Talkin' Baseball (MLB Podcast) - Jomboy Media Predicts Offseason Chaos!

Episode Date: December 3, 2025

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Hello and welcome to Talking Baseball Free Agency continues. Devin Williamside, Cody Ponce, and a little jam around the horn. Shout out. Let's talk some ball. Everyone's getting involved. Merrill Kelly. Ooh, I never prepped for this. I'm out. Travis Jankowski.

Nice. Thank you. You did great. Thanks, man. Hello and welcome to Talking Baseball. I'm talking to Talkin'Besball. I am Jake Story Ellie. that is Jack Oliver, aka Jolly Olive.

Doxed. Rob Chiraccos here. Carrie, shout out. First time in the lab. Dalton missing, potentially. Trevor Plouf, have a very funny story about where he is at that I will say in a minute. But first, Jali Alv, how are you doing? I'm great.

I got the call last night from my scout, Rob Chiracco, saying, hey, we need you for 10, 15 minutes tomorrow. Can you swing it? And I said, you know me, busy man, but I'll make time for you. you guys any day of the week. So I'm good. How are you, Jake? I'm excited, Jolly. And I guess we should tee up that you, me, Bob, and BPD are going to winter meetings. Spoilers, but yeah. In a couple days. So that's going to be fun. So, you know, we'll be on all the breaking news. The fact that stuff's already happening, I'm not, I wouldn't say I'm a vet yet of winter meetings, but they, the one winter meetings I went to, there wasn't any

action. It was Bryce Harper and Machado year and there was collusion that came out afterwards. So as long as that's not happening, everything else has had some action and the fact there's been one or two that like there was nothing leading up to it and it started to go. The fact that things are happening, I think that's a good sign because I think a players between potential lockout next year, even though I don't believe in it. And it's also very funny, the biggest signing so far of the pitchers are guys that had down years last year. A little bit. That's baseball's.

That's baseball's break the market. Ah, these guys actually didn't perform last year. So let's get them for a better value. Do people care about ERA anymore? That's kind of what I'm taking a lot. Oh, well, people do. Um, jowl, actually, let's do Devin. Let's, let's, let's just do it.

We got you here. And then I want to tell my funny Tref story. You'll, you'll appreciate it for them. I think you'll appreciate the most. I was going to save it for the end of the episode because I think Treve might be slightly embarrassed. He actually won't be at all because he's Trev. But Devin Williams.

Yeah. Signs stays in New York. He likes the city streets. Three years 50? Yeah, three years, 50 mil. Some real money, some closer money or set up money? Devin Williams, and again, I'll keep my, well, I'll keep part of my Yankee stuff out of it. It was one of the, I think,

I built in all half decade team, 2020 to 2025 with Foolish Bailey. Sorry. You don't have to apologize every time you talk to them. You can have other friends. It's okay. Devin Williams made the team in the bullpen with where his ERA was at. And it was kind of funny because I think we did at the midway point of the season where Devin was having his struggles with the Yankees. So I guess, Raw. Joe's McFly later in the episode. Raw reaction.

It was pretty shocking at first. I thought it was interesting when I listened to talking Yanke's. You guys weren't shocked at all when it happened. And that was with a little bit of time from the signing itself. But when it first happened, I was like, okay, this is the third straight off season that the Mets have kicked off the off season by signing a Yankees pitcher coming off arguably their worst year. It was Severino.

Then it was Clay Holmes, who was good, not great, but had his low lights. And now it's Devin Williams. their track record with the other two is good. They're two for two. So hopefully it can go well again. Devin Williams, he's another case of what we said at the top of the show. Do people really care about ERA anymore?

With relievers, it's a bit of a different case because reliever ERA is so volatile. The strikeout stuff is still there. The biggest thing with Devin Williams last year that really tore down his season was that he had the worst strand rate, the worst left on base rate of any qualified reliever in baseball. I think it was somewhere around 55% where you want that mark to be closer to 75%. percent. Is that an anomaly? Is it not? I don't know. But what the Mets did here was kind of similar to what the Orioles did were they saw the bad year that Ryan Housley had and they said, okay, this guy has

a track record going on five years of being elite. Let's cash in, see if we can get a lower value for someone who has shown the capability of being top five of their position. With the Mets, it's a larger bet at three years, $50 million. There's no options. There's no opt-outs. There's some deferred money, but it is a commitment to a reliever. So at first, I was, was scared, but then I looked at the Mets bullpen depth chart, and I was like, okay, they, they needed something like this. It's just, there's more to do after it. So, you know, you came at me with all your newfangled stats and you left out that he can't handle the big city. Okay. Better, better home numbers than away numbers. He did. Yeah, I, so again, where this becomes personal,

and I, I, I, I said the other side of it. I said, you know, built a roster of the best 26 players to build a team of this half decade, and Devin Williams kind of had to be on that team. Sure. Watching him last year was just bizarre because the Velo was down for a part of the season, and I'm normally not that guy, but also in today's baseball,

you kind of partially have to be that guy, especially when the results aren't there. And then we started, I was saying that very Jake style on talking Yanks. I was like, I think Evan's thrown a couple up there like 92. Like in today's baseball, that's nothing. And then Jimmy went Jimmy mode, as you've seen. And numbers were flying.

And he was like, yeah, like every Devon fastball, 94 and under getting rocked. Every Devon fastball 95 and up, not getting hit. So something to watch. And then I guess the other thing for me is the Airbender. It's the special pitch. It's what he does different. And when it's right, it is pretty bizarre. Like when you look at the slow-mo of the release point and how,

it comes out and how that thing spins. It's one of the funkiest, toughest pitches in the game. I'm interested to see the next steps for Devin Williams, because you're right, the strikeout numbers are still insane. It's his best K-to-walk ratio. Yeah, I think he was top eight with Edwin Diaz, so they would be the only tandem if Diaz comes back. What do you mean in tandem if he comes back?

He's a free agent. That was the report they're still in. I guess for me, I think the one part I'm interested to see is that two pitches, which, again, a lot of relievers still have that. Yeah. But Devin Williams now, he's been in the league for, you know, six, seven years. It's like, what is? It's so out.

It's so out. It's so out. And I love it. As soon as it got to this office, it was dead. But I want to say I'm happy with everything about it. I'm happy that the youth was like, hey, fuck all the adults will just make up something that means nothing and drives them nuts. It's a little bit beautiful.

And now I'm happy that the adults figure that out and have punched back. by ruining it. It's kind of united us and divided us in the same one. Society did great in this one example. I agree. Where was I? I'm just interested to see. I don't know if it's the league seeing Devin Williams.

I don't know if it's trajectory machines, but there was at Bats last year when you were just like gulp. Like we're six pitches in. They've seen the fastball. They've seen the change up. And they're comfortable with both. And even, I guess, on the Velo side of things, there was times when guys sat change up.

And they were like, well, if I get a fastball, it's 95, which again, in today's baseball, guys can foul off. That literally there was just, there was some Devin Williams get out at bats last year that hurt Yankee fans. Like you were just in the chair and you're like, you can't. The best case was a walk. Yeah. I mean, listen, my initial reaction to this and you can see it, I posted on my socials, it wasn't like, I wasn't jumping for joy. I was pretty tepid in my response. but the Mets have a growing philosophy of they just love guys that have stuff over command,

which is why I thought they're going to be a big player for Dylan Sees. You think to, I'll bring up three guys currently on their active roster, Kodi-Sanga has a pitch that no one else throws, the ghost fork. Clay Holmes has a kick change, which is like one of the new burgeoning pitches that not a lot of guys throw yet, and now you have Devin Williams with this airbender. It's very clear in their philosophy that they're trying to build a stuff over command-type pitching staff, which is what they've done in the past when they've been successful, and also not successful.

And I thought it was going to come down to one of two guys. It was going to be Devin Williams or Robert Swarres, and it was a matter of pick your poison because Robert Swarres has the velocity, has a deeper pitch mix, doesn't walk guys, but is super susceptible to the home run ball. Then you have Devin Williams, who's a tighter pitch mix, is going to walk a few more guys,

but he only gave up six home runs last year. And them picking DeWill and not even being rumored with Robert Swarres kind of told me everything I need to know about how they're going to operate this offseason. With Devin Williams's usage last year, I do agree. I was, I was tuning in the Yankee games and I was going, they're really using them here in this moment.

I just feel like they're setting him up for failure. I'm hoping that him getting his contract and being protected in this three-year deal will make him open to whatever role he needs to take on for this bullpen because it's very clear that if things go according to plan for the Mets, he's not going to be the closer. Yeah, so that, I guess that is the next step. And yeah, Matt, I, again, the can't handle the city stuff. I'm clearly joking there.

Oh, he's joking. I know, I know. But also the Yankees are part of the problem, and I don't have to go on this rant right now. Go check out talking yanks. But, like, they very much pride themselves on a team of faith. No, they pride themselves on taking care of players. They want every player to walk away from the Yankees and being like,

they are the class organization of baseball. That they had talks with Devon's agent that he wasn't, he didn't do any updowns. last year. Like, they were taking care of his free agent. You didn't do a single updown? I don't believe so. That's crazy.

Again, like, it was kind of haters free agent year. Yeah, a little bit. That, like, and it's tough. The Hater also had a 1-2 ERA that year. Yeah. There's the difference. So, yeah, I'd say the Yankees were part of the problem there. The Yankees' bullpen depth being limited,

that there was a couple times that Devin was the option. And you're like, what? Like, you're not doing him any favors. So, yeah, they got in their own way there. Again, I think there is just some weird baseball irony that in a couple years, I think we're going to laugh that guys who didn't perform in their free agent years are getting the contracts because the value there is they're probably better. And it kind of makes sense.

And they probably are. Yeah. Like, it makes sense on both sides because if you're getting, you know, if you're Dillon Cise and you're coming off one of your worst years and you get seven for two, ten, you're not going to like wait to see what else you can get. I have to leap of that opportunity. Oh, no. Dylan Cise.

Yeah. Go nuts. And again, I think there can be Wheeler comps there. I saw that too. Yeah. He's outperformed them up into this point that I get betting on arm talent. I do think we're going to have a point where some team gets burned by it. And they're like, wait, we signed a guy after his bad year and he remained bad.

Like, I'm, again, this is just an awful shot fired for accidental reasons. And I hope this guy has a fun bounce back story. But like Joey Gallo had a horrific free agency year that if that happened this year? I almost think that would be a good thing for him. I think Joey Gallo would be signed and a team would be like, yes. He's going to bounce back. Who's inviting him to spring training as a pitcher? Maybe Swilly's Angels. Okay. Oh, I like that. Talking to her in a little bit. They've got a fun camp Alec Manoa. Hello. Greyrod, Manoa. Gallo. It's 2022 again. Two-way Gallo, the Otani replacement. You think they're still signing Diaz? You believe this. I think it's a,

And you should, I'm not saying it like it is crazy, but call me all my BS. I think it's a two horse race. I don't think it's that crazy to say between Mets and Dodgers. I wonder how far the Dodgers go after the Tanner Scott contract and what that currently looks like, which is by the way, if you want to compare the current reliever contracts that just got signed to Tanner Scots, you can start to feel a lot better about. Yeah, again, signing guys after their great year. Yeah.

Exactly. You can flip it the other way too. And there's a bunch of examples. You can play that game all day. it's very clear that Diaz is going to get that five-year, whatever the amount of money deal is, maybe more. I just think that the reliever market is so interesting because it's pretty top-heavy,

and there's a decent, like Pete Fairbanks entering the chat and Kenley Jansen coming off a nice year and Kyle Finnegan, sneaky being one of the better options there. Like, there are ways you can go, but for the Mets, if they don't have D.S., it feels like the head of the snake got cut off and they're just going to be flailing around with their pitching staff. He was the only thing that was consistent and good for them the entire year.

And it's very clear that, you know, you mentioned it kind of jokingly before. Diaz conquered New York. He had a horrible 2019 where he very much clearly wasn't comfortable pitching there. And it took time. Overcame injury. Like, it's been a roller coaster ride in it. I personally think as a baseball fan, not just a guy looking at numbers, that it would be a shame if the story ended here.

And Diaz didn't finish his career with the Mets. So I have my fingers crossed. I'm not confident because if you go into a bidding war with the Dodgers, you usually lose. But I think it's very clear that the Mets are still open to that possibility and pursuing that possibility. Well, yeah, and it's very real money for a reliever. There's a lot of teams that can't dream about giving 17 mil a year to a reliever. It's just an interesting early plot line for this Mets off season that I'm reading through the T leaves a little bit. if Devin came through, if Devin Williams is the closer come spring training opening day tomorrow,

there's concerns. Oh, yeah. Fair concerns. Oh, yeah. Okay. You're still, you're even a Fairbanks. The Mets are a better team with Devin Williams on it right now. That's what I'll say.

Nice, dude. They're better now than they were two days ago. New Jersey politician Jolly Olive. Do I have your vote? No. Okay. Let me tell you, my funny Trevor Ploof. that I'm glad we delayed a couple minutes.

Oh, boy. And then we'll get you out of here for... Do you have permission to tell this? I don't. Okay, huge. I, okay, I'll flex on the people. It's now become an annual thing, once a year dinner with Nikki Cass last night.

Oh, that's nice. Nice dinner. And again, Nikki's as clean as they come. So, like, you know, no drinks were had, just like two Italian guys talking like this. And you were with his family in Italy, so... I saw them on the way back. So we had a nice dinner.

No, didn't look. at the phone, whole time. Okay. I'm that guy. I like to pay attention. I get home. I look at my phone. And I have everything on silent.

If you call me, I don't, I don't see it as you did the other night. Like when I called you the other night? Okay. Crazy, by the way. And then, so I look and I have a missed face time from Trevor Plouf. So it's like nine o'clock. And I'm like, I don't know. I'm like, Treves and Cabo.

I was like, this could be. Yeah. Why are you on? on his mind. Treve likes a tipsy face time. Okay. So I'm like, I'm on the couch. I'm tired.

I'm watching Knicks and Yukon. Kind of nice. And I was like, you know what? Fuck it. Like, let's do it. So I FaceTime Trev. He answers. No hello.

First thing he just goes tongue out. And I'm like, all right. There we go. They're at dinner in fucking Cabo, blah, blah, blah. And I'm like, oh, Trev, how are you? It turns it to live. Hey, Liv, how you doing? Yeah.

I'm on... You're crockin' They're at one of their nicest dinners of the year. Here I am on my couch. Like, hey, guys. Watching Nixon Huskies. Looks great. Love working with your husband.

So I'm like, Trab, what's up? He's all, blah, blah, blah. We do that whole thing. And then he turns the camera to the table. And again, this is for a lot of the sports losers that consume this. And one of his friends is Jimmy Clause, the former Notre Dame quarterback.

And I didn't really... Part of this trip is it's Jimmy Klosson's wife's, I guess this is what started, Jimmy Clausen's birthday. Okay. Jessica, I believe, happy birthday. So Trev turns a camera to the table, which again, Trev's there with like, fancy cool people, and here I am on my couch.

And they're also probably like, Trev, why are you showing us this? Yes. Why are you in? Neither side wants this. It gets better. Great. So Trev turns it to Jimmy Claus, who I've seen probably on two and a half Trev tipsy face times.

We've never exchanged pleasantries. Treve turns it to like the table, and mostly Jimmy Closson, who's just stood up, interesting at a dinner. So Trev turns it to Jimmy Closson, just his phone like that. And Jimmy Closson goes, hi, Jake.

Yeah. Just kind of like, yeah, man, good to see you. Why it was a little more than just a whatever, Jimmy Clossin starts doing his like wife's birthday toast Which you now get you now get to listen to Trebs holding me up on FaceTime I can't hang up that's even more rude Oh I would have hung up

I disconnected you're in college Jimmy Claussen gave like a very nice toast And I obviously won't share all of it But he's like I'm so happy I'm just here with my close friends and family And I'm just sitting there on FaceTime on my couch like, however they, yeah.

It was a great Trev moment because I'm like, Trev, like click, like put the phone down or something. And nothing would have happened if you didn't call them back to. You could have avoided it entirely. And now you know. So that's a good one for the talking baseball people. Jolly,

see you in Florida Sunday. Yeah. Nice and warm. Watch out. See you in Florida, Rob. Watch out. The boys are popping. Hopefully you get good stuff.

Thank you, Jop. Maybe I have it doing Diaz. Hey, I like the way you think. Joe's McFeyer thinks he's the Yankee. Curious to see what he thinks about that on this show. See you later. Bye, Jolly. Today's episode is brought to you by Shopify.

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Sarah Wilson, Docs. How are you, Swilly? I'm all right. How are you, Jake? I'm good. Good. I'm sorry that you're enjoying the Northeast winter again.

Because boy, is that awful. I can't believe I woke up this morning and left my house and it was 31 degrees. Yeah. That's, that should be illegal. Yesterday with high 30s and rain is about as bad as it gets. That's kind of the consensus. Like at that point, just give us snow. Right. Yes.

So I'm glad you get to enjoy that. Instead of beautiful Anaheim, California, we don't get enough Halos chat. And when we do, it's normally a punchline that has made you a little defensive, understandably. Thank you for understanding. Our halos are, and the amount of times that Yankee fans have asked about Zach Netto in this office, I will send a personal apology. Can I get that handwritten? No.

Because it may have gotten mentioned on talking yanks yesterday. And, yeah, that wouldn't be the first time it's got mentioned on talking yanks this off season. Swilly, let's do a little halos and then we'll do a little outside of halos. Okay. Your team is making some moves. The Taylor Ward Trade for Greyrod, which sent everyone into a little. bit of a tizzy just because years, talent, name, threw everyone off. And then Alec Manoa signs last night. Where are you at with your halos and the current moves? Okay. So the Taylor Ward trade,

at first I was a little skeptical, but I like the idea of having a guy like Grayson Rodriguez with so much control. I think that that's really exciting. You know, apparently his arm is all cleaned out. that's what he said. And now that we have Mike Maddox as our pitching coach, which is something I have to keep in mind with some of these things. Like we actually have somebody that is capable to work with some of our pitchers now. That particular move, I'm pretty excited about. I've come around to the idea that, you know, he might have some sort of innings limit.

And, you know, he might not be, you know, toss in a bunch of innings right away or even ever. but that's that's that's talent uh he is proven that he can he can twirl it a little bit so we'll see obviously the health is the big factor when it comes to gray rod but i mean that's a name former first round pick lots of control and you know i'm obviously i am sad to see taylor ward go um i'm very excited to see how he does in the al east um i hope he does well he's he's awesome he's a great guy orio's fans are going to really love him he just kind of puts his head down and goes to work so yeah yeah yeah and i When that trade happened, value-wise, or mentally value-wise, if you just zoom out as a baseball fan,

you're like, Greyrod, like, okay, for one year of Taylor Ward and already a crowded outfield? Yes, that. Yes. If it wasn't the Angels, and again, I know we're tastefully talking about them. Right. That trade, if it, I've said this a couple times now. If it was Houston, if it was the Dodgers, you'd be like, oh, shoot, they got Greyrod. So excited for that for you.

And I mean, Manoa, one year, 1.3 million or whatever it is. 1.95. Okay. Not bad. I would take that extra 600K. Yeah. It's one, baseball moves fast, that you see Greyrod and Alec Manoa currently in the Halo's rotation.

And at that price for a starting pitcher, if you get anything, if you get a month worth of starts. And I don't know, I still believe in sports. I believe in competitors that I, obviously Manoa is in. you get paid on your arm talent and the numbers, and he doesn't currently have those the way he used to for a little bit. Nope. But for that risk, which is none, I don't know.

Why not? I guess. Okay, you don't have the same feeling. I don't, I don't, because these are the types of moves that the angels have been making for years, and they just, like, don't really pan out. Right, right. So, you know, maybe if the Mets took a flyer,

or if the brewers took a flyer, liar, a team that can actually, you know, take a pitcher and help develop them into something bigger or what they were, then I think it makes more sense. But you can't look at the Angels history and say, oh, they actually have a shot of like maybe turning this guy's career around. It's just not really what happens. We haven't seen. Yeah.

And again, I think if you, like you said earlier, if you take this move and you put it on a different team, then maybe it's like, okay, you know, maybe maybe he gives. gives you like a four ERA and he, you know, starts 25 games. But he does have an injury history too. Yeah. So for me, it's just like the same old song and dance. Like I'd rather go get like a actual low risk, I reward guy.

Like I don't know. These are just the moves we always make and it's, I'm just kind of over it. Like we do this all the time and it hardly ever works out. Yeah. I guess what, what are you hoping to see from the rest of the angel? off season because I think another starting pitcher will be brought in someone someone that you can

rely on for the innings right um and I guess in the lineup or free agency or trade wise I guess what's looming now that Rendon seems to be congrats on the next steps that's what we'll say for now yes I guess what are you looking for well like you said definitely starting pitching I mean it's always going to be starting pitching yeah always going to be starting pitching um so you know in like a perfect world. Obviously, I would love to get one of these guys that's at the top of the starting pitching list. So like a Zach Gallen, Michael King would be insane. But it's just like not, it's just not probable. I don't think for the angels. Am I? Is that any? I'm not deep in angels. I don't think so. I do know that the angels are pretty interested in Kazuma Okamoto though. And so that's like

the third baseman potential replacement. I think it's fun. Obviously he's a little bit older. I mean, a little bit older. He's going into his 30-year-old season, I think. You know, that's not that old. I mean, it's not. I mean, hey, you're, hey, we're in the same boat. We know, you know this. My boat's a little further down the street.

A little bit, but not by too much. My boat's a little further down the street. Not by too much. Because if I look at the lineup, if you saw a third baseman and that was it for the lineup, you can roll that out there. I mean, I think so, too. And the, I mean, the offense wasn't necessarily too much of the problem last year. We struck out a ton, but we had the fourth most home runs in Major League Baseball.

Obviously, you get a little bit of that thump lost with Taylor Ward gone. But I would like to think that we're not done on offense yet this off season. So hopefully you go get somebody else. If you plug in a guy like Okamoto, who is, you know, an average guy has a little bit of pop. I think it balances out the lineup really well. So I don't know. I just, it's so tough because I know what free agents could plug into this lineup and actually make it semi-competitive. But who wants to sign with us in free agency?

Like there are some things that make it admirable. Oh, you're playing in Southern California. Like so many people have said that they love to be teammates with a guy like Mike Trout. Like, you know, there's there's things like that. but like there isn't as much to be excited about with the angels as there are with other teams. Yeah. So it makes it kind of tough. But.

Yeah. I don't know. I, you know, I was going to do some Zach Netto BS and I'm not going to do that to you right now. I would love to talk about Zach Netto. No, it's not the talk you wanted to hear. Yeah, that's what I thought. Had Will Warren in your rotation. No, no.

Leave my short stop alone. I will. He's very good. He's very good. He's very good at baseball. And yeah, every. You know the angel cycle than me, but better than me. But, you know, I look at the bullpen right now.

I'm like, okay, Bobby Stevenson, Brock Burke, Zephyr, John. Let's. Give me a lefty, though. That's the thing. Like, we have, with the free agents and stuff, we have Brock Burke as our lefty, and that's it. I'll tell you what, I, again, coming from Yankee land where we scout out, the amount of lefties is shocking. Yeah. It really is.

Right. It really is that, like, a little shocking. I was looking at the Yankees lineup and I was like, oh, you know, if they run into the right lefty reliever and it's like, okay, Chapman, Hater. Yeah. And then every year you have one or two guys pop up and it's like, oh, they're having a great year. But you're like, it's. That's kind, yeah. It's, I agree.

And yeah, I mean, like you said, Brock Burke was a guy for us last year. That was like pretty good. Yeah. Like, he was kind of a dog. Like if you do best lefty relievers from last season, Brock Burke lands. Sneaky on that list. Like you may have a top 10 lefty reliever already in your bullpen. That's right.

But I only have one. Right. I only have one, which is why I think another like probable guy that, see, I think a guy like Hobie Milner is like Perry's. Perry's dream. Funky arm slot, soft thrower, lefty, which we need. Like I think, and what I think he's going into his 35 year old season. I don't know.

I think that just has Perry's. name written all over it. Obi Milner. I don't know. Up the river with me. Let me do a couple quick hitters with you swillers as we get some other people in here. Yeah. I guess this might be a two-part.

What's the one team in your division you're scared will make the biggest splash as this off-season? Yeah. I mean, I think the team that is the most capable, really in all of baseball right now is Seattle. Like Seattle is actually so horrifying, and they have seven top 100 prospects, according to baseball America, which is tied for the most in Major League Baseball. Yeah. Like if they really wanted to. They're brewing.

Yeah. Coffee joke. Oh, good. I like that. Yeah, they could really just like do some damage and they already have a team. I mean, they just went to the ALCS. Yeah. They are, they're brewing.

If you wanted to take it from a different angle, I mean, I think that Houston could probably just plug in a couple guys and they are pretty much back to where they were a couple of years ago, but they don't have the farm system anymore. So now we have Seattle and Houston in the AL West. That could be really good. So, like, that's kind of scary too. But I think Seattle, the world is their oyster.

Like, they could do whatever they want. Very interesting offseason. Yeah, I agree. Let's see. Okay. Okay, one move you want your team to make, not Hobie Milner. No, I mean, I'm not saying I want. Right.

I'm just saying. Well, yes. Again, I think that's Perry's, that would be Perry's guy. I mean, I think I'll stick with Okamoto. I think they, again, obviously with the Rendon news, we have a hole at third base. We also, you know, could plug him in at second. He's played second base before. So I think having a guy like him, an average guy that has a little bit of

a pop really balances out a lineup that just hits a lot of bombs. So I would love to see it. And the numbers that I'm seeing like around four years 60 mil, like I think that that's worth taking a flyer on. So I think the final two, give me one guy who will be. This doesn't have to be Halos. This is just around the league. One person who you'll be traded and where if you want, bonus points.

Okay. And give me one free agent to one team. Okay. When you say one free agent to one team, am I like picking the guy that I, that I'm confident is going to go to a certain team or like anything? I mean, I think Kyle Tucker's a Dodger. I think that that's like kind of the easy one though.

Like I don't know if it is though. Like I was there and now I've talked myself out of it. Really? Again, I don't, I just don't have the Kyle Tucker team. And then it's funny because I read articles and people are saying that the Yankees are the Kyle Tucker team. And I'm like, that's pretty interesting. That is normally Yankee BS is if there's a top free agent that they want at a position

they need, Yankee fans are the loudest about it. That's right. Yankee fans aren't the loudest about it because there's the belly wrinkle in there. Right. Yeah. I don't have the Kyle Tucker team. And maybe it is the Dodgers and I'll come back and I'll bop my head and this is what they do now because it's them Toronto, the Yankees, the Mets that like the teams are starting to form.

Yeah. No, that's a fine pick. And it could be very right. I mean, I don't know. I just, yeah, I've stopped kind of trying to talk myself out of the Dodgers just getting whoever they want. And so I feel like Kyle Tucker is, that's the obvious one. Yeah. I also have tried to convince myself that there's just no way he goes back to Houston.

Yeah. He won't. Yeah. They don't do long contracts. Well, they don't. That's true. I just, I would cry because Kyle Tucker, like, actually. destroys us, he has played us in 80 plus games and he has a one dot against us.

Like he's so, so horrifying. If I wanted to go a little out of left field, I've been seeing a few things online where I, I mean, I think, who was talking about it? I think Jerry was talking about it when he was on the podcast, belly to the Mets. Okay. Yeah, I mean, that'd be kind of, that'd be, I mean, another, another Yankee going to the Mets would be very interesting. Just add to that kind of discussion a little bit,

Yankees versus Mets. I don't know. I think that'd be kind of interesting. And now that Nimmo's gone, you know, they have a little bit more. Yeah. The belly Tucker kind of four teams, I think are laid out there. And it's who's going to do what? That's right.

And who's going to audible and who's going to make that Joe Adele phone call? Two years left? Is it happening? Oh. Next question. Didn't it like that. If we trade Joe Adele, I actually might become like just a baseball. Man.

Ooh. Mark that down. I might just become a baseball fan. Mark that down. East Coast time. Get to bed a little earlier. That's true. That sounds nice.

That sounds really nice. It sure does. No, I actually might consider it because like I just, I, I, yeah, no, I can't get into that discussion. We don't have to. I can't. Swilly. Thank you so much. Thank you.

Thank you. Thank you. Follow Swilly. And we will see you. We'll see you soon this off season. Yeah. Halo's in the mix. That's really nice of you to say.

It's really nice of you. to say thank you. Thanks, Willie. Of course. Today's episode is sponsored by Indeed. Hiring isn't just about finding someone willing to take the job. You need the right person with the right background to help your business. And if you're looking for the candidates, Indeed, sponsor jobs, have them.

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And you're happy for the Mets? I am, you know, hey, it's none of my business. I'll say that. There's a lot of things that's my business. That is none of my business. What are you looking for from your Yankees this off season? In a tight fashion. Because I know you and I could talk about that for two and a half hours.

Yeah, me and Nick, Tuttle. Yes. What do you need? What do you need? you need, Joseph? I would like a starter. Okay. I need, obviously, an alf-

actually, you know what? I would like, I would like an off-fielder. Need a first baseman, kind of. Um, and I would like a shortstop. Will I get one? Nah. Nah. You know that's not happening.

We got our guys. I heard Jolly talking about like, oh, you know, you could go get Kim and I, hey, in theory, that would be a cool idea. Yeah. I don't see that happening. I would love the Yankees to get Akamoto because of the type of player hitter profiling years. Second Okamoto mentioned. Uh, but I don't see that happening.

But again, nobody's kind of talking about him right now yet. Yet. He, I could have this totally wrong. Because are we still, are we still doing the thing with Japanese players where they're posted in like that 30-day window? I thought it was 45. It might be 45, right? Joe's points it, Carrie. So again, the window time matters there,

but Okamoto is definitely going to have like a week and a half where he's the hottest name. Yeah. It's a 45-day window open from November 21st to January 4th. Okay. Nice. I have Christmas week as Okomoto week. Like I think everyone else does their shopping. Christmas happens and now it's, oh, this guy's got a contact bat.

He can play third first in the corner. Let's play them. I like him. I do. I think it will make the Yankees really versatile. And Brian Cashman did speak about, oh, let's get the bottom of the order a little different, different hitter profiles.

That would be cool to get that. But I don't know how much of you, I don't know what it's cost is. And the Yankees are worried about that. Can I ask you a question? You can, and you did right now. What team are you most worried about in the ALE East? I mean.

That's terrific. Toronto get the nod. They're signing guys. They just went to the World Series. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And you know what? A lot of people will kind of overlook the pitcher that they just signed, but that guy's a pretty good pitcher.

A pitch pretty well in the KBO. Cody Ponce. Yeah, look pretty good. And I don't know. We'll see what happens there. So, you know, they made some signings. They fortified their rotation and let's see what they do. I don't want them to get in mind.

Hmm. But, you know, that's, I, is Bo coming back? I don't think so, right? I, it feels like Bo or Tucker was signing with Toronto. I want none. I know you do. And I mean, I do as well. But, dude, Toronto might be here.

Like I, no, they're there they are. And I think this is, well, I guess here's where I'm trying to get to in a long way, is that maybe the next era of baseball is just like power owners. Like Toronto for years has been like we have the deep pockets. The Dodgers are clearly there. Cohen, like I just got signed off to a casinos going across from the stadium. Watch out for that. Yeah, Nas.

Midlife crisis, Jolly Olive. Little craps before and after the game. A lot of gambling that happens in Flushing, boy. Any heads to the casino? I guess we should also, okay, so Blue Jays deserve all the credit. Yes. Red Sox are here and they're going to make more moves. And I think by the end of the offseason, we're going to make, damn.

Those guys are good. I mean, sorry. I mean, come on. What do you mean? I get it. You sign with the team. Let me talk crap about their rival. I get it.

It's just, it's good. I like it. I like it. And I like it. And I do, I like it for Sunny and I also like it for talking, talking Yanks posting all the clips of Sunny being like, I love New York. Don't get rock.

Wait. Hey, listen. Actually, don't get rock, pop. He gets, talking shit. He gets rocked at the stadium. Oh, yeah. There's going to be some noises. Didn't he mentioned in that same interview that he would like it,

he would have loved the opportunity to get another, to get another opportunity. Now he doesn't like it. Nice try. I guess, hey, while we're here, the other team in the ALEs that was supposed to, where are you out with the Orioles? Like, they're going to bounce back, right? They went a weird strategy last year for agencies.

Let's go no pitching. Let's see how that works. All right. They might learn from that. They had a lot of injuries. They had injuries too. When Trevor Rogers came back, he was like. pitch better than anyone literally ever.

Some of those stats were insane. So I think that they'll, you know, probably attacked the off season a little bit different. I thought that their owner wanted to spend and I heard that their GM told them like, nah, you're not spending. He's like, okay, I guess I'll listen to you. And I'm like, if you're a GM, you're the owner.

And you get the sign off to spend. You got to spend that. What's happening there? So that, I could see them doing that. I am afraid of, not afraid, but there's one player I don't want to see in the ALE East. Oh, okay. I don't want to see Joe Ryan get traded to the Red Sox. I don't want to see Joe Ryan in the ALEs, unless it's with the Yankees.

You like Joe Ryan. I like Joe Ryan. He's a nice guy. He's a really good pitcher. He met him a couple of times. Always makes the time to talk to us and recognize us. He's like a nice guy. Yes.

I don't want that conversation to then turn into, hey, man, take it easy on my yanks. I hate that conversation. Right. The one I had with crochet last year. And he didn't. He didn't. He didn't take it easy on the yanks.

He's the second biggest player I've seen. It's him. It's judged than him. His beard was kind of like low-key perfect for a guy that doesn't have any hair of top. He's dialed, man. I think he just had the first kid, if that's true. Good for him.

That's Garrett. For him. And, yeah, another guy that was just like very nice to us. And you're like, wait, dude, you might be the best pitcher in baseball. Yeah. Joe Ryan goes to the Red Sox. You're on the Red Sox. I'll have a very bad day.

Okay. And I hope this doesn't get clipped up and put up because, you know, that hopefully, that won't happen. Right. Because this is, we wouldn't clip this now. No. But if it happened. No. Then it's clipped out.

It's for dying about. Then here's crying Joseph Salonner. Nobody's clipping about it. Everyone's clipping. that's the internet no can you give me one free agent signing prediction

um yes yes yes this is okay okay I got I got a good one I think of my goes to the Padres really no I lie it goes to the Padres

you you got too happy and I wanted to take that away from a second but yeah I think it goes to the Padres I was looking at the rotation and they need help at the end of it. So I could kind of see that. Do what I want him as a Yankee? Yes, I do.

I would like him a lot. 27 years old, I feel like he's got some bit upside. You'd like the highlights. He pitches with energy. I like that. You like that. You're an energy guy. I like that he dyed his hair.

Yeah. Right? So then there's like there's some persona there to it. It's not like this cookie cutter cut and dry, played by the rules. kind of player. He's trying to like, I'm molding my own way kind of thing.

I like him. So it'd be cool. One player who gets traded this offseason. And maybe where? Um, a player that gets traded. Let's go with, hmm.

Oh, I've stumped. No, no, no. I think Sandy will get traded. Okay. I think it makes sense.

Two? I think he'll get traded to, two, tune in a few for, no, okay. It's not this kind of show. I think he'll get traded to.

I think he'll end up getting traded to the Yankees. I think the Yankees will do that move. Very bold of you and your Yankee hat and your Yankee hoodie. I think he'll get traded to the Yankees. He probably gets traded, right? I'm very impartial. I guess they could. Right?

You don't know what kind of hat this is. I don't. And yeah, the hoodie. What about the sleeve that show? You don't know what kind of. Now you're very impartial. Joe's that's kind of, I guess there's one last thing. You wanted to comment on Hideki Matsui's old porn collection?

Yeah, has a, like, he doesn't shy away from it. It's a fantastic collection of adult entertainment, and he is an adult, and he's being entertained by his, I don't know what's in there. Right. What categories is Hideki Matsui click? on is the question. I don't know. I don't know.

I think all of them. B.B. What? Tune in and a few so you can be able to find out. To Blitzball Battle 7. Yeah, yeah. I'm now on warehouse games. Joseph Solano at Joe's McFly.

If you're not following him, what are you doing? Wait. You don't think that the Yankees are going to make significant signings? When did I say that? It feels that way. I think the Yankees are making, I think they're the Tucker team now. I've convinced myself.

You don't think they're going to Cody Bellinger, for sure? I don't know. I don't know. I think they're... Here's what I think the Yankees are going to do. I think they're going to pay for hitting, and I think they're going to trade for pitching. That I think they're going to trade for a Joe Ryan

or Edward Cabrera to save money there, because those guys are making like $8 million for a starting pitcher. Are we talking? And that's how you start. an episode. Thanks, Joseph. We're going to put this at the very end. Thank you.

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Yeah. How are you feeling? I'm good. I'm good. I'm good. I'm getting excited for winter meetings. I think it's going to be juicy. Yeah. Orlando, not necessarily, I think we're just going to be trapped in a hotel that it's going to be one of those you walk out in three days and you're like, I could have been anywhere in the world.

But I was just in a hotel room. How is fast? The Phillies. Yep. The Phillies. A big off season, and I feel like we've said this, a couple Phillies off seasons. But this one, the guys who are available to the world,

Real Mudo, Schwartz. It feels like there's a shuffle coming. I guess where are you at with all of them? I heard you mention it about a week ago that I do believe Nick Casiano's going to be moved. That's the guy who I think is going to get dealt. I think it's important that they bring these guys back though. I think the only two teams that could push for

Schwarber and take him away from us will be Boston and Cincinnati. Romuto, there was just a report that came out for him recently that he's interested in the short-term deal to stay on the good team. I think that's good for us. Last year you wanted to see Raphael Marshaun come up and show you a little something so that if Romuto walks, that's okay.

He didn't. So I think Romuto on a one or two-year deal is actually extremely important for this team, especially for the pitching staff, which has been one of the best in the league the last few years. But yeah, this offseason is a little bit different than the last few. I still think the Phillies have the same problem that they've had the last few off seasons where they need power from the right side. It would be nice if it was an outfielder because then it would fit,

and there just isn't any. Teo is never leaving the Dodgers last year. I don't know who on the market fits that bill. So I think they got to prioritize bringing back the productive players that are currently UFAs. Taylor Ward got traded. That would have been a guy, but that's gone. The Phillies were rumored and linked to him before.

The Phillies have a lot of history with trading with the Angels, too. I still don't think a Joe Adele is off the table. Just don't mention that to Swilly. I beg of you. I beg of you. What's going on? Is Bohm? Is this the year that that happens?

Or do we just do the whole dance again? We probably are going to do the whole dance again. That could come down to Breggman because if they move Bome, I think Bregman is a free agent the Phillies would look at, but you have to do the Bome move. First, if that were the case. Bome is just, Boe's a weird one because he's a good player.

He's a productive player. But like I just said, this team needs right-handed pop. Right. And he's playing the position where you can find it. And he's not providing it. There's only one year left of arbitration. You look at the stats, especially the runs batted in, how he hits with runners in scoring position.

Someone's going to pay him a little bit of money next year. I don't know if the Phillies are that team. So if you're going to make a decision on him, it has to be this win. He also, for me, it's, I call it my Eddie Rosario rule that, like, his stats won't blow you away, but he's always, like, in the middle of the lineup. Like, it's never Alec Bohm hit eighth this year and he racked up stats. Like, if you're planning against the Phillies, Alec Bohm has been...

He's been in the 4-5 hole. Right. Granite, though, I will say, I think there's been a Reese Hoskin-sized hole in the lineup for a few years now. And maybe there's even been a little bit of pressure on him to fill that power gap. He's a free agent. is a free agent. Interesting. If there's a Schwaber

Audible for one year of Reese to try to figure it out. A try me out deal would be great. Eagles are about to bring Slay back. Just the whole city. Let's just start doing the repeats. Go birds is what I've heard you saying. What is the Schwerber? Okay.

Schwerber first audible feels like Bregman. Correct? Yep. If it's not Schwerber or Bregman, what's the, is there, That is where I think we are going to see a shift in this team in spring training. Okay. I don't know if there's anyone else out there that fits the team.

You got to bring Bader back. You have to bring Bader back at that point. Okay. And then I want to see these kids play. Yeah. I've been told for the last five years that Dave Dombrowski is going to deplete this prospect pool and go all in every year. Justin Crawford is still here. Aidan Miller is still here.

Andrew Painter is still here. They were all in AAA last year. I need to see if these guys can play now. Right. It's about time. We made it to this point. We need it now. And this team, admittedly, hasn't had that much production from their

Arb and pre-arb players. That's where they've really been lacking, especially on the offensive side. Stott's been great defensively. If it wasn't for Nico Horner, he'd had some gold gloves on his shelf. Hasn't really progressed offensively, though. Brandon Marsh has been wishy-washy. FOM's been good at times, but he's not providing the pop you need. This team needs one of these young guys that come up and fit in with the veterans

and be a productive piece of the lineup. That's what I want to see this offseason, especially in spring training. Who's the team in the NLEs that you're the most worried about? Always the Mets. Really? Oh, Uncle Steve. Okay, ever since Steve.

I got to respect Uncle Steve. They put their own tax bracket in for this man. Yeah. You never know what he's going to do. There's never a free agents that they can't at least give a phone call to. Yeah. So it's the Mets just strictly on. They can go all in on anyone in it.

I saw them give a guy $800 million to play baseball. Yeah. And then they're one of them. And they're already signing guys this off season. Just throw 50 mil at Devin Williams. Let's start making moves. They concern me. They concern me a little bit more than the Braves,

who I think do a better job of contracting their players and filling out the whole rosters. The Mets are kind of just like go for it right now. But that does scare me the most. They're deep pockets that we don't. Extremely. It feels like we haven't seen their, oh, shit, move. Yeah.

And this could be the off season. Like they got Soto like, if they don't bring back Pete, like, then what has your team done? I don't know. You're probably right. Although the Braves, I feel like they have to do a move. I don't know what it is. Yeah, I don't know what it is either.

Is it Bichette? Is it Framber? Is it a trade? I, um, again, this is, this is dark Yankee stuff, people. I've been wondering, like, would they move on from Ronald? Like, there's just been some weird stuff there. for the past couple years, like, could that be their organizational shake? But if they do that, they still have to bring in a ton of stuff.

That's Ronald Acuna on a great contract. The Braves are going to do something. I didn't know if they still had the fear factor, but Uncle Steve. Uncle Steve gives me the fear factor. I don't think it's any one player, and I will say the one thing I want to happen the most this offseason outside of my fills is Pete Alonzo going somewhere else. Get him out of here. That would be nice.

He's played a hundred games against the Phillies, got 18 homer, 62 RBIs, and they're always big hits. I'm sick of it. I'm the polar bear on a team I can enjoy him for once. That's what I want. And in that, in your guy's stadium, P is. Yep. Fly ball P.

That's. Oh, look, another right-handed power hitter on the market that doesn't fit the Phillies defensively. Can Bryce go back to outfield? Is that in play or not? He said that he would if it fit. But at this point, yeah. And he's also, he's a legitimately good defensive first baseman, too.

It's not like we're just hiding him there. He's good. Roll that. Okay. Give me one player signing this offseason. Any team, not Phillies. I have Kyle Tucker going there, Toronto Blue Jace. Okay. I love Kyle Tucker in Toronto.

I'm kind of maybe banking on he's not going to want to go to the Dodgers a little bit. But I just, I think that would be a great fit. They're probably losing Boba Shett. They're coming off a World Series appearance. You want to keep that lineup elite, left-handed bat that's going to go right around Vladdy. Maddie, yeah. That would fire me up. I'm, uh, people have now heard this a couple times.

I'm just in the spin cycle on it. At first I was Dodgers because it's just like, that's what they do. That's the team, blah, blah, blah. And then I was like, oh, shoot, Blue Jays. Kind of everything you just said and building off the World Series and that they could have the top offer easily. And then I, again, I read a bunch of stuff online that was like the Yankees. And I was like, wait, that's, I kind of like, should I know, should I want Tucker? I don't know. It's kind of, is it weird that the top free agent doesn't have like the two teams?

Or maybe it is. Maybe it's just Toronto and L.A. or the Yankees. These are the teams you want. Yeah. Well, I'll say this, sidebar. I think this is part of why the last handful of free agencies have been going so long. Why are there 20 teams not calling this guy? Yeah. There should be so many teams calling this guy. That's a whole other deal. Give me one player who gets trading. Gets traded?

Yeah. Oh, I got you a big one. Could tell Marte to the Boston Red Sox. Sorry. Could tell Marte to the Boston Red Sox. I don't know how that would work because, you know, he's owed $90 million. I think there's a player option on there too, which bumps it up over 100. But it's a good number for who he is, which means he's not,

usually when you get these post-arbitration contracts get traded, you don't get a whole lot back because you're moving the money. That's a good number. contract. You're probably going to have to add something in their value, and it's not just a here's one prospect. We'll take your money. I don't know what the Red Sox can do, but I think that is the best fit. And the rumors are swirling that the Diamondbacks are thinking about it. So they still, they very much have the prospect capital. Yeah, I guess I've, I've been telling myself, Catell-Marté isn't available just because they kind of just gave him that extension.

And he's been in, I was going to say, Arizona for life. I don't forget the first two Seattle years. I did. I just saw it on his page. But like, I don't know. Arizona operates a little differently that it's like, I know there was some weird stuff going on. And again, I don't know how weird it got. And we know, Dalton Feeley gives us whispers that you never know where they're coming from.

But like, you know, weird. Tell Marté should probably just run out four years of Arizona, be a legend there. And they went to the World Series. That division's ugly. And maybe I'm just talking myself out of Boston. Because I obviously, he's really good. Yeah. Yep.

Oh, I didn't like that one, Shelfy. Sorry. It's okay. I appreciate it. What do you got coming up this off season? What should people be looking for? I just, one of these big names have got to go early. I'd like to see Tucker or Schwerber go first so that we can just get the ball rolling.

The Schwerber thing has my most interest, though. The Cincinnati is all in. They're giving them keys to the city, honoring them before games last year, midseason. The Reds have never given out more than 63 minutes. million dollars in free agency. Mike Mustaka's at 63 mil is the most money they've given out. Schwabers agent, while he's not Scott Boris, Casey closed, you know, he's done Kershaw, he's done drinky, he did Jeter, he did Tanaka.

He gets those big money. Roger Clemens, maybe? Yeah. Maybe. I think he's going to get paid. I just think it's going to come down to whether or not the Reds are willing to go there. Once that domino falls, I think the whole offseason is going to get rolled. Schwartz.

Shelf, I feel like we're going to be checking in with you at some point pretty soon because your Phillies are going to make significant moves. It's just where, how, and what will they use those prospects? Everyone follows Shelfy. Forgotten rotten. Rotten. Rotten. Rotten.

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How are you? I'm better now. It's good to be back with my godfather, as always excited to talk. Have you talked baseball? I think this is my first time on talking baseball. Whoa. I didn't know this until our jam baseball videos. You're a ball knower.

Sure. I like to think. You're in the game. I'd like to think I know a little bit more. You're not just some tiger's street trash. No. Well, you are. Yeah.

I am. But no, you're a ball guy. For sure. Talking baseball, um, for those, that haven't seen you are warehouse games, warehouse challenges. Go subscribe. And big Tigers fan, how are we doing with the Motor City Kiddies? It's a lot.

You know, there was a rough stretch of like 10 years there. We haven't made the playoffs. And I was like 12 years old the last time I made the playoffs before the last couple of years. So like, I said it's been an emotional roller coaster with the Tigers being in the playoffs. And I've loved every second. But this offseason's been scary for a lot of reasons.

I'm sure we'll talk about that a little bit. Yeah. Where are we going? Is this Bregman Part 2? Is this school? Scary. Scary, yeah. Where are you at with that?

Are you mentally just like, it's going to happen prepared for the worst, or is it, I don't know? I think at first I was prepared for the worst. Like, I really thought he was gone, but over the last couple of weeks, there's been some news that's come out where like, I think he might stick around.

I'll tell you what I've told everybody that's around the office, like the winter meetings scare me. I think if he gets dealt, it'll be at the winter meetings. I think if he survives the winter meetings, he's a tiger on opening day. I like that.

mentality for you. But the winner meeting is going to be scary because, you know, you're going to checking your phone and checking all the updates and everything's going to be, oh, this team's interested in Scoobel and what's it going to take to get them. So it'll be a lot. But we'll see. Ooh. I, here's what I'll tell you.

And again, my hit rate on this is 50%. That's pretty good. That's pretty good. And that was a lie. I just made it up. I don't see the Scoobel trade. And I think I've told you this or I've said this on here that, like, the value you guys need to get back.

For the current Detroit Tigers, who are the favorites in the Central, with this roster right now, I would agree. And the value proposition that other teams put on one year of Scoobel, even though that's a very impressive year, I don't see it. I don't see how you can get a trade done that Detroit could possibly go back to their fan base

and say, we did this, and have the other team saying, we gave up XYZ assets for one year of Scoobel when we live in this baseball world of nothing's promised, anything can happen. I don't see it. And I've said this a lot too, like on my own Instagram, TikTok, whatever, but... Follow. Yeah, follow.

You trade Tarek Scuble. I just think that's such a punch to, like, your fan base's face. Oh, the whole org. Like I said, we had that longest playoff drought. We were tied with the Angels until we made the playoffs. And now the fact that we're competitive again, arguably the best pitcher in baseball, to trade him away right now would really kill this fan base, I feel like.

And not only that, but like, you do have to, if you're going to trade them, you better hit because so much value out of Terek Scouble. And like the last big name pitcher that the Tigers traded, Justin Verlander. Right. We got to watch him go win World Series with the Astros. And you know who we got back in that trade? Das Cameron, short stint with the Tigers, Franklin Perez, everyone played for the Tigers, and Jake Rogers.

Who Tigers fans love Jake. Hey! We love Jake Rogers. Hey, mustache, what's up? But like, that's your backup catcher now. So you missed on Verlander. if you trade school, you better hit. I didn't know Jake Rogers was in that trade.

You guys also sent Juan Ramirez over. Thank you. People don't talk about that. I know. Let's see what he's doing. You need to give some Juan Ramirez love. It's not looking great. So, okay, then what is your, what's the dream board?

Reggie? Or is it? Yeah, I mean, it's hard not to say, Bregman. He's the perfect fit on this team, so it makes so much sense. We kind of have a hole at third base. like I said that the biggest problem for the Tigers in the postseason was one, we didn't have right-handed bats and two. We like struck out way too much with runners in scoring position.

Bregman's a guy who's done it before. He's going to put the ball in play. He works good at bats. He's a right-handed hitter. I don't really know who the leader of like the Tigers' clubhouse is, but you get Bregman. He kind of fills that spot. Another direction I really wanted to go,

and this was a little bit before Glaborator has accepted the qualifying offer because I would like this guy to play second base. But like, again, right-handed bat. contact, Boba Chet. Like, I've been a big fan of Boba Chet forever. That was a thing. You could slide him to third even. Like, you could even move him to short.

Havi's proven he can play center. You can move Havi to third. Like, hobby's kind of proven he can play anywhere. So I think those are the two big things I'd like to see us do. And, like, I was literally just talking about this with people in the office. Again, like, if you keep Terik Scoobel and you sign one or two great right-handed bats, right? Not only do I think you become, like, the favorite in the A.L. Central, I think you

become a legit favorite to win the American League. Like, do you have the starting pitching? The bullpen was great. A couple of right-handed bats to go along with a lineup that is kind of missing some stars but has a lot of good, like, debt pieces who are good, productive players. A couple of bats in this team is really good. How much money is Scoobel going to get a lot? I mean, he's going to set the record, right, for sure.

How much he commands. Because, yeah, I was just going to say, you know, do you use Beset money to get Scoobel, but also that might get you halfway home, right? Yeah. Depending where the numbers land. No, it's an interesting point. Wow. Okay.

What team are you most worried about in the division? So kind of interesting. I think the Kansas City Royals scare me a little bit more than like Cleveland would. I think going into it will be a three-team race for sure between those three teams. But the Royals have done a good job building a nice core. I always say this. Like they're one through four-hiters, Bobby Witt, Pascotch, Mike L. Garcia, Salvador Perez, who, by the way, still doing it.

Put up 30 homers and 100 on guys last. year. It's still a great offensive catcher. Like those top four guys are really good. But when we're playing them, it's like you get through those guys. It's like, okay. Oh, good now. So again, kind of similar to the Tigers. Like if they add a couple of pieces to kind of make their lineup a little bit deeper, I could see the Royals being a very good team.

The lack of production, they get out of their outfield. The year in, year out is nuts. Sorry. Sorry, Royal Shrapnel. And I, Jeff Passon, maybe you've heard of them. I remember I was surprised when he was like, I expect the Royals to be good every year because of Bobby Witt. Yeah. Which I was like, baseball doesn't work like that.

Not to Swilly, who unfortunately gets a ton of shrapnel in this office. They famously had trout for years and that's tough to bounce back from. I guess the difference here is Kansas City's pitching has kind of been respectable for years, even their down years. It's a really good five-man rotation right now. It's really strong now. that I just thought it was interesting. Passon was like, if you have a guy who can get you seven war a year, you basically need one other dude in the lineup.

And if you can pitch a little bit, you're going to be above 500 in today's baseball. Yeah, the Royals, I just, I need to look at the lineup and be like they can be top 15. Yeah. Oh, agree. And I think there are a couple pieces away from doing that. I know. And it's also like the frustrating part of the AL Central because that division is so up for

grabs. It just takes one team to be like, okay, we're going to be the team who wins this. And it's like nobody wants to just take the bowl by the horns and win them. Have a good six weeks and then don't poop your pants. Pardon my French. No, no, no problem. I have a trade for the Royals that I day dreamed on Wake and Jake the other day. One year for one year, boobitch for Jaron. Yeah, don't hate it.

Like, yeah, they need an outfield who can hit and Jared Duran can provide that. They can get rid of boobich and they still have good start. Who says no? I think the Red Sox. I think the Red Sox. Sorry, Chris Povich. Give me, it doesn't have to be your kitties. Give me one free agent signing somewhere.

Interesting. Okay, you're going to like this. Great. But I've been talking to Jolly about this for a long time. The Happy Gry, Jolly Allif. I think Pete Alonzo stays in New York. Okay. I think he goes to the Yankees.

Why is that? I mean, it just makes a lot of sense. You like it? Yeah, at first base, Pete Alonzo is going to hit a ton of tanks in that ballpark, you put him in a lineup that's already great with guys, like, Judge Stanton, hopefully when Bellinger back, like, Pete Alonzo would be a great fit in that ballpark. And obviously, you talk about who's going to pay them. Not a problem for the Nichies.

Yeah, first base is really interesting. Every Ben Rice number is, like, great. Like, if Ben Rice, this is horribly rude to Ben Rice. If Ben Rice looked like Giancarlo's Stanton, Yankees' first base is about it wouldn't be a discussion. You wouldn't be saying that. And that's so dumb. So I don't think they're going to invest there. If it happens, man, you just do the whole baseball.

This is before your time. Nicholas Cage gone in 60 seconds mean. Let's go. You say let's go. You're like, I don't think that's the fit, but screw it. Judge and Pete are going to, him and Stan, they're going to hit 150 homers. We'll figure it out.

I'm glad you brought that to the table. Right. I don't. I like it. Yeah, like on paper, I like it, because, I feel like it's a move that you don't really think of making sense right away. Right. But then it's like Pete Alonzo would be awesome of use in New York.

The Mets take Soto. You guys take Alonzo. Hmm. Give me one player who gets traded. Okay. I like this one a lot. I've been big on this. I'm big on the Texas Rangers in general.

I would like to see them do a lot. I think that's another division that's up for the taking. And they kind of need a catcher. And there's been a lot of talk about Adley Rutchman. I would love to see Ruchman go to the Texas Rangers. Like that's another team with a great rotation. You've got a great core there. I know a couple pieces are gone.

Simeon's gone. You bring in M.O. But the Texas Rangers are a good team. And that needs a backstop. And it feels like the Orioles are kind of ready to part ways with Russia. Yeah, I just, I like it. I thought you were jumping to Sean Murphy for a second. Because after all that, Sean Murphy's contract is like three for 45,

which everyone's talking about for real moodo. And it's like, you know, young, bold calf. People say that about you and me a little bit when it comes to warehouse. that all the time. Yeah, I get it. I guess for me, Adley, they're selling so low. Like, Adley Rushman comes out and has two good months,

and he's back in, like, Best Catcher and Baseball discussion. And some of the stats are just so bizarre that, hey, again, if you're the Orioles and you think something else, not that this could be the peak of his value, I couldn't. Baseball's a sixth sport. Yeah. And catchers just don't exist, that, yeah, Texas, what is Texas going to do?

What is Baltimore going to do? Yeah, I like what you're saying. So you're saying like if the Orioles hung on to Rutchman, let them play a little bit better, and then at the deadline, think about moving them if you're out of the hunt. I just think the ALE East, too, the Orioles are kind of out right now. The ALE East is tough, Yankees, Red Sox. I just, I'm not going to put any of that voodoo into the ether because last year coming into the season, the Blue Jays were the fourth team in the AAL East.

And Baltimore still has, not much has changed. They need a little juice. They need a little pitching. They've already done some bullpen work. Helsey Kittridge back. That I don't know what to do with them. I have, I'm just, I'm going into next year with a little Baltimore bird's fear. Okay.

Interesting. Yeah, right? I was like the opposite. Last year I had the oil was finishing last, I think, in my predictions. Oh, well, look at you. Whoa. I thought the blue jays were pretty good, too. Whoa.

Good for you, man. Thank you, my brother. James. Talking. Thank you. Appreciate you. I think we're going to talk some ball with you during this year. I would love that.

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What do we like there? Alonzo to the Yang side. Scoubles getting traded? Coutel Marte to the Red Sox? Yeah.