Talkin' Baseball (MLB Podcast) - Braves Win the Best Game of the Playoffs! | 727

Episode Date: October 10, 2023

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Hello and welcome to talking baseball. We're recapping game twos of the National League Divisional Series. Both had some awesome moments, some real playoff baseball energy. Let's do it. Hello and welcome to talking baseball. It's October 10th day before Jake's birthday. My father's birthdays in two days. Or it's today, I always forget.

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Our first non-night shift. Thank you for the people for letting us be able to do that. What a night. What a night. Can't wait to talk my snakes in a minute. Can't wait to talk some... An early talking baseball celebrity, young, Thick Austin Riley with a moment.

And we get to hear from Old Thick, Trevor Plouf. Are there a lot of rodeos in Nebraska? I'm not really familiar with Nebraska. terrain to be honest to be. There's got to be. It's not there than when. I mean,

Western Nebraska. I'm more of a Montana guy myself. Well, Ogalala, Nebraska. Place smells like the roads are paved with horseshit. I can't wait to hear your guys

takes on some of these plays in these games. Clearly, we had an all-timer from Philly's Braves. That'll be fun to discuss. But then these pesky, they're not even pesky snakes.

He's dangerous, venomous. James, let me finish. Venomous, dangerous young rattlesnakes that don't know how to control their venom. They're just scorting it everywhere. They're pesky. I agreed with what she said originally. They're dangerous, but they're also, they're not like,

they're still sneaking. They're still, they're still, pesky. They're still sneaking around. They're still snakes, you know. They're not knocking on your door and saying, here I come. Bumps. I mean, bunting for a base hit in the fur.

Hey, we're doing. We're going out of order. These socks were given to me by former D-Bex bench coach. Pepe, Eretta. He's now with the Marlins. They lost. But hey, look at these snake socks. Let's burn it.

Does Dalton know I have those? He would wear those every day. He would wear them every day. He would wear them today. Then they won't win again. Don't do it, dog. The Phillies would try to win back-to-back poker games in Atlanta while Zach wheeling and dealing for Philly,

while the Braves hoped Maximus Freed would be the gladiator they needed to get a win. The Bowman isn't too big for Alec, RBI single, and nobody called anyone a J.T. Real Mudo with a two-run, dong, and after a fifth inning, sack fly, it's four nothing Phillies, oh? Not again, not again. Ozzy Airborne with the single to score Ronnie.

Little Trey error there too. But the Braves would need some heroic. Do you know what I'm talking about? Travis with the two-run homer to make it a one-run game. Bottom eight. I got my peaches up in Georgia. Hit that pitch. One arm swing from Young Thick Austin Riley.

Five, four Braves. Would it be enough? A deep drive by Cassiano's, but have faith in Michael Harris. 8-5-3 double play to seal it, the first one of those in MLB playoff history as the Braves were brave to take game 2-5-4 final. Good job, Jake.

Great job. This is the game of the postseason thus far, in my opinion. Like, we have a comeback, a big comeback. We have loud home runs in front of a home crowd. And then you have like a flip-ish play, like Jeter's flip play was in the divisional series. People talk about that forever. This was the same level of that to end the game.

Not to stop a run from scoring, but to end the game. And like an out of play guy, out of position guy, kind of somewhat. But you don't expect him to be there. Like that is awesome. This is like when you watch those replays. I think we found our replay right now that would be to encaps. Like that would you'd put in the time capsule thus far. We're early.

We're only in the divisional series. of like the 20-23 playoffs. I think that that catch double play to end the game is the play I have going in my time capsule of this postseason thus far. Do we go straight to the little play? Do we talk about the rest of the game? I know the double play was it. Let's do some starting pitching first so we don't or pitching in general so we don't get lost

in that. Well, I just think that, you know, this is a tough. Pill to swallow for the Phillies and Phillies fans. You get up for nothing into the fifth inning, into the sixth inning. And you are feeling good. You've been, you know, you got Wheeler on the mound. You got a bullpen that you love, a bunch of high leverage guys ready to go. You have to be feeling absolutely just so confident in this series, feeling like, hey, it's going to happen again.

This is what the Phillies do. This is what we, I mean, we've been saying this too. Phillies, they show up in the postseason. and they showed up early in this game. But like, to be able to answer back the way they did, and I think it starts with the tray air to me. That just kind of like open the door just a little bit,

but the Braves, you know, up for air, if you will. That's what it kind of felt like. You know, the Phillies, and this is a weird thing to think about, but like holding the Braves head underwater. Your roughhouse is in the pool, Jacob. Couple of young lads, rough house in the pool. You know,

one guy's got him under the water. All of a sudden, the Braves get up for air. They get their strength back in, boom, it's one in the six, two in the seven,

two in the eighth, double play to end it in the ninth. It's a snatch job, dude. That's what it is. A freaking snatch. Awesome game to see it. I mean,

I don't know how far we're going to get into specifics here, but we could because it's, like you said, James, I think this was definitely the game of the post. so far. I hate it.

I hated Roughhausen in the pool. I always hate when you bring it up. Your brother must have tortured you. I know Jim tortured Lucas. I like roughhousing. It's dangerous. Having my head held underwater is the worst. Once you guys see my brother, I want to do a couple things we'll

forget before we get to the things we remember. Top one, Maximus Fried, hunting. Bases loaded. Bryson Stott. Last time we saw him with the bases, Chuck. he sent it into West Philadelphia. And it was 3-0. 3-0, Max Fried battles back, strike-looking, gets the ground out.

That's huge. That keeps it at 1-0-0 instead of any other number. Zach Wheeler is going to get partially forgotten in this. I mean, he was nasty. He struck out the first six hitters. Well, one reached via error. So the first six batters he got out come, via strikeout. He ends with 10Ks. And then, yeah, with the Braves hunting for any sign of life,

you get Ronald O'Cunia Jr. with two outs. He draws a walk, which, hey, he was, it was one, two in that bat. And Wheeler kept trying to climb the ladder on him because he swung at a high heater. He's patient. He draws the walk, which, hey, MVP of Cunia, like if we came out of this game and it was, you know, Braves were down to a, where is he? What's he been doing? He takes his walk. Albies gets the hit. And then, yeah, Trey kind of doesn't, Castellanos bounces it in there.

Trey doesn't scoop it. It's got to be on Trey to field that cleanly. And Ronald Cunia, you know, 70 stolen base season on the bags, takes it. And it's the first run and you kind of do the shrug. And then I guess the only thing is we start getting into the big boy stuff because we're just about there. You know, on the Harper double up on that Michael Harris catch Castiano.

hit. Ozzy Albi swipes at it to just knock it down. Not to like catch it and throw to first. He just sees a ball coming into the infield. He whiffs it and that actually allows it to go to Austin Riley who fields it full tilt and fires 100% to first base, which the Coy owns on him to do that. Because that's one of my things when I always talk about infielders throwing home. Sometimes you find yourself in weird position. He's fielding a ball from his center fielder with his momentum going that way and hucks it to Maddie Olson with one of the cooler fist pumps you'll see who Matt Olson doesn't come off as normally that high tea guy when I catch him upstairs in the house sneaking out the window. But he's got that in him too. So it was a beautiful night in Atlanta.

Justin. Austin Riley said he was in that position he was because he was just yelling. selling one, one, one, and trying to get closer to, like, them so they would hear him. Yeah. Which brought him into position to make that play. And Harris said he threw it back to second base because he had no idea where Bryce was. He was just getting it in. So it's a crazy storm. And I also don't really blame Bryce for trying to get a bigger.

It's a little too big and he slips on the way back. But because I think you're scoring if he misses it, even if you're just kind of like there and start going again. but he wanted to score. He's tying run. Just an awesome play. He, there's so many other things I want to talk about, but we are in the meat of it right now. So a couple things. I should be Riley. He's got the whole play in front of him.

Albies and Arcia, they're facing Michael Harris in the outfield, like, you know, ready to get the ball back in. They don't necessarily see Harper because he ran past him. So Riley's got the whole play in front of them. That's why he's yelling 1-1-1. He sees Harper make that base running mistake. And that was great. Yeah, brought him close to the ball.

The way he fielded the ball and the way he had to contort his body, I know you love that word. To get that throw to first base with some zip on it was very impressive. We've been impressed with Young Thick since we asked, is he going to be the starting third base in long term in Atlanta? That was, what, 2020? 2019. And 2019?

We were like, hey, man, like, you have a 720 OPS. Like you got, like, you're going to need to step it up this year. And boy, oh, boy, as you stepped it up, obviously. Harper, though, that's, it's not good base running. It's bad base running. I wish he would have, he kind of owned up to it at the, after the game. You go to second base right there. You get the second base, put your foot on the base if you want,

and just see what happens with the play. There's no reason to go past the base, none whatsoever, especially in that situation, because the outfielders are going to be back. it's like a no double situation. You can't allow the tying run to score. So you're going to be back. You know, so you have to understand where they're position. And then that's just kind of like honestly,

it's base running 101. Yeah. Don't go past the base right there. But I mean, if it does drop, you're at second base. Worst case scenario, you're at third base. Second and third one out. Worst case scenario. You're probably going to score depending on the care of them that the ball takes.

So it's, it wasn't good. If it drops and he scores, we say, Bryce plays with his hair on fire, like, great for running. I agree with it's a bad play, but I just think that's who he is. Like, he saw that go a little higher and farther than he wanted, and he wanted to be fucking score and get home. So it took a perfect relay to get him. That's where I can't get on it too much.

I get it's a bad play. I agree. It wasn't a perfect relay, though. Well, if he would have thrown it to one of the infielders, he would have been out by that perfect freak. like crazy? I know, I can't defend the base running. You can't.

For me, the only part that's tough on it is Michael Harris, too, is a world-class defender. And it looked like he had somewhat of a beat on it the whole time. So don't get me wrong. I get where Harper's... I think the word is risk. Like, I think Harper crunched the risk equation in his head, and he said, hey, the... This is going to be close. If that ball touches the ground, I want to score.

I know there's a chance. I'm going to get doubled up if Michael Harris, too, one of the best defensive centerfielers in baseball does catch it. And he did. And I think everyone kind of had that whoa moment when it cuts back to the infield. And you see Harper's little legs cut across the middle infield. You're like, wait, was that? Was that price?

It's a mistake. It's a mistake. I think what both you guys are saying isn't too far off. But if you do take that risk, which he does. did, you do have to say it's a mistake. And great, great play by Michael Harris, too. It is funny. And that's why I mentioned Albies before. If you watch the replay, he just swipes at it to try to knock it down because he sees the ball going past him that if he just bops it down with his glove, Bryce gets back to first and we never, we never bring that up. And we talk about, wow,

Bryce was being aggressive and oh my God, what a play and all that. Also, if Bryce doesn't slip, his wheels come out from under him getting back to second, which costs him like a step. Step and a half. It's still just not like a pace running. Well, I agree with that. I'm just trying to talk about it. The crowd comes into play there as well. I mean, they're going nuts.

So Michael Harris just throws the ball in the second base, which is kind of what he's supposed to do. Because he's like, well, he doesn't know if Harper's tagging. I don't want Bryce to tag. So he just throws it in the middle of the field, which is fine, because you just expect your infielers to be there, gets past them. And, you know, maybe.

they line up a little bit differently or try something different if they can hear Austin Riley yelling one one one one one but in that moment the place was going nuts it wasn't I mean honestly it's just an incredible play Austin Riley took the game over at the end and I think I hope Michael Harris is getting a bunch of love for it too because you know on the on MLB's website and it's talking about Michael Harris's game ending catch I thought it was going to be more about and Riley and about the Homer and the relay. I'm glad that Michael Harris is getting his flowers too because that was, you know, you make plays, great.

You make plays in those moments, that's the difference. That's why you pay a guy like that early on in his career because you believe he can do it. And he just steps up time and time again for that team, dude. I love it. But for the Phillies, I think it's a couple base running plays. I'm curious to get your guys take on this. We're going to go back all the way to the first inning now. Who hit it? Was it Castellanos? Singles to Rosario.

And they don't send Bome, I believe. Two outs. Now, Rosario was getting talked to, like, he was getting put down by the after the game crew, Jimmy Rawlins, Curtis Granderson, and Pedro Martinez kept saying, it's Rosario. Why didn't she run on Rosario? Do they know Rosario's led the league? and outfield assists like three or four times throughout his career. This guy doesn't have a lollipop arm out there.

But in that situation, I kind of agree. I think you got to just send him. I think you got to go and be aggressive and try to get up two nothing right there. The answer to that is no, they don't know that. And the follow-up to that, because you've told us about Eddie's arm out there. Like Eddie's always had an arm going back to his Minnesota days. But Trev, I told you this the other day. Story Ellie scouting test.

Bomes, legs don't move like you think he would. Like I run into fur. I know it's young guy. He's got the hair and he plays next to Trey and they kind of look like cousins. But Bome's not a speed guy. And that was on a line to Rosario. I was full no send in the moment. I think he would have been meat at the plate.

And then you mentioned that stadium going nuts. Like they throw out Bome to end the first inning. And you just created like a crazy, crazy atmosphere for you. So, no, I'm not on the send. I have it queued out now. And he's, he's. he's at third when Rosario's got the ball in his glove. So I think he gets him if he makes a decent throw.

Because the play, the throw came in and it was accurate, but they were talking about that a lot after the game. They kept dissing Rosario. I was like, guys, he might not have a strong arm as Acuna, but he's led to the league and assists many times. At least twice that I know of. And hey, like I like Bone, but you got to know who you are as a player. Like he was 31st percentile sprint speed.

Like I, you know, I know you don't normally think of like young, like he's a young athletic guy, but he's, I don't think if him was a speedster. He's not a, he's not a runner. So no, I don't, I don't think that was the wrong move. If you want to nitpick, like, it's the Turner Bobble like that. If you want to try and like nitpick the one run, that's the, and the good base running by Ozzie to score on it.

Well, I want to talk about the home run a little bit, Treve. It's a great at bat by Riley. He goes up there versus Hoffman, who he's faced a couple times now, and who's pitched a ton for the Phillies down the stretch. I just look at this game log. Dude hasn't gone like two days without pitching since September 1st. Twice he did three days rest. And Riley swings huge at first pitch slider.

And almost like he's on it. Like that's the pitch he wanted to swing at. Then he takes the fastball, the second pitch, and it looked to me like he was not, he was still sitting. off speed, or just was going to let it go. It was high. Then he switches. He's on the fastball, swings and misses. Huge swing and miss at the fastball. And then two strikes, he buckles down, works the count full. Big thing is they get Ocuna to third. So now Hoffman's not really going to spike the slider in the dirt. He's 2-2. You'd think he goes slider. He goes to the fastball because

he doesn't want another pass ball. It's a tying run on third. And then he has to 3-2. He goes slider puts in the zone. And Riley swings, it's way different than his first swing. It's so reactionary. It's just literally throws the barrel of the bat at the ball with one arm and like a silly follow through. It's a two-strike approach that led to a crazy big homer. Yeah, I mean, Hoffman was getting questioned about the pitch selection there after the game.

And, you know, they were saying that Riley had a bit on fastballs and you're probably should have went back to that. It's all hindsight. That's Hoffman's pitch. I mean, his best pitch is his slider. It's got a positive nine run value on it. And Riley, you got to get credit sometimes, dude. You're right.

He worked a great at bat. And I love the visual of the top hand coming off of the bat because that's Riley just doing anything he can to stay through the ball. A little bit out in front. You're a little bit fooled and you just kind of try to extend that bottom hand, just try to keep it going. And at that point of the swing, you don't even need your top hand. If you've already got your hips through and the barrels on its way through the zone, I mean, it's going.

So the one-handed thing is awesome to see, but it shouldn't necessarily affect, you know, exit Vela or anything at that point. But it's more so him, like I said, doing everything he can to stay through the ball instead of having that top hand on the bat and kind of maybe rolling it over as you get to the end of your swing. So, I mean, just an incredible bat. I mean, a season saving a bat. A season saving last two innings for Austin Riley.

If they lose this game, we know the numbers. It's 90%. They're out. Going back to Philadelphia, good luck. And instead, they got the momentum. Now you got to go face Nola in Philadelphia. But, I mean, the alternative is death. So good job, Austin, right?

I mean, this was a great game. And I think, I hope this goes five games. This is, this is, is this the series of the playoffs? Well, yeah. It's a heavyweight back. Like you hate to do like a lame kind of sports analogies. And, you know, we got our boxing guy, Canobio around. But this is heavyweights.

we talked about. This is stars. These are the past two NL champions. These are stars on this. There's studs all over the, like, there's nobody in the lineup. Like, shout out to my guy Pardomo right now who's like, if he's got a chance to bunt, they're just taking it. Like, nobody like that on the field right now. And I think we also have to talk about, like, Austin Riley, obviously it's a moment that's going to get remembered like in Atlanta for, well, for either a week or for a bunch of years, depending how the rest of their playoff run goes. But, yeah, he releases on that,

and good thing he does, because if he keeps both hands on it, maybe it's off the end of the bat, and you see that ball come down in the swamp monster, Brandon Marsh's glove, and that could be a dagger to Atlanta's magical season. It's not. I think the other thing that really needs to be talked about,

some managerial decisions. One, coming into the game, Travis Darno gets the start. And it's like, okay, Sean Murphy, he's been in a little bit of a funk, Brian Snicker presses that card. Darno had a couple not so great at bats, and he threw the ball away into center field,

which allowed the Phillies to score a run. And you're like, whoa, like, you know, we're doing this managerial who's pressing what buttons. Did he press the wrong button with Darno? Darno takes him up top for the two-run homer to bring them back into the game. That guy, you talk about dudes who flatline, zero emotion from him during the home run. when they had the, they got the last out.

Like you see Matt Olson losing his mind and everyone else. They did the Super Bowl like a final shot around the horn of everyone freaking out. And Darneau's like not even awake. I'll never understand guys like that because I'm clearly the opposite. But also Zach Wheeler, who had been dominant, the NL format has been weird. Off day, game, off day, game off day. The last time we saw Philadelphia's bullpen,

and they looked pretty good, right? Sir Anthony Dominguez. It seemed like he was putting himself back out there. We didn't see Kimbrel in this one because it didn't go to a safe situation. Orion Kirkering, talking baseball favorite. To start that inning before the Darno Homer, it's Olson Ozuna.

Do I have that right? Yeah, it's Olson, Ozuna, Darno, and then it would have been Rosario. They pinch it for Pilar when they bring Alvarado out. But playoff baseball, you could have pulled the plug on Wheeler there. You could have said he got you to the seventh, and you've got Alvarado up in the bullpen, and Olson is coming up.

They let Wheeler ride. Olson gets the single. He strikes out Ozuna, Darno Homer. So, you know, when you're looking back at this at the buttons that got pressed, the darn no button ends up looking obviously incredible. And then I don't know. I don't know how much Philly fans are questioning that because Zach Wheeler did look so good.

but you have the fully fresh bullpen and we've seen teams around the league. You know, that 100-pitch starting pitcher limit and the playoff seems like it turns into 80-85. Leela was right around there. And then also comedy show in the ninth inning, Bryce Harper is about to lead off. Okay, so here comes Ryssel, right?

Well, no, we're going to send Minter out there because he's lefty, and Harper is seven for 10 with four homers off Rysel Iglesias. Sick. You can't. You know, You can't pitch rice.

You can't. I love the Braves just have a guy in the holster like Darno. You know, he's a great hitting catcher and has had many big hits in the postseason. And he's kind of just your backup guy. And really the reason he was in there was because he's been catching Max. So it wasn't like, you know, let's go get you a homer tonight, Bigfellas. Like, hey, you're line up to catch Max. But if you pop one, that'd be great.

and sure as shit he did it. I was interested in them keeping Wheeler in because in the broadcast they made it seem like he had a couple conversations and that Wheeler was going to be out. We saw the bullpen going. All of a sudden it was like a surprise, at least as we were watching the games as fans,

that Wheeler did go back out there. That's, yeah, it's going to be talked about for a lot. And you're right, you know, he hadn't even given up an earned run at that point. So it's, I think everyone in Philadelphia was okay with having your guy on the mound until Darneau hits the freaking Homer Yeah, that was

Yeah, he looked pretty sharp The last two innings, too I think he breezed through the fifth Because then it was like five no hit And then Then the six was also pretty easy I think he pitched around Acuna and that's all Yeah, it's

I don't think there was anything wrong with that situation It was just, you know, Darno got him It's gonna happen Yep Excellent game Excellent series I'm going to switch over to The D-BAC's Dodgers

Peter Moyland in the stands You see that vid Jim? Yeah he was going nuts Relaxed Peter Need to see that A man of the people How many beers did you drink Peter? Man of the people

A lot Shone off for his daughter Showing her the juice he's got in the stands I'd do the same thing He does have juice there That Australian guy in the south weird Kind of walks around like a perked up kangaroo.

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Jakey Byrne. It's Miller time in L.A., which Dodgers fans would hope met Bobby shoved and not that they'd have to console themselves with about 11 light beers if they get snake bitten by Arizona once again. There's all these snakes on these motherfucking bases. Walker Moreno with run scoring outs, but oh, Lord is, trouble so hard.

RBI single, it's three nothing D-backs after one. Bottom four, former snake charmer J.D. Martinez drops his snake on you three one but oh lord is trouble so high solo homer it's four to one could the snakes hold gallon five point one two earn runs gets pulled with the pen hold sal frank thompson ginkle seawald sure did what mental fortitude by the debacks as they win game two fortitude Ooh. That's your dream right there. Snakes win four to two.

She had great fortitude. That is your dream. I got a lot of dreams. That's one of them. One of them. These first inning snakes. They must have the best. It's a combination of things.

They must have the best scouting report team on starting pitchers ever. They're at bats in the first inning. versus Bobby Miller. Then they're at bats versus Brazier were wild. And their ability to barrel up 98, 99, 100 mile per hour fastballs. Now I get it. Miller's got no movement on that. So you get Bradger's got some movement.

And then you get fucking Brewstar, who I don't care if the Dodgers lost. He's still the star of my show. I mean, that dude casually throws 100 miles per hour the same way I throw my sock into the laundry basket. It's insane. but he had so much movement. But anyway, the diamondbacks were incredible.

And when they, you know, Carol works a walk to start it off. Then they bunt for a base hit. And then the next pitch Tommy Fam drops down. Like, yeah, I'll bunt too. What up? God damn it, guys. What are you doing? And when they do connect, they barrel it.

But they're also going to try to run. You know, Carol's up. But Carol was up with two outs that one inning. So, and they got thrown. out stealing, but you're like, whatever, we have the top up, you know, it keeps the top fresh with no outs. So it's a good time to run. So they take like really calculated risks with their pesky aggressive play.

It's really fun to watch. It's almost in my brain, I am saying they're a product of the new baseball and showing, showcasing like the full game, which is awesome. pitching, slugging, base running, grinding out at bats, bunting, stealing. Like in this series, they've showcased everything. Even in this game, four stolen base is two sack buntz. That's kind of hilarious.

Knowing where baseball was and kind of where it's at now, I mean, that's... Two sack buntz? So like, the first was the bun for base hit, so three buntz. Yeah. Here's a thing. I've been on the other side of this many times it doesn't feel good. When you get down, what was it? 6 nothing yesterday in the first game and then 3.

nothing before you even get to pit. It sucks. It's not fun. What are you supposed to, I mean, dude, it puts pressure on your offense. This is, here's like the whole series so far. And I know it's two games, people will bear with me on these numbers. The snakes, first four hitters, 1.6, 816, 970, 850. That's their OPSs. That's their first four-hitter. For the Dodgers,

125, 542, 750, 3993. If your big boys aren't getting it done, and that's what the Dodgers have right now, a very top-heavy lineup. And if they're not coming through, you're not going to win games. That's the bottom line right now. Snakes come out and get you right away, get you early, plenty of time to come back if you're the Dodgers or so you think, but if your top producers aren't producing. And I guess you got to give credit to Zach Gowan for holding them down. But that's it.

Like they haven't hit. The Dodgers haven't hit. And the snakes continue to just put pressure on them, score runs when they need to and add on. And it just, it looks like two different brands of baseball right now and the snake's brand is name brand. How about that one?

Nice. Snake's skin. Now you're just saying that. It's Brick Tamlin at the end there. I just wanted to add on. Corbyn Carroll is currently, I think, the biggest threat in the playoffs. Yeah. He, in his first playoffs, he's getting on base at a 632 clip.

He's got a 1.632 OPS. in every now four playoff games, four road playoff games that the snakes are undefeated in. Corbyn Carroll has gone on base at least twice. The top of that lineup, Cattell Marte, I mean, is a guy who's been doing it for a long time now, switch hitter, so he's always in like an okay matchup. He feels like a threat. He's almost, it feels like he's playing with a little bit like, oh, you guys are interested in Corbin Carroll?

I had some fucking big years in the desert and you guys weren't tuning in. And then Tommy Fam. Is that what he says? The biggest, like, MFer in the best way in baseball. Like Tommy Fam, he could be playing one on nine versus the Dodgers and he'd go out there and do it because he doesn't care. When he ran up his hands to bunt, it was like, wow,

these snakes are going to mess with you in every aspect of the game. Snakes take the big lead. Bobby Miller, rookie in the playoffs. Like, it's tough, man. He finishes with 1.2. They obviously go to their pen. It's not do or die, but as close as you can get to it without being do or die. And going back to the last game, Zach Allen's at 84 pitches.

He's Zach Allen. Like, he's the dude you knew on the snakes coming into the past couple seasons. Which, by the way, A, a treat to watch. I mean, the pitch mix, the location, like with all these guys that are now pumping hondo and I get it like if you get a hondo with movement and you put it anywhere in the zone that's harder to hit sometimes than 93 on a corner when you can pitch like zach gallon he was dotting like he was the corners of that little tv strike zone box was beautiful but tori levello i just you know i mentioned philadelphia topper they keep wheeler out there

um tory levello goes to the rookie Andrew south frank yeah Hello, with I think 10 innings pitched in this regular season. He puts it in for the Dodgers' lefty platoon part of their lineup. So Dave Roberts has to make a decision. Am I going to go for this? Yes, I am because we're the Dodgers and we play the matchup. So in that sixth inning, they bring out all their righties. Sal Frank gets it done kind of, slash he passes the baton to Thompson,

who has looked fantastic. And just a little note, because I think we need to talk about that a little more. Hazen, the DeBax GM, who just got extended through 2028. Quiet deadline, right? Like nothing crazy. We wondered, you know, would they be a Gialito team or who could they go out and get? They got Tommy Fam, who is their third hitter in this game in a couple playoff games, and they got their closer.

Paul Seawald, who came out and dropped it on them confidently. So, you know, as you look back at what can you do with the deadline? I don't know, middle of the lineup bat in your closer. That ain't bad. I mean, that's great points, Jake. I think it came down to 6, 7, 8 for the Dodgers. They had chances there. You mentioned the inning where Sal Frank comes in.

They load the bases up there. And then Kike gets like the infield hit, gets it to 4-2. Outman's up there against Sal Frank and just puts up a non-competitive of bat. Say it. And that guy strikes out a lot. And that's part of what you have to give if you're going to get, you know, he plays good center field. He's got some pop.

But in that situation, the swings were bad. It was just a bad at bat. It wasn't, you know you're going to get sliders there from the lefty. And he was just pulling off like he wanted to hit a grand slam to right field. And that's like, you can't have that approach at that situation. You got to get that run in. Whatever it takes, you've got to get the run. get it to a one-run game.

Things change drastically. And he has a bat-a-bat, and then that freaking ogre comes in. And Colton Wong's in there, and Colton Wong is not hit this year. It's been bad. And at the end of the game, I knew it when Colton Wong grounds out that, that, that bat, threat over. I knew at the end of the game, they were going to have those guys come up again. And that's not exactly what you want. or you expect as a Dodgers fan.

That bench has kind of been there for the Dodgers. It showed late in the game. The next two innings, seven and eight, double plays. Freddie Freeman hits into one. Forget who else hits into the other one.

But the Diamondbacks middle infield looked. Pridomo and Marte, pretty stuff they were working with. So Dodgers had some chances, but again, top of the order didn't show up. Benches a little thin right now. Very thin.

doesn't look good. Very thin and you're and you're platooning them so that you're getting then pinch hit at bats and then you're getting a guy that's like not in the game. Like at some point they got to do the math on, okay, this guy is his third time in third at bat of the game, but it's the same-handed pitcher as him. But what outweighs what? Like Colton Wong off the bench versus just because it's the opposite hand

versus a guy who's at least like, you know, been in the rhythm of the game. I don't know. I just feel like we're some of the teams are still too loose with just like, well, platoon, here we go. I don't know. I don't know. Colong's been bad all year. Hope he gets better next year and has some fun, but like, did he get two at bats? Yeah. So that's

Yeah, he did. Like that's where Tori Lavello like one, Gowan did the adrenaline dump after striking out Freddie. Uh, he screamed his whole ass off the mound. He tried to calm down by the time he reached the white line and keep it in check. That's something I've been way more tuned in since Moylan told me about it. That like, and then Smoltsy said it on the broadcast for the game the other day. Maybe it's Smoltz. I don't know. Basically, so it's a fun thing to watch for.

If a pitcher streams his ass off the mound to the dugout, especially reliever, they say you got to take him out. That's what Moyland said. And that's what Smoltsy said. Like they just dumped all his adrenaline. It's hard to work back up. And when starters just beeline it and like stay cool, calm, it's because they're trying their best to keep all that in check and gallon you can see him he yells he screams you can see him kind of like get back in there comes out the next inning no idea if it's really that or this or that but um then the vello makes it make the switch so either good for both reasons one get gallon out of there he did his job take the bullpen they're all going to be get first looks anyway and force him to use

the bench dodgers can't be treating this bench the same way they've had treated benches in the past totally agree and if you look at their trade deadline they didn't get a metal of the order bat or I mean they got Joe Kelly who he looks filthy he was doing some skit pitching on my guy Longo last night Longo is not stoked on that at bat whatsoever 99 down the middle he's like whatever bro

fucking sure so you get Joe Kelly and Lance Lynn had some bad starts had some good starts I think he is he going to get the start in game three supposed to Kike Kike and Med Rosario Ryan Yarbrose not even on the roster

like Wong and Wong I like I like the addition of Kike to your bench. I think he brings a lot of versatility. I'm good with that, but you expect a little bit more from the Dodgers, and they just didn't, they didn't do it. And here comes the part of the season

where you need those reinforcements that you could have got at the trade deadline, and you didn't get them. I was shocked. I was typing out mid-tweet, and I was like, damn, like he's going to sell, Frank, for that Dodgers, like pure lefty lane.

It's where we talked about this when we were, I don't know, late night wonky crew talking about critiques for the potential Dodgers and maybe why they don't have more titles. You know, coming into that game, Zach Gallen's out there. So they put in their lefties. They put in Jason Hayward, who had an awesome year for there. Peralta. And then it's James Outman who stays via lefties.

He's played all year this year. They put out the rookie, Sal Frank, six inning. You pull Zach Frank. You pull Zach Gallant. Who is the basketball player whose nickname is both his grandpa's nicknames combined? That's what Sal Frank sounds like to me. Oh, Iverson. Babichuk.

Sal Frank. A little AI for you. Didn't know that. I didn't know that. You didn't know that. You didn't know AI. Nicknamed this whole life was Bubba Chuck. Didn't know you knew who Alan Iverson was.

What? I'm alive. That makes sense, actually. You are alive. I thought you were a Yankee guy. bro. Chris Taylor, who I think it's been a little bit of a funky year for him, but he's, you know, they bring him in. He takes some daddy cuts. Kike, who's back with him. And yeah, I was surprised. I thought Roberts wasn't going to press the button there, because I thought he'd say,

hey, this part of the lineup is going to come up probably for the end of the game that, you know, I'm going to lose that matchup. Like when Chris Taylor and Kiki stay out there, they're going to face Gink Job or Seawald or Thompson. But he did, and that's where these playoff baseball games that are high and tight, if Dave Roberts press the button and Chris Taylor and Kike put balls in the gap and the Dodgers come back and save their season, we'd be like, hey, and how about Dave Roberts pressing the button and it saves the Dodgers season? No, instead it's, okay, so Dodgers for the last three innings have no bench.

You need a pinch runner? No, you're out. You need a pinch hitter? No, you're out. I don't know. Kind of crazy that, I mean, our guy, Tori Lavello. And he's got, he's, his stoic manager, top step pose has gotten really good. Like, it's gotten that little bit natural, like, sad anger in the face,

even though, like, the snakes are dominating the series. I liked him complimenting, uh, Roberts mid-interview, because he's like, Smart move by Dave, bringing Bruce Star, stop the momentum. I like it. It's like, all right. He's a dude. It's a nice guy. And that was a smart move by Dave Roberts,

but ultimately your starting pitcher needs to get you innings if you want to win the series. So if they did come back to win it, and the bats came alive, you'd say, good move to use Brewster and then just like stop the mess. But, like, you know, it's a, and it's putting out of fire with a dry rag. A couple points here.

I want to clean up. There is no actual button that the manager presses. I feel like you keep saying that. Don't misleaf the people. Okay. So he goes. I'm sorry. I didn't make it to the show, Triv.

That's on me. Well, just letting you know. Thank you. There's no button. There's the catchers press buttons. Me and Marshall are going to fuck your shit off. They do press. Marshall has my back no matter what.

Not in the pool. Whole different world. I thought I had something else to say about. Tori and the snakes, but now I'm kind of forgetting. Can I throw something out there? They're doing it, man. They're going to win this series.

Oh, now we're talking. I think a couple other things do need to be mentioned. For all we're talking about, Dave Roberts and the button or not button pressing. Carol, Marte, and Fam all have slugging over 500 in the playoffs, the top three in their lineup. Bet's Freeman and Will Smith.

Their numbers are not where they'd like to be. Obviously, it's two games for them. But Trev, Freddie Freeman, you know, we're talking about James Outman, the rookie in a big spot left on left. He gets beat after getting into a 3-1 count. Sure. Freddie Freeman watching that 3-2 curveball from Galin, I mean, hey, that's a great pitch from a great pitcher,

but this is the playoffs. That's Freddie Freeman, man. that to see him go down looking, I think that that sent to jolt through everyone. Like, whoa. Like the snakes are really doing this. That was great pitching. I just finished editing a video on it.

And great pitch calling. And Gowlands tunneling is unbelievable. I mean, I don't just totally called Freeman's bluff. Like that is ballsy pitching. Yeah, bat went forcing a fastball up top because he needs to establish that. and he works everything off that. Then he went change up off of it.

Then he went, okay, here's a fastball. It's a cutter. Freddy swings at it and kind of shakes his head like, fuck. Fowls it back. That's the pitch to hit. Then he goes, curve ball below the zone. Curb ball below the zone.

And Freddie kind of, he's just in protect, like, swing mode a little bit. So he kind of like jostles with the pitch, but he recognizes it enough. Actually, he struck out the first one. The umpire said no swing. It's for my Debex fans. I showed the side angle.

I could have been wrung up there. And then three, two, Freddie's thinking, throw me that fastball that I saw first pitch. You got to throw a strike here. And he goes high fastball, or high curveball, three curves in a row. And this one he goes, no, I'm going to go ride that high plane from that very first four seam you saw. It's crazy, the overlay. No, he's, yeah, he's, he is a pitcher with stuff.

And he's smart. And he sequences, like you just said, he's a ton of fun to watch. Who was the first on him? Was it you, James? Or was that you because you're the snakes guy, Jake? I don't know about first on. Well, he, I think he... He was my guy because before he was a stud, I loved his...

He was my five-inch pitch, tour and runs, six-in-stitch, tour and runs. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Every, he never, like, he never lost you a game. He had the quality start streak, yeah. So that, we brought that to the national stage, because we're the number one baseball show in the world. Number one, snakes team. in the world.

I got something for Dodgers fans here. This is not Dodger Blue, by the way. This is not Dodger Blue. It looks a lot like Dodger Blue. It's a St. Paul Saints. It looks like similar blue. Last thing. A little bit of silver lining for Dodgers fans.

And this is me. This is complete conjecture right here. That's fine. Bobby Miller, rookie, has a really good first year in the big leagues. this starts going to sting for him. Confident guy goes out there, does not do his job in the playoffs. I think this is going to spark his offseason.

That's kind of all I have. You come off a rookie season where everything kind of goes right for you and maybe you play it safe in the off season. You kind of take a vacay and you, and you, you know, take the gym kind of seriously and you do your, you know, you're not really trying to fix anything

because it went so well. he's going to go into the offseason and want to be better. And I think that's going to ultimately be good for his career, understanding that like, hey, man, like I got to continue to work even at the big league level. Because that was a rough start for him. And they were kind of depending on him, which isn't that fair. We talked about having to depend on a rookie guy to save your season. It didn't work out.

I guarantee we're going to hear stories in spring training. Oh, Bobby Miller looks great. Nice. Got to work on a two seam or cutter. Something. Yeah. That's something. He's going to go into the lab and say, I got to be better.

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eligibility and deposit restrictions apply. Hey, I don't take pleasure in doing this because we were doing it on the live streams and it's something I compliment to Dodger fans on during the season. I mentioned Freddie, who he gets beat in that gallon at bat. Mookie with an O for four, and I think three of the four at bats were two pitches or less. So I don't know. When you think of Mookie bets, playoffs, that's not normally what you think of.

And those are their guys. Those are the billboard. Those are everything. I mean, if the Dodgers want to have any chance in this series, I mean, those guys have to go. You have to have massive games from Mookie and Freddie. And, you know, it hasn't happened. And there's been a lot of talk around LA, a lot of my friends. I'm on a group chat talking about, yeah, just what you said. Those at bats. Yeah. Well, I'm on the live stream, and I'm saying like, oh, man, like, get ready for this.

Like, Mookie and Freddie this time through the lineup, like, you're going to see a pro at bat. And then it's like, oh, oh. Hey, you know you do? Arizona pitching. Hit that cap. All righty. We'll see you tomorrow. for tonight.

We're live streaming tonight. If you're around, we'll see if the Baltimore Orioles season ends, Rangers, Orioles, Kramer versus Ivaldi. And this afternoon, Trevor Ploofs, Minnesota Twins,

Sunny Gray and Javier. I am so excited for this matchup. It's a 1 o'clock PST star for me, so I'm going to be like sitting. I might put some stuff on the grill, watch it. I don't know what I'm going to do, but I will be tuned in.

And then, yes, tonight, I think we're going to record. Yeah. Tonight. Late night sesh. And then we'll record. Let's go, Twins. Is the place going to be rocking, Trev? I love their talk about Minnesota as a raucous atmosphere now.

The best in the postseason. Yes, it'll be rocking.