Talkin' Baseball (MLB Podcast) - Dodgers on Verge of World Series, Blue Jays Even ALCS!

Episode Date: October 17, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:01 Hello and welcome to talking baseball. We've got a series in the AL. Toronto ties it up at twos and congrats to the Dodgers on going to the World Series. Let's talk ball. Wow. Flew Hardy. ICF, bro, all day long. What a player. Hello and welcome to Talk in Baseball.
Starting point is 00:00:30 IKF's impending free agency. Come home. Let's get you back in pinstripes. Talking baseball. presented by Seekkeke. Code J.M. Playoffs for 10% off your playoff tickets and all of our special live, a lot of them. Postseason talking baseball is presented by T-Mobile. However you watch the game, streaming on the road, checking stats, ballpark perks with magenta status, T-Mobile's where you want to be. Head over to T-Mobile.com slash network. I am Jake Storelli.
Starting point is 00:01:03 That is Trevor Plouf. And boy, we are in it. It's October 16th. I haven't said the date. in a while. It's about to be the 17th and 6 minutes on the East Coast. Coach Trev, the AL, we've got some juice, the NL, a little chalk,
Starting point is 00:01:23 a little more chalk than juice. How are you? I'm doing good. I feel like we should just get out in front of it. I do two shows after these games, and on our first show, we talked about Mad Max and what I thought was going to happen. And listen, all of you thought
Starting point is 00:01:38 the same thing. I'm stoked for Mad Max and what was going on tonight. We'll get into that. But everybody relax a little bit. Oh, my gosh. You, uh, you hedged a little bit on baseball today. I'm happy for you. I didn't really hedge, to be honest. I gave it a fan fiction. I like to do that from time to time as you know.
Starting point is 00:01:58 I do. And you know, I do know, Matt, people, you don't know Max Scherzer opinion. Like, motherfuckersers. Yes, I know Max Scherzer. Much better than you. knew him before he was even he was out of Missouri and I was facing him in the AFL where were you in 2007? You were on the desert dogs, were you?
Starting point is 00:02:16 I didn't see you there. 2007, depending what time of year I could have been playing soccer or track. Yeah, I was 21 and facing Max Scherzer and he was disgusting then. He's disgusting apparently still
Starting point is 00:02:34 at 41 years old. Shout out my guy, Mac. Yeah, I mean, you know, I'm happy for you defending yourself. We could have just opened up and been like, wow, Jake kind of knows ball, even though he wasn't playing against Max Scherzer because he basically laid out the... I got a text from Casey Lynch mid-game. What did you say? I said he could put together a Bieber-esque start like he did the other day that if they
Starting point is 00:02:56 have a lead and he's wrong. Hey, let's... Nobody fucking cares. Take that. Hey, kids listening. Yeah. Use that word. Yeah, say the F-Bump.
Starting point is 00:03:06 Repeat everything. say. Let's not do that and anger our fan base on multiple levels. Let's talk the ball because, man, the American League has ended up in a really fun spot for both these franchises that had a lot on the line. We're going to start there and we'll give the Dodgers their flowers in a little bit and the Brewer's funeral. But first, the American League. After a rocky game three for Seattle, turn to their rock. La Piedra, Luis Castillo, while Toronto would try to go on a Fury Road behind Mad Max trying to have one more day in the sun. But for Toronto's Drake, they get Josh. Nailer goes solo Homer, one nothing, but Toronto pops the Andre bottles. After Jimenez Homer's again,
Starting point is 00:04:05 Castillo gets pulled and in an uninspired RBI walk by Gabe, they, take the lead. In the fourth, George's, George Springs and RBI double, scores on a very brash, wild pitch by Matt. It's five to one Blue Jays, but the offensive boat arrives for the Mariners. Gino, RBI single, but Josh gets nailed at third to end the inning and that end of the game. How about the old warrior? Mad Max brought it for 5.2 innings, two earn runs, Flew Hardy, Vollen, Hoffman, Dominguez. And how about another Vledito insurance, Homa, Homa? Toronto wins a two final.
Starting point is 00:04:54 There are some good puns in there, Jake, as always. Nice job. The standings of this series, each team, two and two. My goodness, we got a series. Sheesh. It's leading us to maybe one of the best games of the postseason for this game five. I know we had a couple game five's last series to move on. So it's, I don't know, the do-or-diedness of it.
Starting point is 00:05:19 But these teams that have looked so good, or at least teams that had their moments of looking good because Toronto, man, they have smelt the blood in the water that eight and nine in the lineup, Trev, where maybe that's where instead of licking your wounds, you should have complimented yourself because that was kind of your what to watch for going forward in the series. Because it's part of what made the game.
Starting point is 00:05:42 this Toronto team so dangerous. In back-to-back games, Jimenez, the defensive salary dump from Cleveland, hits another homer in a bunt situation, essentially. Essentially the same exact thing. And dude, after that happened, you almost see, like, in the scary movie when the character's eyes, like the zombie's eyes like flicker
Starting point is 00:06:06 and you're done for, that's what Toronto does at the plate. Everyone that came up after that Jimenez at bat, was scary and that's how the rest of the game went. I mean, 11 hits, how many walks did they go through today? Four walks. I mean, they were just on base, having good at bats. They were playing good defense,
Starting point is 00:06:26 Barger with a couple of really nice plays, throwing Nailer out, diving for one down the right field line. I mean, this is the team we expected in this series. First two games, Seattle dominates. Next two games, Toronto dominates. And I hope it keeps going back and forth like this. And I assume that it will, but I think we got to start with our guy on the mound mad Max.
Starting point is 00:06:48 I mean, to be honest with you, the first couple innings, I thought he got away with some stuff, some walks, he got the big double play, he gets the pickoff, but he settled down. He was slinging that curveball all night tonight. Under the hitting speed, I don't know what it was, but guys were not picking that pitch up. And he was throwing enough strikes where they had to be aggressive. He looked phenomenal. I am convinced that John Snyder went out there knowing full well he wasn't taking him out.
Starting point is 00:07:15 This was all a show. And you know what? I love it. I freaking love that. Pump him up. Maybe he went out there to give Max just a little bit more adrenaline. Maybe that was the plan. There was no way he was taken out.
Starting point is 00:07:28 He doesn't do it. He ends up going five and two thirds. K's five people. I mean, I'll be honest with you. You could tell me I don't know Ball. Clearly you don't know me if you think that. But I did not see a five-and-two-third Johnny coming out of Max Scherzer after a three-and-a-half week layoff, after kind of what he looked like at the end of the season.
Starting point is 00:07:53 He's 41 years old. He needed a haircut. I'll say that, but he doesn't care. It was awesome to watch, man. The changing of the speeds, you know, mixing his pitches, all the things. Like he was like right there. He's trying to hide that emotion, trying to keep it all there. He didn't want the adrenaline dump that they keep talking about in this postseason.
Starting point is 00:08:14 I don't know, man. It was, I felt like proud. Yes. Did you feel that way? Yes, Trev, because this is all of the points and all of the things in that young, my first AOL username was Sports Jake wanted to believe in, that being a veteran matters. And that's what we saw. Like the way he pitched, he had extra rest.
Starting point is 00:08:35 Like the fastball was sitting at 94.5 for a lot of this game. So, okay, Max had a little more there. So that helps, and he was well-rested. So that goes into being an old and knowing your body a little better. Like, we know Schneider said he looked better in his bullpen, but you're going to say that either way, right? But you'd like to think Mad Max Scherzer knows what he's got going on in that 40-plus-year-old frame.
Starting point is 00:08:59 And then, dude, he put on a show. And it's a little bit, I mentioned this with Jack Flaherty. Like, in a playoff situation, I think these guys are smart enough that, hey, if they got to walk you, they'll walk you. And, like, they'll find a way out of that. But they're going to find a way to try not to give up the big blow. And he did that early on. And then when the momentum changed in this game, which one of those momentum moments,
Starting point is 00:09:23 again, having a savvy veteran old dog, he picks off Leo Revis. What is you doing, baby? And the Mariners have about trace what is you doing babies in this game, that after that moment, it was gone. And then Max, in that at bat, rally was up. The home run leader, the 60 plus home run catcher, and you're Leo Revis leading off first. You get picked off by Max Scher who hadn't had a pickoff since 2016.
Starting point is 00:09:55 He wasn't even going. He just had a big lead. He had a big lead, and he had one of those slides, if you've ever played baseball, where you're like asking your body to go. go a little more and you're just not going as fast as you wished. Leave the three hole open for Cal Raleigh. Stay on first base.
Starting point is 00:10:15 You're in scoring position for Cal. Softball lead. That was the tying run at the plate with Cal. But again, that's a match. And Vladdy knew right away, which I thought was really cool too. A lot of guys do that.
Starting point is 00:10:29 He check it, checker, check this, this, this, this, this, whatever. He knew right away. And as soon as you saw the replay, he gone. And yeah, I mean, I'm not going to say the Mariners didn't beat themselves, but they a couple times took themselves out of rallies.
Starting point is 00:10:42 We saw that one. We saw the nailer base running. He is just, he's in his head. He said, I can steal bases. Why can't I go first or third? And it's like, you got to remember the sprint speed at some point. Also, Barger has a cannon. That was a great throw.
Starting point is 00:11:00 Look at this thing. He charged it, gets the body behind him, squares up the shoulders, and just throws an absolute strike. And my guy, Ernie Clement is a dog. Is he, like, I feel like he should be the ALCS MVP. He's on every time he gets up to the plate. It's ridiculous. I have, I'm sorry, I have a note on something I noticed during this game that I think you like.
Starting point is 00:11:24 That as in Barger throw is a great example of, like, when the outfielders start getting close to the infield, you really see what kind of arms some of those guys have? Like, that's what Barger showed on that play. Josh Naylor just cannot happen. That's Flew Hardy is in the game after Scherzer, who Scherzer gave, you know, the old Warriors performance one last night on the hill, that you have Flew Hardy in,
Starting point is 00:11:49 and he gives up a run. Gino gets, you know, that inside out, ugly RBI single, but hey, those are hits in October, as Ron Darling told us the other night, that it would have been really interesting. That would have been Can Zone coming up. that in previous games, they've pinch hit Garver and then put in another outfielder.
Starting point is 00:12:09 And the last time we saw Garver, he had a triple that, like, if you've got that energy and momentum, that again, the new story eleism, those are words because they're real things. Like, Seattle wanted that and needed that if they wanted to get back in this game. Instead, they burst the bubble instantly while the run just barely scores, which my God, how loud would have been?
Starting point is 00:12:32 How loud would the internet and broadcast had been if Nailer got out before that? Yeah, that's an atrocious Nailer who had a great game, three for three at the plate. That's the most important thing he did on the field tonight. Hey, some guy in Toronto in the chat. All of the USA is not against the Blue Jays. Right. That's such a Canadian thing to think, dude. That's just not the case.
Starting point is 00:13:00 I'm sorry. There's a lot of Toronto that's for the Mariners, a lot of Vancouver. What are we doing here, man? I don't know. Hey, man, it's us against the world, Pat. I did that. Every single fan base thinks that. Every single fan base thinks that. Sometimes when that's happening, Trev, you got to put on your hater blockers.
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Starting point is 00:14:21 do this? Are we going to keep them going? They leave them in for Randy. Notorious fastball jump you hitter Randy Roserana but the old Fox out foxed him he started him out with two or three fastballs got ahead of Randy and when he got two strikes he banged a curveball that almost landed in the grass
Starting point is 00:14:43 and Randy swang through it it was just it was a chef's kiss of that's who I am I yes I don't have my A stuff yes I don't have my stuff that got me $400 million playing this game, but I can still beat your ass at this game.
Starting point is 00:15:02 Repeat that, kids. We did, I mean, Chris did Scherzer salary, total salary. I want to say it's 360 something? Let's double check. I can get in there. I thought he was close to four. It's 340 or 360. That's pretty good.
Starting point is 00:15:19 That's not bad. That's not bad. I want to know what he's spending his money on. What is in his basement, a talking baseball? He's not like a jewelry guy. No jewelry. I think he, I don't think he's a, he might be a car guy. He might be one of those weird car guys that only likes, like race cars.
Starting point is 00:15:36 Yeah. I could see that. I could see him. He could just be a car guy and like that's his thing. It could also just be like a weird car guy. He's got like a batmobile. He's like, yeah, I don't know. I don't drive it, but that's fucking cool.
Starting point is 00:15:51 I know he doesn't spend on clothes. 345 milly. 345 milly. Not too bad. I had a tough day in the crypto markets today. I was telling you
Starting point is 00:16:00 before the show. Tough one. Bobbo? He keeps his World Series ring in his sock drawer. That's right. That was on the Rose rotation. And he famously showed up
Starting point is 00:16:11 to the World Series, I think, and okay, sorry to the Scherzers. Wasn't it an all-time bad outfit? Didn't he show up in like a wrinkly, unbuttoned shirt
Starting point is 00:16:20 and like a bad pair of pants? So like if someone showed up to your office that way, you'd be like, hey, you got to get out of here. You can't be here like this. And he happens to be one of the best pitchers of all time. My third Mariners, what is you doing, baby?
Starting point is 00:16:35 Okay. They brought in Spire for Castillo, which I can't be too critical of. It's tough. Spire walks a guy, but you're playing a playoff game to win and Castillo started getting hit and started walking guys that inning. You press the button and however that result plays out,
Starting point is 00:16:54 you're screwed or excited either way. But Spire stays in a couple innings. They bring in Matt Brash to come in for Vladdy with George Springer at third. And instead of just being proud and either walking Vladdy and keeping Spire in or not pitching to Vladdy, who I must emphasize who he is and who he's being this postseason, if there's a runner in scoring position or an open base,
Starting point is 00:17:21 he's kind of not on the table. You kind of have to keep it moving. Brash spikes a slider and Springer scores easily. And that was one of the final balloon pops for Seattle. Yeah, I mean, I just think that they need to find some way to have amnesia to flip the script. Because right now, if the Blue Jays come in and win three in a row in Seattle, Holy shnikes dude And you know what
Starting point is 00:17:53 Gotta give it up to not only Shurzer I'm calling Bebs an old dog I'm calling him an old dog Right Yeah different level of old dogs But yes How many years
Starting point is 00:18:04 Is Bebe's got in the league I mean not crazy Like he never He never left Cleveland Is this like it's 60 year Or is my like Eight year It's like you
Starting point is 00:18:16 Just like you It's a vet Yeah You gotta sigh you in the bag. Not bad. My other random note that I had from before,
Starting point is 00:18:27 before maybe we tee up the other game, or I go through some of Dalton's fantastic stats here. I just had a weird moment where me and Joe's kind of ended up streaming this game. It got complicated. He showed up late for the first stream and he wanted to stream the second game, whatever. A lot of Cleveland on the field.
Starting point is 00:18:48 Yeah. Ernie Clement. Josh Naylor, Andres Jimenez, Miles Straw. That I noticed that Naylor doubled down the line and it got cut off well by straw and he was kind of pointing at him like, come on man, you couldn't give me that double? And then I was like, wait, there's a ton of guard dogs on the field
Starting point is 00:19:08 playing winning baseball. How weird is that? Bieber, who else? I think there's some relievers too. We could find a couple more in here. I'm sure we could. deep. Game, what is it, game five tomorrow?
Starting point is 00:19:26 Yeah, we got two more, we got two more games tomorrow. LA with a chance to freaking sweep. Oops, we got ahead of ourselves there. Sorry to ruin your burn. Sorry. Gossman versus Bryce Miller. So that's what we saw game one. Bryce Miller ended up giving a special performance.
Starting point is 00:19:41 Gossman kind of was too until he ran out of steam. And yeah, I guess of no Anthony Santander before. this game ruled out for the rest of the postseason. So Joey Loporffito is on the roster. We'll see if he ends up in a big spot. Yeah, I don't know. Max Scherzer, the fourth pitcher to win an ALCS start at 41 or older. Clemens, Kenny Rogers, and Dennis Martinez, excuse me.
Starting point is 00:20:15 And the Mariners are now 2 and 8 in 10 ALCS home games in franchise history. Not good. I've asked you this before, but do you ever eat at Kenny Rogers Roasters? I don't think so. Rotissory chicken place. It was unbelievable.
Starting point is 00:20:32 No, Dalton gave a thumbs up. I have not. But is that, like, isn't there two Kenny Rogers like a country singer and then a pitcher? Yes. Okay, I don't know who it was. I'm assuming the country singer.
Starting point is 00:20:42 Kenny Rogers, the gambler, man. That was. Yeah. That was one of those, when I was watching baseball at a young age, I was like, the way they talk about him, I definitely currently don't appreciate. And now I think I get it.
Starting point is 00:20:56 Like the Kenny. Who? Kenny Rogers. Okay. Like just old dogging it out there. Okay. People stopped listening. Anything else from here, Coach? I got nothing.
Starting point is 00:21:12 Three game series. Three game series for your life. Three game series for your life. One more in Seattle. Then back to Toronto. They've ensured that. Gladdy passes Joey Bats for most. homers by a Blue Jay in a single postseason.
Starting point is 00:21:27 I think, have the Blue Jays won six in a row in Toronto? Might have to double check. Or in Seattle? In Seattle? Yes, that's what I meant. So, yeah, let's, teams to win games one and two, then lose games three and four in any postseason series have gone on to win 13 out of 23 times, so a little over half. There you go, Seattle.
Starting point is 00:21:49 There you go, Seattle. You still have hope. Win a, okay, Toronto fans turn your. ears off for a second. Seattle, win a game in front of your home crowd in the ALCS. Here's some more JCPyLytics. You win tomorrow, either team, and then you just got to win one of the next two. Right. You make the task so much easier. So much easier. Going to be one of the biggest and hopefully best games of the postseason tomorrow night. Let's jump over to the beautiful National League.
Starting point is 00:22:30 Milwaukee heads to L.A. down two games to none. So in this case of emergency, they'll try to break glass now as Tyler and the Dodgers face opener and then the Mizz for Milwaukee. The opener turned out to be a losing betts as Mookie hits the RBI double. It's one-nothing Dodgers. But luckily, Jake Rakes as Bauer gets an RBI single and we are tied up at one. It would stay that way until the six. Ms. Locked in. Glass locked in. Playoff Tommy Tanks with the RBI single. And then a free man scores as Freddie goes home on an errant pickoff
Starting point is 00:23:10 throw. It's three to one Dodgers, but their Achilles heel, the bullpen. They turned in three point one innings of one hit, no earned run ball. Glass now to Vescia to Trinning to Sissaki. Dodgers, take game 3-3-1 final. Standings, yeah, plug your ears, Milwaukee. Dodgers, 3-0, Milwaukee, 0-N-3. And it hasn't even been close. It has, and it hasn't at all. It hasn't felt close to me.
Starting point is 00:23:51 Hasn't at all. They were a bloop and a blast away. Two runs, that's all you want. And if they tied it, L.A. would have hit a Homer. They're not blooping. they're not blasting. Nine total hits in three days. Three games, nine hits.
Starting point is 00:24:08 How many runs? Three? Three. I mean, that's, I mean, that's, I think, I think that's like the whole analysis of this series. And, okay, let's start with the Dodgers, because they're the team doing that to the Brewers.
Starting point is 00:24:28 And sure, all of us have had this in our head since free agency and hell them winning, last year when they signed Shohei and they started loading up this team around Shohei that man hey like okay it was Tyler Glassnow like this is a guy I Jeff Passon who he's careful with his words when he talks about baseball he's like when Glasnow has his first fully healthy season he probably wins
Starting point is 00:24:57 a Cy Young like that's how good this guy is and that's and he was that after he settled in the brewer's best two chances were in the first and the second and then i think he went on a five five k strikeout run that he's as nasty as almost anyone in baseball yeah that's i was going to say look we talked about this before his start you got to make him uncomfortable on the mound so you got to get back to playing brewer's ball and they kind of did that early on you know a derbman gets on he's stealing base and he's stealing baseball which, you know, against glass now, you can do that. He's not a guy that holds runners on well at all.
Starting point is 00:25:38 So they had their chances, but they just didn't capitalize enough. Like this play right here, I thought this is going to be a big turning point in the game because Kike, like, you know, if he doesn't die for that, it's a double instead of as a triple with a runner on third base with one out. He ends up coming in. But I think the play that really kept Milwaukee at Bay. was the Max Muncie play at third base. Yeah, man.
Starting point is 00:26:05 It's a great freaking play to get Bowers out at the plate. You know, ranging to his left. I know Bob was going to get the video up for us right now. But, you know, I think a lot of people don't see Muncie as this type of defender. And this was flawless. This was step to the left, kind of back angled it, spun, planted his right foot right away. Again, zero ways to move it.
Starting point is 00:26:30 And then fired an absolute. strike to home to get Bowers up had to be put there and he didn't and once that happened it felt like okay like that might have been their chance and you want them have more chances but the way this series has gone you know you got to take advantage of the opportunities that you get you put yourself in they just didn't do that yeah and it's the Muncie play was was perfect is his footwork to to field it cleanly spin and pop up in the perfect throwing position. And, one, it's really cool because the Dodgers,
Starting point is 00:27:09 I think it was two off seasons ago, told Muncie like, hey, dude, if you want to be a part of this, like you need to make sure your defense is good at third base. And then where the conversation gets interesting, like his OAA wasn't great this year. And that just, okay, it's one play. But it goes to show that there's more that still goes into the defensive numbers. when you're arguing defensive numbers with your friends are online.
Starting point is 00:27:33 I don't know how you quantify that, but that's a great play in the right moment by Max Muncie. And God, when I watch Dodgers games, it feels like he's pretty damn sure-handed, sure-handed enough to have his consistent 850 OPS or what he brings to the table every year. And they were talking about it before or during the game, how the Dodgers were out there practicing that play,
Starting point is 00:27:56 infield in, throwing runners out at home. Then it comes into the game. the job done. Those shadows are I think another big, big talking point for these games that start at 3 o'clock. Are we doing that again tomorrow? I think they, did they
Starting point is 00:28:12 flip or no? What did they flip? I think they flip. So yeah, it'll be Blue Jays, Mariners at 6, Brewers, Dodgers at 838. I'm assuming, I mean, they got a roof there in Seattle. I don't know what that's going to look like. Not a dome, people. It's just a roof.
Starting point is 00:28:30 It's not closed. It is still freezing. Yeah. But yeah, those shadows obviously played a big part of the game. I think no matter who's pitching, like their stuff is going to play up in those situations. But I just don't think that was, I don't know what the Brewers got to do to get going here. I think, yeah, you tip your cap to the Dodgers pitchers and they've thrown some nasty dudes out there. But today, I don't think Glass Now was at his best.
Starting point is 00:28:58 I know he settled down. You had the opportunities right in front of you and just really didn't cash in on them. And then the Dodgers, I mean, they didn't swing the bat particularly well today either. Shadows, again, probably playing a part in that. But they did cash in on the opportunities they were put in front of them.
Starting point is 00:29:17 Hey, I'll Chris Rose you a little bit. Maybe Tyler Glassnow was at his best, but rarely do we see Tyler Glassnow pitch against someone who's throwing 102 consistently? Dude, Mizorowski looked amazing. He did. And it's, you know, his off-speed stuff plays very much because it's not just guys sitting for 102. It's also pretty good breaking stuff.
Starting point is 00:29:41 When he throws that curveball, that thing actually moves. And it's kind of funny. I don't think adrenaline dumps hurt him as much because it almost, I think it controls him a little more that ends up being okay. Or at least that's what we've seen so far. And yeah, man, he was disgusting that I don't know what you think. I thought it was interesting watching the first game with Jolly that Jolly beforehand, to give him credit, he's like, why are you going to opener? Like, why are you Ashbying?
Starting point is 00:30:08 And Ashby had a clean opener outing previously. So it's kind of like, hey, if that button works, let's do it again. But man, when six pitches in the game, you're down one nothing, because Shohay hooks one. Oh, I mean, that's, that's, that's tough for Ashby right there. It's tough. I get it. And man, I've been maybe a salty Yankee Jake has been out. like show his playoff numbers are pretty pretty not that great but he gets a triple on this by
Starting point is 00:30:37 again a piece of hitting i tell more people they need to do throw the bat at it sometimes if you find yourself in a tough spot because something good may happen no he's so quick right now into the ball i mean like that let's be real here love show hey that's just that's a bad swing right there. It's unlucky. I will admit that, but sometimes you create your own luck, Treff. Oh, thank you. But I do love watching him run the bases, man. Just this big son of a gun getting around there. It didn't matter that Trio kind of bobbled the ball of it. It didn't matter. He was getting to third base. Yeah, that's one of my favorite things is when someone hits a ball, you mentally, when the camera turns back to them, you mentally think about where they are.
Starting point is 00:31:21 Shohei was about three strides ahead. And I was like, man, that motherfucker over there ain't real. Shout out that crazy plane lady. Oh, yeah. What's up with her? I don't know. She was in the mix for a little bit. I think she still kind of is.
Starting point is 00:31:39 I don't know. Interesting. I don't mind them going with Ashby. I don't know why Jolly said that. I know, look, Dave Roberts knew that was going to happen. You know, so he flips the lineup a little bit, gets those two right-handed hitters together. in that first inning.
Starting point is 00:31:53 But I thought, if we can go back to the first, Mookie, runner on third base, nobody out, first pitch sinker from Ashby, that swing in particular, down and away. And he's just trying to touch the ball, but he had a good swing on that. And there's maybe, when you peer a Homer and you pull it and it's a 28-degree launch angle, that feels real nice.
Starting point is 00:32:23 This, that type of swing to me might be the nicest feeling of any swing that you can put on as a hitter. Sinker going down and away from you, and you got to go down and get it. This was not up. This wasn't elevate. This was down at the bottom of the zone. And you stay down on it and stay through it. And all of a sudden you see that ball backspin to the right center field gap. You're like, fuck yes, I am locked in.
Starting point is 00:32:46 When you do that right there, your swing is right. and I don't know I watched it and I pat myself in the back a little bit I've done that a few times in my career and I know the feeling and damn I mean Mookie's just Mookies Mookie's a stud
Starting point is 00:33:03 I know I've been harping on it all postseason you know what that swing looked like Ernie Clement the guy you said looks like the ALCS MVP comparing Mookie to him, the irony sorry Ernst you've been great but no dude There was a runner on third, so Mookie Betts, his approach at the plate changed where he was like,
Starting point is 00:33:25 hey, if there's something I can put the barrel on in a good way, that's all I need to do here. That wasn't a homer swing for Mookie, but it's exactly what you described. It was perfect in that scenario, and it opened up the game, you know, nightmare style for the brewers. They end up matching to tie it at 1-1. And then, yeah, I will say I'm interested to get your thoughts on it. Mizorowski, he gives up the double. He kind of hangs a slider that was the real first blip on his radar at all. Like, he was disgusting.
Starting point is 00:34:00 But then more so, he had the walk after that, that Will Smith gets him on the hanging slider up, which he hadn't left a lot of those. And then I think he walked Freddie after that I, again, on the live stream, I was saying it in live time, I was like, oh, I think you got to take him out because his pitch count and what we've talked about, A, he's not fully stretched out right now, right? Like his roll down the season ended, he's had a couple bullpen appearances.
Starting point is 00:34:30 And these are the most pressure-packed pitches of his life that I think in a tied playoff game with your season on the line, kind of the first time that he shows he's not looking like Jacob Mizorowski, I think you've got to pull the plug there. And hey, maybe you think I'm playing the hindsight card, but, that's where I was in lifetime. I can see that. I mean, I think it's difficult to make that call.
Starting point is 00:34:55 I mean, he looked, like you said, he looked phenomenal. So you really have to be keen on it. And then I think you almost, if you're Pat Murphy, you're like,
Starting point is 00:35:04 I'd rather ride with this guy. You know, your rebate's been good too, but like I just feel like, he probably was saying, I'd rather push my chips in with this hand rather than your rebate. And hey,
Starting point is 00:35:18 if Mizorowski threw a 102 and struck him out, I'm saying, wow, like, good call by Pat Murphy. So you do get to play the result there just a little bit. Like you can't, you can't fault him for staying with Mizorowski. But the third run, too, it's like, man, you can't give the Dodgers an inch. You can't do that. It's crazy, man. Why are we even throwing over to first?
Starting point is 00:35:42 I don't know. Why, there's two outs. Yeah, he struck out, because he struck out to Tosker. Dalje just showed me Rebe hasn't allowed a stolen base. So like, and Tommy Edmund, I think he, um, he has nine over the last two years.
Starting point is 00:36:00 So like really, really, really, really, what are we doing? You wonder, did that come from the dugout? Most pickoffs come from the dugout. Was it on his own? Interesting. Crazy, man. And I think,
Starting point is 00:36:19 Part of the scary, well, A, the Dodgers postseason rotation, a 154 ERA. Oh my gosh, dude. It's insane. And, hey, it's also, it's insane, comma, it's dudes playing to their baseball card. Like, it's not a, I'm not going to name a random pitcher and try to insult them. But all of those guys, that's what they can do on a given night. That I think the lowest postseason ERA with 15-inning since your 1918 Cubbies. good team, good team.
Starting point is 00:36:53 And I think the other part of it, like, Shohay and Mookie haven't been dialed. Coming into this game, they were five for 39 against left-handed pitchers before the triple double off of Ashby. But yeah, dude, Shohay's like, his swings are rough, doesn't matter. I keep expecting him to find it.
Starting point is 00:37:17 You know, he hits BP on the field, comes, gets the ass out, triple. I'm like, oh, that's going to be the one. Like just feeling the ball in the barrel, getting on base, like being happy that can turn. But he's just, he's just quick on everything, flailing, which you see
Starting point is 00:37:33 from time to time with him, like there's some, there's some swing and miss in his swing at times. They haven't needed them yet. They haven't needed them yet. 8 and 1 this postseason. I asked you to chat GPT if there's ever been an undefeated
Starting point is 00:37:48 team in the postseason, LCS and World series and there has not been. Yeah, it was the internet's results. I think Dalton did a double check, but it was like the 76 Reds went seven and 0, so I don't know. And then lost one? How many games were we doing? No, I guess we were just playing seven games there.
Starting point is 00:38:10 Best of five, best of four? That makes sense, right? Best of four? Best of five, best of seven, excuse me. Good call out. That's fair. That's what they're trying, whatever. I know, I know.
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Starting point is 00:39:49 Don't book your vacation to Cabo right now It's dangerous the cartel is saying things Going after American So it's going to be The vacation's coming quick I think the Dodgers are going to sweep I just I just It is a heavy weight right now
Starting point is 00:40:08 On the Brewers And I don't know if they're going to be able to snap out of it man I just I just don't see it happening So when you're booking the vacate just don't go to Cabo. That's my advice for the Brewers. No Cabo. It's grim dude.
Starting point is 00:40:23 Nine hits three runs and three games. Yeah, I'm almost... It doesn't let up. Show Hey, O'Haw Tani is throwing tomorrow. So, like, we're not... And he pitches? Yeah, man. It's dark.
Starting point is 00:40:40 I mean, how could it not be dark? It's... What do you, what do you think they got to do? They got to score runs, Bob? Um, okay, if I'm being honest, I mean, hey, man, there's a world where tomorrow's just guards down for Milwaukee. Like, it's no, it's over, right? So let's go up there.
Starting point is 00:41:01 Let's swing the twig. Let's run into a couple. Maybe we win a ballgame. To go through that the murderer's row of starting pitchers again, Snell Yamamoto Glass now, and that's before adding Shohei, it seems like a near impossibility. It's the David and Goliath stuff we've been talking. talking about. And Treve, got to be honest with you. Okay, put this in the winning Cures Everything
Starting point is 00:41:25 Bucket. Pat Murphy's quotes now? Starting to look like a disaster. Yeah. I don't know how many of our players would be on their team. Yeah. I don't know if they can name our players. Yeah. You get four games swept. That starts to sound real. We didn't even talk about Trio coming out of the game he's hurt is it the hammy are we are we is that what we're thinking here it looked it was strange yeah he's good it was just a pull uh a cramp it was you can't come out of the game if it's a cramp i am sorry dude you stretch that bad boy out you they'll give you some time right he went straight into the dugout into the clubhouse we for a cramp so i if that's the case i'm so like maybe i don't know about serious cramping, but I've had cramps before.
Starting point is 00:42:20 You just stretch it out a little bit and you go back like that. If that's the case, I'm, um, that's right. For one pitch. It is interesting. Hey, a bad cramps, a bad cramp. The way he like hopped off was very dramatic. So again, maybe he was in a darker place and we, we can imagine. You just pull that toe up, right?
Starting point is 00:42:40 Isn't that the universal? Pull that toe up. I've learned a new stretch the, uh, I've, I saw people. doing it and I didn't get it, but it's when you put your, like, heel out and you kind of, like, go through your body and stretch up. Oh, just. What? This was a cramp.
Starting point is 00:42:58 He's going to play tomorrow? Jackson Trio said it's a cramp and he expects to play a game for tomorrow. I can't. I don't. Okay. I'm out, dude. What are we doing? I...
Starting point is 00:43:13 What was a situation when... Was there anybody on base? I tend to agree with you. I'd have to double check. Man on second. Man on second. You're the tying run. Two outs.
Starting point is 00:43:26 You're the tying run. You got the Dodgers bullpen in there and you pull up lame with a cramp and you go straight into the clubbos. That doesn't make any sense to me. I'm not buying that. And if he's in there tomorrow, I don't know. I mean, I just, I'm questioning some things.
Starting point is 00:43:41 Blake Perkins coming in with two strikes. Pretty tough against Trinan. Yeah. again, we... In the house that Kirk Gibson hit a home run limping around in the World Series. Yes, yes, yes.
Starting point is 00:44:01 I'm trying to look for a way to defend it just because I've... I am too. I enjoy this guy. But you're right. It's the NLCS and your seasons on the line that you're not getting rushed by the umpire. No.
Starting point is 00:44:18 That's okay. That's made. be tougher than I thought. I'm trying to find a way out of this for him because I enjoy watching him play and he's a young kid and a stud and he's doing some really fine things on the baseball field. But man. Well, the way to come out of it, win for baseball games. I hoped he goes off tomorrow and he's limping around the base pass.
Starting point is 00:44:43 I don't know. Play it up. Hey, there's my advice for you. Play that shit up tomorrow. Because if you don't, people are going to be all. How about this? He has other hamstring stuff, right? Like that was last series, so maybe it's connected.
Starting point is 00:44:56 I don't know, maybe cramps if your hammies kind of pulled hurt more. I'm fishing a little bit. I'm trying, though, because I like him. Me too. Trev, this is an interesting note. The only 3-0 comeback in a best of seven belongs to the 2004 Red Sox. And there is a very impactful stolen base.
Starting point is 00:45:23 Dave Roberts. By the man who manages the Dodgers, Dave Roberts. So I don't know. Maybe we forgot to read the rest of the script. Would love that. I mean, I don't know. I don't know. I just, yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:37 I mean, dude, some, I think we've gotten better in sports of when you see a 3-0 and you're like, you can dream the dream a dream a little. bit. Like, again, this is crossing sports, but Tatum and the Celtics made a really good run a couple years ago.
Starting point is 00:45:51 He got hurt right at the start of game seven. That could have changed that game a lot. I don't see it, man. I don't, in a sport that I very much believe in, you can't predict and chaos happens. And would, oh, my God, who's, who is Camerena down the line? In a sport where anything can happen, I'm not seeing it. You think it ends tomorrow? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:46:21 I don't know. You know, odds, I think the odds would say that. And like, they also have the, so the reverse Blue Jays right now. When the Blue Jays have something good happen, all their hitters perk up, like the hair on their neck kicks in and it's go time. The brewers are just playing with such,
Starting point is 00:46:42 such non-hope. I mean, their managers saying my guys are shit. Right? Like the quotes are backfiring big time. And also, Trev, hey, we got to be fair. The show's come a long way. We appreciate everyone's support. We try to be real with the people.
Starting point is 00:47:01 Christian Yellich has been very nice to us. His postseason stuff is starting to get tough. I'm not saying anything bad about Yelly. I love my guy. I know. I love him too. He's like a very nice guy. He's been the guy in Milwaukee for,
Starting point is 00:47:18 a handful of years now, that would be a nice thing for them to win one game tomorrow. And then we can do, then we can record a podcast and do a whole, okay, well now if they win another game, but they got to earn that, man,
Starting point is 00:47:33 because it's been, it's been tough to watch. I was just thinking this. We didn't even talk about, like everyone was saying, this is Scherzer's last start ever. He's going to pitch in the world, he's going to start in the world series, right?
Starting point is 00:47:47 I know we're going back to the other series, right? if Toronto wins Trevor, yes. I'm just saying if they make it to the World Series, he's going to start game four, right? Could start game one if they go seven and win it. That's so true. I got to reread the script because I feel like we're missing chapters. God damn it.
Starting point is 00:48:07 Sorry to all the Seattle fans that listen to the end of that. Hey, 5,000 of you in the stream right now. I love every single one. You smash the thumbs up. You've got 69 likes, kind of nice. this live? That's insane. I have a half-eaten wheat gummy in front of me.
Starting point is 00:48:25 A lot of Dodgers fans in here. I'm dripping sweat. It's the first time the room has been warm in three weeks. If L.A. makes it to the World Series. I'm putting the F out there. I'm going to a game. I haven't decided what game yet. I got to see who wins if they're going to have home field or not.
Starting point is 00:48:42 I'm going to a game. I'll be there. Three games in, Brewers. We're talking if the Dodgers are going to have home field. or not in the World Series. That's, uh, that's tough. That's tough. The Dodgers have looked amazing.
Starting point is 00:48:57 So that shouldn't be. People want us to talk about Mookie's Jeter play. It was nice. He was happy. He was having a great time on the field. I liked it. Can you just say Jeter's play one more time? Yeah, it's his play.
Starting point is 00:49:11 It's his fucking play. Um, as I said with Shohay's running test, when they cut to Shohay and he was three strides ahead. where he was. Andrew Vaughn was about a stride and a half. The other direction. Hey, man, that's,
Starting point is 00:49:27 that cat can hit with power, as we've seen. I thought it was going to be a step closer. It's a great play by Mooki. It's a great play by Mokey. Oh, yeah. How old's Mokey? 34? Okay, Mooky Betts age check right at the buzzer.
Starting point is 00:49:44 33-year-old Mooky Betts, you know, in his second season at shortstop, made the move from right field. Don't say 33 like it's old. Just relax right there. It's sports. It's different. Not for the legends.
Starting point is 00:49:56 And Muky Betts is an inner circle Hall of Famer that's on this team and that's part of the reason that they are who we thought they were. The Dodgers got him in free agency, right? Okay. Okay, let's send out some other daggers. All our Boston fans have made it this far.
Starting point is 00:50:12 Welcome to the party. I don't know, man. I think that's all I got. we'll be back tomorrow, Coach. Friday night in the city? We sure will. Oh. I know.
Starting point is 00:50:26 I'll be here. I'll be home. Potentially last two baseball games in one night. Yeah. Whoa. We'll be live streaming tomorrow. Are we doing the six? I think the six.
Starting point is 00:50:39 We've been lean in the early game. Maybe we double again. Who knows? We're crazy. It's crazy because we love you guys. Thank you so much for the support. We'll be live, like Trev said tomorrow, in the episode. Don't feel it at the buzzer. Super chats.
Starting point is 00:50:52 Fayow. Jake Douglas. Jake Sa. Jeffrey A. Thistle. And Wilson Wynn. Appreciate you guys. Live super chats. Kind of forgot we were doing that too. Hell yeah. We're just cooking. World Series? Co-Tuck telling me I need to apply for the manager's job in Minnesota. It's not happen to people. I need 12 years. Okay. 12 years.
Starting point is 00:51:21 Kids got to graduate.

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