yeah, again, the Mariners defense was pretty bad all game line. I want to even jump before that.
Starting point is 00:09:02 You know, you talk about Seattle playing loose and so often in these games the teams that get the first run, and, you know, there's stats on that, that you win 70% of the time, whatever it is. Varshow hits what's ruled a single. His speed puts the pressure on Julio that I was so excited to see that this play, play out. Like the second Varsho hit it, I was like,
Starting point is 00:09:25 wait, if Julio cuts this off, there's going to be an awesome play at second base, because the way Varsho runs, they showed his steps afterwards. It looked like he got a little choppy that if Julio fielded it cleanly, that he might have done one of those just slam on the brakes and then go back to first.
Starting point is 00:09:44 And then think about it, that next ball is the ball to Aeohenio from Ernie Klement, that that actually would have been a tailor-made double play ball. So like in the world of baseball, in this game, especially where we saw three demoralizing double plays for Seattle. That could have been the same thing, but like the unwindingness of baseball ended up leading to a two-run inning
Starting point is 00:10:09 that you're right, it felt lucky for Seattle to get out with just two. I will say having played in Toronto and, you know, in just artificial turf fields in general, in these situations, high-intensity games, the ball tends to speed up on you. And then you add into the fact that these are fast surfaces when you're playing on artificial turf. I think the lack of, you know, how many, how many games have the Mariners played there this year? Three in the regular season, correct?
Starting point is 00:10:39 And then this will be, that was their third game. So there's their six game playing there. It's not a lot of practice time. And to get used to bounces and the speed of everything, it is a little bit different there. Not to give them, you know, excuses. But, you know, I could, I could see how they'll be, they'd, be some balls where you're going. And again, the game is already sped up because of the pressure situation. And you add on that turf and the bounces are just a little bit different. It's not as
Starting point is 00:11:05 natural as a grass surface. So, you know, Toronto obviously plays there all the time. There's no problem for them. Yeah. And it, again, baseball and I don't know, world and butterfly effect doesn't work like this. But I think A Eugenia was playing a little shallower than he would have on the Ernie Clement ball because Varsho was at second. So again, just like the sliding doors of that inning. Yeah, Logil ends up, anyone call
Starting point is 00:11:32 him Low Gill? I think so. Yeah. Like Locane? Locane, Loggill. Gets out of there. I mean, Vladdy comes up. Base is loaded. And he hits into the fielders choice the Suarez play like you mentioned.
Starting point is 00:11:50 And then, yeah, man, I mean, it's bases loaded was it bases loaded for Cal Raleigh that very next inning so it's 2-0 and that's yep that's one of those playoff scores that you wonder you know hey every arm is available sometimes a 2-0
Starting point is 00:12:07 score can hold there you are in the next inning bases loaded with a guy who's hit 60 plus dingers this year and a great play by Vladdy who there's been a lot of discussions about his first base play some of his stretching are a little more unique or new to the position.
Starting point is 00:12:25 He, this postseason, he has put on an exhibition. You're a moving, coach. Around the base pass, around first base, trying to get pickoffs, throwing the tag down. I mean, this play right here was really nice. Throwing on the run right there, not an easy thing to do. This double play, so we had to go watch or go visit Olivia's dad's, dad's my father-in-law.
Starting point is 00:12:49 So I'm watching on my phone. and we get into my neighborhood notorious for not having any fucking service. I got seven minutes from the gate to my... Which is nuts, by the way. It's insane. I got seven minutes from the gate to my house, okay? That's what I got.
Starting point is 00:13:04 So I'm there. I got my phone. I'm like, oh shit, Cal Raleigh's up. They have a mound visit. I'm like, gosh, I know I'm about to lose service. So he steps in the box. I lose service. So we hustle home.
Starting point is 00:13:17 You're blind. I had no idea what happened. Turn the TV on. it's already the next inning. I had to go back and watch it. And I was like, oh my gosh, I couldn't believe it. John Stamos lives in your neighborhood and you guys have no cell phone service. It's insane, dude.
Starting point is 00:13:31 That's nuts. It's insane. We need to get T-Mobile out there. Build a tower. Don't get me started. There's a lot of things going on. But, I mean, I guess what a job by the Blue Jays and you savage. And, like, they just, you know, we're going to get into eventually.
Starting point is 00:13:50 and I guess right now about the Mariners starting pitching and like the lack of effectiveness by them the series. And you could say, oh, you know, like they just haven't been good. But like give credit to the Blue Jays hitters for getting after these guys, making them work. That's like the offense that they are making pitchers work, contact oriented. And it's shown up in this series a ton, man.
Starting point is 00:14:14 Like, all we did was bang the table and talk about the Mariners got this starting pitching, even though it wasn't as good this year as it has been in years past. There was injuries, a little inconsistency. But it's still a calling card for that organization, and it just hasn't been this series. Logan Gilbert, game two, three innings, two earned three runs. George Kirby, four innings, eight earned. Luis Castillo, 2.1, that kind of controversial pull. Three earned runs.
Starting point is 00:14:41 Bryce Miller, four innings one earn in game five, and Logan Gilbert, four innings, four and five runs. Yeah, that's, the Blue Jays are a problem, man. I mean, you know, when we do our live streams, we're, we're having fun. We're watching baseball. We're chilling. Obviously, our hearts aren't as in a Seattle Blue Jays series like they would be a Mariners or Blue Jays fan, but we've still had a ton of people turn out and we're just rooting for good baseball.
Starting point is 00:15:12 And, man, there's so many guys that come up for the Blue Jays that, okay, in a normal series, you're facing, you face the opposition. And it's like, okay, they have two, three-star players. One of the stars is cold. One of the stars is super hot. The other guy is right in the middle. A little, you know, what's that? Three little bears?
Starting point is 00:15:34 Goldilocks? Goldilocks. Thank you. Rob, Rob muted me for Goldilocks. Thank you. And then normally there's a guy on the team that you look at and you're like, okay, I've known that guy for years, but for whatever reason,
Starting point is 00:15:49 he's on fire. Jorge Polanco earlier this series was okay, I know he's a good ball player, but he's going nuts right now. Like we need to start pitching around Jorge Polanco. I know Ernie Clement has become like a running joke on this program, but he's on one. Addison
Starting point is 00:16:05 Barger gives me the same feeling, dude. Yeah. He's getting there, coach. That's skipping Kirk, that skipping Springer, who the knee, like we're an interesting spot there. But you start trickling down this lineup and you're like, KF has been getting hot, getting on base. Jimenez has two impact homers that there's just so many guys in this lineup that you look at
Starting point is 00:16:26 and you're like, I don't, you look at them and you're like, I don't want to deal with you right now. Yeah, it's, it's pesty at bats. You know, they keep talking about on the broadcast and, you know, I think Big Poppy after the game was talking about Don Maddenly saying, hey, look, we're going to be hitters first and then we'll worry about everything else. they truly feel like a team that is that. Like we're going to put the ball and play as much as possible.
Starting point is 00:16:52 We'll take our swings we need to take our swings. It is just so difficult and frustrating for a pitcher, especially these starters, this series, to deal with them. Because these Mariners, they do have strikeout stuff, but the Blue Jays, that's just, they're able to mute that. And I mean, they have kind of like the kryptonite to the Mariners starting pitching staff. right now. It's just good quality
Starting point is 00:17:17 A, B's, good takes, all that stuff. And it's, it's got to be frustrating for the Mariners starters. And somebody in the chat puts something great. So shout them out. It's already gone. I can't read it anymore. Are we going to see a Brian Wu like five-inning Johnny
Starting point is 00:17:33 tomorrow? Because right now, what do you say? We said Kirby's starting unconfirmed? Kirby is the one that's confirmed. And Shane Beaver is expected. not confirmed. Oh, I thought it was the opposite. Let's all. Oh, he got confirmed for us. Going off Dalton Shee. Let's before, because game seven does get really exciting and it's probably the biggest preview will give for a game coming up because it's literally game seven to go to the World Series for these two franchises that don't have a lot of that recently.
Starting point is 00:18:10 I guess let's close the loop on this game. Jeff Hoffman with two innings. What does that mean for tomorrow? Does it mean nothing? We'll get there in a second. But just the fact that he threw two clean innings, he kind of hadn't been that guy for Toronto. So it was kind of interesting with that buffer four-run lead. They push the button for him for two innings.
Starting point is 00:18:31 Gets a couple strikeouts at the end. It's his first time being stretched out two-innings since April. So maybe that carries over. Vladie, with the most post-season homers in a post-season in Jay's history. so that's not a bad thing. The Mariners three errors, the most they've had in a season this season. Just kind of repeating myself because I'm knocking the words out great. I was shocked to see that.
Starting point is 00:18:59 My Yankees have done that in a long weekend this year. Yeah. And Cal Raleigh, I don't know. 0 for 4, 3Ks, the throwing error on Vladdy taking the extra base there that I don't know. In a lot of these games, we try to zoom in on stars, even though baseball doesn't work that way necessarily, but tough day at the office for Big Cal.
Starting point is 00:19:25 I mean, O411 with 4Ks for the top three hitters for the Seattle Mariners. And I don't know what else there is to say about this game. I feel like we've said all we need to say. I do want to start talking about game seven because I am pretty juice for it. That wasn't even that bad of a throw right there by, by a Cal just Gino on the other side of the bag, not really ready for that. And credit to John Smoltz just bagging on Gene. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:50 Credit to Vladdy for putting the pressure on. Vladdy plays with heart and hustle, and you have to respect that. And I even... Oh, dude, he is going all out. Dude, and one of our... I'm going to go back or maybe BBD or someone. When we do our midweek interviews with Boone, one time after playing Toronto, I mentioned something about Vladdy's hustle and he does that signature.
Starting point is 00:20:12 like all out dive to home play and Boone just kind of brush it off and he's like that that doesn't mean anything it means something dude it's kind of something the Yankees organ general is missing so that's some rooted stuff for me let's get into game seven and it's brought to you by it might have to double up people we love you uh it's brought to you by best western uh today's episode is sponsored by best western i mean what a time uh just make the drive from seattle tonight you get to best West Western in the morning. I don't, Rob, can you look that up? Can you get to Seattle to Toronto if you started driving now?
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Starting point is 00:22:26 You're going to go to something. Save yourself 10%. JM playoffs at CKkeke. All right, Trev. Game 7. One game for Toronto to go back to the World Series for the first time in over 30 years. Seattle for their first ever chance to go to the World Series.
Starting point is 00:22:48 And it looks like it just got updated in our sheet. George Kirby versus Shane Bieber. Those will be the starting pitchers tomorrow. And, you know, getting ahead of some of the stuff, as Treve already mentioned at the top. Spikes are on for everyone. If you don't have it in the first, I don't care that you're Shane Bieber and you've got a sigh in the bag. coming out. If you're Kirby and you have any signs of not having it, you're coming out. It's all hands on deck. I don't know, Treve, where do you start? I want to start with the Blue Jays.
Starting point is 00:23:24 Okay, you get Bieber. Who's the first person out of the pen? Let's just say he gives you a decent outing. Let's say he gives you five innings pitched, two runs. Like, where are, where does Schneider go? I don't think he has a ton of faith in his bullpen right now. I think he still likes Louis V. I think Louis V scares the shit out of every single person in Toronto right now. He's got stuff, but he's homer prone.
Starting point is 00:23:54 Hoffen just threw two innings tonight. So like, what does that mean for tomorrow? Like the adrenaline will be there. I'm sure his stuff will be fine. But they saw him tonight. So where do you go? Like, is Mad Max coming out of the pen? he's in play.
Starting point is 00:24:11 Like immediately, is he a guy you go to in the sixth inning? Like, where, like, where, like, where, where, where, where, where, where, where is he fit in? I'm just, I'm so intrigued with pitching decisions for a game set. What jumped out to me about tonight's box score was, it was all righties. It was you savage. It was Varland. It was Hoffman. So I think Beaver gets the start and you're, you're going to ride that out, whether that's one inning, six in a dream.
Starting point is 00:24:38 Like, let's. And he's Shane Bieber. Like, you know, let's see what he's got. But if you have to push the button, you have to push the button. I think right now, I think that he's scared to use his lefties. Brendan Little was their guy during the year. He came in. He got rocked and kind of lost them the last game.
Starting point is 00:24:58 Flew Hardy's young and came on for them late in the season, but I don't know where he stands with Flew Hardy. And then the other guy's Lauer. So I think it's Bieber. Gossman. I think Gossman is in play before Scherzer. For the lefties split, I like that. So I would think Bieber, Gossman.
Starting point is 00:25:19 Beber to Gossman to Louis. I think Varland is absolutely in play for an inning, inning plus if he looks good. I think Sir Anthony's in play. And then I think Hoffman, I would have Hoffman as your fireman. Like he, has Chris Bassett, Mike, is Chris Bassett pitched? Chris Bassett's on this team. He pitched in game one at the end when they were getting blown out. Okay.
Starting point is 00:25:49 That I don't, maybe they didn't like what they saw, because otherwise I would have think they would have gotten him in the mix by now. I don't know. That's a wild card. But yeah, I think, I mean, Treb, I don't want to get you too aged up. It's 1137 on the East Coast. Your guy Matthew through five touchdowns this morning. He's a new king of England.
Starting point is 00:26:15 Trev. Out of the bullpen. Mad Max Scherzer comes sprinting in. Looking essentially like he's wielding a sword. Just ready to kill anyone that's in his way. I don't know how that has to happen. I would like to see that for baseball. are we going a no reliever
Starting point is 00:26:40 reliever situation are we going bebes Gossman Scher's Bassett I agree I don't know if Bassett's in no I don't think Bassett's in play I don't know about that Everyone's in play
Starting point is 00:26:55 yeah but like realistically we're going through like John Schneider's what his ideal like lanes are I guess here's my question of you Toronto is up one in the ninth inning. Who's their ideal person to go to tomorrow?
Starting point is 00:27:12 Because I don't think I know the answer. I mean, you paid Jeff Hoffman to be that guy. How much does that mean in that situation? It's like you're going with the guy you trust the most. I don't think he trusts anybody in the bullpen right now. I think the answer is Gossman. But how do you get there without Gossman? Five from Beebbs, four from Goss.
Starting point is 00:27:38 Because who cares? You're not trying to set your rotation for the World Series. First of all, it's not until Friday. And second of all, you've got to win this game. So I could see a situation where we just get like two starters piggybacking. But that means that means that they're pitching good. Yeah, maybe it's it's maybe it's Bieber to Varland to Hoffman and then Gosman, however far those three got you.
Starting point is 00:28:06 Like you think he sets up Gosman. he's like if we get if we had the lead and it's the top of the seventh can you give us three big dog in my head yes but i it gets really tricky it i mean that's the great the great game calisi like because if if you have if you have one of those guys give it up before gossman then did you even have the chance so i don't know man that's um that's clearly what's what's to watch for for Toronto tomorrow. I think the other thing that's in play for me, do they do anything with Springer? Do you think he's hurt? I think he was going down after a lot of swings. He went
Starting point is 00:28:54 over. He had a four-pitch walk. He's their lead-off hitter. And he's the guy that got you to the day. I don't think so, but I just want to put it out into the evening. Yeah, he's playing. He's playing and he's leading off. Like, we got. Not here. George Springer with one leg. Yeah, I agree. What he should do. Pull the yoke do.
Starting point is 00:29:15 Like first at bat just kind of limp up there. Like, oh my God. I'm so hurt. And then just fucking turn on one. First pitch ambush. I like that. I think so. All right.
Starting point is 00:29:30 So that's Blue Jay's pitching situation. I think the Mariners have a little bit more faith in some of the guys. So the problem. Back end. They trust Moon. So Munoz, I mean, this is playoff mode. Munoz has to be ready for two minimum. Like you're, you're the guy, pal.
Starting point is 00:29:52 Like, and potentially, you know, potentially Munoz for them is a difference maker because they can go crazy like, hey, if it's a tied game in the fifth. That is, that, woo and Gossman are the X factors in this game. When do you bring him in where, what situation? I just think Munoz is the difference maker on Seattle side because if it's tied in the fifth, they can just say, hey, we want to press the Munoz button now.
Starting point is 00:30:21 We think this is going to be our best chance to score. We want to keep you at zero. We're going to shoot it. And maybe Wu's behind that. Like, he's, he's the guys putting the fire out? If you need it, like I think, you know,
Starting point is 00:30:35 I think the Mets on the last day of the season when they needed to win to get in, they shot Edwin Diaz. in like the fifth inning. Like he's, he is something different that Toronto doesn't have, that they can change their equation that way. I think the,
Starting point is 00:30:50 the thing that I would have circled going in tomorrow, besides Brian Wu, I think, you know, again, that turns into, like you said, the Gosman conversation, do they want to shoot him early? If they wanted to shoot Munoz early, was Wu a good safety plan for late.
Starting point is 00:31:06 Circle Gabe Spire for me. These Toronto lefties are, are monsters. Lucas, Barger, even like Jimenez at the bottom of the lineup, how are they going to shoot Spire tomorrow? Because I think you get one shot to shoot him and you're hoping he can go Lucas to Varsho to Barger. But that is one, two, three, four, five, six hitters in the lineup.
Starting point is 00:31:34 And by the way, the righties in there are Vladi, Kirk, and Clement. And Springer. Well, if you skip Springer, if he's the lead off hitter and you start him at Lucas. I don't know how much spire we're going to see tomorrow. I mean, really? Okay, here. Here's a situation I think we get him in. Two outs.
Starting point is 00:31:57 Really? Okay. Lefty. Like to have him in there and say three batters, I don't know if that's Dan Wilson's like he wants to do that right now. But if he does get a situation where, yeah, it's one out and you got two lefties. and I get, I mean, I think if it's two outs, you bring him in. You just got to have your dogs out there.
Starting point is 00:32:21 Right. You make sure however this goes down, you want to feel good about it. And, dude, Spire's gotten him to the dance. He's been one of the best lefties in the league. He's been used a lot. He's got a double off day between today and yesterday. What's the lane for him that you're talking about right now
Starting point is 00:32:39 for like three lefties. I mean, ideally, the safest bet would be Varshot, Clement, Barger, IKF. Jimenez. You're missing that, yeah. You're missing Lucas there,
Starting point is 00:32:53 but you're also missing Vladian Kirk. So that might be your tradeoff. I could see a Barger, IKF. Jimenez role for him. That's what we're going to go. That's where I would say spires in play. Other than that, I don't think so.
Starting point is 00:33:11 The other thing that could potentially be in play here is Seattle likes a lot of their guys more that they could, they could ick up this whole thing. I mean, Bizarro was nasty again tonight and it feels like that dude can just pitch every day. Matt Brash has got them to the dance. I know, I know where you're at, but you know they're going to shoot him in the proper lane. Or maybe they don't. Maybe they do just go woo.
Starting point is 00:33:40 I don't think he's in play tomorrow. I don't. I think Bizarro is in play tomorrow. Brian Wuzon played tomorrow. I can see Gabe Spire in that situation that we talked about. And I do think Munoz, strap it on, buddy, take an extra pain off because you're going to have to go 60 pitches or whatever the heck.
Starting point is 00:33:55 Not 60. That's ridiculous. No. Two innings. It's game seven. Like two innings. I hope he doesn't throw 60 pitches. That's a lot of pitches.
Starting point is 00:34:04 I think 50s in play. This is it. This is it. Like two and two thirds, 50 pitches? Sheesh. It's a. It's the beauty in every sport. I mean, game seven with hockey, like those guys are just dogs and run each other
Starting point is 00:34:21 ragged, and by the end they're barely holding their bodies together. This is just so baseball becomes a different sport. Like, all of the pitching stuff we just talked about, I mean, when do you potentially shoot like a pinch runner in a tide game or swap someone out for defense? Because once it's done, it's done. Oh my God. I'm so excited.
Starting point is 00:34:46 Yeah. Who's going to bunt how early are bunt's coming? I feel like they've been coming out very early in this series. No, Jimenez had one and then pulled it back because, you know, there was crashing, tried to slash, whatever it was. I care if you know is going to try to bun at some point. So that's, we're going to have a zude bunt tomorrow. Guaranteed. Guaranteed.
Starting point is 00:35:08 Who's going to zoo it? That's the fun game. God. I don't even know. I wonder. Louise can steal out of the pen. Like Seattle has a lot of buttons. They got more options than the Blue Jays do.
Starting point is 00:35:25 I think for pitching. Yes. Well, yes. But the Blue Jays still have a ton. Like if Bieber's not there, okay, Scherzer. Like, I know. Like, in my mind, I'm still hating on Scherzer. I can't, I got to get over that.
Starting point is 00:35:41 I know, I know I like put, put the lefties down. but if you're, you know, if J.P. Crawford and Canzone and Revis are coming up, you might have to shoot the lefty there and they can get through that. So I'm, it's literally everyone with spikes on. I have no idea how Carlos Vargas isn't better, because that guy just throws one. It's too many chains. Take a chain off. No, I think one more chain. Oh, one more, okay. One more chain. I'm looking at those chains. How do you throw, like, one time I put Miguel Sino's chain on and weighed like 50, pounds. And I'm like, how do you play with this thing? And he's like much bigger than me.
Starting point is 00:36:19 But anyways, uh, Miguel Snow, I think the biggest thighs I've seen in person. Um, also, again, something I just love about this beautiful game of Vargas from the DR in the box versus Vladdy. Vladdies who's the baddest man in the world. We're in Toronto. Hey, boys. Figure it out. Here's 101 coming at you. It's, it's just. It's insane. A couple of Dominican dudes in Toronto playing ball is so beautiful to me. I like love thinking about, you know, I know Vladdy like has a history there, but like real like DR Venezuelan dudes coming up and all of a sudden they're in Canada playing ball against each other with a bunch of freaking nutty fans. Like to me that is maybe the most beautiful thing about our sport.
Starting point is 00:37:11 It truly, truly is, man. Vargas and Vladdy are both 26. Did they ever meet up on a backfield at like age 14? Was Vladdy playing in like the same backfields as like these other Dominican dudes that didn't grow up with a dad that's a Hall of Famer? I don't really know. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:37:28 Yeah. It doesn't matter. The mode he is in at the plate is one of those awesome postseason. I'm locked in. Oh, no. We're going to get the best version of Rams. Andy tomorrow because it's game seven?
Starting point is 00:37:46 He's been missing a little bit. A lot of big swings from Randy and there's going to, I think, I guess in my head, that's the fun part. I think you're going to see Seattle with just massive swings. Like I think that's how they, look at Naylor tonight, look at Gino, although he's found himself a couple singles out of it. Like, Julio's taking daddy hacks, Cal's taking daddy hacks, where you're right with Toronto, that first time that they have the chance to play small ball,
Starting point is 00:38:13 which probably the first or second inning because it feels like they hit a lead off double every other inning. That first opportunity to play small ball and put the pressure on Gino at third and Naler at first. Like, that's going to be a part of it. Is Cal going to be the hero?
Starting point is 00:38:32 It's been a heroic season. Seattle's never been to the World Series. We need a Cal versus Vladdy Knight. We haven't really had that yet. Oh, okay. Yeah, we need like, I called it, remember remember at the end of last episode you said what's going to happen i said i love to see cow hit one then bladdy you know like we i want i want that back to back cal end up hit into
Starting point is 00:38:58 a double play instead of the homer you don't want the clement rivas game i also really want that too ernie clement i think is my favorite player right now i i'm gonna fake chris rose you a little bit. Who you got, pal? I keep thinking the Mariners are going to win, but Blue Jay's got the sauce right now, dude. I legitimately have no idea. That's the truth.
Starting point is 00:39:25 I have no idea. I'm leaning Blue Jays because of what I just saw, but if I came in here and was like, okay, game seven between these two teams, I think I would take the Mariners. But again, I just watched the Blue Jays,
Starting point is 00:39:43 play like pretty much perfect baseball right there to force the game seven. It's hard to pick against them. But then we said we were going to mention some stats for home teams in game seven, and it's about split overall, but seven of the last eight home teams playing in the game seven have taken the L. Is there more pressure at home? Is that just straight up luck or coincidence? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:40:14 808 tomorrow. I'm kind of going to double down just because it's what I said at the start of the series. Before the playoffs, I picked Seattle to go. Before this series, I picked Toronto to win. Good way to hedge in like... What?
Starting point is 00:40:30 But the reason I did it is because it was honest, and I said, Toronto's so good at hitting that I think Seattle has to knock them out in like five. and here we are in seven and I just dude those guys it feels different man every Lucas at bat I think he's going to get a hit every barger at bat I think he's going to get a hit
Starting point is 00:40:56 Kirk flat it's up and down the lineup man that I don't know I basically I just want to follow up on on that point I said coming in because I haven't seen a lot like this dude and I don't know I do like it feels like Seattle has more pitching options like what's going to run out first can we do the thing where we ask the chat
Starting point is 00:41:19 to do something then we just see it all go crazy okay chat in three I want you on three I want you to pick or to put who you think's going to win game seven you talking to the chat one I'm chat god one two
Starting point is 00:41:34 three who's going to win game seven chat let us know yeah we're going to read them off as we send our way out here. A shelfy ad. Man. We got a poll. 74% think the Blue Jays are going to win. Of course there's a lot of Blue Jays fans in here today.
Starting point is 00:41:53 Wow. I think I'm one of them. Oh, God, it's a lot of Jays right now. Although, to be fair, if I was a Mariners fan, I don't know if I'd be listening to this right now. Actually, that's kind of the best time to listen when you're sad. Just keep it rolling. I love the chat, man.
Starting point is 00:42:12 We need to go live more often. You are chat, God. Coach, tomorrow night. Me and you, Pop. After game seven, we're going to recap the game, and then we'll probably take Tuesday off, and then I think Wednesday, the plan is to record what will be a World Series preview
Starting point is 00:42:31 between the Dodgers and we'll find out. Yeah, we'll find out. We don't even know where the game's going to be yet. I know I'm trying My plan Here just if the Mariners win My plans to go to game two Okay
Starting point is 00:42:48 I'll hustle home and film the up You're a hustler I think We'll figure it all out Thank you guys so much if you're listening Subscribe share with a friend All that YouTubey stuff What's up chat
Starting point is 00:43:05 We're going to know the World Series Tomorrow night Golly. We're aged up. Give me Scherzer out of the pen. At least I want to see, like, a camera fixated on him in the bullpen. I want his ass out there. There should be a Max Scher's camera the entire game.
Starting point is 00:43:35 I want him throwing without getting a call. Just fucking. I'm ready, coach.

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