Talkin' Baseball (MLB Podcast) - Kyle Tucker TRADED To The Cubs!

Episode Date: December 14, 2024

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Hello and welcome to talking baseball. Kyle Tucker, welcome to Shytown. Devin Williams is a Yankee. We might clean up some more. The stove's too hot, Trev. The stock ball. Devin Williams. Keeper Armstrong.

Oh, hunting. Safe at first. Fast. Hello, and welcome to an impromptu episode of Talking Baseball. There was so much happening. Myself, Jake's story early, Trevor Plu. Rob Sharaka, we said, hey, let's do it. We're here.

Let's go. The Cubs get a stud player. The Yanks get a stud player. A lot of bodies moving. The ripple effrex from winter meeting continue on. Trevor Pluth, I know I was at the gym this morning, and now I feel like we're holding you back from going to the gym, so I guess just give us your two minutes and you're out or what.

Yeah, just real quick. No, I was also putting up the finishing touches on my Christmas lights. Nice. I feel like I should have been done before this week, but look, there's a lot of stuff to do. But yes, I will be going to the gym after this show. Don't worry, everybody. I will not let myself go. Jake, we had to go live for this one.

This is a trade that we've been kind of looking at or singling out for quite some time. With Kyle Tucker's on the move, he's one of the best players in baseball. We got to go to it. And it was, from all accounts, going to be either to your yanks. And then it got rumored that the Cubs were heavily involved in this. And, man, we have asked the Cubs to do something like that. What's that meme where it's just like poking with a stick? And I think it says do something.

Yeah, you like that meme. And this is kind of it. And they did something. So I'm very excited about it. A lot of moving parts. Houston is an edigma to me. They don't, they just cut off an arm and grow another one. They're like an octopus.

Changing their name, by the way. So we're going to reference Minutemade Park a lot. Right. In this episode, it's actually Diken Park after January 1st. I almost took, I saw a Diken truck the other day. I almost took a picture and then I was like, nobody's going to get this. Needed it. Where do you want to start with this, though?

Because, I mean, I guess it really is, it's the Cubs show, right? It's always been the Cubs show. Treve, I want to start with getting some seats, whether you want to see. Kyle Tucker in the bleachers of Wrigley. We need to do that. I think we agreed to that. You need to go to Seat Geek. There's one.

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code talking 10 to your account. So if you're going to something now or later, you have it in there, and you can go see something. Talking 10, Seekkeek. Trev, the trade. Kyle Tucker from the Houston Astros to the Chicago Cubs for Isok Paredes. He's been doing a little tour from Tampa to the Cubbies,

now Houston, Detroit briefly at the start of his career, if I remember. Hayden West Neske, former Yankees farm hand, has thrown some good innings for the Cubs. And Cam Smith, a prospect in the Cubs organization. So it sounded like you wanted to start on the Shytown part of things. Yes. So I don't know what this exactly means for their outfield.

Obviously, he's going to come in. He's going to play left or right field, I'm assuming for them. BCA in center field. Does this signal bellies definitely out of there? I don't think you have all of those guys playing, plus Suzuki as well. Like there's more moves to be made. I think this is why I love trades, Jake, almost more than a free agent signing, because bringing a couple players over, get rid of getting rid of guys.

Like there's just so many moving parts that this isn't just one move and done for the Cubs, I don't believe. So yeah, he comes in. You know, he's going to add to this offense that, you know, I think needs somebody like a Kyle Tucker right in the heart of the line. The guy is a left-handed hitter, but he's platoon, you know, proof. I think he's got like an 845 OPS career against lefties, like an 860-something career OPS against right-handed bats. But he is just an absolute sicko on the diamond, man. He's one of the best players in all of baseball.

they like defense as Chicago Cubs do. Kyle Tucker offers defense. They like guys that can bang the ball around the park. Kyle Tucker can do that. He can steal bases. This is a huge win for them. And I got to imagine in their minds, they're hoping that they can say,

hey, you're going to love it here. Chicago's great. Our fan base is awesome. The city is amazing. Don't you want to stay here for the rest of your career? I don't know if that's going to happen, but I know that's going to be, you know, something that they're trying to do. But this is, to me, this is, I talked about this earlier today and baseball today.

Cubs, Yankees, somebody had to make this move. They needed them for different reasons. But I think this is a home run for like a better turn for the Chicago Cubs. That's really good, Treve. That's really good. Yeah, I love this for the Cubs. I think Kyle Tucker is the best player of the Cubs. Cubs have had since.

I mean... Ooh, that's a good one. Right? Like, I was going through the year by year. You know, we, we picture this guy differently now. Javi Baez, I think, was back-to-back... Can you say Rizzo? Javierz was back-to-back six war seasons in 1819.

But then you're looking at Rizzo or Bryant, really. Like, Bryant won an MVP. So that, I don't know. I think that's just a little bit of scope. Like Kyle Tucker and his best... year. What he was on track for last year was nuts. And I think it's something that needs to be said with Kyle Tucker is like, he might have a little bit more. He was 27 last year. So maybe he was taking another step up that if you get the Kyle Tucker that showed face last year, Chicago,

holy smokes. What would you have trapped? I'm just starting to think about their outfields. I forgot Happer there. Yes. Happer in left, PCA or belly in center field. Tucker in right, say a Suzuki D.H. And like there's a lot of meat on that bone coach. Michael Bush. It's a lot to go around. Michael Bush at first currently that, yeah, they expect the Cubs to make another trade. And Cody Bellinger has been rumored.

They could not. I mean, right now they have a hole at third base. Or not. I mean, Matt Shaw is supposed to be one of the prospects they want to play. So I'm interested to see what the Cubby's next move is. because earlier it was rumored that it was Suzuki and Paredes for Kyle Tucker, which was, that was kind of an interesting one. No, Kyle Tucker, I mean, right now they have Hap leading off.

Kyle Tucker, Seah Suzuki, Bellinger, Dansby Swanson, Bush Horner. So that's lefty, right, switch, lefty, righty, lefty. So like the Cubs have something. Their lineup took a step up today. And defense did not get hurt at all. that it's going to be very interesting to track their next moves. What can they do is Cody Bellinger out, PCA in? Do they like the outfield depth?

I mean, Cody can play first too, but that's an upsell in the trade market. So Chicago fan should be stoked. You got an absolute stunt in Kyle Tucker that he's going to ask for a bag after the season, and we've been wondering when the Cubs are going to go out and really pay a guy. I mean, I know Dansby got a nice contract. Like, we know Belly got a solid contract, but Kyle Tucker is going to be one of those like $250, $300.

Who knows where free agency lands in a year that, I don't know. I'll be interested to see if the Cubsies roll that out, but I also don't expect them to. I was trying to look at Park Factor and like what that means for him, like how the numbers are going to jump. Houston last year, as far as Park Factor was dead smack in the middle, 15th for Minutemade,

aka Dikin. And Chicago was 24th in Park Factor, mostly because, you know, sometimes that wind is just blown in makes that thing an absolute dungeon. But it always shocks me and I look at Park Factor

because, you know, it took a big hit last year for some reason. What's that? Milwaukee. Milwaukee was one of the worst places in the big leagues to hit last year. 27th overall in Park Factor. Yeah, I think going year by year can be tricky for Park Factor because I think you can have outliers.

I think so and just, you know, how it goes year in, year out. There's better people to speak about Park Factor than me. No, this is 2020-2 through 2024 is what I'm looking at right now. I don't, maybe it's that pitching in Milwaukee. I know that's not how it works, but you always liked it. there. I'm not sure how it works to be honest. Nobody does.

Well, something I can talk about more confidently with Park Factor is your boy Esauk Paredes, who's going over to Houston. And if you are someone... If you're someone who uses baseball savant, it is one of the more fun pages to look at. The Bigfella likes to turn on the ball. Listed at 511-213 might throw the challenge flag both ways. He's, uh, he's, uh, he's on the story. What does he list to that?

Give it to me again. He's listed 511 213. The height doesn't seem too far off. I think we're talking 510, 225. How else can you go 2.30? It's spending on the day. He's thick. Um, and his baseball savant for a lot of different reasons.

There's some blue. There's some red. Um, my man pulls the ball. Uh, Specifically, down the line, specifically in the new Dykin Stadium, where the Crawford boxes are, that Isok Perrette's, he kind of broke out with the raise in his 2023, 31 Homer season, a 352 on base and 840 OPS. So he has some good, like, swing and miss stuff.

He has a good eye. It's just he has one objective when he is at the plate. it is to pull the ball and try to hit a home run. And if there's a ballpark that's conducive for that, you're going to see some benefits. Tampa Bay, sneaky, has the shortest left field down the line in Major League Baseball. Some people forget that.

Right down the line. Right down the line. It's a little bit of a caveat. Longo's cornered. Have they called it that yet? Longo's Leap. The sin they haven't. Esoc Peretas.

He'll be Houston's starting third baseman. Get him in your fantasy league because I think his number should go back to 2023. But Trevor, the Houston lineup, man. I mean, this is, like we were easing out of the Houston dynasty, but you saw El Tuve, you saw Yor Don, you saw Bregman, you saw Tucker. It's getting a little different, man. It is. You remove Alex Breggman and Kyle Tucker from any lineup. It's going to be hard to replace them. I think Paredes will, you know, be a fine addition to it, but we're talking about two guys that really, you know, had incredible tenures there and were absolute stalwarts in the lineup. So that's going to be, I mean, I'm looking at it right now. The outfield is

interesting to me. I feel like it's been interesting for quite some time. Why wasn't Cody Bellinger in this trade? Like, they need outfield. It's kind of a good point. I think there's some things he said about this stuff way back in the day. That's right. Yeah, Carlos Gray and him. I think Carlos Gray told him that shut the F up, pretty sure. again, one of the all-time legendary interviews. Like all-time legendary interviews, Carlos Correa,

Ken Rosenthal, outside of the spring training doors. That was just something else. You know what, though, Jake? We've done this a few times with the Astros where players move on. They go somewhere else, and then they find a Framber.

They find a Ronel Blanco. You know, Jeremy Pena, I know he didn't have it last year. First year up becomes a monster. again, I think that they're so confident in what they're able to do development-wise. I mean, they're still the, they're the big bad wolf until they're not, dude. Like we keep thinking they're not going to be last year, first month of the season. Everyone's, I guess, here it is.

And then what happened? And then what happened? I don't know, man. And then what happened? You know what I'm saying, though? Well, they didn't make it to the ALCS again, but they won the division. they did so like it's

I mean you can't just like eight consecutive is crazy dude I don't know I'm looking at the lineup right now am I liking it not really to be honest with you

but the offseason isn't over and maybe by June I'll be like oh yeah shit this is a pretty good lineup yeah I mean it's it's obviously still there Altuve is Altuve Yordan is Yordon

and Paredes I just said was going to return to 30 homers. So that plus yiner, like, yes, there's a lineup. Pena's going to play defense and slap it around a little bit. You have the outfield is listed as Chas McCormick, Jake Myers, and Taylor Tremel right now. I mean, our guy, Mauricio Dubon is there, sure, but like, I guess you can spin that two ways, right? Like you said, the offseason, offseason's really just hitting the gas button right now,

that Houston is clearly going to be in the market for outfielders. and a first basement. So, okay, Bregman's off the books. Tucker, what was he going to make? 18, 20 million? Something like that. 16 million dollars this year.

And Paredes' first year arbitration, so he's going to make three or four million dollars. Like, so, okay, it opens up some wiggle room. We've heard reports that they're trying to kind of either stay where they're at, um, salary-wise or, you know, maybe even cut back. a little bit, so they might have to get creative,

but I expect them to be active, whether it is another trade, whether they go out and maybe they're in the hunt for Pete Alonso. There's still guys to be had at there. So yes, right now we're looking at this Houston lineup, and we're like, okay, you know, like it doesn't scream Houston Dynasty necessarily anymore, but it's early still.

There's more moves coming with this. Yeah, and I think, you know, looking at the free agent pool, they have options, especially with that short left field, too. You know, Anthony Santander, we haven't been able to pick his home. Teoscar Hernandez. I know we've assumed L.A., but, like, that's a perfect guy to throw out in that left field. ProFar had a monster year last year.

Nobody knows what to do with it. Jack Peterson. So the Houston, for what they need, there's plays in. free agency still and obviously the trade market that they can tap into their pitching or whatever else they want to do. And at first base, I mean, Christian Walker, Polar Pete. I think Alonzo, I think I said this the other day. I think MinutMade was one of his top Homer Parks.

Like if he played there, yeah, he can pull it and he can go opo down the line that that wouldn't be a bad fit that, hey, if those could be our next two Houston update. It could be Santon, Darren Pete, and they just added 80 home runs. We've seen Wesnowski be really good at times for the Cubs. Kind of in between a reliever role. He started some games as well. I believe through June, he had a 3-6 for the Cubs, and then he had a couple really rough starts

that kind of ballooned his overall numbers. But Jake, how did Houston become the Houston Astros? Trick question. Tanking, getting draft picks, right? Yes, yes. And they hit on all of them. Yes. In particular, the guys that they're most likely going to lose with lost Tucker already,

Bregman, they were the second and fifth overall picks in whatever draft class they were. Cam Smith, the guy they got from the Cubs, first rounder last year for the Cubs. Like, hey, there's a lottery now. Obviously, Houston isn't tanking anymore, but now they're still acquiring these picks. This guy raked last year, I think, through three levels in the minor leagues. who's to say we don't see fucking Cam Smith breaking in Houston

before the end of the year. End of the year. I don't know. We don't know. We don't know. That's the thing with prospects. We may never see him or he may be playing in the World Series.

His numbers last year were freaking pretty dang good, man. I'm glad you mentioned Wesneski because I don't want it to get mixed because when we talked about the Cubs last, they have pitching depth and he was part of that. So young talented picture, we've seen a lot of guys in Houston tap into more on the pitching front that, hey, and maybe, I guess this also signaled

Bregman's done in Houston, right? That's, I know we're going to get there. I think so. You know, I think they, the reports are they offered them $156 million. and he's looking more towards the 200 mark. That's where he wants to be. And I think with some of these contracts have been thrown out there this offseason, I think he might get pretty close to it. And this, yeah, and this is,

I said they shouldn't do it. I thought they should keep Bregman. But that's really just not how they operate. The only one that they've kept around long term has been Jose Al-Tube. And I guess we'll Yord on too, signed him. Yes. This is the way they operate, man.

And we question it almost every single time. Like, oh, what's without George Springer in that outfield, you know, without Garrett Cole in that rotation, they really haven't missed a beat without those guys. And maybe one day it'll come back to Biden, but I still believe in this organization and what they're able to do. Man, I wonder, Gregman, is that going to be New York or Boston? Cubs fans, this isn't anything,

but it was funny seeing Matt Shaw, the kid at third base for them. I'd add Tucker and Bregman. There's a lot of teams that had been talking about that. Man, we've been tough on the Cubs, especially recently. They put the chips a little all in here that I don't want to say they're good to go. Like you said, with that outfield depth, it feels like there's one more move coming, and we'll see what that looks like for them, and then they might be set. Houston, it feels like they're about to go to work.

Yes, yes, Coach. I want to read Camp Smith's numbers off. I knew they were good. I had them in the back of my mind. And it is a small sample size. It's only 32 games that he played last year. It's a 14th overall pick. 313, 396-609 through three levels.

I'm just saying, people. You're a Cam Smith guy. Yeah, I couldn't pick him out of a lineup. But you might be in Houston's lineup for the end of the year. Cameron Vaughn Smith, Florida State guy, Treff. Oh, just like Buster Pose. I never know if that's a smart school or a dumb party school. I don't know.

I think it's a mix. Okay. I have a sister-in-law, Florida State, and she's like doing like brain surgeon type stuff. So I think good. But I think I think a nickname for Tallahassee that I've heard is Tala Nasty. And you live in. It's our kind of place.

You live in Calabassey. So yeah, I think Florida State's home. I should have went there. I think that's our sweet spot. Cam Smith, this guy rakes. Why not? Wow, five games at double A last year. Sure.

Maybe he is playing for the at. Who knows, man? I'm telling you, dude. What position does he play? I guess I should know that. He's listed as a third baseman. Oh, first baseman of the future for the Astros. We just found it.

We just found it. Yeah. Yeah, Houston has earned our respect in a lot of ways and the Cubs have been on the other side of that currently feels like the guy in this deal is going to Chicago, but they better win, man. Dude, the pressure on the Cubs, the first half of next season. Love it. They need some freaking pressure out there.

My gosh. Hey, not a Boris guy. His agent is Casey Close, who I'm familiar with. And Paul Goldschmidt got traded and signed an extension. Huh. Who his agent was Casey Close. Right. So this is not something that never happens.

This isn't a Boris client where it's like for sure not going to happen. Maybe that was one of the reasons. Hmm. Got off from a freaking bag, though, after what Soto just got, huh? I think it starts with a three. If Kyle... I think I was going to say four. Well, that's what I'm saying.

If Kyle Tucker signs an extension today, it's at least a three. Yeah. Like an eight year three? I mean years after a certain point. Like the years end up turning into the funny business. Like it's whatever. What does it take to get to three for an eight year? 37?

You know that's not my. I shouldn't have even asked you that. That's still I have a calculator right here. Man, that's funny. You mentioned Paul Goldschmidt. That's been another guy that seemed like a fit in Houston that. 37 and a half. Look at you, dude.

That's right on that. Stanford. Go Cardinal. You and Andrew Luck just putting together the football program. Where is he? He's the GM of the Stanford, like, football team now. Okay. Yeah.

That's, I don't know. Let's pivot a little bit because there was another breaking trade today. Devin Williams to the New York Yankees. I wonder who broke it. And it's all brought to you by Orgain. Cheat days aside what I put in my body matters to me. I want to fuel it with the best stuff out there. Our next sponsor, Orgain, makes it so easy to do that.

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he's now putting on the pinstripes. It's traded for Nestor Cortez Jr. Our sweet prince with one year on his contract. So it's one year, one year, starter for reliever. And then the Yankees added Caleb Durbin into the trade, who's been a fast-rising prospect. he was MVP of the Arizona

Fall League, which some scouts and people take that pretty seriously. He's got some really good walk to strikeout numbers that you'd like. And most importantly, Coach Trev, plays a lot of positions well and listed five six. Yep. You're welcome. Six. I thought there was an eight there.

The reports are he's not five, six, that that he's grown a little bit, but listed five six. How old is he? Is he? He's going to keep growing. He's just growing, man. These things happen.

Okay? I don't think they do. These things have. I'm hoping they happen. Where are we start? I guess it's got to start with the Yankees side of the deal. I guess. I mean,

I love it. Look, anytime you can shorten the game, especially in today's baseball world, I think that it is advantageous to you. So at the back end, the bullpen, one of the better one and two punches, in the game between Weaver and Williams. I said to Chris Rose earlier,

I'm assuming Williams takes the ball in the ninth for them, but who cares? Yes. It could just be a lane thing. That's how teams are thinking. He gets the better lane. I don't know. Who cares?

So it's, in that regard, I really like it. I don't love the Yankees giving away. They're starting pitching depth. I understand there's still more. They still have starting pitching depth. but man, we've just seen it year and a year out where you just, it's going to be tested. I think Nestor is a great depth option. But they're in win now mode, and I think they're willing to take that chance.

I think the money is an even swap for those. The Brewers did something with William's contract. He had a $10.5 million option. They declined, I believe. And now he's going to be making just over eight. And Nester is slated to make eight. So the money isn't any different there. but for the Yankees, yeah, I mean, this guy's absolutely dominant.

If you haven't seen Devin Williams pitch, you're kind of living under a rock if you're a baseball fan. Elite swing and miss stuff. The strikeout rate is incredible. He missed, you know, quite a bit of the season last year, came back in the second half. I believe he had his best strikeout per nine in his career, which is, you know, it's high. He's up there in the high 13s, low 14s for career strikeouts per nine. And so for the Yankees, I mean, I think that's what it was. You know, we had some issues during the season with the back end of their bullpen. What do you do with Clay Holmes? Weaver ends up finding himself being the guy. And now you have another one that's just tried and true.

And like I said, shorten the game is so important in today's in today's world. He's Devin Williams, man. Like he has an argument for the best closer in the game. He had a one, two, five. Team USA's. You like that? You got the USA hat on right now. I mean, don't play your games.

I know, you know, I know where you stand. You built this. I love my Latino brothers too, okay, I do. The Plu family built this damn country, pool by pool. Cleaned it. 1-25 ERA last year, 183 career. I mean, some of the ways you can cut up his numbers have him as the best reliever since he got called up in 2019 or top three. maybe with that guy he used to share the bullpen with.

But set it and forget it, right? Like you make him the closer. It's one year. For the Yankees, this is a high-end play. Like, the Yankees are 99% going to make the postseason, although we saw them not in 2023, and they still have a thin lineup. But Garrett Cole, Max Fried, Carlos Rodon, Luis Heel, Clark Schmidt,

Marcus Stroman is still there. like the Yankees have starting pitching and they cashed in one of those chips and that's what I talked about like when you're trading which is where the Yankees are going to do most of their work the rest of the way they might do one of the big free agents but you have to find timelines and money that makes sense and so Devin Williams you know if the Yankees make the postseason they would hope that he pitches in five out of six games in a series if Nestor's on the postseason roster he might pitch one. So for the Yankees, this was a chance for them to bolster their postseason chances.

And for Milwaukee, they get a starting pitcher that you're probably, you know, Nestor ended up giving the Yankees 174 innings last year, a 377 ERA. It was kind of an odd year. There were ups and downs. But for Milwaukee, they ran out of starting pitching that they get to put this guy out there with much better defense, by the way, in Milwaukee than Yankee Stadium. You just talked about Milwaukee's park factor, so Nestor will be helped there. So not only would that on paper be a somewhat neutral swap, but they get Caleb Durbin, man,

who sometimes it's tough to read through the Yankees BS of them hyping a prospect or whatever it is, but this guy reeks of Milwaukee. He does. He's had more walks than strikeouts in his minor league career. He steals bags. He's supposed to play high level at, like, basically outfield and infield, wherever you can put him, that a lot of Yankees people thought they were ready to spot,

put him in the second base spot for Glaber and see what they have, which, again, the Yankees don't do a lot of that with kids. And now Milwaukee, they get to make that bet that if Caleb Durbin turns into anything, they're going to win this trade on paper. And it's a very Milwaukee trade, and it's a very Milwaukee trade, and it's a very Yankees trade. Agreed. This is, I think Milwaukee, we always talk about

what do teams think that they do well. What do they really truly believe? And I think Milwaukee believes, I wouldn't go as far saying their overall player development, but definitely their pitching development. I think they believe in that. I believe they believe they can identify markers on pitchers, get them into their organization,

and make stars out of them. So if they believe that, then yes, we've seen Hayter be expendable. We've seen now Devin Williams be expendable. And they think that they can kind of just figure that out. You mentioned, you know, Nestor coming over,

giving them rotational help. They needed that last year for sure. Now they got that. It's a little bit of depth there. And then you're right, a guy like Caleb Durden who, you know, they value, I believe they were, did they win the team gold glove? I think they did. The Brewers? Yeah. I'm not sure. Rob Zon. I think they did. I think they did last year. They bring a guy over that is supposed to play great defense, can move all over

the field. They value flexibility, roster flexibility. I mean, yeah, this is, I'm looking at him right now. I just got a picture of Caleb Durd. He's definitely a five, six. And I only have a torso picture. Right. I don't even see a full, I, the comparison, I'm looking at him. He looks like a short king. I love it for him. I'm not bagging on the guy. Why would you be bagging on him for that?

This is great. You act like it's a bad thing. I love short kings. Okay. You're still trying to grow. Just embrace it. I might have been saying that a little facetiously. Okay.

Actually, you know what? No, if I grow up, if I wake up and I'm 5'9 tomorrow, watch out. Everyone's having sex Um The That's another Trev outside of the short stuff The bullpen stuff

I mean dude they had Trevor McGill Close 21 games for them last year Because Devin Williams missed time So this is a A flexible asset for them That they've turned into A starting pitcher who Nestor like Go look at his best seasons

Uh if they can tap into something with him, my goodness, their rotation looks great right now. Some players just make sense for a team. Now that I'm just like a magic Nestor Cortez on the Brewers, they are going to make him do so much silly shit, like more than he already does on the mound. I can't wait for it.

On and off the field, like the Nestor beer opportunities are incredible. Like, Nestor is the every man without being the every. He's an MLB all-star pitcher that somehow feels like the every man that Milwaukee's going to love him. And Trev, like, I'm, Peralta, Woodruff, Savali, Tobias Myers, Nestor. I know there's a little bit of a Milwaukee lens on there, but that's also, if you get the best of those guys, that's a they've all had success at the big level. Yes. And meanwhile, Milwaukee in their bullpen,

Brian Hudson had a 173 in 62 winnings last year. Pye Amps was great. Canig, McGill. and it was great, yep. Interested? Please. No, I mean, they lost Adomis and they've kind of had to figure out their infield over the last couple years. They get terrain up there. He wins

the freaking platinum glove. They get Ortiz in there. Now you add Durbin. Who knows the combination of where they're going to play, but guys that can catch the freaking ball. I think that obviously is there

one of their team MOs and, you know, they don't have, they don't, they can't go out and, or I mean, they can, they just, it's not their team process to go out there and enter free agency and go get an infield. Like they're, they get creative with the ways that they acquire their players. And here we go, man. Jackson Trio was 2020 last year as a 20 year old. Yelly, remember he missed the back half of the season, but he was playing. He just survived a fire in Malibu. Shout out all my Malibu people. I think everyone's okay, but there was a massive fire out there.

Jeez. You didn't know that. Franklin fire, yeah. He didn't get out here. Scary. Yeah. Caleb Durbin, the Brewers prospect makes sense. Caleb Durbin, the Yankees prospect, felt like they would have gave him three weeks.

Everyone ends up booing him. And then he's trapped on Paraza Island. interested to see what the crew have in the tank for the rest of their offseason. I'll be honest with you. The Brewers are one of the first teams I've looked at in like, that's kind of set it and forget it. They get five in the rotation. Their bullpen and their lineup, like everything checks out.

For the defending Central winning champs, 93 wins from the Brewers last year. A lot of talk about the Yankees. Where are they going to go next? Cody Bellinger, who you just met. mention. The Yankees have potential needs. Centerfields, third base or second base,

first base, and another outfield spot that the Yanks ain't done. And it's just where are they going to go? Because you said it's scary trading out of that starting pitching depth. Well, that's currently what they have remaining. Yeah.

That I wouldn't be surprised if a Clark Schmidt or Stroman is traded. Or Luis Heel, that he was the one who is rumored. He's a chip for them. He's the trade chip. For Kyle Tucker, he was the guy that had to go. The Yankees are saying they wouldn't throw him in. There's other reports saying otherwise.

I was laughing a little bit earlier that if the Red Sox and Yankees didn't know that it was the Red Sox and the Yankees, would Hill and Kossis be traded for each other already? Dude, I would not trade Luis Heel if I was, the only person I think I would trade him for, because that obviously is never going to happen when you just said, was a Kyle Tucker. Like a player like that. And there's just not that many guys out there that are for, you know, for sale. Hill for Pasquantino?

He's filthy, dude. He's filthy. And that's where it, the Yankees coming off of the Juan Soto News and Trev, you had some commentary about Yankee fans. Now a couple days later from the Juan Soto News. I don't know if you want to address that or not. No, I don't. It's funny how quickly they can pivot, huh? Yeah, my producer on my other show, yeah.

One picture. One bad picture with the little belly show in it now, hey, live there, Juan. Welcome to the club. Brewers, by the way, two consecutive Team Gold Glove Awards. I was on that. It's not bad. That man, the Blue Jays, back to back years. Oh, so they do it each.

league, that makes sense. And in my head, I had the Blue Jays, and I didn't know how, never mind. It's what do the Yankees do? Is there a Bregman or Christian Walker? I think there's a good chance that you're going to see, I think you're going to see one impact-free agent. I think you're going to see another trade, whether that's Heel, Strowman, Clark Schmidt has some good value. Strowman would be interesting. The other one that I've been daydreaming, Stroman for like a Jamer Candelario. He kind of got lost in Sinci. He had a down year since he gets a pitcher.

But then you're trading kind of, I don't want to say ugly for ugly, because that's disrespectful. But I don't know. The Yankees don't, like no one feels good doing that trade. He keeps struggling for depth. Yeah, the return isn't going to be what you'd like it to be.

You're definitely selling low. I think he's, I think he's great as a depth piece for your rotation. The Yankees need a left. Trev, the 2023 Yankees Get off the wallet. What do you mean trade? Hey, okay, who do you want him to sign?

I would love a Christian Walker. Sure. To me, Bregman just does, this doesn't feel like he can be a Yankee. I don't know why. I understand what you're saying. There's something that feels a little dirty about it, but Christian Walker to be awesome.

And maybe he is, but I also, I need some lefties with pop, because Juan Soto gave me 40 last year coming off of a season. Before him, the Yankees did not make the postseason. So they have some young, Austin Wells had a great campaign as a lefty catcher. Is Dominguez going to actually get a chance to run? He's a switch.

Yeah, what's up with that guys? I think he is. I think they will at this point. But you still need another outfielder. And okay, say it is Christian Walker. Like now you're getting righty heavy again that with Stanton and Judge, it just becomes a, a lineup that those guys are fantastic, but certain days they can be easy to pitch to.

So a lot of people circling around Bellinger I don't know about the fit with the New York Yankees. Kyle Tucker was the piece that I wish the Yankees would do some dirty work and be like, Cubs, come on. Kyle, now that you have Kyle Tucker, Louis Heel? I don't think, I don't think this. Okay, okay. I said I wouldn't give.

heel up, but what about one of the young Baltimore outfielders? Is that, is it worth it? Because that's young for young. Man, yeah, that's young for young. GMs don't do that. They're too scared.

They're going to get hurt by it. So, I don't know. The Yankees are going to pitch, man. Colfried, Rodon, Heel, Devin Williams, Luke Weaver. They re-signed Jonathan Loisiga. What was that face?

What was that face? I don't want to say this. I don't want to put this out there. I just had a premonition. And we got, according to my thing here, a lot of people watching. 2,000 people watching right now. I saw a guy in Pinch Stripes, a guy that I'm very familiar with. Minnesota Twins are, they're in an interesting situation right now.

TV deal is weird, ownership's about to change. Byron Buxton in New York would be something. would be absolutely something. Judge, go back to right field. Byron Bucksson, play center field. I thought you were going to say Correa. Maybe. I think Buck might be a little bit easier to pry away.

You mean Correa, we were on the field at Yankee Stadium this year, hanging out together. We're boys. I'm not saying it's going to happen. I'm just saying I had the premonition of Byron Buxton roaming center field in the Yankee Stadium in it. bias aside, it was kind of sexy.

If you can keep them healthy. Oh, Yankees are great at that. Yeah, that's what we're known for. The Dodgers don't care about health, dude. I mean, who's an injury guy on their team? Nobody. Their entire starting pitching staff. Yeah, that's true.

Every single person. But they just have done a Jedi mind trick where they say, we don't care about health. Yankees need to do that. Health doesn't matter. Health. Or do you go by this? I think, yeah, I don't know.

I was going to go into my lineup pitching theories. I'm not going to do that. Yankees have a couple different routes. There's some free agents out there. There's some trades out there. They might roll some kids out there, man. Because also the AL's in a funky spot, Trev. I've been saying that.

The ALs in a funky spot. The Yankees are still. On this day, A.L. Favorites. Betting odds. Not sure how that slices. I mean, I guess who else would it be? But it seems pretty crazy to me. Like, if you look at this roster, as it's set today,

in most years, you would not say, yes, 100% A.L. favorite. I mean, if the Red Sox make the right trade tomorrow, they might be the 1B as American League favorites. Byron has, I'm just looking now. I don't want this to happen. Minnesota people, I'm so sorry. but now my mind is racing.

I don't think Yankee fans want this to happen in the nicest way. I think you would love Byron Bucks and in Centerfield. I absolutely would. $15 million a year for the next four years. That is very, very doable. Okay. You're Stroman? No.

What the? What? I don't know what it would take. I'm just. I just had that in my head, okay? That's all I'm saying. We're off, we're off track now. You and me being GMs just getting into fights.

It's hanging up the phone angrily. The Manasian brothers are doing that, aren't they? I did not realize that there was brothers who were GMs. How does that happen? How does that happen? Every single deal between them needs to be, like, scrutinized with a magnifying glass. Like, that is one of the hard. hardest jobs to get in sports, right?

Like, to be able to get to that position means you have to be really good at it. You have to work super hard. They were just around the game forever. You have to get the right opportunities right. And they were. Like, this is no shots at the Manasian brothers. But also, like, also how? Yeah.

You know? Yeah. Hey, maybe they're, that's why we'll be talking about the Angels, Giants World Series at the end of this. Treve, you got anything else you want to scratch before? Because we're going to do a Monday episode and we still have so much to catch up on but those were the two breaking things today.

I got nothing else. I got you to the gym, dude. Yeah, you do. Yeah, yeah, you do. It's the holidays. Hey, thank you, everyone. Maybe we will get some more baseball juice in the next couple days. You guys are the best.

Thank you. Sucks. Make sure you're subscribed. That helps. I don't say you don't want Byron Buckson. I didn't say that. I'm saying it. Yankees fans have seen a lot of injuries.

That's all I'm saying. Yeah, the game log's not too high. I'm looking at the baseball reference page. Maybe throw in the Minnesota Moose?