Talkin' Baseball (MLB Podcast) - Bregman's 3-Run Bomb Gives Houston 2-0 Lead Over Yankees | 563

Episode Date: October 21, 2022

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Hello and welcome to talking baseball. One game to talk about Astros beat the Yankees again. Let's talk about it. Oh, no. Hello and welcome to talking baseball presented to you by Seat Geek code Johnboy playoffs. 10% off. Download the app, you Seat Geek. Also, they've been presenting all our stream, streaming tonight with Cole Tucker.

and Paxton L. Rod. Co-Tuck in town, he's bringing the good vibes. And boy, Demai and BD and Joms, Yankees need it, Trev. It's been a tough couple games for the Yanks offense in particular. But yeah, look, you need the good vibes. Day off today, you're going to do you well, I think. I think. We talked about what do you got to do?

Is it curb ball BP? Is it naked BP, which might be the key? Or do we have the home run hitting coach, but pep talk before you need? Maybe that's what we need because we haven't seen any statue of liberties. No. Or fishing poles. No.

We've seen a lot of strikeouts. And that's been the name of this series so far for the Yankees. 13 more Ks last night. A lot of swings and misses. and if you're the Yankees, that's the one thing that you have to fix, dude. You just can't swing and miss that much is the bottom line.

Down 02, not a place to be. Yeah, the big bad wolf do it again. Let's, I'll burn it quick. You got to burn? Yeah, I mean, it's not a pretty one because it's just so sad. Just so sad. I like sad burns. Go stroze, baby. Go stroze. Game two in Houston, and there's a Framber alert out for the Yankees offense.

As Valdez takes the bump for the Stroes versus, have you ever seen a Sevee with the butterfly nose? Sevy with the butterfly dough. A-Stun is a habit. Luis Severino on the bump for the New York Yankees. We're scoreless into the third. He tries to come in, but Alex Bregman, the daddy, gets his hands. through and gets it to the Croffer box.

It is three nothing Astros. The Yankees, they punch back in the top of the fourth. Well, Framber lets him back in. He does some antics on the mound and the boys get him home. It's three to two. The Yankees get two gift runs. Will they take advantage, Judge? It's not gone, Treb.

We'll talk about that. Astros. Framber Valdez, Brian Abraeu, and Ryan Presley. zero earned runs. Houston wins three to two and they are up two games to nothing. That's the best burn I've ever heard you burn right there.

That's the emotion you like with those? Yeah, I like when you're sad. Makes me feel good. Is that weird? What does I say about me as a person? A little bit, man. It's a little fucked. Just a little messed up.

No, you know what? I want this to be a series though. That's the thing. And we know the statistics behind it. Yankees had to squeak out one there in Houston. Right now, they're fighting an uphill battle. 84% of the teams that go up 2-0 go on to win the series. There's hope in Yankee land, I guess,

because you got your guy going for you in the next game in game three. But these first two games have just been an exploitation of a big problem in the offense. I mean, I keep harping on it, but it's the truth. You just can't strike out that many times. The roof thing, I know a lot of Yankee fans are kind of pointing at that. You have the Bregman ball that's at 91 miles an hour. It doesn't matter. Launch angle was right.

The elements were right. He understands that the ball was going to go that way. And you could see that people's pants whipping around. There was some wind there, probably swirling. I played with the roof open there. I played with the roof closed. It's definitely more of a hitter's environment when the roof is closed. It's a strange feeling there because they rarely do have the roof.

roof open, at least in my experience. I remember facing Dallas Kikell there with the roof open, and it was just, it was different. The ball didn't fly as well. But, you know, both teams are playing with the same elements. I know Judge hits that one to the track there. I saw Boone give the clap, top step, thinking, hey, we're about to go up in this game. Let's go get one. And then Kyle Tucker, got it right there, man. And Judge did hit another ball to center field pretty well. So, I mean, that's another thing the Yankees can take away from this. Hey, Judge, a couple nice, hard contact there.

But it's going to take a, it's going to take a miracle, man, for the Yankees to get back in this thing. Because Altuva and Yordon Alvarez haven't even got a hit in this series, and they're up to the games to none. And that's pretty scary. Yeah, that is the scary part. I mean, a little bit of kudos to the Yankees. I mean, Yordon Alvarez coming into the series was the scariest dude in the world,

literally just ending games. Altovae, man, what a little funk he's in right now. The longest to start a playoffs ever. It's so crazy because you just know, like, I think Yankee fans are living in fear of it. I think Astro fans aren't even that worried. Like, he's going to come out. Like, I've seen it too many times.

for the Yankees it's tough Trev because I don't want to give you loser talk but all the Yankees kind of have right now is loser talk you know you went into Houston Houston was rested you know hey maybe you should have handled your business versus the guardians better you know you can point to scheduling and stuff like that but that's that's your problem and they went into Houston and Houston won 106 games and they have like incredible pitching up and down. Like that bullpen was is incredible and and their starting pitching gives them an effort. But I don't know if Framber was in their head. I don't know if it's something with the curveball man because a couple of their at bats were

just and Framber Valdez is really good. He broke the record for quality starts, consecutive quality starts this year. Like he was automatic. That being said, for playoff at bats, I mean, some of these yanks, Trevor, is just not where you need to be this time of year to want to win a game in Houston. Like, no. It's a tough pitch, you know, because he can add and subtract to it, kind of start it in the zone, start it out of the zone and do a bunch of different things to it, especially when he gets the feel for. it. You hear pitchers talk about that all the time. Like, you know, how's my finger pressure? What's it feel like coming, you know, off of my hand? And he mentioned early in the game, he just didn't

really have a feel for it. And a couple different times in his postgame interview, he mentioned working with like a sports therapist or a sports psychologist. I'm probably messing that word out. But he talked about how that's helped him so much this year be consistent. You just talked about the streak that he had with quality starts. And he mentioned after he zooed that ball, misplated and then threw it into right field. He said, you know, before in my career,

I might have let that bother me and I might have just, you know, unraveled, if you will. But he was able to do his job. I mean, he keeps the ball in the infield. Rizzo hits the, you know, the ground ball at first to move the runners over, great a bat by him. But then he, you know, Glaver Torres with an infield single. Then he limits the damage.

And it's funny because I saw a tweet today talking about the runs the runs of the assholes have won these games by it's like it's like one run one run two runs one run you know like it's very the the difference is very small but to me when i'm watching these games it never really feels like the other team has a chance except for like that game that yordaun walked him off obviously that was that was crazy but they just don't make like mistakes i don't know man like they just play like such a good brand of baseball that you just kind of trust them. And I don't know if that's us seeing them every year in the ALCS, understanding what kind of experience these dudes have in these situations that makes you trust them. But when you watch the Astros play these baseball games, they seem like they're in control.

At all points. And I know it's a lot of it has to do with the Yankee striking out a bunch, but you know, you have to tip your cap to their pitchers too for being able to do that, understanding the game plan, what we got to do. But yeah, this is a daunting task ahead for the Yankees, no doubt about it. Alex Bregman, every year of his career, has gone to the ALCS. Stuff like that ends up matter. Framberville.

Framber Valdez is out there pitching with hair extensions in because he doesn't give fuck. Like, are you kidding? Those are not real? Yeah, sir. I thought they were real too. And I was like, that's the craziest haircut I've ever seen. And everyone's like, those are not real hair. that's extension.

Now we know what you're going to be doing in the off season for us. And think about, you know, it, imagine, imagine Trev, if there was a Yankees pitcher that lost a playoff game on a two run error and he had extensions flying out the bag of his hat. It's like sports talk porn. And speaking of, there's a little more loser talk coming up and it's brought to you by Manscaped. Trev, you got to take care of your downstairs. I just did. You did.

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You've been there, done that. I always forget how good it makes me feel when I doll myself up, if you will. Yeah. Afterwards on my, dang, there you are. There you are, stud, okay. So go get that feeling.

Let me give you a little bit of the loser talk because it is part of the story, Trev, because everything you said was right. Houston has been in the driver's seat. I mean, you know, the Yankees, game one, it never fully seemed like a threat. It was very much the phrase, and I've been saying this phrase around the office. I think the Yankees need to steal a game in the series if they want to win. And it felt like both of these games they would have had to steal. It didn't feel like the Yankees really put themselves in an opportunity. to really win the game or force the at-bats or beat a reliever or whatever it was. That being said, you know, the Bregman ball, I've got no problem with that.

I mean, we're playing at the, you know, the Crawford boxes. Like that's, you know, the signature of the stadium and those guys know it. You guys have the, like, Yankees have a similar thing. Oh, we do this with the short porch. And, you know, if one ball finds a porch for either team and vice versa, that can change a game. like Yankee fans know that better than anyone. I will say the ball that judge hit, if you want to get into exit Velo and launch angle,

Devin Fink, D-E-V-A-N-F-N-F-N-K, I just spell out the whole thing. He had the stats on it, and it's, you know, the balls that were hit like that throughout the season, I think the average distance was 414. I think the shortest ball this season, this season hit like that was Swole Calhoun. And Judge's ball was 20 feet shorter than that. So the wind was truly whipping. And it is what it is because that's where they played. But that one

does sting if you're a Yankees fan. And Trev, the other thing is that's the judge like signature home run. Like you know how you can picture a lot of guys. And when Judge turns one and Luca Ponsatanzi is coaching him up. But, for Yankees fans, like that's kind of the one that makes Judge different, right? The right field, short porch, like he just, that ball jumps off his bat. They shouldn't have won that game. Framber gave him two runs and they didn't score anything offensively. But for what's been a house of horrors for Yankees fans and anyone trying to beat those guys,

that's just another thing you put in your pocket and you're like, man, that hurts. It hurt. I don't want to like twist the knife You can twist it now But I want you to think about something Because we're talking about Houston's Like steadiness And their ability to just kind of march forward

They don't really have any freaking distractions Or lineup decisions Think about what the New York Yankees are doing In an AL championship series They're like shuffling around their infield They're handing over the keys to shortstop to a young dude who like has barely any big league experience

and they're doing that in an ACE series. The guy didn't even make the roster in the DS. Like we're making these decisions. We're the New York Yankees. We're moving guys all over the place. We're playing guys out of position. Talking about Cabrera and left field. The guy's an infielder. It's the bottom line. Like these are not the times to be doing this dude. Like I know Yankee fans been calling for them.

They don't want ICF at shortstop. I disagree, whatever. It's not a big deal. This is not the time to be shuffling your roster around and moving guys around. And Parazza looked pretty good out there. I like his actions. He made some shitty throws that people would have killed ICF for. Rizzle picks him up.

But I like him out. There's actions are good. I'm not saying he shouldn't be there. He looks the part. But this guy should have been getting run all September. He should have been there. in the ALDS, planted at shortstop.

Like if this is your guy that you're going to trust in the, I mean, that game too is probably the biggest game of the year for the Yankees. And you're going to trust it. You're going to trust him there.

You probably should have trusted them in the ALDS. You should have been playing every single day at shortstop in September. Like these are things that like, I just don't understand for the Yankees. We talk about all the time.

Yeah, man. Three shortstop for the Astros. they let him play shortstop this year and let him settle in and now this guy is like been one of if not the best player on the Astros in the postseason so like that is blowing my mind

a little bit when I think about it about how we're scrambling and like it seems a little bit desperate in the AL championship series against the biggest foe you can find It doesn't feel like the Yankees, right? It feels like the raise.

It feels like the raise is calling up, you know, a Shane McClanahan or someone to, hey, postseason's here. Let's run. You're our best guy. I know you didn't play during the regular season, but, you know, here you are. I think the Yankees believe in a little bit of a sneak attack. And I think they thought this Oswald option was going to be there. And maybe they could surprise Houston with it. No, man.

It's surprise them on what? I don't know. Stellar infield defense. Because the like, like I don't know. Yeah, shows don't care. Exactly. The Yankees play at short stuff.

Exactly. And the Yankees think they do. But no, man, I, you know, I've talked about a lot and me and Jimmy and BBD on talking yanks have deep dive throughout the year. But yeah, it's, it's a weird mix of feeling right and feeling a little sad. Like why did we do this? You know, I there's a lot of voices, you know, we are very close to the Yankees. There's a lot of voices.

They get votes. And I think, I think things have been split for a while now. And, you know, if you're having a group make decisions and now that group has been divided on a lot of things for two, three years, I think that leads to things like this. and, you know, don't get me wrong. I'm kind of a democracy guy. Like, let's, I love putting things to a vote. So you're kind of a democracy guy.

Yeah. Like if, like if you, me and BBD, we're getting dinner, I'd be like, hey, what do you boys want? Like, I'm not a, we're getting text mex and you're going to like it. But when you're running a baseball organization. No one likes Texbacks. If you're running a baseball organization, like talking about team identity and the guardians,

and that stuff starts to matter. And the Yankees, guess what? They can't quantify that. So they don't try to and they think they can do things like this that, yeah, man, they should have been playing this kid since at least early August. The Yankees had an August collapse that was a disaster. They called up Cabrera.

He's been playing. And now Paraz is out there. And, yeah, I mean, the bottom of that, lineup that you know the astros are laughing the asters are saying you know what these kids didn't see in triple a framber valdez it's a great point about the bottom of that lineup of the astros are looking at it and you see the goshioka no offense i mean it's a catcher not an offensive minded catcher not many are and then you have two rookies who're coming into the lion's den they're licking their chops, man. And what they do last night?

0 for six, 0 for nine, those guys with five punchies. I mean, Framber basically starts playing how quickly can I get these guys out? Not even will I get these guys out? And these guys are good players. I don't want anyone to think that we're saying they're not good players. So, Gashioca's had some good run in the big leagues. He's, he's had some moments offensively. Paraza and Cabrera, I think will be around for a long time. I've watched both these guys. They have, they have what it takes to be in the big leagues. There's no doubt about it.

But how many times do we say it takes time to get acclimated and feel right and become yourself in the big leagues? It just takes time. Rookie year doesn't happen for a lot of people. I mean, there's a few guys that'll break that mold every once in a while. But dude, I mean, it's just a difficult situation for them to be in. I know they love being in it and it's going to serve them well later on in their careers. They're getting this experience. I think it's great.

But that's not what this is about right now. This is about the Yankees trying to win a championship. And the way they won about handling these dudes. And again, like I'm going to say, if you could trust them in the ALCS. Why couldn't you trust them like you said in August? Just a reminder. I feel like we got to get off the sad Yankee vibe here.

You got to give a lot of credit to Houston and what they've been able to do. I mean, you go JV with a stellar start, Framber with a stellar start. They've had easy bullpen transitions, like they haven't had to really think about it. Presley's looked really good. And timely hitting, three-run bomb. I mean, as soon as Bregman hit that, I know you were feeling like shit. This game is going to be tough. Yeah, you know, we're pretty good at simplifying things.

Trev, I love what you just threw in there. Dusty Baker hasn't had to make a decision. We're going to play Houston Astros baseball. whoop on you. And they have. And, you know, everyone's been trying to break these playoffs down more simply into the homer. And sometimes it works.

Alex Bregman hit a three run dong into the Crawford boxes. The Yankees didn't score an offensive run. So when that happens, you don't have too much merit to stand on. And kudos to the Astros. And I think spinning it to the upcoming game. And if, you know, I can spin this positive in both ways. The Astros dominated and won. In a way, they were kind of supposed to.

They're the better team. They're at home. It goes back to the stadium and the Yankees have their bad man waiting for them. Garrett Cole. I hope he can hit and play short. But Trev, the next game, game three is brought to you by Draft Kings. NBA is back. We just submitted our JM football picks as we compete for some Super Bowl tickets.

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Game three, we're heading to the Bronx, Trev. We're finger-crossed on multiple levels. You do have Garrett Cole, but the pitching, like we said, hasn't been the Yankees issue that on the other side is your boy, your Moxie King, Lance McCullors, Jr. That's what pitch is a lot. Yeah. Yeah.

So that's... That's where it's scary, man. It's where it's scary. I have this vision of Lance McCuller, and there's this well, like a water well, just kind of out in an open field. And one day he's strolling on by,

I don't know what he's doing out in that field, but he's just out there, you know, clearing his head, and he sees this well. And he'll check this well out. And then he gets there and it's a glowing red a little bit. Looks down in there.

He's like, is that baseball? Is that fire? And he reaches his hand down there. And all of a sudden his hand extends. He's like, Gumbeed goes all the way down and keeps going, going, going. All of a sudden he picks up a ball. And that's where he got his curb ball from hell from that wishing well. More weed turtle.

Yeah, I don't, I don't know what any of that was about. I'm happy. you're going to the Bronx you're going to have the crowd the short porch and Garrett Cole I mean this is his now second season on the line start

because if you go down 3 O to these guys it's over like you said what's the percentages 81% if you go down 2O if you go up 2O at home 81% of the time I think overall the people that have gone 2 up have won 84% of the time

which I don't, numbers, you know. Yeah, not my bag. You got to win. I mean, you have to win game three. And outside of that, potentially game four, if you want any shot to be a part of this series. But if you're a Yankee fan, you really can't even let your mind run yet. Like, I think Saturday is going to be one of those weird vibes at the stadium. I know we're debating going.

that it's, if Houston goes and you get another Breggie bomber, your Don, who gets a hit in his last at bat, if he finds, guess that short porch might work for him too. You know, there's going to be a vibe in the stadium that's almost like five years of frustration. So Garrett Cole, he's got to be special. And the big boys in the lineup, you know, we can harp on the rooks at the end. Wait, way, way, way, way, way, way.

What? When I said the keys to the, the keys to victory in this series were John Carlos Stanton and Aaron Judge, you mocked me. What? You mocked me. Yeah. And now look at you. You're about to say the key to the key.

Well, Trevor. I was, I was mocking you because it's the truth and it's obvious. I mean, they get, Stanton, Judge Rizzo. They got to go. They got to go. Well, because, you know, the lineup for the Yankees, as we pointed out earlier, I mean, it's not exactly long, and there's not a ton of experience at the bottom of it. So, yeah, I mean, you've got to add your guys, dude.

And, you know, Bader's been putting up good at bads. He looks good on the Yankees, dude. What's his contract situation? He's there next year. He's there next year? He's there next year? Free agency, yeah. I think he's going to fit in really well with that team.

He looks like he. really enjoys playing. And, you know, he comes from a good organization over to the Yankees. I think that's going to be great. I like him in a leadoff spot. Like even him taking that base on judges, you know, almost Homer, taking second base, like tagging up there. That's a hell of a fucking play, dude.

Like, not many people do that. Like, your first instinct there is to get off halfway, you know, even a little bit more than that. So if that ball does drop, you're hustling. But you read it correctly. And I think that was a massive play. I didn't end up mattering, but yeah. You get a bloop single there, and it's the biggest play of the game.

This game was three, too, and it didn't feel like that. No, man, because the Yankees' offense didn't do anything. And, you know, I wanted to give a little more respect to the Yankees pitching, because outside of one pitch by Louis Severino, which, by the way, it was a bad pitch. They were getting the outside corner ball, two balls off, and they tried to go in on Bregman, who gets his hands through, like us, and the proffer box is right there. That was the only run-scoring play this game that was, like, offense-driven. And that's playoff baseball.

And Houston is so, so good in playoff baseball because they have a ton of experience over the past six years now. Like, so I don't know. It's dark time for the yanks. Jack Eric Cole on the mound, win a game however you have to. One nothing. If the bats break out, good. And then you have Nestor waiting the next day. So Houston held serve and they were supposed to hold serve.

If the Yankees had stolen last night's game, if Judge's ball went another 15 feet, Clay Holmes comes in for the save, we would be peacocking because we would say, we got Cole, we got Nestor, you know, we're about to go up 3-1, just can't say anything. because there's a really good chance you're down three games, nothing. And my God, that crowd in the Bronx, if Houston gets a chance to sweep their ass, holy smokes. You thought the Bronx was burning after that win in some of those clips? Sheesh, don't bring your car.

So, I don't know. It's scary times, man. Yeah, for Yankee fans, it's tough because you had the start to the season. and it was immaculate. Then you had the lull, and then you kind of picked it back up before the playoffs, and then you had a tough guardian series, and now you're facing the big bad wolf in the AL, the Astros.

I mean, the daunting task ahead. You knew it was going to be facing these guys. It wasn't going to be easy, especially the way with the pitching lined up. But yeah, you got to go. The big guy set a step up. That's the bottom line. Garrett Cole.

Go be Garrett Cole. Judge, like, let's go. Let's hit that same ball at Yankee State. stadium. And Stanton is a wildcard, I think. Like, you kind of never know. Like he can absolutely carry you, dude. So we'll see, man. I wouldn't go to the stadium if that was you guys. And by, like you said before, Altuvae and Yordan waiting to go. So kudos to the Astros. You're right. I thought he didn't get a hit yet. Yeah, he is not a bloop, but he bleeped one off Wandi. Yeah, yeah, that's usually what it takes.

So, no, if the Yankees get one, I mean, that game four can become real. And everyone keeps referencing it. So we'll mention it here, 2017. Houston held serve at home. The Yankees won the next three at home. Houston went on to win. We know a little bit of funny business. But, you know, it's why home field is supposed to be important.

It's why we care about the regular season. And Houston won 106. Yankees were on pace for that, but they had one of the worst. months of August and then didn't start making moves. And hey, I won't go in a full loser talk, but you mentioned a couple of the rookies like, Andrew Ben Tendi is, you know, was supposed to be a big piece for this team. DJ LaMahue is their normal leadoff guy. And he's currently not around.

So, hey, that's loser talk. Houston's coming to the stadium. You got to win a baseball game. And then we'll talk about winning another baseball game. Meanwhile, Houston, they're just whistling through the streets. I'm going to text my boy Braggie today and say, hey, man, we're going to keep those hands inside there. You're really showing the youth what a nice baseball swing looks like,

choking up a little bit, barrel to the ball, maybe a little bit down on the label there, but it's all right, man. Like, we might get like a video of McCullors just like grabbing a chop cheese in the Bronx and walking into the stadium, just like middle finger walking in there with like one of the, one of the Yankees wives, like, good look. No, I'm, that's, that was too far. That was too far. But he's, he, dude, he, he is going to love Yankee Stadium on Saturday.

He's going to be like spitting behind the mount, putting his hair back. I love that guy, man. I don't know him at all. I might not like if I met him, but I like watching him. We don't know him at all. Like the idea of him. He's my moxie king, though. Yeah.

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