Talkin' Baseball (MLB Podcast) - Orioles Move Into First & Kelenic Kicks the Cooler | 691

Episode Date: July 21, 2023

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Starting point is 00:00:01 Hello and welcome to Talking Baseball. There's a new Beast of the East, the Birds, Rangers are heart. Are Trev's Cardinals back? Let's talk. Oh. Hello and welcome to Talking Baseball, presenting you by Seek. Myself, Jake Storelli, normally don't say my full real name. Try to keep it hidden.
Starting point is 00:00:38 Live a very secretive life. David Mendelssohn, Trevor Plouf. Not Trevor Pluff. Come in live from. Oh. MC studios out west. He's back home. You could tell by the life on his face that he's back home with his family in studio, probably a weird weekend in the Hollywood Hills coming.
Starting point is 00:01:03 And Trev, as we navigate these two and a half weeks of the season that we're trying to rename and we might officially do that this episode. How are you doing, Big Swoll? What an introduction. right there. Okay. I am happy to be home, man. I am happy to see my family. I had a great morning already. As you know, I told you about some of it. I'm actually wearing this perforated shirt. So there's like a little bit of nudity. Yeah. In this episode, we might have to tag that Bieber's like just to let people know. Yeah. I think that's what you have to do. I don't know. Yeah, dude,
Starting point is 00:01:39 I'm excited to talk some ball. A lot of things have happened. The Orioles are in first place. Yes. I think Chris Rose asked me that on baseball today like will the rays ever relinquished first place in the AL East? And I think I said no. I said I think Baltimore might get close, but I didn't think it would happen. The rays are struggling.
Starting point is 00:01:59 Baltimore a surgeon. We might hear from a player on the Baltimore Orioles. I bet you can guess who it is. Our best friend. Yeah, man. How are you doing? You look good. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:02:13 We both have our All-Star stuff on. This is a. I think this is one of the few days that you and I could do an outfit swap, Trev. Like, I think I could throw on the see-through shirt with the white cap and you could throw on our JM All-Star shirt. This is, we don't normally line up fashion-wise. I think we have it today. There's a swap coming later, too.
Starting point is 00:02:35 There is a swap coming later in the episode. I'm excited to talk ball, Trev, because you're, Emotions are high. Whether it's the birds taking first place, Tampa having the worst July in baseball, your Rangers are back. Cardinals are showing signs of light like just too late, man. Come on.
Starting point is 00:03:04 And, you know, we talked about a lot last episode, like, my Yankees are in as dark of a place that they've been in about 30, 33 years. So I don't know, man. I think we might just have to start talking ball. You know, you saw that Twins Mariners series everyone's talking about. The juxtaposition of Yankees fandom and Twins fandom is hilarious. Twins, everyone's happy.
Starting point is 00:03:36 Two games over 500, first place in the Central. Things are good. Yankees. A half game up on the twins in the record. and you guys are losing your mind. Yes. You're like beefing with the manager of the Yankees. You're beefing with Aaron Boone.
Starting point is 00:03:53 I'm beefing with Buster only. What's happening? Yeah, you and Buster in our tough place. We're not beefing with Boone. We actually, the social clips make it seem worse. Like we had a really good conversation with Aaron Boone this week and like everyone walked away. You mocked, you mocked Aaron Boone with a tweet. Which tweet?
Starting point is 00:04:14 The authenticity? No, no, no, no, no, no. Oh, yeah. Well, when you lie, I'll call you out, dude. You didn't think about walking Shohei Otani after you intentionally walked him the abat before. And then the next game, you walked him four times. Trev?
Starting point is 00:04:33 Are you the manager of the Yankees? I don't know. They tend to hire from the media. You're like that guy that told Tony the Rousseau. at a pinch run. I mean, man, Tony was some high spots
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Starting point is 00:06:32 Thank you Miracle made Travis Friday So we talk Is that Interleague first? I don't know You just make it up So just like pick one, bro. Let's do some National League baseball.
Starting point is 00:06:47 We are starting out with two darlings of this MLB season. The San Francisco Giants and the Cincinnati Reds, they end up splitting four. Giants get that first game in extras. A wild 11-10. That was the day that everyone was putting up double-digit runs around baseball. What's that about? Giants won the first two,
Starting point is 00:07:12 and then the Reds win the next two. Andrew Abbott, a guy guy? Eight innings, one hit, my goodness. And he wasn't even the guy throwing the hardest on the field because Ellie Day La Cruz is breaking every infield throwing record ever as he throws out a guy at the plate. How about this, man? These two teams flex their muscles a little bit.
Starting point is 00:07:36 They end up split in a four-gamer. We'll get our noses in there. And, oh, boy, a tale of two kitties. The Marlins. The Cardinals, and the Cardinals sweep them. 6452-6-4 Cardinals. I don't know, man. I think it's a little, too little too late.
Starting point is 00:07:58 Is this changing Miami's treadline season? One of the names that got thrown out for it. Nolan Aronado with the walk-off in game two. He has himself a big series, multi-hits in every game. Fish, I don't know. Dylan Carlson. A lot of trade rumors around him. He had a big day at the office.
Starting point is 00:08:19 Cardinals, we want to believe, but I don't, it's too late. Cubs take two out of three from the Nationals as they're trying to stay alive in whatever. They're trying to stay alive in. Nats, Hebert Rees, Jamer, upping his stock in Stone Garrett in that first game. But our guy, guy, Ian Hap, and the second, Talkman, Horner, Suzuki, sure. Cubs, they take two out of three from the Nats. What does it mean for them? Now, Treb, you want to talk about high-level baseball.
Starting point is 00:08:53 Everyone wants to bury my snakes, but they went to ATL, and they took two out of three, almost three out of three. They won a 16 to 13 game the first night. Absolute chaos. First time the snakes have won a game where they've given up 13 runs. A silly stat that doesn't matter, but matter. And then they're positioned to get the sweep, but the Braves are just built Diffy. Matt Olson dating my daughter, you might hear about him later.
Starting point is 00:09:24 Young Thick Austin Riley, they get it done on that last game. But Christian Walker, Corbyn Carroll, these snakes, man, big series for them can change the momentum of their season a little bit. And another team with the Juice Treb, the Milwaukee Brewers, Algonquin for good baseball. They take two out of three from the Phillies. Phillies won that first game. His name was Nola, Trey Turner, Stott, get it done. How about Corbin Burns in the last game? Eight innings pitch, zero and runs, 10Ks.
Starting point is 00:10:01 His stats since visiting the John Boy Media office, huh? Pretty, pretty good. Brewer is playing a really good brand of baseball right now. Haven't dropped a cent since June 21st. That's about a month. Yelly is going. Oh, you know that puts lead in our pencil. And that is what happened in National League baseball.
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Starting point is 00:10:55 And the Atlanta Braves, they still very much control the East because the Phillies and the Marlins are tied at second place, 10 and a half back of them. Yo. Mets are 45 and 51, Nats, yep. The Milwaukee Brewers, 54 and 43, okay. Two and a half up on the Cincinnati. Natty Reds. The Cubs, same records as the Mets. How funny is that? And they're a game and a half
Starting point is 00:11:26 up on the Cardinals by the trade deadline. Could the Cardinals jump the Cubs and does it mean anything? I pray tell it does not as of now. Pirates, 42 and 54. Dodgers are in first place at 55 and 40. The snakes and the Giants, two games back, same record. Padres, 46 and 51. That 51, that 51. one in the loss column is fun for the National League Mets, Cubs, and Giants, or Padres, excuse me, and the rocks are back there too. So Trevor, in the National League, we are Cronpod. You yelled at me last episode because I did skip one. It was an accident.
Starting point is 00:12:09 I hope I'm forgiven. We get to start off with two fun ones. The Reds and Giants, it ends up being a split for four. So, I mean, you know, when we. start getting into our baseball terms like, oh, you know, these two teams bad. Like, we do that song and dance all day. I kind of want to highlight some of the dudes in this series because there were a lot of dudes in this series.
Starting point is 00:12:33 There was. And, you know, there's a couple guys that, you know, we challenged specifically for the Reds to kind of like step it up. We talked about, you know, them, what are they going to do with the deadline? Chris Roasting, Shohey Otani is going there. So that's good. We'll start there. but Graham Ashcraft
Starting point is 00:12:50 you know as you mentioned I believe in your rundown has been really really good over his last four starts he has another good one here with a six in a six inch pitch two run runs
Starting point is 00:13:00 the quality start and then Abbott has been great yeah so you know this is this could be a potential playoff a matchup type series and it kind of played out that way
Starting point is 00:13:14 with the Giants you know getting some timely hitting jock doing his thing there was a lot of rain in this series a lot of weird weather stuff going on. But like you mentioned, there was some good pitching, timely hitting. Logan Webb in the first game, he goes seven. He's a freaking animal. I asked yesterday, and you're going to hear me reference,
Starting point is 00:13:37 the tweet I put out yesterday said, tell me something about your team. And the Giants fans who respond to it, they only want to talk about one guy. It's Patrick Bailey. Yeah. They talk about him defensively. They talk about him offensive. They talk about the spark that he's brought to this team. And you mentioned the standings there.
Starting point is 00:13:53 You know, they're two games back of the division right now. This Giants team is surging, man. And, you know, for good reason. If you look around their roster, it's what we always talk about with them. They just have a bunch of above average ballplayers throughout the roster. And they continue to do it. And splitting a four game set is kind of what you hope for on the road, to be honest with you. Very difficult to go out and win three out of four.
Starting point is 00:14:16 So Giants did what they did. needed to do. And again, I could see that matchup happening in the playoffs, which I don't think anyone would have believed at the beginning of the season. Yeah. Hitting some guys on both sides real quick in that second game, the 1110 game, what ends up being the winning run, a Casey Schmidt RBI walk. So that made it 118 at the time and the Reds battled back. Wilmer Flores has a big series. Go look at his baseball reference page. A really nice career. He's the one that ends up getting mowed down on our guy, Will Benson to Ellie Day La Cruz relay. That's some pretty baseball. I think Ellie hit, I think it was 99.8 on the relay throw, which, by the way, if you want to do a late
Starting point is 00:15:05 night Jake episode sometime, you think that guy couldn't be a little two-way reliever if he needed to be? You think if we trained him a little bit, you think he couldn't throw a couple heaters? Anyways, a guy that can and is the L.E. De La Cruz of pitching, Camilo Duval, has an argument for being one of the best relievers in baseball this season. He gets his 30th save and 32 chances this year. Yo! And then flipping back over to the Reds. Encarnacion Strand, pinch-hit three-run homer in the fifth inning.
Starting point is 00:15:40 How you doing, kid? They just got another one of those. Yeah, they got a, they've got another one of those going on. It's, I mean, there's so much to like on both sides here. And yeah, like, what's Andrew Abbott the rest of the year? I don't know, but he's been, the 24-year-old's been incredible for those reds. So, yeah, like I started, end of the day, two out of four, you can't really say either team walks away super mad or super happy. but both of those teams, man, are so impressive right now.
Starting point is 00:16:18 It's just good baseball. Yeah. You want to do a little in an interesting plot twist, and I don't know if it can be labeled the same way exactly. The Cardinals sweep the Marlins, which if you had told us before the season that, you know, late July, the Cardinal sweep the Marlins, we might have said like, wow, was that the death of,
Starting point is 00:16:43 punch to the Marlins. Like, did that take, are they going to trade some guys away? Obviously, the season has led to a lot different results. And I don't know. Does this mean anything to you? Is this more so a bad sign for the Marlins that have walked a lot tighter of a rope this year between one-run games and things like that? Because the Cardinals, it's hard to get the sauce or energy going for
Starting point is 00:17:13 them at all. It is a little late, I believe, for them. Yes. Six straight wins, I believe. They're eight and a half back of anything. I believe the wild card. So it's, there's a lot of room to make out. I'm not saying they can't do it, but like if you're like, they're set on trading two of their starting pitchers. So. And I know what, I know what they've said is we want to bring back pitching for our pitching. But I just, it doesn't make. any sense to me. So it's curious because, look, dude, their lineup is going.
Starting point is 00:17:53 Aronado had a banger of a series, but if you stack up their OPS pluses on baseball reference, they have eight dudes with 100 or better OPS plus. This is the offense that, you know, we thought they could have. Now, defensively, I don't know if the numbers are rating them better as of late. I know they were trying to make some adjustments there.
Starting point is 00:18:14 That was a big reason why. they had struggled early on. There was some stuff going on there with the no shifting and affected them. Although, man, I got to be honest with you. Like, I understand you can't put an outfielder, or excuse me, an infielder over in like short right field. So you can't shift that way. But like I watched the twins play ball and they shift.
Starting point is 00:18:35 It looks like a shift. Like second base where a shortstop way over by the bag. And like it's there's plenty of a. To make your point, There's teams that are still performing defensive analytically by putting guys in the right position. So, yeah, you can still do things. Yeah, I don't know what happened. I'm very, like, I don't know why they rated so poorly and like what's going on with that in their organization.
Starting point is 00:19:01 But like, I think this is more of the team like they're supposed to be. They ran in some weird stuff at the beginning of the year, like in the clubhouse and they had some underperformers. But I mean, Aeronado is going off. Goldschman's going off, obviously. But then you have Donovan, Gorman. I mean, Walker, since he's come up, has been really good. It's, they have a good team, dude. And almost like too many good players.
Starting point is 00:19:29 And I think one of the- I know they've came out to say they're selling, but- Another underlying thing here is, whenever we were originally circling back on this, their starting rotation hadn't been good. And they've been getting some efforts recently. you know, Michaelis, Montgomery, even Matt's Flaherty. Yeah, if you're a Cardinals fan, I think you've got to be punching air a little bit
Starting point is 00:19:56 because it's like, you know, if this happened even three weeks ago, you'd be feeling a lot better. I don't know. I think the word we're going to end up saying a lot in the next week and a half is retooling. And I think if you're the Cardinals, you still have to do that. Like, you know, I know a lot of teams are interested in Dylan Carlson, and he doesn't necessarily have a spot in the lineup right now. So, you know, we mentioned their rental pitchers,
Starting point is 00:20:24 whether it's a Flaherty or Montgomery. You know, I don't know if they think Montgomery has a chance to resign or stay. You know, it seems like Flaherty really wants to test free agency and move on. That, I don't know, this team will retool, and it's going to be, I give my speech all the first two months of the season, and it's kind of lame, and I don't necessarily love it sometimes. But in the first two months of the season, if you go on like a 10-game winner,
Starting point is 00:20:52 that changes your, you know, basically changes your whole season outlook. They've won six right now. We're leading up to the deadline. They're changing their narrative in the slightest bit. I don't know. We're nine days away from the deadline. This is crunch time for them.
Starting point is 00:21:11 I think if you're a Cardinals fan, this is the way I would, the way I see, at least from the outside looking in, is if you're saying to yourself, okay, 2023 might be a lost season, but like we still have the pieces for next year. This is showing you that that's true. So if you do end up trading,
Starting point is 00:21:32 I don't know, man. It's crazy to me to think about a Cardinals team given up on the year. It just doesn't happen. Right. That's where, like that hard sell ain't coming. And they've already come out and ruled that out. Like, you know, Aeronado's not,
Starting point is 00:21:46 really on the table. Like Goldie's not on the table. You know, I, you know, I've seen Paul DeYoung rumors, and I've seen, you know, Carlson or Burleson, like, you know, they're going to shake it up. They have to. They put themselves in that position, but I don't know. They've got a little roadie coming up. Cubbies who they could jump in the standings if they take care of their business there. And then my snakes. And then they host the Cubs for four. So, um, Cubs and Cardinals about to very much decide their deadline, although they should both probably be thinking of the future. And then on the other side of this, Treve,
Starting point is 00:22:26 if you're the Marlins, Brian De La Cruz had himself a nice series, stop the bleeding. You host Colorado, you know, by the way, the pesky rocks coming out of the break, but they're a different team in Cores. You host Colorado. And don't make the one-run concerns and everything that we've raised our eyebrows about Miami become too real. And losing a lot of close games as of lately.
Starting point is 00:23:01 They've lost six in a row. Is that what it is? L6. They lost all their games coming out of the break? L-6, yeah. Not great. Eish. Not what they wanted out of the break.
Starting point is 00:23:15 Two runs, five runs, four runs. four runs, two runs, four runs. That's how you lose six out of the break. I mean, honestly, you have to be perfect defensively and with your pitching. That means that's always been the issue. Six out of the break is tough. They're still in the wild card,
Starting point is 00:23:34 a spot in the wild card. It's hard to talk about these teams without being like, dude, what are they going to do? I feel like, especially for a team like this that's in a playoff spot that knows what it's glaring weaknesses. is what do you do to address it? And I know there's a ton of names out there,
Starting point is 00:23:54 but you've got to make a deal. You could talk about it all you want, but unless you actually go get somebody, what are we doing? Yeah, and right now the N.O. Wild Card is interesting. I do the standings updates after the burns. Man, right now, I think Phillies and Marlins are tied for the last wild card spot. So that's interesting.
Starting point is 00:24:18 And I, you know, if you're being honest with any baseball fan, you're picking the Phillies over the Marlins the rest of the way. Just recent history. The Reds, we, you know, we thought those teams were battling for the Central. The Reds are a game back of those teams. And I think if someone made you pick between the Reds and the Fish, I think people are picking the fish, or excuse me, the Reds. And then where the NL, and I hope something does happen.
Starting point is 00:24:47 happen. If those Padres or Mets could put on a crazy stretch and get back in the mix, I'm not saying I believe in that, but it would make that NL wildcard. Very juicy. Fishies. Let's win one. Analytics. Jorge Saler, who's, I guess, been struggling a little bit as of late. The last 14 days, 675 OPS, he's having a lot. He's having a lot. a really good year. I didn't know the power numbers were like that. Yeah. This year. Yeah. Holy.
Starting point is 00:25:26 24 home runs. Already driven in 53. Okay. Sandy. Owen 3 in his last four starts. And a little shout at Miami's third base coach, Jody Reed. We have some connections to Miami staff that we have totally forgotten about and haven't tapped into this year, which feels like a miss on us. Not at all. Yeah. Your boy, John Jay.
Starting point is 00:25:50 It'd be a fun team to tap into. Keep A. Jody Reed got hit a broken leg on a foul ball. That sucks. That sucks. So get better. Cubs Nats, Treve.
Starting point is 00:26:06 I don't have much to add on this. We know where the Nats are at. We're kind of waiting to see where their trade season lands. You'd assume the same for the Cubs. I know, you know, I follow a couple Cubs accounts and they're basically day by day hoping this team gets hot and can fend off trading a belly. You know, those are just some Cubs accounts I follow.
Starting point is 00:26:30 So I don't know. I mean, in a way they take care of their business in a series against the Nats that you, if they were losing, we'd be, and it's so crazy. That's the beauty of this time of year that we're trying to rename. If the Cubs had lost this, we'd be talking landing spots for belly,
Starting point is 00:26:47 and all of that. And I still think we're gonna, but, you know, the Cubs Faithful want to fight and they're looking at their schedule and they see seven against St. Louis and two against the White Sox that if they put together a nice week and a half,
Starting point is 00:27:02 they might be able to fight it off. I don't know, ma'am. I don't think so. I think it's too little too late for them as well, bro. Seven games back in the wild card even further back in their own division. It's, you've signed Belli to a one-year-old.
Starting point is 00:27:17 deal to trade him if he had a good year. Yes. And he's having a good year and you can trade him. That's what's going to happen there. You know, you're happy that some of the guys are playing well. You do have a core going forward. So this isn't some sort of tear it down type thing. But when you have impending free agents, I think it's a smart thing to do. At this point of this season, he just, the boys haven't gotten the job done enough to keep those guys around. I mean, for you to have to keep Stroman who can't get a qualifying offer at the end of the year, and to keep Belly, who I'm not sure if he can't or not, to be honest with you, I don't look into that.
Starting point is 00:27:57 I feel like he's probably already been offered that. No, I don't know. No, because he's not tendered last year. Yeah, I don't think so. Non-tendered, okay, so he, if they hold them through the end of the year, they can give it to him. So they can offer him a qualifying offer. So, you know, that's just the nature of the beast right now. You're happy about
Starting point is 00:28:18 You know, some of the moves that you've made Over the last couple years of your setup I believe to have a window But didn't get done this year Did you say you had a CJ Abrams Fun Factor stat from your tweet last night? Yeah, so Nationals fans weighed in He's hit 405 with a one daughter
Starting point is 00:28:39 Since moving into the leadoff spot in the order I guess the Nationals have had Luck doing that in recent history with Lane Thomas, this year a little bit, and then Schwarber in 2021. So they said that's a storyline to keep an eye on for the rest of the year. I love watching CJ Abrams play. You know that.
Starting point is 00:28:58 I can play D with the best of them. He's going to win a gold glove, in my opinion, at some point. But yeah, he's also getting done with a stick a little bit since moving into the lead off spot. Thrust into action. Sometimes that's what you need. You get out of your own way. It's a hitler.
Starting point is 00:29:13 Don't get me hyped for those 24. Nats. See ball, hip, all get up there. Seaball, hip, all, field ball, throw ball. Easy game. It's how we do. It's an easy
Starting point is 00:29:23 fucking game. Whoa. Maybe the 25 Nats. Sorry for all the kids. Trev. D-backs. Braves. July.
Starting point is 00:29:34 Good baseball. The first game. Out of control. Davies and Elder get rocked. We have some standouts and awards coming later this episode from this episode from
Starting point is 00:29:45 this series so we can save some conversations. I will say, you know, we talk about dudes a lot and, you know, hey, you know, you're talking about us being tough on Aaron Boone. Know what I'm not tough on Aaron Boone? The Yankees having the lowest batting average in the last 40 games. He's not taking those at bats. The players are. There's a lot of dudes on the field, and this ends with Gall and Strider, and Strider looks
Starting point is 00:30:13 gross. He gets pulled from the game and the snakes punch back instantly. Instantly with our guy Dominic Canzon gets his. I thought it was his first Major League home run. And then Emmanuel Rivera goes back to back to make it four to one. And then the Braves, again, they remind everyone that they're disgusting as young, thick, Austin Riley.
Starting point is 00:30:44 Not as young, still as thick. They come back in that final game. And it highlighted the snakes. They're searching for some bullpen help. And it just highlights that, you know, these are good teams. These are good teams. These are good teams.
Starting point is 00:31:01 And, you know, we had Christian Walker, you know, in a little mini slump. He kind of breaks out of it there in the first game. Everybody hit in the first game, 16 to freaking 13. the second game kind of like backbreaking runs for the Debecks they scored all their runs with two outs
Starting point is 00:31:16 you kind of got to love that for them and to go into Atlanta and take the first two games you're feeling really good Ryan Nelson really nice start again Christian Walker first first game three for five two homers second game two for three with a double two walks that's what you want to see that's what the snakes
Starting point is 00:31:32 need that I guess we're going to hear about that later aren't we possibly possibly Possibly. And then, yeah, in the last game, Mad E Olson, who I'm also going to talk about him later, did some things on a three-o count.
Starting point is 00:31:48 Tasty. Do you think Galen was happy? Like, as a pitcher, when you get hit, when you get clipped on a three-o count, like, I think there's still a little part of all the pitchers that are like, come on, man. Yeah. Oh, for sure.
Starting point is 00:32:01 And vice averse. Dude, if you get out, even if you line out to shortstop on a three-o count, it's like, really, dude. really and it's just it's yeah it's still I'm swinging three oh
Starting point is 00:32:13 it's still a mental hurdle with some baseball fans um this was also the the maybe the best highlight from this series was the Corbyn Carroll little league triple
Starting point is 00:32:23 uh strikes out ball gets away he ends up on third because he's he's a fast skill live um did you see speaking of fast the freeze claimed another victim you see that clip that was a tough one
Starting point is 00:32:38 that guy was a tough one that guy was five feet from the finish line. Travis, I'm going to tell you... I'm going to tell you something that's going to get you so happy and so sad at the same time. So sometimes I get a little... I get a little bummed out that like none of my high school highlights exist. Not because of my performance. But we just missed like the iPhone generation that like everything got recorded.
Starting point is 00:33:08 You know, if I went to high school four years later, every one of my athletic achievements would be on video, and I'd be like, Trev, check out this assist I had at Weston as a night game, dude. I joined the track team, which is baseball code. I have no idea where this is going, by the way. No idea. Baseball code for sucking at baseball. My first track meet, the 400 meters, any track you know,
Starting point is 00:33:35 it's one lap around the track. It's one of the worst track events, because it's not, you don't pace yourself, it's how you run as hard as you damn can. And it can get brutal. 800 is worse. Anyways, my first track event, I'm like, you know what? Maybe I'm going to be nasty a track.
Starting point is 00:33:51 Like, let the, maybe let the kid cook a little bit. So 400 meters. And, you know, I know it's a brutal race. So I'm like, hey, let's not burn and churn out of the gate. Like, make sure you save a little for the finish line. I burn and churn out of the gate. I'm killing it. That last 100 meters, I got nothing.
Starting point is 00:34:15 The tank is empty. A couple kids passed me. Everything I got, Trev, not a lie. I came across the finish line just like that kid. And thank God there weren't cameras around because that highlight would haunt me. I ate it so bad. My legs turned into jelly, boom, right across the finish line.
Starting point is 00:34:37 It was so ugly. So you were in first place. I was in first place, yeah. Yeah. That's what I take away from it. I would compare my track performance in that race and pretty much all of them to the 23 Pittsburgh Pirates.
Starting point is 00:34:54 Started out strong. Start out real strong. But everybody knew eventually. Those little legs weren't going to have it. Brewer's Phillies. Have a young thick. Get it going. Oh, he going to go.
Starting point is 00:35:10 He going to go. No, what are you kidding? He's crushing it right now. He's going. Burris Filly's Trev, two of your favorites, two of your sneaky favorites, just franchise-wise in general. And man, the brew crew, who we, everyone got caught up in the sex appeal of the Reds, and Milwaukee stopped being sexy on their own.
Starting point is 00:35:33 I'll tell you what's sexy. Corbyn Burns and Christian Yellich. Those dudes are sexy. and they get a little help from other people. Like Andrew Monasterio contributes a lot this series. Blake Perkins has a big game. That the Brewers win the set. And their record went from like winning the Central
Starting point is 00:35:53 and us making fun of the Central to like, oh, they're back to being like a good ball club. I believe they've won seven series in a row. So they're doing it. I mean, that's what you're supposed to do as a good big league game. ball club win series and you're right the pitching has really come around corbin burns has been freaking nasty and and you're right yelie has been uh good as well the phillies take the first one
Starting point is 00:36:19 nola with a really good game uh tray turner does some fun things uh when he's on the baseball field um swarber hit sworber hit a homer in four straight games i just saw that i'm kind of getting caught up on some of these games you were in it this week i didn't i was in it this week so i'm just kind of reading through some of the stuff. And I know I know most of what happened, but yeah, I didn't know that Kyle Schorber was still hot, still doing his thing. So that's nice to see.
Starting point is 00:36:51 And yeah, then Milwaukee comes back, takes the next two games because freaking Corbyn Burns is unhittable. Yeah. When he's on, he's, he's, is it wrong to say if he's on, he's the best pitcher in baseball? Not necessarily. I mean, he went to sigh. They're like, his dominant is a different form of dominant.
Starting point is 00:37:10 Like, guys don't have. hit, that guys don't even touch the ball. It's like, like, there's the pretty Aaronnola pitching that's like, ooh, four pitch mix and you might not know what's coming. Like, Corbin, you kind of know what's coming, but you ain't hitting it.
Starting point is 00:37:26 You know, him and strider. Like, that's, it's a different level of dominant when those guys are right. The Brewer's bullpen is currently thrown 20 and two thirds consecutive score of its innings. Yelly and Contrera's raking, high end starting pitching in a lockdown bullpen is the formula also
Starting point is 00:37:43 and I saw this guy in Pitching Ninja Amber Yerebe Yeah those just absolute fuel so that people want us to talk about him a little bit What you know it's it's funny
Starting point is 00:37:55 because we you know the twins We have Yohan Duran Who's I mean he's still like 105 miles an hour dude Yeah It's wild
Starting point is 00:38:04 So we were just talking Just some good old ball talk about Like will 100 miles an hour be normal like soon like 95 is like normal now like 96 like you don't get scared of 96 anymore like once you get to like 98's 99s people still talk about you but like I feel like we're just going to get to a point where guys are going to be thrown 100 miles an hour out of the pen
Starting point is 00:38:29 yeah you know what blows my mind I mean definitely the bullpen because it's that one inning let it eat the average MLB fastball still like 93 which just doesn't make sense to me because I Dude, I mean, when I was playing, I believe it was like 91. I know. I know. It just keeps going. It's like the damn temperatures on this planet we're killing. Yeah, okay.
Starting point is 00:38:52 A little political. Brewers, hey, you believe in a formula? Really good starting pitching. Really good bullpen. You mentioned that your Reba kid with the year Pyeamps and Williams have had. I wish baseball shows would highlight that. Oh, I did last episode. And my last brewery.
Starting point is 00:39:09 Hobie Milner. Hot. Very hot. Good at bat by Harper. And William Contreras. What was that? What was that with it? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:39:19 Have we figured that out? Has it come... Have they gone and said anything? They talked about it the next day and Harper just kind of said like I wasn't seeing it. And I don't know. It ended with a weird note. Like it... I think everyone was hoping that they hear one of those cool baseball things where
Starting point is 00:39:36 Harper was like, you know, I knew we wanted to watch. walk me so I just wasn't and they were just like no like Bryce uh Bryce cousin kind of wasn't about it it was like oh okay that's that's weird Vinnie Pascontino on baseball today he filled in for me shout out Vinny hot he had a term that I've never heard before which is makes a lot of sense he goes you know there's possible it's possible that Bryce thought he was a four before three guy which I like I'm going to steal that first That is good. But I don't think that he is like that.
Starting point is 00:40:13 He doesn't walk a ton of people, but sometimes if you're lefty, you're just like, I don't see it. Like that weird angle that he throws from? Sidearmors are fucked, man. I still remember back to my highlights. Like, seeing that ball come in from that area, like, no way.
Starting point is 00:40:33 Like, that was a nightmare. Every pitch looks like it's going to hit you. Anyways, William Contreras, I know you just mentioned him. He deserves a little more love. His numbers are starting to get back to, like, talk about a guy that, you know, I think he's got a career 118 OPS Plus and he's still a young catcher. Like, him and his bro, pretty good at baseball. I know we did the brothers thing last episode.
Starting point is 00:41:01 Like, God, they both started the same All-Star game, right? Or did I dream that? Love that. Yeah, one was the D.H. What fuck was that? Phillies, I do think it ends up on kind of don't care, played a good team. Let's go win some more games. Yep, that's baseball.
Starting point is 00:41:20 Contreras, you talk about his defense at all? Because that's a great note by Donald in there. Over the previous two seasons with the Braves, he was a negative 11 DRS guy, defensive run, saves guy, comes over to the brewer crew. and he entered Wednesday with seven defensive runs saves the most by any catcher in the majors. And I think the Brewers have a history of this too. I think that's one of those foolish Bailey stats. Like, hey, if you go to a catcher, go to the Brewers, figure it out.
Starting point is 00:41:53 Jonathan Luchroy had a great defensive season because if you have guys that can spot up, I feel like that's how you rack up good catcher defense. defensive metrics. You've got a bunch of guys that know how to hit their spot, so it's easy to steal strikes that way, right? Sound simple to me, Trev.
Starting point is 00:42:16 I mean... Jake Liddix, yeah. And I love, hey, the Brewers, if that's part of your secret sauce, that's what your org is good at. You traded for a catcher that wasn't regarded defensively, but everyone was like he could hit.
Starting point is 00:42:29 Guess what? It's hard to find people that can hit, period, never mind catchers, and now they've molded his defensive numbers to be in a really good spot. So that's just, that's basic shaky analytics. That makes a lot of sense. Go check out Jonathan LaCroix stats when you get a minute.
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Starting point is 00:44:22 Let's do some ale baseball. We will start out with the series Trevor Pluff will tell you about the Mariners. and the twins split for boring high level baseball listen to these starting pitchers sunny gray Logan Gilbert the nightmare Brian Wu Kent and Maeda Luis Castillo Pablo George are you kidding me the problem tends to be the hitting with some of these teams at certain points Trev was literally there he's going to tell you all about it and he even Willed and Alex Kirillov Home Ron.
Starting point is 00:45:01 Detroit Tigers Baseball. I asked you to win at least three, and they did, including the final two. Hey, your guy's trade deadline request list. Erod and Michael Lorenzen both
Starting point is 00:45:17 drop it on the table to get three out of four, another little inside baseball and a friend of the company, Vinnie Pasquantino. He listened to, last episode and he said, they ain't taken three from us, Pop. He texted me after yesterday's game and he goes,
Starting point is 00:45:34 I was wrong. So he's a little sad in rehabbing. But good for the Tigers. They're five games back in the AL Central. Do with that, whatever you want with it. Riley Green hitting over 300 again, Trev. He's kind of a guy. You love Matt Beerling.
Starting point is 00:45:53 Anyways, good for you, Tigers. Hey, Ray's Rangers, the class of the East, right? The Rangers sweep the raise. A 3-2 Shane McClanahan comes back, but your boy, Dane Dunning, righty? Seven innings pitch, two-er-n-run runs, Zeke Duran, former Yankee farmhand with a big homer in that game. And then the Rangers win the final two, Nate Avaldi with another crazy start, and Jonah Heim breaks it open in the third game. For the Rangers to sweep, they've been electric coming out of the break.
Starting point is 00:46:32 They won that first game on a wild pitch from my guy Pete Fairbanks. You don't see that every day. The race, 3 and 12 in July, Texas straightens out the ship after limping into the break. Whoa, a lot to talk about there. Angel sweep the Yankees. That first game went to extras. It's all a blur, man. It did.
Starting point is 00:46:58 Stefanic with the walk-off RBI hit, the Shohei home run to tie it up. Mickey Moniac, man, snaps for that guy. It looks like it's clicked for him. And Chase Sil Seth, called up from AAA, breaks his career highs and strikeouts after the third inning against this Yankees lineup that just cannot hit. Good for you, the race. Oh, New York struck out 42 times against the Angels. That was a record.
Starting point is 00:47:34 Boston Red Sox, they went to Oakland. Congrats, Angels, you did your job. And the A's take two out of three. That's why the Boston fans weren't walking over the Yankees' grave as hard as they normally would. The A's take the final two games. Somehow Brian Beyo gets hit. Didn't think that was an option.
Starting point is 00:47:54 Luis, funky, cold Medina in the second game. What a performance by him. Ryan Noda's becoming a guy, and JJ Bladay go doors in that final game. Full pension Piv. Break some relief pitcher records. Six innings pitch 13Ks in the first one. How do you like that? A's, good on you.
Starting point is 00:48:19 And that is what happened in the American League as the eight. A's drew their largest crowd of the season on June 18th. Well, since June 18th. That was, you guys know what happened then. Hit the music. Did you just call it the American League? Because I like that. American League.
Starting point is 00:48:40 It's what it is. There was something kind of brilliant when they were the only team league that had a DH. Treve, in the AL East. You know, those rays, they had an undefeated April. They hit. They bop, kid. The rays are in second place, 60 and 40, to the 59 and 37 Baltimore Orioles. Eight and two in their last 10, the raise are three and seven and limping.
Starting point is 00:49:10 Toronto Blue Jays are five and a half games back of the Orioles. Reminder, the Tigers are technically closer to first place than the Toronto Blue Jays. The Bastin Red Sox are 8 and a half games back, a game up on the last place. New York Yankees who have lost four straight. Minnesota Twins leading the Central at 50 and 48. Guardians are two games back. Tigers five, White Sox, 9. Royals, 28 and 70.
Starting point is 00:49:42 Texas Rangers, first place in the West. Four games up on the Astros. That got tight for a second. back up a little bit, winners of six straight in Texas. The Angels have ridded their ship a little of the best medicine with the Yankees coming to town, 49 and 48, half game up on the 500 Mariners and the athletics, minus 258 run differential this year. Trevor, chronologically speaking, we opened up in the American League with your Mariners
Starting point is 00:50:18 twin series. So I'll let you run. I know you were there, so I didn't put my horns into this series. People don't love when I go super in-depth about the twins. So we won't go crazy here. I will say this. The Mariners have an excellent team.
Starting point is 00:50:36 They really do. Like, their pitching is legit. I got to see George Kirby in person. That was very, very impressive. I mean, he shoved. And then they're relievers when they come in the game. My goodness. I think Munoz ended up, he gave a homer to somebody, Kepler, I think.
Starting point is 00:50:53 But rash, Munoz, Seawald, them coming out of the pen is pretty gross. And like I said, the starters are great. Like, if this team figures it out offensively, like, basically, like, if Julio goes, I know, like, the Kelnik situation sucks. I felt really bad for him. Kicks the water cooler. Is there, is there anything for us to really say on that? because it's obviously a big topic.
Starting point is 00:51:20 But I mean, I don't know, the story is, you know, young kid was frustrated, kicked it, and this happens every couple years. It's really dumb and it sucks. I don't know what else you say, right? There's nothing you can say. I mean, he felt, I mean, go watch his interview, you know, his press conference, he's broken up.
Starting point is 00:51:39 So you just feel bad for him. I think he did it after get called backdoor slider or curveball from Duran. He didn't like the call, although, you know, he just got frustrated. And it does happen from time and time. So, you know, I'm sure Mariners fans are not happy, but at the same time, you got to realize, like, there's still human emotion in this game. We want that. It's not in that way.
Starting point is 00:52:04 But it does happen. Twins, it kind of been on a roll since the All-Star break. They've won five games out of seven in that West Coast swing. so that was a nice start to the second half for them. Like their hitting's been pretty contagious. They got a couple of guys, a couple young guys, one guy I'll talk about later. But Kirillaz's been going, Eddie Julian's been going. Yeah, those, Carlos Korea at the leading off.
Starting point is 00:52:31 Those Julian stats, Trev. Talk about him in a little bit. Really? Yeah. Yeah. So, you know, it was fun, man. And Kent and Maeda has been good. Barely over is like one of the better pitches in baseball right now.
Starting point is 00:52:46 That was something that a Twins fan brought to me on my tweet was that he has more war than Spencer Strider, Shohei Otani, and Zach Gallin. So go Bailey over the nightmare. And like I said, you know, like Eugenio is, Eugenio, I think hit a homer in all three games there. Like they have offensive potential. Typhrance just isn't doing it right now.
Starting point is 00:53:08 Hulio Rodriguez looks a little in between, I would say. but they still have guys It wouldn't surprise me The Mariners went on a really nice run Where are they in the standings, right? They are nine and a half back of Texas And five and a half back to the wild card Oh my.
Starting point is 00:53:29 Right? This is a team that could go. This is a team that could go. Watching them play is You see it. You see it. Interesting deadline coming for them. Is it a stand pad?
Starting point is 00:53:41 Is it a bottom? I don't know. Yeah, I might buy. And the twins are, the twins are going to be in the market for some people as well. I think that that roster is going to look a little bit different. As Jorge Polanco is set to come back,
Starting point is 00:53:55 you know, as Kepler is kind of like hitting right now. So like, do you, what do you look to do with him? I hope he stays with the twins. I love him. He's,
Starting point is 00:54:05 you know, he's one of my, I've known him for a long time since he, since he's been 16 years old. But, you know, there's sort of a log jam. They need to,
Starting point is 00:54:13 they need to clear, some roster spots there. I'm glad you mentioned A. Eugenio. He has started to go, and he plays a really solid third base. I saw our guy Mariners Mews who showed up at the game, and they were like, you know, when Kyle Seeger left, we thought we were going to see lesser defense at third, and they're like, A. E. Oh, Hennio is every part of that guy. By the way, check out his offensive stats.
Starting point is 00:54:33 He's got that one outlier year that the Red sold on him. Otherwise, he's over 100 OPS-plus kind of guy. And he really clicked. Yeah, man. You're right. You still look at the page and you see so much talent for the Mariners. And then you see Mike Ford in the middle of their lineup just hitting Tators. Why not?
Starting point is 00:54:57 He looks hilarious. Did you get to see it? You get to see some big Mike Ford? He's got to be what? 5, 10, 2 something. If you just, like, filmed him in black and white, you'd be like, yeah, that guy's played in the 1900s. Like the way he stands, the way he looks,
Starting point is 00:55:15 like he swings, it looks like an old school baseball player. He looks like a pickup league softball cop. You're like, yeah, yeah, he really rakes, though. What do you think he's listed at? I think he's listed six foot 220. Yeah? Yeah. 225.
Starting point is 00:55:34 Wow. That's what he got the list. 510, 235. Trev The Tigers take three of four from the Royals I said I asked for that I asked for them I think I said 7 of 11
Starting point is 00:55:52 on their upcoming part of their schedule because it does become a numbers game you know Jimmy deep dove and you know this Yankees soft sell that they may have coming in 2016 when they did that with Chapman and Andrew Miller. I think they were four and a half games back of the wild card.
Starting point is 00:56:12 So it's where numbers do matter that the Tigers are five games back. If they start inching closer, you know, if you had Michael Lorenzen or Erod coming over at your deadline, that's going to wash away soon. So I don't know what it necessarily means for the AL Central, but it could have ripple effects at the deadline. And maybe it does mean something. Dude, that Lorenzen start.
Starting point is 00:56:39 I think he's three starts, his last three starts, he hasn't given up a run. And ERAD stats on the year are incredible. So I don't know. 21 and two-thirds innings for Lorenzen's scoreless. So, yeah, I mean, he's setting himself up to get tri. I mean, I don't know if Tigers fans want to hear that. Because they are close to the Central, you know,
Starting point is 00:57:02 like five games are still attainable. I don't know if that's in the cards. for them to keep all these guys. Is Erod has a player option, right? Well, that's the thing. Erod could be a tricky trade because he has 10 teams blocked, which I didn't know he had that in his contract. Good for you, E.rod.
Starting point is 00:57:22 But you can always, you can always waive that. Right, but it's there and it, you know, it's a factor. It does complicate getting a trade. And he has the opt out, so he's essentially a rental. So I don't know, like trading Erod, not necessarily the ERAD, not necessarily the easiest thing to do. So he does have the opt-out, because I'm looking at it right now.
Starting point is 00:57:44 Are we sure he has the opt-out? Yes. He doesn't mention it on. Okay. I figured he did too. I remember hearing that. Yeah, I mean, Lorenzen, you got to look at. E-Rod, you got to look at.
Starting point is 00:57:54 You know, a lot of Tigers fans on my Twitter feed, tell me about Spencer Torkelson. I was just going to say, how about Spencer Torkelson? One gotten over the last month. He had, just had a game where we went three for five with two homers. I watched some of the homers. He hit one that looked like he's getting cocky at the point.
Starting point is 00:58:16 Oh, I love when I started to see that. He went down and got like a down and away fastball, folded into like left center and kind of like did like this step into the plate and like kind of like watch it. Mm. And I know that feeling. you do too obviously
Starting point is 00:58:39 it's I kind of do which is just sick of me but when you get that feeling when you can hit one and you're like ooh let me just admire it
Starting point is 00:58:50 that's you know you're in a good spot so yeah he's been going off like I do love Matt Veerling he made some catches he hit some he hit some baseballs around I how about that for a analysis
Starting point is 00:59:03 that's really good that's really good Treve baseballs around I like Matt Veerling I'm not afraid to say it. You do. Trev, here's what I'll say. Their offense has been atrocious this year.
Starting point is 00:59:13 The starting pitching on the surface, you see 25th and starting pitching ERA. That's not good, right? Erod. When he's been there, he's been awesome. Michael Lorenzen, like we talked about. Matt Manning, putting it together, and the peripherals that go with that starting pitching ERA,
Starting point is 00:59:29 they're 8th and whip. Like, you know, they're 11th and hits per 9. There's other numbers there that look a little better That if you're telling me, if you're telling me Spencer Torkelson, the light bulb's gone off You're telling me Riley Green is back and his light bulb might be nice Then the efforts from McKinstree and Matt Carpenter And your guy Veerling and some hobby bias and doses
Starting point is 00:59:58 Let's not drink the Kool-Aid yet But I'm glad I'm glad we kept the tigers on our radar Because they have a fun Padre set coming up that the loser's deadline might get affected, which is crazy. Which is just crazy. Hey, talking Royals, Blanco, Garcia, and Olivierres. Olivares? How do you say that?
Starting point is 01:00:28 They have a big game in the game they win, so I don't know. Get healthy, Vinnie P. The Rangers. sweep the raise, Trev. And we still have the Orioles coming up in the IEL. Rangers, they limped into the break.
Starting point is 01:00:46 There were some butter knife numbers, you know, at different points. I think they were 10 and 15 in their last 25. You know, they were losing some games. They win three in a row against the other team who had been the Big Bad Wolf in the AL. We got the Low Brothers on the field.
Starting point is 01:01:06 Jonah Haim opening up, Simi in his back after he had a slump. I guess the Rangers conversation doesn't change much. Like, it's kind of what I just said. Like, okay, yeah, the Rangers can bop. You know, they win. They win at home. They sweep.
Starting point is 01:01:24 They're good. So I guess from you, are things different with the race? Or are we just saying, like, baseball happens? It's a grind. It's a tough month. or I don't know, the second place race who are having a horrid July.
Starting point is 01:01:44 Well, when they got off to that undefeated April, as we like to say, they were absolutely crushing the ball. And I remember talking to Cash when we were there in Tampa, and someone asked him, like, what's most surprised, what's been the most surprising aspect of your team? And he said, the offense. Like, we didn't know it could be this good. And if you look back from July 1st,
Starting point is 01:02:07 I mean, they just haven't put up a ton of runs. Three runs, six runs, one run, four runs, one run, one run. And they had a good game against Atlanta when they put up 10. But it's been a lot of that, like two runs, three runs, four runs. And today's game, that just doesn't, that's how you lose games. So the offense has come back down to earth essentially is what I'm trying to say. And their record reflects that. But I guess the question.
Starting point is 01:02:34 Which isn't, which isn't crazy. I mean, you have to expect that at some point if you're a race fan. I guess that leads me to the question of like, does it change your scope of them? Because we thought there'd be some regression. That's why we've made the joke about the undefeated April. But is it scaring you more than you thought it would when you knew regression would come?
Starting point is 01:02:58 Not really. Okay. Not really. Because I think what they did early on the season has put them like obviously well into the playoff picture. and then really what we've seen over the last I don't know like three four five post seasons it's like you just get hot
Starting point is 01:03:17 and this is a team that can get as hot as anybody so I still have them firmly in contention for a world series I'm very curious how their trade deadline is going to go they're always such an enigma for me like when it comes to this stuff like they've been rumored on Juan Soto like the last or before he went to San Diego
Starting point is 01:03:34 like there was talks about that happening so like I think there is chance they try to go out and get some big fish. Like, if you're that organization and you're Eric Neander and you're putting these teams together, like you got to the dance and that was the COVID season, right? Yep. But you haven't won one. Like, you need to win one.
Starting point is 01:03:57 Like, you're, you got it going on. So I think, like, they're, I don't know if they're feeling pressure to do that. They're doing just fine there. But you know they want it. And they're so close and the payroll is so nil that they can. go make a splash, man. I think it's just funny in this part of the season that I've been harping on these two and a half weeks
Starting point is 01:04:16 that we're going to name at some point. You know, I think the conversations in the Ray's front office have changed. Like they've had to. There was a time when we looked at their hitting stats and it was ones across the board. They're ninth in batting average now. They're 10th in OBP.
Starting point is 01:04:33 Like the conversations in the front office has changed. and I'll tell you what, I know I keep hyping up. Series, Ray's, Baltimore, this weekend. Yummy. What? Hard age.
Starting point is 01:04:51 And I'm going to be watching the Yankees and the Royals dry hump each other. God damn it. Go Rangers go. Jose Siri doesn't care. Oh, that actually leads to the Yankees and Angels. Well, Talk about a little bit about the Rangers and Chapman bringing him over.
Starting point is 01:05:13 The first game, throws a score this ninth before they walk it off and a while. I don't understand why more teams aren't active before other. Like, why not go out and get the guys you want right now? I just, I can't understand it. Sometimes it's like, hey, the guys, the teams that are selling want to wait for more offers, but go blow them away. I'm absolutely with, Trev, I'm a thousand percent with you.
Starting point is 01:05:36 And, you know, we've been doing this for six, seven, years talking about baseball, whether Yanks or here or whatever, like, there's been a couple things that I've been, like, have been in my head. Like, I'm pretty sure this is right. But what do, end of the day, what do I know? A simple electrical supply marketing guy. Trev, that is so misread by front offices. Because if you could, because I think we're going to see at this deadline, a lot of retools,
Starting point is 01:06:04 a lot of shakeups, like Mets, Padres, Yankees, there's another. you know, mariners, like Cardinals, I think you're going to see a lot of not like straight up sell, a lot of retool and reworkings that if you can do that a couple weeks ago, which, by the way, the Halos kind of did. They had their whole infield get hurt, so they added Mustakis, they added Eddie Escobar, that like, it can be done.
Starting point is 01:06:32 And I think what scares them, they're so scared to get hurt by a prospect who instantly snobar, naps and figures it out. And the other risk of it, your guy Malibu Mike, who has come over to the halos and he's looked pretty good. You know, there's a chance that he could have come over and not looked good.
Starting point is 01:06:53 But guess what? That's literally anyone in baseball, basically besides Juan Soto, who also didn't look great for like a couple months with the Padres. So you're absolutely right. More teams. If you see you have a flaw, like go for it
Starting point is 01:07:10 like address it don't just say baseball has ebbs and flows it comes and goes like do something you can do that sorry sorry for my passion
Starting point is 01:07:23 I like it Angels Yankees Trev any commentary you'd like to add let's hear Big Daddy they got swept give some credit to the to the angels
Starting point is 01:07:37 okay I want to hear that first Credit on the Angels who have a lot of injuries themselves. They needed to do this. Otherwise, this whole episode would be more Otani trades. They're above 500. Trevor, I will say this. Dude, the strikeout stuff is insane. And the Yankees fired their hitting coach.
Starting point is 01:07:58 They brought in Sean Casey from the TV booth. Griff Canning, 12 strikeouts, career high. Chase Silseh, 10 strikeouts. career high. 42 strikeouts against the Cardinals. That was a record. The Yankees at bats are a level of atrocious that I just haven't seen before. And I don't know if it's just mental and it's in their heads.
Starting point is 01:08:28 I don't know if it's something they're teaching. I don't know if it's their scouting. It's bizarre. It's really, they have the worst batting average the last 40 games, the New York Yankees. And then at the same time, I see some of the guys in the lineup, and, you know, Franchi Cordero ends up having a nice day at the office, which I'm happy for him.
Starting point is 01:08:54 Oswald Parraza comes from AAA thrown in the leadoff spot. He wasn't on the team a couple days ago. So I don't know if they're just... You can't be complaining about that, though. You've wanted that guy up the entire year. I have, Treve, but I... It's upon a confusion. If he's available to be thrown into the leadoff,
Starting point is 01:09:12 spot. Why hasn't he been hit in eighth the past couple weeks? You know? So I go Angels go Go please. I would love to be a fly in the wall in the Yankees hitters meetings like with Sean Casey at the helm. I want to know what they're like.
Starting point is 01:09:30 Because he's the guy doesn't come from the analytical age, right? He just doesn't. And that's kind of like why I feel Boone wanted him in there. It's a different feel. Oh, Gibby's texting me now. Oh, boy.
Starting point is 01:09:46 Okay. Anyways, I want to be in there. I want to see what they're like if it's just like a goof around. Like, hey, like, let's just get the boys together and get the T-levels up, or are we diving into the scouting report? It's, it's, this is baseball, man. Everyone goes through this. It's just, we're right here. It's just about to happen.
Starting point is 01:10:05 It's like, maybe, maybe give me some advice. Hey, enough about the crappy Yankees. Halos, Taylor Ward has started. click again. He looks good when he's right. Renhifo, who got benched a little while back for some, I think, some base running or some effort. He has a big homer in this. And what was the other, well, oh, Mickey Moniac, circling back. Man, like we talked about with Torkelson, sometimes it takes a little bit for the light bulb to go off in this game. Well, one-one pick, Mickey-Moneyack.
Starting point is 01:10:42 He's 25 years old. And he has 331, 364, a 994 OPS this year in 44. In 44 games. That will be an interesting one to track as he was traded for the rental of Noah Cindergarde. So we talk why front offices are horrified to trade sometimes. This is why. Yeah, Mickey won one pick.
Starting point is 01:11:06 I believe he's from San Diego. So he's back on the West Coast, enjoying it. I mean, he's doing so well that your manager, was afraid to pitch around Shohei Otani because Mickey O'Yak was there. Think about that for a second. So that is awesome.
Starting point is 01:11:22 Him and Netto, I talked about this when I saw him play. Like they have brought in a different level to that Angels team, one that if they are going to stay in contention and try to run this thing out with Shoah, I mean, those two guys are going to be a massive part of it. So it's, I'm sorry about the Yankees, bro.
Starting point is 01:11:39 And like Carlos Rodon, who's supposed to come save the world, hasn't done it yet. Blowing kisses. Are you like out on the Yan? It's like, are people just out on the Yankees? So that you know there's a lot of Yankee people in our office. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:54 I think here's what I'll tell you. And I mean, this has to do a little bit with my personality. But like, I'm the furthest in. And my best hopes are like a Dylan Carlson for a young pitcher flip. Rizzo, DJ, Stanton snap into it. judges. Like, they need so much to go right. Because Treve, the other elephant in the room, do you like the Blue Jays? Do you like the rays? Do you like, do you like the Orioles?
Starting point is 01:12:24 Yes. And do you like the Red Sox? Yes. They're four games back of a wild card. I mean, look, dude, the season's not over, but it feels like the sky's falling on social media with these Yankee fans. I mean, the only other... judge back soon or what dude? Nobody knows. That's the other problem. So I think the only thing I'd counter with you with, Trev, with you with. The Yankees haven't been, what's the set? The Yankees
Starting point is 01:12:58 haven't been in last place this late in a season since 1990. Getting 90. So yeah, man, that's going to create some panic with what can be a tough fan base. The final game in the AL, the Yankees rivals, the Boston Red Sox. They end up losing the series to the A's. A little bit of, you know, the Red Sox came in hot. They've been one of the hottest teams in baseball. They have the best, they had and have the best record in July, and they win that first game, 7-0, Pivotta's breaking records, boom, bang, pow.
Starting point is 01:13:37 Shut out in game two, and then they lose a one-run game. the finale. And hey, shout out Trevor May, our guy, 500th career shoutout. Strike out. Shout out. Shout out. Your guy, T2. Yeah, T2.
Starting point is 01:13:55 Yeah, great job by Pivotta in the first game. Coming in, you know, six innings of relief, 13 freaking Ks. That's a real deal outing right there. Turner, who's been really good. 15-game hitter. 15-game hitting streak. He's 22 for 57, one dot in a little. over the span. He's played third, second, first, and D.H.
Starting point is 01:14:15 in that time. So he's moving all over the place. Obviously a great pickup for them. And then I'll say this about the A's. I just came from watching them. They brought some young guys up, Sotersstrom and, I forget the guy's name already. Is he on the sheet at all? Let me see. Oh, yeah. They called up their two big prospects coming out of the break. They called up Sotersstrom and Gieloff. Am I saying that right? Yeah, Gieloff. Yeah, that's the one I'm looking for.
Starting point is 01:14:44 They put up like some pesky at bats, dude. Like they're, it's a young team, so you're going to have like crazy peaks, peaks in valleys, but there's some peaks in it. Yeah. Like, you know, their ability to work in a bat is pretty good. You know, what Noda does. And, you know, he kind of like sets the tone there. And they have some guys, like, you talked about their pitching staff early on in the year.
Starting point is 01:15:08 And they're just not there. it's the stuff is there but they just walk people and they get behind and counts and it's like then it becomes an issue but if things line up they can beat anybody like this is baseball like the A is like with the tap they have talent there it's just young raw
Starting point is 01:15:31 talent so it's going to lose a lot but like you know they run off a series like this where they get two out of three from the Red Sox Trevor May, probably going to see him moved at the deadline. Tony Kemp might be a nice little ad for a team going. But yeah, some of the pitchers have clicked. Medina's a former Yankee farmhand that he always had the stuff.
Starting point is 01:15:55 So if he can start throwing strikes, you're right. And, yeah, like, it's so funny how quick baseball can move, because, you know, I don't know what JJ Bladay is, but he had a couple good games. He's 25. Jordan Diaz has had some big games. He's 22. Tyler Soderstrom's 21 years old. Gileff's 23. Land Jaliers is 25. Nick Allen's 24. So... You like G-L-L-O-F. Yeah? Let's learn how to say his name. I'd love that. I'd love that for us as a program.
Starting point is 01:16:30 Because how do you say that? G-E-L-O-F. G-L-O-F. G-L-O-F. G-L-O-F. G-L-O-F. G-L-O-F. Zach Gleoff And he's a Zach with a K So I respect it Yeah I don't respect
Starting point is 01:16:46 Zach Gell off Gell off That might make a little more sense Yeah Okay What do you say G E HL
Starting point is 01:16:56 That's Gell Gell Gell No clue Goll Gull Gloff Anyway
Starting point is 01:17:03 You would love this guy Like he's your type of player Man Little fire Like a little I T spark plug A little pisser. He's 6-2.
Starting point is 01:17:12 He doesn't look 6-2. I don't know about 6-2, bro. 6-2-2 doesn't sound like a pisser to me. But maybe he is. Play with your hair on fire. Boston, it's tough. You guys were really hot, and you definitely saw three wins coming.
Starting point is 01:17:30 Ooh, they've kind of... They're playing the New York Metropolitan's. That'll be... There'll be highlights there. Trevor, you okay? You did your... lean back like no I'm just
Starting point is 01:17:42 dude I'm exhausted I've been going hard bro I'm fine don't don't worry about me bro we had on in peace we had our first floor ball practice yesterday and uh you know
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Starting point is 01:19:11 You know which pants I broke out for that one? People were complimenting me. The Rhone. They were my Rhone pants. Yep. Hmm. Let's do some IL because we're starting off with two of the best teams in baseball. Those teams are my Baltimore Orioles and Trevor Ploos.
Starting point is 01:19:33 Dodgers and the Dodgers. They take the first two. All right, Dodgers. Sure. Will Smith, how's your four for six in the second game? Chris Taylor, Grand Slam, sixth career. You know I noted that. In the final game, though, Ramon Urius, Gunner Henderson, Jordan Westberg. He's another one of those young studs that they've called up. They get it done to take first place in the east, but Dodgers win the set.
Starting point is 01:20:05 Good on them. They were trailing before that Chris. Taylor Grand Slam snapped Orioles eight-game win streak. And then Ryan Prazier comes in for the Dodgers. Have they fixed him? Grayson Rodriguez still figuring it out. Baseball's hard. Turns out. Guardians!
Starting point is 01:20:24 They take two out of three from the Pittsburgh Pirates. They put up double digits the first two games, 11 runs, 10 runs. Pirates in those same games combined for one. But they come back and they win the last one. That was Quinn Priester. The Pirates called up three guys as well. You mentioned Oakland calling up guys. But it wasn't enough because Josh Naylor,
Starting point is 01:20:45 talk about the light bulb going off. He has gone nuts for them. Logan Allen with a big start. But you know my guy, Jared Triolo, keeping it running for Pittsburgh in that last game to help get the win. Here's your World Series preview in the video game before the season. Padres Blue Jays And the Padres, they take two out of three.
Starting point is 01:21:12 They get to Manoa in that first game. Five walks zero Ks for Big Alec. Don't love that. Padres win the second game. Darvish Burrios pitching match. Those are two of our guys, Trev. And then Blake Snell puts up another just hilarious line. Five innings pitch, one run,
Starting point is 01:21:31 seven walks out of Snell. And he gets out to do it by. Bassett Hound and Vladdy with the Homer, along with Captain Kirk, so that Blue Jays salvaged the series. But Padres trying to get as much good juices they can get going into this deadline. Same with the New York Mets as they take two out of three from the Mid-Sox. Another 11 to 10 game. That was the night everyone was scoring runs.
Starting point is 01:21:58 Alvarez, Fam, McNeil, even Yismani Grindal and Jake Berger on the other side. everyone was getting it done. Justin Verlander, eight innings pitch, one earn run for the Mets. Haven't talked about him a lot this year, huh? And then Kintana returns for the Mets, but White Sox end up winning that game later, six to two. And your final series, the Rockies in Houston, they only played two when they split it.
Starting point is 01:22:27 Rockies, they win the first game. Ryan McMahon, someone trade for him, if you can. And then Brandon Belak with her. a really good outing in the second game. Kyle Tucker, Chas McCormick. Sure, sure, sure. That's what happened in the aisle. T. Payne?
Starting point is 01:22:49 Uh-huh. This is the Chas McCormick show now. Yeah, full-blown. After I told the Astros, I was a trade for La Pantara. Chaz, like, nah, bro. Yeah. I'm the center fielder.
Starting point is 01:23:05 I'm, we're good here. Um, she try to call Gibby? Nine for 14. If Gibstar is up for it, is he calling me? Is he calling you? I'll call him. Yeah, just have him call you and do speaker if he picks up. Let's see if I can do this.
Starting point is 01:23:24 Just a reminder, his Orioles are in first place. First place. And did he tell you he wanted to- Maybe Rosarena lobbying the ball in? Did he give you a little like, like I want to talk about the boys? I texted him last night and said, bro, like you guys are in first place. I need to call in. So let's just try.
Starting point is 01:23:47 Gunner Henderson. Can you hear this? I'm FaceTime audioing. This. I have low hopes for this currently. If he answers, you got to, like, shove that thing into the mic. He's a pretty loud talker. Okay.
Starting point is 01:24:15 You got big leagues, but we'll see if it comes back. Okay. You might call. Um. We thought we'd give it a try. Orioles win that last game. They probably could have won the first game if that 02 pitch doesn't get thrown to Chris Taylor.
Starting point is 01:24:33 Grand Slam, two outs, O2. I was watching that, and yeah, man, Dodgers looked like they're going to get beat that game. That's what a Grand Slam will do, do, geez, Chris Taylor. Yeah, fastball's only by Baker. You don't love that. Dodgers have nine grand slams this year leading the majors.
Starting point is 01:24:56 How do you like that? I'm trying to find my pace on this page. There we go. Jason Hayward in the second game. It's a struggle bus for me today. It's okay, Trev. I think we've all been there. Baltimore is 50 and 30
Starting point is 01:25:14 following their eight and seven start to the season. Orioles haven't been swept this year. 70 consecutive 71's Yeah I don't know man We're on it together I don't know
Starting point is 01:25:30 World Series preview Is that what you're saying There were some good things in here In my in my Twitter mentions About the Orioles That I wanted to get to But Gibby currently is playing With game one starter
Starting point is 01:25:45 Grayson Rodriguez are playing some golf together Wow Getting away from the field I mean there's been some The pitchings kind of showed up Yes. As he's challenged it, man. Let me get some of these.
Starting point is 01:25:57 How about James Outman, getting the first lefty Homer, Opio field at the new Camden Yards? That's insane, dude. That used to be such a hitter's park. That's crazy. It is crazy. It is crazy.
Starting point is 01:26:15 But like I said, he is a big boy. It actually does not surprise me. Are you a little shell shots? Did he get in pick up? No, no, no, no. I'm going through my thing. Kyle Bradish over his last, like, 60 innings has been really, really good. Answering the call here.
Starting point is 01:26:35 You know what I'm saying? Not like Gibby. Not answering the freaking call. They're a very, very interesting team come to trade deadline to me. They're the king. I mean, they have. They have the kingpin. They have the most chips at the table.
Starting point is 01:26:52 They really, really do. They have the process. prospects at the upper minor leagues. They have a bunch of dudes in the top 100. Their payroll is nothing. Like they can do, they can add a lot. And I think they're going to.
Starting point is 01:27:08 They're going to be very, very aggressive, man. It's going to be awesome to see. I hope so. I hope so. Because it feels like the iron is, the iron is ripe to strike. And even, you know, Mountcastles losing playing times. I know there's teams that would love to let him run the next two months,
Starting point is 01:27:30 the next couple of years. But the Orioles also don't have to. They can also say we have all these chips like Aaron Hicks. 34 comeback wins for the Orioles this year. That's what you like. And the Dodgers won the series. So ain't that it. Ain't that those two teams.
Starting point is 01:27:58 is that so Chris Rose has a question for me about the Dodgers is it a foregone conclusion that they win the division no snakes and giants two games behind no
Starting point is 01:28:09 you don't think it's like one of those things where it's like it appears closer than it actually is with the Dodgers this Dodgers team is a little different
Starting point is 01:28:23 than past years they're easily the favorites I want to see what the Giants I want to see would all three teams do at the deadline, but, you know, the snakes are really talented. The Giants, as an organization, this was their kind of callout year. Like, are you guys that good as an org? And they're kind of showing they are that, no, I don't think, I don't think the Dodgers
Starting point is 01:28:49 are a foregone conclusion at all. How about the Dodgers outfield that they're running out there right now? It's completely different than what we thought it would be. That's obviously testing the depth of the organization, but Hayward's out there, Peralta's out there, Outman's doing his thing. Mookie's basically a shortstop,
Starting point is 01:29:11 second baseman. It's wild, man. But that's why they've been so good for so long. We always talk about that. When they have to test their depth, they pass the test. God. That West is going to be fun, man.
Starting point is 01:29:29 That West is going to be fun. Interesting deadlines all around. Golly, we're up, we're running today. Cleveland, Pittsburgh. I hate to be rude to our guys. I gave Nailer a shout out before. He's been really going off. He's been crushing the ball.
Starting point is 01:29:50 Yeah, there's some numbers that support him being one of the better hitters in baseball. Best batting average since May 30th, above Arias. And he's doing it with pop, too. And he's a sneaky guy that, like, his name's been in the lexicon for a while, but he's 26. He just turned 26. Like, you know, sometimes it takes guys a little bit to go, and he went last year, and now he's got an 872 OPS.
Starting point is 01:30:21 Like, Guardians win two out of three against the Pirates, and at this point of the season, that's kind of expected. So I might keep it moving and shaken. Triolo 12-game hit streak. You know I'm big on that. You're a big Jared Trillo guy. Going back, I'm finding some things out, talking about the Cardinals and what's changed with them.
Starting point is 01:30:41 I know this is way back when. Apparently they brought the ping-pong table back. Really? In the clubhouse. Really? Vives are better. That's so fucking... Gotta love that.
Starting point is 01:30:55 That's so fucking dumb. Did we even mention Felix Batista when we were talking about the Orioles? I don't think we did. We got sidetracked with Gibby not answering his dang phone. they trade for Fuganami they I mean they're going they're going man
Starting point is 01:31:09 Kanoi Fugrami is a have you like dove into like I have his stuff yeah his uh his splitter ranks out as one of the best pitches um his whole story is kind of bizarre
Starting point is 01:31:21 but he um he can pump a hunch his splitters gross uh he got rocked the first two months of the season and now the last two uh one and a half month he's been good. So, yeah.
Starting point is 01:31:35 No, Orioles are a fucking problem. I tried telling everyone two weeks into the season. Like, this isn't a fun, punchy team. This is one of the best teams in baseball. And everyone's like 14 years old. Okay. It's not good news for me. Pirates called up a bunch of prospects.
Starting point is 01:32:06 The Battery. Priester to Andy Rodriguez. Both making their debut is the first time the pirates have done that since Cookie. Cuccarello and Hank Camp Camelli. Obviously. In 43. Go Guardians go. Make Chris Rose happy.
Starting point is 01:32:26 We got to circ into the second half of the show. But not before we talk, Padres, Blue Jays, Trevor. We got a lot of series left to talk. Padres Blue Jays was a good one. Musgrove goes off. Blue Jay's offense goes blank the first two games. What did they score one run in the first two games? And that is because they were facing some good pitching.
Starting point is 01:32:47 Yeah. Analytics. Like I said, Musgrove did his thing. Darvish did his thing. Even Blake Snell, he had seven walks, but still only allowed one earned run, which is, how do you do that? And he only ked four people. So it's like, sometimes you're like, oh, you bought people, but he struck a bunch of people out.
Starting point is 01:33:04 So it doesn't matter about the traffic on the base pass. But he only struck out four and five innings. So he just pitched in and out of trouble. Blue Jays salvaged the series now last game. So they scored a total of five runs in the series of Blue Jays. That's crazy to me. I know the podgers can throw it a little bit, but it's a tough series offensively for them, to say it at least.
Starting point is 01:33:25 And the Blue Jays had come in pretty hot. I think their first loss, and there's a little All-Star break in there, since the combined no-hitter against Detroit was that first game of the series. And yeah, I mean, you know, there's a lot of ways to cut up numbers. But if your team scored more than one run in a game, you won. All the losers are zero, zero and one run scored.
Starting point is 01:33:49 So, Soto is good, huh? This is an interesting stat on the page about the Padres. You know, we always talk about depth. We just talked about with the Dodgers. The Padres 17 times this season have had to use starters that aren't like their preferred starting five. So you have Darvish, Waka, Snell, Musgrove, and Lugo, like those are the guys they want with the pill. 17 other guys have had to start or 17 times, not 17 other guys, but 17 times they've had a starter that wasn't those guys. You know what the ERA is?
Starting point is 01:34:31 Is it 774? It is 7-74. Not great. Good guess. Good guess. It's on the sheet. Depth matters, man. Where are you at with the Padres? If those 17 starts came from some, I don't know, young prospect who reeled off eight good ones, yeah.
Starting point is 01:34:50 What does that mean for their standings? They're in the retool bucket. Like, I don't see a team like the Padres being hard sell. Like, you always say they have their core together. Like, they want to. they got to shake it up, but I don't know. Like at the same time for me, if they trade a Snell or if they trade Hater, they're dead.
Starting point is 01:35:18 So I don't know. Then maybe they're just buying, but that's a losing proposition, because I just talked about the three teams ahead of them. I don't know. I don't know. They shouldn't be there. Six and a half games back of the wild card.
Starting point is 01:35:33 Yeah, if they had a few better starts from those 17 outings, it'd be a couple of games back to the wild card, and we'd be talking about a completely different thing. Speaking of... I think... I don't know how... I don't know how much they sell. If you trade a Snell or Musgrove or someone of that level,
Starting point is 01:35:55 I think your season is over. Well, they won't trade Musgrove. Or, excuse me, I meant Hater. Snell or Hater. Hater, yeah. And I just... It's hard to imagine them doing that. Imagine Hater getting traded Like by contending teams a couple of different times
Starting point is 01:36:12 Doesn't make any sense Dahl. I don't know if you call it, I guess them contending. Dalton said his dream deadline is Hater to the snakes. And I was like, Dahlton, I love you, but that just will not happen. Okay. Dalton knows a lot.
Starting point is 01:36:26 Dahl knows ball. We know that. Everything we said about the Padres, the New York Mets, win two out of three, as these teams do just enough for us to not declare them dead. They do it against the White Sox. I mentioned Kitana comes back in the final game.
Starting point is 01:36:41 Justin Verlander, man, eight innings, one-earned run. Like, he's been so mentally off the radar, which is bizarre. Alvarez has a two-homer game in the first game. He's been electric that I, like, they have, the Padres feel like they don't have the pieces to retool. Because, like you said, their thing is depth. And they just don't have depth. the Mets have retooly depth
Starting point is 01:37:07 that they're going to shake things at the deadline. It'll be a soft sell retool. And that makes sense to me. Why are we here? Two disappointing teams going at it. Yeah, I don't know. Why are we here? Mets had a huge lead in the first game,
Starting point is 01:37:26 kind of squandered it away, end up getting that one. And then a great start by Verlander in game two. That's all they really need. They put up five runs. They didn't need it. And then the White Sox got a good start from Kopeck, which I can't believe he's not better than he is.
Starting point is 01:37:45 Honestly. Story of the White Sox. All the time when I watch him pitch. Yeah, yeah, Story of the White Sox, exactly. Yeah, and Kantanis gets to start. I'm going to see him out there. I'm excited to see where we are next Wednesday. We're going to do...
Starting point is 01:38:00 Sell, sell. Yeah, we're going to do some more full deadline. You know, we came off of... our life episode, last episode. And another thing I'm really excited that I reminded Dalton to do, who's hot? Like, you know, if a Yesmani Grandal gets traded. Like, he had his first RBI in nine games.
Starting point is 01:38:21 Like, does he go on a little heater heading into the deadline? Because that can change his value and his perception. So I'm interested to get there and see what other teams bury themselves or do not bury themselves. You ready for the second half of the show? Houston and the Rockies split a two-game set. This show is presented by better help. Sometimes in life, we're faced with tough choices.
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Starting point is 01:39:50 And we've got... Good thing I have holes in my shirt because I'm freaking hot. It's the busiest time of the year. And we've got some standout performances. Now, how is this going to happen? Because I picked the guy that you like and you picked the guy that I like.
Starting point is 01:40:09 I think you go first. Okay. I picked a guy who I was just going through my phone and No missed calls Telling Yeah no Gabe he has not calling back
Starting point is 01:40:24 Or has he No he has not I was talking to Kyle Farmer About this day We were talking about my days With the A's and Chapman and all these people And I said you know It's funny we had a
Starting point is 01:40:36 I had a dinner with them And we like to call it the last supper It was me Chapman Matt Olson Chad Pinder. It was like March 13th. We had dinner because we took a picture all together at the house, the content house we had there in spring training.
Starting point is 01:40:55 The next day Matt Olson gets traded. Two days after that, Matt Chapman gets traded. And they knew it was coming. I thought that was really funny. It brought me back a little bit. But Matt Olson, I mean, look what he's doing on the year. The game that I'm talking about is the Thursday game. He goes two for four with two Homer.
Starting point is 01:41:14 3 RBI hits the homers off Zach Gowan Which is nice, the 3-0 homer that I was talking about earlier But on the year This dude has 32 homers and 80 ribbies already He's got a 944 OPS I don't know how much more we can say about this guy To be able to come in and fill Freddie Freeman's shoes And probably even a little bit more
Starting point is 01:41:41 Like that's very difficult to do He's worth every single penny that they gave to him. So shout out Matt Olson. He does not date your daughter, but you'd let him date your daughter. Yeah, I'd let him date my daughter. And I think the stat I saw on the internet and I want to get it right, I think over the last 162, like going back last year through this year, he is number one in home runs. He has more than, I think he has 51. I think Judge was at 50. I think someone else was at 52. And it was, I think Shohey.
Starting point is 01:42:20 I think it was Matt Olson, Aaron, Judge, and Shohei. And he's locked up until 2030. So he'll be staying. Yeah, and Trev, this is, you mentioned at the beginning of the episode, we're having a little wife swap because a guy that you've fallen in love with this year. I'm taking Christian Walker from my snake. So a little power first basement episode, he puts together a little three for five,
Starting point is 01:42:53 two homers, five RBI. Treve, you talk about that confident feeling? I don't know if you saw the one he pulled into the left center gap, but he kind of gave that like, you can't throw that ball there to me. What do you think we're doing here? You said you like his look, kind of the bald head with the beard,
Starting point is 01:43:14 and long ago. And not a lot of baseball players have gold gloves and silver sluggers in their closet. And he is that guy. Like it's not just the kids with the snakes. Christian Walker's been doing this for a while. And he's really good. So I love that we ended up in a theme, your crush, my crush, first base, little NL swapparoo.
Starting point is 01:43:36 Because he's a guy. I had a conversation with someone in the office this week if Christian Walker was actually one of the most underrated players in baseball and I think he is. Well, he's making $6.5 million this year in arbitration. So he's not on a long-term deal. He has another year of ARB next year before he gets into free agency in 2025. And if he keeps putting up these numbers, man, how old is he? It's 32 right now. It'd be interesting to see if the dimebacks try to do anything with him. They have the next year of control probably at around a $10 to $12 million rate.
Starting point is 01:44:14 and then going forward he'd probably want something right around there as well for the upcoming years I could see them trying to get something done with him keep the core together you know maybe not dip crazy
Starting point is 01:44:25 into the years but also you know try to keep them around for the next three four 853 OPS right now 20 homer 663 rivies got seven bags seven swipes
Starting point is 01:44:36 she's taking advantage of the new rules love it yeah I guess I guess unfortunately sad extra comment there is I think of
Starting point is 01:44:45 where he's at age-wise, I think the snakes just ride it out and I hope he rakes next year and breaks the bill. He's 32. Actually, he's fucking 45, bro. Trev, but don't pretend like you don't know a free agency.
Starting point is 01:45:00 If he has a bad year next year, then he's going to be a one-year, $8 million guy. Like, you know that. We've seen a bunch of people who just get signed into their 40s. I'm off that. I'm off it.
Starting point is 01:45:14 I'm off it. I wish I was on you. Treve, we hit it. There was a lot. of other guys and I hope they pop up in this next segment. Dirt Nasty's on Fuego. That means I'm on fire, baby,
Starting point is 01:45:26 like Waco. For the series, we just talked about this guy a little bit. He's been getting it going. OPS, I think, about to clear 800. Austin Riley goes six for 13, 4662 average, four homers, 11 ribbies.
Starting point is 01:45:44 He two dotted it in the series. Got a love when a guy can two dot it. Will or Flores. San Francisco Giants legend. Seven for 15. Also with two doubles, four homers, seven RBI for him. It was a four-game set in Cincinnati. And only 39 played appearances since the beginning of June.
Starting point is 01:46:03 Flores has a 388 batting average in 1.1 OPS. Saw this in person, Eugenio. Six for 14, a double three homers. He homered in every single game, including a homer on his 32nd birthday, which was on Tuesday, July 18. happy birthday. Two,
Starting point is 01:46:24 a Eugenio Swaris. For the week, the first guy we're not going to talk about, because I'm going to be talking about him in a little bit, but how about Chicago Cubs outfielder, Mike Talkman? Yeah. 7 for 16, three doubles, eight ribbies, five runs, four walks for a 1.3 on Wednesday. Taughtman logged his first career game with three extra base hits.
Starting point is 01:46:42 That's nice. Trent Grisham, getting the bat going. Nice. Eight for 23, four doubles, two homers, six ribbies, five walks, two stolen bases for a one. How about this? Since July 1st, this is what we got. Corbyn Burns, we just talked about him. Four games started since July 1st, 27 innings pitch. He's only given up eight hits, Jake. Eight freaking hits, four earned runs, 36Ks in those innings. That is good for a 133 ERA, or my favorite stat, a 0.63.6. Whip.
Starting point is 01:47:13 Michael Lorenzen. Three games started, 18 and two-thirds innings pitch, eight hits, four. 14Ks. That's a zero ERA.75 whip. He extended his score of the streak to 21 and 2 thirds, dating to June 30th at Colorado, and it's the longest active streak in the majors, and the longest by a tiger since Michael Fulmer's 33 and a third. Wow. 2016.
Starting point is 01:47:39 Joe Musgrove, Big Joe! Three games started. Also 3-0, 19nings pitch, 11 hits, only two and runs. That's a 0.95 ERA with a 0.68 whip. He's 8 and 0 with a 176 in the last 61 in a third innings pitch. That's 10 starts to a 176. Go, Joe, go, and that, my friends. And Susan Fuego.
Starting point is 01:48:06 Incredible as always, Trevor Plouf. Man, some of those names, it's the beauty of baseball, man. Even that one week crew, Eddie Julian. All right, Canadian prospect, sure, go nuts, kid. Why not? Mike Talkman jumped over. C's came back doing it for his hometown team. And Trent Grisham changed up the stance in spring training.
Starting point is 01:48:28 Didn't get the results early on. I know Padre fans were kind of sick of his spot in the lineup. And now he's starting to go. It's the beauty of this sport. One of the things that's not beautiful about this sports is the IL. You guys know how much that gets to me. Wade Miley, another Dalton shout out, goes to the IL. We'll see what happens there.
Starting point is 01:48:51 Hunter Harvey. I think he was a trade deadline guy. He jumps on the IL. A crawdaddy for the Giants. Hate that. Cedric Mullins returns to the aisle. He's had a couple stints recently. Kelnick we talked about.
Starting point is 01:49:05 Ryan Noda for my Oakland. Damn it. And Starling Marte for the Mets. I wonder if that affects their outfield depth, deadline type stuff. Returning from the aisle, Shane McClanahan, Descalfani, Edward Cabrera for the fish.
Starting point is 01:49:20 Adam Simber, friend. Brent Souter, Tyler O'Neill off the 60-day IL for those Cardinals. And Zach Grinky, he back, he bad. And with that, on a mega episode of Talking Baseball, as we sneak up to the trade deadline. Let's get ready for the weekend the right way. Golly. Trevor Pluff.
Starting point is 01:49:50 Is Kelsey coming in for four ball? She is. Wow, good for you. Good for you. Okay, so we've tried to like dance around this guy's name pretty much all day today. I have been with him for the last seven days and I've really taken akin to this kid.
Starting point is 01:50:13 I'm going to give an award called La Bon Frapper. It's a French award today. Do you know what Le Bonne Fraper means? Uh, my French is not where I'd like it to be, no. The good hitter. Mm. Okay. I'm talking about Eddie Julian here.
Starting point is 01:50:37 A kid that's come up in the twins organization and just gone off. Like, he's had the hit tool his entire time. Go look at his minor league numbers. All the OPSs start with a nine. Okay, COVID season washed away, but everything else. starts with a 9. Okay? His big league OPS right now starts with a 9.
Starting point is 01:51:02 9.57. He's a complete hitter. This guy is one of the reasons that they were okay with trading Luis Arais for pitching. Yeah. Because you had this guy waiting in the wings. They believed in his hit tool all along. Defensively, it's still a work in progress.
Starting point is 01:51:17 We're still having to figure out some consistency there, some confidence factors defensively. But this guy's hit enough that he is going to make it he's probably going to continue to play second base when Jorge Polanco comes back from the IL.
Starting point is 01:51:31 Jorge Polanco is probably going to switch over to third base. Julian's going to be in a lineup at second base. He's been too good. They've been running this lineup out of Carlos Correa,
Starting point is 01:51:41 Eddie Julian, Alex Kirolov. So you've got two young kids in the middle of that twins lineup that if they didn't have Eddie Julian in the lineup, they wouldn't have gone
Starting point is 01:51:50 five and two on this West Coast swing. He just has been going absolutely off. And you're right. Some of the stats with him are nuts, man. Overall on the year, he's got, he's hitting 316, a 391 on base percentage. He has a very, he's very, very knowledgeable of the strike zone in a way that you just don't see from a young kid.
Starting point is 01:52:13 He's kind of has that he's so confident in his ability that you just, it looks like it's going to stick. like it's going to play. And I don't say that about a lot of rookies. You know that, right? But following him and watching his abets, the ability to use the whole field and just take knocks. I mean, sometimes it looks like Louisa Rize is hitting up there, except this dude can click balls too. Opposite field homers turns on him. He has nine in 152 of bats. This dude slugging 566, Jake. Like, this is a, this is a find for the twins. And if you look how they got him. They got him in the 18th round out of the University of Auburn. War Eagle. War Dam. His first language, he's Canadian. His first language was French.
Starting point is 01:53:08 We? Speaks fluent English now as well. Yes. I asked him about his approach. I said, you know, did you model it after someone? A lot of guys that are Canadians say like Larry Walker or Freddie Freeman is his guy. And Freddie, if you remember, played for Team Canada and the WBC. And Eddie Julian's like, I picked his brain so much about his approach. And he's like a really reinforced to me that what I was doing was right. And he said, I just want to stay inside the ball. I want to use the whole field.
Starting point is 01:53:39 I want to do all that. He's been doing that. And he's been just a treat to watch. So if he's not on your radar, like it wouldn't surprise me if this dude ended up like second or third rookie the year in the AL this year. Like he's that good. Okay. So this is the bond.
Starting point is 01:53:54 for Perra Award. It's a nickname that we gave him. So snaps for Eddie Julian out of Quebec, Canada, doing his thing from the Minnesota Twins. Quebec. God, I love you having an influence on the next generation of twins. Kirloff's Homer. Can't believe that was this week. It all moves so fast, Trev. It really does. So fast. I'm going to give out the three-headed monster award. because this team only won one game. We talked about their series a little bit. And in that final game,
Starting point is 01:54:35 these guys all made appearances. And, you know, there's some talking baseball favorites, but I want to drive home a point. There's a three-headed monster in Atlanta. I brought up the MLB leaderboard, right? You know, trade deadlines approaching, two-thirds of the way. through the season. You know who leads Major League Baseball and the National League in
Starting point is 01:54:59 Strikeouts? He's got big feet. Spencer Strider. He has 189 strikeouts. Second place in all of baseball is Kevin Gossman with 153. He's in a different land. He's in a looney-tune land, feet-wise, thigh-wise, and strikeout wise. He's also tied for first and wins. I know you guys don't care about that anymore, but that's pretty good. Ronald de Cunia Jr. He is leading Major League Baseball and Stolen Bases with 44. The second closest guy in the National League, Corbyn Carroll with 29, he's in a different world. He's got 15 more stolen bases. If I told you a player had 15 stolen bases, you'd say, oh, they're
Starting point is 01:55:56 having a pretty good year. They're on pace for like 25. That's not bad. That's the gap between first and second in the National League. Luis Arias, who's not a part of this, but he is for this segment. If he didn't exist right now, if he wasn't, he's hitting 376 right now, you know who'd be leading baseball and batting average? Ronald Acuna Jr.
Starting point is 01:56:22 So Strider and Acuna, they are, they're quite the freak shows. So is that. M. Fer who's dating my daughter. He is leading the National League in home runs. The only person ahead of him is Shohei Otani in all of baseball. You might be familiar with him. You know who leads baseball in RBI? Same guy.
Starting point is 01:56:47 Same guy climbing up to my daughter's window late night. He has 80 RBI on the season. He's tied with the doleys. Those three, man. Those three cover. the leaderboard in very different ways, very different styles. And I think it's just a reminder, those Atlanta Braves, who ended up in a bloodbath series with my debacks this weekend.
Starting point is 01:57:14 You know, we dove into a lot of teams and what are they going to do at the deadline? If the Braves stay pat, they're still the favorite. And they might do something because they can do whatever they want. They have youth. They have prospects. They have a lineup. They have pitch. Like, so if they want to do something nuclear,
Starting point is 01:57:33 they can and make our jaw drop at the deadline. Or they could stand bat and be sitting pretty. So I don't know. I just thought looking at the leaderboard and seeing how this ep went, those three. Those three stood out on a team that stands out. So drove the point home even more. They are.
Starting point is 01:57:53 At the end of the year, we might just be saying, oh, shit, the Braz were just better than everybody. And they just ran through it. If you look right now, the top 10 hitters listed on their baseball reference pages, which is Sean Murphy, Matt Olson, Ozzy Albi, Zalanda R.C., Austin, Riley, Eddie Rosario, Michael Harris II, and Michael Harris II, Ronald McKeon Jr., Marcel Azune, and Travis Darnow. The lowest Ops of those 10 guys I just named is 761.
Starting point is 01:58:18 And that's Michael Harris II. Who's, like, turning it on. It'll be higher. Yeah, had like a historically bad start. Like, it's, if you're a. pitcher and you look at the lineup, what are you supposed to do? Usually you say, hey, I'm not going to let that guy beat me. And here's some outs. Those guys are outs. I can get them out. I don't think you can do that with the Braz lineup. Like, almost at all. You pick your poison, but this team's
Starting point is 01:58:46 good, man. Codify, who does a lot of baseball stats on the interstate. They just came out with their, or actually via fan graphs, the 2023 World Series odds. The Dodgers and the Rays are at 13% and 12% you combine that it's 25 math pod that's where Atlanta sits at 25% Dodgers have the second best odds right now at 13% according to fan graph so yeah yeah as as other teams percentages dwindle you might in a sport that believes in luck and you can't just win titles like that's not how it works braves are probably going to end up like 40% chance to win the world series this year. That's crazy. That's crazy.
Starting point is 01:59:36 Trevor. Absolute grinder, banger of an ep. This is money time, man. This is the treadline. We need to get a name by Wednesday. There's a lot of good comments. We can figure that out. One more midweek till the actual trade deadline.
Starting point is 01:59:56 We will see you guys Monday. Watch some good baseball this weekend. I laid out so many series. I'm going to be flipping around better than the Yanks. Ball and play Sunday. Ball and play Sunday. Championship game? Championship?
Starting point is 02:00:13 Championship game. Hookline? In the finals? Joe's McFly, BBD? Yikes. Do you know how many people come up to me when I'm on the field doing my thing? And just yell, Jake sucks.
Starting point is 02:00:30 People look around like, where are I? they yelling that at you. You're not Jake. And I say, because it's true, that's why they're yelling. Hey, where's John boy?

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