Talkin' Baseball (MLB Podcast) - Offseason Powershift!

Episode Date: January 26, 2026

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Hello and welcome to Talking Baseball. We had a couple big pitcher trades. Fastball, Freddie, McKenzie Gore, and Cody Bellinger to my yanks. Let's yuck some ball people. Josiah Gray. Rob Carruth. Just went with it the other way. Hello and welcome to Talking Baseball.

It is January 26th. Holy smokes, coach. And it's almost time for the baseball season tweet. because there's one more football game coming. Sorry, Coach. Sorry Jake as well, for those that know I'm a Broncos fan. We got to unpack that a little bit at some point. But, and yeah, we have some big baseball news.

If these moves happened in late December, early January, we might have been a live reaction. I think you and Rosie still got one of these. But Freddie Peralta and his package, McKenzie Gore and who he can be. along with Cody and I don't j ram just gets another extension and some cool perks and stuff uh we'll see what else we got along the way coach how how we doing i'm a little bit tired today so if i stumble over my words or maybe my brain's not working today please excuse me obviously tough game up there in seattle for a coach and yeah you too you and jack davish sorry about your broncos

that was a uh i thought there wasn't supposed to be weather in your game then all of a sudden there's a blizzard out there what happened there um But there's no better way to cure the blues than to yuck up some ball with you. And I always love how you say the word December. Oh, December. December. What's up with that? If this trade happened in December, I don't know.

I don't know. There's something wrong with me. Yeah, big snow across the country. So I know, you know, producer Rob right now is like locked up. They had like two feet of snow. The city got just under a foot or so. You probably know how I measured. And I was excited.

This was my first snowstorm like really in the city. Biggest snowstorm since 2022. And yeah, it was, I thought the snow day vibes would be a little more fun. I was like, this is a perfect storm. Like massive snow day, the two championship games. And yeah, it was okay. Met up with a couple friends and stuff. But like when when I thought the city should have been hitting peak like slop fest, everyone was called everyone's gone soft coach.

I don't know where I stand on it. What do you mean by that? Like I don't like for the second half of the Seahawks Rams game when you were getting rowdy like the city was calling it a night and I was just like what are we what are we doing people? We got a big game on. So I don't know. It was a fine time. I had a fine time. Okay.

And I think, I hope you had a fine flight back. I think he did. But yeah, man. And the fact that Broncos lost on that stupid backward shovel pass like that. Anyways, I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that because we got to the Mets. Man, there's been a lot of Mets this offseason. It was kind of.

Lately. In December. In December, it wasn't. I guess we were talking about the Mets in a non-complementary way. And we're going to unpack the Texas Rangers. and maybe some AL West this episode. And I don't know. Usually when we talk about the Nats,

it gets kind of dark quick. Let's do fastball Freddy first. Freddie Peralta and Tobias Myers. Remember when he had like an amazing season? The Mets get both of them for two legitimate prospect. Jet Williams, my short king and Brandon, the Sproke goat go over from the Mets to the brew crew. It's one year of Freddie.

He's making $8 million, which, if you remember earlier this offseason when me and John Boy got roasted. That price for what you're going to get from Freddie is incredible, and that probably upgraded the prospect package. A lot of moving parts here, Coach. We have the Mets continuing to make their moves of this offseason. We have the brewers that, again, we're unfortunately too numb to this at this point, but this is how they operate. And I don't know, I can't really shame them because it's working. So I guess when this went down, where was your head at?

Well, we knew Freddie was going to get dealt somewhere. There's just no way that Milwaukee was going to hold on to him. That's not what they do. You mentioned this is how they operate. The thing that kind of caught my eye right away as well is what you talked about. Tobias Myers is kind of like as a footnote in this trade is crazy to me because this guy has absolutely electric stuff. Can be either, in my opinion, end up being a high leverage bullpen guy or you can be a starter for you. you. And like he's, I think he has four years of control left, five years of control left. Like,

I think that's a very valuable piece for the Mets to acquire. And it was probably why they, not just for Freddie. I mean, you get Tobias as well. That's, I think, why the prospects were who they were. And then for the Brewers, you know, Jet Williams, Caleb Durbin, you know, this is, I mean, is there a more Brewers guy than a young guy who can run, play the outfield, play middle infield like they're going to figure out something for this guy. So that makes sense. And Brandon Sproote, he's got an electric arm as well. Like it makes sense for both of these teams to do this trade. I think the Mets did really, really well. They got their ace at the top of the rotation. And again, I can't overstate. I think I use that correctly, how important it is to bring Tobias into the

fold. But I think if you're the Mets, you like what you did because you were also able to McCain wasn't going anywhere, but I think a lot of, a lot of teams were asking for Jonah Tong as well. And to be able to retain both of those guys and then get the, you know, the guy that you wanted, I think is, is a win. Yeah. And that's, uh, when you're coming into a season, you kind of want, ideally you want seven or eight starting pitchers that you can look at going into the season because someone's going to get hurt. The one or two of those guys are usually prospects or something, and that's, you know, you kind of let the chips fall or they may, which I use that phrase a couple times yesterday and I've never,

is that even the right phrase? It's got to be from gambling, right? But that's, it wouldn't be the cards, not the chips? I don't know. But you mentioned Jonah Tongue, who they, yeah, like McLean wasn't being traded. I think Tong and Sproat was kind of the, how are the Mets, you know, hold on to three legitimate pitching prospects almost doesn't make sense to a degree when you're in whatever the Mets timeline currently is.

That, yeah, their rotation right now, Peralta McLean, David Peterson, who we love, Clay Holmes, Sean Maniah, Kodi Isanga. And that's with Jonah Tong as your seven man, that if you're the Mets, you have to feel pretty good about where you're starting pitching is heading going into the season. obviously whatever the baseball season throws at you you know pitching can get thin pretty quick but if you're the Mets you have to be feeling pretty good about that and just a pretty good couple weeks for the New York Mets yeah where do we rate their offseason now because it was doom and gloom not too long ago like there there was pitchforks out there and now the additions are bobbashette

horre polanco devon williams luke weaver fredi peralta louisa robert simeon and tobias That's a lot of turnover on that roster because those are all those are all major league baseball players right there. This isn't like they're not trading for prospects. They're getting big league talent. Now you end up losing obviously Pete and Edwin Diaz. So two major parts of your team. You can talk about Tyler Rogers, Ryan Helsley, McNeil, Nimmo. It's a it's a big roster turnover. And I think they're definitely better for it, right? I know Pete and Ed is. one is that's a big loss for them. But overall, I think parts in more than parts out. Yeah, I guess, you know, Pete versus Bichette is just a fun bar baseball conversation because you're comparing two very different righty hitters. And then, yeah, I guess the, I, I haven't fully processed the Mets off. See, I guess pitching wise, I've really, I like where they've landed. Um, the offense slash D. Um, the offense slash D. I guess I get a little confused because it's, you know, they kind of came out and said,

we want to focus on defense. And you look at Simeon and Luis Robert and you're like, okay, like, yeah, I'm getting some elite defense with some potential offensive upside. Also, with a potential downside offensively. But then I just get a little confused in the corners, where right now I'm looking at a mix of Beatty and Polanco and Vientos that I, Bichette. Like, you know, is he going to be third base? Is he going to be D-Hing? That I'm, the parts in are great. I guess I'm still intrigued to see how the final recipe looks.

You know, caught my eye about this trade as well as, you know, the David Stern's Milwaukee background. Like, he understands how that organization operates. Like, I know all your proprietary, you know, algorithms that you use and how you rank players and who you want. Like, I want to. how that like how does that affect negotiations for prospects like i'm very very curious how all that went down he knows people still in the front office who he's dealing with understands how they think it's

very curious if he if he knew right away who they were going to ask for than how he's supposed to combat that because it is a little song and dance there um but i thought about that right away too like dealing with your old team has to be has to be interesting yeah you'd like to think it's easier, right? Like, let's, we don't have to do a whole song and dance of like, oh, maybe we could trick him on this guy. It's like, no, I mean, Stearns kind of wrote the book there. Yeah, it's kind of funny if the brewers, you know, normally trade for a young pitcher like Spro, I think we'd be sitting here like, watch out. Like, you might have almost that old raise mindset that we haven't talked about in a long time, like, oh, shoot, you're giving the

brewers a young, talented arm. Because remember, Tobias Myers was on the scrap heap, and then he gave them a full season as like a two starter basically that you wonder how they're going to tap in but also isn't that what the Mets are doing now like so I don't know I'm interested to see that part of it like you mentioned jet williams short king which uh just hysterical that like the brewers kind of uh hole in the market right now is like we don't care if you're short as long as you're good at baseball and the other teams are like I don't know it's like it's kind of working I'm all over give me the short guys. What do we need a tall guy in baseball for? What's the point of that? It's like the whole point of the that you don't have to. Like it's a nice to like I like judge. I like pitchers. There's

usually a pretty good argument, although we got a couple short kings out there battling. Um, but yeah, uh, it is, uh, the, a brewery trade package for a brewery pitcher trading with the former GM of the brewers. So a little little, little tiny strike zone up there is perfect. imagine if that's like if that's part of their algorithm that it's harder for pitchers to pitch. Hey, Dalton went ham with some Freddie Peralta stats, so I feel like I should rip them. And I should tell the people that they should go to Seekekek because, wow, in the read, the world baseball classic right around the corner. And from what I've seen early on, you might want that Seekkeek promo.

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Only one other cat has done that. and cease. Interesting pairing there. Peralta has thrown a career high in innings pitch the last three consecutive seasons. Kind of love that, although he has never thrown 180 plus innings in a season in his career. Led the NL and wins last year. Some interesting, Trev, I don't know if you want anything to do with this. Freddie Peralta had the most walks to two, three, and four hitters amongst qualified starting pitchers, which I kind of love that, man.

like, hey, if there's a place to not mess around, don't mess around with those guys. And he also held right-handed batters to the lowest batting average last season. And he throws that fastball, the most with second most with runners in scoring position. So I don't know, man. Mets fans, you should blindly love this. You've got your opening day starter, question mark. I guess unless McLean becomes like Captain America. Um, but yeah.

And the whole moat, we said this before, the whole Mets rotation just feels better with everyone down one slot. A little Blake Snell action right there walking guys because when opponents bat just 135 against you with runners in scoring position, you know, maybe just like get rid of the guys that can take you deep. Yeah. Give me, give me that five six hitter, you know. Is Blake's still a hall of famer?

Whoa, here we go. Chris Rose. Chris. He wins another Cy Young, that's three? And what are we going to do? Okay. Here's a good little side venture. Gosh, dude.

I was thinking about that. I don't know. Someone put like a list out of like possible Hall of Famers and Blake Snell was on. I was like, you know what? Like if he wins another side young, three is crazy. Three, you kind of have to, right? I think so.

And Trump, you know what? Automatic Hall of Fame? I think you used to love this because it used to be Robbie Rye's claim to fame. He's got some gold on that page right now. 11.2Ks per 9 is like the best of any starting pitcher. So yeah, it is funny looking at the body of work here that Snellers, if he could get one more good full season in. But yeah, I don't know.

Are we Hall of Fame guys now? I don't think so. I'm not percentages. And I'm not Hall of Fame. Like, I don't know who's going to get in a Hall of Fame. Hall of pretty good. How was Twins Fest, dude? Well, Jake, it was a nice event.

But there's a lot of stuff going on in Minneapolis right now. Hey, yeah, let's stop shooting people. Yeah. Let's do that whole thing. A lot of people out in the streets kind of making their voices heard. Still a good turnout for Twinsfest. And it was good to see, you know, Twins Fest you get to see all the people, like real true fans come.

And people that I've known for 20 years, you know. I get to say hi to everybody, and I owe a lot to the people of Minneapolis. So it's nice to go out there and, you know, kind of put some smiles on people's faces. Flint's Fest, baby. Shout out Dustin Morse. I got my St. Paul hat on. Oh, that's nice. Where I grew up.

Shout out Dustin Morse? Yeah. Our guy. What about Mike Herman? What about Mike Urban? And Bert Blyleve and I sent you guys the pick. Easy with Bird. You know, Bert, bird's a sensitive topic.

for me. We had some good time. You know, you get around the old guys, which is, you know, the twins do a great job bringing alumni back. So, you know, Kent Herbex there, Tim Laudner, Roy Smalley, who by the way, is just the man. And you got Rod Carew, you got Tony O'Leave. And it's just funny to hear these guys talk about the game because it's obviously changed a ton. Yeah. I try to be the conduit between both eras. And it's getting harder and harder for me to do it, to convince these guys. I, uh, we might have to do like an old's day one day. Man, I saw, I saw my guy David Cohn.

He posted on Instagram. Uh, who was it? Oh, Bobby Shantz. Um, there's Trevin Burt. Classic bunnies. I think he nuttaped me right before that too. That's her black eleven years. in a nutshell. That's Bert.

David Cohen posts 100-year-old Bobby Shantz on his insist story. And, you know, just the best old man reaction you could find is like, oh, who's this young man? Anyways, speaking of young men, McKenzie Gore, one of the other starting pitchers that was rumored to be on the trade market was on the trade market. interesting prospect package if you're keeping track at home. Two years of McKenzie Gore, which is always one of the, you know, important details of these transactions.

McKenzie Gore goes from the Nats to your Texas Rangers, because of course they needed pitching. For five prospects, Gavin Thien Fine, I think he was like the 12th pick in the draft. And then Fitzgerald, Rosario Cabrero Ortiz. It was funny listening to some people talk about the prospect package. They're like Fitzgerald's a quick, quick riser. People really like them.

Like, okay, we'll find out. Gore joins Texas. His baseball page is a little more, I guess, wild than I remembered Coach Trev, because I remember him as a top prospect. I remember that washing off a little bit. And then I remember him being solid. And then you remember him breaking out last year, but the year end numbers don't look that way because the wheels fell off.

But I mean, as far as talented lefty arms go, I mean, that first 19 starts, first half of the season was electric. Yeah, there were a couple starts there where he looked like he had figured something out, a lot of swing and miss, very, I mean, a beautiful windup, beautiful, you know, pitch mix that he does have. But yes, the second half of the season was not good for him. And I think he slots in here to a, like, really nice rotation. You get DeGrom, Iovaldi, dogs, and then probably gore slotting into that

third slot. And then at the end, you have Jack Lighter, who can be an absolute stud. And then they're kind of figuring out that fifth spot, whether it's Jacob Latz, is Kumar Rock are going to get a shot to be the fifth guy there because he can be a stud too. Like there's a lot of potential in that starting rotation. And I posed a question to you. I was like, who are the Rangers? Like, what's up with at. Like what's going on there? 81 and 81 last year. I said the starting rotation has a chance be pretty damn good. Bullpen, I think they're still trying to figure that out. When aren't the Rangers figuring out a bullpen? That's fine. I don't mind that for them. And then we heard a little like Joel Sherman tweet about their middle infield last year, which was so strange. I don't know

if we want to bring it out because are we just like gossiping. But there was a Marcus Simeon, Corey Seeger situation going on. Obviously, Marcus Simeon's out. And Corey Seeger is still there. I thought that was, that's something to note, right? Like, 81, 81 season. And there were some weird stuff going on. We always talk about

like the Mets clubhouse issues. If there's something that arises here, I feel like it's fair game to talk about. Wasn't there another Texas Rangers clubhouse story? Was it Kevin Pilar who went there for a little bit? And he's just like, the clubhouse is whack. He did say that. Right.

So something. on winning. Something was clearly up. And yeah, I don't, again, it's tough to know where to point the finger, but I think, I guess in a way I'm happy, I'm happy. Um, you know, sometimes we talk about stuff that's not stats or not baseball and you wonder if it matters, but man, something I think about more and more every time is how much time these dudes spend together. If you're with people you don't like, bro, that, it's like an awful lifestyle. I don't. I know people don't want to hear that because of the dollar amounts, and I get that. But like, if you have to spend six months every other week on the road with people you don't like, dude, that's brutal.

Well, imagine you hate somebody, then you just have to get naked in front of them all the time. Like, you're, you're like so vulnerable everywhere in the clubhouse. Like, you have a, your chairs face each other. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like, you're in this room together. You can do, you can avoid people. If you really wants, you can avoid people.

But it's hard. Like you're still eating in the same little room. You know, you're still going into the same training room. Like I said, you got showers. They're communal. It ain't stalls. You're just in there. Pretty wild.

Like, that that's just accepted. Again, like, I don't mind kind of free spirit over here. It's awesome. It's awesome. Yeah, it's team bonding. It's just funny that like, in theory, this is where you work. If there was an accounting firm

where it was like, hey, we all shower together? Everyone would be like, whoa. So just because you're not everyone, you get to shower together. Not everyone, you'd be like, yeah. Yeah, I mean, I don't know. You'd love it. It's that's so, it actually sounds,

I understand how strange that sounds to say. Right. But it's like one of the best things we got going. It's, I don't know. there is something about like you're just there you are right no hiding in the shower it's a freeing feeling you know i'm gonna shower beer with the boys after a victory is like oh unmatched and look it is funny to say that out loud but it's true what am i supposed to do lie to you guys i will never do that i just i just think it is very funny that a is just a big communal shower room which

feels a little dated at this point, but everyone, again, end of the day, if you're like bopping with the boys, that's kind of a good time. And yeah, I also just think there is a little bit of irony that if any other non-athlete profession did that, you'd be like, whoa, all the, all the chefs got together before the shift and showered? I don't know. I think we need to, maybe we just need to rebrand it. I don't know. I don't know. I'm working on it. All right. Let's get back to the Rangers. The infield's interest in me, because you obviously have Corey Seeger, who's a stud, then around Tim, some guys that like kind of like, you know, need to kind of figure it out at the big league level, I would say, like, you know, what's Jake Berger going to give you at first base?

What's Josh Young going to give you at third base? Like there's definitely potential there for some offense. You know, Josh Smith has been pretty damn good. He's at second base. And, you You kind of have, like, I think that's a pretty good infield right there. If things all go correctly and right and everyone's healthy and makes some strides at the plate, that's good. Outfields like some young guys, you feel like be pretty good. Nimmo's going to be out there in right field. You know, is Evan Carter your center fielder?

Is Wyatt Langford your center fielder? Like, those guys are obviously in the mix and deciding where they're going to be is going to be interesting. But overall, you look at the roster. You're like, okay, like, know the names. These guys, most of them have had big league success at some point. It's can everyone kind of get it going in the same year? And like, there's a chance that they can. I mentioned 81 and 81 last year.

If you bump that up by five games, you're in the playoffs. Yeah, I mean, it's, it's interesting because the, the corner outfield, if it's Nimmo in Langford, I'd have to go around the league, but that feels like as stable as a corner outfield as you can kind of put together. Evan Carter, when he played last year, contributed, and he's still 23. And Corey Seeger remains one of the best players in baseball that kind of gets overlooked just to, I don't know, I just think his injury, missing time, but like, that's six B-Worn about 100 games last year that if he can play 140, you'd like to think, Jock, it's not done. Like, he just had a bad year of baseballitis, but you never know. that you look around the field

and it's part of the problem with the Texas Rangers. They finished 81 and 81 that yeah, you start spinning the clubhouse stuff in almost an optimistic way for this season. Like if that was part of the problem in a bad case of the don't hits, like this lineup should hit more than they did last year. 87 games got you into the playoffs last year

so they'd have to improve by six. Yeah, and it's almost, I don't know, maybe this is just weird baseball brain, but it feels like the offense should tick up. It feels like it should be tough for that rotation to be, like, number one starting pitching ERA last year. Yeah, and their relief pitching numbers are great, too. They're great.

Like, the names don't jump off the screen, but they perform last year, and maybe the Texas Rangers deserve a little more credit for just their, when you think of pitching teams in baseball, you don't jump to Texas, but maybe they are, man. although Avaldi and de Grom at the top probably deserve a lot more love. Nate Dogg, 22 starts last year, 0173.

I've been telling people about this guy. He's a sick puppy, huh? And yeah, you gotta love Jack Leiter's potential and what he showed in his first full season. So that AOL West, man, it's fun. Like the Mariners obviously have a staff, themselves now. The Astros still have a lot of talent. The athletics aren't an easy out. The Angels had one of the most Angels off seasons you've ever seen. The names they brought in.

These Texas Rangers relievers, I mean, yeah, Sean Armstrong last year to a 231 and 74 innings. Hobie Milner, you know, kind of doing his role out there. Love me some Hobie Milner. Then you have Jacob Webb. Robert Garcia, Chris Martin at 39, still slaying in that pill. We mentioned Lats kind of being in and out of the rotation. Okay. All right. Go get him. I actually had to ask me anything, which is like, that's your thing, but I did it on the plane the other day.

And someone asked me, who's going to win the West? I said, why not the Rangers? Talent-wise, it shouldn't be surprising. People are like, because the Mariners exist. I'm like, that's true. Yeah, mariners are pretty good. That Robert Garcia trade, man. That was easy for us to be like, you traded Nathaniel Lowe, potential All-Star first basement,

and look where that landed. Chris Young, smart former baseball players in front offices. I want that petition to go on. Stanford men. Let's see. I think we've got to talk some Cody Bohn. I guess maybe we should talk a little nationals too. And it's brought to you by Factor.

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Offer only valid for new Factor customers with code and qualifying auto renewing subscription purchase. Make healthier eating easier with Factor. Dude, actually, I kind of need to rewind. We got caught up in the showers and stuff. We didn't talk too much about Gore. Like, where are you at with him as a player? Because it felt like the breakout happened. You look at the end of your stats and clearly the wheels fell off.

And then if you look at his career numbers, like he's tech. technically been like a slightly below average pitcher, but some of that goes back to him being, you know, a young pup with the Padres and Nats figuring it out. When you, when you show like flashes like he did in the beginning of the season, you know what's in there. So then it's up to the organization,

tinker with the pitch mix, you know, decide like a plan of attack for him. So the Rangers are going to have to do that and see if they can get the best version of him. But I think, I think they're just banking on, We got some years of control. This guy's in his prime right now, you know, his age 27 season.

And like I said, he has the armed talent. So let's all these organizations think they're the smartest. Maybe not all of them think that. But most of them think that they are. There's some that are like, we know. We got some work to do. I think that's what it is. You bank on your player development, your pitching factory, whatever you're, you know,

whatever you're trying to do. and then you say, we're going to make this guy the best version of himself. And if they can do that, they're getting, you know, a knee or, like,

ace type of guy, like we saw in the beginning of the last season. Yeah, the talent- You're jumping at the potential. The eye test pass, and again, when you look at the splits

from last year, I don't know if it was injury or if he just ran out of, I mean, he went on the aisle at the end of August due to shoulder inflammation, which that's just, like, tired, right?

his first 19 starts 110 innings of 302 ERA more strikeouts than innings pitched by like a lot like yeah there's not a lot of guys that have that ability in there so if you're Texas you hope he kind of got built up last year and you can ride that out for two years on the national side and this is kind of what we did and we giggled about it through the year because we wanted to be excited for the Nats last year and when you actually looked at the roster you're like damn there's there's some holes and they're like they're rebuilt again when they were just rebuilding. So that that stinks if you're a Nats fan. And yeah, I thought it was interesting. Their new GM supposedly came over from Boston. And they really wanted find the headliner in the draft. And he got taken a couple picks before. So this guy left Boston goes to the Nats. And his first move is like, give me that guy. So that's, that's some video game stuff right there, man. Like we, I want him. Jake, this is this. This is, this. is shaping up to be like a movie and i don't know what kind of movie like a buddy movie like matt damon and ben stiller or something that's not who it is they're out ben affleck

i just watched that movie on netflix it was okay um the new president of baseball ops is paul to boney he's running the show he's 35 the new general manager annie kalambi is 31 their manager Buterra is how old, 28th or something? Jeez. Like, what are we doing here? Like, in, I don't mean that in a, in a bad way. But like, what? Yeah, I don't.

That's awfully young. And you know what? I'll say this. My team, Whose House, Rams House, Sean McVeigh came over at 30 years old. And a lot of people laughed at them. But he's obviously turned himself into,

one of the best coaches, if not the best coach in the NFL. Maybe we're seeing that here. I don't know. Yeah, I guess that's really young, Jake. That's really young. That's a young collection. You'd love to be like, oh, yeah, they brought in the wonderkin. And then it's also, you know, there's some old head.

Dumbrowski's doing his retirement gig, like guiding or something. He still runs the Phillies. So bad example. But yeah, and hey, man, for every, for every Sean McVeigh, there's, you know, do people remember when Lane Kiffin was the Raiders coach and like how much of a disaster that was? So, you know, Josh McDaniels when he was the one, maybe the Raiders are the problem in hindsight. Can I give you a quote? Please. This is the most like I just took over an organization quote ever. I'm stepping into this role with a clear vision. That vision is to be the highest performing organization in all of sports. I want to help build something that becomes the envy. of all of sports. That's a direct quote. That's not currently where the Nats are at.

I think something to watch during the season. Oh, he's a Notre Dame guy. Oh, the Colton Domas. February 8th is his birthday. We're doing a deep dive on Paul Toboni right now. I'll be honest. The name Toboni cracks me up. Okay.

CJ Abrams. They were reportedly shopping him in the off season. So he'd that someone, if your team's looking for an upgrade during the season or maybe coming up, that could be on the table. He's still 25. And yeah, man, that whole roster is young, the whole rotation. I mean, McKenzie Gore was kind of the guy that stood out that it might be a tough one in the nation's capital.

And the other thing, I can't wrap my head around. I used to be pretty harsh on the grab as many prospects as you can trade packages, but also, I don't know. Like maybe you should just give yourself the most lottery tickets because baseball, we still have no clue, man. Like the top five prospects, yes, those guys have been clicking at a decent rate, but also you just don't know. Yeah, I saw there was a chart someone did. He went like all the way back into the whenever the top 100 prospect list have started, whenever that was. So I'm assuming 90s or something like that.

And he's like, if you get a consensus. this top 100 player, like the chances of them becoming, becoming like regular big leaguers to All-Star to MVP, like level, like that grouping of type of player is astronomically better than if they're not. So like, you just, I mean, which makes sense, obviously, but you're right, like there is levels in that. There is the regular Big Linger who's gonna be a guy,

is gonna contribute to be decent, and then there's the All-Stars, then there's the NBA. and obviously they get less and less, but I see what you're saying. I think I'd rather go still consensus top than a bunch of lottery tickets. And I don't, and I think it is changing where teams, again, they just think they're smarter than everybody else and they have the data. And this guy's swing playing works for what we're trying to do.

And it's like, okay, well, we'll see. Yeah, and it's just baseball is in a way. I think Rosario, the pitcher, like I think he throws a hundred, but he had. TJ already and it's just, I think baseball doesn't know what to do with those guys. It's like that, I don't know, we'll find out in the next handful of years in the nation's capital trying to be the best. I guess the goal should be to be the best franchise, but I don't, that's not what they've been, that's not what they've been giving. And yeah, wow, Texas Rangers. I think the hype train might have started for us.

Okay, let's go to my guy, Bell. Wow, how about five years, $162 million being 40 minutes or so into the episode? Cody comes back to the Yankees. The Yankees traded with the Cubbies last year to bring him in, basically just to pay him. You know, Cody had a really strong 23. He kind of faded a little bit in 24, putting together a really nice season with the Yankees. watching him play every day was a treat. He's a five-tool player.

He can play every outfield spot. It did get to a weird spot in the media that the Yankees were being public and Boris was being public. You know, the 155 number had been thrown out for a little bit. Boris was talking 10 years. As a Yankee fan, I like the deal. Full no trade clause. Cody has opt-outs after year two and three. so if he puts up another big boy season, he could go.

And, yeah, man, you know, what the Yankees get criticized for, like not playing baseball. Cody Bellinger, you know, everything happens comma after Judge. He's their best all-around baseball player. Yes, and I was thinking about this. Like, is it the best outfield in baseball? It's been the past couple years. If Trent Grisham is hitting 30 homers for you,

and obviously Aaron Judge is like five players in one, and then Cody doing this thing out there in left field. Like, I think there's, who else is there? I mean, is there like the Chicago Cubs, I guess? Maybe not. Cubbies, it feels like the Dodgers always pop up. If Julio can get some help, yeah, we, position unit draft is coming up. Yeah, I mean, I'm sorry to side attract us, I was just thinking that.

You're good. It's got to be the best outfield in baseball. I mean, Aaron Judges makes it that way. Tatis Merrill and But yeah Okay, all right Tatees posted an incredible Instagram post yesterday

He was basically naked In every single picture Really? Yeah He's like climbing mountains scuba diving He's like, you know Thirst trap after a thirst trap

It was like Dalton Feeley on IG It was crazy Feels like Fernando He went straight to it Oh yeah I mean Oh Rob, get that on the screen Hell yeah, I'm telling you, dude.

That's not even the worst one. Hey, I got to be honest. You know, I guess there was a time when I showed a lot more skin on the gram. Maybe I'll get back in the game. If I looked like Tatis, yeah, I wouldn't. There, that's, there it is. That's, I mean, that's not safe for work. I think I was perusing IG in my sweet yesterday up in Lumen Field.

I was like, I got to put this away. You might be seeing what I'm looking at. Olivia, don't look over it. here. Okay. I guess coach, again, if you have no idea, we do a show Talking Yanks, where we talked about this a lot. And things you should know about Belly are the best left-handed hitter versus lefties last year. Him and Schwabber did some amazing stats. He battles and it bats. That's really fun. He's like one of, he changes his approach. He fouls off pitches and two strike accounts. it's honestly refreshing.

But it also, it brings the Yankees back to kind of where they were last year. Like, the Yankees still haven't really added someone from outside of the org. And I guess this is where the Yankee fandom comes in. Like, the Yankees never felt like a threat to win the World Series last year. And as Aaron Judge turns 34, Cole is coming back at some point this year, turning 35. So that can feel different. But, you know, the Yanks,

the Yanks offense has not changed. And I, how much of that was Judge? Can Trent Grisham run it back? Like, I don't know. I guess I clearly have questions. I think I do too. But again, you look at the overall numbers. And yeah, Judge is a step.

But take Judge out of the equation. They still had a pretty deep a lineup last year. I mean, yeah, it is, yeah, it is a lot. Can some of these guys run it. back, you know, the track records aren't exactly all there for them, but they showed they can do at the big, big level. I think second half Yankees, when you get Rodon and Cole in there, we'll see what they look like. I'm banking on these guys, man. You're going to have a hell of a rotation. Those guys come back. You got freed, Cole, Rodon, Schlittler looks nasty,

and then the back end, like, you have a bunch of different options there. So it's like, to me, second half Yankees are a problem. Like, judge is going to be judged. There's no doubt. Like, he's going to be that guy. So you have that starting point already. And again, like, it just seems to me, like, I get what you're saying, too.

And sometimes I think that way about the Yankees. Like, are like, are they that good. But like, they are. So I think you might be a little too close to situation, Pat. Because I'm thinking second half Yankees are going to be a problem. Yeah, I guess something, A, I mean, hey, the Blue Jays were great last year. I guess in a way there shouldn't be shame in that,

but in a way there should be shame in that. The bottom of the lineup offensively looks like it could get a little thin. I guess, you know, again, this is being on the Yankee standard and not being able to fully project injuries or performance. You know, Spencer Strider wasn't great last year, his coming off Tommy John year, that it'll be interesting. to see what version of Garrett Cole does come back.

But if Schlittler's that guy, again, the Yankees usually roll a good team out there, but it's, I don't know, man, I don't know if you saw, but Rizzo gave the judge's intro speech at the baseball writers of America to give him his MVP trophy. And it was, it was real, like, we talked about it a lot on talking Yanks. When Rizzo came over, I think the comparison, I think the comparison I used was Rizzo whenever he was on a baseball team, he was the best player or kind of like had an argument to be the best player. And when he joined the Yankees and saw a judge, I think it was the first time that he was like, holy smokes. Like, what is this? And they just get along.

Like they're genuinely friends. Like their dogs have playdates. Their wives hang out. I mean, I think Rizzo called him, you know, the best player to ever put on the pinstripes, which, okay, we can save that for Chris Rose another time. But also, he's 34. He doesn't have a ring. Been to one world series. Like, that conversation is only going to get louder, and I'm not excited for it. Shout to Max Fried for his season last year. Max Fried, dude. That guy. He is like the humble king.

Just doesn't even know how good looking he is. Like one of those guys. Like there's a chance he's the devil. Oh, what? He's an angel. He's literally an angel. Exactly. Like he's the, you know, he's the handsome lefty.

He's unassuming. But I don't know, man. Like, it's almost too good. I watched the movie Sinners. You watch that yet? Sure have. And I liked it. People were telling me,

let's say it kind of weird. I liked it a lot. I liked it. And it wasn't as like people, like, people need to relax on like Josh Allen. That wasn't even that bad of a scene. Okay.

Sinner, spoilers incoming. No, everyone knows. Well, yeah, the spit in the mouth scene, uh,

kind of iconic from the movie and just where our society's at. Um, yeah, I don't know. I've always thought that Hollywood is just one big orgy. that like, I don't know, people are making out and pretending to banging movies. Anyways, I got off the track. Sinners, I thought it was great.

I like that they didn't take the ending too seriously. And yeah, the different notes and things they touched on, I guess it got nominated for like the most Oscars or something like that ever. And it didn't feel that way watching it originally, but I very much enjoyed it. I liked it a lot. The ending had a little Django Unchained, which is an amazing movie. Top three movie for me. So, easy.

Easy. When Jamie Fox comes out in the all blue outfit in that movie, it's just the best, the best. Dude, Jamie Fox, Christoph, that's, it could be my favorite movie. I, um, I went through a phase. I was watching that like once a month, which that's- Shout out Broom Hilda. Brumhilda. John Hill, when they're wearing the masks, dude.

that is so funny to have that in that movie. I love it. That's Yankee talk. Cody Bellinger's a Yankee. Yeah, sweet angel. Don't ever call him the devil again. He's so angelic that he might be the devil, you know?

No, no, I don't know. You want to call Jack Flaherty that? Fine. He's got a little bit of that in him. Snaps for Jack Flaherty. him in a PCA got the numbers retired at Harvard Westlake over the whack-ass school see house go Celts I actually texted Jack I said that's cool you got your jersey retired but you never would have beat my team's like 0304 Celts trump you I love that for you yeah I guess

final Yankee notes Yankee fans kind of want them to do one more mood like right now Jason Dominguez kind of doesn't have a sponsor but usually, you know, Stanton's at D.H. He usually has some IL time. It'll be interesting. They've got too legitimate, or Dominguez showed a lot as a rookie. And then if they do have depth at pitching come midseason, can they trade from that?

What's everything looking like? What's that ALE East looking like, man? Because J's are here, Red Sox are here, Orioles should be back. Sneaky ALE and Mets episodes. today. How about that? And some centers, of course. You got anything else, Coach Treve? No. Yeah. God. Should have been Broncos. Should have been Broncos Rams. We should have been going to the game. We could have been.

And then they went to Napa right after. I've never seen a redwood. Oh my gosh. You would love it. I know. You would love a redwood. Yeah, dude. When's a good Napa season? Like pretty much any time. October, I think, is when they do the harvest and stuff. I try to do that. Tough for us, huh? A little tough for me, yeah. Anytime, bro. Okay. Yeah, I really want to see a ripwood.

Always a good time to go to Napa. Okay. I'll hook you up. I got connections up there. For that and other life advice, tune in to Trevor Plouffe. Myself, shout out to Rob Chiracroko, producing from home. a snowstorm, kids locked in the house. Dalton Feeley and his Tatis thirst trap setting up the sheet for us. We will be back Wednesday.

We'll see what we got going on or if the baseball world provides us with some new news. Jose Ramirez, just awesome. It's awesome. We didn't really talk about Jose Ramirez. Good job. Yeah, I mean, he's just... Get your paper, baby. What's in his basement again?

I feel like he's like into collectibles, like a... Like not a... Maybe... The biggest clothing collection you've ever seen. Oh, yeah.