Talkin' Baseball (MLB Podcast) - Mets Beat Dodgers & Yankees Win Rollercoaster Game | 912

Episode Date: October 19, 2024

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Hello and welcome to talking baseball. New York, New York. The Mets survived to play another day, and the Yankees win another. I don't even know, man. Let's talk, ball. I feel like I've been beat up. Do you know what I am?

Today on Omo. Big Christmas. Uh-huh. I was Josh Naylor. Oh. Hello and welcome to talking baseball, presenting you by Seek, the official ticket marketplace of Major League Baseball.

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West Coast at T-Nasty 6-9-420. BBD producing his buns off. Same username. Trev, the blowout series kind of continues to live up to its name and the Yanks guards put us personally

through a ringer. Shout out to the kid Mero who came through and streamed with us tonight. It's always interesting when you're going to lock yourself in a room for four hours and kind of feel pain through sports. And he was awesome. And the Guardian's Yankees series, the past two nights, and I feel I can say this, people know I'm a Yankees fan, but incredible baseball. And I don't know, there will be off-season times when we can talk about, like,

what do we need to do with bullpens? Because we got guys pitching with, like, their opposite arm at this point. Rev, how are you doing it? That was a lot. That was a big word-salve right there. It's a lot. First of all, don't ever give out my only fan's username again. Sorry. That's my bad. That's private and you know that.

Yes, look, this is, I've really enjoyed these playoffs. You know that. I think we've had some great games, some really, really special moments. You know, we've been talking about this. Dodgers Met series as, you know, kind of being the blowout series. but I really feel like it's like saving up for something big.

I hope it is at least. But yes, the Yanks Guardian series has been something, man. It's been big homers. It's been kind of, there's some sloppy play,

some sloppy toppy going on there. And we are seeing the, the overuse of bullpen arms, essentially. That's what it kind of looks like to me. But we'll get into all of it

pop on the, excited to hear you burn these games. I'm excited to yuck some ball with you. And I do wonder, Jake, I do wonder sometimes if we didn't talk ball and we just did something else, would people listen. I think some people do tune in.

Don't really care about the ball. They just want to hear us share our thoughts. But I could be totally wrong about that. I hate to say bye right now, but the bi-annual Wake and Jake episode, you know, you hop on for it. The people go nuts for it. So, yeah, I mean, that's still sports and some ball.

But, hey, I don't even know where we're at right now. Me and Trevor, like, flirting with each other. I'm sorry, it's fucking late. We're fucking tired. I'm sorry to cuss twice in front of your children if they're listening. But it's literally, it's the CS. We've got two teams. We've been streaming games every day.

I'm sitting there in front of my TV. Life is going on around me. Right. I'm dialed in with a couple of highlighters and my kids art paper. I don't know what I'm doing with my life except yuck and ball with the peeps. We now have two teams on the brink of elimination.

Let's get, it's always been a cron pod for multiple reasons. Let's start off in flushings. The Dodgers trying to eliminate the New York Mets. Met season on the line with early settler name David Peterson on the bump, while the Dodgers would go back. Jack, do it again as they'd try to Steely Dan one more win to get back to the World Series. A polar plunge in the first, Alonzo. Three run, Homer. Boy, did the Mets need that.

And how about another four in the third? It's a Marte Parte. Francisco, that's fun to say. Alvarez Anlindor. Let's go Brandon as Nimmo gets one. Two more in the fourth. Winker and McNeil. It's 10 to 2

Metropolitan's, but what's dead can never die. Andy Bob Seeger tries to turn the page. I know it's Pa has two homer day for the Kid in a quick game of mooky cookie, but it's not over yet, but it is.

Met Survive 12 to 6. Game 6 Sunday in L.A. I don't know. over the place. Boogie cookies. Crazy.

Take me outside by the shed. Just two quick ones. You dropped the Let's Go Brandon? I can't. I don't know, man. You can't get political here. I don't even, is it political? I have no fucking, I don't even know.

I don't know. I kind of don't even know what side that joke lands on. I don't know. I just watch baseball and sweat. All we freaking do is watch ball. I told you before the show, man. Like, I'm keeping these notes so I can come talk about this game.

And I'm like, you know, the intricacies of what's happening in the top of the first. Why didn't Shohay make a run for it on the ground ball to Francisco Indoor? And why were the Mets playing back when every single team plays up no matter what the circumstances now because that's what the number say.

And I'm writing all this down. And I'm writing down. And I'm writing down. Like, oh my gosh, I can't want to talk about this. and then all of a sudden it's 10-2 and that has been this freaking series man that has been this series where it's been

one team taking the other team out give them a spanking and it hasn't been close man um like gotta give credits the Mets for coming back and putting a hurting on the Dodgers like this and and my boy Jack he didn't

he didn't look sharp today he did not he was throwing the slider all over the place uh throwing it a lot. And that pitch that we just saw right there that Pete hit out, I mean, that was a good pitch. I mean, if you go a little bit, you go on

MLB.com, and you see like the pitch sequence and you see where the pitch is on a game, whatever it's called, that's well, well below the strike zone. He went out and got that thing. That's the tip of the cap type moment, Pete Alonzo

coming up absolutely huge. Jack's Vilo was down today. The stuff wasn't very sharp. He was falling behind hitters. He had 32 pitches in the first inning. It just wasn't happening. And I think like you mentioned

at the end of the third it's 8 to 1. It's 8 to 1 and the Dodgers and Dave Roberts are saying okay yeah look at that pitch man. That's for a Homer dead central, that 4 right there. That is impressive.

You know when it gets to 8 to 1 one in the bottom of the third, it's what can we do to save our pitching is essentially what this game turns into. I don't think he, I mean, yeah, this offense can, you know, go on a run and they cut the lead down to four at one point, got it to 10-6 before the Mets scored in the bottom half to put him back up five. But I don't know, man. Again, like, do we analyze every single inning here or do we just say wow, like the Mets came out and beat the Dodgers

badly and now it's going back to L.A. I think that's what we have to say about this game. Yeah, I mean, I think there's things to talk about and like, hey, we talked about the Mets with runners in scoring position. They get a couple early. Five for 19. 19 that bats with runners.

I got one thing. I just forgot to say I'm this rant real quick. I'm sorry to cut you up. Please. And I, is this a glitch? They didn't strike out once today? It has the Mets with zero strikeouts today. Has that ever happened in a baseball game?

Like ever? Like for, in the last five years, has there ever been a game without a strikeout? I don't know. People, it doesn't seem like it. Not today's ball. That's, I thought that was wrong. It might be wrong. No, it's.

But I don't remember seeing any strikeouts, I guess, but. The home. run sparked an incredible night for the Mets offense. One that did not include a strikeout by any New York hitter. It marked the first time a team hasn't struck out in a postseason game since the Angels in 2002 World Series against the Giants rally monkey times. That was just out of the top of my head, by the way. You and Chris Rose. Chris Rose was most of the day.

And you know who was in the dugout for the opposing team? Chris Rose just woke up with a boner in London. That's insane, dude That's nuts, Trev. That's Bullocks. Wow. Hey, okay, so that's something for the Mets.

All right, Dodgers, you probably don't want to hear a lot. You know, our guy Jack gets rocked around the park, like you said, Velo down, four walks, zero K, eight Ernie's, Brent Honeywell has to eat it. Our fingerprints all over this game, by the way. 67 pitches 4.2 for Ernie's. And yeah, I mean, it's a, okay, a little bit of good for the Dodgers. I mean, they still hit in this game, and they had a chance to make it scary.

I mean, Frederick with the bases loaded. You're right. You're right. That, you know, not a lot of teams would have done that. And let's be honest, I don't want to call them, this wasn't a punk game. They had Jack Flaherty with a chance to win, and if they had a chance to go win it, they would have. But it's not a punt game.

What do you mean? Brent Honeywell throwing 4.2. Like, it's not like they were chasing. It became that. Yes. You're right. In the top of the fourth, Paheis hits the Homer,

gets it to 8-2. Him and Alvarez are mad. I don't know what Alvarez is mad about. I don't know. What was he mad about? Did he pimp to Homer? Dude, this is, that's just ball these days. And like you guys are saying,

I remember you tell me this. Pimp and home runs has been around forever, guys. Yes. Always done it. I don't know why he was so mad at that. They exchanged some words. Who else?

Muncie and Peterson exchanged some words. That was interesting. Maybe the Mets are just trying to fire themselves up, but then it's a Shohei Blup single. Mookie walks, Teo walks, bases loaded. Reed Garrett comes in.

So they take the lefty out and bring in Reed, Arrida, to face Freddie Freeman. and he works it to a three-two count. I kind of like Pahy's reaction right there to be honest. Like, what are you talking? What's just,

sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-h. Freddy works it to a three-two count and re-throws an absolutely filthy backdoor slider and frees, strikes him out. That to me was when I was like, all right, this game is over. Like if Freddy comes up, obviously hits a shot in the gap there, all of a sudden it's eight to five and we're talking, but you don't get too many of those moments.

in the game. You knew that they were going to eventually kind of close this game out. They bring in, you know, I think what is considered their good bullpen. Stand it comes in, does a great job, and then Diaz comes in for the final two innings of work there.

Yeah, I mean, this was they had to have it, obviously, and they got it. And now it is, let's go win against the Dodgers bullpen day in L.A. And then we'll see what happens in game seven. I mean, the Mets are, right back in the think of things. Yeah, let's highlight the Mets a little more.

Like that, I feel like that was targeted at the Dodgers. Obviously, Pete's home run is huge in a season, do-or-die game. I mean, David Peterson works out of trouble in that first inning, that if, and if things go awry, which they kind of started the game going awry, like that, you know, that feels a lot different for a fan base that's kind of used to pain. And an instant in that first inning, it goes the other direction. And then, yeah, I mean, the Mets kind of needed all of those 12 runs to make it not seem, you know, four runs is kind of the new one in baseball. Like it's always been there in a way, because obviously one swing,

but even like saves being within three runs. I think nowadays, if you're within four, especially the Dodgers, it feels like it's there. And they, pushed the envelope every time that it got there. This is a 10 to 2 game, but Winker with a triple. McNeil is in the lineup with some production. So like that is significant for the Mets as well. Alvarez doing anything with the bad is important. And yeah, hey, good on the Mets for survive.

Not only surviving early, but making this an 8 to 1 game and then a 10 to 2 game. And a lot of teams aren't coming back from them. You're right about the first inning. A couple of weird plays. I mean, showy it's the ground ball. Kind of like goes under McNeil's glove. That was a base hit. And then Mookie has the double.

It's off of Marte's glove. So it starts off and the Mets fans have to be saying, holy shit. Worst case, dude. You're starting McNeil over Iglesias, who has some of the best hands of our generation. Oh, my God. That, yeah, that feels awful.

Okay. Okay, now that we're here, we're going to just dive into this game. Why were they playing back? Like, in my opinion, in the way that I was taught, which is old school ball nowadays, yeah, you probably play back there. It's second and third. There's nobody out. Let's exchange a run for an out.

But teams don't play that way anymore. But the twins and most teams now play up in every situation except for two outs. Like if there's a runner on third base, if there's run on second and third, you're playing up because the numbers say to play up. I mean, I have asked that question. I've been on broadcast saying, what's going on? I go into the office and I talk to these guys about it. That's what they want to do.

Mets are back. Teo hits the ground ball to Lindor who's back and Shohei doesn't run. And this is a team who's like 70 and 30 when they score first. That was interesting to me. I didn't really understand that. It doesn't have to be a contact play. He could have breezed tone right there, and he didn't do it. Freddie ends up lining out to P. Edmund K. Zero, zero.

You're totally right. If the Dodgers score right there, score one, score two. It's a completely different feeling. Jack comes out feeling completely different. You're pitching with the lead. It just is, and they don't. So great job by the Mets and Peterson of getting out of that. And then they just kind of open the floodgates.

We mentioned Reed Garrett with the big strikeout. So they did avoid some big innings or some crooked numbers, if you will, from the Dodgers. And yeah, they had good abats, man. In that bottom of the third when they went up 8-1, I mean, they had the lead-off hitter, every single inning up into that point was on. You know, in that third inning, Pete has a good at bat. He works the walk. Winker walks, Marte 2-rundouble, you know, Alvarez, 2-out RBI,

Lindor 2 out RBI, Nemo 2 out of RBI. Like they were all kind of backbreakers during that inning and just again got away for the Dodgers. They could never really make it close enough. And I just, you had to know, I guess it wasn't going to be easy for the Dodgers. The Mets just haven't played that way during the postseason. Whenever they've had their backs against the walls, when they played their best.

Robert, after the game, he said infield back, cornered in, corners in, a situation. Sho Hay's got to go on that ball up the middle of the infield. I think he just locked up there. It's no excuse. I wonder if, you know, on the Mets side... Oh, he said brain cramp. Okay. I haven't heard that one I want. On the Mets side, I'm just

thinking out loud like Shohay running. Like maybe you're just like, hey, you know, it's we're probably screwed here. So, but I don't know. In that situation, I said, like I've been taught and I think it, in my opinion, it is the right

play with the speed like you're talking about and you don't want to give up range and give up two runs when you can just exchange for one but that's just not what people preach anymore man they're preaching ultra aggressive infield in and they weren't there and yes show had a misread right there and hey who who knows what if we're missing some contest sticks we are sound off in the comments but I don't know is that managing is that because it's got to be tempting to bring the infield in on a do-or-die game for your team.

So maybe that was over, managing. Maybe it was a miss by the, who knows? But it works out for them. Trev, let's tee up the game six a little bit. And it's brought to you by Corona Extra. And whether it's a big home run or some old-fashioned small ball, that's what we talk about on here. Or maybe just a great ballpark snack.

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but this is interesting. Like, again, I've been caught up in a lot of the Yankees guards stuff. I'll be honest. Obviously, our guy Jolly is streaming, and it's one other series. But early blowout, like, it was kind of like, okay, let's check in. There's going to be a game six. Let me check in on this, Yanks guards. Sean Mania

Pitching game six for the Mets Who started the only other game The Mets won this series And he's been kind of their ace This postseason Already done it at Dodger Stadium once this series Coming off an off day Where the Mets will have their good bullpen rested

That you know in a dream Mets world It's Mania A handful of whatever matchup you need to DIA for two innings, which he did today, if you need that. You know, Budo, Meiton, Garrett, Stannick, whatever you want to do, is Sanga bullpen guy now? I don't know. Meanwhile, on the Dodgers side, and Mets, it's still do or die.

Like, hey, we have to win this game to play tomorrow. So if Diaz has to go out there and throw 35, we'll do it, and we'll figure it out the next day. The Dodgers, it's not that simple, because if they're going to bullpen this, you know, once relievers start entering that 20, 25, 30 range, you're starting to bring into question the next day just a little bit more that not only are they going to have to navigate a bullpen day,

you know, the normal way you'd think about, but Dave Roberts has to be, you know, for his guy guys, for the guys on the back end there, he can't burn them out. Like you can't, if it's a tied game or if the Mets were to take a lead, late, like you can't have Trinan or Kopeck out there throwing 30 plus bullets. So I don't know. I guess just another interesting wrinkle that the Dodgers not being in full do or die mode just adds another bit of a layer to it. So I was thinking, okay, we saw a bullpen game already here. Brazier started. They gave the run.

The Dodgers approached it wildly different than they did against when it did the playoff or the, excuse me, the bullpen game against the Padres. I'm looking at that box score right now. Okay. So for the Dodgers, I feel like that was like the ideal bullpen game for them. They scored some runs, but it went Brazier,

one in the third, then Banda came in for like a lefty lane. He got two thirds of an inning. Then it was copic in in the third inning. He pitched an inning. Then Vessia, who they do not have anymore, pitched an inning in two thirds. Then it was Evan Phillips.

Then it was Hudson. Then it was Trininin. And then at the end there, it was Land and Nack when they were already up a bunch of runs. But they're missing Vessier who threw an inning in two-thirds. The guys have already seen NACC. They've already seen Brazier. You know, it's, I'm curious.

I mean, this is now Dave Roberts being put into the situation that a lot of Dodgers fans are scared of. They're scared of Dave Roberts' decisions. That's what I hear all the time from them. He's been pretty dang good this postseason. Like I said, he's done this before. I am

I am 100% in on the Mets like easily forcing a game 7. I'm not saying it's going to happen, but like Manaya on the mound, a whole pen game. It's there's no way,

there's in no way shape or form are the Mets like, I don't even think they're worried. I really don't. I think they feel like they're going to get a game seven. I feel like they feel like they have all the momentum in the world and like who's to who's to doubt them right now. Yeah, it's interesting. The way Manaya pitched in game two, like dude. And and the Mets the Mets like you said, their back has been against the wall since game 161 of the regular season against the Brewers. Like it it's just continued on and on for the Mets. I guess for me, the Dodgers, you know, their back was up against the wall with San Diego,

and they turned it on, and it was a ton of hitting, and it was a lot of pitching. And I think they were getting offended when we even said it was just bullpen because they got some efforts out of Flaherty, Yamamoto Bueller. But it's where the early runs, and I know, like, this is broken record stuff. and oh yeah, it's the team that gets ahead early. But seriously, think of the decisions Dave Roberts has to make if they're down, you know? And the significance of that.

If it's one run, sure. I mean, you're going out and you've got Hall of Famers in your lineup. You've got guys who aren't Hall of Famers that can have a three-homer game. Like, you know, you're going to go get that game. If it's a three-four-run lead, if the Mets do something, like they did today. I mean, you, I don't know. It gets interesting quick,

and when the Dodgers were in this situation previously, their lineup did the thing, and they still can because they still have those guys. So if they go full throttle and they put the Mets down 5 to 1, well... Sure. They can. They have that ability. 100%. I'm just saying this is a flashback to game 2 of the series.

This is the exact same scenario. It's in Dodger Stadium, Mania on the hill, bullpen game for the Dodgers in that game against Manaya. Shohei went 0 for 3, Mookie went 0 for 4, Teosker went 0 for 3 and Freddie went 0 for 5. That's kind of the recipe.

If you can do that again, do it, Mets. I don't think that's going to happen. I think Mookie is really feeling it right now. I think Shohay is going to be doing his thing. So in that essence, you know, if you're the Dodgers, you have to feel pretty comfortable with the offense and like he scored six runs tonight. You feel very confident in your ability to put up runs against this Mets team no matter who's on the mound.

I'm just, I think my main point here is it has become a series again, like a legit series again. And yeah, man, I'm still waiting on the one back and forth thriller game in this series that we haven't gotten yet. But it could be as early as Sunday. We will find out with the rest of you. Man, interesting. I mean, the Dodgers have the two shutouts. We'll find out this weekend. I think Jolly will be streaming.

I think that's going to be on our J.M. Baseball channel because Yanks and Guards will be off on Sunday. But they will not be off tomorrow, and they played another absolute whirlwind of a game tonight. Massive game four in Cleveland to see who would be the king of the heel between Luis and Gavin Newsom Williams, who will become the governor of Cleveland with a big start. Top one, SOTO Soto, two run Homer into the seats, Yanks in front.

J-Ram, the sack fly and him are underrated. Don't tell Booney. Two, one after one. Shall we shag now or shall we shag later? Yeah. Austin powers a solo shot. It's 3-1 Yanks. Heal gets nailored by Josh.

He finishes Fournings pitch, Tour and Run 3Ks. Three to two after three. It's stay that way. Into the sixth. Hit the music. Jean-Carlo, let the rhythm take you over, Jean-Carlo. Take Giro. Moonshot Homer.

six to two Yankees, but these guard dogs are hungry. J-Ram and Naylor, you know they're eating. They both double it up and they wash it down with some fries. As David ties it up at sixes in the eighth, Anthony, the Cleveland fans get more pissed off at all the Italians in the stands around them as Rizzo and Bolfi single. Roki, no, E-6, and it's getting cold in Cleveland as glazed. Burr is too icy. No Christmas come early for Noel and the boys this time as the Yanks take game four

in Cleveland 8-6 final. You're getting too political now. I know. I guess I hit both sides. Sorry to bring your guy Gavin into it. French laundry Gavin? I mean, I was, you know, honestly, you know what, I'll peel back the curtains. One, I want to apologize to Cleveland fans.

I write these burns. for talking yanks. So this one has a little, lean in a little left for the yanks, if you will. Oh my gosh. You know, there could be better, you know, I could add some more Cleveland to it,

but to write another one of these, that's just a lot of work. The other thing, I forget what I was going to say. So let's see if I circle up on it later. Who are you voting for? I'm glad we've landed here. Oh, oh, this is, this one's more of a beauty of Jake. I was like, Gavin Williams, where, where am I going with this?

I was like, what Gavin's do I know? It was Gavin Newsom and Gavin. From, um, what band am I thinking of? Gavin Rosdale. I like that. I don't know who that is. I went Gavin de Grau. If you remember Gavin de Grau had a couple of it.

It don't come easy, no. So, yeah. Gavin Rosdale from Bush. Oh, nice, dude. You just went a generation before me. I mean, I know Bush. He's like a hot boy rocker. Of course I know who that is.

Yeah, he's 58 now. I went to a concert and was with Olivia and, like, her friend, and Gavin Rosdale was on stage. Oh, I kind of remember this. I think this was not a talking baseball. They were like looking. I'm like, hey, I can play the guitar. live. I'll do it. I'll strum a few chords

for you back at home. Plug it in. No, I didn't say that. I didn't say that. Take out the actual guitar. Oh, hey, before we move on to this series, yes. The average deficit, margin of victory in the Mense Dodgers series is

seven runs. Crazy. Jeez. Now we can talk. Trev, where do you want to go, man? I obviously, we live stream this game for four hours. We recorded a talking yanks after. Crazy wild game. I listened to this game. The first like three or four

ratings, I was listening to Sterling and Susan call it. I was at Teddy's basketball game. So I was listening to that. That was, it's such an interesting experience. I was talking to you guys before the episode how like they are, they're a show in their own right. Like it's, it is, there are talking about the baseball game. But they have all their corks and the things that they do, man. It's really funny. Obviously, I don't listen to a ton of Yankees games on the radio, but whenever I do, it's good.

I'm happy that Sterling's back calling for the playoffs. It's great. Then I end up watching the second half of the game. I watched it the broadcast. So I got a little bit of both worlds. I saw John Carlos' home run. That was he's really just like putting himself in a different category. for postseason players and for Yankees,

you know, that's reserved for the big boys. Postseason heroes with the Yankees, get remembered for a long time, and he's really turned into that. The numbers are staggering, they're overwhelming, and I don't know what it is, the bright lights, whatever. It's the ultra-focus, you know, the intensity brings out something different in guys at this point,

and he seems to end. answer the bell, but that was, when you hit that home run, I was like, oh man, like, this is over. And then of course it's not. Of course it's not over. And the guard dogs come back in the game, tied up. I do have, I feel like

I do have all sorts of questions for you. A lot of them Yankees related. But what were, I saw the reactions of, you know, the tying it up, the nailer knock, you know, like another roller coaster game for you guys.

Yeah, so the Yankees, probably like a lot of, you know, your teams do. They play by pretty strict bullpen rules during the season. Like, guys aren't going to pitch three games in a row. Guys aren't going to pitch four out of five days. Like, in the postseason, obviously, some of that comes out the window. But the Yankees bullpen came into this game depleted. That, you know, is one of the storylines for us that, like, hey, there's going to be guys coming out of the bullpen. in situations that, you know, not to dub people or hit them with the too small,

but if you're kind of a casual, you're going to be shocked to see Mark Lider Jr. who wasn't on the roster coming into today pitching in the eighth inning of a tied postseason game. So, yeah, it's, again, it's probably a weird state of baseball episode for the off season, but these bullpens get pushed, and it was part of the reason Yankee fans weren't necessarily in love with their trade deadline, and Yankee fans were hoping they'd get a Tanner Scott or another bullpen arm because there's a ripple effect in the bullpen. Anyways, the Yankees had the advantage early. Gavin Williams hasn't been great this year.

He wasn't going to be super long for this game. And, you know, the Yankees have seen the Guardians bullpen, but they had a little more rest on their side, a little more depth. So it was get to Gavin Williams. Boom. Juan Soto, two hitters in, two run Homer. He's that guy. He watched Judge.

Basketball top of the zone. He watched Judge and Stanton do it the night before. He said, let me join this party. That was massive. Giancarlo hits another homer. He's entering a rare air of postseason lore. He's one dotted in like 35 games. Six to two Yankees.

The Guardian, the Yankees had the advantage at the start of this game. Luis Heel, his first time pitching in the postseason. It's a fine rookie postseason start for a kid who hasn't pitched in three weeks. Great pitch on Schneeman. That 3-2 cutter, slider. that was absolutely nasty to get out of a jam right there. He is, like, Sterling, the whole time

that he was talking about, he was like, man, I hate to be this simple about it, but if he just throws strikes, he'll be effective. And it's like, yeah, you're kind of right, dude. It's nasty right there. That was a good John Sterling impression right there, I think.

Not bad. Not bad. I mean, you were locked in. I wasn't even really trying to then just kind of came out. I don't like that. The Yankees are up six to two. Going into the seventh.

Cleveland punches back. It's Ramirez. It's Naylor. It's Fry in the next inning. Just a crazy baseball play. And that was the other thing that, hey, as a Yankee fan, team won tonight. We're up 3-1, whatever.

I did this last night after they lost. It's where baseball is beautiful and daunting that, man, there were some broken bat hits in this. There's some infield singles. And it's just, you know, line drives that are going off the tip of people's gloves. And it's just like this game is so deliciously beautiful and sickening at the same time if you're on the wrong end of those plays that tonight could have went to either one of these teams. I mean, the Yankees used one, two, three, four, five relievers.

The middle three of the five relievers gave up runs. That, yeah, it, I don't know. It was another great baseball game. It really was. I'm happy to see Josh Nail. I love the abat from him right there on the double that gets it to six to five. They were talking about him and his brother on the broadcast and just talking about what it's like to play together.

We've talked about that on our show before, but can you just imagine? man, like you're a big bro, you get the knock. You see baby bro do the same thing. That's a battle swing right there. Good for him dumping that in there. The double in the gap was beautiful. But again, just think about watching your brother, like,

get a big knock and you're on the same team. I don't know. It's just, I feel like it doesn't get talked about enough. These are bros in the middle of the ALCS going up against the Yankees, dude. like how special is that? You know, I thought Vote did a good job, like, kind of like bringing the guys in that he wanted and Stan ends up getting Cade Smith.

So now they've gotten to kind of like, the Yankees have gotten to all of the A plus relievers. Cade Smith's got got, Gattis has got got, Claude's got got. And you can kind of say the same thing about Guardians getting to all the Yankees good relievers. So now it feels like as we move forward in this series, like, I don't know, like is any lead really safe?

Weaver doesn't pitch tonight. Mark Leiter looks like he gives up a homer to Noel. Like that camera work was, I mean, I don't know what was going on there. I screamed. I was like, oh, my God, he did it again. And then all of a sudden you see Verdugo, like, at the bottom of the wall, you're like, what is going on here, dude? I was like, what?

Yeah, that, yeah, it looked like Big Christmas did it again. And yeah, I guess I was feeling bad. Again, I am a Yankee fan. I very openly admit that. I guess Yankee fans were like pissed off like, what the hell? What's that camera angle, dude? You're, blah, blah, ro, right.

Would you happy? Yeah, if I was, I guess I just put on my Cleveland fan hat and I was like, oh, God. Yeah, that's crushing. Yeah, it's crushing. If you're a Cleveland fan And you see that happen You're jumping up and down like Oh my God, he did it again

And then all of a sudden you see the ball in And Verdigo's glove and nothing happens You don't even score a run Yeah The fly ball to left field Yeah Oh man A good note by you about them getting to Cleveland's relievers

Same with LOL same with the Yankees Yeah getting up big for the Yankees was clearly important. And so I guess that, again, I know we say this about almost every playoff game, but this was Exhibit A for the Yankees who Luke Weaver essentially was not going to pitch in this game. Clay Holmes on fumes, everyone on fumes. And yeah, I guess, you know, we tilted our heads a little bit. They took Gavin Williams out at 2.1.

It's probably the right move in hindsight looking at the box score. up a home run to Soto and Austin Wells, who gets slid down the lineup with a solo homer that, you know, in a tied game in the eighth, that we'll take that run. Williams looked like he was finding it a little bit. He threw a couple nice curve balls. But if you send him through the Yankees' meat of the lineup again with, you know, Soto, Judge, and Stanton, and he doesn't get out,

then you feel like a fool. So I don't blame vote there at all. let's we're kind of bouncing all over the place but that's fine because this game was all over the place let's go to the bottom of the 8th okay I'm talking about Bo Nailer and

he doubles down the line and you know big bro's watching it I just think that was such a cool moment and then Rokio's up and they showed you know Rizzo he always just plays down your throat it's what he does you know you and him throat

throat gods um What's that? So Rokie doesn't bunt. Which, you know, it's weird because, you know, just when you're moving the runner to third, you bunt to third. That's the whole thing. But I think, and I think Rizzo took the bunt away from him because he's like, I'll just hit it. Right.

How about I just, how about I try to get a base hit here? He ends up taking kind of like a crap swing, hits the ball on the ground. I think it was a great read by Bo Nailer because a lot of times you have to see that. you know where the shortstop is and you can see that it softly hit and you know the shortstop's not going to get you up. We have to worry about it as the pitcher there. To see it by the pitcher and then make the decision,

he had a great read on that. So all of a sudden now, same thing as a bun. Third base, one out, Stephen Kwanah, you're like, oh, this is easy money. Yeah. It's the pop-up. All of a sudden, two outs,

running on third base, David Frye. Q ball. C ball. Lider's got it. No, he doesn't have it. Oh, my gosh. Oh, he's got it.

Flip it. And I don't know what happened right there, man. It looked like Rizzo went. Beavs try to get it from behind and pause it when the ball's like in the air if you can. If you know what I mean. It looks like he's going, he thinks he might want to. a bare hand that and then decides no that's not the play and then tries to get his glove there and it's just not in time it just it was he was too slow with it I think in that moment he thought

he was in a bare hand it maybe didn't know exactly what lighter was going to do with that ball like was he going to flip it with the glove was he going to exchange it and flip it with the hand And whatever the reason, Missy zoos this thing, and all of a sudden we got a tie freaking ball game, dude. What a crazy sequence of events right there. I rewatch that play a few times. And like, you know, I'll admit it. There's sometimes the baseball stuff I don't feel, you know,

a lot of the hitting stuff at that level. I'll pass it to you. I'll have a thought on it. But there could be something I'm completely missing. Defense, you know, a little more comfy there and seen a lot of ball that this is a weird one, dude. I don't have the answer because lighter,

okay, I get your athlete instincts kick in and you might be able to field that cleanly and he almost does. I think if he does the pitcher pull away, Glauber probably makes the play on that. Whatever. It's an athlete making a play in a big game. Don't fault him for that at all.

Ball's rolling towards the first baseline. He goes, he gets it, he picks it up with his bare hand, which we've seen a lot of pitchers kind of struggle with that process. But now he's full tilt, now crossing the line, and he's pretty close to Riz that in an ideal world, I guess he pops it up and puts a little more air on it. I mean, there's another part of me that's like, should he almost just, like, bury it in Rizzo's chest and just,

I don't know, it's a weird one. Honestly, that was a perfect flip, dude. Yeah. it was a perfect flip so Rizzo's moving his feet over to give him a lane essentially right

but the one thing like the first thing they teach you when you're learning for space especially at any level I teach my kids this but they really hammer it to you is you have to expect a bad throw

every time you're going to get a throw from the infield whether it's the pitcher or whatever you just expect a bad throw and what that makes you do is bend your knees you don't make any movements until you see the ball in the air that's when you start your stretch

this is a little different keep that up bebes I want to I want to see that if you can keep over there I mean there it looks like the glove is in him bent he has the glove up and then it's lowered so he goes down and just not in time I think I think

it's hard for me to say in this situation The game is going a million miles an hour at this time. But I don't think he was like down ready for a bad throw. I think he was just saying, yeah, hit me right here. And it wasn't right there. It was that the belt tried to flip the glove over. And it just wasn't in time. That's, that was a, that was crazy.

It's a weird one. And on the Yankees side, you see a play like that happen with a pitcher who got added to the roster today. And Fregg gets a single on it? Yeah. Crazy, right? And it was a cue ball, which we got to start saying on this show more, because it was a cue ball. Oh, I think the right term would be a mass say,

because the cue ball is just a cue ball. Oh. But when you spin it in pool, you mass say it, right? I don't know. Whatever. You're the French guy. Yeah, and on the Rokio thing there, like he's been one of their better hitters this series,

so you'd assume the bunt, but also, you know, he's hitting 355 this postseason, so especially with Rizzo in. I'll be honest, this game could have get either way. Cainley, to come in for the save. Like, he gets a blessing of a call on Lane Thomas to start the inning on a three-two count. That if that doesn't happen,

I can't promise you we'd be recording, and we might be seeing Marcus Stroman pitching in the 15th inning right now. But, like, yeah, yeah, Yankees get away with one at the same time, Juan Soto and Giancarlo Stanton to a $300 million guy, probably a $600 million guy coming up soon. They both home are in this game.

And yet, Yankee fans are feeling pretty good, man. It's funny, the lineup, the pitching had been so dominant. Like, good start, kick it to Holmes, Cainley Weaver, maybe some Tim Hill action who's been great. And then the lineup did enough. The past two games, the lineup has done enough, and the pitching starting to fall apart. So depending if you're a glass half full, glass half empty,

the Yankees have seen their team do anything that you'd want to see your team do in a postseason, so they're feeling good. And Cleveland is sitting there like, hey, it's 3 and 1. It could have been 2 and 2. And I think they're set up pretty good for tomorrow. but Trev, you just had an odd reaction for everyone watching on YouTube and subscribing.

I went to Tim Hill's baseball reference page. Yes. Okay. We've done this before, and I don't know how I miss this. Okay. Number one, I was going there saying, should Tim Hill be a starter?

Whoa. Never started the game in the big leagues. What? 382 games as a reliever Never started the game All I'm saying is Dude, give him the shamaniah Grissale treatment

And let's just Develop an ace Can't we do that? My only worry is he currently has One and a half pitches Well dude, just That arm angle creates It's like a whole new pitch

Just by changing your arm angle And throwing across your body Everyone knows that Let's go guys Get Yankees, figure it out Next, What's really got me up in arms here is I'm pretty sure he went to school with Olivia in high school.

Granada Hills, hi. That's where she went. Dude, I was just going to say, I thought Jimmy might have went to a Granada, but. No, this is Granada Hills, California. This is Ryan Braun. This is John Elway. This is Olivia. We've done this before.

He's 34. Oh. Yeah, she's 35. She's, leap it out. It's fine. I'm going to have to ask her if she knows Tim Hill. Oh, boy. Maybe I don't want to know the answer.

We've definitely been this too. He's always been into ball players. Okay. Hey, I guess this is just a random baseball thing. Tim Hill. Tim Hill, who's had a nice major league career for sidewining underarm lefty. He's had a few very productive seat. out there. During his career, the three-batter rule is added that hurts a guy like him.

He was on the Chicago White Sox this year at age 34 to the tune of a 587 ERA over 23 innings. Now he is one of the high-leverage pitchers for the New York Yankees. And it's where this sport wins again. IMO. I love all the sports. on my original AOL username was Sports Jake. Dude, Treve, over 44 innings in the regular season. How many strikeouts do you think he had? 44 innings.

A regular season? Regular season. I'm going to go with 44. 18. Yeah, I knew it was going to be less, but I was just setting you up. It feels like every pitcher we look at either has more Ks per inning,

they're right around it. I mean, This dude is playing the game completely different. Do you know what I'm doing right now? Okay. I'm looking for Marcus Stroman. Yeah, so we're a lot of Yankee fans. I mean, dude, the Guardians are 90% lefty,

and Stroman got rocked by lefties this year. I'm just saying you're talking about Tim Hill going from the White Sox to being a high leverage guy. The Yankees signed Marcus Strzeman for $18.5 million. per year. For this year, next year, and then a player option. And we haven't seen him. No.

I know there's been some struggle. I think he was heal insurance tonight if things got ugly early. And then it got to the point that it got into the bullpen that, Treve, if this game went to extras, I mean, it would have been Tim Mesa, who warmed up, I think, in six of the nine innings. and Marcus Stroman. So again, it'll be a weird

off-season episode, but the way these teams navigate postseason bullpens is such a high-wire act that unfortunately Marcus Stroman has been turned into an insurance policy and this team is a bit of a bad matchup for him. That is such an interesting thing to think about now

because we don't have the Manfred runner. Right. And extra innings in the playoffs. Right. So you have to have someone that could eat some innings just in case. Yeah. I mean, the famous of all the outing for the socks. I don't know.

Any other quick hitters or big hitters you have for this one? It's not real. I mean, the Class A thing's crazy. They were talking on the broadcast about his V-Lo being down a few clicks. I mean, he was still hitting 100 every once in a while, but he was just middle of the plate, I guess, is what it is. And you have to give credit to Anthony Rizzo for having a nice bat getting on, leading off the inning after he zoos that ball.

Like, that's a pro. Volpey doing his thing. Like, you have to give credit to the Yankee hitters for getting to him. He dialed it up on Wells. That was a tough at bat for Wells right there. Verdigo Fist's one for the run, whatever, whatever. But Class A, yeah, I mean, it's In my opinion,

I'm watching him pitch and I'm like, he's still nasty, but I think it really is just location. The sharpness is gone just a little bit because he's pitched so freaking much this year. So just that little bit of sharpness, he's doled his pitches a little bit, below down a little bit and location. I mean, that's all those things

just make him elite. He doesn't have them right now. the Yankees have been kind of exposing that. I have a thought on that. And let's tee up the final game. It's brought to you by BetterHelp. This show is sponsored by BetterHelp. I mean, a lot of people this October are looking for better help,

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so very open to any class A commentary The Yankees have a lot of professional hitters, veterans, that they, you know, they've been around the league for a while. They've shown what they can do. That I think when they get a pitcher with a limited pitch mix and that they've seen him enough, they put together pro at bats. Again, I don't think their recent success against Class A

would continue at this clip. I think it's, what is it now, six out of 10 saves they've got to him. But yeah, they traditionally struggle, and I don't know if it's preparation or being a pro or how good, whatever it is. They traditionally struggle if there's a pitcher with like a six-pick pitch mix. Like, you know, they just saw like the Lugos and the Waukas.

Like I don't, I think the guys in their lineup, the judges, Stanton's Rizzo's, you know, class A's. 80% cutter, whatever it is. I don't know. They've seen a lot of base. It's just a theory, and I'd love to hear more from guards fans if they, if class A isn't as sharp.

I mean, yes, as a hitter 100%, you'd rather face a guy with two pitches than six. Sure. Even if the two pitches are better on average than this guy's six pitches. It's easier. You can eliminate. If one's not working at a day, you can eliminate, and just sit.

It makes game planning easier. So, yeah, but I do think a lot of it has been based on just location. And then, yeah, I mean, you are, you seen the guy, and that is the beauty of, you know, watching these pros hit is adjustments get made, dude. Like, you make adjustments, and that is up to, say, now, to make whatever adjustment he needs to make. And I don't know if he can do it, you know, by tomorrow night. but that's the dance.

It's been interesting, man. You'd still look at his stuff. It still looks really good. But like I said, even if it's just dulled a little bit, big league hitters are going to pounce on it, especially if it's over the plate. We will find out tomorrow night. We'll be live streaming from the Talking Yang's channel.

Again, if you haven't been a part of it, it's a unique industry breaking thing we're doing. Who's coming in tomorrow, bro? Somebody political. Hopefully, you know, I put out my fingers tonight. That's what I heard, yeah. He's got a lot going on from the SNL skits I've seen about it. That's where I get my news. I think that's even a political take, so I don't give a fuck.

We'll be streaming tomorrow night on talking to Angics. I believe our boy, Tanner, Issa Bibi, will get the pill on slightly short rest, but he got pulled early from his start against Carlos Rodon, who looked really good against the Guardians. continuation. The Yankees have no bullpen. The Guardians, you're going to have a lot of guys that are pitching probably on like a third day with an off day coming after.

So we'll see. Honestly, I think it's going to be another grimy postseason baseball game. And whoever, maybe it's every game in this series. I think the advantage is Yankees early. if they don't take advantage of that, it's Guardians late. Okay. That's just me, dog.

Hey, Guardians fans, don't tell Stephen Fote this. Start John Kensey-Noil. You're big on that. We're terrified on that. Hey, Carlos Mendoza, start Jesse Winker. They did. Yeah, they did. Now look.

Hey, Aaron Boone, don't put jazz chisim in the four holes. Yeah, I'd like to think that changes tomorrow, but I don't know. Maybe it doesn't. I don't know. All right, Big Meach. Do it all again tomorrow? Let's do it, baby.

Sorry for all the politics tonight, guys. You were politicking. It's that time of year, you know? Chick-soaks. Shaking hands, kissing babies. Go out and vote, guys. All right, let me ask you real quick. My country club's been closed.

Oh, such hell. Range has been only mats. So today, I'm playing tomorrow for the first time in two months. I went in front of the mats to hit off some grass. Just a couple balls. And the guy yelled at me. And I said, bro, it's ridiculous. Let me hit off some grass.

I'm wrong. If everyone's special, we have a problem.