Talkin' Baseball (MLB Podcast) - Corbin Burnes Signs 6-Year Deal With Diamondbacks!

Episode Date: December 28, 2024

Corbin Burnes signs a 6-year contract with the Arizona Diamondbacks! Jake and Trevor break down what this means for the Snakes, how this shapes up the NL West, Teoscar Hernandez re-signing with the Dodgers and Gleyber Torres inking a 1-year deal with the Tigers! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Hello and welcome to Talking Baseball Corbyn Burns to the snakes and Dodgers obviously resigned to you Oscar 2. Let's talk all about it. Let's talk ball. Cornwords Cutter. Labor Torres. Ground ball second. Ground out. Hello and welcome to talking baseball presented to you by Seat Geek-Cote Talkin'10 as we have a couple days left in 2024. Corbin Burns and the snakes are ending it on a high note.

Trev, we'll tell the people, you know, we have no ad obligations this show. We're just doing it for the people and for baseball. Because Corbyn Burns, with one of the more surprising free agent signings in kind of recent history, six years, $210 million. He going to have a basement. coach. He is out there in Scottsdale. I think that's kind of one of the biggest things we'll probably talk about with Corbyn. You know, a lot of, a lot of times I think that we as fans and people who are fans of the sport just think, hey, these guys are chasing the

money. And I've said that before. Like, there's a lot of guys that are doing that. And when the situation calls for it, you want to bring that AAV up for you, for the next guy behind you. But then there's sometimes like I think what happened here with Corbyn Burns look he's got three kids now I believe his wife just had twins he lives in the Scottsdale area uh when you have the opportunity to make that kind of money play on a on a really good team with the diamondbacks uh and get to stay close to home plus the taxes like everything kind of made sense for Corbyn so you know when people are saying oh well maybe he's going to go to the Red Sox and they went out and got crochet and Bueller.

Maybe he's going to go to, you know, a team on the East Coast, whatever it may be, sometimes just boils down to. Corbyn Burns is trying to have it all right now. He's trying to be at home with his family, raise his young kids. You know, they offered him. That's a substantial amount. He gets the opt-out after two years, which I think is important. But like I said, you know, when you get this opportunity to just be at home for the majority of the season and spring training,

you know, sometimes that just, it takes over. You don't chase the last 10 million bucks. You say, I'm going to stay at home and it's going to be great for me and my family. Yeah, the tax part is interesting. We don't hear about that a ton in baseball. And maybe part of that is because baseball's Florida teams don't really spend. Like the, the Rays and the Marlins, they're kind of insignificant in a lot of free agent talks that, you know, I think it's funny in the NBA.

it's a thing like the Miami Heat or, you know, the Texas teams, they're often very attractive for some of the tax reasons that you're right. I mean, Corbyn's went to have his cake and more cake and a little lasagna over here. And he got it all. And I think the biggest surprise is that the Diamondbacks are willing to do this because this is one of, I mean, this is one of the biggest contracts we've seen in the sport. It's the largest in DeBacks franchise history, which it's actually not. as crazy as maybe you might think.

Zach Grinky signed there for six years, 206 in 2016. Zach Grinky's career is one of the more bizarre things. Your friend, Zach Green. My friend, I'll close the show with that story. That's so funny. But man, I mean, like we're talking,

it's behind Stephen Strasbourg for the six largest ever AAV for a starting pitcher. Scherzer Verlander Wheeler de Grom and Cole. So congrats to Gordon Burns, a guy, the famous John Boy pulling his hamstring as a sausage person. Corbyn Burns was talking about his free agency then. That was 21, 22. So for him to finally get the payday and the fact it's with the diamond backs and in Arizona, with his family, with less taxes, crazy. and if I was a fan of Toronto or a couple of the other teams that came down to it,

if Arizona is going to have this money, because Trev, they're one of the regional sports networks team that they're not sure about that revenue. Hey, the snakes are here to play, man. Yeah, I mean, they won 89 games last year.

So, like, I want people to readjust what they're thinking about the snakes. They just missed the playoffs the year before they're in the World Series. I mean, this is a team that had the best offense. in all of baseball last year, which is kind of crazy to say.

And where they actually struggled was, you know, they're pitching, they're starting pitching, their bullpen, you know, Zach Gallen was hurt for a little bit, but, you know, fought kind of, you know, took a step backwards. Merrill Kelly didn't have a great year. He only pitched 13 games, like,

bringing in a guy like Corbyn obviously stabilizes that. I know they lost Christian Walker. I know they lost, you know, Jack Peterson had a huge year too. But this is a team that's going to compete And I do want to touch on the taxes things. I feel like people are like, well, okay, you know, I think it's 4% state income tax in Arizona. California is 13, Canada.

I don't even know what it is. I think it's more than that. I think it's the highest in the big leagues. But you get taxed on where you earn the money. So 81 games, he'd be taxed to that 4% rate in Arizona. And then, you know, he's going to get taxed to the 13% rate when he plays in San Francisco, when he plays in L.A., when he plays in San Diego. go Colorado, I think it's like 9%.

So like you're getting taxed at all these different places. You got to have a good accountant for that. But for the majority of the games, yeah, he'll save money because he is playing in Arizona. I don't know. Do we have signing bonus or any specifics on the contract yet? Let me see. I can I can click around what Dalton threw on our sheet. Dalton.

23. No, that's to Oscar. Who does our, who does our staff. and sheets, and you guys might also know him from warehouse games and a lot of stuff at John Boy Media, a true Diamondbacks fan. I just became friendly with their social media account. He was on cloud nine last night, man, and this was a shock, man. I mean, the Snake's offseason was supposed to be, are they going to dump Monty? Are they going to dump Erod? Like, I saw some Diamondbacks accounts that were like, if we signed Kirby Yates, is this offseason a success? And they

bring in Corbyn Burns. Like he was the top starting pitcher piece. I'm curious what the other offers were because there are some reports that the Giants and the Blue Jays offered more. I want to know how much more. It's very interesting. And again, I think sometimes, you know, when you're a young dad like Corbyn, you just start to think about like, okay.

And $200 million, it's a lot of money. And it's whatever this is, 210 or 230, they kind of all start to to meld together, if you will, and then you have the opportunity, like I said, to play at home and just kind of, it starts to eat away at your brain. You know, his wife was probably saying,

hey, it'd be nice to have you around a little bit. Then you start to think about these things. And man, like, um, it makes a ton of sense to me. You know,

when you really, really break it down. I think a lot of times, again, we just forget about the family aspect. And we're trying to play like fantasy baseball with these free agent signings. Just like,

dude, these guys are humans too. And who wouldn't want to be around there, you know, he's got two, twin girls they just had this summer so it's good for corbin man i'm very very excited for him yeah and it's you know we we were laughing before with uh producer rob sheraco because we were going through our free agency draft and looking how how bad we're doing because it's it's just a

losing objective because one domino falls one way and then everything else i mean in the first domino was soda he went to the Mets and that moved max freed which moved everyone Corbin Burns kind of didn't have a clear landing spot. Like it was kind of the Mets we thought they were in play because this was the Mets big off season and they're going to bolster this. They've seemingly moved a lot of their attention to the lineup. And I don't know, I guess starting pitcher Frankie Montas, Clay Holmes with an opportunity star and Mania, obviously. The Baltimore Orioles, which I don't know if we want to get there, but everyone was wondering, okay, new owner. they said they're going to be different.

If it wasn't those two teams, which it turned out it wasn't, it was looking like it was going to be a mystery team of sorts. And I know, unfortunately, that's become a joke in the baseball lexicon. But the debacks were the mystery team. And them being in Arizona, I just, dude, Treve, I have no idea, like, how did that happen? Did Corbyn Byrne say, hey, Diamondbacks? Like, if you can get me into the two. Hyundai area code I'm down to dance yeah he probably went to his agent and said hey like this is

interesting to me go see what kind of figure they're willing to put out there uh as always bob nightingale and I are in lockstep right the Baltimore or quote the Baltimore Orioles were also aggressive in their pursuit to keep Corbyn burns but the opportunity for burns to stay at his home in Phoenix during spring training and the regular season meant more than chasing the last dollar Bob and I get it, dude. We understand the family aspect right there. Dude, the spring training thing also shouldn't go over people's heads. I've talked to a few players.

Obviously not super connected, but that's a big thing. Like, if you're a West Coast person or a Florida person, if the team plays spring training in the opposite location, you kind of don't want to be there. And then you have to live somewhere else. It's like it's, I think that's a huge part of this. Never mind the game checks and 81 games, but you know,

for that month and a half, two months of spring training, you're just living at home. Like that's massive. That's insane to me because I never obviously had to experience that. Typically you move three times a year when you're playing baseball. And it's, look,

yeah, can you pay people to move stuff for you? Sure. But it's not, it's just added stress on your family. And again, I think that clearly played a huge, pardon this. I am curious were the dimebacks engaged

or did Corby and say, guys, like, I'm thinking about this. What do you got for me? Because the reports were, they were trying to stay kind of like stagnant with their payroll. Right. They were going to dump Montgomery. They're still trying to trade him, I'm sure. But all of a sudden now

payroll goes up, I believe, to the highest level it's been. But if you have an opportunity to bring in a guy like Corbyn Burns, when you won 89 games with, let me see, these numbers, first year. The 27th ERA in baseball, 25th Witt from your starting pitchers,

25th ERA, 27th Witt for your relief pitchers. Like, you need some pitching. You won 89 games because of what your offense did. And Corbyn Burns is calling you saying, well, allegedly, we're saying this, calling saying, I want to play for your team. You take the call and you make the offer. That's what you do.

Well, that's what I wanted. A couple shoutouts that we don't traditionally do on this show. Ken Kendring. the Diamondbacks owner. Shout out. Unfortunately, we've made some wise cracks at this offseason because he had the Jordan Montgomery quote that was like. No, we like, I thought that was hilarious.

I mean, that was, it was wild. I guess we just kind of haven't seen that from owners, that it was like, we're going to get rid of this guy, which let's see how the offseason plays out there. But the debacks, man, like, like you said, take away the franchise name. They're a new franchise. I got this hat I'm wearing.

I was laughing when I put it on. It was their 25th anniversary. This is a baby franchise. But if you take away that name, and like you said, 89 wins last year, World Series the year before that, they just signed someone from 200 mil. They're not sure about their TV contract, but Trev, it seems like apparently they've got enough money to spend

that if you're a fan of one of the quote unquote smaller market teams, A, reminder, San Diego, small market. They went out and they got every, free agent for a couple years. San Diego. I'm not even ready to talk about that because we got to talk about Teosker and the Dodgers in a minute. What's going on there? But shout out to Ken Kendrick for getting it done. And dude, so as I got sucked into Dimeback's culture, like Phoenix has been a city that over the past 25 years has blown up. Like just as a city and with their sports teams that I don't know, the future for Arizona sports should be like between taxes, between the weather,

between like that just being a booming area, it should become like a great sports city. And I don't know, the debacks are like making strides to do that. People love it there. They really do. Especially if you're, you know, if you're from, I don't mean, I mean this like in the nicest way possible. If you're from California, a lot of California's actually end up moving there because of the taxes. is. But if you're from, I don't want to offend.

Here we go. Nebraska. Okay. Indiana. Okay. I know how to cool this down a little bit. It's hard to train in the off season. So you need a warm weather place. A lot of people end up there because spring training's there. It is a ton of fun. Um, I thought about, Olivia and I thought about moving there for tax purposes. We end up not doing it because we just love California so much. But Jake, let me sell you on a little dream here before we get into your offense one of the best offenses in baseball last year if not the best i believe we can confidently say it was the best offense in baseball last year you lose some people but you still you know you like what you have there sure now you have corbin burns and zach gown at the top of your

rotation okay a full year of maryl kelly and then you have guys you can kind of dream upon fought didn't have a great year last year end up with a four seven over 32 games but as a four starter, fifth starter, I think I like him. You bring in we'll see what happens with Jordan and Gummer. He's probably going to get shed for some payroll, right? But you have some depth there with the starting pitchers, okay? And then you kind of found a guy in Justin Martinez last year

throwing just absolute pills up there, closing out games. You still have ginks. You still got Ryan Thompson there. You trade for AJ Puck last year. Right. Like, on paper, this roster is pretty damn good. And I'm sure Corbyn. was like, oh, like, pretty good roster, plus all these other things. And I think that's what made the decision, man. I really think people, and we did it.

I did it definitely last year at the middle of the year. I said, are they going to trade some of these guys? Because they got off to a really, really slow start. And then they started to pick it up. But I think this team is better than a lot of people give it credit for. I guess is what I'm trying to say. Yeah, I mean, they, like you said, they missed the playoffs by one game or whatever, that last day the Mets Braves crazy doubleheader, that they would have been back in the dance

and a scary team to play with that offense. I think the interesting part now, well, there's a few interesting parts for the dimebacks for me. They did the Josh Naylor train, which we talked about, and that replaces a chunk of either Christian Walker or Jock Peterson. In my head, it's Jock. Because now the big question mark for me is how do they replace Christian Walker? Because like we oozed in Oz and he became everyone's, favorite free agent because of how good he was on both sides of the ball. It's tough for me to picture them going to Josh Naylor because defensively he's mediocre at best at first base. I'm curious to see that finish out because that's kind of the missing piece right now.

And I wonder, could that come in a Jordan Montgomery flip? Could that come somewhere else? Or Treve, Diamondback fans don't want to hear this and I'm not even saying this. So that's the good news. I think Zach Gallens on the last year of his contract. Like, what if, okay, just deep theory, Jake, what if Corbyn Burns comes to them and is like, hey, if you get me to 200, I'm in. And they were maybe either considering that money for Zach or maybe they weren't. I don't know. Like, they can get very creative now because they have some pitching ammo that it's probably just Monty and maybe they turn him into a first baseman and that's it, that's all. But I don't, I don't know. I don't know what their game plan is with

Zach Gallen, who Zach was probably like, hey, how don't you just extend me for that price? Montgomery, $22.5 million player option that he picks up, obviously. They're trying to get that off the books. If you get, you know, a majority of that off, do you go try to, like you said, go get another bat? Does that gallon? thing is very, very interesting to me because he's a very, very good pitcher. He's going to demand probably the same contract around there, right? Probably. Interesting, man. I don't know. Obviously, Corbyn Burns kind of locks up that ace spot for the next couple of years because he has that opt out. But yeah, they have decisions. I think

they see how this year goes. And you're right about, you talked about the TV model. They were direct to consumer all year last year as well. Right. So they have, I guess, now and I idea of, you know, what they're going to be bringing in as far as revenue from that. So that's, that's interesting. I saw someone talking about, you know, the Dodgers, it's unfair because they get this big TV deal and that's how they're able to spend all this money. And there was a comment saying, well, you know, that's what happens when you go out and you put stars on the field.

You can demand this type of money for your, for your TV deal. I mean, look, the angels are in, are in, um, Los Angeles as well, they're not getting the same thing because they, you know, they have Mike Trout and they had show hey, but they never surrounded. They didn't win. They didn't surround them with talent enough. And the Dodgers have consistently done that. So people want to watch. And if you're a businessman, sometimes, you know, the old adage, you got to spend money to make money.

Like maybe that's, you talked about Scottsdale and kind of the sports city that it's up and coming. If you go out there and put a winning product on the field, that is how you get people to watch. watch and if you suck that's how people that's what people don't watch like that's analytics TV analytics for you right there bring bring us in as private contractors to your sports team because is that I'm wrong though am I freaking wrong no man because this I said this a couple episodes ago the best way to bring in revenue is have a winner golden state that whole thing I'm not going to give the whole speech again, but like, hey, these dimebacks went to the World Series

two years ago. They got to see those financials. I'd like to think that's connected a little bit and that the Diamondbacks are like, hey, so if we pack this place with people and we go to the World Series and we sell merch and we do all of it, like this can be, this can be great for the business. I hope that's what's happening. And again, I hope what's that? Phoenix is 12th in the U.S. as like TV regions. According to Nielsen. Going on the Nielsen ratings there. I don't know if that's good or bad for argument.

12 seems a little. No clue. I have no clue how any of that works. Let's see the next move for the snakes. I guess comment below. It's probably flipping Jordan Montgomery for a first baseman, whoever that is. So if someone knows that trade,

I haven't dug through the weeds yet to find it, but that would make a lot of sense to me. So let's see what the snakes do. That's kind of their missing piece at this point is replacing Christian Walker in my head. Maybe they already have done that, and Naylor is going to play first, and they just need a DH, and that's easier to find.

Okay, you could talk me into that. But the debacks are looking like another strong team. And dude, Corbyn, Byrne, Zach Gallin, And Martin, like you said, come playoff time is if this team hits like last year and they can pitch with those guys. The dimebacks are a real threat, especially the Padres haven't done their work yet. The Giants have done work. The coastal elites, man, they're having an offseason tref. Is it as simple as just like Lawler at short Eugenio goes to first?

and then Naylor's the DH and you, I don't know. I still think you're right. If you bring in another right-handed bat, be into that. There's an easy move to be made. It's bringing a right-handed hitting DH, which those guys are out there. Justin Turner, JD, reunion, do it again. You love the old. I love the old guys.

Player coaches, yeah. Have JD coach all those young guys? I think that's it. Okay. Naylor, you're playing first. I just got talked into it. Trev, the other one that happened, I think it happened right before Burns,

and everyone was like, yeah, here we go again. The Dodgers re-signed Teosker. Teosker Hernandez is going back to the Dodgers. Three years, 66-Milly, 22-Mille year, a 15 million club option that fourth year with a $6.5 million buyout. So I think Teasker is going to be there for four more years, four more years.

And man, I don't know. Sometimes we just talked about the business of the sport. You guys now know that Phoenix Scottsdale is the 12th largest consumer TV market. But we still like to romanticize the like, dude, Teosker was really about L.A. And that's easy to say when it's L.A., it's one year. They won the World Series. But Teasker was really about L.A. with that crowd. And they're the Dodgers, dude, and everything we're saying about money and TV deals or whatever.

They have now blown past the highest tax threshold. I think they're sitting at $353 million, which means they're paying basically 110% on every dollar over $301 million. So the Dodgers do have real money to spend. and who knows if they're done. They have to be done, dude. They have to be done. I don't know. Look, I think it was a no-brainer for them to bring him back.

Obviously, I think Tiasker wanted to come back. He was searching for that dollar amount because he's coming off a career year, all those things. But he just, he fit the mold. He was the heart and hustle, like, award winner for them. He just, you talked about him really. embracing like being a dodger and i i'm going to say something here dominican dude right okay loves like a latin culture uh you know a spanish culture if you will toronto a very worldly place but i don't know how much is up there seattle i don't know how much is up there you come to l a i feel like it probably

felt a little bit more like home like a little bit more comfortable for him and you get to play with all these guys, you're surrounded in the lineup, you're getting better pitches to hit. Everything kind of worked out. And yeah, to me, it almost seemed like that was going to happen. It was a no brain for both sides to bring him back because now you have, who is the outfield? Hey, Oscar and left.

Tommy Edmund and center. And they signed Conforto. Why not? Right. So you have James Outman on the bench, which I, love that guy i think he's like going to settle in to be a damn good ball player so mookies i'm just putting all this together in my head on the fly muki is it short i think the they they've said mookie's going to play second okay so then you need a miggie okay so they can do all sorts of

tommy short you can put they're so versatile what's going that's crazy they can run this lineup so many different ways because mooky bets can play all these different positions so Tommy be at short. James could be out there in center field. Mookie at second. Then you have Gavin Lux, Miggie Rojas on the bench. Chris Taylor on the bench. Good for the Dodgers, man. Good for the Dodgers. They, uh, Robb's saying that Betts is going to start the year as a shortstop. I mean, I feel like we did this last year and I feel like it ended up not mattering. Well, Lux, luck's kind of struggled. Right. At the beginning of last year and in spring training, but he came on in the second half of last year.

So maybe that's what they're thinking. But don't they haven't they also had quotes recently that are like we want less wear and tear on Mookie? So now now we're just going to put them back at like we how many times have we done the is right field or second base easier on the body game? And we still kind of don't have a perfect answer. Mookie made some plays out there in the outfield during the playoffs last year too. That was like saving runs.

Oh man. I kind of like him better in the outfield. If we're being honest. I do too. he's he's one of the best like right field there's no spot for him now this time too many guys he's got to play infield dude the confordo thing is nuts um and that was a real that wasn't like hey one year five mill let's see if confordo can tap in like i think confordo got this yes yes what do you do with all these guys they're like they might trip but i was just going to say they might trade

But what else would they bring in? Because this is the whole game. Like, there's not a lot of room. Andy Paz for like a reliever. These are young controllable kids. Like a great reliever. Those are young ballplayers with years of control.

You don't need to be starting pitching. So here's what I mentioned to you. And Dodgers fans, let us know. Austin Barnes, great guy. I think he's a good clubhouse guy. People love him. Could they bring in? a backup catcher that helps out a little bit more.

They wouldn't trade one of those guys for, I'm just saying, like you were saying, where can they go from here? Like maybe that's one move they could do. Christian Vasquez, come get him from the twins, he's open. Stop trying to trade Christian Vasquez to other teams. I love Vaski.

I know. I don't want him to be traded. They just keep saying they're going to trade him. I don't, Austin Barnes has been there a while. That would, it's, weird that the Dodgers, it feels like they kind of do every, like, how long has Austin Barnes been a Dodger? Right now, because you're right. I think since 2015. Like, that's nuts, bro. Like, we don't, like, I think there's some Dodgers fans listening to this and like, get rid of

Austin Barnes. Is he, is he a free agent? He's a free agent. Oh, it, it has him on the roster. I know, but it says free agent in 2025. They, they, oh, there's a team officer. Oh, there's a team option. So did they pick it up? As far as I'll always know, Austin Barnes is a Dodger. Yeah, someone, Rob, can you look up if they've picked up the team option on Austin Barnes. It's $3.5 million. I mean, he's on their fan graph, so I'm assuming so.

We'll have Rob check in on that. Yeah, for the Dodgers, Snell, okay, they signed Snell, reminder, Yoshinobu Yamamoto, Glass Now. Gonselin and May are supposed to be back. Otani is pitching this year. And they've got like, I mean, they have four prospects who are probably better than your prospects

who are out for all of next year. Kyle Hurt, River Ryan, Sheen and Stone. What do they do? You got me thinking now with the Twins Dodgers. They've linked up before. I'm being serious. And I don't mean this, like, I don't want any of this.

to happen because I want the twins to be competitive, but they've talked about shopping Duran, they've talked about shopping jacks, you know, they're kind of like in the market, like everyone's available for being honest. Yeah. What, like one of those big dog relievers

coming over to the Dodgers for one of these guys we just talked about? Yes. Yeah. So that's good. That's good for the rest of baseball. Don't be one of those people. they uh Dodgers are

are they just on another level like baseball doesn't really work like that we know that but like for a team to run it back I guess I'd have to check myself because I was I was talking myself into the Braves I was like these Braves are really good they might just run it back

and then baseball kind of reared its ugly head the Dodgers they're adding a lot of new pieces show he's going to pitch this year like imagine if they were in the American League we'd be talking about it like no contest so I've been playing Santa brought

Teddy and out of the PS5 and a dog I mean what a what a freakie game yeah no kidding huh I've been playing Fortnite with my kids so the Dodgers if you know Fortnite it's like you got

all the ammo plus you got like the slurp juice and some band Like even if they get shot a few times, right bandage, slurped juice, they're back. Oh. That's depth people. That's depth. That's what the Dodgers have.

And you talked about like, yeah, you know, for the Braves, they got bit by injuries. The Dodgers, they can get bit by. How many injuries can they sustain and still go? Like a lot. Like to their starter, to their relievers, to their position players. Like they have a roster full of. starting capable players. Like they are,

they're, they're, they're, they're stacked. They can, they can lose Mooki, Freddie or Shohei and be okay.

Yeah. Like, Max Muncie, Will Smith, Tay Oscar, those guys could be one of the best hitters in the NL next year. Like they've, I forgot that show he's going to pitch.

I forgot that he's a starting pitcher. Because he just wants, the MVP as a hitter and went 50 50 50. I forgot that he's a starting pitcher. That's a joke. Glass now, Snell, Yamamoto, Shohey, and the plethora of options behind him.

Which River Ryan is my favorite. Bobby Miller, who the hell knows? Like, the vibes on that team are also just immaculate. Hey, Blake Snell engaged last night. Thought he was already engaged.

Didn't know that. I thought that was like a reenactment. but maybe it was i don't know i just saw it on his instagram and you know that's i mean he is the man blake snows instagram might be my most visited internet page even evan longoria that's you that's you know by the way he longoria text me i just put a a post out on the gram of my holidays and he texted me said you're so hot these days man and i'm like i know i don't know what's going on, I'm aging so well. Dude, puppy and Fortnite?

Look at you. Dude. I've been playing. I've never been a video game my entire life. Right. Kids are playing. I'm like, I want to mess around with it.

I sent you the picture of Ila. Yeah. Locked in. Locked in with some shades. Holy smokes. I guess, Trev, I don't even know if we want to do Glaber cool.

I guess for both of these NOS signings, there's some ripple effects. I mentioned the Padres in passing. Like, what do you do? Like, the Giants are rolling bags out there. The D-Backs are rolling bags out there. The Dodgers are talking about them as a super team. The Padres and the Twins are like a couple of the teams that haven't signed anyone to a major league deal, right? There's like four or five teams that have not done that.

Pittsburgh Pirates, I think, are one of them, which is hilarious. No, they signed Cutch. Yeah, he's back. My Uncle Rick, my Uncle Rick, big Pirates fan, loves Cutch, not loving their offseason so far. But I guess they brought Tyler Wade back. That's the only move to the Major League level that they brought. The two teams that jump out the most in this episode to me,

besides obviously the teams that signed are the Padres and the Orioles, bro. Like, I've never been an Orioles hater. beautiful stadium, whatever. You know, when the Orioles are good, it's good for baseball. Like that place rocks and, you know, the baby O's. Like, we all kind of got roped in. Dude. Baby Jays, baby O's.

Let's go, O's. Where do they even go, Trev? Our guy Jack? I don't think there was like a great relationship there. He ended up sad in the bullpen. Like he didn't and we're talking about players getting contracts like I don't know, Jack's like you know he's turned into a Vegas guy like I don't does he want to live in Baltimore? I have no clue. Is he going to sign with the A's so get ready for their move?

Oh my gosh. I don't think so. That's not out. But I I mean if you're Baltimore, I guess Santander could come back and we'd like that but that's that's still getting back to where they were, which was an unsuccessful. I don't know, man. If I'm Baltimore, I'm freaking out a little bit. A lot of the prizes of this offseason are off the table. If I'm the Padres, I'm just wondering what the heck are we going to do? And then I don't know if coach ballgame was yanking my chain, but supposedly the Cubs were

in on Corbyn, the Blue Jays, like, dude, what are they doing? I don't, I don't know. You have to pivot, dude. you're not always going to land the people that you go after obviously and the blue jays you know they're in i think the blue jays are in the most the craziest situation in baseball because they have these two looming free agents and then their whole basically their whole identity after that is playing good defense and that just hasn't really worked out for them i thought they were poised to go on an absolute run i like the rotation that they built up there i like the guys they brought in and just

hasn't worked dude so yeah they in a week a l they're probably going to have to trade to trade and then try to recoup and retool I guess is what you'd say because even in this week a.L they're just they're just not there bizarre man um we keep hearing how much money they have so why don't they just go let's keep let's keep the gang together and add on because the alternative is what I just said you trade Vladie you trade bow and you figure it out after that right that's your team identity. Holly. Well, I guess we will see, Coach. Last question. Glaber takes the Tigers out of Alex Breggman watch?

Yes. I was a little surprised that all the Breggman tiger stuff, like I get that they're a young burgeoning team, but like they're still paying by as a ton of money. And they have these other infielders that for me that never made sense. Glaver's done some hitting in Detroit for one year. I mean, we talk about the one year pitcher deals like that. For one year for Glaver to try to run it out there and see if you could have a second baseman with an OPS and the eights. Like I like that for Detroit. The weird part is moving Colt Keith to first for me.

But again, I guess that's the little bit of frustration for me is because I love sports, Trev, you know this. You do. Record Wake and Jake. I'm always watching sports. I love sports. Part of I love about it is fair competition that, you know, the Tigers signing Glaber, that was a big deal for them.

Like one year 15 mil, and we just mentioned Conforto as like a filler piece for the Dodgers, and that was a bigger contract. So I don't know. Like I want to get excited about the Tigers and Glaber and man, like Carpenter, Glaber, like they might hit a little bit at the top of that lineup. But it also, at a certain point, it feels like we're talking about bringing a knife to a gunfight. Well, what they did at the end of last season was crazy with basically having one, one and a half starting pitchers and just running out bullpen games. You know, even Hinch himself says it's not sustainable through 162.

They just kind of caught fire and I don't want to say got lucky, but they cut fire. Right. You know, they had the right idea for those one and a half to two months. They went out and executed exactly how they had to execute. They did it. So they do, like, bringing Jack back would be a huge deal for them too. I think that will, to me, that would be like, okay, the Tigers are still very much in contention to win the A. Central and to go on a run again like they did last year. But they have to do something like that. But I like, I like labor to, to them. I do. I, I do too. I think, I think him in the Yankees needed to get away from each other. I know it's not the perfect hitters park for

Glaber, but he's, he's hit some, I think he's hit a couple of his longest home runs in Detroit. So maybe he sees it well there. Who knows? Um, but I, Glaber for a year, he's going to let that go tegrow in. He's going to hit. Um, and hey, Trev, you want to talk about full circle. Producer Rob Chiraco, Jolly Olive getting in the mix without hearing this episode. Jolly Olive tweeted out, Jordan Montgomery for Spencer Torkelson. A little change of scenery for Torkelson. Was he in Arizona State guy? Am I remembering that right?

Arizona State guy. Tigers get a pitcher. D-backs get a high upside first baseman. I don't know. 24 years old, Spencer Torkelson? That's a trade that that, if he's. 25, excuse me, he's 25 years old. He gets that one swing coach and it all comes together.

That trade can hurt you real quick. So I don't know about that, but he's a free agent in 2029. Yeah, that's, they wouldn't. No. Because they wouldn't eat the salad. They wouldn't eat, like Arizona would have to eat the salary. And the whole point of this is they don't want to take the money on. So no.

Maybe they have to add somebody. Jolly, you're an idiot. You're blasted by the sun over here. Look at this. Okay. Hey, last thing for me. Sure. Happy 35th birthday to Austin Barnes.

Wow. Wow. You're on team, my bad. Happy birthday. I can't believe you tried to take Austin Barnes off the Dodger. Dude, I'm trying to figure it out. You're like, what can they do next? Like, well, like, a little upgrade backup catcher would be nice.

I don't think that's, I mean, when, that's not like way off, but when Austin Barnes wants to hang it up, he might just like, like, into Dave Roberts bench coach and then he might just take the gig like it just seems like that's what's happening he's gonna be like don't let that guy have a media pass isn't it funny that Dave Roberts became a good manager or famer he's a Hall of Fame manager good stolen base that's I mean I used to have some really strong takes on this show and one of them was my manager take right like you got to have a pretty good team to be a good manager.

Right? And the really good managers will tell you that straight off the rip. Jim Leland will tell you that straight off. No. Me and Jim Leland, Nick Cunto. New Year's Eve, ripping darts. Hey, this is probably our last talking baseball before the New Year's. So, hey, thank you to everyone.

It's been another fun one And it's almost going to be time to gear up soon We're going to be doing team profiling projections We got to get Breggia home We got to get Jack a home Pete Alonzo's out there That's 40 homers someone sign him If we don't see you

Thank you guys so much From the plofs and their puppy And Trev playing Fortnite Rob Sher Rocco and everyone Thank you guys And we'll We'll see you soon, I guess Jake sucks