Talkin' Baseball (MLB Podcast) - It's Our 1,000th Episode!

Episode Date: July 2, 2025

Download the DraftKings Sportsbook app and use promo code JMBASEBALLBook your next trip at https://www.bestwestern.comCorona. La Playa Awaits. Be sure to get yours athttps://OrderCorona.comIt’s the 1,000th episode of Talkin’ Baseball and it’s a party! Coach Trev and Talkin’ Jake decide WHO is going to be on our All-JM team for June, Jomboy pops in to read a poem and more!0:00 Intro0:55 Celebration of life today1:45 Nipple show2:40 Trev says thank you3:45 Congratulations video7:00 Jimmy’s Poem13:30 All-JM start17:30 AL 1B20:00 AL 2B23:30 AL SS27:30 Yankee stadium stinks?32:30 AL 3B33:30 AL Outfield39:00 AL DH45:50 NL Catcher47:20 NL 1B50:16 NL 2B52:30 NL SS1:01:08 NL 3B1:03:30 NL DH1:3:45 Is Shohei a better hitter or pitcher1:04:00 Trea Turner vs Lindor - Jimmy comes in1:06:30 NL Outfield1:17:00 NL SP1:19:30 DK Bet the Cycle  Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Hello and welcome to Talking Baseball. It's episode 1,000, a G-no. We're doing all J-M. It's going to be just chaos today. TARPS off. TARPS off. Homers. This is all we hit.

Terrick Scoobel. Homer. Okay. Homa. Homa. Homa. Hello. He just threw a piece of metal at me.

Is that you doll? Hello and welcome to Talking Baseball. Episode 1,000. I am Jake Storelli Trevor Plouf is here Bob's producing John Boy's gonna pop in We've got all JM

And I think You know when they You go to like an old cool person's funeral And they call it a celebration of life I think that's what today is I think today is a celebration of life Coach Trev How are you?

I'm doing great You know I didn't even know It was episode 1000 So I walked out into Magnum condom studios here and it had been decorated with balloons and some streamers. And I'm excited, man. I remember we did our 500 episode, right? This is crazy. And in the blink of an eye, here we are at a thousand. And basically, I just, I feel old. Even though today I look super hip and cool, I showed you my new sunglasses, like, we're getting up there, coach. A lot of wisdom here

on this show. I don't know how many more tarps off episodes are. going to have in me. 35. It's not looking good. There's a reason the laptop's covering the nips. There they are. Hello. Yeah, man.

It's a thank you to everyone. The whole thing's insane from, you know, day one. Me and Jim being like, yeah, let's, I don't know. I guess we'll talk about all of baseball now to meet in your goofy ass at whatever. Is that a brewery in California? It was at the local peasant. The local peasant. How about that?

It's a little harder these days. And we love getting yuck ball with you guys every day. Wait, I want to say thank you. Okay. Yeah, thank you. I really do. You know, after you play, you know, you're at a baseball, a lot of guys struggle with finding something to get into.

And I stumbled into this and found this awesome, John Boy Media talking baseball community that I don't take for granted. So I love, I love showing up and doing the work and we wouldn't be able to do it without our community. So thank you guys. The community, Bobby, BVD did so many ups. Dahl setting us up for success every episode.

Our socials team, uh, that crushes and crushes us sometimes. But you know how the internet is. That's what we got to do. We are the shield. And you know what, Trev, another reason I was kind of happy to go tarps out. A, Summer's here. What are we doing?

B, you know, I got to prove to the people I'm not, I'm not an MLB guy. Like I, you know, I know they're in, but I'm, I'm a do me. I'm saying true to the roots. I'm saying true to us. I'm finally coming out as a Dodgers fan. Everyone was right all along. Thank you. Thank you.

Even though it says Los Angeles Rams on my hat, no big deal. So we've got a couple surprises this episode. we are doing all JM so we're kind of yuck ball throughout the work doesn't stop I don't even know Bob says he's got a video so let's I guess we're going to start with that Jake coach Trev talking baseball team

1,000 episodes congratulations thank you for all you've done for me behind the scenes baseball at large fans all over the world can't wait to see what you guys cook up next looking forward to the next 1,000 episodes you guys are my heroes keep doing it love you boys Talking Jake and coach Trev, congratulations. One thousand episodes of Talkin Baseball.

You both are now officially, hashtag big deals. No, in all seriousness, congratulations on all the success. You guys have turned baseball media, changed it for the better. You've made it a more fun place. And I'm just thankful to have been a very small part of this journey of yours. So cheers to you guys. And here's to 1,000 more. Congrats, Tauffin Baseball.

Thousand episodes is a lot. Me too. So keep it up. Keep the good work up and, uh, roses are red. Jim socks. Smell weird. Jake, Trev. Congratulations on a thousand episodes of talking baseball. It's been fun watching you guys in the first thousand. Look forward to the next thousand excited for where you guys are taking the show. Congratulations. You know it doesn't smell weird. Baseball. A thousand episodes of talking baseball from your fellow podcaster. Congratulations. What an accomplishment. Grinding as you guys do. Best in the game.

Trev, so waiting on that bottle of wine, man. Anytime. Price just keeps going up. That's all right. It's all right. Keep going, boys. Thousand episodes. Congrats.

Best Trevor at Johnboy Media. Because I'm not here. Officially. I'm technically, you get it. You guys complete me. If I lost my left foot, you guys will figure out how to get old. ball coach here a foot.

It takes a ton of work to get to a thousand of anything. The fact that you guys have got to a thousand episodes is absolutely incredible. Couldn't be more proud of you too. The reason is because you guys are good. I hate to say it, especially to you Trev, but you guys are absolutely fucking fantastic at what you do. And I can't wait to watch a thousand more. See ya, boys. Love you.

What's up, Jake and Trev. Congrats on episode 1000. It's been awesome to see the show grow. over the years and you guys do so well just talking ball. So congratulations. And here's to more ball talk. You guys make me want to cuss, you know, but not negative cuss. Like, yeah, man, shit.

Did you, did you hear that episode of talking f- R-rated ball game, but in a good way? We got a foot. A foot for 1,000. episodes i know you guys like round numbers this is a big one congratulations on a thousand episodes two of our favorite people and a very very big big wide world the best baseball folks on the planet you know we listen to every single episode like it's our job we love you guys congratulations on a thousand coach trev congratulations on your thousandth show it's like a hundred eighty two shows for every

Graf's Winbubb of replacement in your career. So many interviews, so much insight. I'm just honored to be a small part of it, and I cannot wait for the next thousand as well. So congratulations, and... Oh, Jake. Congratulations, I guess. I love you.

Both. I adore you. Congratulations. Now get fucked. Oh, a little R-rated coach ball game coming out for us. That's why we don't let him off the leash, I guess, because that's... Now I'm looking forward to Atlanta. Thank you to all those people.

Thank you to everyone. And a big thank you to who's joining us in the room right now. The great Jombino is here. Oh, wow. Speaking of... I don't usually get starstruck. I'm here to recite a poem written by AI assisted by Rob. Are we ready?

A thousand baseballs, each a story spun, from dugout whispers to the crack of fun. Talking baseball hits its thousandth show, a diamond's journey where legends grow. Coach Trev, the steady glove at third, turned stats into stories, never rehearsed. He's the guy guy, the player's heart, where tails and takes he sets apart.

Jake, the voice that rides the seams, quick with a laugh and wild with dreams. He burns through standings, NL and A.L. Finding the spark in every tail. Dalton, the mind behind the stats, digging deep where the numbers sat. He's the researcher, the quiet A.m. bringing the facts to every case.

Jimmy, the spark that started the fire. And BBD, the giggle who wrangled the wires. To the years spent memorizing each roster and the battles fought and lost to the tech monster. A thousand baseballs, a thousand cheers. From fans who've listened through the years. Best podcast. funny, informative, clear.

I sleep to their voices night after year. Edgy, friendly, never too stern. Plenty of insight. Each episode, I learn. With so much content, you stand out. Entertaining, hilarious. There's never a drought. I recommend to all fans, no matter the team,

talking baseball keeps the dream. Through wins and losses, through rain delays, through angry calls and wild plays, you've built a home that welcomes all from coast to coast, a big fan or small. So here's to Trev, Jake, Dalton, too, to Jimmy and the whole crew, a thousand baseballs, and still you go.

Talking baseball, the heart of the show. That's unbelievable. Chris Rose is crying. Chris Rose is crying from that. When you said tech monster, do you mean at the hour 15 point of every show when Tref's computer used to turn off? And we just put up a robot picture of it. Shout out Nina who drew the robot picture of Trev. We just said that was normal.

I forgot about that. I'd like to credit Eminem. We had a lot of fun together, boys. Eminem taught me how to twist words to make them rhyme. A.L. and tail. Yeah. Yeah, the orange door.

I didn't know what you said right there. I just went along. Tail. Tail. It's Cali Treve. Grow up. Oh, my. Take the five.

Get on the 405. Tail that car in front of you. Thank you, Jimbo. Love you, Jim. Congrats. Thanks for being the spark that ignites the flame. Spark. It ignites the fire.

One verse, not written by AI. That one was you. Oh, we're getting a long. of nip right now. Oh, boy, it's a lot of nip. All right. So now we're just going to do a normal episode. Hey, a final one.

Everyone in that video, I mean, Cole, Katie Wu, Glass, T2, Trevor May, passing coach ball game, Kelsey Winger, her baby girl. Who else was in there? Ian Hap. Ian Hap. Asking for his wine. Can I just tell you something? It's a great time to announce episode 1,000.

Okay. Careful. July 8th. Six days from now, I'll be in Minnesota, calling the Twins game versus who? The Cubs. What will I be doing before the game? All right. Finally presenting Ian Hap with his ball of wine.

And he's right, the price won up. I've bought the bottle. It was expensive. Okay. It's been purchased. I gotta hand it to him now I haven't seen Ian Hap Like I haven't been face to face with Ian Hap

And since I believe The spring training house in Arizona Trev that picture If you do it is gonna do numbers I mean if I do it What if I just Hey man I've heard it was gonna happen before And we're full nip again okay

Okay no arms up this episode Thank you to everyone. Let's do all JM. You guys are the best to a thousand more and more tarps off. And hey, if you can't afford the stuff Trev's getting, why don't you be like me? I had a couple of these last night, a couple coronas, because that's what goes best with baseball,

kicking back, ordering some coronas and enjoying the ride together. Man, it's Canada Day yesterday. I don't care if you're in the Great North. care if you're in the U.S. of A. I don't care if you're south of the border. I want a corona wherever I go. Turn the cheap seats into your own private island with some ice

cold coronas. Start off at a ping pong bar yesterday. Little leaders offsite, whatever. And then it turned into jakey coronas. Crack open a corona. Squeeze in a lime. Enjoy America's favorite pastime with Mexico's favorite present

time. Get yours at order corona.com. 21 plus. responsibly Corona Extra Beer imported by Crown Import, Chicago, Illinois. Oh, yes, Trev. I was praying. I call those dinosaur glasses. Should I not call them that? What are they? I think they're eyeballs. So I don't know. They're just up my glasses. What do you mean? I don't know. I thought for some reason they had like dinosaur eyes. I don't know. Weird. Hey, let's do some All Jam and then me and Trev, we're going to list our top thousand moments in the show's history. All J.M.

That was a fib. Trev, we'll start off in the American League. If you're new to AllJM, what an episode to be new to. I'm Jake. You just met a whole bunch of our friends. AllJM, just a reminder, this isn't the best players in the month of June.

It's the best players throughout this point of the season. We give pedals. If you get it every month through the year, you can get the Silver Daisy. And we track it. So when you were the best player in April, you got it. That changes from April to May for some positions.

It's going to change again as we just finished up in June. And Trev will start, yeah, I'll just, I'll rattle it off quick. Last year's, or excuse me, last months. So through May in the American League, Cal Raleigh, Jonathan Oranda, Glaba Torres, Bobby Witt, Jr., Jose Ramirez, Aaron Judge, Byron Buckson, Stephen Kwan. Rafael Devers, don't think you'll see him back. Jacob Wilson got the fan vote last month, Trev.

And Terek Scoobel on the bump. In the National League, Will Smith is happening, people. Freddie Freeman at first, Brendan Donovan at second. Geraldo Pardomo, the captain in the shortstop. Mani Machado at third. James Wood, PCA, and Kyle Tucker in the outfield with Shohei Otani at D.H. Corbyn Carol won the fan vote last month. And Paul Skinesse, Skeens.

I saw him messing around with the grounds crew the other day. He was the best pitcher in the National League. So, with all of that, any final words before we dive in, Trev? It's been a roller coaster this year in All Jam. I'm looking right now, the people that are up for Silver Daisies, Kyle Tucker won, fan vote and then was a starting out of the show. He is still in the running, although it's a little wonky,

but he's still in the running for one. Brendan Donovan at second base in the National League. And then other than that, it's Aaron Judge, Cal Raleigh and Shohei Otani, which makes a lot of sense. Yeah, and this, again, going back early, you know,

with the JOM days, the concept was all-star games, don't always tell the full story. And I think a year after we started doing it, I think MLB started doing their, they're like all MLB team. So, you know, some things have their prestige level. And that's what we have here.

And Trev, I think there's good news in the American League, and you think there's good news in the National League that you think a lot of boys have run it back. And with the American League catcher, the storyline of this season, big dumper. Calarale has been one of the better players in baseball this year, snaps for him, platinum glove wins, He's, you know, his at-bats right now are so fun to watch.

Like, he's, you know, obviously he, he's just locked in right now. The mechanics are there. The switch hitting ability. Everything is, he's starting to get that star treatment, too. We're starting to see the intentional walks come through. But he's just made, I mean, without Cal Raleigh, the Seattle Manors are saying the same old thing. We're not scoring enough runs.

We're not in the playoff dance. But Cal Riles put the team on his back. He sure has. And even the other, the young guard at catcher, Narvaez, Alejandro Kirk, Dylan Dingler. If you added up all three of their homers, it doesn't catch Cal. What he's been doing has been so special.

Congrats and snaps to Cal Raleigh of our Seattle Mariners. Treve, at first place, I'm interested to see if you've got any pivot in you. Because Jonathan Aranda, who won it last. month. He also, in the month of April, it was Spencer Torkelson, who's still lurking. He's hitting the home run ball. I think it comes down to Aranda and Vladdy, and I think Aranda is the pick. Everything's just a tick better. Yeah, Torkelson's had a really tough month of June. His numbers have gone down. I do think it is Vladdy and Aranda. If you're looking for, like our typical stats that we love. Aranda is

very close to 345 and he's in 327, 407, 496 right now. I don't love the K percentage with Aranda. It's up there and that's kind of what I see when I'm looking at Vladdy's numbers. You know,

the OPS is a little bit below Iranas, 841 for him, 903 for Aranda, but what I do love, Jake and you know this gets me going. 47 walks to 49 striking. We're almost one to one there for Vladdy. Vladdy does have him in homers.

He does have him in runs. He's got him in doubles. He's had a few more plate appearances. Not a ton. He's only had about 30 more plate appearances than Aranda. I'm kind of stuck on this one. This was one of the only ones I thought that was tough for me. I'm leaning Aranda, but I'm open to being sold on Vladi.

For me, it's Aranda. Neither of these guys known for their glove right now. And I, you know, yes, Vladdy has the two homers and the runs. For Aranda, it's hits RBI, batting average, on base, slugging, OPS. I know a lot of those end up overlapping. Weighted runs created plus. So close. Waited runs created plus if you're into that, 159 to 138. Both of these guys are out there to hit.

I think no names if you just showed the stat lines. I would want Aranda stat line that that's where my vote's going. The only thing keeping me in on this is that Walsh's Strikeout ratio. It's so sexy. It's nice. I get it. Snaps for Aranda. He continues.

How about that? A sneaky part of the race success this year has been him. Huge part, yeah. Right. From basically start to finish. The American League's second base with a little bit of funk. It started with young Christian Campbell, light in the world on fire.

His season changed pretty quickly that Glaber Torres won it last month and the American League second base position. Brandon Lau is charging. He's hitting a lot of home runs. Jackson Holiday is contributing, but it looks like Glaber is essentially going unopposed right now. I'm in on Glaber for this one. Nobody's like super running away with it having a great season.

Obviously, Glaber, what he's meant to that Detroit lineup can't be understated. He's been as consistent as consistent can be. You know, when Torkelson started going down in June, Bayez kind of picked it up, so he picked up the slack there.

But Glaber has just been right around that 800 OPS every single month. And being the consistent threat in that lineup, The only one I would consider, I guess, would be B. Lau, but he's just, he's behind Glaber and all the counting stats. And, you know, the slash line ends up being really, really similar. 817 OPS for B. Lau, 823 for Glaber. But the counting stats are just, well, well. Yeah. Yeah.

Whoa. It's close. It's closer than. I think I was reading this wrong. Uh-oh. All the way over because I was thinking B. Lau's counting stats were Glaber's counting stats. Okay.

You voted for Glaber already. So I've got a couple things. I mean, Brandon Lau, after a horrible April, 581 OPS, has been in the nineth the last two months. That's how we got here. The only other thing that I would say for Glaber is that Brandon Lau is platoon. versus lefties this year,

a 539 OPS 899 versus righties. Glaber, let me double check my stats. And hey, I don't want to use your own ammo against you here. Yeah, I've seen a walk to strike out. Check out that walks a strike out. Glaber 980 versus lefties, 769 versus righty. So I don't know. understand everything you're saying right now

that maybe this isn't 18 homers to 9 B. Lowe. 52 runs to 42 runs, B. Lowe. 49 runs driven in to 43 for Glauber. Right. Neither of them steal bags. Two stolen bases, four stolen bases for Gleiber.

Well, Brandon Lough plays at a little league stadium for his home games, you know? I mean, that's spring training facility. Oh. call it Little League I'm kind of stuck on this one I almost want to go B. Lowe and call somebody in

I think this is the first time we've got to do it of the up. Okay. John Bino's there. Let's Mark B. Lowe Robert Dalen, if one of you could light the eternal Johnboy flame. His glasses are hard to see

out of people. I'm sorry. And I thought the ale was going to be easy. It's going to be a chunky up then. Let's see. What comes back with that. Shortstop might be a disaster then. Because I see your guy, J.P. Crawford, getting on base. Gunner's charging.

It's been Jeremy Pena and Bobby Witt, Jr. And Trev, it's been Bobby Witt, Jr., which I haven't fully agreed with along the way with how good Jeremy Pena has been. He is now hurt. Bobby Witt, Jr. has won it the first two months. The John Bino has entered the chat. The headphones are on.

Who's one at the first two months? We're talking, that was shortstop. That's by way. We need you for second base AL between Brandon Lowe and Glaber Torres. Wow. Equal games in that bat, so that's fun. A little. Counting stats favor B. Low.

Little homers versus strikeout favors. Glabors on base is killing him. Glabors got 386 on base. Look at the walk to strikeout. It's in control. I love when Jimmy says. head gets going. How bad is their defense?

Neither of their strength. Glaber is right now, just right in the middle of the pack, a 52nd percentile, zero outs above average, not really doing it on the basis. No. And I'll get you Brandon Lowe. He's a sleepy guy on the bases. Brandon Low is also not doing it.

He's negative 9. He's the worst second baseman in baseball. defensively according to outs above average. It's not good. I'm checking my difference maker, empty games. Empty games. Glaver's going to win that one for sure with those walks,

I'm assuming. You would think, but Beelow has more hits than him, it says. Brandon, the other, I know a piece of information you look for, he's been a, he's been bad versus lefties. Oh, Glaber historically split-proof.

Hopefully that's crushing lefties. He's been solid versus right. I'm going Glaver. If the defense and the base running is bad for both, then I'm just who's, I'd rather at second base get consistency and balance.

And Brandon Lough, B. Lau is loud. That's how I remember how to say his name. He is really bad against lefties. We're Glaber is split proof. So Glaver, you know as a fan, hey, he's going to give us something today offensively

where Low, you know, if it's versus a lefty, you're kind of like, well, it's not his game, but I'll help us out tomorrow. I'd rather have the Glaber bat. I'm fine with that. If Beelow was a much better defender, that would push him ahead than this. But I like the consistency.

So I'm going Glaibur. Jim, I have a little bonus good news for you. If you remember our betting episode before the season, one of your was B-Lau-Low homers, and he's been, for two months, he's been rolling. Well, 12 at home,

short porch. Trave just called the Little League field. No, I didn't. I said it's a spring training facility. It's not even that because it doesn't have any fun to it. It's just like

corporate training facilities are not fun. They should be. That's a great point by you. None of them are fun. Well, like look at the crowd in Sacramento. At least they're not just like roasting in daylight. Oh, they are.

Yeah, but there's grass. It's very hot. They can sit. Look at the outfield and we've been in that outfield. It's concrete hallway of all reflective cement. Everything's concrete. You guys just need to like mix in some wood or some stone or something. Yeah, I agree.

Like give me some bricks. Give me something that's not just a slab of cement. That stadium is, I mean, we've been saying this since we went for the first time. Just sell that stadium to the raise already. Don't get me started on Yankee Stadium being a replica of the old. Thank you, Steve. Never understood that. Well, OSHA fuck that up.

You want to replicate old stadium? Is that what they were going for? I don't know. What? What? I thought you were saying it's not a replica. No, it is a replica. I was saying, is it, that's what they wanted was just consistency in pictures

throughout the years or something? I don't understand. It should have been a badass stadium of all time and it's not. Well, I mean, the field being a replica is cool. The outside they botched because they went. they went too like Dallas Cowboy style like too big two suites

not enough that open concourse style is really nice like what city field has and Detroit has that I think since he has that too even though they're kind of small since he's crazy small I didn't really realize that until the Yankees went there and I was looking at it

okay um yeah Yankee Stadium is only good because of the fans in the environment Like if you go there I went to we went to we went to Wrigley And they did not play a game And it's still awesome Yeah

And we went to a Pirates game And there was we were one of 20 people at that game It was still nice Yankee Stadium If you go there and it's not a good atmosphere It's not not anything I respect Yankee fans For making that place what it is

Yeah Thank you Treve Thank you Jim Congrats to Labor Congress to Glaber No one can play second base Yeah, right. It's become one of those positions.

There's one man in Arizona. That's about it. Tori Lavello. It might be a long app today. Well, Trev. Yeah, what is happening? Hey, that's beautiful. That's what this city used to be about.

Congrats to Labor. The shortstop position. Trev, I'll let you go on paying your wit because you fought for wit last time. Pena is toe to toe with him some of the metrics like him more he is also hurt what do your eyes I see

this one to me is going to go to Jerry Payne I mean he just got hurt I think he played his last game at June 27th or something like that but as consistent as he's been throughout the season I also didn't know he had wheels like that like he's got some 97th

percentile speed he's a beast and that usually would be a separator for Bobby Wood Jr. You know, he's going to steal bags. The percentage for Bobby Whit, not great right now, 21 stone bases of six caught stealing. It hurts me because this is going to take away from Bobby Witt's ability to have

the Silver Daisy unless he wins the utility vote. But I think I'm going Jeremy Payne here. I fought for Payne you last month. Bobby Witt's last two months, a 779 OPS and 829 OPS. Jeremy Payne's last two months 898, 919, 361 batting average last month, the way he plays defense

and runs. Congrats to Jeremy Pena, who has become the star player that we've discussed. I think I said that early in the air, like Jeremy Penae can be a star in this league, and people were just like, what are you talking about?

I don't know. Look, he's, dude, he's... Right now, batting run value on Savant, 89 percentile, base running, value 89 percentile fielding 85th. I mean, that's all, you know, well, well above average, almost into the elite category. He has been elite this year. He hasn't, he hadn't showed us this yet, and now he is, and if this is it. And I mean, dude, another, how many times, Houston's on top, Houston's on top, Pena and Peraezas, man.

Congrats to Jeremy Pena. Maybe we'll see if young Jacob Wilson sneaks back in the fan vote or something like that. Bobby Witt, maybe. I don't know, because I think he deserves it. We'll get there in a second. We've got to go to third base, and at the AL third base position, coming up, it has been Alex Bregman, as he had one of the most dominant aprils we've seen. And then the old classic, Jose Ramirez, locked it down last month. He is fending off the new guard. Look at Junior Cominero. Look at Mikel Garcia from Kansas City has been lighting it up this year, along with ESOC Paredes.

I will cast my ballot first. It's still Jose Ramirez, though, because he's that guy. This is a tough one. Really? I'm going between Mikel and Jose Ramirez here. I love, actually, they're batting average exactly the same, 309 through June. So the OPSs are lining up, you know, almost identically. 846 for Mikel Garcia, 871 for Jose.

18 swipes for Mikel, 21 for Jose. I mean, the numbers are are pretty close. The only thing that you're looking at here is Jose's got him by five home runs. He's got, you know, a little bit more of the counting stats in runs. But this is really close. I'm surprised you cast your vote so quickly for Jose. Well, Trev, you, I mean, you're sneakily saying every reason. J-Ram kind of has him in everything.

Like the five home runs, if you want run, sure. Stolen bases should show up as net stolen bases because Garcia's been caught nine times. J. Ram's been caught five. So you see a three stolen base difference, but that should be a seven stolen base difference. And then J.RAM has them in pretty much every percentage. Well, I shouldn't, like you said, batting average.

The on base is super close. The slugging it ticks up that the OPS ends up putting them 30 points apart, that it's Jose Ramirez. I think sometimes we get bored of the same thing sometimes, and I'm happy that Michael Garcia has turned into who he is,

but it's J-Ram. Sounds for J-Ram. Close one. Close one. Comanero keeps hitting home runs. The story can change very quickly. 21 of them. I see your walk to strike out, YSach.

I see it. he's been seen he's playing at the right stadium this year and Alex Breggman's numbers are still in the mix and he hasn't played in like a month so let's go check in with that next month

the American League outfield Treb's American League if you're new to the show you need a center fielder the past couple months this is where the ale is fun the center fielder was Cedric Mullins in the corner

corners were Aaron Judge and Whelier Abrae. Last month in the outfield, Byron Buxton, the buck stop in center, Aaron, Judge, and right, and then Stephen Kwan got the other corner outfield position, or outfield

after you have your center fielder. Trev, I will take the theatrics out of part of it. Aaron Judge and Byron Buckson are back. Byron Bucston has been so freaking good this year in all facets of the game still has not been caught stealing i believe it's 15 swipes on the year the defense is unbelievable last night twins stink right now they're getting out or maybe the marlins are just they are that good because the way they're playing right now he didn't rob a home run but he robbed the home run he went up the wall and like stopped the ball like ricocheted off of

one pole was going to ricochet out and be a home run but like got the glove up to swipe it back down to the field. I mean, just he's been incredible. So yeah, he deserves 100% to be the center field. And I hope he starts in center field in the All-Star game as well. And I'm trying to convince him to do the homerun derby. Oh, a little behind

the scenes. All right. So yeah, him and Judge, obviously what Judge is doing. I don't know. If you want to put the numbers out there, pop you can because they're pretty eye-popping. 1175 OPS. He's slugging 717. That's higher than my career OPEA. Oh, you didn't have to.

Same, to be fair. So, Judge and Cal, we talk about them a lot for a reason. Trevin, the third outfield spot, I'm very interested to see where you're going. There's a couple guys. Stephen Kwan's been there. I don't know if he's in a discussion right now. I think for me, it's between Julio Rodriguez, who, you know, he's been showing up for the Mariners this year. the offense usually ticks up in the summertime it's it's been league average this year but what he

does you know on the base pass and also out in center field is pretty impressive i think my lean here though jake is riley green he's been absolutely smashing uh the ball as of late um over the last 14 last 28 days so last month uh 348 3992 640 for the one dollar 032. He's another guy that's just kept the tigers and their run going. So I think I'm leaning there unless you can convince me otherwise. Treve, you nailed it. And it feels like he's getting a little more comfortable in left field. People were kind of waiting for that to happen. The OAA is fine. And he's hitting in a different tier than the other options. He's in a, Riley Green's OPS is 887. Julio 721.

one. Like that is a different at-bat for the pitcher, for the hitter, for the team. Yeah, even Kwan, how much I love him. Wheelier's been out. Joe Adel is on the list and we're happy for him. But I think it's Riley Green and he's, I mean, is he the best player on the best team? He could be. Carrie Carpenter's got a nod for that.

Scoobel's probably the best player. He's a pitcher. But he's a pitcher. Trev. I mean, what? In June, Joe Adele, 293, 375, 6663 for the one daughter. 11 homers, 19 runs driven in. It's very reminiscent of 2012 T. Teep Plouf.

Congratulations to him on being 2012. They're not good enough. I feel you, bro. Teap's. You're at Saurail Outfield, which brings us to the designated hitter position the D.H. Tyler Soderstrom

for those A's. And, or excuse me, that was the fan vote. Have A's won the fan vote? The first two months? What year is it? D.H was Tito Polo.

Jorge Polanco, the first month of the season went nuts. And then it was Devers. So we need a new guy. The Yandi man, Yandi Diaz, has entered the conversation. conversation. Ryan O'Hern, Ben Rice and Brent Rooker. O'Hern has played some corner outfields and first base.

Where are you, Trev? I don't know with this. This is another, like a couple of positions have just become such a revolving door. We don't have a ton of just DHS anymore. We don't have a ton of second basements anymore. And it's kind of like showing up in the splits here. I think it's between Ryan O'Hern and Brent Rooker. For some reason, I want to lean Brent Rooker. Some of the counting stats point that way. I know what Ryan O'Hurin has meant to the Orioles, but where are the Orioles in the standings? You can say the same thing about the A's.

But if we're not leading a team to the playoffs, then I think you just kind of have to go statistically here. I know Rookers played more games than our games. Ehron, 87 games for Rooker to 71 games for him, but, you know, the counting stats are there. He's got more hits, got more doubles, got more triples, got more homers, got more runs, got more runs driven in. I think it's Brent Rooker. Brent Rooker has more everything.

And it, hey, it's, it is a little bit of a shocking game gap. 71 games for O'Hern, 87 for Rooker. I think, again, there's some lefty, righty, split stuff there that he's a different player. But yeah, I think sometimes it's just simple as, okay, if all the percentages are basically even, like, eight more doubles, six more homers, 20 more runs, like, it's Brent Rooker. Snaps for him. And man, he had his whole thing where it happened. He became like this little social media, little Jesus Jake, social media star. I called myself out. It's, it's, it's right.

I don't know. And then it felt like he got your donned a little bit last year. He is a dude in this league. He got paid. Like, we love it for Brent Rooker. Yeah, I'm happy for him.

Where'd he come from? Minnesota Twins. Oh. Under my tutelage, obviously. That's right. July 2012. Congrats to Brent Rooker. Three DHS as we've snuck along

this season. All right. Who do we need to? to open up the fan vote for Trev Bobby Witt, right? I think Bobby Witt's in there. I think we can throw a Vlad probably in there as well. I love it.

Is that really an outfielder that I'm loving putting on there? So I'm like, is there a catcher that we need to put on? Like, is anybody I don't think so? You talk Nerva's a little bit. You talk dirty to me there. Between him and Kirk, I don't know if I could pick

that I like Vladdy, I like Bobby Witt. I'd either say Michael Garcia or Julio. Let's go Michael. Let's do it. Let's get some fresh blood in there. Okay, so make sure you guys go check out the fan vote. And then to finish the American League,

we need a starting pitcher. Pitcher's always nasty with this. You've heard it in my voice throughout, if you've been with us for these episodes because it ends up looking so much the same Hunter Brown got it the first month Terrick Scoubel got it the second month him freed crocheted

de Grom Jimmy was a pretty firm back in the day he didn't want a pitcher I'm getting closer to that every day because this is just brutal picking one starting pitcher is ridiculous brutal right it's easy now oh

I think Scoob's is running away with this I don't even think it truly is close. I mean, he's got the low... Of all these guys we're talking about, we have Hunter Brown, Boobick, crochet, de Grom, Fried, and Scoobel on our list right now. He's got the lowest whip.

He's got the lowest walks per nine. He's got the most strikeouts per nine. Like, what are we doing here? There's a Hunter Brown conversation. He's got one more quality start. The ERAs. is lower that

I don't know I'm Terrick Scoobles 11 more innings I do value that that they are splitting hairs they're splitting hairs I I mean

we're not saying these guys haven't had a great run Hunter Brown's been awesome crochet has been incredible look at what Jacob de Grom has done and that's I mean I almost want to put him in the fan vote which we could put a pitcher

But to me, Scoobble is the best pitcher in baseball right now. I don't think anyone's going to argue that. I mean, there's some dogs out there. You can talk National League and Skeens and Wheeler and what they're doing. All the guys we just mentioned, great pitchers, aces. I think there's one guy right now in the league, and I think it's Terrick Scoobel. Terrick Scoobel, Max Fried 13 quality starts. Put Scubel on the piece of paper.

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and got the nod. Will Smith finally got his. first pedal, which is just insanity. And he is currently fending off William Contreras, who's been around it. Hunter Goodman. Send Hunter Goodman to the All-Star game people. I had the glitch in my DMs about it. Whoops.

Augustine Ramirez appearance. Hello. There's got to be a reason the fish are winning games. Trev convinced me it's not Will Smith because it is. It's Will Smith. Congratulations. Yeah, I mean, Hunter Goodman, what he's done in Colorado is awesome. I think he's probably going to be their All-Star representative.

William Contreras, the offense really isn't there right now. 706 OPS. Will Smith. He's a catcher, people. He's three, four-fiving it. 3-18, 413, 532 for the 945 OPS. He's a fucking catcher. Yeah.

Yeah. Well done. Powerful. Yeah. Yeah. Bia! Bia! Grats to Will Smith.

Back-to-back wins. At the first base position, Trevor, you're seeing this clearly, you made it sound like. Pete Alonzo won at the first month. Went nuts. Freddie Freeman. Got it the last month. It's the battle between those two.

Josh Naylor has been fantastic. Michael Bush, Matt Olson. Dating daughters along the way. and if you're a war person, there's some conversations there. Trev, I'm lost. I'm leaning, Peter Lonzo.

Freddie Freeman has absolutely nosedived in June. It just has not been a good month for him or mooky. Like what's going on there? 557 OPS after one dotting it the first two months of the year. Pete Alonzo's been a steady. as you can be. He leads all these guys in homers and runs and runs driven in

and how about this. Lapping the field and hit by pitch is 11. That helps me on base percentage out a little bit. So he's 291, 380, 544, 541 for the 921 OPS. He leads all the first basement in that category as well. I think that we can't overthink this one. I think it's Pete Alonzo. He's doing it.

You're right. I think some Atlanta people could raise up and give a Matt Olson and the defense, Trev. You're talking about it on the broadcast. Pete clears him significantly enough in pretty much every offensive category. Atlanta fans don't want to say anything nice about their ball club. Yeah, that's true. That's true. Congrats to Peter Alonzo.

Either, though. My gosh. Yeah. What's going on? Baseball is a little kooky. I like it. Cuts to us right now. If you can't run the bases the right way and aggressively,

and you can't play defense, guess what? Sometimes it's bad baseball. It shows up. Don't tell that to the Yankees' analytics department. No, just hit a three-run homer. It's really easy to do that. It's the best. You don't got to take the extra base.

Why? Defense. Josh Naylor, 10 stolen bases. Straightouts and home runs, bro. 10 stolen bases out of the. the Cheshire Cat. I love, I freaking love him, man. Dalton's in the room, and I think he's coming to grips with this,

but Josh Naylor on a playoff run team, Seattle, somewhere else, gets interesting quick. Oh, no, don't, Dalton can. That boy backwards hat, too, is just... No, he didn't say anything. He didn't say anything. He said congrats to Pete Alonzo. Second base, I'm interested to see how juicy Lucy you get on me.

Because the National League second base position has been Brendan Donovan. Just slapping the ball around the yard, that Cardinals offense. Mm-hmm. But there is a literal snake in the grass. Ketel Marte is behind on games, but dasit. The man is the only person at second base that is truly playing head over heels this year. I'm interested. we've got the defensive stalwarts of Horner and Terang.

Are you seeing the board any differently? It's Catele-Marté for me. And, yeah, I mean, some of these guys do things differently. Like, Terang is going to run the bases. He's going to play a great defensive second base. Same thing with Nico. They serve their purpose. They're on their teams for a reason.

These teams want to run prevent. I mean, Cotel-Marté is just too electric to ignore. He's almost one-dodding it. 994 OPS he is 345ing it right on the nose at 300 402 on base 592 slug and yeah like he's missed some games but the offensive numbers are are too overwhelming to to ignore so I'm going could tell and Donovan like he's had a tough June but he what he means to that lineup and the leadership that he's brought I just read an article from katie woo shout out talking about what he's been doing with guys bringing him back to to the lab after games just straight up to the video room. He's putting the work in. It's showing he's having his best year of his career. But Cotel Marte is, I mean, he's elite, Jake.

If you did players that have played above 50 games, he would be fourth in OPS. It's Judge. It's Shohei. It's Cal Raleigh. It's Catele Marte. It's 17 homers in 58 games. played. It's a bad man.

Know it. Arizona, don't trade nailer. Just start winning games and pitch a little bit. Congrats to Cotell Marte. And congrats to all the pesky little baseball kids growing up in Milwaukee and Chicago that are idolizing Nico Horner and Bryce Terang every day. Just going to... They can bunt and they can run and they can field and they're going to make millions of dollars because of it.

Look at that. But, hit a three-run homer, Trev. That's what you're missing. Well, Ketel can do it. Against pitching, it's never been better. Congrats to Ketel Marte. Shortstop. Don't like this one, Jake.

Okay, good to know. Nobody does. Francisco Lindor won in April. Mr. Smile. Pardomo, a controversial win last month as the young snake shortstop took it. Joe's McFly just poked his head in it

I made everyone a little happy. Treve, I've got five guys I do not mind giving it to. Oh, Trey Turner. Hello. Hello, welcome to talking baseball. Just a reminder, if you're leaving a comment,

my name is Chris Rose. Trey Turner, Pardomo, Lindor, Ellie de la Cruz, and C.J. Abrams. Coach? Okay. Well, I think we're looking at three guys here. You were looking at five. Ellie and CJ have had really, really nice, almost all around seasons. Okay?

Yes. Offensively, 858 OPS for Ellie, 852 for CJ. They're both running the bases. Awesome. I mean, 22 swipes for Ellie. 17 for CJ, but then you start to go into the numbers on defense, and they ain't really pretty. I know I've said before I like CJ out there. The numbers consistently call him a below average defender, Ellie the same thing this year. The one guy who has been below average defensively every year basically since 2018, but it's somehow somehow turned it around completely this year.

Whoa. My guy, Trey Turner. Have you looked at the defensive metrics for him? Did he go talk to your guy? Is Trey Trey Tino cooking the books? I don't know what happens. Phillies fans explain to me. Is it just is he making the routine play

and then also like shading correctly? Is he just in position more? because the defensive metrics have Trey as elite at Shortsup, and it just has not been that over the last couple years, the last five years. So the numbers offensively are similar enough for me. Slug a little bit down for Trey, but he's got the swipes and the defense.

I think it's Trey Turner from here this year, or this month, excuse me. Holy smokes. Trev, I am with you with C.J. and Ellie that I need my shortstop to play consistent defense. And Ellie has not done this year. CJ, we've talked about a lot on this program previously, that although they're excelling offensively, it's not enough that day and day out, I can't forget about. I can't be worried about my shortstop every day, which then brings us to Lindor Perdomo Turner.

Offensively, the winner of that is Trey Turner right now. That, yeah, it's just this is a tough mental exercise, because I know who Lindor is defensively, year in, year out, thing bang, bong. Out of Philly for years, we've heard, like, should stop play short, should they flip it, when's Trey Turner moving to center? we talked about that last episode.

What the outs above average is telling us would be no contest. Trey Turner would win this. I'm a little nervous. I'm gonna text Shelfy. Okay, text Shelfy. I have Trey. I do want to hear from Philly's fans

who are watching this team day in and day out. What the biggest difference is. Bring him in, doll. If he's available, it's episode a thousand. Yeah, we're running. This is going to be a six-hour episode. You think we care? We don't care. Algorithm be damned.

Just kidding. We love you, algorithm. You sweet little algorithm. We're going to end the episode with me and Joe's having a hog off. Let's see what Shelfy's got. Couple rotten boys from the J.M. Warehouse. No spoilers. No spoilers. Congratulations on episode 1,000.

Shelfi, we need you to be an honest man for a second. Okay. The numbers are telling you. us that Trey Turner has been an all-world defensive shortstop this year. Yeah. For years, that hasn't been the conversation. Mm-hmm. Does it feels different?

I don't know if it passes the eyeball test because I'll say I've actually been deep diving this more because we're having the Trey Turner, Bobbywood Jr., who's playing shortstop for Team USA conversation lately. Sure. I'm team Bobby, no bias. But, yeah, I don't know if it's like an eyeball test thing. just is in a groove. I think him being back offensively has helped him a lot. He's been in a rhythm offensively. I think it's kept him going on both sides. He hasn't made any like spectacular plays.

I don't know how like the defensive advance analytics work. Sometimes I hear that just the way you position yourself, you can help yourself out with some of these statistics. So maybe some of that's playing into it. I don't know. But Trey Turner is having probably his best season as a Philly. And I think a lot of it is circles back to him having a really good offensive season. Interesting. That might have confused me more. It's, well, defensive analytics are confusing to begin with. On the defensive metrics here.

Yeah. I don't, I'm with, I'm probably with you guys. You're saying it looks the same. Yes. I can't point, I can't think of any one moment this season where I'm like, that play trade made. God damn. I'm still.

I'm trade Turner for shortstop. Leave it up to you, Jake. I'm not saying he's a bad shortstop. No, I'm saying I am confused by defensive analytics. Do you think he's had a better year than Ellie Day of the Cruz and C.J. Abrams. Well, isn't C.J. Abrams one of those guys that is like really bad. Like, it gets measured as a really bad defensive force. Yeah, just like Trey Turner.

Tip it. Every year since 2018. Yeah. And what's he at right now? Plus eight, plus nine DRS? He hasn't figured out of the books yet. That's an ironic thing to say. Well, shout out to me easily. Yeah, like CJ Abrams OAA's third percentile.

You know what? I might cast a vote for Lindor, and we might have to kick to the John Bino. I don't mind it for Lendor. I've been kind of overlooking him as I thought the offense was just a, you know, a little below the others. But I know what he brings on the base pass and defensively as well. So I get that. So we're going between Trey Turner and Lundore.

Yes, sir. Thank you, Shelfie. Rotten. Rotten. Oh, hold on. Do I get to say a goodbye? Trev, it's not a spoiler if it's out for the record. Rotten.

We got one. Yeah. We can say this party was for us. Appreciate you guys having me on. Thank you, Dr. Shelfi. Three banners, no big deal. First person to ever do it in the warehouse. Rotten.

Third base is the most... Third base is an absolute shit show. So maybe we need to get Jimbo on both of this. Who do you want? Who do I take? So let's go back. Austin Riley, how about that had it in April. Then Manny Machado had it in May.

And right now, as we're looking at these statistics, I mean, we have pretty much everybody right on par. Austin and Riley's kind of taken a step down. I think he's out. So we're talking, what do you favor? A Eugenio and all those homers. Right. He's got a 142 WRC plus.

26 homers is double anybody else. Then you have Max Muncie who's come on since getting glasses. Great feel good story. Love it for everybody that wears glasses out there. Right. Max Muncie's a hero. Mani Machado. been pretty damn consistent this year

he's doing on all sides of the ball I always kind of lean a manny in a situation like this just because I feel like he truly is the leader down there and I just I don't know just like watching him play baseball like he's one of my favorite players in the big weeks to watch so I don't have a good reason

for picking many because I think they're all very similar maybe I'll go 293 average 354 on base percentage, like maybe a more steady contributor offensively? Maybe I'll go there? I don't know if that was a vote, but I'm with Manny.

Suarez, I don't want to say he's cooked the books a little bit again, but he's got the big Homer games. There's a lot of empty games in there. And I went through his defensive highlight reel because I'm scouting for the Yankees potential trade deadline. Didn't necessarily love what I saw. meanwhile it's manny being manny and we did manny versus chapman last time chapman's banged up a little bit uh and munsey's hard charging which is great and he's toe to toe with

manny but i still want manny at third base that my vote is is manny snaps for manny i think we i think we just can't think too much about this one just go for it wow i thought that would be messier then can we while we're here do we just hit the show hey button Congratulations, Shoahe on DH. How about that guy? I had a question, and this is a stupid Shohei one. Right. But is he a better hitter or pitcher?

I have him as a better hitter. Well, because we've seen him hit lately. Right. But don't forget, like, the guys want to Sai Young. It hasn't won a Sai Young. He hasn't won a Cy Young? He didn't. He didn't? Is he a Cy Young, too? Shohay

I mean the fact we're talking about it is crazy Sy Young 4 in 2020 Oh it's Sai Young 4 I'm sorry Which again Some reason I had him Sai Young Three time MVP My God He should have won it

I mean Aaron Judge broke the home run record Right in his face I mean Okay No I'm happy for him I'm saying like Sho Hay's something else.

Okay. So better hit, better hit it. Okay. Congrats to Shohei. Congrats to Mani Machado. Let's do the outfield. We're waiting for the John Bino to come in for the shortstop position. In April, Junghu Lee was our center fielder, J.HL, Corbyn Carroll and Fernando Tatee's Jr.

Last month, PCA. Might have missed it. first time through King Tuck and James Wood. Here's Jimbo. Trey Turner and Lindor? Is that what you guys are doing? Yep. You could open it up even more.

If we have to go to the fourth tiebreaker. Trey Turner has him in every slash line. Every defensive category on every website. Trey Turner has more outs above average. They're tied DRS. runs created plus Trey Turner has him I haven't found a single stat

that Lindor is better than Trey Turner at on both sides of the ball besides home runs so I don't understand we asked Shelfy how Trey Turner's defense has felt yeah because you know he's been a bad defender statistically or since 2018

besides the one year he changed his positioning on the Dodgers and felt like he was playing worse, but the metrics liked him more. There was a 22 little blip in the radar there, but he's been categorized as the guys that he could move to center field. And now all of a sudden,

he's just raking it in on the defensive metrics. He called Shelfian, he said he doesn't sure. I know who Lindor is defensively. Yeah. I kind of know who Trey Turner is defensively, and that's where defensive metrics are tough to really lean your hat into. I agree, but it's every defensive metric.

Usually, I know. Some are and some aren't. But he's got him on every offensive thing, too. He's got, he's got... Like, same amount of games played. He has runs driven in. Sure. RBI, a little bit of a team stat,

unless he's failing with runners and scoring position, I would see, but, I mean, his batting average is way higher. His on-base percentage is 20 points higher. His slugging is 10 points higher, or 8, whatever that is. His OPS is 25 points higher. Like, that's pretty significant.

Every slash line's higher. I tend to agree. I just know what Lindor plays defensively. That if I'm getting those stats out of a plus defender versus those stats out of a minus defender, I would rather have Lindor. But Trey's been a plus defender. Yeah, we think.

Defensive analytics stink. But Trey Turner does not. And I'm happy for our guy. Trey Turner is back. NL Outfield to me is very, very easy. Do it. Pete hasn't, Pete Carr Armstrong, he's come down to Earth a little bit, 770 OPS in June, but I still think he deserves to be the center fielder.

And then from there, I think there's two guys that are standing out as well. It's Kyle Tucker and James Wood. There's been some great performances. Andy Pahey's. We love what you're doing out there with the dogs. Stowers down there. You just took my boy Joe Ryan Deep last night. Love what you do.

an offensively, you ain't there yet. Corby and Carroll definitely got, has an argument here. On the IL now, a tough one for the snakes, but I think those three guys, Pete Crow, Kyle Tucker, and James Wood have just kind of stood out above the rest. Even you won Soto, even you. Soto is charging and the offensive stats are still behind James Wood. And that's before we get into defense, which we've done a lot of that today. Yeah, James Wood has more stolen bases than Corbyn Carroll. Like if you're thinking that could be a differentiator, which just shows how much of an absolute freak show this gentleman is.

1.8 OPS went ahead in the count. That can happen every at bat. I think you're right, Trev. Fernando, the offensive numbers are just not there that we could start going defense on that front. And yeah, I don't know if Corbin ends up in the fan vote again, but he's outdone by Wood that you're right. I think the outfield runs it back.

PCA, Tucker, and Wood. By the way, that's like a dream outfield. I mean, the Cubs have a dream outfield. You still have been there. Yeah, we should we? Instead, we'll congratulate James Wood and the rest of the boys. Shohei at DH. Skeens at pitcher, or actually,

Actually, no, I'm going Wheeler. Wheels up. Yeah, this is, this is. Wheels up. It's, it's, it's wheels versus skeins in the National League. What's, what's Yamamoto Dunley? He's not on our sheet. He's an honorable mention.

I just want to look. Okay. Just want to look. And you're, you're definitively in for Zach Wheeler. Do you have a reason for that? I do, Trevor. I don't just shoot from the hip. Zach Wheeler

Paul Skeens Wheeler has one more quality start Wheeler has 136 strikeouts to Skeens is 110 Think about every time we talk about skeins It's unfair he's making up pitches How does this guy This guy's a freak

Wheeler's out freaking him Hmm Think about that I think a lot of this has to do And look I'm I'm leaning Andrew Abbott. I love Andrew Abbott. I think a lot of has to do with the way they're treating Paul Skeens.

Like they're treating it. They got kitty gloves on them. Let him eat. Last night they took him out after five innings, I believe it was. 88 pitches or something like that. It's, and on the broadcast, you know, they've explained to him that this is for the long run. I was like, man, I don't want to see that out of Paul Skeens. I want to see him go for him.

the pirates on a nice little winning streak right now. It's not going to mean anything in the long run. I understand that, but I think Zach Wheeler's the dog, and he's like, they need him to go deep into games, and they're not going to treat him with kiddie gloves. And I think for that reason alone, and I'm not saying Paul Skeens wants that to happen. He wants to be on the Phillies probably,

or at least a winning team. He wants to be at a winning team, eating up innings, going deep into games. They're not doing that. They're not letting him do that. So I guess I'm, I think I'm with you on wheels here. And I don't want to pretend like it's not close. It's the same pitching thing as before.

These guys have the same whips, 091. I think people, like we have this weird Zach Wheeler, almost Will Smith thing that we've gone through where he's always like the second best guy. I think he's the best guy. The strikeouts are insane. And that's just a form of domination that you would assume. when you look at this screen and see these

strikeout numbers, you'd be like, oh, that's skeins, right? No. And by the way, another guy, Logan Webb. He leads in FIPP and F-Wor. What? Yes. Like Logan Webb just simply decided to strike out more headers. And that's working well for him. He has the most quality.

I do think Wheeler has been just a little bit better than Webb, who... I just had a weird... I was going to say if Wheeler and Willer Smith have been the runner up constantly, it feels like Logan Webb is the constant like third bas. Yeah, he has been a lot. I know. I feel like he's okay with that too. He's flying under the radar.

And Trev, I have good news for you within this conversation. I think Zach Wheeler has just earned his first pedal. He has never. Whoa. Never. So the comparison rings true. a congratulations to Philly fans. Trey Turner and Zach Wheeler.

Wheels up. Who you got for a fan voter, kid? Corby and Carroll deserves to be on that. Yep. Schwabber? Keep the Philly train rolling? Let me get a little gander here of the rest of the guys who we might have missed.

Do we want to throw one of the short stops on there? Yes and no I don't I don't know Because then we have to pick one of them That's always tough for us Yeah I would go Carol

Schwarber Okay Carol Schwerber And then do you want to go Max Muncie or You know Suarez Ooh Oh I don't know

I don't know I don't know Let's go Let's go Aahenio. Got a ton of home. Two snakes. Split them up. Yeah.

I don't want to pretend I don't like 26 homers. Okay. So the fan vote. We'll go to Corbyn Carol, A. Eugenio Suarez, and Kyle Schwerver. Big Snakes, Phillies episode.

Holy smokes. You're all J.M. June team. I think we crushed it. In the AL, Cal Raleigh, big dumper, Jonathan Oranda at first. Weber Torres, Jeremy Pena, Jose Ramirez, Aaron, Judge, Byron Buxton, Riley Green, Brent Rooker, Terrick Scoobled, the fan vote, Bobby Witt, Jr., Vladimir Guerrero, Jr., Michael Garcia,

Jr. I don't think he is, but we'll see. In the National League, Will Smith, getting jiggy behind the dish, Pete Alonzo, Catell at second, Trey Turner is back. Mani Machado. Mani Machado at third, Pete Crowe Armstrong and center, James Wood, Kyle Tucker, Shohayotani, Zach Wheeler, your fan vote, Corbyn, Carol, Kyle Schwaber, Aohenio Suarez. Dahl and I do have one more person I need you to retrieve for us. We are going to end it with Joe's McFly if he's available. But first, before we do that, it's time to bet the cycle. Brought to you by the Draft Kings Sportsbook.

Use code J.M. Baseball when you sign up at the Draft Kings Sports Book. Trev Let's get it going I'm going with a little Bunt single drag bunt third baseman's back for the single The Astros are going to defeat the Dodgers

on Framber Valdez's start day They've won 10 straight starts by my guy Framber They're 29 and 21 versus teams With a winning record That's second best in all of Major League Baseball Framber's going to shut everyone out We does Curveball man

And we got our single last week, by the way, people. So you can start there. Our double, Charlie Morton, wow, returns to Atlanta and records the win in Truist Park. The Braves have fallen a fourth in the NLEs. Morton 338 in his last 45.1 innings pitch. Is he going to be pitching somewhere else soon? Back in Truist, Morton, and the O's get the win. This one's going to be tough.

You got a leg out a big triple here. In his first game back at Chase Field, our guy, Robbie Ray, to record 10 plus Ks versus the Dbacks. Oh, my goodness. He's pitched one game versus Dbacks this season. Nine Ks in that game. That was a season high. So we're looking for him to really up the handy there against the snakes.

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Why not? You're aiming down. I'm working. Jesus, what an entrance. Joe's, how are you? I'm doing good. Episode 1,000.

Can you believe it? I can believe it because there's... You know who you look like right now? Me. Mace. Okay. A rapper? Yeah.

Nice. Good Mace shout out. You had a hot take. You had a hot take going pretty viral yesterday about war joes yeah a lot of people calling you a dumb dumb how about that i don't care what they say until you give me the the perfect defensive metric well war is probably it's good it's just that i don't like it being the end-all be i think you need to use war with other stats in order to be able to see it and you got to probably compare other people in the same position versus other stuff so

anyone that's calling you dumb like under your comment section i want to want them to just go and I want them to explain how war is calculated. There's a lot of people, you just don't know how war is calculated. I'm like, nobody does. Nobody does. The computer doesn't. So I'd like to know, like, if you ask somebody that and said, tell me the equation to calculate war and don't use your phone to look it up, I don't think anybody could. Just name it, just name it something else then.

I know. Wins above replacement. Jimmy's big on the only keep it within your position. Yes, I agree. I agree with that. As we've talked about defensive metrics and how much that can skew things is pretty wild. And then, yeah, I think it's, I think as I've been thinking about your concept of this, I think war, as you noted, the top players tend to have the best war.

Me, you and Trev can make a stat right now, and the top players will be there. Aaron Judge. They'll be there. No, it's been really good this year. Cal Rale. I don't need to see his war Here's my thing How can we have war for people in 1920?

Full agree on that How do we do that? Even in the 90s How are we defining defensive metrics? Now I get it Well Louis Apparicio used to pick it You know how far a guy ran for a ball And the catch probability of that

Right based on all the other balls that we've tracked. So now I'm like, okay, I can see that. But someone was explaining to me yesterday about how they calculated war. They put a grid on a TV screen and then go back and say, okay, that person went from this grid to this grid to make the play and then compare, like, what are we doing? So like, I'm out on war before 2015.

Okay. Well, yeah, I mean, if you're comparing eras. At the end of the day, people look at it as correct because you're seeing the top players there anyway. But like I said, me and you make a stat today, any stat. Those top players are going to be there anyway. I just, the perfect defensive stat has yet to be invented. And when it does, then we will see a lot of these numbers change.

That's why I'm saying that's the same crew that tell me that are so crazy about war back in the day, the same people to tell me Derek Jeter's a bad defender, which watched it. My war also has changed. My career war has changed. It's gone up and down after I've been done playing, so. Well, it's what you're doing with talking baseball.

It's bringing up. It's bringing up your wins. Maybe we are all just stupid. I don't know. Fine. That's fine on me. Guess what? Doesn't mean I don't know ball. You know ball. I'm excited for you two to link up at the All-Star game. That's usually a powerful moment. Oh, me and Joe's the CIA party is stuff of the legends.

Players Alliance. Yeah, we'll be there too. We'll be everywhere. 1,000. Any final words for episode 1,000? Joe, if anyone should have the mic, it should be you. Final words for episode 1,000. Here's so a thousand more.

A thousand more. A thousand years is in the future. A thousand years in your future. It's not that many episodes. Thank you to everyone. Trevor, my guy, guy. Love you. Episode 1,000.

And John Bino, the fire that lit the start, the spark that lit the flame. Bobby Seraco on the ones and twos. King BBD, who led us through a lot of our journeys and tech issues. And to everyone else, we thank you guys so much. I do have a little video to send us out if you'd like. Martin's won't lose the game. Hello and welcome to talking baseball. My name is John Boy.

I got my best friend in town with me. His name is Jake. Jake, how you doing? Good, Jimmer. How you doing, brother? We have history today. The first guest in Talking Baseball history. And it is drum roll.

I tried. It didn't really work. Drum rolls don't work well on podcast. Trevor Pluth. Welcome to Talking Baseball. This is the first episode. We're streaming live on YouTube for our patrons. This is our newest endeavor.

We are excited. We've been putting a lot of work into it. Trevor, what's up, man? We're buddies. We're buddies. Yeah, we got to hang out in LA a little bit. They got to meet each other and here we are, right? We are in Bradenton, John Boy, Trevor Plouffe, myself, and our guest today is Jameson

Tyone. Am I saying that right? That was really nice. That was good? We were practicing all day. Episode number 500 of Talking. baseball, how about that? Always great to be in the city.

The energy is palpable. I got my duct tape in case you get out of line here. I like that. Or in case you're in line. Hello Jimmy. Hello, Trevor. Episode 666, so we're discussing. The devilish take on all of the contending teams. They might not make the playoffs.

They may go straight to hell. Wow. I'm a dog. I'm a podcast rat. Used to be a baseball rat, now I'm a podcast rat. You told me before the show that this is the first time

you really felt like yourself. I feel comfortable. I think the people will find I'm just a neutral baseball fan with no biases at all. From the plofs and their puppy and Trev playing Fortnite Rob Chiracroko and everyone,

thank you guys, and we'll see you soon, I guess. Jake sucks.