Talkin' Baseball (MLB Podcast) - Phillies BLOW OUT the Astros in Game 3! | 570

Episode Date: November 2, 2022

Jomboy, Jake, & Trevor Plouffe break down the Phillies' 7-0 win over Houston in Game 3 of the World Series. Wasd Lance McCullers Tipping? (9:20) Castellanos has become a golg glove outfielder? (24:55)... What are we set up for in Game 4? (34:00) Use code JOMBOYPLAYOFFS for 10% off on your next purchase at SeatGeek https://seatgeek.onelink.me/RrnK/JOMBOYPLAYOFFS Get 15% off your first order by going to https://cutsclothing.com/baseball  Download the DraftKings Sportsbook app and use promo code JOMBOY so they know we sent you If you or someone you know has a gambling problem, crisis counseling and referral services can be accessed by calling 1-800-GAMBLER (1-800-426-2537) (IL/IN/LA/MI/NJ/TN/PA/WV/WY), 1-800-NEXT STEP (AZ), 1-800-522-4700 (CO/KS/NH), 888-789-7777/visit ccpg.org (CT), 1-800-BETS OFF (IA), 877-8-HOPENY/text HOPENY (467369) (NY), visit OPGR.org (OR), or 1-888-532-3500 (VA). 21+ (18+ NH/WY). Physically present in AZ/CO/CT/IL/IN/IA/KS/LA(select parishes)/MI /NJ/ NY/PA/TN/VA/WV/WY only. New customers only. Min. $5 deposit. Min $5 pregame moneyline bet. $200 issued as eight (8) $25 free bets. Bet must win. See eligibility & terms at sportsbook.draftkings.com/baseballterms. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Starting point is 00:00:01 Hello and welcome to talking baseball. Game number three of the World Series came and went. The Phillies hit all the homers they wanted to. We're going to talk all about it. Let's do it. Hello and welcome to talking baseball. Presented to you by seat geek co-jamboy playoffs, get you 10% off any ticket of your choosing.
Starting point is 00:00:34 Game three got rained out and then made up. It became November. November baseball. Astros stink in November, just to let everyone know. And so does Jake. Oh, I didn't mean that. And Jake doesn't. Let's burn this game.
Starting point is 00:00:54 And Jake doesn't stink. I've never smelled, I never had like a bad smell out of you, Jake. Thank you. I cover myself in deodorant. Jim knows. Deodorant everywhere. Sometimes a swipe across my chest. Shut up and burn it, baby.
Starting point is 00:01:09 Shut up and burn it. Rain would scare away all the ghouls and gobbles. for a canceled Halloween game, but that would mean November baseball in Philly. Park Ranger Suarez would try to defend the undefeated playoff home record at Citizen Bank National Park, while Trev's Moxie King Lance McCullers Jr. would hope to not get fucked by the Phillies offense, but in the first, Bryce says let's play a little game of just the tip. His two-run Homer was the first of five Phillies yobos. Philly legend, Alec, there's no place like, boom.
Starting point is 00:01:47 Brandon hits one into the Martian. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. Schwabos got to go away from home. Like a late night on Halloween. How about some Reese's pieces? Hoskins makes it 7-0 fightens, and the zero was because of Ranger's. Suarez, five-inning shut peace in the world series.
Starting point is 00:02:13 And how's your weakness that Phillies bullpen? They remain scoreless. Seven-nothing final in the Phillies take a two-one lead after game three. Topical, funny, edgy, great burn by Jake. Trev's got his hand up. I have a question. Sure. Was that F word, is it actually a pH?
Starting point is 00:02:38 word? Did you like do that? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Then I'm okay with that. I thought it was the F word. No. Why would you think? I'm for the kids, man. Yeah. We're for the kids here. Yeah. Just the tip. Rice did not just tip that bro. That was all meat right there. That was all of the meat. Who brought us that burn? That burn was brought to you by cuts. The Phillies were up for the cuts last night, huh? Up to the cut. That's a weird way to phrase. Up for the cuts. For the cuts. Cuts.
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Starting point is 00:04:05 And 15% off your first order. code baseball cutsclothing.com slash baseball. The Phillies win at home. Place was going crazy, some good reactions. This is a big storyline, Trev, that I know you want to talk about. Was he tipping? Was he not tipping? What did Harper whisper to bomber, they call him?
Starting point is 00:04:33 I was just going to say the same thing. People get so mad of this about saying boom and bomb, but the whole time he's like, Bomber, bomber. So, bro, you can call him whatever you want. He doesn't care. The guy just wants to mash baseballs and look good with his hair. Sneaky taller than, I always think.
Starting point is 00:04:50 Really? Every time he's like stalking around in the dugout, I'll fire it up. I'm like, wow, you're taller than I usually. Is he proportional? Everyone wants to know. I think if he didn't have the hair, it would be even taller. Interesting. I think he's got to keep the hair.
Starting point is 00:05:06 I don't want to see him buzz cut. I don't know if it'd work. Anyway, McCullors gives up the most home runs. Any pitchers ever given up in the World Series. Dusty Baker just lets them go out there and die on the vine and doesn't go to his bullpen. I think that's kind of a big story. On the Astros part of things, on the Phillies,
Starting point is 00:05:23 it's obviously, did they have a tell, did they not? But Ranger Suarez. Ranger Suarez is awesome. He's another start away from, you know, being in contention. The whole time we talked about this. series we're talking about Rangers Swarres and Noah's Sindegard going back to back in the bullpen games and they're only going to give you
Starting point is 00:05:46 three innings. I'm like, okay, you can say that about Noah who isn't stretched out. And I know Rangers been in some different roles this postseason. You know, he's come in and in relief. He even closed out a game. But this is a guy that like this scenario, five innings pitch, no one runs, this is not like far fetched for Rangers Flores. Like this guy, when you see him on the mound, you
Starting point is 00:06:09 understand why Topper trusts him so much. There's just, I saw a tweet out there and someone's like, is Rangers war is even breathing. Like he was just so cool, calm and collected out there. We had another one of those plays where he just kind of like gets the ball and doesn't really care that it was hit to him. And that's, that is the sign of like someone that's in control.
Starting point is 00:06:30 Yes, James. I'd like Phillies fans that watched every single Phillies game and all the Ranger starts to know if that is him all the time. is he always, I can go watch videos, I guess, always fielding comebackers in that badass way? Or is he upping it for the playoffs in the World Series? The one with Braggman and game. The one, Gregman in game one,
Starting point is 00:06:53 I mean, that's about as big of a pimp job on a routine groundball you can do. So I'm wondering. I don't let me know. He's, this is his, this is what he does. I mean, he's a very like kind of happy go lucky guy. outside, you know, of his starts or his pitching days.
Starting point is 00:07:12 And that kind of like serves him well out there. But he's, he's just confident, dude. Like he's got the stuff. He's been in some big situations now throughout his career. And I think he's like kind of drawing off of that. And I like that. Yeah, I mean, this was like to anyone that kind of knows what's going on with
Starting point is 00:07:29 the Ranger and the type of pitcher he can be, I don't think you should be too shocked that he went out and had this type of performance. Obviously, the Astros are a great offense. and for him to do this in a big game is great and you have to applaud it. But the whole lead-up to this game and this series talking about Ranger going three innings, I don't think I ever was like,
Starting point is 00:07:48 that makes sense. Because he's a good pitcher. I think part of it was, you know, we got to talk about the rain out a little bit because we originally, when the Phillies, you know, we were talking about if they lost or won game one. Because Ranger Suarez is, he is, you know, with Nola and Wheeler.
Starting point is 00:08:05 He's not with Cinderguard. people were phrasing that way because of how the series was. But him, you know, we were originally debating for that game one of the World Series. Like, okay, can you send him out for Game 3? Ends up not mattering because Game 3 ended up being Game 4. And yeah, man, he looked good. I think you definitely saw his final inning. You know, he finishes with 76 pitches, but they're World Series pitches.
Starting point is 00:08:31 And I think you ended up seeing the effects of pitching on your throw day instead of just having a throw day, that he was losing a little control and he ends up surviving that last inning. Altovae kind of lets him off the hook in that last at bat. But he was electric and he's a guy that, you know, I know the broadcast wasn't getting there the right way.
Starting point is 00:08:51 He wasn't qualified for the gold glove by three innings pitched. Otherwise, he could have gave our guy, Max Freed, a hell of a run for his money, who Max Free just won his third straight, gold glove. So we're talking about high level defenders. I would have to ask about the swag levels.
Starting point is 00:09:11 It feels like he might have turned that up in a little bit for the postseason. And why not? Because the rest of the boys have too. That's the Phillies. Mm-hmm. Let's talk about it, James. You know what we want to talk about. Let it out. Start us off, I want to go. Do you all want to go?
Starting point is 00:09:26 You're hot. And then I spent so much time. I sat down. Man, I got to tell you about what happened in my house last night. I don't, people might be tuning in that just care about baseball, but maybe at the end, let me tell you. But I sat down to record some breakdowns and then the tipping stuff. So I spent three hours instead of recording these breakdowns, just looking at these tipping pitches and came up empty, which was a terrible feeling.
Starting point is 00:09:49 So I'm in, I'm in this with you. Yeah. So, you know, this was, I'm going to tell people what was going on for me last night. I started watching the game. I see Bryce Harper's Homer. I freaking screamed. It was like, I was like, that is a bomb. I love watching stuff like that first pitch.
Starting point is 00:10:04 Just crushing, saying this is my house. That was big time stuff. Right after that, Teddy's like, Dad, I want to go work on my pitching. So I had the game on, like, audio. I was listening to the radio. So I wasn't watching the game when all this was going on. I was just listening to it.
Starting point is 00:10:23 So I didn't have time to, in real time, I wasn't watching to see what was going on. So I get in, put open Twitter up, and it was this whole explosion. He's tipping pitches. Oh, my gosh. and there's some screenshots. And in the moment, I was like, if this, I tweeted this out,
Starting point is 00:10:40 I said, if this is what's going on, then somebody in the Astros' front office has some explained to do, or the coaching staff has some explained to do. Come to find out, after doing my own research on this, I mean, I told the people, I was going to, you know, look at some film and see what I can see. Because bottom line is,
Starting point is 00:10:58 people might think they know what's going on out there, and I'm trying to help people with this, you know, picking up tips on pitchers. there's a lot of people that are jumping the gun here. So I went, you and I both went over the footage. And in my opinion, and we don't have all the camera angles, which when you're hitter on the opposing side,
Starting point is 00:11:18 you have all the camera angles. So there's something different there. But in my opinion, I didn't see anything that you would use in a World Series game. There were some variances in his leg kick and maybe a little bit with his glove here and there, but nothing consistent enough to rely on.
Starting point is 00:11:31 You know, if you're talking about Bryce Harper hitting the Homer on the first pitch, and then going to Bome when he was on deck. Bome saw him out of the wind up. Harper saw him out of the stretch. Usually those two don't correlate. And they didn't in this regard either. So here's what I think happened.
Starting point is 00:11:49 Then I'll let you talk, James. And I don't have any inside knowledge on this. I'm just from being in the game and kind of understanding the flow of things. I think Bryce called him over there and said, listen, man, it's not sharp today. That breaker's spinning up there. I think the crowds got him a little shook, like, go have a day against this guy.
Starting point is 00:12:10 That's what I think he said. And I think he wanted to do it out in the open because I think he wanted everyone to see that. And for Lance to get in the dugout and have someone say to him, hey, dude, they were talking on, you know, on the top step. Like, what's go look at this? Like, what's going on? I think that was part of it. Because after pouring over the film, I just, there wasn't anything that I thought you could use. and I know a lot of people, some very prestigious people in baseball,
Starting point is 00:12:36 we're saying it was definitely tipping. But I got to be honest with you, man. I disagree. I do think Bryce thought he had something from watching all the footage. He does say to K Long, the hitting coach, he says, I may have something. That's what he says. Then he called bomber, bomber and calls him over. But I was getting frustrated with people tweeting out like two different deliveries
Starting point is 00:13:03 and saying, look, they're different. but not showing you what the pitches were or the start of the delivery. And like you can't tell tipping from pictures ever. No. Because you're just pausing a wind up in different spots. Like you, that can't be anything. It has to be like in the delivery.
Starting point is 00:13:23 And then it has to be something that if you're not watching the two shots next to each other, could you still pick it up? There's got to be a definitive point like his legs higher than the one. Okay, well, it's easy to tell when you're looking at them side by side, but is there a definitive one? So one that I think Harper kind of thought in the beginning, my guess is maybe it was the leg is in the first inning, McCuller's left foot, so his front foot, went above his knee. So that's like a marker. You don't need a side by side. You go if the foot goes above the knee, it's the, and
Starting point is 00:13:56 he did that only for breaking pitches before Harper's home run. And Harper was sitting curve. But he only throws two pitches to lefties usually. So Harper's going to identify a pitch and sit on it. Problem is bombs next at bat. He does the high leg kick. It's a fastball and he smokes it. So it doesn't add up at all.
Starting point is 00:14:19 And then with Reese Hoskins at bat when he homers, he kept his knee, his leg below the knee every pitch, every sinker and slider and Hoskins homer. So it doesn't add up there. So I think maybe they thought they had something. but what it did was it got McCullors off his game pretty big time because McCullors is a guy that throws two pitches to lefties usually sinker or slider curveball and in the first inning to Schwabber and Harper he threw seven pitches all sliders all curveballs in the second inning he faces Schwaber again and Marsh and now he's throwing chain
Starting point is 00:15:04 up's what he did he went to the change up so he thought yeah he went and he doesn't usually pitch like that so it's either he didn't like his stuff or maybe this was premeditated game plan or they got in his head like you're saying trev and they completely switch because by the end of the game i mean he was throwing when harper came up his second at bad it was cutter cutter change up which aren't pitches he throws that often to lefties especially so i i was getting annoyed by all the the videos out there that were just showing two like leg kicks but no actual context around them those don't really tell you anything i do think the philly's thought they had something and it led to right brace martin led to very big confident swings
Starting point is 00:15:49 brice might have thought he had something but like this is another rule of of of you know getting tips is you have to be sure and you know a lot of the time like you're not sure and And one person might think he's sure, but that's just because he saw something, you know, himself. And to be able to pass that on, it has to be something that everyone can see. Sometimes it's just a feeling. I've talked about Brian Dozier thinking he had something like Chris Sale and everyone else is like, what are you fucking talking about, bro? We don't see anything.
Starting point is 00:16:21 He's like, it's in the facial expressions. Okay, dude, I guess. And as much as it might have messed with the McCullors, I think it upped the Phillies, like swings, like the confident, like barrel swings if they did get it what they thought they were sitting on. Oh, and that's what they are. One more thing. One more thing.
Starting point is 00:16:36 Then I'll let you go, Jake. I think we look at Framber and what he did and what he said after the game. And he was kind of like obviously being suspicious. I don't think he was cheating, but he was being suspicious. And I said this on the show before. If you're being suspicious, you better expect to be, you know, talked about and have the reaction that everyone had. I think this might have been some sort of answer to that or it's like, hey,
Starting point is 00:16:59 that's kind of like getting this guy's head. But I do think he was just like missing with some of these pitches. And if you're up there and you know this guy is throwing 75% breaking balls, like your cadence changes. And like you tend to sit there and you don't really necessarily worry about the heater. It was just a mixture of everything. I do not think that they were just, they had his pitches all game. It surely didn't seem that way when you watch some of the abats.
Starting point is 00:17:24 Yeah. And that's why everything you guys said is right. And that's a problem. I think everyone wants one answer to be right. he was tipping or he wasn't tipping. He probably might have been a little bit. Maybe it was the leg thing at the start, and maybe he realized it.
Starting point is 00:17:37 Or it's something maybe we couldn't see from head on. I know I was talking to Jerry during the live stream, Jerry Blevins, Shea Station, you know, before and after the live stream. And he said, you know, sometimes it's the littlest thing. And sometimes it's there. Or like you're saying, Trev, it's the belief and it's there. And if you find the right one, then you're good. But, you know, that's going back to,
Starting point is 00:18:00 to that of all the Yankees wildcard game last year. You know, the Yankees had something on them, and it was from the front view, so we didn't get the full dynamic of it. I think it's all that, because I know you mentioned briefly that maybe he was a little rattled out there. That's not Lance McCullors Jr.
Starting point is 00:18:15 He's pitching enough big games. And I think, you know, we were talking about the pitcher, the plight of the pitcher when you are tipping that it's almost like try anything and whether that's more changeups, which we've also seen the Houston pitchers mix up their pitch mix in these playoffs.
Starting point is 00:18:33 We've seen Presley throwing more changeups. You know, if you got it in the bag and you can beat your numbers, that's another way to win. But yeah, I think, you know, look at the guys who are doing it. I mean, Harper, that was a cement mixer middle, middle, that he just laid the hammer on it. They were all middle, middle too. Boom, you know, is he just jumping a sinker?
Starting point is 00:18:55 Did they think they have something and he jumps a sinker? I don't know. but the other thing here Bohm and Marsh's home runs Marshes is a home run in two ballparks Booms was about 50-50 but that citizen bank that's where they play that's why this team was built like that
Starting point is 00:19:14 that's why they got a bunch of mallers they said let's lean into it. The Schwabo home run? Guess what? He wasn't tipping shit then that was a change up low and away kind of dotted Schorbo threw a barrel on
Starting point is 00:19:28 it for 443 to dead center. There's not a lot of guys that can do that in baseball. Of lefties, there might be two. I think it's him and Otani can actually hit a ball like that. Maybe Yordawn. How are you, kid? Yeah, I was going to say Yorgon. Yeah, I think all of it ends up making sense.
Starting point is 00:19:50 You know, he ends up getting some strikeout. Like you're not looking at it and it was zero strikeouts. Like McCullors had 5Ks. He tried to adjust, whether, tipping pitch mix or otherwise with that change-up, it looked good for a little bit. Dusty, let him ride for an extra extra inning, I think when we were all thinking,
Starting point is 00:20:08 you know, while we're talking pitch-tipping and all of that, and even if he's not, which is kind of worse, if he's not tipping his pitches and he just looks like this, I don't think you can let him go out back for that fifth inning in a World Series game when it's 4-0. So either way, that's kind of a loss for Houston. I don't know. They also didn't score.
Starting point is 00:20:31 So, you know, pick your poison, Houston. Why did they not go to the bullpen earlier? That's kind of the thing here is when you have a fully arrested bullpen in a bullpen like the Astros have where, you know, there's several guys that you can trust in high leverage situations. I mean, going third time through the order, it made sense to not have him back out there. He put up two goose eggs in a row after giving up the homers in the second inning.
Starting point is 00:20:57 but, you know, it's, that's a very tough top of the lineup, and you'd rather have, you know, somebody else go see them that third time. And, you know, sometimes we talk about managers taking their pitcher out too soon or, you know, you know, this is the new age, you're only going to go five and dive, and sometimes that's right. But when you have a guy that, you know, it was having some barrel stone on his ball, clearly wasn't as sharp as he needed to be.
Starting point is 00:21:25 I think that was a mistake by Dusty and obviously in hindsight we saw what happened but I think even without that I think it's a mistake you have that bullpen and this is this isn't like a regular season game you know in a regular season game yeah he's out there go let him get his pitches in whatever this is the world series and this is a crucial game
Starting point is 00:21:43 a swing game if you will and I I just think bringing your your good bullpen in that situation is probably the right decision especially off of a double off day you know, he had gotten eight straight outs, and he had gone to that change up more, and he looked a little better,
Starting point is 00:22:01 whether it was just going to the change-up or maybe he fixed what he was doing, but he'd gotten eight straight outs, but it kind of goes to... Jim said it a couple times this postseason. We saw him push with Montero. It ended up working, but did it? Like, Montaro almost gave up two home runs
Starting point is 00:22:15 to Schwabo and the same at bat. Why wouldn't you have the pen ready to go anyways? Because he gets Seguera, that's his eight out in a row, But then Marsh gets a single, and now you have Schwerber up with a runner on, which is, you know, the second biggest threat of a two-run homer right now in this series to Harper. And he ends up hitting one. So that's where it's how is there not someone ready to go?
Starting point is 00:22:40 If he cruises, good for you, Lance, you settled in. But at the first sign of trouble in a 4-0 game, you got to go. And they didn't. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. Is it the, you got a lot of games in a row? I thought the relief pitching would help them. There's things we don't know.
Starting point is 00:23:01 Had no idea. McCuller did settle down, but I don't know. It just seemed like it wasn't worth it in the end. World Series. Third time through. These are the manager's decisions in a World Series. This is what we talked about in the postseason. This is how you have to earn your money.
Starting point is 00:23:15 Like how you handle the bullpen is like it's pretty much it for a manager. And I agree. You just have to have someone ready to go. Like someone should have been up fifth inning as it started ready to go. Like no doubt in my mind. Maybe even starting in between innings. Just getting going just in case you get that Mars single.
Starting point is 00:23:39 Like you said, bring it to Schwabo. Like someone's got to be ready. That's a mistake. I'm trying to, the lefties for Philly really at a nice night. McCullors stats versus lefties on the season. Because it's very interesting. He's outside of Stott, everyone else. Yeah, well, collectively, it's one, two, three, four, four for eight for the walk.
Starting point is 00:24:15 Yeah. And three homers? Without Stott, yeah. I have Stott in there. Stott, Mars, Schwerber, Harper, only had eight at bats? Against McCullors. I just, I don't know. I just wrote every result down.
Starting point is 00:24:33 Okay. Unless I have some weird caveat in here. They hit three homers, though. Yeah. Because he has a good slash line, first lefties. All season. Yeah. This fucking...
Starting point is 00:24:52 What else we got from this game? We have the Nick Castiano. He's the best right fielder in baseball right now. Another turtle catch. Turtle catch is all over Philly, man. Unreal. To start the game. First pitch.
Starting point is 00:25:05 First pitch, Al-Tube dinks went out there. And dude, he's like getting good beats on this ball. I think that was like a 50-50 catch. Like Castionos doesn't make a lot of those, especially during the year. There's all those defensive stats. Can you talk about what his quote, Trev? What was his quote? Which one?
Starting point is 00:25:24 That during the regular season, it's hard for him to lock in and he gets bad jumps because he's like dazed out. And in these high pressure games, he's super attentive. so he's getting better jumps. I mean, it's an honest quote. That's what's honest of a quote as you're going to find right there because that's the damn truth. 162. There are going to be times, man,
Starting point is 00:25:45 we're just like, shit, especially in the outfield. Like, you know, in the infield, you're kind of locked in. Like,
Starting point is 00:25:50 you can get hurt if you're not locked in, especially at third base. But we all have our moments out there where it's like, okay. You know, you know who can hit you the ball and who's probably not going to hit you the ball. And I could see how,
Starting point is 00:26:03 Castellanos for the year he kind of had offensively probably wasn't all in on it too probably thinking about as a bats for a lot of the time but these games yeah I mean you are locked in every single pitch because you know they're under a microscope and he's gotten great jumps
Starting point is 00:26:19 and it's just fun man it's fun to see him going and doing his thing it's almost the exact same catch he had what was that against the Astros yeah he's had a couple now I mean against the Braves excuse me not the Asherst Yeah, the lefties against McCullors, four for eight with three homers.
Starting point is 00:26:41 They all only got two at-bats. Shorebur got three. Shorebur got three. He got the walk. Yeah, walk, Homer. And then ground out. So Stott went over two, Marsh went two for two for two, Harper and Shoreb went one for two with a homer each.
Starting point is 00:26:53 So the lefties just crushed him, which has been something he's handled pretty well this season. He had like a two-septu-s slugging. Reverse splits. Yeah. The other story with Philly's defense is there. They're bullpen. They're two weaknesses, right?
Starting point is 00:27:08 I know it's a 7-0-0 game. I know it's the second squad. Outside of our guy, Gibby looking absolutely gross. How's your cutter slider, kid? They haven't give up a run in the World Series. I mean, Nolan Wheeler got rocked. This bullpen. I don't know, man.
Starting point is 00:27:25 They don't use Sir Anthony. They don't use Alvarado. D-Rob, if you want to throw them in the mix. It's unreal. It's unreal. that the strength of this team is being the strength of this team. That lineup is mauling and frightful.
Starting point is 00:27:42 And then the part that's supposed to be their weakness has been just as good. Bullpen and defense showing up. It's about as good as you can get, or the best case scenario for Top, or you get out to the lead, you get to throw some of these guys who haven't really pitched a lot.
Starting point is 00:27:57 Gibby gets in there. We see Brogden do his thing. And now, for game four, you have Nola going, and you can kind of set yourself up and think, okay, now all those guys that pitched in game three, you're probably in the rest tonight. We got Nola and Alvarado and Sir Anthony
Starting point is 00:28:15 and probably D. Robin F them. That seems like those are his four guys that he really trust there. So you throw those guys tonight, and then you kind of have a pseudo bullpen game, game five with like Sindigard probably starting unless he comes in relief in game four. Like you're just setting, the pitching just got set for you.
Starting point is 00:28:32 are we going to be talking about this rain out and how they were able to split Rangers start and Noah's start? I think that's going to end up probably being a pretty big deal in this series. But it's been very impressive. And now for the rest of my time in baseball media world, I'm never going to say, oh, this bullpen's going to stink during the postseason. Because you just don't know, dude, you can catch fire and guys can get locked in
Starting point is 00:29:03 and we're seeing that with the Phillies bullpen. I mean, we were, we were talking shit about it. Well, the Braves last year. Braves last year, we saw Daniel Hudson and the Nationals do it and he threw every fucking ending of that World Series. Like, it's about, I guess, who can handle the pressure
Starting point is 00:29:20 and then who just gets hot. When Brogden came in, it was like the Astros, it was Pena, Alvara? Was it Pena Alvarez? Yeah. They were just swinging. It was like they were so excited that Suarez was gone.
Starting point is 00:29:40 And they thought like, okay, finally, give us someone new. And they just came in. I mean, Pena tries to bunt. You tries the bunt first pitch. What was that about? Yeah, I don't know. And then he swings and then he swings again out. Jordan Alvarez swings at the first pitch out.
Starting point is 00:29:56 Bregman swings at the first pitch. strike swings at the second pitch out so the first one two three four five six pitches that Brogden through had swing attempts one bun and I thought that was the asteros coming out of themselves a little bit and just trying to fucking well jump you too
Starting point is 00:30:18 the bun was weird I don't know they don't mind the bun attempt because you're just trying to get runners on base and I'm sure bone was just way back Tucker swung at like every pitch besides one as well. 13 pitches, 12 strikes for Brogden. Yeah, he's. I love that.
Starting point is 00:30:39 Jerry Blevins had a little lead in his pencil for those skinny legs on Brogden. That took them to a special place. How many called strikes I have it in front me? Do you have it? One. So they just swinging. Yeah. Swing away, boys.
Starting point is 00:30:52 That nice little change up. And I think I mentioned it briefly. I think it should be mentioned again. Houston had gone up 5-0 in each of the first games. The Phillies obviously came back in that first game. Houston's sitting there down 4-0. Suarez. He walks McCormick.
Starting point is 00:31:10 Maldonado gets a single that sends Al-Tuvae up to the plate. It looked like the thread had a chance to come undone. We're in a hitter's ballpark. Al-Tuve had lined out to the pitcher, the one that was in Suarez's glove, and he had the Nick Castiano's one to start the game. both of those on a lesser Fielding pitcher and not playoff defense
Starting point is 00:31:32 Gold Glove Cassiano's could possibly be hits. He has, he takes a ball and then he fouls out on a four seamer in on his hands, which, I don't know. If you were Houston, that at bat ended up being
Starting point is 00:31:45 your only hope for the night because the next inning they go and they hit two more dongers. But zero goose egg from the Astros. I don't have the numbers in front of me, but it seems like when you're facing Ranger, you have to be ready for so many different speeds that it makes it tough. Like you can get blown up by a four-scene fastball
Starting point is 00:32:07 because, you know, you might start to sit soft or your cadence might start to get in line with some soft stuff. Then all of a sudden you can kind of just pump one up there. It's very difficult to game plan against somebody like that. His slowest pitch of the night was 77 and as fast as was 95.7. And we're talking 20 miles an hour difference, basically. Yeah. It's actually 18-ish. I'm not doing math right now. I just tried to and my brain was like, no. Yeah, his average is 78 on the curveball,
Starting point is 00:32:35 94 on the four seam, 87 on the cutter, 85 on the change, 94 on the sinker. Pitches. That's pretty good. Like when you have those 10-mile-an-hour differences between all your pitches, I mean, sometimes that can be bad for you, depending on if they just kind of look so different out of the hand,
Starting point is 00:32:53 then you can kind of, you're able to see it, little earlier. But I think Ranger does a good job with his arm speed. That's what it looks like to me. Treve, I know you don't face them. I know you don't do the math well, but Draft Kings does. They do a lot of math in that app. It's pretty nuts.
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Starting point is 00:33:58 Yeah. It's a big game. Yes. What are you most excited about for it? I'm most excited to hear what Trev has to say about Houston. Because I mean, the onus is on them. Philly's going to be rocking. Their lineups disgusting. Do you think it falls
Starting point is 00:34:14 more on Javier? Do you think it falls more on the offense to get the goose egg out of there early? I mean, everybody. This is Nola coming off a start, like a forgettable start. That's interesting. like to see that, see how he responds there. That crowd, like, is, I didn't think it really affect the ice shows, but that's, that's
Starting point is 00:34:35 a crazy crowd, man. Like, it's, I know we're supposed to have big crowds during the postseason, and it's loud pretty much everywhere, but I don't know, it seems a little different there. Yeah. They are hungrier. On one. It's Philly, baby. Eagles are 7 and 0.
Starting point is 00:34:51 I have an answer to your question. Jim's got it. Ask it again, because when you asked it, ask it again, the six. it again in the same way. I never know what I say. I was just, I was about to repeat. I was about to repeat what I said in the first word I was going to say was onus, which I definitely didn't say to.
Starting point is 00:35:09 Javier, Javier, or the hitting? The hitting. Okay. Because after yesterday, Javier better have a short leash. I don't think he needs one.
Starting point is 00:35:19 I think he's pretty good, but, and, and, and, and, and, going down 3-1, this is a game where Dusty needs to unleash the bullpen.
Starting point is 00:35:26 And he will do that. more, you know, more beneficially or better if they have a lead. So I think the hitting needs to show up. And the first time through the order, get some barrels, scrap across one run, at least get pressure on. Don't go down easy the first time through. If the Astros, I think that's kind of the key. But I wouldn't be surprised if the Estres pull this one off
Starting point is 00:35:55 and even win soundly. They're a very good team. Last two games for NOLA, excuse me, have not been what he's wanted. Four and two thirds in the CS against the Padres. He gave up two homers, six earnies there. Then the last start against Philly in game one, four and a third, five earned runs, two homers. So he's got to keep the ball in the ballpark. I'm interested to see how Javier does.
Starting point is 00:36:22 I don't see him like stifling this Philly's offense. They feel good. That's a confident bunch there. I think you're right, James. I think it is going to fall on the Astros offense. Like you've got to go out there early, get an early lead. Try to shut up the crowd as best you can. I don't think it's going to work.
Starting point is 00:36:39 That's a raucous crowd. Yeah, they have to outslug the Phillies, which is what the Phillies do well. Javier last five starts hasn't given up an earned run. So you got that going for you. Has he enjoyed himself? I don't know. I kind of don't know where he sits on this team.
Starting point is 00:37:04 I mean, he's a 25-year-old that just had a 25-4 ERA, and they're telling him like, yeah, here's game four kid, and if we need you out of the bullpen early on. So I don't really know where his head's at. But when his stuff is on, it's disgusting. I think we all ended up on the right thing there. If you're Houston, take the crowd out of it, get the zero off the scoreboard, whatever that is.
Starting point is 00:37:30 I mean, if it's, if it's Altuva, Pena goes for the bunt, moves them over, and you get, you get one run across. I know people would kind of hate that. You got to no more goose eggs, because you can't be in the fourth inning saying, Houston hasn't scored a run, they haven't scored a run in Philadelphia.
Starting point is 00:37:48 You got to get that out of there, get the crowd out of there. And yeah, I mean, Stanick looked good. I don't know why they're so scared of using that guy. Seven pitches struck out Harper and Real Mudo. And then you've got Montero now with the extra rest. Bit of a pirate vibe. Presley.
Starting point is 00:38:11 Deploy the pen. Deploy it all, Dusty. He's got a plan, though. Alec Baum, Baum, Bomber. Bomber and Christian Javier. Both got Rookie of the Year votes in 2020. Ooh.
Starting point is 00:38:28 So. Don't double charge me for that. If Bryce Harper hits more homers. I mean, it's setting up for this to be like the Bryce Harper show. You might turn into a statue. Like this is. And we know as baseball fans, you kind of have to figure that Bryce Harper at some point in his career is going to take over the playoffs. He's doing that right now in front of our ups.
Starting point is 00:38:57 So I think really enjoy that if you're a Philly fan and really be scared of that if you're a Houston fan because it seems like he is about this moment, dude. Like as soon as he, as soon as he hit that Homer against San Diego and was like, I just did that. I think that unlocked a new level of Bryce Harper, which is fucking terrible.
Starting point is 00:39:18 I think he's got to maybe get in touch with a certain coach for the Yankees to get his post home run swing pose. right because the next one might be a statue. That got some discussion in the live chat last night, and I can reach out to Luca P if you want me to. I think Bryce, I think Bryce already figured it out. I think it's not going to be a whole. No, they were doing the graphic in and out of commercials,
Starting point is 00:39:51 and it looked awful. It looked like he was just kind of like standing there, like, holding fake boobs. But that's what the people of Philly will do. That's what it's going to turn into. You take a picture next to Bryce holding your yobbers. Your boobs would be nice to hold up. Listen, I think Bryce, there's no doubt my mind,
Starting point is 00:40:07 his statue is going to be like a fist pump in him screaming. That's like what. He'll be screaming. I'll have to eye black on there. Eye black screaming. Philly. Jake sucks. A new shirt.
Starting point is 00:40:27 My house is a new merch coming out. Stomach bug showing through. Might hit me at any second. It was on you.

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