Talkin' Baseball (MLB Podcast) - Philly Comes Back from Down 5-0 to WIN in Extras! | World Series Game 1 | 568

Episode Date: October 29, 2022

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Hello and welcome to talking baseball game one of the world series happened last night and it was an absolute doozy, fantastic game of baseball on the biggest stage. Let's talk all about it. Hello and welcome to talking baseball brought to you by seat geek. My name is Jimmy and in the studio we have Jake, Trevor and BBD's there but just ran away to go let Pita Moylan in the building. We were streaming the game last night. Now we're recapping it here. Just, yeah, a really doozy of a game, Jake. I'm excited for your burn because there's a lot of moments in here that are like small little wild weird things.

This was a crazy game. We were watching this, live streaming. We'll be live streaming again tonight. World Series game one. Down five. Extra innings. Sheesh. It was everything you could hope for in a game one.

I mean, we had all the storylines, good defense, bad defense, timely hitting, homers, Kyle Tucker, Abraham, Lincoln, doing it, and my guy, J.T. Rio Muto, Hot Boy with the freaking flavor saver. I hope that's in your burn today. I hope it is. Could be a long series. Okay. Are we ready for that?

Oh, we're not because you don't have the music because B-Bers is. gone. Oh, waiting for Beaver's to get back. All right. Get moiling. There were so many things that happened in this game. That's what we were talking about before. It's like,

I hope we don't forget any of them. Because there was like 12 defining moments of this game. I mean, we were on the edge of our seats. We were standing up. I was nervous. Like, I was legitimately nervous. For both sides in that game,

there was some pressure-packed moments, man. Like, Bone playing great defense at third base, like making some incredible play. Sheesh. That's the first one I've ever said that. Feels good. No, I don't like it. I don't like it at all.

It feels good. There's going to be moments we forget. I mean, I started making a little breakdown of the end of it and editing it together. And just in the last eight outs, like every out was like, I was like, oh my God, that's kind of a thing. It's like, oh, yeah, that's a thing.

You know, so it's crazy. Like that bottom of the ninth inning is, a ball drops in a stolen base replay that's impossible like crazy to tell then Castianos makes the catch it's like that was just two outs on the box score

Altoevae not hustling out of the box only gets to first base and we knew he was trying to steal and has anyone gotten the pop time yet on JT Peter had it live Peter had it live on his 1.07 yeah okay that makes sense he's seen a lot of ball

then even have a clock in Australia He knows ball. I think we're ready, Beaver's. Let's burn it. Burn this baby down. Mm. Oh. Oh.

Game one of the fall classic in classic. It was the city of brotherly love, Austin's brother, Aaron on the hill for Ville versus Justin Verlander and the AL champion Astros. Bottom two, King Tuck.

Kyle goes big fly to kick off the scoring, one nothing, make it two after Martin Maldado gets the RBI single. Bottom three, and Kyle tells Nola to go tuck himself. Aaron gives up five runs and 4.1 all to Tucker. 5-0. Houston. Would the Phillies offense have the answer? Castellanos RBI single.

Are we having a Bowman? Alec with the two RBI.B. double, three to five, and then J.T. gets real Mudo when he says, tie me up, daddy. Five to five after five, it would stay that way until the 10th. Free baseball Castellanos catch, bone play, but it was one more JT swing that made it a special night in Philly. Apo Taco Homer in the 10th.

D. Rob Houdini holds on in the Phillies. take game one in Houston six five final. Good stuff, Jake. Good stuff. Was that burn brought to us by anyone? That burn was bought to you by Roman. You got it. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, we saw a lot of high testosterone stuff going on on the field last night. And Roman, they have their T support. If you don't have the confidence. If you know you have this going on, testosterone is so important to men's fitness and health.

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If I would have had that, then maybe I wouldn't have broke my forearm. Maybe. AJ Pollock. How do you guys want to go through this game? I mean, I got like some talking points I want to hit. Jake just recapped it for us. Do you want to stay pitching, starting pitching, bullpen decisions? What do you want, Trev?

I think we stay. We start with the starters because this was a matchup of two guys who, you know, we thought we're going to take advantage of the five-day layoff and put up some zeros. And it didn't happen that way. And for Nola is really just one guy, Tucker with the good swing. I think he had a changeup out first. Then he hit the heater out, 89 and 95. But he was missing over the middle of the play.

Both guys were. I think you probably have some stats on Verlander and the swings and misses on his breaking stuff. but we noticed the Phillies kind of like putting the barrel of the bat on the ball. They were fouling pitches off. They weren't necessarily barreling them up, but they weren't being fooled. They weren't fooled by Verlander stuff at all, and it just ended up catching up to him. And then there was a moment, James, and I don't know how you feel about this.

It was the top of the fifth when he goes back out. And this has been like a common theme in the playoffs. Nobody was up in the bullpen in enough time. Like he struggled through the fourth a little bit, there he starts off the fifth puts the runners on like somebody has to be up and there wasn't anybody up anybody up in time rio muto ends up getting him off the wall ties the game up and i think if you could look to one moment where a manager kind of zooed the pitching decision a little bit it might have been that like other than that i thought they handled the game really well topper did

a really good job navigating that bullpen but i think right there you you just have to when you see verland you're struggling like that and if someone's on base right away like you have to get someone up and summon up quick. It didn't happen last night. Yeah, I mean, at that point, I saw a lot of reporters and people on Twitter saying, why bring him even back out? Like, he's clearly struggling.

They just got to him. You have a deep, deep bullpen that hasn't really pitched this much this postseason because you've swept the two series you're in. And you have a game after this and then an off day to go on the road. So I was surprised. I wasn't not surprised they brought Verlender out. I was surprised they had no one warming and it wasn't like as soon as Marsh gets on. Okay, dude, let's just like let the other guys take over this and get out of this, but they kept going.

And I don't know, but we love like when they put trust in their guys, but it just didn't seem like it seemed like he was grinding. He goes down. He goes through the first nine, I think one, two, three, one, two, three, one, two, three, one, two, three, one, or maybe there's a double play or something, but I think he didn't allow a base run of the first time through the order. But to me, and I was saying on the stream, I was like, he doesn't have a swing and miss yet.

They fouled off 30% of his pitches. They had 27 foul balls. And if he was throwing a breaking ball or fastball top of the zone, the Phillies bats, and credit to them for being home runner bust, they were just playing spoiler all night. Like they had some long, long at bats. I think it's funny.

You know, Nola, they get to Nola. gets to Nola, I mean, two homer game, like unreal, right? The fifth guy you mentioned in that Astros lineup. And Tucker has his special day that Nola, we're debating in the live stream lounge. Do you pull him? Do you let him go? Is it, you know, do you go bullpen by committee and find out what you got going on? Do we get our guy Gibby in there?

I know you were texting with him, Trevin. Do you see if Gibby's got something for you this series? They let Nola ride, and more importantly to that, they let him ride because the Philly start getting to Verlander. And then I think the funny part there, yeah, I mean, giving him that leash and then seeing how short they were with some of their good relievers, I mean, Montero threw an inning, eight pitches. Nerris only came in for one batter.

He threw five pitches. That the whole game, when Nola was getting hit, we started getting worried about the Phillies and how many outs they were going to be able to get from Alvarado, Eflin, Ranger, Swarrow. What a big Cajon's performance by him. Sir Anthony and D-Rob at the end, that the Astros actually end up being the ones that came up putting Luis Garcia in extra innings, which, don't get me wrong, the kid's a stud,

but traditionally a starting pitcher, hasn't pitched in a while. The one pitch to Real Mudo ends up being the difference when everyone else did their job, that, yeah, if you take Verlander out earlier and you go to Abraeu or Narris or whoever it is, you can't let the Phillies catch up to five. We all said, like, the Phillies need to get their five off of Verlander.

And they ended up doing it. And then they got shut out until the 10th inning. So, yeah, man, that was a... What a good game, man. I mean, I don't mind having Garcia in there at all at that point. I know you have other options. They brought in Stannick. He gets a strike out.

But Garcia's been great all year. He has looked at the playoffs. Like, I don't mind that. JT just put a really good swing on that 3-2 pitch. But, yeah, like, Topper had his work cut out for him. We kind of know, like, okay, the guys that he trusts in that bullpen. It's obviously Alvarado. He brought him in in a huge lane.

He comes in with one out in the fourth, right? Or one out in the fifth gets Alvarez, gets Bregman there. And then after that, like, Eflin is a guy that we're like, you know, it's a little dicey when he's out there, but Topper's got a lot of trust in him. and I guess that means something because he goes out there and does the job. He throws one and a third, only one hit. He does walk somebody.

And then you're right, Ranger comes in and kind of a strange role he's in right now and just, he's just, yeah, doesn't care. Like I like we were talking about last night. Like when D-Rob came in, it looks like he's stoic and has a slow heartbeat. Ranger just is in there. Like, this is fun.

This is a game that I know how to play and I'm really good at it and what's to worry about. That's kind of what I see when I, I see him on the mound. He just, like, okay, just baseball. I'm good at this. The Bregman thing was awesome. I don't know if people, people probably, like, didn't even, like, really catch that.

Snatches the ground ball, throws it up to himself, catches it with this bare hand, and then it takes his time and just fires it over there and makes Bregman, I was talking about this last time in the stream, when you ground out to the pitcher, you don't really want to run to first base. You want to crawl in a hole and just not look at anybody. But because Ranger kind of, like, took his time, he makes me. pregnant, like give the run of shame down to first base. It's pretty good, man.

But Topper did it last night with his bullpen. The way he ran that. Awesome. My unsung hero for the Phillies is Bryson Stott. Bryson Stott saw 31 pitches and five at-bats, a 6.2 pitches per plate appearance. Now, I only had two walks. Went over there with two walks. He made every play that came to him that short. It turned a nice double play.

But his at bat in the top of the, fourth inning where Verlander thought, I'm just going to overpower this rookie with fastballs. And he went fastball, fastball, fastball, fastball, fastball, fastball, fastball, fastball, fastball, fastball, fastball, seven fastballs. And then Verlander caved and it was like, okay, shit, I can't overpower this rookie with fastballs. Let me try the curveball. So he goes, curveball, curveball, curveball, spoiled, spoiled, spit on, spit on.

And works to walk 10 pitches. That inning, I mean, if he gets. him one, two, three there. The pitch counts looks way different. The results look different. I thought that was a huge at bat by Stott. And then he had another one later in the game off of, was it Naris? We were talking about that, how good he looked and some of the mechanical adjustments.

His posture was a little bit different trying to get to that high heater with Verlander. He also looked good in the field, too. Making the routine plays that he needed to make, rolling some double plays and they needed to old dough play like he uh he's been pretty impressive man bryson from Vegas stannick in the uh 10th the walk in the 10th was another good walk by uh bryson stott yeah i mean jim i i was pretty shocked looking back in the box score seeing 0 for 3 with two walks that kind of looks like a bad box score and stop that's what i'm that's what i'm saying unsung like i don't think people are going to talk about him that much but

with with jean sigura below i'm just swinging at everything a little 0 for 5 No, Stott and Marsh both had some big time at bats. Marsh started their second rally to tie it up at five. And yeah, let's be honest. I mean, we all had a moment where it was five nothing Astros and it was like, oh boy, has the train left the station? What are these Phillies going to have? Because if they play like they have been, five runs ain't a lot.

Which you can't say that for a lot of baseball teams. Like a postseason game? and they did the damn thing, dude. And, I mean, Schwabo, it was funny. You know, we were talking about the layoff a little bit coming in this series. You saw guys get dialed in a little closer, a little closer, especially that first time through for the Phillies. And it is just to navigate Schwaborber Hoskins, Real Mudo Harper, Castiano's.

And I'm putting Bohm in there, man. Boom, you want to talk about a guy that's not scared. First pitch Yacker from Verlander, he drives that double that's two more runs. Instead of 5-1, it's 5 to 3. Like, he's not scared right now at all, at all. Made nice plays at third? The guy who's been getting defensively subbed out. And then at the same time in this game, Pena has one,

went off the pitcher's glove, goes off his glove. They ruled it a hit. Could have easily been an error. But, yeah, that's when one-game playoffs and all the, The analytics people talk about whether it's luck or small sample size or whatever it is. End of the day, you've got to make place. And boom, made a couple big ones. And that meat of the Phillies lineup, it continues to be everyone's problem this October.

We were on stream and Peter Moyland was calling for them to throw this game. And you said, let's call it. Let's save our good bullpen. Call it a wash. Five nothing. It's over. But we've seen five. run innings in this postseason throughout.

It didn't happen all in one here, but to answer like that, that quickly, because it wasn't like, hey, we scored five runs in the seventh. It was like, as soon as you guys are up, we're answering back. And that's the way you get back in the game and you can actually feel like you're back in the game. Like if you have to wait and you're putting some desperation runs late, it doesn't feel the same. But if you put them up right away in the third and the fourth, it makes a big difference, man.

And they, what a game, dude. There's so many things we're, like, we're forgetting about. Like, Maldonado, when his knock, when Chas McCormick ends up taking off, we were asking, is he going to steal? And I didn't think he was going to. Two strikes goes, he steals. Maldonado shoots the ball right in second base. They go up to nothing.

Like, it felt like real baseball last night, man, like a little bit of everything. Yeah, the Phillies didn't have a home run until the sixth run. You know, it was five to five and the Astros did it on the home run. and the Phillies who are supposed to only be able to do it on the home run. Did it by Falunoff pitches. Did it by Castiano's completely selling out and just poking that curveball is to get on base, which then leads to bomb come up, bomb come up who'd been swinging at everything. He had seen five pitches, five swings at that point against Verlander.

And his fastball, curveball, slider, slider, curveball, swung at all of them. And he gets the double. So the Phillies, you know, I don't know. I don't know if it's a fully chivalender. changed approach or just obviously they hit homers. That's what they do. But they got those five runs by getting on base and, and keeping it going,

passing the baton any way possible. Castion is also a little unsung hero here. He just was going with that to get that curveball to go with that head after that at bat being down 02. And then it's curvil out of the zone. And be like, whatever, I'll get on.

And then making the catch, which is a big moment in right field, with the Jeremy Pena catch where he goes, turtle back again. Like, you know, it's kind of the Phillies. They all played their part where the Astros, it was the Kyle Tucker game. There was, there was some artistry in the small moments, man, moment that it would get overlooked. In that fourth inning where the Phillies punched back for the first time, line drive

from Real Mudo in Verlander's gloves squeezes out. And so they get one out, but could that have been a double play? There would have been three outs in the inning. It would have been double play. Reese was so far off the base. after the game. He's like, yeah, I was done. I was toast, but Verlander ex-euded. The inning. Well, you know what, Trev? Text Riser right now and say, credit to you

for being so far off the base. You got Verlander's eyes hungry and he dropped the ball. Because he did. He still could have got him at second base, too. Verlander was so excited to turn that devil play. And he forgot to catch the ball fully at first. Where we saw Gene Seguera do that last series. And this. series he gets the inning or a double play attempt they don't turn the double play because you credit him travin like secure that out at second and he did and he took a little more time to gather

and make sure he really had the ball in his glove before turning it that was the ground ball to bone he took the extra steps at his feet to throw to him yeah that was Philly's D man we've all we've been talking about it him Castellanos and Bome two guys I probably was worried about at the beginning of the playoffs I think I even said those two guys names boom looked incredible at third base he made some really nice plays there. We talked about the bounce pass to get, I think it was to get Maldenado as well. And then, yes, Castellanos on that, on that little blooper that he caught, he took one look in and realized that nobody was there.

And it was his ball. And he freaking made a great, ran a great route. He ran a great route right to that thing. And you don't see him make a lot of plays like that. And man, it's bottom nine. It's tied up. Like you came back from five down, but you are in Houston. Bottom nine, Sir Anthony's second inning of work, I think.

And Altuve gets on, which looks like LOL Philly's defense. Marsh takes two steps back. They were playing super deep. Ball drops in. Altuvae should have got to second there. He doesn't. So what does he do? He steals the base.

First pitch. First pitch. And you get the most bang, bang, play you'll see. I mean, you could rewatch that a thousand times and you'd get 500 different opinions. Well, you get two different opinions 500 times. 500 different opinions would be wild. 500 different opinions would be nuts. I think this is soccer.

Like focus on the play, man. If Altova doesn't steal second, I think that ball drops from Castellanos. They brought the outfielers in a little bit with the runner on second to make a play. You'd still be playing no doubles, yeah, at that point. So it would be first and third. with Yordon up. That never happens. And yeah, the Phillies,

once they survived that ninth, and we all felt it, get Bryce another at bat. He ended up not being the bad guy. Oh, he just got another hit. He just got another single. So Bryce mid-per. Real Mudo.

3-2. It was the, yeah, 3-2, 6 pitch of the at-bat, and just kind of stays with it. 346 right field two rows into the stands I believe he said never faced Garcia before so you're just trying to have a good at bat when you when you're going up against Nate are going up naked against the guy you know it helps to work the count to get to 3-2 so you do see some pitches I think you realize right there like 3-2 maybe trying to go back door on me

let's just again let's just get the barrel to the ball no that wasn't a big swing he wasn't trying to put him up um with a homer but the pitch was elevated, puts the barrel there, sneaks it out to right field, and he's a hero, man. And Kyle Tucker, sitting there like,

what the fuck happened? I put us up 5-0-0. I'm the hero. Don't you guys know that? And instead, no one cares about his two homers, which sucks. Like, that's a historic day for him.

That's crazy. That second at bat was cool when Nolan knew nothing else was working, had to throw the fastball. because he already hit the change and he had no feel for the slider and he knew that

and comes with the fastball and it just gets bombed. The other thing, we're kind of weaving and through all of this but well, one, Jake, I think mid-pur's illegal.

Oh, I didn't. We bleep that out. So you're the first time people have heard that. So now that's kind of on your hand. Well, bleep me out. What happened? Okay, it's double bleeped out. Double bleeped out.

I don't know what's happening. I want to talk about D-Rob at the end, but I don't know if I'm, I don't know if I'm jumping, like, all the way ahead. We're jumpers. I mean, Philly's bullpen as a whole needs to be talked about more, but it started off with D-Rob,

because that was, that was, the craziest half-inning to watch as a neutral fan that you're going to see this year. Game one of the World Series, D-Rob, an extra innings throwing, reaching back for 94- couple times. Okay, D-Rom, but that was crazy. Through the heart of that order. And I guess, yeah,

I should say that my whole what to watch for or whatever on our, on our World Series preview was that, you know, I said if the Phillies released their big, their bullpen, their guys, they need to win. I don't think they can afford to burn these guys in a losing effort. So I got a little scared there in the end because you had gone through Alvarado, Sir Anthony. You even brought Ranger in. You got the 1.1 out of Eflin, and now you're at D. Robb through Alvarez, Bragman, Tucker. Is that it?

I mean, then, no. Yeah. What was that laying at the end? What was the three? It was Alvarez. Alvarez, Bregman Tucker. Penae, before Alvarez. Altuva before Pena.

I got a pretty nice start five there, don't they? So the D-Rob, but D-Rob came in. just for Yordon, right? Yordon, Bregman, Tucker, Guriel, and then Aledmiz Diaz the last. Yeah, because we haven't even talked about that hit by pitch. No, so many things happen. But this D-Rob appearance,

I mean, we talked about it. He doesn't care. Like, are you going to walk Yurdan? Are you going to pitch around him? The only guy pitched around was Yule. And I don't know if that was on purpose or he just lost his spot. But his fastballs to Yordan Alvarez made a,

I don't know, BPD, if you want to pull up our reactions, our audible reactions from the stream lounge, every fastball he threw, our entire room went, like we were like on the Tower of Terror and we knew we were about the drop. And that was scary as shit. Outside fastballs, 94 to Yurton with the Crawford boxes, ballsy pitches and maybe dumb, but got through it. I'm curious to know what it looks like in the box because, you know, I face D-Rob in his prime. It's different.

The ball looks a little different. He's got, I don't know if he's got excellent spin. That's what it seems like to me. Like his ball would just kind of like start at the bottom and stay there. Watching the game, I mean, those balls were kind of middle, middle. He got away with a lot of pitches, especially that, whatever that 83 pitch was, I think it was like a slurve. The spinner.

Spinner thing. He got away with a few of those. And then when he needed to make a pitch on. both Alvarez and Tucker. He found something. We talked about conviction or whatever the hell these pitchers talk about. Just throw the fucking ball.

He found it. And he got nasty with these dudes. Two, he just buried him in the dirt. Strike three. Yordon and Tucker, two of the best left-handed hitters in the game. D-Rob does not care. I actually want to go look at his splits

because he did feel way more comfortable with his approach to, Yordon and Tucker lefties than the righties and I'm interested to see if that is if there's any

realness to that or just kind of a feel of the day because those are the two scarier hitters but it felt like he knew his plan better against them. We have a pitcher in the building

I'm going to ask you a question right now. It seemed to me like his arm slot like when he had a righte up there he was losing balls arm side and I think he was like worried about that. You have the lefty

and you have that clear lane on your arm's side. You can finish a little bit better. Does that make any sense? He says maybe. A little better versus lefties this year. In every slash line, especially slugging. A 550 OPS to lefties

and very similar plate appearances and a 629 OPS against righties. So maybe he is a little more comfortable versus lefties. I'm going to go look at what he throws to each side. And we teased it a little bit, but okay. Bottom 10 in Houston. Bregman, double off the wall. I mean, gave it a little bit of a scare.

He strikes out Tucker, which some sicko stuff. Semi, I won't say intentional walk to Guriel. He made it, it looked very clear he wasn't giving Guriel something a handle, which is tricky with Guriel because he can handle a second strike. He showed his numbers. He was like three for five. Yeah. So he pitches around him and part of the reason he does that is,

I don't want to say the current hole on this Astros team, but their DH spot. Trey Mancini's in a funk right now. He's over for the playoffs. Aledmiz Diaz pinch hits for him just because Mancini's at bats have been tough. The 2-0 pitch, he kind of gives a little lean and you're like, whoa, is he being the ultimate teammate? Is he going to get Chas McCormick to the plate?

open up his barbecue place if he had to walk off Homer. Aled Mz Diaz, the third pitch, he leans in. And all of us saw it and the ump called it. Credit to blue. I mean, we talk about world's, you know, it's World Series for everyone. You're an umpire to say on the fly that a guy's leaning into one. That takes something. I mean, it was the right call and he made it.

So I, you know, I don't want to give him too much credit. Did you hear the Spanish broadcast of it? Mm-mm. So they have like the audio high up. They say chaosco? I don't know if you can hear that. But you can hear the um. Stay here, stay here.

You're fucking lean right into it. Oh, wow. You know, on the one oh pitch. That's what James Hoy, the um says. On the 1-0 pitch, he kind of gave the same thing. Kind of like put his shoulder in,

ball two, and then 2-0 pitch, another backup. off speed pitch. And it was just clear as day. I think the 1-0 pitch got it in Hoy's mind. And then the 2-0 pitch when he did it. He's like, dude, this is ridiculous.

Got it in everyone's mind. I think if you look at the hour live reaction, we're like, dude, take it. Take it. Yeah. Get hit. And then he has the same thought. And then he's a little.

But it's interesting to me. Okay, let's really think about this a bet. We mentioned that that seems to be the Astros whole. The bench isn't great for the Astros. It's not. You're sending up 11thus Diaz with runners on second and third

because there was a spiked curveball. You have a chance for a game-winning hit. And in his mind, he'd rather pass the baton and take... He doesn't mean anything. If he gets to first base, that doesn't mean anything.

He might as well don't even run the bases. Like, he'd rather walk than be up there trying to be a hero. And I don't want that out of a guy that I'm pitch hitting for or pitch hitting with in a World Series game. Then he goes up.

3-0 and he's like, this is my only chance to get a heater, takes a wild swing on a freaking bender and then 3-1, ass out,

ground ball to third base, defense replacement, Edmundo Sosa, comes in. That's scary. First ball. Have a throw, kid. Boom,

nails it. But that a bat by Diaz does not inspire any confidence in me. If I'm Dusty Baker, I'm like, you're probably not going to hit again in this world series.

I would have short-armed the shit out of that. He had some time, too. So I tweeted this and I've said it, but all right, you lean into the pitch, whatever. This is irrational of me. To do it with a pad on your elbow pisses me off so much. Now, if he does that and he doesn't have protection and I know that he's going to, it's going to sting and hurt.

And that's a tough place, the right on the elbow to take a ball at 80, whatever miles per hour. I'm still like good call, Blue. but all right as you tried and you got hurt for it for it not to hurt him to have a pad yeah

it's soft as shit that's what happens you get that pad you feel invincible up there I've made this point I don't think you should be able to wear a pad on your elbow unless that's your throwing arm

I'm for it that'll never fly because we want to keep it no that's in my mind you're you're turning on hitters you're a little I think Treve might be pro injury I'm not pro injury

pro injury pro injury I'm just saying as a ball player, Jake, you know, when you see a guy with all that stuff on, like you're kind of a little soft. Yeah. Unless you got hit there, you might have gotten hit, then you want to protect it from getting hit again. Sure.

Say that to Barry Bond's face. I would. There's a lot of things about Barry Bond's arm piece that people talk about. Google that. What else do they talk about? Does that something I have to Google? We need to make a fake political ad

that's Trevor Plouf campaigning for like pitchers. hitters wearing arm gear Looks like I hate everyone I'm turning into the guys that I hate Wow You want to dive into that? My day I never would have worn that Brian Dozier would have hit three homers last night

Brian Dozier loves high fastballs He probably has great stats against Verlander if I had to guess BD's on it BD's on it Peter Moyland what's why Why haven't you mentioned Brian Dozier's name so much today What else do we need from this game Because we still got a we got a T off

what we're seeing tonight a little bit. I guess we've talked a lot about the Philly side. On the Astro side, I mean, you get up 5-0, you get shut down by the bullpen, that's not a great feeling. But I think you just shake this one off, and it's a tough loss, but... Verlander ate it after the game, right?

Because, I mean, now 0-and-6 in the World Series and gave up a 5-0 lead, and, I mean, I didn't hear the presser, but I saw the quotes that he was, Clayton Kirshall would be getting absolutely killed for this start. Brian Dozier is six for 31 off for lander. Not great. Not great.

I didn't see the quotes, Jake. Do you have them? Disappointing. My team gave me a five-run lead and I wasn't able to hold it. I feel really confident that 99% of the time that I'm able to hold that lead. Unfortunately, I wasn't today. I need to do better. No excuses.

He gave that kind of pressure. Oh, good for him. of Peter Moyle and Brian Dozier is one for eight that's worse I can't believe I'm watching the Diaz bat now I can't believe D-Rob through that 3-0 pitch thinking he would chase it it's a guy's desperate to get on base

and he swings 3-0 at a ball out of the zone that's I might that's a bad at bat Tref it's one of the worst at-bats I've seen you think Dusty might not give him another at-bat just because of how bad that at bat was. It reeked of desperation. And I'm not saying that, I mean, look,

it's a great ballplayer or, you know, I don't know what to say about him. I'm not trying to bang this guy too much, but it was a bad of bat, dude, in a big time situation where you want your dude trying to hit a single, not trying to get on base where his run means absolutely nothing. And then, yeah, kudos to JT for being like, fuck,

the only chance this guy has right now is to jump a fastball 3-0. and he threw a wrinkle in it. It's true. D. Rob also is one of the Astros that came out, one of the players that came out and said, I'm still not over the 2017 Astros because he was in that ALCS as a member of the Yankees

and he was all still fired up or he was like, I'll never forget it. So maybe, you know, you have some piss and vinegar in D. Rob already to get through that and some balls of steel. And then you're like, oh, fucking cheating again. And then it's just motivated. him even more.

He gave out a big old fired up fist pump. And you know what I think we need to do, Jim? That's each other. I think you, me, D. Rob, Moilo, Plufe, BBD, Uncle Jerry, whoever else is in, I say we strap up to the Rapsoto machine and twirl it a little bit.

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Don't tell Treve. I won't tell Treve. Are we going to preview now? What are we previewing? What can we preview? The pitching match up? A little bit. Wheeler Frambit.

Framber. I almost called him Frambes. Frambas. Which I don't hate. It's badass, dude. Zach Wheeler, which our friend, Peter, they'll jump on for a second here.

You were saying this guy should have went game one. He very easily could have. There's some stats on. it. It's Zach Wheeler versus for Amber Valdez. Hello. Game two. And man, you start doing the dumb sports talk radio stuff, but if you're Houston, you got to win. Go 02 to this Philly team. Are you calling us a must win game? To go down 02 to this Philly team with the juice they have, Halloween game in Philly is going to be a disaster. Yes. All hands on deck. You have to win this game and you are facing a guy,

Zach Wheeler, who in his four-start span as a 0.51 whip, it's the lowest in any four-start span in a single postseason in MLB history. So, kind of a daunting task ahead, but do you think the Astros give a fuck?

Because make no mistake about it, people. We're talking about the Phillies, and we're excited for them for the comeback, and they snatched that game, and they deserve a lot of credit. The Astros don't care that they lost game one. They're going to come out. They're out for blood.

This is not a team that's just going to like, oh my gosh, we lost, we're done for the series. No chance. We've seen it too many times. They're too good. I love the stat for Wheeler. But that doesn't mean anything. This is a different team.

I want to see the numbers of Phillies, hitters versus curveballs this year. Because they're going up against one of the best curveballs they're going to see if Frambers on where he gets into that rhythm and you know it's coming and he doesn't care that you know it's coming and he's just throwing curveball, curveball, curveball, curveball. They looked good against off speed last night, right?

Yeah, they did, but they looked comfy in spoiling the off speed. So we'll see. Pete Timoilin has replaced Jake in his chair. How am I looking? Look all right. Thank you. Can I make a comment?

You feel the screen better than Jake. Can I make a comment about Wheeler real quick? Yes. He is de Grom-like if he can get his location locked in early on. And if the Astros don't score in the first four or five innings, there's going to be some panic. I really do think so. I don't know Jake just said, I know you just said they're the Astros,

but they're also human. Beatable. Yeah. Guys. Yeah, no, of course, anything can happen. And when you're facing a guy like Wheeler, I mean, it's very, very difficult. You pitchers win all the time.

You're supposed to win more. And when you have a guy that has his stuff and you just mention location, if he's got both working, yeah, you tip your cap a lot of the times when you go up against him. Upticking Velo in the playoffs, like a couple miles an hour or two, not just...

What do you got on the... Because you're talking about Vilo, the third time through, like later in the game, His VILA has dropped. Yes. He's been able to navigate that, but is that something you think with the extra rest that he's had is not going to be a problem? Or do you think he'll still continue to have that drop because of just how late it is in the year? I do think that's why they gave him extra rest is he's been dealing with third time through fatigue.

And his numbers on the year, five days rest versus four are like a three three array versus a two. I don't know how much I even believe in that. But I do think because they had to pull him early, that's like, hey, let's get this guy. I extra rest. It's still, and the issue, he can still get six innings, 85 pitches in. That's who he is. But if the Ash Coast can do a good enough job fighting off pitching like the Phillies

did against them yesterday, then it could be, that's their number one goal is to get Wheeler out of the game, and then they're a really good chance. Because back-to-back days with this bullpen, you know, you like your chances. Everyone's available except for Ranger, I think. I would assume so. I don't think Rangers is going to throw again this game, or maybe they go for the jugular and say,

fuck it, we'll just get up 2-0 and see, and we'll do the bullpen game, game three, and Halloween bullpen game in Philly. I don't think Ranger pitches tonight. Yeah, but who else would be their guy? Like, can Afflin go back to back? I think you're going to ask more of Alvarado tonight. Is he only through how many pitches, BPD?

Seven? Seven. Seven pitches. You can kind of empty the tank with him. You have the off day after that, so you can go a 25 to 30 pitch outing out of Alvarado tonight. Sir Anthony, you're going to ask a lot of him too. I can see both those guys being asked for four to five outs.

Sir Anthony with late in the ninth, maybe. And he's really shown, like, those are the two guys he trusts. And, like, D-Rob, I mean, we'll see what kind of role they put D-Rob in because he wasn't really in the plan. I mean, extra innings now he's in, but in a nine-in-game, he doesn't pitch. Well, well, it was tied. I mean, who's to say the Philly, if they were up by one, D-Rob doesn't get the ninth or F-Ls out early? I don't.

I mean, if you read Topper's quotes about having D-Rop, he thinks very highly of him in those moments. Who's their long guy? I mean, Brogden got Cindigieg. Polk inning, Cindergard, like they could dip into other, yeah. Gibby hasn't even seen an inning in this entire postseason, has he? to my knowledge he hasn't and and and and and and in the filly fans no I think he did see one inning

I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna share some Gibby texts at one point after the season and they have did and he saw one he saw one against the Phillies when they were down three seven the stuff he said against the podys says about this team and the

camaraderie they have and how close they are like he doesn't talk about he he doesn't gas anything up give he's very much a straight shooter they are playing so close and they're so behind each other and you can tell like with the abats that they're fucking taking man like it really you can see in the way they're playing baseball right now

are you buying in on that are you buying on the whole chemistry thing because I'm huge I'm a huge chemistry guy I have to be I've seen it and I've seen it go well and I've seen it go badly so I am and I watch the bravos do this last year man it's it's a real thing yeah It is, it is 100%. And, you know, winning, like, getting to the World Series and having this much success as a team, like,

helps with the chemistry. And especially, you know, they were down and out and people were counting them out. And then they rallied together. That really helps create that chemistry. But yeah, like, I think they are really adopting, like, Next Man Up philosophy on the offensive side where they're just working good at bats.

Like, we're not seeing massive, kind of what you'd like to call, like A swings. Like we're not seeing guys get off balance. We're seeing them work good at bats and and just be professional hitters. They're going to pop some out of the park because that's who they are. But I think they're really approaching it professionally. And they have a really good plan up there.

It's more than just the way the underdogs, we've got nothing to lose. It's they're actually believing themselves as well. I think it's fantastic. Well, they're fucking good. They're good. Yeah. No denying it, really.

Can I ask you guys? I'm trying to look up. So according to this, this is stat that FanGraphs has called pitch value. That is a little odd. But the only reason I like it is because it matched the eye test of the Yankees this year, who I watch every at bat. Yeah.

So it was like Donaldson struggled against high, VLO, but was good against this, blah, blah, blah. Like it says how many runs do they produce above average hitter against this type of pitch? It's kind of convoluted.

But it didn't match the guy. test. Anyway, Baum has the best runs produced on the Phillies versus curveballs. Okay. So that would be, and we saw him get a hit of a curveball yesterday, double down the line and have that approach where he's just going with the pitch. Framber's going to throw a lot of curveballs. So then I went a little deeper. I looked at him versus left-handed curveballs because it's a little much different of a

path than righty. curveballs and to see that the guys he's faced lucky for him he's faced freed uh he's got a pretty good lefty curveball he's faced he hasn't ever hit off freed so that that's good but a lot of takes and and and non swings power takes underrated power takes he just yeah he never swung and missed at a freed um curveball actually very rarely has swing and miss against left-handed curveballs the other names here you have kintana like snows Julio Urius Baumgartner

So he's seen his fair share Of good ones And he's got, I guess Above league average So I guess if we're doing what to watch for us Bomb versus Frambers curveball Especially if he gets into a groove Against the other guys

You just need someone to wrinkle that Yeah It's gonna be a hell of a game I can't wait to watch again If it's anything like last night We're in for a treat That was an amazing game That was an amazing game

It was awesome All right Is Jake coming back or we out? He's gone. Stuffed him in the closet. First of 12 bathroom trips today. Get this guy some clear eyes. My goodness.

He looks great. Sorry, guys. Jake sucks. He's out to 4 in the morning, New York City. Take your job. You guys go out again? Peter did.