Talkin' Baseball (MLB Podcast) - Dodgers Win BOTH Games in LA | 917

Episode Date: October 27, 2024

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Hello and welcome to Talking Baseball. The Dodgers. Take game two. They take a commanding two-nothing lead in the World Series. Yankees, let's go. Yoshi. Hey, Oscar. Hello and welcome to Talking Baseball World Series edition. My name is Jake Storelli at Talking Jake. That is former twins first round pick, Trevor Plouf.

That's future, maybe. Twins first round pick, BPD producing. Welcome to talking baseball. The Dodgers. Oh, Jake, you sound pretty beat down, dude. The Dodgers are up to nothing on my Yanks. And in kind of dominant fashion last night, we'll talk about it with Coach Trev.

Go through that game and we'll tee up the next. And Trev's going to have some interesting insight because he was there in the stands, because he's a seat geek, make sure you guys go to Seekkeek, use code Johnboy Playoffs 10. Prices might be coming down in the Bronx, I don't know. But Seatjongoy playoffs 10, you save 10% off, whether you've used the code or whether you haven't used the code. There's like no, there's no catch. You just download Seekkeek, Johnboy Playoffs 10, save 10% off.

And you could see a game like Trevor Plouf did last night. How was it, Treve? It was awesome. I can't lie. I told you it was my first ever World Series game. I'm not, you know, people, a lot of people in my mentions right now talk about, you never even played it a playoff game. I said, I know it haunts me every day of my life.

But I went to one last night, and it was awesome. I said, like I was telling Chris Rose earlier, it was very L.A. They've done a really good job with, like, the production of the games. Obviously, what's on the field matters, but like, dude, you got to have. fun in between innings and it's the World Series so you have to have some cool stuff happen yesterday they brought out Ice Cube before the game he's just he's just very much in the fabric of Los Angeles and he just walks from Centerfield wraps two songs ends up in the batters box kicking around the dirt drops the mic and I mean the place was pretty hyped up it was uh it was cool to

see and I think the game delivered as well I was a little worried about that because we got such a good game in game one. I was like, man, if I go to a World Series game and it's a blowout, like, it'll be cool, but I want to see a good game. And I think there was parts of it that felt like the Dodgers dominated it, but then at the end of the game, you know, the Yankees had their chance there in the night. So a couple good games out there in L.A., New York down, two games to nothing. But as Anthony Rizzo says, you just got to win on Monday, Jake.

win one game. We'll get there. But let's bask in some Dodger blue for a little bit because they deserve it. They're up to O in the World Series. And let's go through how they got there. You know what I'm saying? The Yankees would try to put the game one walk off behind them as they rode on in the game two behind Carlos, while the Dodgers would play some video games at a fancy sushi place.

Yoshinobu Yamamoto, the former rumor yank twirling it for L.A. Top two, fat guy and a little coat. Tommy boy is Edmund. Homer's off road on. It's 1-0 Dodgers. Top three. He hits home runs. He's the best hitter ever.

Wan direction as Soto goes big fly to tie it up. But in the bottom half, Teosker gets grouchy and Freddie. Freeman, they're going back to back as LA tells New York they're not like us. It's 4-1 after 3. It's stay that way into the knife. Hello, Motto. Yami was yummy. 6.1, 1-earn run 4Ks.

The Yankees bullpen would hold, and the Yanks were trying in their best against Blake. Junk Carlo with the Francia RBI single as he slaps the bag. Good fortitude by the Yankees to make it 4 to 2. faces loaded, pitch hitter, Jose, Jose, Jose, Jose. But Trevino gets under it. It's hazy days in Los Angeles for the Yanks. Dodgers take a commanding 2-0 lead at home. I don't know, man.

It's been a good series, but I know you're feeling a little bit blue. Not Dodger blue, bluer than that. Where do you want to start with this? Do you have to start with Yoshi and what he does? did last night. Yeah, I think so. Yamamoto looked really good. You know, as I was laughing, we recorded talking yanks last night right after we get the raw motion. And, you know, on talking yanks, I said Yamamoto looked good. And there's a couple Dodger fans that are like, goods and understatement. I mean, 6.1, one earned run in a World Series game.

One hit. Absolutely. Absolutely. One hit. The only one hit. The only one hit. The only one hit. Only to Soto. I think the part of that that was Yankees saying Yamada look good is that right now the the Yankees have half of their lineup is empty, the back half. And Aaron Judge, like we've talked about a little bit, makes the top of their lineup able to be navigated. So it's not a shot at Yamato who looks good. You know, he was dialing it up early, saw a couple fastballs at 98.

through a couple wipeout splits, was mixing in the different types of breaking balls. Yamoto looked great. Anything not complimentary towards him would just be a shot at the current Yankees lineup settings. But yeah, he was fantastic. And Rodon, I don't know what you felt. Rodon didn't feel awful. It was kind of two mental lapses for. me like Tommy Edmund leading off the second.

He goes down to O and Tommy clips him. Again, this isn't shots fired at Tommy. Yeah, I'm just from my perspective. And then, uh, dude, he gets two outs, uh, in that third inning. That was the killer, man. Second out being show Hey, Otani that you're like, okay, I'm, I'm about to lock in and mow these guys down. Um, and then the game starts sprinting the opposite direction.

So what, uh, what did you, what did you, what did you see and feeling? in the house. So I couldn't, first inning, I believe it was Yamamoto out there, three two counts, full counts to the first three hitters of the game, I believe. And I couldn't tell, look, I was

directly behind tone plates, so I couldn't really tell like depth. You can kind of see in and out. Was he close, or were those balls not close? Because it seemed like the umpire was kind of tight at first, but that was just from my perspective. I don't know if you remember those pitches, but at that

point of the game, I was like, man, that's three full counts in row. Obviously, he gets out of the inning unscathed, but I was like, okay, like what's, he's kind of got to get back in the zone. And then that's what happened. I mean, he started really, you know, having his location. But in that first thing, did it look like he was shaky? It looked like he was a little overjuiced, man. I mean, he, he came out pumping 90, all of his fastball, 98, right? All of his fastballs to Glaber were 97 or 98, which like, you know, that's, I know he can get there, but that's not normally. his game.

And then in the Soto at bat, he brought the fastball down, 95, 96. And then that was a good at bat. Like Soto spit on two curveballs. It gets to 3-2, and then he gets a curveball in the zone, and he just misses it. So that is what it is.

But, you know, that was a good at bat. Six-pitch walk by Glaver, seven-pitch ground-out by Soto, Torres-the-second. And then Judge comes up. And, you know, it ends up, it looks like an at bat in the box score, but man, he's, I mean, he's going to be

another topic of conversation on this, this episode because he strikes out. And I think this makes the, the standing at bat a little easier. And hey, you know, Giancarlo, you can't say anything about after three, a six, a seven, and a seven pitch at bat, Giancarlo gets a fastball in the zone. First pitch pops it up. So, you know, the first inning is going to be one of your best times to strike. That was a 20 pitch inning. And you really settled down after that. That was it besides one pitch to Soto. Yeah, I think that was that was kind of the game was Edmund hitting the home run, two-o pitch. Rodon tries to come in and Edmund just gets the barrel to it. He's, he's locked in right now, man. And he seems like he's one of those guys who doesn't get caught up in

the moment, which is kind of perfect for October baseball. So what did he hit last night? He was hitting fifth. I love that. Tom Yedman hitting fifth. Getting the freaking job done, I think he's 15 for his last 35, going back to the beginning of the NLCS.

So he's on fire right now. So he's not going to miss that pitch. And he doesn't. And then Juan Soto comes as a great at bat, turns on one. I thought that was so cool. Like, I was with a couple Dodger fan buddies. And as LA's resident Dodger fan now, I've converted over for the World Series.

I started cheering when Juan Soto hit the Homer. I forgot. It was just a cool moment. Dude, this is Juan Soto. Like, great at bat turns on one. And I had the Dodger towel. And I started waving it. And I was like, wait a minute.

I can't be doing that. But I like good ball. Jake, that's all I like is good ball. I know. I turn and told my fan, I said, dude, we just saw one of the best hitters. ever we're going to see hit a home run in the world series. How cool is that? So that's where I'm at with all this, but I, you know, whatever.

But then it was the next inning. You know, like you said, two outs. You get Shohei swinging, and they got him swinging on a nasty slider. He looked horrible. And it's like, okay, two outs. And then Mookie gets on. And then Teo, who they bump up in front of Freddie because they're facing the lefty. One of the prettier swings you're ever going to see right there.

I mean, shooting that ball out to right center was great. The place was going nuts. And then before you know it, you see Freddie Freeman do it again. And that was, to me, get the 4-1 lead. Yoshi really settles in. And then, you know, innings 4 through 7 kind of felt like a breeze. There wasn't much going on there. Yoshi started to really, like I said, you know, feel comfortable, settle in.

And you're right for the most of the game, it felt like the Dodgers were going to blow it open at some point. They didn't. and the Yankees did make it a game. But for a while, it felt like a, not a mismatch, but it definitely felt like the Dodgers were going to win the game no matter what. Yeah, and I mean, a couple things between Rodon and, you know, Dave Roberts pressing those, the Dodger buttons. Like I said, Tommy Edmund was 2-0, fastball in the zone.

You give an MLB guy a 2-0 count and a fastball in a zone. Your risk has gone up. Tommy runs into one there. And then, yeah, man, I guess something that, you know, again, for talking Yanks and even talking baseball, you like to record when the emotions are fresh. That's when people feel it. Something I'd kind of forgotten. And, you know, with these games being close and the ripple effect, coming into this game,

Carlos Rodon had great numbers against Mooky Betts. He was one for nine. Mookie Betts was one for 19 career off Carlos Rodon. He gets a single in the first inning And then a pass the baton single with two outs That sets up those two home runs That yeah, that second at bat he gets behind A 3-1 count

Four seamer over the plate And the first at bat was weird Because Rodon who's such a heavy fastball slider guy He threw a curve and a change-up to Muky And he gets beat on the change-up Which is just really odd I mean, a guy that you have that much good history with in the first inning, messing with your third and fourth pitches.

I'm sure they thought they had something, but, you know, in hindsight, that's tough to look at. Yeah, you know, I mean, look, I think the one for 19 is very interesting. But whenever you're dealing with a guy like Mookie, I feel like I almost throw those numbers out the window. I don't know. He's a league player like that. Yeah, he's mokey bets.

We keep saying that about a couple of players in this series. They're going to, you know, they're going to, you know, get out of these slumps, whatever it is. And I think, you know who we're talking about a little bit. I even texted you guys. We're talking about Aaron Judge now, which is, like you mentioned, you know, it makes, you guys have brought up really good points about the lineup. I was not on your side about switching things up because, look, this is Aaron Judge. And, you know, some would consider it a small sample size, although the sample size, although the sample size. is growing and the

post season is shrinking. So like maybe something has to happen here. Right now he just, I mean, 3Ks last night, 0 for 4. The one, I think it was his bat in the sixth inning. He gets 2-0

and he takes a fastball out over the plate. 94. 94 out over the plate. And he takes it. And I was like, whoa. You don't, you just don't see that, dude. Not from a guy like him takes it, waves

at a slider, waves at a splitter, see you later. And I texted you guys right after that. I'm like, dude, what? He really is in a funk right now. He's in between. Jimmy thought he was sitting off speed, but I don't, I'm not so sure he is. I think he's just, I don't he's just not seeing the ball. And there are times

like that when you get into the box. And a lot of it can just be in your head. Like he's like, man, like I'm struggling. But you get in the box. And there are times where you're mechanics, your eyes just don't work. And you feel like you can't see the ball. You feel like you've never hit in your life. And that's where he's at right now. So I'm assuming there's two ways he can go about this. He could take today and say, I'm not doing anything and I just need to get

my mind off the game or hitting in general. Or he's going to get in the lab and hit and hit and hit and hit until he feels something happened. I don't know which one. There's different hitters that approach the game differently, but he's got to figure something out. Like something has to click. And I'm very curious now if it has forced Aaron Boone to get creative with the lineup. And I wouldn't, whereas I guess even before this game, I was telling you guys, you can't really do that. But I think I might have changed my tune, man. Yeah, let's um, let's circle up on that a little bit. bit as we tee up game three because I don't I don't want the Dodger fans going oh they're talking about boy they haven't even got to the end of the game yet um but that that that that inning and that at

bat was huge because that was the Yankees held serve for a minute like the game was getting scary they're going to their bullpen you know if the Yankees give up a couple runs are they going to have to quote unquote punt this game the bullpen holds and in that sixth inning it's Glaber, it's Soto, it's judge. And this is where, hey, it's unfair to judge hitters like this, but I'll tell you the one thing you couldn't have from Glaber was a first pitch ground out. And you got a first pitch ground out. This is the third time through the order at this point.

Third time through, like Yamamoto's pitch count is starting to get up there. If the Yankees' second half of their lineup is very thin right now, that you need something from these guys that Torres and Soto are out on three pitches. and then it was that judge at bat you talk about. So that was one that stung a little bit, especially seeing the next part of the game. Some beautiful baseball stuff as Tim Hill comes in, who was the other option with Nestor Cortez.

He gets an infield pop out and a strikeout, which I know baseball doesn't work like that, but Tim Hill has been really, really good for the Yankees. and the reason they went to Nestor was they thought Nestor had more strikeout potential that that one is an interesting one for both sides of the aisle and then I think we can basically jump to the ninth inning which is brought to you by Mountain Dew Trev because it was quite a mountain that New York laid out for themselves

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Trinan is in. The Yankees did score off of him the other day. Juan Soto leadoff single. Okay. We like that. Aaron Judge. Strike out. Sweeper, sinker, sweeper, sweeper.

Tough man. Guys, the MVP. And especially when you know what happens the rest of this inning, that's a tough thing to look back at. Stanton, rips one down the light and hits the third base bag and pops up. We love that. Jazz Chisholm, kind of an X factor for this Yankees team, has an eight pitch really good at bat.

He had a great at bat. And that hasn't always been his MO as a Yankee. That was a great at bat against Trinan. Rizzo, this is his MO. He is standing on the plate. I think he's just sitting a sweeper. He gave one big hack at one. He ends up getting hit by the pitch off the knuckles.

that its base is loaded. Here comes Anthony Volpe, the chosen one. If you want me to get really fucking poetic, I'll talk about passing on Corey Seeger. I'll talk about all of it. And this is tough because Volpe had a pretty good at bat against Trinan except the last pitch, and that's what everyone's going to remember.

It was a sweeper outside, outside. The first and the last pitch. Yeah. I mean, the first one is a play. But he just, he just, He's trying to, he guessed fastball and it wasn't fastball. He was. Yeah, I mean, hey, it's Blake Trinan versus Anthony Volpe.

Trinan's supposed to win this matchup. And at least that first one is his signature sweeper. Like, it was in the zone for a while and then it's not. Welcome to the World Series, Anthony. Yeah. He starts to lock in. He takes a couple good pitches. He fouls off a sweeper.

Two-two count swings at one pretty far outside the zone. And that's your second out. it's judge, it's Volpe. Trinan's pitch count is up. He's at 30 bullets. They pull him for Vesia. The Yankees pinch hit for Austin Wells, who's had really tough at bats outside of the Kopec one.

Trevino, really good career numbers versus lefties. He sits the first pitch heater, which is like every pinch hitter's trick to pinch hitting. He puts a pretty good swing on it, but it's not enough, Trev. No, I mean, look, again, if you're a Yankee fan, you have to say, hey, we got the trying two nights in a row. And there was some really good at bat.

Jazz had a great at bat. Rizzo, again, I was right behind home plate, and I was like, look at this guy. Like, his elbows are over the plate. And it just looked like he was going to get hit, and sure enough, he got hit. The Volpe, the first swing, I felt like that was kind of telling for the about. I know he came back and, you know, made an abat out of it. but I think trying to

if he throws his good pitches that he is going to get him out. Yes. That was my thought. Like if he makes his pitches,

if he just executes he's going to give Volpe's swinging on one of those sweepers. So it is what happened. You know, base is loaded, you know,

with a chance to freaking go ahead, a ball in the gap you're at. You go ahead in this game. It's that here's what's shocking to me. And this is where I think you'll agree with me

that the Yankees fell a little flat in their pursuit at the trade deadline is where's your depth? Like, where's your depth? Where is like, like, Trino, love the guy, but that can't be your answer off the bench in that moment. I think you got to have someone, hey, man, that's actually like done that a lot. Like, go find someone that has come off the bench and hit like that. I don't care what his career numbers are coming in in the World Series cold off the bench. That's just not an easy thing to do. Right.

So, you know, the depth, the depth really isn't there. And we've seen the depth for the Dodgers now become a focal point because of some injuries. Like they have, I think they did a good job. Tommy admin trade deadline. Yankees, jazz, great, but where's the depth on the bench? I don't know, man. That's what I saw. And, yeah, I mean, 2-0 Dodgers.

And they have looked like the better team. And I don't think that's an exaggeration at all. It's not just because it's up to nothing. They looked like the better team. I know game one was really close. But overall, just like the, I think the bats, they've looked like the better team. Yeah, it's, yes, with the two-game sample, absolutely.

I mean, the Yankees, you know, the Yankees had 10 hits in game one. The Yankees, outside of a couple funky plays, they could have won that game. And I think you would have said that was a fairly matched. game and it was. Last night wasn't. I mean, the Yankees were one hit through eight innings.

And again, a lot of that is compliments, compliments to the Dodgers chefs there. But it's also that the bottom of the lineup has no thump and no fear for the Yankees. Like Rizzo hasn't homered since June or July or something like that. Volpe has two extra base hits since August. And those are the guys that are contributing that Wells is posting. season batting average drops to 098, which, hey man, Austin Wells was electric for the Yankees this year. He's a big part of what got their season in gear moving up to the cleanup spot. My guess would be, this is a guy who's a rookie catching his first full season.

I would guess that he hasn't caught this many games in his life. He hasn't played however many baseball games he's played this year. And that's not shots fired or like a full excuse, but it's probably the reality of it. And then Alex Verdugo, this is a guy that was struggling and there was debates on what they should do with him. And they finally settled on will keep him just for defense essentially. And now the Yankees have put themselves in a weird spot with not calling up Dominguez till later because his defense looks suss. And Murdogo's has been very solid. But the Yankees are going to have to do something because you are right, the Dodgers have been the better team.

Just looking at like, who are the options on the bench? They don't have any right-handers. I mean, John Birdie had played. I mean, you could have pitched Jason in that situation. So the problem that you're alluding to, Trev, his numbers, including the minor leagues, he's much better as a left-handed hitter. Yeah. So.

No, no, it's just a guy that's young like that, he has really limited experience. Trevino, who's, you know, he's kind of a defensive first catcher. I mean, those are your two right-handed options. I just, that's, to me, that's where the problem lies. And I know it got, it's not always going to come into play, but it came into play last night. Yeah, I mean, it's, it's, for me, it's tough to zoom in when they did get dominated that much by Yamamoto and the other. Dodgers pitchers, but in a World Series that came down to the last at bat the night before and this at bat, there's a lot of things that would point to Trevino.

Like, he has a pretty good contact bat there that, again, a single ties the game. And maybe if he gets that hit, it would have been Dominguez for Verdugo, who again, another, a weak lefty bat down there. So, yeah, and that's, hey, I know we've been on a pushing, like, Bring veterans back to baseball. But look at the Dodgers bench. Like they've got all sorts of weird buttons they could press. Like Gavin Lux didn't play in this game.

Chris Taylor comes in late. Like these are not only are, these are guys that have had high profile points of their career. That, yeah, Dodgers, they hold home serve. Banda with another good outing. Vessia gets the one. pitch save at the end. That, you got to wash it if you're the Yanks, Trev. I don't, do you have anything else on this one?

Yeah, I mean, look, the biggest factor I think going forward is what's up with Shohei. I mean, he steals the base or tries to steal a base in the seventh inning, up three runs, which I don't have a problem with. Obviously, in hindsight, you're like, why that sucks that he went and hurt himself. But they're saying he sublocks his shoulder, which is essentially just dislocated it. And you could tell it was either his wrist or shoulder because when you dislocate your shoulder, that's how guys look. They have their hand

like this. That's what they do. I guess, I mean, I talked about this a little bit of Chris Rose. I don't want to be like, I'm not a doctor. Could I have been? No. Was they smart enough? Probably not. But they said the range of motion was good, strength was good. You popped that shoulder back in. It's going to hurt. But I don't think, I don't think it should affect the strength too much. It sounded like it was pretty good. So it's a pain tolerance thing. And with it being the World Series, I'm assuming that they're going to Anthony Rizzo him and give him a little something, something to play through the pain. And I think we'll, I think, I think we'll see show Hey. Like, I can't imagine, unless it's something that we don't know about and we might hear more

later on. But from what we know now, I can't imagine him not being in the lineup. Yeah. I mean, I think the early, return on quotes it's it's looking like he should be there um and yeah you know with a shoulder popping up there's different the the ranges can vary there significantly um if it's not a significant one yeah like he there's yes there should be some some pain there but like you're saying it's the world series and like let's go um and it's you know the kind of the image of you picture like football guys like pop pop put it back in put it back in um a little bit of a different sport here um but yeah that's going to be definitely one of the huge what to watch for us for the next game is show hey

in the lineup and if he is what do those swings look like because he's his at-bats haven't looked too great um i don't i don't know if he's it's two games and he's skied two pop-ups a mile that could have were centimeters away from being two home runs so it's tough to really dive in. You're still the biggest threat in that lineup. Yeah. But yeah, obviously everyone, the world is interested to see if Show Hay is going to be back in it. Let's see. Miggie Rowe, our guy was back in this game.

Do you forget about the Miggie Rowe jazz like stuff? Sure. I don't think Micky Rose forgot about it. No. That was kind of like a big public thing being called out by Jazz. And he stole one away from Jazz last night. I know that felt good. Jazz hit the ball back up the middle and McGee was just like right there, makes the play.

That's just like another like, you know, underneath the surface, you know, kind of rivalry going on right here. You know, Miggie wants to take this. You know, he's not happy with what Jazz said. Jazz did have a L.A. Times Halloween massacre. sweatshirt on to the game last night. And like, I think I know what that's implying. Like, hey, like, we're going to go into L.A. and murder the Dodgers.

I wouldn't do that. Like, why... Why... Why put that out there? I mean, Jazz is either, like... Jazz is either, like, you're king of fashion or you're out. You know, he goes for it. No, I like his outfits, usually.

But, you know, that one... There was a subliminal. message in there. Obviously. Do you see your guy Kyle Kuzma retired from the pregame fit game? Oh, what's he wearing now?

He said he was feeling too much pressure to wear these crazy outfits. He said he's just done. Dude, the NBA guys are crazy. Eighty-one freaking games are showing up in like this designer stuff. Like, I know they make some money, but come on, guys. So it's, I don't know. I think history is kind of going to look back

fondly on Kuzma being like, yeah, if you don't want to, Baseball. You should do this if you like it. They're trying to make that a thing in baseball. And I think guys are like, dude, we play 162 games. Yeah. There are times where don't take a picture of me

when I'm walking into the stadium because I'm tired. I look like crap. I can't imagine. Honestly, playing in today's game, these guys are trying to look balling because they know they're going to get flexed on IG by their team to millions of people. And what pressure there, Pop.

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Shop Tommy John right now for huge fall savings. Get 25% off your first order at Tommyjohn.com slash talking. That's 25% off at Tommyjohn.com slash talk and see the sites for details. Game three, Trev. Let's actually, excuse me, let's do Dodgers first. Yes. Because I think it's a little tidier. They're going to be starting Walker Bueller.

They do have to juggle that they'll be bullpenning game four. So that will be in the back of Dave Roberts and everyone's heads. 2-0 lead. They're feeling pretty good with their lineup decisions. And it'll be Clark for the Yankees. So it'll be the righty. So assuming Otani's in the lineup, I'd assume you'd see the lineup from game one.

What else is there in Dodgerland? I think that's the biggest thing is how is the beginning of the game going to go? If Walker looks good and the Dodgers have a lead, I think they approach it so much differently than if, you know, if they're behind or even even, my thought process is, okay, you know you have the bullpen game coming up. So depending on what happens,

unless if they're up, say the Dodgers are up by three runs, I think, or two runs or even a run. If they're just up at all, I think Dave Roberts gets aggressive with the bullpen, goes with the A guys.

If they're even or down, I think we see like some sort of piggyback situation between Walker Buehler and Brent Honeywell. I think that's kind of what I'm seeing. So it all depends. A game script is going to mean a lot. And Dave Roberts, there's going to be a lot of eyeballs on him

because, like you said, he knows he's got to cover 27 ounce the following day with his bullpen. So you need have to pick, you have to pick a bolt guy with Bueller or you're going to have to say, no matter what, we're going to need a bolt guy

to give us innings in that bullpen game. So to me, it's just game script, how it goes early on. you know, Walker, I'm very curious to see how he's going to look. I think his numbers are a little skewed in the postseason because of the game against San Diego. You know, Tatea hits the Homer, but he was effective after that. And before Tautis is Homer, it wasn't like, you know,

it was a lot of infield hits and misplays and all these things. So I think he's looked better than I thought he would look during the postseason. And, man, I think that's kind of been the story for the Dodgers. before. I said before the series, I think the Yankees have an advantage in one spot. I think the Dodgers lineup is better. I think the Dodgers' bullpen is better, but they have the starting pitching. And so far, the Dodgers have matched or exceeded what the Yankees have done with their starting pitching, and they're up to nothing because of it. So the bullpen is fresh, but I do think Dave Roberts is going to be under the microscope a little bit in his decisions

because the ramifications of game three are going to loom large in game four. So he has to, if you go for that game on Monday and you don't get it, then I can really see the pressure like Rizzo's saying, being on the Dodgers, understanding, hey man, we exposed our A bullpen, things didn't work out.

Now we have another game to cover 27 plus another game on Thursday. You know, it's earn your money time for Dave Roberts. Yeah. And the front office, I should mention that. Right, right, right. all those guys.

Our guy Archer. The game three for the most obvious reasons is massively important. The Yankees need to get a lead and get to Bueller. Well, you have to win. Like if they're the, I want not the dream scenario, but you're right. If they use their A-Pen and the Yankees somehow win that game three, the Dodgers are really in an interesting spot with two games following the

two days. Obviously, the plan is to have a big first inning, get as many off Walker Bueller as you can, send out the depths of that Dodger bullpen, and get the win, try to change the energy of the series at all. And we'll see. I mean, Walker, you're right. Like the Padres, for me, and some Dodger fans weren't happy with me, because, man, they've got, they bring the noise. They bring the boom. I thought Walker's Padres stat line looks a little unfair and at the same time I thought his Mets stat line felt a little too good like the Mets had a couple situations there where they didn't come through

that that stat line could have looked different. Now I know the swing and miss was there and I think something that the Yankees are really struggling with is the big change of speed variance which Walker Bueller will drop some of those big boy curveballs in there which Jack has, which Yamamoto has. So that's definitely something to watch for them as they, you know, season on the line with Clark Schmidt on the bump. Clark has been really solid.

You know, the Dodgers are obviously a different animal, but Clark has been really solid. And, you know, on the Yankee side, it's worry about games three and, or worry about games four and five once you get a win. Otherwise, nothing matters. So that's kind of where they're at. I guess spinning it more to the Yanks. What do you do with the lineup, Trev? We talked about that. I mean, I think Jimmy, when he came on talking baseball,

shout out James for coming on talking baseball after game one. I think he made a good point about the lanes that having Judge hit there now creates. You know, you have a big righty lane there because you can go through Soto and just kind of pitch around him. so you can really go Glaber, Judge, Stanton, and just get your righty matchups, and then down at the bottom, there is a lane of lefties, so it does make it easier to navigate, and the fact that judge isn't performing

kind of makes that stand out even more. So you brought the article up in 96, what Joe Tori had to do. You brought it up, I saw it, and I don't think Joe Tori and Aaron Boone are the same type of manager. so I'm curious to see if he makes that change and moves judge to five as you guys are saying would you put Rizzo at four then well yeah for those for those that don't know um you know teams you tap into your history

to to try to learn what's what's the point of history to learn the previous mistakes or something like that there's a phrase there's a phrase like that um so you don't make the same mistakes twice. I don't know. repeats itself. I mean, a part of that is Joe Torrey also had Darrell Strawberry, Charlie Hayes, like,

you know, he wasn't exactly... In Cecil Fielder, right? Yeah, like he's tapping into some guys. A little bit different there, but oh, big siren. Man, I don't know. It's the popular

debate right now for well, A, it's leave it. And the argument there would be, hey, we're the Yankees. They won two home games. We should have won game one. Like, we're the Yankees, roll the same damn line about their. Judge is going to click.

We'll win that way and then we'll win that way. And there could be some slight merit there with Walker Bueller. I don't love that plan. They might do that and maybe I'm talking myself into it. We talked about this with Stephen Vaux, after he played against the tigers and Hinch and all the decisions those guys were having to make because their lineups are so flexible

and they go for the matchups and they are constantly evolving with who they're putting out there in the lineups. And we said, man, it's got to feel really good for Stephen Vote to be able to just play against Aaron Boone and the Yankees because he knows what he's going to get. And he didn't do a great job with that, as we know. Like he didn't pitch around guys.

We probably thought he should have pitched around. But you can say the same, exact thing about Dave Roberts and the pitching decisions he's had to make. It's easier when you know that you're going to get kind of the same thing. And I'm a fan of that through 162.

I really am. I think that it's important to have your core guys kind of hit where they hit. And then you can mix and match throughout the rest of the lineup and try to get those matches. But your core guys should be where they're at. Now it changes in the postseason because it's do or die.

So... I think I said, I know I said, I was against moving judge, but I might have been persuaded. I might have been persuaded. So the two options that are becoming interesting, some are saying, do you move judge up to two, put Soto at three, Stanton at four, try to spark judge that way, getting more pitches in front of Soto and Stanton? What if they put them at lead off? and it was just Shohei Otani versus Aaron Judge leadoff hitters. Future baseball.

Like, you know. Oh my gosh. Tim, Tim Kirkjian just like explodes. Like, nope, nope. Where's we Willie Keeler?

Kitty Bunt? I, what have Judge Buntz? Oh, my God. Oh, boy. I don't know. For me, Judge is currently getting pitches in the zone.

That's not the issue. He's just not hitting him to move him up and move the other two down. For me, that just feels wrong. I think if the Yankee Nation, if me, John, Bebes, and Joe's got our vote, you'd put Judge at 5. You'd put Stanton at 3 behind Soto, and then you split them. You could split them with Jazz or Rizzo. I think you could go about that either way. I think you got to have Rizzo there.

Yeah, I think there's something there. You know, those are all the Yankees kind of clog the base crew. that I don't know, something about having jazz mixing that up, does something. But if he's behind Stanton and Soto, he can't run anywhere. It's already clogged. Yeah, it's on your mind. He can do something. And then it would be Judge 5 and then the other lefty, Volpe, and then you finish with two lefties.

So you'd have a little more balance there. The Yankees have the Yankees essentially did that with Stanton at 5, which I guess in theory that's an option, but sliding down Stanton just blows my mind right now. I don't have that on the table. And then I guess the only other kind of wild card here with Walker Bueller coming is, okay, say the Yankees, hey, Aaron Judge is their MVP. We're not going crazy. Like he's Aaron Judge.

The Yankees need him to do something to beat the Dodgers. You may not have needed him to be Aaron Judge to beat Cleveland and KC. You need Aaron Judge to be a part of this. You want to bring down the Dodgers who casually signed Teoscar Hernandez for one year just because they're like, yeah, let's win. Oh, he's there? Do you hit the Dominguez button? Because Dominguez, he's a talented kid. He's a switch hitter.

He struggled defensively. He struggled defensively. The argument that you could lay out there is you could defensively replace him. You know, the Yankees are going to have to get to Bueller and they need. runs. So if you can get that in the first five, six innings, then you could put Verdugo in and replace him. I think that's more interesting than maybe the Yankees or the fan base do, because that's a move that can change things without significantly change things, which at least makes it feel different. Yeah. But I don't know. Nobody really knows what they're going to do.

it's if you do nothing, well, A, doing nothing is crazy, but it's the ultimate, it's the ultimate lock your heels in and say, hey, this is who we are, figure it out and let's win at home. And if you do win that game, that refills the testosterone just a little bit. Like, okay, yeah, we're home. Let's win. You're Aaron Judge. Let's do this.

The other thing that I want to throw in with the bullpen game day four, you cannot have that lefty lane at the bottom. That is way too easy for Dave Roberts and the Dodgers to navigate. So I almost want them to make... And Vessia and Banda have looked good. I want them to make game three decisions with a little bit of game four in mind that I do think you need to get rid of that lane at this point because you're giving the Dodgers a free go at a certain point of the game.

And that's in a World Series you kind of can't have that. anymore. Yeah, I get it, man. There's a lot of decisions to make and it feels like to me, you're the big bad Yankees, you're the one seed. I mean, why panic? Why press the panic button? Because that, I mean, it would look a little bit like that if you changed the lineup and you moved Aaron Judge. It would look like panic. But you could also say, well, this is it. Like it's not, it's not panic. It could be strategy and you could look at it that way. And very curious to see what Aaron Boone does because he's, you know, the history, the track record would suggest he doesn't do anything and he keeps his guys where they're at. But is he feeling the pressure to make a move?

Yes, 100%. Yeah. And it's, you know, I don't know if it's pride. I don't know if it's empowering guys, but like, you know, I know it's lefty righty, but Freddie Freeman went down a spot in the lineup after hitting a walkoff grand slam. Like Tommy Edmund hit ninth the first game after winning the CS MVP. You turn on any sports documentary ever about how this team did it. Who sacrificed? Who is team over me? It's a long flight home from L.A. Trev. I don't know. I don't know what they're going to do. I'm excited and nervous to find out. Who, I guess Fat Joe is performing. Nothing is crazy. I swear doing nothing is. Nothing is crazy. I swear doing nothing is.

crazy. I am losing my mind. I mean, true words have never been spoke. Yeah, but Debs, we tell Joe's to have that prepared for if the lineup comes out and it's the same. Yeah, I think our guy, Fat Joe, is doing the double-up performance. Dave Roberts was top step wrapping every word of Ice Cubes today was a good day. So, like, Aaron Boone, you kind of like, you better start learning some Fat Joe. songs, Aaron. So was Verdugo. Didn't help? Verdugo was Bob in the

head, bro. He was like this. It was a really, it was a funny shot of like, damn, like ice cubes getting the crowd going. This is kind of sick. This is L.A. This is the World Series, right? And then they cut and it's jazz and Verdugo just like,

all right, hey, whatever, guys. Go win a ball game. Because if you don't, Monday, it's over. I got two ball games today. I'm about to go coach right now. Wow. A real coach ball game, if you will. Add a boy. Trev, he was in the stands last night.

Didn't see him. A lot of people that are Cole Tucker was there, didn't see him. Coach Ballgame was there, didn't see him. A bunch of people, man. In a good moment of comedy, I believe I could have this wrong. If you guys don't know, Coach Ballgame is who should be teaching your children about baseball. He's the best. Go follow him. The moms like Coach Ball game. Trev, ninth inning.

Our Yankees have been dead. The season's collapsing in front of us. The ninth inning's happening. They go from Trinen to Vesia. Coming out of commercial, they do the coach ballgame taster reel, and he's handing out baseball cards to kids. It's just like, what? Simulation's broken, dude.

Love that. Sims broken. We can be watching that right now. Thank you, everyone. We will see you probably Monday night, I believe. Monday night. Yeah, after the game, we'll get into it. And yeah, it'll either be really sad on one side.

Or we could... Hey, Uncle Rob Manfred, I thought this was supposed to be like an all-time world series. Tell L.A. can't. Judge is getting the juiced balls in Yankee Stadium. Everyone knows that. I need some juice balls. Hmm, my ball is hard juiced. I played through the dead ball era.

Still hit 106. Thank you.