Talkin' Baseball (MLB Podcast) - Make or Break For These Teams!
Episode Date: June 30, 2025Book your next trip at https://www.bestwestern.comUse code TALKIN2025 for 10% off your next SeatGeek order*: https://seatgeek.onelink.me/RrnK/TALKIN2025. Sponsored by SeatGeek. *Restrictions apply. Ma...x $20 discountDownload the DraftKings Sportsbook app and use promo code JMBASEBALLCoach Trev and Talkin’ Jake recap the latest MLB weekend, which teams are make or break right now, Tigers continuing their dominance, NL Central toughest division in baseball and bad teams winning big series’0:00 Intro2:50 AL Burn10:00 AL Standings13:50 Mariners / Rangers20:18 Cubs / Astros23:40 Orioles / Rays27:25 Blue Jays / Red Sox31:50 A’s / Yankees33:40 Twins / Tigers38:30 Giants / White Sox39:20 Dodgers / Royals40:00 NL Burn42:30 NL Standings45:50 Cardinals / Reds50:14 Phillies / Braves53:15 Mets / Pirates57:00 Diamondbacks / Marlins1:00:00 Standout Performances1:09:45 En Fuego1:13:00 Batters who are struggling1:18:50 Injured List update1:19:40 Awards Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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Hello and welcome to talking baseball.
It's the last episode of June.
Some teams are June swuming.
Some teams are hot in the street.
The Cardinals won't die.
Let's talk ball.
Let's talk ball.
Sunny Gray.
Lars Newt Bar.
Sunny Gray.
Ace adjacent.
We're not talking that much Cardinals alone.
Welcome to Talking Baseball.
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I am Jake Strombo.
That is Trevor Goof. Bobby Sarachi is here. None of that was real. But what is real? Baseball's here, man.
Trev, I am juiced. I don't know if it's because all the other sports are dead. I don't know if it's because Mariners, Rangers all went to extra innings.
Cubs, Houston, the teams that are trading for each other are facing. Like, I love it. This was an awesome weekend of baseball.
Of course, the Pirates and Marlins swept. How you do it?
coach. I'm doing great. Back home at Magnum Condom Studio feels nice to have like my setup here.
Because I've been on the road for quite some time. So I'm happy, man. It's like got my fam here. It's a beautiful summer week. It's fourth of July week, which is turned into my favorite holiday. I actually asked the question of that on the broadcast to Corey Provost. And he said Thanksgiving. And I said, that's ridiculous. And then when he started to like talk about it, like, you
You know what? Maybe Thanksgiving is an awesome holiday.
You can do it right, but something to summer and Fourth of July.
And Trev, I know, oddly enough, the comment section have gotten a little mad at you
because you have the USA as a top two country and it ain't two.
And I know that, you know, some people fight that and they give you...
It's insane.
They give you Icelandic school stats.
But no, when the Fourth of July hits proper, it's undefeated.
There's fireworks. There's food. There's drinks. Sun, night. We're not there yet. We've got one more day of June, 30 days, half September, April, June, and November. That one's for the kids.
And, dude, Trev, this is so, watching what the Tigers did to your twins to end last night. We're going to get there, okay?
Looking at some of the raise stats. Are people buying Oriole stock?
No, shouldn't be.
Shohay, RIP Dave Parker, like some of his highlights were going around,
and what a stud that, that dude was.
Mets are hosting player only meetings.
We got to get into it.
So let's do it.
And Trev, we start out in the American League.
And how about the Texas Rangers and the Seattle Mariners,
the best of the West.
Are they Houston still there?
The Mariners take two out of three.
Like I told you, we went extras in every game.
That first one, snow day.
Mom came home early, caught you masturbating.
Makes the game-saving catch and then gets the game-winning hit.
Defense matters, people.
And then in that second game, defense matters again
before the Marcus Simeon walk-off.
We get a throwout at home by your guy, Ozuna, sure.
And then in that third game, we're going extras again.
These two teams have a lot of guys that have played Mitch Garver,
Sam Haggerty revenge series.
Mariners get the best of it.
Exciting stuff out west.
We'll stay out there because the Houston Astros,
they face off with the Chicago Cubbies,
and they took the bread games.
Brandon Walter is just one of the best pitchers in baseball now.
Okay.
What the hell is that about?
But hey, Detroit, Kyle Tucker Revenge Series.
He goes four hits, three RBIs in that second game.
Astros, roll them.
And then so does Framber.
That curve ball.
I think it's the pitch with the third most strikeouts this year.
You want some stats?
There you go, people.
Six-inning shutout.
Altuves Homer is the only.
only run scored. They take the series. They take the third game. This, oh, coming back to it,
the Tampa Bay race took two out of three from the Baltimore Orioles. Hey, rays go up early. Six
nothing. We're about to clean house. Orioles come back with 22. Gary Sanchez,
everyone, if you're going to put up 22, rays came back for that second game, but then Dean Kramer
Seven-inning shutpiece, Orioles take the set from Tampa,
who have been the best team in the AL in the month of June.
The Toronto Blue Jays, they take two out of three from the Red Sox.
Of course they did.
Jose Berrios with another great start.
Addison Barger and Nathan Lucas is back.
Two hits on that final day.
Red Sox put up a 15 spot, and Gioidos actually look great lately.
Unfortunately, could that become true?
Trade talk?
We'll talk about that.
The Minnesota Twins and the Detroit Tigers, good team, bad team.
Twins, they win the first game.
David Festa.
Buxton looks great.
Tigers come back for the next couple.
McKinstry and Riley Green with three hit days.
Jesus was a carpenter, but Jesus might have heard his hammy running out a triple.
Scoobol is unreal, man.
That was a sight to see last night.
13 strikeouts.
The Yankees take two out of three from the A's, and that's obvious,
as they win the bread games.
Oh, Aaron Judge with a casual two-homer game during the final one.
Young William Warren has really turned it on for the Yankees.
So have Jazz and Belly.
Bong.
Yankees win the series.
The Dodgers, they do the same.
They take two out of three from the Royals.
Royals have been a bad place for a little while.
Dodgers are in the good place.
Shohei Otani and Max Money in that first game?
Uh-huh.
our guy Vinnie Pee and the second one,
Homer, Indian wit with four hits each.
You know how Trev feels about their general looks.
But the Dodgers get it done in that final game.
First baseman Kike Hernandez, of course.
Nationals, they take two out of three from the Angels.
We could be telling a very different story about this series.
The Angels could have swept this,
but a late Nationals push in the first game
and in that final game where the Nationals end up taking it
in 11. They score on Kenley. Jacob Young takes it to extras. Nats take two out of three. And the San Francisco
Giants face the Chicago White Sox and the White Sox took two out of three. What is we doing, baby?
Signor puke, Adrian Houser with the nice start. Kyle Teal is up and he is hitting. Mike Talkman,
that's all he does. And your best Western road warriors, the Cardinals swept the guards. Chris Rose's
Guards. Brought to you by Best Western Hotels and Resorts. Life's a trip. Make the most of it.
And that's what the Cardinals did. They've won six straight on the road. That's the longest streak under
Ali Marmel. Sunny Gray, nine innings. One hit, 11Ks, 89 pitches. Ace adjacent.
Sunny Gray is that, dude. And now, Sunny Gray's last shutout, his catcher, Stephen Vote,
the guy in the dugout for the Guardians. How about it?
the Cardinals. How about Best Western? Make sure when you guys go on your trip this summer,
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start this year. Best Western was there. Omaha, wherever you're going, planning on it or not.
Best Western is there. So make sure when you hit the road, go check them out. Make the most of your
summer with Best Western. Life's a trip. Trev, I'm praying you got the standings.
Will you put some respect on Sunny Gray's name? Stop calling him Ace adjacent. He have almost
2000 innings of three five ball. You're the one that called him that.
those are your words that's not find the clip right now
I will I will
A Tsai young three a Sai young seven and a sigh young two under the belt
I've been doing it for 50 years still looks like he's 22
yeah it's got a little story Ellie
son of a gun I do have the standings my gosh how many series did you read in the AL
so much I know Dalton has a system but I you know balance
I don't know what the system is balance is key
I think he tries to go with who the home team was, so I appreciate it.
That's still only should be half.
I tend to agree.
Maybe that's wrong, actually.
Oh, boy.
Oh, God, that's simulation talk.
I do have the standings.
We're going to start out east.
Your Yankees opening it up a little bit against the race with a one and a half game lead.
They're 48 and 35.
I got questions for you.
Right.
Tampa Bay Rays, 10 games over 500, 47 and 37.
Toronto Blue Jays still kind of hanging in there, 45 and 38.
Three games back in that division.
The Red Sox, what is you doing, baby?
I don't, that's, oh, that season.
41 and 44, the Baltimore Orioles, Jake's buying all the stock.
Way to go.
36 and 47.
And then in the central, the Tigers tied with the Dodgers.
tied with the Dodgers for the best record in all of baseball.
53 and 32.
The Guardians and the Twins getting closer.
11 and a half games back for the Guardians.
They're 40 and 42.
My twins making a run for it.
No, they're not.
It's 12 and a half games back.
They're 40 and 44.
A ton of question marks on that team right now.
My goodness.
Kansas City Royals, what is you doing, baby?
39 and 45 and the White Sox.
My guy Chase Midroth,
favorite player in the league right now, 28 and 56.
He had a slide.
I was going to get that highlight up because he just,
I don't know why I like him so much.
They say what the White Sox are.
They're 28 and 56.
They're only 24 and a half out right now.
It's not a big deal.
And then out west, finally, the Astros, 50 and 34.
Just creeping up on the best record in baseball.
Nobody's talking about it.
There's six and a half games above the Mariners who are 43 and 40.
The Angels, okay, they're still right around 500.
It's a victory for them on the year.
41 and 42, a lot more coming about them later on in the episode.
Texas Rangers 41 and 43.
Like, what is you doing, baby?
And then the athletics, 34 and 52.
In the wild card, Jake, this is where things get interesting.
Because we have a million teams within reach still.
Tampa Bay Area is three and a half games up.
Toronto Blue Jays, two games up.
They're the first two spots in the wild card.
The Mariners sit with the commanding.
two-game lead over the Angels for the third wildcard spot.
Rangers two and a half out.
Guardians two and a half out.
Red Sox, twins, three and three and a half games out.
I'll throw the Royals in.
They're four and a half games out.
That's incredible.
A bunch of teams under 500 still right in the mix.
Fangraphs, Jake, has projected last wildcard team in,
84 wins.
Yeah.
Those are the standings in the American League.
Nobody does it better.
Trev, there's the Chase Midroth slide that everyone's trying to get into this.
I just love that right away.
He's like, I got in there.
Watch this.
I'm good.
A little hezy hay on the bases.
Oh, oh, the tag just never gets there.
Trev, you're in a great mood.
You're back home.
You had a great time with the family.
Fourth of July, the A.L. Central sucks.
Yeah.
Well, there's one good team.
There's one really good team, maybe the best team in the American League.
But those standings are brutal to look at.
Yeah, I mean, look, the twins are wildly inconsistent.
Shrieky is all hell.
And then I think like the guardians and the royals always have trouble scoring.
So like that's not like good.
That's going to cause you to lose some games.
I mean, yeah, there's one team above 500.
Not too long.
Hey, Jake, you know what?
Like a month ago, they were all in the playoffs.
I know.
My oh my.
A lot of change since then.
The East has surged a little bit, and I still have a lot of stock out west because we could,
if the Angels won that final Kenley closes the door yesterday, they're 42 and 41.
If the Rangers had won one of those extra inning games, they're 42 and 42.
And that's probably where we start, Trev, Seattle and Texas.
Two teams I like a lot.
I think both the, I talk about these teams differently because, well, the Texas Rangers won a word series in Seattle hasn't won a playoff matchup.
So I guess I do judge them differently on that scope.
I think these two teams are so close for whatever reason.
These teams only pitch right now, although we got a little bit of offense in both games.
But yeah, whether you like the old bull or the young calves, we've got Avaldi, we've got Luis Castillo, Brian Wu, Logan, Gilbert, Jack,
Clyder Kumar Rocker.
I love every pitcher that touched the mountain this series.
And I love most of the guys who are stepping into the batters box.
It's just some of these guys are struggling except Big Dumpur
who's starting to get the intentional walk treatment.
That we're starting to see a lot of that around baseball.
Ask my guy James Wood with four straight intentional walks on Sunday.
But Trev, I know I made my Master Boney joke on the way through,
but it's my perfect example of the nerds,
went too far, that defense still super matters.
Because if he doesn't squeeze this ball, it's game over, walk off, Rangers win.
And instead, he catches that.
He comes up the next inning and gets the hit.
And that changes the whole series.
What do you mean that the nerds like defense?
I don't think we, sometimes I'm okay with you banging on analytics and all the front
office stuff that comes along in the game nowadays, but they've always like defense.
They like defense.
And this probably might be tricky for people
because I've talked about how much I enjoy hitting
and how much that matters.
Trevor, it used to be a requirement
that if you played a position at the major league level,
you had to be able to play that position.
Now you get there with the stick and we figure it out.
Sure, I can see that.
It depends on the organization.
This is going to get into a much broader conversation.
I think we're seeing teams choose their own adventure.
Like, what are we going to be?
Are we going to be a bopping team,
which I believe like the Rangers
that's their ideal
identity as a team
that can bop a little bit
and obviously they're throwing the ball.
The bullpen's been great.
We know about the starting pitchering.
But like I think if they're taking their position players
that they're more so a team that rakes
or are supposed to rake.
Excuse me.
And then you have the cheap teams.
That's what I'll call them.
Who they're after defense because it's cheap.
Defense and speed.
That's what the brewer.
are doing. That's what the raise do.
That's what these teams that, quote, unquote,
can't spend a bunch of money.
That's what they're doing. So that's a whole
different conversation, though.
Fine. Yeah, but no, a great,
this is a fun series because these two
teams are, you know, the Mariners are trying
to keep pace in the West.
They're trying to keep pace in the wild card.
And, you know, getting to
watch them, I've watched two series
now up close with them.
They have,
they have a good enough squad
where if they got into the playoffs
you could be really scared of them
lately the bullpen hasn't been as good
they have some really talented arms back there
but Munoz is kind of showing some cracks as of late
and then
offensively
it just like
it's a streaky team I think
like Cal's there he's been consistent
you're mentioning the walks that have been showing up
they still have guys around
him they can get it done and like put up good at bats like a rosarana we know he can carry a team
offensively and Julio Rodriguez like if he gets going like so they have they have like three or four
bats that you can say okay like these are our guys and then the bottom of the line a bunch of kind
of contact oriented um athletes and you know every once in a while they show up and the mariners
look like they're an unbeatable team and then if they don't show up it becomes
such a
I mean you're looking at outs
at the bottom of the lineup
so that's kind of like the ebbs and flows
of the Mariners series at least that I have seen
and I think Mariners fans will agree with me
if the bottom of the lineup shows up and puts
together good at bats like they're a daunting
team it's just really hard
I think to count on
those guys because it has
been like inconsistent for them
yeah I have both
of these teams labeled as the
the AL Wildcar team you don't
want to play.
Whoever's on the mound for either
these teams is a problem.
And again, I guess for Seattle,
you know, the Cal Rally effect,
like he's going to start getting intentionally walked.
Like if someone hits a double ahead of him,
you're putting him on first base.
And the Mariners lineup,
which has been a topic of conversation on this show for years,
they are now going to be tested in that regard.
And in that first game,
They actually, Cal came up later when he got a chance he made him pay that you feel those moments more.
The experience I'll relate with Mariners fans on a couple of the Yankees teams when Judge
took into the intentional walk treatment.
Man, the pressure on that guy behind him starts to build up.
And if you're coming through, it feels like you just bullied the other team.
When they don't get you, it feels like you're getting bullied.
You're like, we have this amazing weapon that is now completely neutralized.
And the whole team feels that.
So that's going to be something to watch for them going forward.
But credit to Seattle, because you talk about team building and identity too,
twice in the extra inning box score, Donovan Solano.
Yeah, no, he's, you know, that matters.
He's going to give you a good at bat.
Like, the Mariners have guys that will give you a good at bat.
It's just the lineup can be light down there at the bottom.
They got some fun players, like Cole Young's first year.
He's kind of like spraying the ball around a little bit.
again, it's like, it's flip a coin almost.
If those guys have good series or one guy steps up,
they're going to win series.
If they don't, then they don't.
That's like it is,
they go as the bottom of their lineup goes.
And Cal's going to win you some games,
obviously.
Their pitching is going to win you some games, obviously.
But like winning series and putting together stretches,
it's all about that bottom part of the lineup for them.
Let's stay out west, Trev, because the Houston Astros, like we've been telling people, they were coming.
They came.
Excuse me.
And now they continue to roll as they face the Chicago Cubs where they traded Tucker and Presley.
Nice moment for the fellow's return in there.
And they end up handling the Cubbies who haven't been as hot in the street themselves lately.
But the Astros are winners of six out of seven.
Cam Smith with a homer, hater on the back end.
Like the whole recipe is there for Houston.
And it's kind of funny.
I think now people are starting to treat them like one of the powers of the American League.
I mean, yeah, like I said, I think they're three games back with the best record in all of baseball.
This was a fun one because of the trades that went on during the off season.
You saw Cam Smith put his team up, I think it was, you put up seven and nothing in the fourth in the first game,
like a huge bomb onto the train tracks.
So open the series up like that has to feel good.
Hey,
you traded me away.
I'll be it for,
if you get traded for Kyle Tucker,
you're like,
all right,
like I get it.
Right.
You know,
I don't think you feel like the animosity.
A lot of the guys do.
It's like,
all right.
Like,
you get,
they knew they had to give up a lot to get this guy.
I'm the,
I'm the,
a lot part of that.
Fine.
But still,
hitting a homer against your,
uh,
former organization has to feel really good.
And you see that,
he walked that thing out.
Yeah.
Up on the track.
And then he has another one in game two.
He's like, oh, I'm going to be the hero.
I'm going to win this series single-handedly.
But then Kyle Tucker hits a bomb.
I think they had three homers in an inning against Lance McCuller's Jr.
There, and they end up pounding him in the second game.
But then, of course, Frambert to the rescue on the rubber match.
He has a great start.
Altovae hits the two-run homer, and then Josh Hayter seals at 23 to 23 on the year.
I mean, that's a Houston Astros playoff win if I've ever seen one right there.
Framberg lays down, quality start.
Altuve hits a clutch homer, and then you got Abraeu and Hayter in the back end of the bullpen just doing their thing.
I mean, it's why the Astros can be daunting.
I know we say this every time we talk about them, but it's true.
Wait till they get Yordaunt back.
We're talking about, I believe, is it the second best record?
in the
They're above the Yankees, right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Second best record in the AL,
second best record in all of baseball,
and they haven't had your Don Alvarez.
It's like a trade, bro.
Right?
You get them at the deadline.
Yeah, it's happening.
The Cubbies, I mean, I think we'll end up circling back on them
a little bit in the National League
because it's gotten a little tighter.
but like, I don't know, at the same time, King Tuck is here.
He's now third in the NL in war behind PCA and Otani.
They've been playing 500 balls, just the teams around them in the Central, you know,
have kind of caught up and caught fire a little bit.
So, you know, it's it's crunch time for them.
I'm actually seeing them in a week.
Okay.
As they come into Minnesota, I'm calling those games.
So I'll get a up close and personal look at the Cubs.
And I'm excited.
I want to see him.
Let's go east, young man.
I don't know if people talk about that.
With Memorial's race,
and I mentioned it on the way through that first game is crazy.
Rays go up six nothing.
Here we go.
Baltimore can't pitch.
Rays are the hottest team in the AAL.
Yoink.
Baltimore goes nuts.
Kobe Mayo has a couple big hits.
and, you know, this Orioles youth moving that we've been talking about.
The Orioles have some splits, Trev, that the brand of baseball they've been playing
haven't been as bad.
They're having a nice month of June.
I think they're 15 and 11.
It seems like too little too late.
But like you said, in those A.O. Wildcard standings, I don't, I don't know.
Right now they've got that Hunter.
I don't believe yet.
Nobody should.
but they're like, okay, we just got to get five games below 500.
And then we want to get to 500.
And then 34 wins.
It's fine to feel that way.
It's June 30th.
84 wins.
Like, I want to bury some teams.
Like, I want to bury the Braves, but, you know, you think back to their World Series
Year in 21 and how they didn't reach 500 until August or something ridiculous like that.
Like, like, it is baseball.
You don't want to totally give up on the season, June 30, especially with that talent.
But you know what?
They've gotten better pitching performances as a late.
Like Charlie Morton has kind of like turned it around.
Yeah.
So maybe that's great for their season or great for his trade value.
Dean Kremmer with an incredible start here.
I don't think he went to what, seven shuddy in that last game.
Yeah, the first two games were kind of just oddball games.
It was six to nothing, Tampa Bay in the bottom of the second.
And I believe my guy Spilly was it was the Apple TV game.
And he said something like, that might be.
had knockout in the second inning for the race.
And then, yeah, they end up scoring 22 runs in the game.
Kobe Mayo's catching flack for hitting a home runoff a position player.
People thought he was like pimping that.
He wasn't.
He was being like, what?
This is weird.
It was awkward.
That's what it was for him.
Yeah, then the raise kind of blew him out there in the second game.
And I mentioned, you know, it was Dean Kremmer Day.
And that's, you know, that's been the Orioles.
Oh, there it is.
I think he's like, what are we doing here?
Yeah.
See, even he doesn't like that.
Right.
He likes that.
That's his first Major League Homer, by the way.
So that's what's crazy.
Hey, it looks like a homer in the scorebook, Trev.
That's what they always say.
It kind of stinks.
They don't say that.
They don't say that at all.
I got my first homer off Jose Cabiero.
Is it a name?
Yeah, you're right.
Hey, I've got both teams circled.
The race have been so good.
They had the big month.
Their offense has been the best in baseball.
The Orioles are going to scrounge for these.
They've got till the trade deadline.
Like if keep winning some games and, you know,
show up in that wild card graphic and be four games back
and that could change the tone.
You're not there yet.
Hey, sneaky, Gunner Henderson is just like back to being his old self.
Remember, I think.
For some reason in my head,
head, oh, like, he's not, he's got off to a little bit of a slow start. That's just not the case.
He's doing, he's doing it. Yeah, the lefties were getting him a little bit. I mean, I still think
we expect a little more from Gunner, but it was a slow start. He had an oblique thing to start
the year, so did you DM him? Um, Trev, I, Blue Jay's Red Sox, I don't know how much you
want to dive. I mean, obviously there were some good performances in this game. Your guy, Burrios,
um, Red Sox and their sixth game losing street.
in the middle one.
I don't know.
Right now this is a little bit good team, bad team.
The Walker Bueller stuff is getting really interesting
with how are they going to handle that.
And I'll be honest, and maybe it segues to Yankees a little bit.
Yanks and Blue Jays are about to play four in the Great North,
and maybe the series I'm most hyped for so far this year for my Yanks.
Yeah, first two games were kind of just lopsided there.
Blue Jays' role in game one.
Boston wins 15 to 1.
in that game two,
Gialito and I start,
then yeah,
the Walker Bueller experiment,
I don't know.
I don't know what they're going to do.
They paid him,
was it, one year,
$21 million to be there?
He's had some interesting quotes
that's basically saying like,
I stink right now.
Yeah.
And I don't know what to do about it.
That's never good to hear from your,
you know,
free agent acquisition.
Yeah,
I don't know what to do with the Red Sox.
I do not know what to do with the Red Sox.
So Raphael is having,
obviously his best offensive months still doing things out there but as a whole they've just not
being able to string together wins for the blue jays yeah this huge series uh coming up there in
against new york and i love here it's like i believe barger and vladdie go back to back and
like we can kind of like dream about that for years to come if you're a blue jays fan that's nice
yeah i don't know i'm i'm big on the blue jays it's a big one come
coming up. Addison Barger, okay, Tampa Florida High School. All right.
He's a stud, dude. Trev, you mentioned, and I hope you still remember, I think when the Yankees
got mentioned when you said the standings, you said you had a question for me. Do you remember what
that was or what that was? Yeah, what was the Jacob Wilson, like, who was that?
Ian Hamilton. Ian Hamilton. What was that about? What was going on there?
So for those of you that call me out on my fandom sometimes,
Ian Hamilton was in the wrong.
So it's the pitcher, pitcher mode.
You know, Jacob Wilson's up, couple guys on,
gets a chopper right back to the pitcher.
Ian Hamilton fielded it, looked at Wilson,
and he did say, run.
So I think he was just in that pitcher locked in intense mode.
Oh, loser mode.
Okay.
It's another way to phrase it.
Yeah.
They, yeah,
Jacob Wilson, the young kid kind of handled it perfectly.
He was like, yeah, I don't know what that was.
So, yeah, I don't know.
We had-
Race me?
Race me the bag.
We had Bartolo in the office a couple weeks ago.
And Bart said, you know, in a comical way, you know,
if he feel that it, he would take his time just because, you know,
you can run to first.
I can do my thing, but he didn't.
Bartolo wouldn't say run at them,
kind of like a high school bully in a movie.
So yeah, Ian Hamilton, not in the right there.
Also, Jacob Wilson, like, setting the world on fire, bro.
He's going to win rookie of the year.
He's going to possibly be the starting shortstop
in the American League for the All-Star game.
Just, like, a little bit of respect.
I know he's a rook, but.
Yeah, I don't, pitchers are weird cats.
and he got out of the situation
and I don't know what that was.
I don't love it.
You know what?
It's funny because
Griffin Jacks
like sneaky talked crap
to Jacob Wilson
when he struck him out
he struck him on three pages
I think all changeups
it was dominant
but he came off the mound
saying like
something like
be better than that
or like he just like
he wanted more of a challenge
from Jacob Wilson
Jacob Wilson is like, bro, I'm just, what if I'm doing here?
I'm just trying to put the barrel on the ball.
That's all I'm doing.
New age kid meme.
I'm literally just being Jacob Wilson.
Just let me play baseball.
Jazz Chisholm is awesome.
Only players with as many homers and stolen bases through 500 career games.
Eric Davis and Alfonso Soriano.
Jazz has looked electric, had a quick injury scare.
And Judgey, who slowed down for a.
a little bit.
Finishes the last game with two homers.
He has some good numbers against those Toronto boys
that it's building up to be an exciting one.
Also on the A's front, Kurtz, comma, Nick.
He is fully broken out.
His last 23 games, he's got like a 1.2 OPS.
He's a dude.
It's a big boy.
You know what I have written down on my notes?
What's that?
It was for you.
Nick Kurtz, comma, future Yankee.
Oh, I could see that.
There's a little.
As everyone vomits all over.
No, absolutely.
It is funny seeing him and the young A's, Trev.
They're currently, we've talked about how ball players, you know, they evolve their look.
All of these athletics players are currently in their version one, like Jacob Wilson with the hair, Kurtz with the hair.
Who else had a?
Soderstrom, J.J. Bladay.
Like, everyone is still version one.
where the arbitration money hasn't kicked in yet.
But yeah, in a couple more years,
we're going to see a little more facial hair,
a couple more tighter looks.
But yeah, they're a group of boys,
and they can hit.
It's the pitching that struggles in Severino.
Their pitching is their bullpen is absolutely brutal.
Yeah, there's not a...
No offense to all you guys, but...
Not a lot of reliable as we put all their names on the screen.
Trev the other we keep saying there's a best team in the AL and it's the Detroit Tigers
and they showed that again over the weekend with the exclamation point on Sunday night
baseball Terrick Scouble seven innings one hit 13 strikeouts and just as as in control as a pitcher
can be pitching maybe maybe genuinely ever yeah no he's absolutely filthy
and it's it's it's I'm glad they got to showcase that on Sunday night baseball I have Robbie pulled up one clip that I think summarizes the Tigers season
especially from that game so you have scobs on the mound just absolutely dominating but then we have
Spencer Torkelson turning this double play and I want to just get into it a little bit okay
all right roll it three nothing you know twins okay we got a base runner on and I believe it is that Brooks lee running I think it is
He ends up hitting him to do play.
I really want to show you the slow-mo of this.
So right here, stop it, Robbie.
Okay.
Right here, we got Torkelson, nice little scoop here.
Obviously, he's having every surgeon year, best year of his career,
has some nice swings in this series.
You see Bader.
Now, what do you taught to do as a runner?
Get in the way.
Get in the way.
So Bader's already getting his momentum over there.
Now, just watch the throw.
Slow-mo.
Yeah, watch. So he sees him going in. He starts it right over his right shoulder and then kind of like has that ball run that way. Who's he throwing it to? Center fielder, shortstop, maybe come back player of the year. Hobby Bayez. But watch the throw. He kind of clears the lane with the throw and then gets back, big stretch, turns the dough play, ends the threat. And I'm like thinking to myself when I'm watching this.
Spencer Torkelson and Javi Baez
are some of the most unlikely
comeback player of the year candidates out there
and they are absolutely doing it
this was just like it just had me
kind of in my feels about this Tiger team
because
I don't know I mentioned all the time
I got it wrong
but they look so consistent
they can beat you in so many different ways
and we went over this
I don't know if this is on a previous episode
or if I was talking about on my broadcasting
I talk about a lot of ball, a lot of different places.
Last and stolen bases for the Tigers,
but they go first or third more than anybody.
The top ranked base running BSR team in all the baseball,
like they're doing the little things right,
and they keep talking about AJ Hinch,
and who was on talking about him?
Somebody was talking about him,
talking about how he's always one move.
They were talking about him on the broadcast,
and his big old whiteboard he has in his,
office and how he's always one move ahead and how prepared he is.
And I'm starting to like, you hear it, you hear it again and again and again, like where there's
smoke, there's fire.
I'm starting to think that he might be like the most prepared manager.
Wow.
Is that Carlos Correa during the game when he was-
Carlos Correa, what exactly?
Carlos Correa was miced up talking about it in the game and just talked about how prepared
he is.
And Carlos is a guy that loves stuff like that.
So you're getting maybe one of the only managers that actually,
makes a difference in games
because he's always getting the matchups he wants
he's trying to figure out the lanes
but the tiger's just playing good ball
they do lose Kerry Carpenter to a hammy
I think he had heard it earlier in the game
and he tried to leg out a triple and was like I'm good
getting an MRI today
that's that's tough for them as he's obviously
their biggest offensive piece
but tigers man
I just don't know Torkelson to buy us back to Torquist
and I was like gosh dang it dude
Yeah, those two guys that weren't guaranteed to be on their roster to start the year.
Like Torgeson is either traded or minor leagues again.
Baez, we've been debating cut for so long.
Well, Trace Sweeney was supposed to take over.
They were telling me that they, you know, won the Jack Flaherty trade and all these things,
which they basically did because Jack's back with them.
But Hobby Baez outfielder turned back to shortstop.
It's like a lot of things going right there in Motor City.
And also on the broadcast,
I watched an ESPN last night.
A, Eduardo, our guy,
he was great on Correa ranging far to his left,
and he mentioned, you know,
we compliment Correa's arm a ton because you should,
but he mentioned Correa never drops down.
He's always over the top.
So that made his play going to the left oddly difficult
when so many short stops or middle infielder's dropped down.
And I was like, that's a really good note, Eduardo.
Yeah.
And then I just, he usually, he needs to spin move on those plays, because then he can get back over the top.
That one, I guess he thought he didn't have time or something.
Yeah.
And just to add to your tigers, okay, show me an example of why the tigers are the best team.
Scoobel to Canley to vest.
Yep.
Yeah.
You mentioned Torkelson, Tobias to Torkelson, which I didn't realize Torkelson was a little bit more of a cool baseball story.
he like got cut from his under 15 team.
Like he's got,
I just know Torkelson as the top pick in the draft,
but he's got some good,
he's had to earn it along the way.
And then Riley Green Homer,
Kerry Carpenter two-hit game and a homer.
That it's like, yeah.
Glaver's.
So Riley Green is absolutely mashing.
And Matt Veerling's back.
So that's, you know, I'm happy.
And he's hot.
God, Treb, it's the point.
part of the season where things are so chunky.
There's a lot we've missed.
There's a lot more to cover.
I don't know, Poppo.
Giants, what is you doing?
Baby, you need to score some freaking runs against the White Sox.
How many runs they score in this series?
They scored five runs in three games.
Yeah.
They lose the series because of it.
And then we get some more stuff in Nationals, Angels coming up.
Dodgers over the Royals, kind of good team, bad team.
There. Shout up Vinny. He put the team on his back in game two, though, with a five RBI.
Had to. I mean, where the Royals are at in the standings is getting scary.
When the Crosstown Cardinals just cannot be stopped.
Have we talked about the Cardinals yet?
I think we got to hit the, they were our best Western team. I think we got to hit them in the NL a little bit.
Because, again, there's only, we have four series listed in the NL. So let's get over there.
We'll hit some Cardinals on the way through.
In your National League, speaking of what is we doing, baby.
The Pittsburgh Pirates opened up a can of whoopass on the New York Mets.
9192-121.
A historic weekend in a shocking way.
As the Pirates go, we haven't been talking a lot of Key Brian Hayes recently.
Used to be featured on this program.
IKF, Joey Bart, Nick Gonzalez, wearing Dave Part
Parker's number.
The Pirates went nuts, and the Mets are very much June swooning right now.
And maybe they should have a late-night phone call with the Diamondbacks,
because the Diamondbacks got swept by the Marlins, the fish,
and such brutal back-breaking fashion.
The Diamondbacks get the tying run on late.
It's not enough.
They get out of it.
Extra innings.
Marlins win, 8-7, and then the Marlins put down.
the sweep. Otto Lopez. Kyle Stowers is everywhere. I'll let Trev talk about
Erberto Hernandez. Marlins get the sweep. Philly's take two out of three from the
Braves. Good team, rat team a little bit. Trey Turner, you might hear some of that
coming up in a second. Shwellenbach with a great game in the middle as he has been this
whole season, third in the National League and whip. But the Phillies, two one game. Treves Otto
Kemp, my Ranger Suarez,
embarrassing my Matt Olson
as they're chuckling
off the field.
America's team, the Cincinnati Reds
take two out of three from
the Padres. The highlights in this one are
awesome. Nick Martinez, Spencer
Steer, three homer
game. Padres
took that second one behind Gavin
Sheets in his resurgent
season, but go check out
Will Benson's walkoff. I mean,
basically, he looks
like God on the field.
Arms out, the team chasing him.
It was a powerful moment.
He might be my religion.
Brewers, Rockies, Brewers took two out of three.
Rockies, our inter-manager threw a big old freak out,
and they caught one of their best wins of the season.
You know it was Kyle Farmer with the RBI single.
Brewers took the first two games, and that's obvious.
That is what happened in the National League.
I'm what, Pop.
Way to run through that one.
I got the standings in the National League.
I'm going to start out east, and I'm going to tell you that the Philadelphia Phillies have a one and a half game lead over the New York Mets, Phillies 49 and 35 Mets, 48 and 37 Mets, definitely June Swoon.
You know what they got, Jake?
I believe they're only better than the Minnesota Twins in pitching ERA in the month of June, and the twins have been very, very bad.
Very bad.
Sorry, Mets, Griffin Canning Achilles.
Oh, my goodness.
The Braves, I don't know.
I feel like I've quit the Braves, but then again, maybe we shouldn't, but yes, we should.
38 and 45, they're 10 and a half game is back.
They're only a half game above the Marlins, 37 and 45 of the Nationals, 35 and 49.
In the Central, the Cubbies, the lead is down to two games.
49 and 35, the Brewers who have gone 8 and 2 in the last 10, they're 47 and 37 now.
They're a half game above the Cardinals who are 47 and 38.
the Reds 44 and 40
their five games back
and then the pirates after the sweep
35 and 50 out west
the Dodgers tied for the Tigers
best record in baseball Jake 53 and 32
they have now a seven
game lead over the Padres
45 and 38 Padres are having a nice season
yeah
not good enough
there a half game above the Giants who are 45 and 39
the Diamondbacks one game below 500
now at 41 and 42.
Are they back in cell mode now because they got swept?
Probably, I don't know.
19 and 65 for the Rockies.
And then we're going to go to the wild card Jake in the National League.
The Mets right now have the top wild card spot, brewers behind them.
The Cardinals sitting in that third spot.
So the NL Central right now has three teams in the playoffs.
The Padres are one game back.
The Giants are one and a half games back.
and the Reds are two and a half games back.
Those are the only teams all mentioned
because the snakes are five.
Braves are eight.
You've got to climb in and be closer than that
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Trev, we covered some cubbies.
Great team.
Got the work from Houston.
Brewers take two out of three from the Rockies,
which in a way ends up disappointing.
Of note, the Brewer's kid that was in the cutoff shirt,
that was my doppelganger.
I believe him or an AI version of him has reached out to me on the internet.
So we'll see what happens there.
Yeah, we're worried about that.
No way.
We're worried about that.
The two storyline teams, the Reds, who everyone loves apparently from our family feud,
and they are playing good baseball, and they had an awesome weekend at the ballpark.
But not as good as the Cardinals who got the sweep.
The Cardinals and the Reds, the Cardinals would be dancing as of today.
The Padres would not.
So let's do our Cardinals Reds talk.
I mean, Sunny Gray, with one of the Reds,
of the greatest pitching performances ever.
Okay.
Okay.
I mean,
89 pitches for a complete game shuddy.
Yeah.
You know, there's some stats on there.
You know, first time that's ever happened in baseball history.
Let me get it up here because Sonny Gray.
The only pitcher in Major League Baseball history.
To throw nine innings pitch, one or less hits, no earned runs, no walks, 11 plus Ks in under 90 pitches.
I mean, it really is one of the greatest starting pitching performances in the history of the game coach.
So you're going to win when stuff like that happens, okay?
The thing they got is getting me with this Cardinals team.
So I got an itchy nose right now.
What's up to that?
That's okay.
We're okay.
The thing that's getting me with this Cardinals team, Jake, is the contributions up and down the lineup.
Now, they didn't really need it in game one because of what Sonny.
Did. Victor Scott, though, obviously down there got some work done. But in the games two and three, spots six through nine were just going off for the Cardinals, quality of bats, driving in runs. And that's just, it's just the more and more you watch baseball, you understand like that's the separator. Like what are you getting from the bottom half of your lineup? Like most teams have some players at the top that get the job done. What are you getting from the bottom part of your lineup? If you're getting contributions,
And those guys are getting on base or, you know, producing power or moving runners, like having quality of bats, like more than likely you're going to start winning series.
You're going to start racking up series wins and rounds.
This is what the, this is what the Cardinals have been doing, excuse me, and the Tigers, if we're being honest.
But the Cardinals, like the length of their lineup is starting to, you know, like Nolan Aeronado is hitting six for them.
And like, and then bringing it back to the back part of their order.
and we're getting the catchers involved
and Victor Scott down there at the bottom
like they're just
they're putting together quality bats
they did that in the final two games
here is you know
they just put a manhandling
on the guardians
sweep them in Cleveland
yeah there there are some guardian stats
that say they're playing
some of the worst baseball in June
but that's none of St. Louis's business
as they put it in
and yeah there's just it's a
lot of ballplayers you like that it is funny to think, you know, if we could erase that one
horrible cardinal season out of our brains, like what would we think about this team?
And it's tough to do that.
But they head to Pittsburgh.
Their sixth and run scores.
They're pitching is middle of the pack, but we can also work with that.
And the only free agent signing they made was Phil Maeton, who's actually been really good
for them.
And him and Halsley on the back end have been.
one of the best, like, eighth inning, ninth inning pairings in balls.
So the Cardinals are fun, and they haven't been that either.
Nolan Gorman on Saturday, Norman Golan, Nolan, Gorman, two for five with a run driven in.
Pozo goes one for four with a run scored.
Victor Scott goes two for four with two runs driven in.
On Sunday, those are the seven through nine hitters, people.
on Sunday
we got
Paix
one for two
with an RBI
and a run driven in
Garrett Hampson
one for four
with the RBI
Victor Scott the second
two for four
with two runs driven in
7, 8, 9
and it was just getting
a freaking job done
that's the biggest
I mean it's like
not a secret
but like
that's how you win
series
right
it's it
the length of your lineup
maybe means
more than anything else
in all of baseball
It both then helps too.
Glad there's no more secrets.
And then Trev, okay,
we're juggling around this funky episode
as we had a very juicy American league.
I guess, honestly,
if you have some Philly's Brave's thoughts,
I'm going to jump there with my standout,
and the Reds, who I still want to talk about,
I think we can cover them there
a lot that I'm
if
Philly's Braves
Phillies Braves
Uh
Schwellenbach
becoming one of my
fair pitchers
to watch in all the baseball
12Ks
absolutely filthy
throwing whatever he wants
whenever he wanted for strikes
uh
this was a
I mean if we got the Sean Murphy Homer
off of Romano in game two
it's bottom of seven
grand slam
kind of like puts the game away
this thing was an absolute hangar
and Sean Murphy, just watch this.
There's the hangar and just punishes the ball.
Whenever you can have the pitcher bend over like that,
like he's going to puke, that's a good feeling as a hitter.
So puts the game away there.
And then in game three, it's Ranger Swores versus Spencer Strata.
You mentioned Ranger making Matt Olson look foolish up there.
They're having a good thing.
What was that?
I don't know.
Nobody's palm ball change up at 70 miles an hour.
It's the K there
But against
You know, you got these two pitchers
Dueling it out
You're not going to score a ton of runs
You know they're settling
settling in the Braves though
They played small ball in the fifth inning
There's the pitch
Show that again Robbie
77 on that
I don't even know what that
I think it was a chain job
Nasty
He struck him out on the same pitch twice
But the Braves
Oh my gosh
That old
Inning no Rangers dealing
They get a single
A double
they decide to sacrifice Bunt the double over.
Trey Turner with the sacrifice, fly.
They go up two to one.
They end up winning the game two to one.
So I love the small ball.
Maybe the Braves should play a little bit more small ball
to get back into the race here a little bit.
Okay.
I have a little more Phillies coming up.
Trev, there's one last topic that I almost missed
because it was so loaded.
You're New York Mets.
Are you worried?
Is this baseball gods?
Here we are.
This happens to everyone.
Juan Soto just put together the second best Mets hitting month in history
behind Daryl Strawberry.
But now the rest of the team has headed the wrong direction.
What are you seeing?
It's, I mean, for them, it's been the pitching.
You could talk about the offense, whatever, whatever.
It's been, they've been very, very bad in the month of June,
putting obviously too much pressure.
Look at this scores.
of this series,
9-1, 9-2-12-1.
So nothing worked for the Mets.
They had a closed-door meeting, all these things going on.
But as much credit as we have given the Mets,
over now, I guess, the last year and a half,
about, hey, they're a pitching factory.
The new brewers, like,
we saw a little chink in the armor.
Right?
Yeah.
It's basically what we're seeing.
Griffin Canning out now, Achilles, Montas comes back.
I think he's had a nice first start.
This one comes back, gives six earnie up,
David Peterson, five earned runs.
If you're behind constantly in games,
I mean, it's put so much pressure on your offense,
and you're going to start to lose.
And this is a horrible month for them.
It's been a very, very tough watch.
It all starts with the pitching staff.
I'm going through the exact same thing
with the Minnesota Twins right now,
the exact same thing,
where, you know, the offense can be good some days
And it doesn't matter, though, because they're getting put behind the eight ball
so many times by the pitching.
Trev, and again, hey, pirates, like you guys, you had a good weekend.
You knocked them around the ballpark.
Henry Davis' first four-hit game.
Brian finally hitting again.
I hope we end this year saying he had a big second half where he hit 3-11.
But the story for this season is the Mets, and a big week coming up, Milwaukee,
and the Yankees for the New York Mets coming off of this
bad ending to the month, bad month,
you know, David Peterson back-to-back bad starts.
They're starting, you know, feeling the pressure a little bit.
Will the pressure make diamonds this week?
They're going to have to go get a pitcher.
And they can.
They can.
And they can.
Although who's out there?
Sandy, like, put together a stretch of good starts.
and then he had kind of like a bad one here.
You got the guys out in Arizona who all like the aces.
I won't say aces with quotes.
Like all the aces haven't had great years up until now.
It's going to be a weird deadline.
Let's see if there's another Devers trade.
Probably not.
Like Seattle or Texas, can they trade from their starting pitching death?
Are we going Marlins at all later in the show?
I don't know if we talked about them.
Just real quick.
You can. I'm sadly not.
Otto Lopez, holy crap, what a series.
You went off.
And then they turned a great double play there.
I don't know what game that was.
Tim Tawa, ground ball, great double play turned by the Marlins to end it as they were threatening.
Oh, in the first game.
Yeah, but Otto Lopez, what a freaking series this guy had.
Yeah.
So I just want to shout out.
Make sure he got his due, man.
Marlins have won seven straight.
Over the past three weeks, they've been the best team in the national league.
Undefeated road trip for them.
Best team in the National League for three weeks.
And that's the beauty of it all.
And a Marlins fan was like, hey, you're so right about Ramirez.
He should never be behind the plate.
That's fine.
I don't play a different position.
And that's fine.
About to play your twins, Trev.
Yeah, the twins got an off day today down there in Miami.
So soak up the sun, enjoy it.
And then, yeah, I don't know.
let's head over to standout performance so we can finally give these red some love
it's time for stand out for performances
this guy stood out for treff
tref
that gets me every time um
i think
oh i'm going nick martinus who had a really nice outing goes uh eight innings pitched uh one
hit took a no hiter into the ninth then gives up a double off the wall some people were saying
uh that that ball maybe could have been caught i think it was zach cosart's tough on the inner
web saying like yes you got to die for that and you give your brother i don't i don't know about that
don't give zach cosart that voice okay you're a you're a simulation away from zach cozart
me i just think there's a lot of guys hop like getting off of their playing careers hopping on to
social media now, they don't really understand how social media works. It's relax. It's true.
That's my advice to every ballplayer that's like back after their career is done, once again,
social media and get all into the, into the game. Just relax a little. Take a deep breath.
Think about it for 60 seconds before you hit send. That's my advice to everybody. Okay. Anyway,
Stake Martiz ends up not having the no hitter, obviously, but eight innings pitched six K's in there.
and I think he's like the last Cincinnati Reds pitcher that you talk about.
Maybe it's a competition between him and Brady Singer.
But this staff has a chance to be really, really special.
And I don't know, man.
I just felt like we always talk about, you know, Andrew Abbott gets a lot of love.
We talk about Lodolo 100 Greens on.
We talk about him.
Now Chase Burns is up.
And we talk about all these guys.
But Nick Martinez has been pretty solid,
for them as well and a great outings. I wanted to shout out him and give him a little bit of love.
And hey, you know, we never know where to give managers love. And it feels like sports have
somehow gotten away from conversations. Like, how are you feeling? What do you want to go?
Nick Martinez went to the pen for two outings for the Reds after giving up 2.27 earned runs.
He comes in for two clean innings against St. Louis. He comes in for one clean inning against the
Yankees. This is his first start since two bullpen outings.
and he goes eight and gives up only one hit that Zach Cozart thought could have maybe been
caught.
Hey, Zach Cozart 14.4 career war, okay?
He's a good player.
I think he had 30 bombs.
He got paid.
Infielder, like, I don't, you know.
I'm just giving advice, dude.
I know.
I've been in the game for a long time now.
Nick Martinez.
Yeah, got off to a slow start this season, got the qualifying office.
offer. A really fun guy to watch pitch, which that sounds dumb. We're a baseball show, but like,
he's smiling and he shows emotions out there. Nice righty change. A guy that in his press
conference very much appreciative for like the opportunities that baseball has allowed him to live
with his life. There's also a ton of great plays made behind him in that game. Sure. It's America's
Reds. The second I gave up on them, everyone's all in on them. I don't mean to keep bagging on
Cozar, but there's a lot of nice plays made behind him. It wasn't like, you know. And that's what you need
sometimes. I know I've now danced around it a couple times, but there was so many fun. The Spencer
Steer 3 Homer game that pairs with this, those two in the press conference after the game was a lot
of fun. And then, yeah, Rob, I know you're going through the ringer over there, but the Will
Benson walkoff, A, friend of John Boy Media, Will Benson, like, something about his, a enormous
6-5 incredible wingspan body hits the walk-off homer, you know, down the line, game winner,
the boys go to get him at first base. I mean, look at, that, that,
go back one frame there but that is oh god that's that's what you're talking about i mean look at that
does it get any more powerful than that like if i do that that is not a powerful stance will
benson does that it is it's like uh what's the guy's name is it andy duffrain
from shashank redemption he gets out in the water out through the pipes yeah just like
Hey, I hope the Reds are coming.
I've been hoping that for years.
Spencer Steers coming.
Yeah, and they've needed one of those guys to, like,
break out and be a hitter to pair with Ellie.
I guess I just, you know,
everything that's exciting about St. Louis,
everything that's exciting about Milwaukee.
The Reds are in fourth place in the NL Central.
So I just, I need more.
Yeah, but they're close to the wild.
There it is.
There it is.
that's such a good movie oh my gosh bro um the play that when before the benson walk out spencer steer drives in ellie
um great slide by ellie and uh i forget he was catching for the the padres but he almost he almost
made an even better play going up and getting that throw and trying to apply the tag on ellie
day of the cruise but podres are i was looking up their record in june
Let me get it up real quick.
I don't think it's pretty.
I have them at 13 and 14.
13 and 14.
So the last two months, May and June,
they played to a 26 and 27 record,
just kind of middling, if you will.
Undefeated first two weeks,
figurative speech.
It's been a different tone.
But I'm interested to see what's next for them,
and they've got a very big deadline coming up.
Trev, I've gone,
um, yeah, we talk a lot of baseball.
I mean, what an example today is.
There's so many storylines.
You know, hey, these Phillies have been going toe to toe with the Mets.
And that should be the battle for the NL East this year
and the Phillies pitching and Harper
and the different things we get caught up in.
Have we talked about Trey Turner at all this year?
Crushing it.
he goes four for six with two homers
rain delay gets his hands in on a ball trev
kind of a signature tray turner home run
and then I guess pair that with another one later
and a stolen base
I think we have a little tray turner fatigue
and sometimes it goes with
the storylines of your career
and how things happen
the Captain America stuff was
Looney Tunes. I mean, Trey Turner was homering on every pitch. The WBC is cool. Everyone's all in.
Comes out, he has kind of a bad first half. The Phillies crowd stands standing ovation.
Trey Turner locked in again. He ends up putting together last year what seems like a very
Trey Turner season on the cert. I mean, that's like his signature homer. Get your hands in. Boom. Is it
getting out for Trey Turner it is? For other guys, it isn't. Trey Ternor,
has some bold on his page.
Bold for me that still matters.
He's leading the National League and hits.
I like that.
Yeah, me too.
I know you've got to be at the top of a lineup
and it's got to be a good lineup.
You got a hit.
He has 20 stolen bases this year.
He has 11 home runs.
296 batting average,
which has him placed high up in the league leaders.
And I don't know, man.
I feel like I haven't seen him gone nuts in a little bit,
and I think Trey Turner has some nuts in them.
That we could look up at the end of this season,
and Trey Turner could go 25 and 40
and have a six-war season from shortstop.
And we haven't talked like Trey Turner.
So it felt like a time to talk some Trey Turner.
One of the more fun ball players in baseball,
we love him because he's a good guy as well.
but it's Trey Turner time
We've seen it kind of been like remarkably consistent
How about these numbers?
Shockingly.
2022,
298, 343, 466
Skip 2023 when you got to a really, really bad start
ended up coming back and having a decent year
after the standing ovation.
Was that 2024 or 223 that happened?
24.
That was 24?
I think it was 23.
I'll double check.
It was right away when he signed the sign with the Phillies.
Anyways, 2022, 2022, 24 and 2025, very, very similar numbers, you know, right above an 800 OPS, playing shortstop, although a lot of people in Philadelphia will tell you, like maybe it's time to put him in center field, which would be a fun experiment.
But he's still stealing bags. He's got 20 already this year. He's a dynamic player. He's been a huge part of why the Phillies are still the top of the division.
Treve, here's some dumb baseball stuff that matters. OPS versus right.
80s this year, 803.
OPS versus lefties this year?
803. 8.03.
Yeah. We love that.
I don't care who's out there. I'm a B. Tray Turner.
I think he's got more in that, and it might be coming. He had a slow April this year.
His OPS has gone up each month.
He doesn't need more to be a great player, but I think he has more.
Because you know why, Trev, 39.3 career B-war.
he's never had a season
with an OPS plus under 100
besides his first season
with the Nationals
in 44 plate appearances
It's a hitter
Treve you know why we're the best
Because we don't know shit
And that's fine
Yeah
Trey Turner's birthday is today
Oh
Come on
Is he a Gemini like me
You know me and Trey
Just get along
So I'll see you in Atlanta dude
Gemini party, I'll be there.
What are some Gemini's signature traits?
We're supposed to be two-faced, which I don't understand.
Maybe do I, I'm not going to ask you.
Can you tell me, do I have two personalities?
A little bit, yeah.
Sometimes I could be a real dickhead.
Yeah, yeah.
You got a tough side that comes out to you sometimes that it's like, what is this?
Oh, you too, big boy.
Not really.
You get cranky when you're working too much.
Yes, that's different than being two-faced.
That's me.
That's me. I get
too, I just get cranky sometimes too.
That's me debating.
You know what causes that.
That's me debating selling it all and moving out to Fiji and just starting a new.
There's a story in 30 years of how I made some Fiji child, the best baseball player in the world.
What is this talking about?
Fiji child.
Those aren't even words.
Fijian.
What is the term?
There's got to be a better term for that.
If you're from Fiji, what do we call people from Fiji?
Pacific Islander?
I don't.
Yeah, I like that.
Me, Joe's McFly, Trey Turner hanging out at the CAA party in, I don't know, two weeks.
I'm going this year.
I'm going.
I'm in.
Well, Fijians, yeah.
Okay.
I was right.
Fijians officially known since 2010 as I, Tiki.
I, to key, are the major indigenous people of the Fiji.
I've never been to Fiji.
You and me,
Bull, sister.
Okay.
Shout out to all our listeners
from Fiji. If you're from Fiji, please comment
on the episode.
God,
Trev, we
this could have went to James Wood for his four intentional walks.
This could have went,
Brandon Walter every episode is popping up.
I'm hoping I'm going to see some of these guys coming up
on Enfuego.
Dirt Nasty's on Fuego.
That means.
I'm on fire, baby, like wake-o.
Let's start off with the series here.
Corey Seeger, he goes three for 10.
Okay, and that's pretty good, Trev.
But all three of them were homers.
Okay.
He had a homer in three straight games.
His first eight homers of the season, all solo homers, not great.
Rangers get some people on in front of this guy.
How about Cam Smith, though?
We talked about him a little bit.
Revenge series, in a way.
Four for 10, two homers, five runs driven in.
On Saturday, all three position players of the Kyle Tucker trade.
That was Cam Smith, Eastside Paredes, and Kyle Tucker.
They all homered.
So that's a lot of fun.
And Smith is also fourth among amongst rookies in F-war at 1.6 and runs driven in at 33.
So a nice start to his young career.
That's great for him.
Brian Reynolds for Pittsburgh, he goes off.
Five for 14, three doubles, two homers, six runs driven in.
Ramon Luriano of the Baltimore Orioles, won five for 10 with two doubles and a homer.
four runs driven in.
Seven runs scored, though.
I mentioned Otto Lopez going off for the week.
This guy, 11 for 26.
Mind you, this is a shortstop people.
Two doubles, two homers,
13 runs driven in.
He's got a 10-game hitting streak.
The 13 runs, I just mentioned,
it led Major League baseball,
and he's batting 480 with runners on base this month.
That's the best in all of the game.
How about B. Lau?
He continues to do it.
the raise. We know what they've been doing
offensively, especially in the month of June. He was
8 for 18 during the week.
Three homers, seven runs driven
in. Gary Sanchez making an appearance
in Fuego? What year is it? Not
sure. Times a construct,
man made. Eight for 22,
a double, two homers, eight runs driven
in for my former,
what am I calling him?
My student. My former student.
When I fixed his swing, everyone remembers that.
Speaking of Detroit,
speaking of lineup,
length. Detroit's got that as well.
Zach McKinstree,
eight for 19, a double, a triple,
a home run, four runs driven. He's batting
463 on fastballs
against left-handed pitchers this season
that's second in all of baseball. These are obscure
stats.
He's also hitting 360 when leading off an
inning this season. That's third.
Best in the American League. Okay.
Skipping this last one because he's
in my award.
Spoiler alert. And then we'll
go to the pitchers who shoved
this is for the single game.
Houston, Brandon Walter, yes, we talk about you almost every single episode.
Now, just another guy coming up for the Astros dealing.
Six innings pitch, five hits, only one earned run.
That was on Friday.
He's gone, five plus innings, two earned runs, five plus K and four of five starts this season.
Oh, just another lefty that just throws consistent quality starts.
Okay.
Lucas G. Lito, our friend, on Saturday, he went seven innings pitch, no earned runs, five
K's. He recorded his fourth consecutive start of six innings pitch. He's got a 0.72 ERA during that stretch.
Quinn Priester making plays on bunts.
Seven innings pitch, one hit, no earned runs, 11 freaking Ks. That was a career high for him.
He became the first brewer's pitcher to record 10 plus Ks in the game this season. And it's the first since Frankie Montas last year. His last 10 starts. Quinn Priestry, ready?
54.2 innings pitch.
to a 2-3-ERA, a 1.01 whip, I like ye.
Dean Kremmer with a nice start.
Mention that for Baltimore.
Seven-nings pitch, zero earned runs, three hits.
He's four-n-no with a 1-1-5 ERA
and seven starts against the race since the beginning of 2022,
so he likes facing those guys.
His second outing of seven-innings pitch shutout ball this year.
He has two of four of the Orioles outings like that this season.
in. So Dean Kramer, he's put in the work. And then Robleski, starting pitcher, or not a bolt guy,
excuse me, for the Dodgers. He goes six innings pitch, three hits, no earned run, six
Ks. That's a career high for him, those six innings pitch. And it's first scoreless outing
of longer than four in a third innings. He's allowed just four earned runs in his last 20
and a third innings pitch. So Dodgers needed someone to step up. Robleski has been that guy.
That's who's in Fuego. Those are the pitchers who shoved.
Trev, amazing stuff.
Let's bring us back down to Earth, which is my strength.
And I mean, I don't deserve the right to talk to this man in this way,
but my guy Paul Goldschmidt is struggling.
What am I going to tell him?
He doesn't want to hear it.
But he's three for 37.
So maybe I'm on an alt cast.
Let me tell you, Paul.
What did you say?
Paul, maybe get your hands through.
Hey, tell me, get a tight phase.
that always worked.
Three for 37.
Get the Zach Netto going?
I had an 0 for 20 at one point.
Hitless and 18 at bats with runners on base over the last two weeks.
That is the lowest in the AL.
Alec Thomas tracking down balls out there,
but three for 33.
That's 091.
Struggling against starters.
Yep.
582 OPS since April.
Cedric Mullins, no, no, no, no.
Four for 41, that's an 098.
And if it gets to two strikes, it's Jover.
077 on base.
That's last in Major League Baseball the last two weeks.
Jack Caggillione, this game comes for everyone.
A brutal ground-out double play to end the game
that could have swung the Dodgers series.
He's in a four for 38.
when it rains, it pours.
You're not in Gainesville anymore, Pat.
It's a different world.
Oh my gosh, bro.
It's a different world, man.
This game comes for everyone.
Whether you're 6'5 and handsome like him or 5'6 and handsome like me, 5'7 people.
It's on the driver's license.
4 for 38.
J.P. Crawford, no.
Make it stop.
10 for 52?
I don't know.
These other guys are in different world.
The extra base hits percentage this season is the lowest in the AL.
He's an on-base guy.
Whatever.
All these guys are going to be off of this soon.
We're about to turn it around as we head towards the All-Star break.
Going on the IEL.
Again, it's a little bit of a lull before a grand finale, people.
It's firework season.
They start sending out a couple.
You're like, wait, is that?
Was that? Oh, no.
Kevin ready.
You always have one moment when you're watching fireworks where it's like, is this the finale?
It's never the finale.
Never.
That's how they get you.
They're good at their job.
Don't rub your hand like that.
Placed on the IL.
Griffin Canning, we've already talked about that.
Torn Achilles trying to get off the mound.
That was brutal.
Rake Fraley.
God, shoulder for the Cincinnati Reds.
We hate that.
He's going to talk to Keith Meister.
That's a bad sign.
Dr. Keith Meister, excuse me.
Wyatt Langford.
Obliq.
Trev, do what you do.
Host your oblique webinar.
Got it.
Luis Robert Jr.
A left hamstring.
Oh, boy.
What is that going to mean?
And then a couple throwers.
Paxton Schultz, Luis Guerrero.
Okay.
Coming off the aisle.
This is the part we love.
Nathan Avaldi, bang, back twirling it for Texas forever, my friend.
Kyle Freeland, bang.
Marcus Stroman, Jonathan Cannon, Lance McCullors, yes.
Mark Vientos and Matt Veerling, the All-Tever-Plough team, is coming along.
Strong.
And, hey, I guess if you're Cincinnati, America's team, Austin Hayes just came back.
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That's what's going on with the IL.
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Trev
A couple of house cleanings
issues before we get to my award
Number one,
people Emilio Pagan is closing games out for the Reds.
I don't think we talk about that enough.
Okay.
And then you mentioned soccer.
You know.
Baseball players, what is you doing, baby?
The entire sport.
Wow.
Paul Maldor's daughter,
dating a soccer player right now.
Oh, no.
I mean...
I didn't need that.
What are we doing?
I did not need that news today.
You can't let her go to a...
soccer player?
Is he good?
I don't know.
He's a soccer player.
I respect soccer.
I do.
But baseball players, let's go.
Right.
Paul Molitor's daughter.
Okay.
Good start.
Hot start to awards.
I don't really have,
like my award is interesting
because it's kind of like a serious word.
Sometimes I get a little zany.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah.
But not today.
This is a serious word.
It's like a heart to heart.
Okay.
There are times when you get to the big leagues,
you mentioned Jack Caglione.
And someone mentioned we don't say his name, right?
Yes, we do.
That's how you say his name.
Jack Caglione.
Right.
Sometimes Jake puts a little Italian on it.
He calls him Caglione.
Sorry.
That's wrong.
Anyways, there comes a time in your big league career
that you get faced with certain things.
Struggles mostly early on,
and you have to overcome them,
adjustments do all these things and most of the time it's going to be an up and down scenario when you
start off in this league you might have initial success you'll make adjustments you got to figure it out
then they make adjustment yeah it's like it's a back and forth thing and it's there there's a couple
crucial times where you have to establish yourself as a big leaguer a starting big leaguer
and you kind of have to realize when that moment is.
And I was back in Minnesota,
the great state,
Twins territory,
and,
you know,
there was a rain delay in the series,
and I'm,
I had the fam there,
so I'm kind of like hanging with the fam.
It's like a three-hour rain delay,
or maybe it's even more than that.
So I'm kind of like walking through this area of the stadium,
kind of getting some food.
And when that happens,
you know,
I got a little juice in Minnesota.
Oh, yeah.
about it. And, you know, people come up and talk to me and it's, it's great. I love interacting
with all them. Minnesotans are just some of the nicest people. But the one thing that always
gets talked about, like always, is my June of 2012. It's like my best, my best baseball I ever
play, my best, you know, hitting. And it's, it's where I really firmly established myself
as a big league.
I got put into the third base slot,
started hitting some homers.
My numbers in June of 2012,
okay?
26 games started.
I'd seven doubles,
11 homers,
21 runs driven in,
327 batting average 391 on base,
735 slug for the 1.126.
Prior to that, Jake,
I hadn't really hit that way.
Like in the big leagues,
I just was what it was.
and then boom i have this month i'm just hitting homer after homer and i'm like okay like i felt
finally like i belonged now luke hochever ended up blowing my thumb up i still have nerve damage
if i touch my thumb right here it still tingles to this day so i go i miss games in the middle
of july never the same truly never the same um but i had that june to show people that i could be
a starter at the big leagues in the big league level you know who's having that in June we talk
about him quite often now it's Joe Adele numbers are eerily similar 26 games started 11 homers
19 runs driven in he's also one dotting it a 1.038 this is the time Joe Adele this is the time
to establish yourself as a big league starter and make a career off of
of it like I did literally made a career off that one month. I got the starting job. You know what? Yeah.
Did I have some years after that where I kind of hunkered down? Yes, but that's where it all started.
And I'm just, I'm telling Joe, now is not the time to like rest. Don't say damn, like, I'm here and this is it.
This is what I'm going to be for the rest of my career. This is where the work finally starts, where you have to now take this and go.
establish yourself as a starter
start your career right now
I just looked at the numbers
because I knew he hit the 11th homer in June
and I remember that's what I hit too
very similar
and we might be seeing a guy
and it's a beautiful thing
after years of struggling at the big level
finally establish himself
and find some consistency
he had a nice May
an 836 OPS in May
you know hit five homers
but this month of June
has been electric for him
and if you've been watching, you understand,
we might be seeing a guy cement himself at the big level.
And I'm happy because he's been so up and down in his career,
top prospect to kind of a guy that just banished to the minor leagues.
He's been up and down.
It's time to go now, Joe Adele.
I don't know.
This is my heart to heart for Joe.
Don't stop now.
Keep working.
I love it.
Again, we're a couple late innings away from this being an episode
where we talked about the Halos a lot.
instead they end up losing two out of three.
Joe Adele, four straight games with two hits.
Hello.
And Trev, like, it's interesting because Joe Adele ended up hitting 20 homers last year,
but that's the only stat on the page that you really like.
He's at 18 through 76 games.
So it's a different kind of power.
And I'm excited because this is a theory that you've brought up, Trev,
that, you know, I sneakie tried to get my jab in it,
analytics at the top of the show and you're like, no, Jake, analytics likes defense too.
And you're right.
Know it's something that they'll never measure, Trev.
The scoreboard I test.
Joe Adele has never walked up to the plate, looked at his name and his stats on the scoreboard,
and said, that's good.
Yeah, for sure.
Never.
I think for the first time he can.
243, 316, but an 814 OPS.
It's the first time that Joe Adele, who's still 26, has walked up to the plate,
saw Adele, middle of the lineup, 816 OPS, 18 homers, it's June.
That matters, that matters, as you've depicted from the player front
and how you feel about yourself.
But I'm super excited for his second half and this whole Angel second half
without Ron Washington, which stinks.
Yeah, shout out Ron.
But we're happy for Joe Adele.
This could be the start.
Do you know this first name is Jordan?
No.
Didn't know that either.
I thought I thought it was Joe with no E.
But Joe is short for Jordan.
Let's figure out the defensive side a little bit
so we can start cooking the war numbers.
Same.
Hey, I figure out a new position too.
I'm telling you, it's time to go now.
I know.
You too, maybe later on late.
if you can host a successful baseball show as well.
I think he,
I think he's graded out okay and right this year,
but not in left.
I don't know what that's about.
He's doing it at the perfect time.
He's like it's arbitration time.
Right.
Right.
Now's the time to do it.
Love that, Trev.
Man, I'm going to hit the people with a weird one to end it.
I'm going to go out of the box award a little bit.
And again,
Dodger fans, again, you guys should be probably getting talked about more and more on each episode,
two out of three against the Royals. I don't know.
Unfortunately, he didn't move the Neal.
There is a lot of, there's a lot of ball this episode.
The Diamondbacks could be a full 60-minute conversation themselves as we sneak up on the trade deadline.
I'm going almost completely off the board.
Trev, we try to think of rules and different things that can help the game.
I've fallen into one of my weirder ones
that I'm going to need you to cook on.
I'm going to need all the talking baseball fans
to marinate on this one,
because I don't have it right.
I guarantee you I don't.
Baseball is entertainment.
We like being entertained by the game.
I love sport and competing.
We also need entertainment.
Look at what the Savannah bananas are doing right now.
That, you know, baseball doesn't need to do that.
But baseball is about entertainment.
And the great thing about baseball is it is entertainment.
Trev, I'm going to read you a category.
I'm going to read you the lead leaguers in this one category,
and you tell me if you like these guys.
So these are the top seven in the league in this category.
It's Aaron Judge, Cal Raleigh, Shohei Otani, James Wood, Kyle Tucker,
Jose Ramirez, and Rafael Devers.
OPS.
Intentional walks.
Okay.
This is the craziest thing I've daydreamed.
And again, we have our warehouse where we get to do a lot of weird stuff
and make up rules and try things.
And again, go check out the ball and play finale was last night.
Trevor Plouf was in it.
A little teaser.
Trev, I want to get rid of the intentional walk.
And I know, like, people don't really care.
Like, I've tweeted out some stuff before.
And they're like, oh, he's been in baseball.
And it's like, well, you're mean and you have a fake identity online.
Like, get away from me.
me. I don't know. The only thing I've daydreamed is that you can't do intentional walks. And then
people say, okay, well, they'll just throw four straight balls, like kind of what we used to do.
If there was a rule that, like, if you threw four straight balls, you got a run around first
and the batter could stay if they wanted, again, I'm workshopping this. Like if, so if the pitcher
throws four non-competitive pitches, the batter can choose if they could stay up. Something
like that. I don't have it figured out.
But that way, think about this. If Aaron Judge
is up, or Cal Raleigh, or
any of the best hitters of the game I just
mentioned, who kids are going to the games
to see that creates the future of baseball.
James Wood got intentionally walked four
straight times.
That stinks.
Like, at its core, that stinks.
I know you say, like, you know, the internet will be like,
well, the guy on decks got, big butter. Okay, don't care.
I want to see James Wood
hit. So I don't know. I don't know the solution. I'm opening up to the people in the board.
For me, if there was something, because like, okay, say it's a 3-0 pitch to Aaron Judge,
that pitch just get a lot more exciting. Because then if the pitcher does want to walk them,
they could still throw one strike and then walk them. Like, I'm just, I'm trying to think of
creative solutions to get what is an unexciting play out of the game. The best hitters in our game,
are getting the bat taken out of their hand
at an important moment of the game.
So I'm sorry.
I realize it's a little weird.
Oh, Jake's moving to Fiji.
I get it.
But there's something here.
Because if I continue to go down this list,
it's Bobby Witt, it's Mike Trout, it's Vlad, it's L.
Like, it's all the best players in baseball,
just getting walked to first base.
I get it.
I understand what you're saying.
Like, people come to see these guys play.
For the most part, you're coming to see the stars,
of the game, you know, you can say, well, baseball is not a star sport. It's a team sport. I understand. I mean, I know where you're coming from. I don't have a solution for you. Especially not off the top of my head. I know we've kind of been dancing around this a little bit. And maybe I liken it to, I don't know, you have a star receiver and you're just putting two guys on them. Just, what's that called? Like, cover your zone cover. I don't know. Double cover. Double coverage. Double coverage. Yeah. But it leaves somebody.
else open and that's kind of like the guy behind you type situation.
I don't know.
It's interesting.
I also would like to see them get challenged.
Yes.
I don't know what the solution is.
I have no idea.
No idea.
All of the best players in the game are getting pointed to first base and then a lesser
player is coming.
We had this discussion with guys getting thrown out and I was like, how do we, like, can we
have like some sort of penalty before they get thrown out so we can see these guys play
and people were like.
Yellow card.
The internet was not happy with that one.
People are scared of change.
And I just think it would be,
we get so used to rule so quickly that you'd be surprised.
Again, I'm not saying I'm the one with the solution,
but like, I would have liked to see an 18 more Aaron Judge at Bats this year.
I would have liked to see 10 more Cal Rale at Bats.
I would have like to see 10 more Shohay at Bats.
I would have like to see James Wood get a chance to swing it this weekend.
So I don't I don't yeah I mean I'm I'm with you pop I get it I'm right I don't I don't have
It's why it's the same thing I don't want to have position players pitching because I feel like if you're an offense and you tax
You need to tax the pitching stuff that's the whole point God we just care about the game
I care about the game we want to see the best playing that's all it is I don't know what to do about that
I mean you stump me I don't know how do you figure that out I don't I don't know I like that there's no more
having to throw the intentional locks.
I like the four.
Right.
It's sped up the game, but I don't know.
I don't know, people.
Maybe there's no solution,
and maybe that's life sometimes.
But I just like to get the wheel spinning.
And I hope we did that for you,
because we've got a big episode coming up on Wednesday.
I know Bobby's been cooking.
Episode 1,000.
Oh, my God.
A G note, Trev.
Yeah.
Jake sucks.
What are we going to do?
Naked.
Naked up.
I'm thinking naked up.
Bob says he's got some stuff, and he kind of gave me the...
Me, James Loney, Mike Moustakis, Mike Belfiori, all playing golf today.
I knew it.
I'll shoot my 86 and call it a day.
Alibu Mike 85.
