Talkin' Baseball (MLB Podcast) - Mariners Steal Game 1 of ALCS! | 1046
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Hello and welcome to Talking Baseball.
The Mariners look lifeless until they weren't.
They steal game one in Toronto.
Let's talk about it.
Let's talk ball.
Matt Brash.
Any Toronto hit are swinging very early.
A little too juiced up.
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I am Jake Storelli.
That is Trevor Ploof.
Rob Chiracos here, Dalton from the clouds.
And speaking from the clouds,
the Seattle Mariners, who I think 16 in a row went down at one point,
Kevin Gossman cruising, the Toronto crowd.
The Seattle Mariners
Tie it up, take the lead,
And then take game one,
a 3-1 final to get home field back
From the Blue Jays. Trevor, how are you?
I'm doing great, Jake. Thanks for asking, my man.
You're a Seattle fan today?
So for the streams, we like to root in one direction.
We don't like having people fighting on the stream.
so it's kind of like pick a team.
And I don't know, Toronto,
ALE's coming off a beating the Yanks.
Both teams have good stories.
I've said the way Toronto plays baseball is amazing.
Seattle has never gone dancing.
So like, it was a little tricky
and this shirt from our merch store is sick.
So I did go Seattle.
Both great merch options,
like the colors, the jerseys, everything is great.
I'm happy that you're rooting for Seattle.
You know I'm Toronto, Trev.
Yeah.
I don't really.
really have a rooting interest. I do like good ball. And today, I don't know if we really saw
a good ball. That's, that's the interesting thing. Maybe we did. Maybe we saw good pitching.
And we saw some clutch A-Bs, obviously my guy Jorge and, and Cal doing his thing. But that
wasn't interesting game. I was just trying to look up. And we're going to get into the game.
I know you're going to burn these things. So when you burn, I'm going to continue my research.
How many at-bats went over four pitches for the Blue Jays? It's right now, after the Santan
dare single. That's what I was going to start it, where Victor Robles had the, like his chart in his mouth.
Yeah. How about that? Which I called Jimmy right away at FaceTime. I said, Jimmy, you won't believe what just happened. Are you watching the game? Keep paper out of baseball, Jimmy. He couldn't believe it. Yeah. So I'm on two right now. I'm already into like the seventh inning. So these guys were swinging early. They were swinging off and they were getting out all the time. But are you burned?
I'll let your analytics. Yeah, I'm going to freestyle a little bit. We just got done streaming, but I got some buzzwords. And yeah, that play was wild. And that was Toronto's last hit when it looked. He couldn't see the ball because he's looking down at a piece of paper in his mouth. Okay, that is what's happening right now. Put a piece of paper in your mouth and look down. You won't see below you. What are we doing? Get paper out of baseball, huh? That's a tough.
I have a piece of here.
I can't see.
Almost every profession, if you have a piece of paper in your mouth, it makes it harder to perform.
Sorry to go stats on you early.
You did.
You crushed it right there.
Yeah, I'll let you research that.
And yeah, dude, both sides.
I mean, Bryce Miller, 76 pitches through six innings.
Gossman 76 through 5.2.
Yeah, there's a weird hitters are trying to not strike out.
So they're trying to attack early, but they're not working.
count. I don't know. I'll do a quick, I'll do a mini burn of it and then we'll get into some of the
action. OVOXO as we head to the Great North is the Toronto Blue Jays. Don't say that second T.
They host the Seattle Mariners as one of these teams will be going to their first World Series
in 30 years. The Vanilla Gorilla Bryce Miller. How will he hold up against this Jay's lineup with
Kevin Gossman on the bump for the Jays.
And it's fall, but it's feeling like spring.
A springer-dinger.
First pitch, home run.
They're going crazy in Canada.
One nothing, but it looked like there was a little blood in the water,
but Bryce Miller recovers from that to keep it that way
until the sixth inning, and Cal gets a rally going.
Gossman goes back to the splitter, and now he's got a split.
It's a one-one game.
Trevor bought this man his first MLB suit.
Jorge Polanco can't spell clutch without Jorge.
Two to one in the sixth, and then the insurance run in the eighth.
Polanco again, it's three to one and the Mariners.
After Bryce looked shaky early, they shut it down.
Six innings one-earned run from Miller.
Spire, Brash, and Munoz,
no hits, no walks.
The Mariners take game one, three to one final.
Standings of this series, Seattle Mariners 1 and O and 1.
And the Blue Jays, O and 1.
Nice burn, Jackie.
Thanks, Trev.
Thanks, man.
Where do we go?
I feel like we go to the top with this one.
Yeah, I mean, look, I think that two really good starts there,
Bryce Miller really answering the bell.
Clearly, you know, everyone knows, 15 inning game.
even though the bullpen didn't get too beat up in that game because a couple starters took some
innings there who was a Gilbert and Castillo came in and ate some innings but still you know
a long game a long flight a little bit of partying you come into Toronto I don't know like you
expect the Mariners to be tired a little bit but maybe like I was thinking this during the game
if it's all happened so fast for the Mariners like there's no time to be nervous like you're
just going in and playing another base.
baseball game like the blue jes have had some time to stew on this like hey we're we're one
series away from the world series that the last game they played was one was a wednesday yeah
like that's that to me builds up and you and you're okay like i'm excited i'm excited i'm excited
and that just continues to build the mariners have had no chance to even think about where they
are at they're going to sleep really good tonight i know they got another game tomorrow but like
i think that kind of played into this game a little bit uh well they just came in and did
the damn thing. Bryce Miller,
freak, he looked awesome. And especially
to come back after that first inning,
um,
you know,
I was,
I was,
I was,
uh,
keeping track of all these things here on my sheet and that is not exactly
what I wanted to say.
Wrong guy. Anyways, you get down one nothing after the George
Springer Homer,
uh,
you get,
uh,
Lucas has a 12 pitch AB against you.
Yeah.
Uh,
which is another big part of this game where,
you know,
fouls of off his knee has to come out straw replaces him he's a big left-handed bat for them
against this heavily right-handed mariners team so we'll see what happens with him if he's
going to be available to play tomorrow but to be able to settle in after that and then just
dominate i think you know cow cow came out had a mountain visit with him but most of this is on
bryce to go out there and just find a way to settle in and he did that yeah
I mean, we were doing debates of how long is he for this game.
Because, you know, we're on that weird postseason pitching schedule
when it's kind of like, hey, who's best available right now for Seattle
with the way their postseason is lined up.
And yeah, man, I mean, hey, you know, Vladdy put a charge into that ball
in the first inning.
And it just felt, you know, Toronto's going crazy.
The last time we saw them, they were bullying the Yankees,
especially in the Rogers Center.
A lot of good swings on it.
And yeah, there's, I think if you've watched enough,
baseball games, you know there's that weird feeling in baseball where it's like, wait, it's won
nothing?
Like our crowd is kind of, you know, the cheers went from raucous in the first to, you know,
they're kind of getting a little less loud.
And okay, here comes a guy to the plate who has 61 home runs on the season.
And that's, I know Schneider's talking about it right now that they were even thinking
of walking them in that spot.
But, you know, Gossman 5.2, he gets two strikes on him.
Raleigh fouls off a splitter.
And yeah, when you're doing the pitching game at home,
it's like, well, you either throw another splitter
and put it in the dirt and see if he chases it again,
or do you go with the high fastball.
He goes back to the splitter.
It's one of those splitters that hangs up just a little bit.
Cal Raleigh has some of the best numbers on splitters this year
that as we're doing in these postseason games,
zooming in on moments,
it's a pitch that I'm sure Gossman regrets
and that Toronto's questioning.
Yeah, I mean,
if you can, go back to that slow-mo bit there, Robbie.
That is a beautiful pure swing by Cal.
You know, to go down and get this, you see it goes down into his legs,
the barrel stays through, the wrist don't turn over until his swing is done, essentially.
That is a thing of beauty.
And that's why he's able to hit splitters because he can use his legs,
go down and get him.
And his bat path kind of runs right there.
That was, it was awesome for him because he caught all 15 innings.
Like, how cool is that?
And then flying in, like this guy, like he is durable as can be.
And then showing up in that moment.
And you're right.
Like after the first, because there was the Homer by Springer, you know, ambush, boom.
And then you get two walks in the inning.
And Vladdy hits that ball hard.
And you feel like there should be more damage done.
But because they're able to hold them to one, I mean, that changes everything.
All it takes is one swing by cow.
And you get a brand new ball game.
And then they find themselves working.
and the top of the six before that Cal Homer I was tracking this because I have my notes here
it's 22 batters in a row both sides combined 22 batters in a row sat down not a freaking
base runner man it was going quick it was going quick and Cal you know does that um and then
it kind of starts to unravel that's how it happens man you like get somebody on the board
Julio walks Luke little comes in wild pitch gets Julio the second and then our guy
Jorge, man. Just good at bat after good at bat, you know, both sides of the plate. That's why he's,
you know, it's why that's why he's a great guy to have on your team. You know, platoons don't matter
with him. He's going to be able to have his matchup when he needs it. And he's, you know,
not trying to hit homers. He's just putting good swings on balls. And, I mean, timely hitting is
obviously so paramount in the playoffs. And he's been, he's been the face of timely hitting.
Yeah, I think Dahlin had a stat on here that he's the most clutch batter in baseball this year via fan graphs amongst 145 qualified batters.
So, you know, hey, we're interpreting new stats every year, but not a bad thing to have.
And it's paying off this postseason so far as he has the monster games against Scoobel.
I mean, clutching the extra inning game and clutch now.
That, yeah, and I, you know, Schneider turned him around for that at bat.
which, again, the skill of being a switch hitter that there's not a lot of,
like there's less switch hitters now, I think,
because hitting has become more difficult.
It had a nice late night 420 conversation with Cole Tucker about switch hitting in baseball now.
But it's just like, dude, I think it's the degree of difficulty has been elevated from both sides
that just less guys even go for it.
So I don't know.
That's a little bit of a late night theory, but I'll let everyone digest that.
And then, yeah, man, like you said, the retired batters in a row is crazy,
but also just the pitch counts, man, from the third inning through the fifth inning,
Gossman or Bryce Miller, neither of them threw more than 11 pitches to get through an inning.
I mean, what is that?
Everyone was swinging.
They were throwing strikes, though.
When guys are filling the zone up, it forces you to swing.
You don't want to go down.
You don't want to get to O2.
But also, like, if you know guys are in,
the zone yeah like hey i'm gonna go get it uh 20 Toronto A Bs with four pitches or less after
Santander single in the second i had dalton kind of do that for me that's that's quick outs
quick A B so not only are you obviously in the zone you're keeping your defense on their toes as
well like it just I don't know like if you're wanting to have a quality offensive game like you've
you got to work some counts you got to make the pitchers work you got you know like foul some pitches
off, whatever it may be, and that just wasn't the case.
A lot of balls put in the play, not a lot of battling A-Bs after that 12-pitched
Lucas abat.
So something that Toronto is going to have to figure out.
I mean, clearly, like, the offense just didn't show up today, and, you know, it could happen
for a plethora of reasons, and I feel like tonight was a little bit of maybe too, too aggressive.
And then Seattle, I think, was very aggressive on the base pass.
You saw Randy, steal second, steal third.
You saw Julio get a bag.
I think that's going to be something that they look to do in this series as well.
But I don't know, like it's, they came to play.
They didn't, it didn't seem like they were phased whatsoever by the start of the LCS.
Do you think the hitters were feeling it a little bit, just like big game?
Like these two teams, you know, a lot of the conversation is that these two teams haven't been in this spotlight a lot that.
I don't know, game one is just going through the, like I didn't feel that in live time.
it didn't feel like the abats were bad.
But when you go back and you look at all this,
it's kind of like, I don't know.
It could be anything.
It could be these are two very talented pitchers.
Like if we talk about Gossmann and Bryce Miller before the season,
we'd say, yeah, these are two guys that can shove on any given day.
But I don't know.
Just looking back at the box score, I'm second guessing myself.
I don't think that the game got too big.
I feel like the Blue Jays, that Yankee series was a huge series for them,
and they were fine there.
don't think that's the issue here i think you have to tip your cap to the guys that came in
brys miller was great uh spire comes in one two three inning randy helps him out in the outfield
nice play there at the end of the inning brash has a one two three inning munoz how many
pitches that he throw in the in the ninth yeah seven uh munios through eight seven strikes so you know
they're they're filling the zone uh making you make decisions and yeah i mean i think i think that's it
Look, if you're Toronto, it sucks.
You pitched well, too.
You give three runs, man.
The stolen bases, you got to take a look at that
because Randy was still third base standing up,
which was not great for you.
But I think you tip your cap to the pitching and say,
we'll come back out tomorrow.
We know how good of an offensive team we can be.
So we'll get back with him tomorrow.
Yeah, Randy, Randy showing up in the postseason.
His last series and the stats coming in were pretty ugly,
and he doesn't have the hit today, but those two steals were pretty electric
and changed the tone a little bit.
And then, yeah, Trev, I've looked at a lot of box scores throughout the season
and look at the pitching box scores.
I have never seen three relievers come in for the final three innings,
eight pitches, eight pitches, eight pitches.
I've never seen that.
That's insane.
And I guess, credit to the Mariners and,
it's a little bit the other side of this Blue Jay's approach of putting it in play
that sometimes you're going to have innings like that.
It just happened to be every inning except the first.
When did Seattle fly in?
Did they fly in after the game on Friday night?
There's no way.
I believe so.
And if I remember correctly,
I think they got delayed.
I think people were telling us there was some sort of Seattle flight story coming in
that was an ideal travel.
I can get my...
I want to know because J.P.
offer put out a video of him singing with this band to like, you know, I don't know who they are,
but they're one of those bands, you know, have a good time to, if you know what I mean,
you know, on the moon.
I didn't know if he was like celebrating after that game.
Then they left Saturday morning.
I'm just curious about that.
Somebody asked me that today.
They said, what do you think Seattle deal with their travel?
I said, in my mind, they left Saturday at like 10 a.m.
And then just flew to Toronto.
Mariners delayed getting to Toronto after Marathon ALDS game.
Mariners, two charter planes, one for the players,
big league staff and front office,
another for the families and remaining staff.
How are they delayed?
Delayed a couple hours getting out of Seattle,
Seattle on Saturday.
Okay, yeah.
The plane with the families and staff actually left
before the plane with the players.
Mariners wouldn't provide details about the delays
scheduled to arrive in Toronto until 8 p.m. Eastern.
So they didn't even go to the yard yesterday.
Interesting.
Team wasn't planning to have a regular workout on Saturday evening.
Yeah.
Quick turnaround, said Dan Wilson.
Nice.
It's a little off day, okay.
Beautiful thing.
The delay was probably for the best.
Let's see what else we had here.
We had Aeohenio's double off the top of the wall,
that that just missed being a homer off your guy, Louis Varland.
Homer in 15 out of 30 stadiums, not the Roger Center on this day.
That was an eight-pitch of bat, nice a bat by him.
He worked it, got to pitch out over the play to get handled.
He hasn't really shown up.
I mean, it's...
No, and yeah, I don't know.
We're developing postseason theories in live times,
just where the pitching is at in baseball now that, yeah,
I mean, Eugenio Suarez's approach feels really hard for some of these postseason pitchers.
to square any of them up as impossible, that, you know,
we got a couple comments last night that, you know,
all this commentary we give about contact hitting that in the Brewers Cubs game
it came down to four solo shots.
And yeah, there's an acknowledgment in a tip of the hat.
I would also tell you the first two homers in that game weren't like Homer A-swings.
Like they were Contreras and Suzuki were tight, get the barrel to it compact.
And this is what used to happen.
used to try to swing, hit the ball hard, and sometimes you hit homers.
Now, like, Eugenio Suarez is trying to hit a home run and that's it.
But I don't know.
There's an evolving theory there.
I don't know where to land the play.
Okay.
Yeah, I mean, that's not what really either of these teams do, or they shouldn't at least.
Maybe a few guys.
Gino, stay with your approach.
What is going to switch?
All of a sudden?
No, he's not going to do that.
I feel like Cal has good at bats, but he also is trying to put balls in the seats.
Yeah, Seattle's funny.
I mean, they got a lot of guys that swing in the batting helmet comes off.
I mean, Naylor had one of the biggest swings I think I've ever seen in my life.
Yeah, but I don't consider him a guy that's swinging out of his shoes all the time.
I think he picks his spots where he's going to take a hack.
And then also, like, he'll choke up and have some sort of a contact-oriented swing.
I agree.
I think Seattle is a mix of they get their A-s swings.
and then depending the counter the situation, they change their approach.
Toronto is, you know, the contact is clear.
And again, I think today, if a couple balls fall and it leads to chaos
and Miller has to go from the stretch, that's what's been working from them.
Didn't have to happen for a lot of the game.
He hands the ball after six innings to their good bullpen after a day or travel day of rest.
And that's kind of all she wrote in this.
what else needs to be talked about
I know you mentioned
Lucas who got hurt
but that is that is significant man
he bats second in their line of
versus righties
yeah great story with him too
but yeah I mean again we talk about this
Mariners team not having
you know really lefties
to go to Spire came in today
but he's kind of been shaky throughout the postseason
so you want to stack lefties
against these guys
and you know he's been a big part of the line
So that's obviously a developing story.
And I haven't heard anything, but like it looked like it hurt.
He went out and he came back in.
He played a little bit and then how did he be taken out.
So that's usually a good sign that you can go back out there and have some effort there.
There's nothing like crazy.
But probably a pain tolerance thing, I would assume.
And you know what, man?
I think he's going to be able to tolerate the pain.
Yeah.
Interesting to see like where the swelling, like it was his knee.
So I don't know.
That can very much affect how you move.
Yeah, back knee too, right?
It looked like the top of the kneecap.
Yeah, man, it was, you know, it's crazy that probably coming off the bat at 100.
Here it is, we have it on the YouTube.
Oh, front knee.
Yeah.
This is the...
Oh.
So that hurts like a mother, and depending what it hit, I don't know.
and who knows, is that going to be better in one day?
Does that get worse after two days?
Like, I don't know.
Tough because he's been awesome for them.
And we saw the second at bat of the game, Springer homers,
and this guy's up there for what feels like 20 minutes.
Part of that is he followed it off his knee.
But yeah, that's definitely a storyline to watch going forward.
Some other informative things about this.
Gossmann retired 16 in a row at one point that ties into the
how this game felt so Blue Jays for a little bit until the script got flipped.
Springer's the oldest player to hit a lead off Homer and the CS.
How do you like that?
And then I think I saw one more, I guess just Jorge Polanco and how crazy that is.
And the Mariners pitching, I mean, we technically said it with everything we've done.
They only allowed two hits after allowing a hit on the first hit.
So just an insane pitching.
and that's, you know, basic Jake came out when we were previewing this,
that this is a little bit pitching versus hitting,
and that's way too zoomed out.
But tonight, the pitching clearly won for Seattle.
Yep.
We got Logan Gilbert, Dalton,
said it will be pitching for the Mariners tomorrow against you savage.
So a nice little pitching matchup there as well.
And maybe this will come down,
and we won't see a ton of offense in this series.
Yeah, I don't.
I just don't know, man.
A lot of the guys coming out of the bullpen for both teams have,
have electric stuff that maybe it's just going to have to be later in the series.
Second look at a starter, second look at it, second or third look at a reliever.
And I don't know, has Enosaris done the splitter as the new sexy pitch article?
Because everyone throws a nasty splitter.
And like tomorrow, you savage and Gilbert.
Yeah.
I think he did actually at the beginning of the,
Yeah, talked about the splitter being back.
Splitter and the sinker and, you know,
I think the new thing in pitching is everyone has four fastballs.
Cutter, four seamer, sinker,
and then some other weird one they made up on their own.
Dude, absolute comedy.
October 10th, two days ago, Enosaris,
identifying what makes Blue J. Starved,
identifying what makes Blue J. Starvedger's Splitter so savage.
So again, that's not
He's on it.
He's on.
That's not every pitcher in this series,
but if you're looking to get your education up,
go read that for me.
You know, anything else you're looking for individual player?
I know this isn't how baseball works
and this starts to get Chris Rosie and we don't like that.
That's rude.
It's just tough to answer.
It's tough to answer.
If Lucas goes on the IL,
who's,
do we get any Blue Jays?
fans in the chat who like who would who would be the guy i think joey low perfido yeah low perfido's a
guy they were talking about possibly making did he not make the roster yeah he's he's listed as an
active where tie france and boba shed are listed as hurt um that i would think that would be the move uh you
again i guess you're he not on the actual roster yet correct correct okay um you probably
would be the guy so you'd you'd think if he can't
can't go and then like what what stages of go does he have because you know springers listed as
the dh but he can so i don't know like if he can dh that's that's going to be the interesting
storyline to watch with them uh and then yeah i just how do the juices of baseball get going for
seattle like does cow raleigh become the bad man in this series if he turns on another one
tomorrow if logan gilbert goes six shut you know do do the blue jat bat start feeling tight
because yeah
I mean there you know
a lot of baseball teams
the mission is to go get one
of the first two games
they got game one that
yeah they're
living a little loose and free right now
same with
same with J.P. Crawford's music
is that what you were saying?
It might still be on his Instagram
he was like singing
like literally with the mic
and this band was playing behind him
I thought it was like a victory party
and that's pretty cool like that was fun
Maybe that was a couple nights ago.
I don't know.
So I shouldn't go to J.P. Crawford's Insta right now?
You should.
You should always go to J.P. Crawford.
Yeah.
Good follows for J.P. Crawford.
All right.
I mean, hey, one game and one game tomorrow.
Unless you got anything else, Coach,
I think it's time to tell the people we love them.
I do love all the people.
You know what?
Let me give one quick shout out.
First base umpire for my youth team today.
He goes, hey, man.
I can't believe last game.
I didn't recognize you.
We watch you all the time.
And he said something about you.
He goes, your friend Jake, his reaction to the last play in the Phillies Dodgers game,
that was perfect.
And I was like, fuck Jake.
He's like, yeah, you're right.
Fuck Jake.
Thank you, everyone for tuning in.
Even the nice first base hump.
He didn't say that.
But we both thought it.
Our QSQ rating with umps and um
Jake sucks
Stadium employees I think is pretty high
If you're working a if you're working a baseball gig
Know that know that we love you
Because that's how it gets done
Grounds crew
Oh we're huge with grounds crew
We got to put in a grounds crew day
That'll be a talking baseball side video one day
I dragged the field today I am a ground screw guy
Son of a pool man
