Talkin' Baseball (MLB Podcast) - Juan Soto Signs Largest Deal In Sports History With The Mets!

Episode Date: December 9, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello and welcome to talking baseball. Hello, we're here. Juan Soto is a New York Met. I think it was 100 years, 100 billion. No one's happy about it. Let's talk about it. There's no music. I just remember there's no music.
Starting point is 00:00:20 How weird is that? Jake Stewart, actually, I'm not going to say my full name. I don't want you to remember me if this is your first time seeing me. Juan Soto's a New York Met. Trevor Pluf, Minnesota, twin third baseman, Phillies, Rangers, A's, Rays.
Starting point is 00:00:38 Thank you, everyone, for tuning in, and subscribe if you're hearing all that stuff. Treve, tell them what happened. Wonsoto chose the Mets, essentially. We're learning more about what's coming in the contract, the details. Originally, it was reported $15 years, $765 million,
Starting point is 00:00:56 no deferrals, not a penny. Now, again, this is, we're doing this in real time, reacting to it. That would account for $51 million per year. Two minutes ago, a tweet came out that said there was an opt out after the fifth year. The Mets can void that opt out and not let him go anywhere, but the price goes up to $55 million a year. So essentially this contract is going to be a $15 year over $800 million deal. So get the six out of your mind. get the seven out of your mind we're talking eight 800 ms
Starting point is 00:01:38 and steve cohen did his thing i think that's my biggest takeaway jake i don't even want to hear you talk right now i like your hat i think i actually i don't but like i know it's a cool hat so i'm just going to give that like you know give you some props for there steve cohen came into this league and we said is this guy going to change the game and he said he was going to and then he didn't Right? He didn't. He did a few things that were cool. Like he, you know, paid down some salaries to get a better prospect. We're like, hey, I like that. He brought in David Stearns and said, you know what? Not only am I going to spend at the major level, but I'm going to improve our player development. I'm going to, you know, bolster our farm system up. This is the shit that people were wanting from Steve Cohen. If you're a Mets fan and you say, we got the richest owner in the sport, this right here is. is what it's about.
Starting point is 00:02:33 He went out and took the Yankees' prize possession away from them. Reports are, Jake, that the Yankees offered 16 years, $760 million. Now, I'm sure there was some details in that contract as well. The Mets one year less, $5 million more on the original deal. and so I think my biggest takeaway here. Yes, Steve Cohen did what he said he was going to do, did what people expected him to do. But I think he was able to just have a better meeting with Juan Soto, sell a better story with Wonsoto. Because the Yankees had him.
Starting point is 00:03:21 Wonson knew what the Yankees were about. They offered him a massive deal, a deal that, you know, is close enough where if he was Was it partial to the Yankees? He would have signed with the Yankees. I think Steve Cohen, I said this would see Rosie. I think Steve Cohen promised him the world, and I think Juan Sotom believes that Steve Cohen can give him the world. And I think that was the difference.
Starting point is 00:03:43 I don't think the Steinbrenners can promise the same things that Steve Cohen can. Those are just facts. Prev. Beautiful, by the way, and thank you. And it's the tip of the iceberg. And I was about to say, do you want to start Juan? Do you want to start Mets? Do you want to start Yanks?
Starting point is 00:04:03 I think we'll just stir it in the pot because you already did. And, dude, we just, we recorded talking Yanks before this. Dude, shout out to John Boy Media. Baseball today is out. Talking Yanks is out. Here we are talking baseball, the end of the line somehow. I thought we were the shots. What happened?
Starting point is 00:04:22 Shea Station is ripping and good for them. And that's kind of where it does start, Trev. We ended our episode of Talking Yanks with like some bad fan fiction of Juan Soto didn't like being a Yankee. Or more importantly, Juan Soto wanted to be a Met. He wants to wear the captain's badge. He wants to be the most identifiable met ever. Maybe he wants that. Maybe he wants to be the man who turned a franchise around and take over.
Starting point is 00:04:53 Maybe he will. when Aaron Judge was a free agent, one of our going away lines was if they don't sign Aaron Judge, you're not the Yankees. He just broke Babe Ruth's home run record. Like, he's about to be your captain. You guys lose Aaron Judge. You're not the Yankees.
Starting point is 00:05:11 This is not that. I'm not happy. This is more so the Mets have arrived at the party. It's what you're saying. They've got the richest owner. And we talked about if you're the richest owner, owner and you really want to do this. There's other ways to spend your money, like slightly more profitable ways, although every sports team ever has made money. So it's a pretty good business venture.
Starting point is 00:05:35 Not every team, every professional team at this point. Dude, dude, the Mets are here. I don't know what they're going to do with the rest of their free agency. I don't know what they're going to do. Dude, I got to go. They got to go, Jake. I looked at their lineup and I was like, I'm all in on Mark Viantos for the next decade because I think he's going to learn with Soto. Like, I'm already into that sick stuff that this is the biggest day in Mets history besides them getting announced. I mean, look, they were a series away from playing against the Yankees in the World Series. Add Juan Soto to that.
Starting point is 00:06:09 Now, honestly, if I'm a Mets fan, I'm ecstatic and all these things, I think they got to go. I think you've got to add more. I think they've got to replace a lot of starting pitching there. I think this signals that they will. There's no way you sign Juan Soto and then just say, yeah, we're good. We'll just figure it out offensively. And that's not the case. You've got to pass up the Big Bag Dodgers.
Starting point is 00:06:30 Hey, the Braves weren't even around last year. Them and the Rangers never even sniffed competition levels last year. They're going to be, the Braes will be back. The Phillies are here. The Dodgers are who they are. So to me, this signals we're all in, obviously. It's a massive deal, but they need to go out. There's going to be a front line starting pitch.
Starting point is 00:06:52 sure within the next couple days that the Mets are going to sign. You can mark my words. Because this can't be the only move that you make. If you make this move, it's, you're jumping in, man. Like, you're in the deep end. So you've got to continue to go. And I think Steve Cohen has no problem with this. And I, again, I said this already with Chris. This is my real thought process on, okay? We talk about simulations a lot, right? Steve Cohen's sim. Let's talk about Steve Cohen's simulation for a sec right here, all right? Just, just bear with me for a second. before buying the Mets Steve Cohen
Starting point is 00:07:26 was known as a guy who was barred from the SEC right? I think I have that terminology correctly. Whoa. Right? Like rich guy, but like,
Starting point is 00:07:37 I don't really know either. He got in trouble financially. Rich guy, but if you Googled his name, that's what would come up. Rich guys like to do things they think differently than the rest of us. He wants his legacy to be different.
Starting point is 00:08:00 This, buying the Mets, taking Juan Soto from the Yankees, trying to win a World Series. Google Steve Cohen's name now. None of that stuff is coming up, Jake. And I think to him, that's worth a billion dollars, at least. Like, he's willing to do that. This is the type of shit we're dealing with with Steve Cohen. And you know what?
Starting point is 00:08:20 I freaking love it. I love it. The sport needs stuff like this, Jake. It needs a new... It does. It needs a new Darth Vader. I don't know. The Yankees.
Starting point is 00:08:31 Are they the Death Star anymore? Okay. I'm serious. Jake, this is this signing... Okay, I know I'm getting crazy here, but this is real. This signing has ramifications for the future of the sport. Big time. I agree.
Starting point is 00:08:48 About the sport globally. The way people view franchises. This has changed. He was supposed to be a Yankee, dude. He got a taste. They brought him to the World Series, man. I know he's won one before, but you go to the World Series in pinstripes.
Starting point is 00:09:05 You're supposed to want to stay a Yankee, man. And Juan sort of bucked that trend, and I think Steve Cohen had a lot to do with it. Today's episode is sponsored by Corona, the beer for the fan who never loses. How do you like that? and we're going to talk a lot about that. But here's what I mean.
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Starting point is 00:10:15 Please subscribe and go check that out. Trev, man, I've got so many. questions for you because I think what you said is on the nose. I mean, what Cohen has done for his reputation and potentially for the Mets franchise of just changing the whole narrative, we will see. You mentioned the simulation's been good to Cohen. It's been pretty good to me. Like I'm, stoked I'm here talking ball at, you know, almost midnight on my Sunday where I was clearly trying to relax and go into Monday. How much do I ask, Steve, genuine question, how much do I ask Steve Cohen to change my fandom.
Starting point is 00:10:53 50 mil? Oh, wow. Like I got, you know, I've, Treb, I've started this sick life. I'm talking, ball. You know, I'm a diehard Yankees fan. It's my life. I love the Yankees.
Starting point is 00:11:07 I've turned it into my livelihood. How much do I get from Uncle Steve to just change my whole identity? I'm Metz Jake now. I'll be honest with you. I know that's just kind of like a joke thing you're doing right now. A little bit.
Starting point is 00:11:20 to change the guy that has a billboard in front of Yankee Stadium every year for opening day to become a Mets fan. I don't know about 50Ms, bro. I'm not going to lie, you might have overvalued yourself a little bit. That's what I'm asking. That's what I'm asking, dude. I think it could be a seven-figure thing. I'm serious. Look, I'm telling you, man.
Starting point is 00:11:44 Yeah. I've hung around. Yeah. Some B words. Okay. That means billionaires. Oh, okay. That's good.
Starting point is 00:11:54 And, you know, the other things, too, but I hung around these guys. They think differently, man. Yeah. Like, because everything, they don't, they don't, day to day means nothing to them. Nothing. Day to day is, what? My, they'll make whatever they need to make happen. It's about legacy and, and, and what can I change to my side?
Starting point is 00:12:19 It is. I don't think you're far off, Jake. I think if seriously, if you got in the talks with Steve Cohen and said, I'll be a Mets fan for you. And I'm obviously a diehard Yankee fan. I think he would value that pretty highly.
Starting point is 00:12:31 I think that's what he's trying to do, Jake. I think that's the purpose of all. That's what I'm saying. This is, Trev, this is my episode of Black Mirror. Like Uncle Steve, he sends the email right now.
Starting point is 00:12:43 And he's like, hey, 12 mil to become a Mets fan. And I, I screenshot it. I'm like, no way, dude. like I got a good life ahead of me whatever next email is like 25 mil
Starting point is 00:12:53 my fuck wait are you saying you would turn down 12 mil right now I don't know dude like I'm pretty happy I don't need a lot I like me thanks and I like baseball I think you should take that to Steinbearing's and be like I got 12
Starting point is 00:13:10 mil on this side bro what's up clearly clearly they're not getting there um Trev let's finish Let's finish the Mets for a second. Actually, no. Juan Soto, dude, something that we started.
Starting point is 00:13:26 We were the number one labor pot in the world. That's when we won the people over. Yeah. There was times when I was like, Trev, salary floor would be so good for the game. How come we never consider the salary cap? I know that. And players, dude, you would give me a stink guy.
Starting point is 00:13:46 You don't normally give me. and you're like, no, dude, salary cap doesn't happen. You won me over. This is it. This doesn't happen without a salary. Fifteen years, three quarters of a B word. That's insane. More, eight hundred.
Starting point is 00:14:03 That's insane. I honestly don't, I don't even like talking about money like that because, yeah, like, nobody, none of us can fathom that. We really can't, dude. It is just a whole, it's a completely different. type of level of money. Like we just can't really imagine that. And people work their ass off day in and day out.
Starting point is 00:14:26 Obviously never going to sniff anything even close to that. But I will say this. It just goes to show you like what these teams are worth and what they're making and the financials. Like, don't let them tell you that they can't. Don't let them tell you that they can't. Yes. there's so much more on all this and look again
Starting point is 00:14:50 I think a lot of times talking money is faux pa but this is the sports world bro we're talking about a contract I want you to think about a few things here that have been crossing through my mind Jake first of all 15 years what that's a long time bro
Starting point is 00:15:03 yeah 15 years 5 year opt out we should talk five year opt out not gonna happen they can void the opt out if he's just horrible then then it's still gonna yeah it's still gonna be 15
Starting point is 00:15:17 because he wouldn't have opt out. Yeah. So, like, he's going to be there for 15 freaking years. I'm assuming it. There's a no trade clause. I'm assuming that. That's, right? I had to see that yet.
Starting point is 00:15:30 I think you can assume that. 15 years. So breaks Fernando Tautis's record. He signed a 14-year deal. I was there when Bryce Harper signed the 13-year deal. I got into the Phillies Clubhouse in Clearwater and spring training, and I heard the news. I said, 13-year-old.
Starting point is 00:15:47 years. That's a lifetime. And now we're talking 15 for Soto. This is where I get sick, Jake. And this is where I actually was like, I had to stop myself to think about this a little bit. Let's just call it a smooth 800. Present day value, $800 million. Right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:11 Shohey Otani's present day value, his deal was valued at $461 million. Right. Dodgers. Right. Are either the luckiest, the smartest. I don't know what you want to call them. But that Shohei Otani's deal looks like an absolute steel now. It is.
Starting point is 00:16:33 It did before. I know that, but putting it up next to this contract. Holy crap. Aaron Judge is making peanuts. Yeah. Compared to Juan Soda. This money is insane. and we're back to people used to talk about baseball money
Starting point is 00:16:51 baseball money all the time and then the NBA came yeah oh shit NBA money a couple quarterback signed for a lot of money NFL stills to work all that stuff out but the NBA kind of took it over those super max deals but this is what they're talking about with baseball money man this is like I mean that that sounds like a like a star soccer player deal
Starting point is 00:17:14 although I don't know what they are and I know they earn a lot I mean, I think they've broken a billy, but this is right there. Maybe the more important thing is the next Juan Soto will easily be there because we see new record contracts every year. Trev, yeah, and this could have been a perfect storm of Cohen wanting to leave his imprint, Boris trying to bounce back from his free agency last year, and whatever. Scottie B. How about that? How about we were talking with Scottie B going to be the big agent next year? he's doing okay he's doing okay
Starting point is 00:17:49 you're doing real good Treb I want to talk some ball a little bit because we danced around it and like the the Mets thing I think we've driven home the impact I said it's the biggest day in Mets history maybe that was a little melodramatic
Starting point is 00:18:05 but man with a new it could end up being with a new owner and a new star player you're on a path for that he's the best hitter I've ever seen. You know, there's going to be a day when I'm old. That means, he's the best hitter I've ever seen.
Starting point is 00:18:24 Easy. You think he's a better hitter than Aaron Judge? Trev. When we were talking the Golden App Bat Rule or you clicked on a Golden App Bat article, and it said, it says, imagine if Juan Soto could come up again. Like, it's not shots fired at Judge. his power and the zone he's in right now is incredible, but you can get him out with the right pitches if you want it.
Starting point is 00:18:51 I mean, obviously, you're going to lose a lot of battles. Dude, Soto commands the zone. It's bonds. It's bonds without the steroids. And, dude, what if he gets better, Trev? Did you get better at 27, 28? Because he's not there yet. Yeah, maybe.
Starting point is 00:19:11 Maybe that's not the easy. Don't use me. These don't compare me to anything once in a day. He's going to make more than I made in my career in half a season. So, you know, did Max Muncie get better? Did Justin Turner? Like, dude, he's entering the start of his prime. And he's already on the history boards.
Starting point is 00:19:28 Dude, with Lindor's season, Soto, Viantos, Nimo, Marte. And like you said, they're going to get going. Like, dude, Mets games are must watch next year. It's incredible. Yeah, I don't know. On the Mets side, again, I think this has to be the start. Like, they have to go get pitchers now. They have to go do that.
Starting point is 00:19:51 Yeah. I haven't even done this math. I don't know if it's on our sheet. How much tax is Steve Cohen paying now? Do we have that on the sheet? That number doesn't get to him. It's a non-issue. Bobby Gals, if you can figure out
Starting point is 00:20:11 what's the payrolls going to be next year, year and what taxes they're paying. I just am very curious. Does this, does this $800 million deal end up being a $1.6 million deal because they're paying dollar for dollar on it? Now, they might, and this has never been a math, Bob. Rob, see what you can find out. I mean, they had so much money come off the books that until their free agency is finished, we might not have like their actual tax. Sure. I don't think they're there yet, but I think they will be. God, the NL East is going to be a bloodbeth. The Mets, the Phillies, the Braves.
Starting point is 00:20:50 That's insane. The nationals are supposed to be on the up and up. They're supposed to be a team this free agency. Are they going to retort? The Marlins, I mean... What about the Marlins? That's unfair. What are you got on the Marlins?
Starting point is 00:21:06 It's our Basel right now. Miami is not worried about this. What is our Basel? I don't know a lot of people that are there, though. I think we got to go. I don't want to go. I think that's how they get you. You've got to be so cool to go to Art Basel.
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Starting point is 00:22:43 Sure Treve I thought we were in Juan Soto I told you this before the show People who know our stuff Maybe this is the first time you're joining in We have one of our producers Dan Rourke who I mean there's a lot of Yankee fans In our company
Starting point is 00:23:00 But Dan Rourke might be the biggest Yankee fan He literally lives and dies Loves me Not as much as the Yankees but very much After the show we did with Chris Rose He didn't even say goodbye No He couldn't get off fast enough. He's distraught. And I got to imagine this is, and you tell me, obviously, you're living in Jake. In my mind, this has got to have Yankee fans questioning a lot. Not that you guys weren't already. I feel like there's been a few instances over the last shoot, five, six years where, look, Bryce Harper didn't come there. Trey Turner, you're going to pass on this guy and see you're going to pass. Like, there's a lot of guys that you passed over, maybe
Starting point is 00:23:45 strategically. Yeah. But this was not strategic. This was somebody came out and snatched them from your claws. And I got to imagine, even though when Steve Cohen bought the team, I think a lot of Yankee fans knew this day was going to come eventually, it came a lot quicker and it hit a lot closer to home because you had Juan Soto on your team. This wasn't a free agent that never played for the Yankees.
Starting point is 00:24:12 So on your team, took your team to the World Series. for the first time in 15 years. And then he decided, you know what? Even though the deals are similar, I'm going to go somewhere else. It has to just feel like we're not, we're not those guys. So, I mean, yes to a degree.
Starting point is 00:24:36 Like, you know, some of the early 2000 stuff was insane. Like if we were doing talking baseball back then, the Yankee salary compared to other teams, it's why there's more stuff in the CBA now. It's why there's more rules around baseball, like, because the Yankees and George Steinbrenner, like, got out of control. Like, it's why they became the hated Yankees, which is ironic because they did a lot more winning before they started doing that.
Starting point is 00:25:03 For me, it goes back to where I started a little bit. They re-signed Judge, you had to. That one, for me, if you, he just broke Ruth's home run record, like he's larger than life, had to happen. Soto, there was always kind of the Mets question mark, but we didn't really think it was real. Like, you know, we did a talk in Yanks episode where it's like, ooh, if they don't get Soto, what's it look like?
Starting point is 00:25:25 And it's like, trade for Cody Bellinger, Luis Robert and Pinstripes. Like, that's fun. And now it's all real. And it's not fun because it's not Juan Soto, man. Sure, the Yankees were going to have some defensive questions. What do you do with Soto, Judge, and Stanton? and, you know, what else do you add after Soto and all of that talk? Dude, you had Juan Soto.
Starting point is 00:25:49 Like, go through the Yankees last year. It was Soto and Judge. Labor had two months. Austin Wells had threes. Like, dude, Verdugo was a bus. Like, Volpe didn't have the breakout. Their first base position was historically bad. No Yankee first baseman has homered since July 31st.
Starting point is 00:26:10 You're going to hear that. Yeah, dude. It was Soto and Judge. I know it was. I watched it. The year before, they did not make the expanded postseason. I know. They traded a bunch of guys for Juan Soto.
Starting point is 00:26:27 Michael King is a dog. He saw it in the postseason. He struck out like 14 cats one night. That was part of the package. They traded another part of the package for Dylan Seas. the Yankees didn't take a meeting with Bryce Harper because they said it seemed too on the nose and too many fans wanted it.
Starting point is 00:26:49 They said that. Trev, I can dig up some real quotes for you. And Trev, I think they've had money plans. I think Soto was one of them because, like you said, they went to the 750 and my first instinct was, wait, if Soto's willing to take that deal, why didn't the Yankees give it to it? And it turns out that was their line.
Starting point is 00:27:10 So I don't believe that. I don't. I think if you're willing to go that, you're willing to do anything. This is what I think, and I don't know if I'm right on this, but in my mind, I've been around the organizations, right? Right. The Yankees have had the same people in place for a long time. I played for an organization that did the same thing. People were there, are still there.
Starting point is 00:27:39 Okay? So their thought process hasn't changed much. Like it's still the same people around. Maybe some of their, some of the story that they were selling to Juan Soto was dated. Steve Cohen comes in. He's new. He brings in new people,
Starting point is 00:28:01 young people, fresh ideas. The story that I'm sure he sold to Juan Soto was fresh and new. sounded like what a 26-year-old kid wanted to hear, dude. Yeah? And the Yankees are like, to me, if you put those two up against each other, one's going to sound like the old dude who you're like, shut up, old dude. And the other one's going to sound like, oh yeah, that's more my language.
Starting point is 00:28:30 I don't know how close I am with that, but in my mind, again, being around, I've spent a lot of time around the Yankees organization. I played at that stadium. I've seen what goes on. People have been working there for a long time. Again, and I know that for my own experiences in Minnesota. People are working there for a long time. It gets old. It doesn't stay up to date.
Starting point is 00:28:54 And I think there's that aspect to it. Because you took meetings, the deals were similar. I think Juan saw himself in the future with the Mets and it favored him that way. Next thing I want to talk about quickly. you've been to like someone's house and all of a sudden they open up the cupboard and you see all the food they got all the good snacks. Yeah. You want those snacks. Big time.
Starting point is 00:29:20 You want those snacks. Red Sox, $700 million for 15 years. They offered Juan Soto. That's been reported. Yankees, $760 million for 16 years. Fan base. The fan bases of those two teams. It's all the cupboard.
Starting point is 00:29:36 cupboard's open. They know the money's there. These two teams better go out there and spend that money now or else they're going to have some fan bases that are absolutely pissed off, right? Like, if you're a Yankee fan, they need to go
Starting point is 00:29:54 and allocate $50 million somewhere else. If not more. And if they don't, what are we doing? Right, but that's it gets it gets tricky dude because okay what what's that 50 million going to get me is that going to get me Christian Walker and alec Bregman on the corners okay um what's that look what's do you think that changes the yankees that's 50 mil i don't know what christian walk is going to look like in new york i honestly don't know what the yankees next move is i don't think they're a guarantee to sign anybody let me
Starting point is 00:30:36 So think about that I don't think they're guaranteed to sign anybody Like guaranteed This guy's gonna go to New York Right There's a lot of other teams that are out there Willing to spend money this all season And it's big players
Starting point is 00:30:49 This go around in free agency A lot of big players involved More so than other years I believe The Dodgers are out there They just sign Blake Trina Michael Conforto Like they're not stopping
Starting point is 00:31:00 No I don't know man I'm sad and panicked I think they're going to do something. I don't know how dramatic it is. Jimmy is kind of on the front that they'll go get pitching. Like they'll go for a Max Fried. And then you trade a Luis Heel or Nestor and you get some hitting that way along with plugging a hole.
Starting point is 00:31:23 Like the Yankees still have a path to have an interesting team. It's just really tough. You are a year removed from missing the playoffs. you bring in a guy who Trev you know I'm not doing this like I'll tell my social team not to clip it Juan Soto's the best at bats I've ever seen like Yankees I've gotten to watch a lot of good players
Starting point is 00:31:48 Soto the way he controls his own and if he wants to follow you off he'll do that if he wants to pull a ball he'll do that if he wants to trick you get it's everything like he was born he's a baseball prodigy So, hey, like I'm a little sad. I don't get to see that for 15 years. He was going to Monument Park.
Starting point is 00:32:09 You know, I watch all the games. I'm not going to watch Juan Soto, and the Mets fans are. And that's impactful. They're going to get to watch one of the all-time greats that I don't know what the Yankees are going to do. It's scary hours because they rolled out a lineup with Willie Calhoun, bat, and third for a chunk of the year. Jake Bowers. Dude, they couldn't hit.
Starting point is 00:32:31 They couldn't hit coach. So I don't know. I'm extremely nervous to see where they pivot. And yeah, it's a great point, Trev. If you're a Red Sox fan, okay. So Corbyn Burns, he's really good. Santander get him from a division rival. I don't know where the Yanks are going to land.
Starting point is 00:32:54 I think they're going to land at like a two-year plan. and go from there. But Aaron Judge ain't getting younger. Garrett Cole ain't getting younger. Those guys are low to mid-30s. Body starts feeling a little different that, dude, Juan Soto was part of a whole, the Yanks are going to be good again for a decade,
Starting point is 00:33:17 and that is gone. Gone. I just, yeah, it's, it's, it's, it's not shocking that he went to the Mets. It's not. it is shocking to me that these contracts were pretty dang close. Well, I guess I've talked myself out of that and you tell me if this is good Jake logic or horrible Jake logic.
Starting point is 00:33:43 Like everyone has their walkaway point, right? And then everyone has like their real walkaway point that even if the Yankees, they were like, hey, we're walking away at 650. And then they got up to 750 and that was their actual walkaway. then that's their actual walkaway. You know, like it's, it's not like we would have heard the Mets went to a billion. The Yankees stayed at 700. Like they were going to go kind of tit for tat until they actually tap.
Starting point is 00:34:11 So I don't know. That's how I've used my logic on it. How do you figure out what your line is? That's what I want to know. Because there's no way at the beginning of this free agent period. They thought they were going to get to $765, right? there's there's some george castanza who runs the numbers for the yankees and they say if it hits 754 that's where things start getting iffy
Starting point is 00:34:38 i don't know man right i think you just put another patch on your sleeve and get won soda i don't know the uh trev i was trying to get the jimmy was in australia from the road zooming in. Joe's McFly is secretly as broken of a human as you'll see right now. I was trying to get some of the sadness out of them and they were doing more of the, oh, you know, like let's, okay, trade for Bellinger. Like they're, you know, trying to move on what's next. Is Belly have a no trade clause? This is bad, dude.
Starting point is 00:35:16 He has to have a partial one at least, right? Like, to take their contracts. Tell you that right now. Trev, when you were describing the Yankees being like a little older, a little older, a little stale why would I want to be there it reminded me of the St. Louis Cardinals a little bit which made me sick to my stomach
Starting point is 00:35:40 I just we got a little bit of an update we want to keep this going as we do it Dalton's on the sheet right now he said 230 million in salary during the first five years plus there's a $75 million signing bonus $305 million
Starting point is 00:36:00 dollars and $61 million AAV over the first five years. So I'm very curious to see how this is it, is it very front loaded? Tapering off towards the back. Now there's a $75 million signing bonus that we didn't really know about. A lot of details are going to come out in the next, you know, few days as we get all this situated and the contract becomes available to the public.
Starting point is 00:36:27 But man, know who just had a great free agency? Everybody? Every hitter. Everybody, yeah. I don't know. The numbers are high this year. Trev. There was, when we were doing offseason episodes, it felt like everywhere I went to talk,
Starting point is 00:36:47 a lot of people were nervous about a Pete Alonzo. Like, I don't know. Something about a big burly, righty power hitter. His numbers aren't necessarily going up, but they're in a good place. And it was like, do you pay Pete? Do you not pay Pete? You pay Pete. I'm not saying the Yankees are going.
Starting point is 00:37:05 but that man can hit a lot of homers that's oh my gosh is this going to be like man this dude stole my girl I'm going to steal his slightly like less attractive girl to get back Jimmy and Joe's gave a
Starting point is 00:37:27 1,000% you cannot sign Pete Alonzo to the Yankees that says it's a little strange That's as dirty as it gets. That's as dirty as it gets. That's your cousin's date and a girl. And then...
Starting point is 00:37:47 I don't know. I think it might be the play. Judge Stan Pete and... I don't know, man. Dude, this is what the Yankees front office is actually now having to mull over. That's an interesting thought process. What's cash doing right now?
Starting point is 00:38:08 Dude. You know, people are saying pitching or they're going to counter They might not They might roll young guys out there You have to convince people To come to your team And free agents
Starting point is 00:38:20 It's not as easy as the Yankees snapping their fingers And saying, let's go Max Fried had a great meeting Cool Yeah, yeah Max Fried also Might want to just play in California
Starting point is 00:38:29 Right You make a pitch for the Angels, bro I don't know Money talks, right? I just offered my fandom to the Mets? We got this big dinner plan. All the L.A. guys are getting together.
Starting point is 00:38:45 It's going to be a lot of fun. Well, I'll learn some things then. Can't wait. You're not from here, so you can't come, but maybe in a couple years. Wow. You got anything else, Treve? Otherwise, I think it's
Starting point is 00:39:00 wrap it up. According to someone on Twitter, this is Bobby Gals. We asked him to get the tax insight here. The Mets will pay a 60% luxury tax on it. So it's hit to the team is $80 million per year unless they drop
Starting point is 00:39:18 under the threshold. What's 80 times 15? Quick math is 1.2? 1.02? Yeah. I got a calculator right here. 1.2.
Starting point is 00:39:37 Billion. I think 80. Yeah. Yeah. 1.2. Oh, way, shit. All that's to scrub your Google history, man.
Starting point is 00:39:52 This is great. I'm going to go scrub something. Treve, we must... Hey, Steve, I'm like your guy. Don't... I'm just... I think I'm thinking along with you. It's okay.
Starting point is 00:40:06 I like you. Steve, we love you, dude. For a certain price, I really love you, dude. Congrats to the New York Mets. Maybe a... A moment in... history for them definitely.
Starting point is 00:40:21 And maybe for the Yankees too. Oh, God. Man, the other name I was thinking of when we were talking about Alonzo or whoever else has left, Zander Bogart's man. How quickly did he go from Dansby Swanson to Trey Turner? Someone's going to get that jump. It might be Breggie and it might be your team. Hey, you guys are the absolute best.
Starting point is 00:40:48 Thank you so much. Everyone tuning in live on a Sunday night. Trevor Plouf, Rob Serocco. Subscribe all the good stuff. And we'll see what happens next. Winter meetings, baby. Thanks, everyone.

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