Talkin' Baseball (MLB Podcast) - Recapping the First Games of the Postseason | 551

Episode Date: October 8, 2022

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Starting point is 00:00:01 Hello and welcome to Talking Baseball, game one of the new wildcard format. Cardinals, Mets. Oh my goodness, we got to talk about. Hello and welcome to Talking Baseball presented to you by Seat Geek, use code talking today. We get 20% off your first time using seat geek, $20 off, excuse me. Trevor, Plouffe, we got to get in. into it right away, man, because it is, I mean, I'll go corny at first, kind of like a historic day for baseball, the first day of a new playoff format and what that feels like and the energy
Starting point is 00:01:01 from noon to midnight today. How are you doing, Big Daddy? Everybody's got a plan to get punched in the mouth. I think Mike Tyson said it. So sure, hey, you want to save DeGrom for game one of the NLDS? Probably not going to do that anymore. What a day of baseball. It started at 9 a.m. Pacific Standard Time. I was sitting in front of my TV. I don't do that.
Starting point is 00:01:28 I'm an active guy, Jake. Yeah. I watched it all. It was a beautiful sight. The first game, we're going to get into it, but boy, oh boy, that thing was moving. It looked like Jake going first to third on a grounder to right field, right in front of Bryce Harper's face. Getting that bag. Right foot, bam.
Starting point is 00:01:49 Trev, we are a Cronpod, so we will stay a Cronpod. The Tampa Bay Rays and the Cleveland Guardians, some said, the least exciting series of these wild card games. I say no. We got two Shanes on the bump. Bieber versus McClanahan, two studs. The Rays draw first blood in the sixth inning series. You remember him from Houston.
Starting point is 00:02:18 He came over. A little Ray's devil magic. He hits a solo homer. Top six, is that going to be enough? Bottom six, the bad man. Jose Ramirez takes a outside change-up. Apo Taco. Clears it.
Starting point is 00:02:37 It's two to one. It would stay that way. They go Bieber to Class A. McClanahan got it to the Meat Clevenger. Guardians take game one, two to one, Trevor, the first game of this playoffs, the office was running hot. I know Magnum Condom Studios is always running hot. What did you see in this game? What was the difference?
Starting point is 00:03:02 It was a pitcher's duel, man. This thing was moving. It was like the fifth inning. I was like, this is, it's gone an hour, hour and 15. What's going to happen right now? And then we saw Siri, he was rocking the chain just like you're rocking. He had so many chains on. It was like he just opened the bag and put them all on or something.
Starting point is 00:03:20 I don't know what was going on, but a great swing there feeling good. Tampa's like, this is all we need to do. We got our ace on the mound and we'll run it to our bullpen, finish it off. But the problem is, the problem is Jose Ramirez is a bad, bad man. And you know what? The ball goes to right center a little bit there, but to be it, both those guys hit it that way. To be able to go that way like that,
Starting point is 00:03:49 you got to juice it a little bit. You got to juice it and he did it. And, you know, we had a little scare. I think I was texting see Rosie when it happened. And Rosario, they were kind of challenging. Did he miss the base, go back and not touch the base again? End up that he did touch the base. Thank goodness.
Starting point is 00:04:08 I was going live right there. Like, Snell was on my live, telling me that Rosario touched the base. that's all I needed to hear. Ted Barrett came on and said he did two to one guardians. And this is how, I mean, if you're going to write the script, if you're Terry Frank Cohn for game one to go, this is exactly how it goes.
Starting point is 00:04:27 Shane Bieber to Clause A. And they had Karen, Shaq, and Claice warming up there. I believe it was in the eighth inning. And I was like, okay, who's he going to go to? And then my mom was like, you got Class A, you're going to Class A. And he did it. And that's it. And that's it.
Starting point is 00:04:44 is it couldn't have worked out any better for the guardians. They saved the rest of the bullpen. Bieber put that startup. McClanahan was great too, but this is the kind of series we're kind of expecting. These offenses aren't going to crush the ball. They're not going to put up, you know, six, seven runs in these games. It's going to be low-scoring games because the pitching is there. The offenses are what they are.
Starting point is 00:05:11 Timely hitting, man, and that's what the Guardians got today. Yeah, the over-under for tomorrow, for those that are interested in that kind of thing, is five and a half, which is tragically low for a baseball game. And you saw why for different reasons today. Five and a half? Yeah. McClain and Bieber can obviously both pitch with anyone in the league. These lineups, especially the race, it's one game.
Starting point is 00:05:38 You don't want to jump to conclusions too much in one game in any baseball world. older league or anything. But man, that lineup felt thin today. I mean, they finish with three hits. One of them is a pinch hit from Paredes. Otherwise, top of the lineup, O for 12, Yandi, Wander, and Randy. If those guys ain't doing it for them, you know, it makes the spotlight a lot bigger on a Christian Bettencourt or a Taylor Walls.
Starting point is 00:06:08 Or Siri, who, you know, he gets the one home run today. I've always loved him. He's an electric factory. If he puts the ball in play, he's an elite baseball player. That's part of the problem, unfortunately. And yeah, like you said, on that replay, watching the Bentriac,
Starting point is 00:06:26 watching the whole vibe of that stadium was an awesome kickoff to this playoff, new playoff format and playoff weekend, wild card weekend. And yeah, I mean, for the Guardians, I guess the story's a little different. I mean, Jose Ramirez was Jose Ramirez, right? Two for four with the home run.
Starting point is 00:06:45 Ahmed Rosario, who had just an awesome, consistent year for the Guardians this year. He gets two. Josh Naylor gets a hit. Jimenez got a hit. Miles Straw. So, like, you know, they finish with eight hits on the day. Tampa only had three. And you mentioned Class A at the end and them going to him. Bieber throws 99 pitches. They go to Class A. Class A and one point, 1.1 innings throws 11 pitches. And circle that when we get to the St. Louis game later.
Starting point is 00:07:19 Because like you mentioned, this is how Tito would have drawn it up if he could, and it worked out and awesome. And Class A coming in, being able to throw strikes like that at the major league level, and guys can't hit you. Not many dudes are like that. So what else, Trev?
Starting point is 00:07:40 What else from this? game. Look, we said the raised lineup, you got to have the guys be the guys. Kevin Cash said Randy's got to be Randy. His postseason stats are incredible. Okay, but if we're looking at the lineup right now, Yandi Diaz, O for four, Wander Franco, O for four. Randy, O's Arena, O for four. And those guys struck out six times between him in those 12-a-batts. So it's, it wasn't a good day for the raised offense. And you have to give credits of Bieber. I mean, he was, Bieber has stuff,
Starting point is 00:08:16 but he also has command. And when he has both on working for you, you have to tip your cat, bro. He was just picking apart that lower quadrant on the outside corner to right-handed hitters with his fastball.
Starting point is 00:08:28 He could dot that thing up whenever he needed to. So you have to respect that. Okay? So when you're a hitter that does a few things to you, you start to push your zone over that way. Okay, he's working that outside part of the plate.
Starting point is 00:08:40 Now I've got to set my sights there a little bit. The problem is, is that he can tunnel his off-speed pitches with that fastball so well that now that you're guarding for that for that fastball down in a way you know the slider comes there and it starts down in the way and you're trying to protect but that thing ends up off the plate and he just started expanding it and expanding it and there wasn't an adjustment made by the raise hitters there's a few breaking ball pitches that were in the zone I think Randy got one he swung through but for the most part dude I mean Bieber
Starting point is 00:09:13 was prime Bieber, dude, doing whatever he wants it with the ball. And he had a plan, and him and Hedges executed it masterfully. Masterfully, dude. And then, yeah, I thought it was funny because you have Shane Bieber doing his thing. And you have the number nine hitter, Siri, up there. And he had two good swings
Starting point is 00:09:33 off him, man. First at bat, hits a long fly ball to the track, then he pumps him. And this is the guy you take Bieber out for it to bring your clothes in, because you don't want the nine hitter to face your your guy a third time through but that's just how it kind of works out sometimes he was he was seeing the ball well he had a couple
Starting point is 00:09:51 good swings off him and Frank Cona's I ain't waiting around to see this shit let me bring him my dude that throws 100 with a freaking 94 mile an hour slider let me do that in the playoffs it changes instantly whether it's Josh Bell
Starting point is 00:10:08 later he went from struggling immensely in his San Diego days. They Homer's in his first step bat. And it's like, okay, circle that guy. He's a problem. Same with Siri there. Man, I'm interested to see.
Starting point is 00:10:24 And I think what's really important about this, I think a lot of people like the Guardians in this series. I think the Guardians on paper have all the talent. The question was, are they young? How will they react? And the other thing that horrified everyone, and you have to be honest with it, it's the raise.
Starting point is 00:10:42 We've seen this team do it year in, year out for half a decade that when they're shutting you down, McClanahan's a stud, you know they've got dudes coming out of their bullpen. When they go up, won nothing. There is a little bit of like a hush around the office, like, oh, like the rays are down to polka again. And I think I love punchback innings.
Starting point is 00:11:07 I want it to become a stat that's tracked for teams. Jose Ramirez in the next bottom half of the inning that they put up that two spot and they say, no. Like your raised devil magic is not welcome here. No thank you. We're doing something. I'm interested to see if that impact carries into tomorrow and potentially Sunday if needed. But I think the Guardians, the Guardians showed today, like, you mentioned if Francona was to draw up this game?
Starting point is 00:11:41 I think if we had to guess at a box score for this game, we wouldn't have been far off. Like, it would have been really tough to picture McClanahan or Beaver getting touched up by either of these lineups. And yeah, yeah, Guardians win 2-1. They kept saying over and over on these games. The team that wins the first game of a three-game set
Starting point is 00:12:07 wins like 70-something percent of the time in the series. It's very important to get game one, especially when you're at home. And now you got Tristan McKenzie lined up with the Guardians, and you got the bullpen as fresh as can be. You can say the same thing about Tampa, though. You got Glass now for four, and then you got everybody behind him. I don't know if they're going to be all hands on deck. Is Rasmussen going to be in the bullpen?
Starting point is 00:12:32 Probably. It springs going to be in the bullpen. Probably everyone's going to be out there. It's a must-win game for them, winner go home. we're going to see another a really small score tomorrow is a 5 and a half is absolutely
Starting point is 00:12:47 crazy for a baseball game line as far as run scored and I'd say the under again man I could see a 3-2 ball game tomorrow this game was two hours and 18 minutes
Starting point is 00:13:00 was the fastest game since 1999 in the post season it felt that way too it was humming dude it was humming dude it was humming Big pitchers working fast. Defense is working.
Starting point is 00:13:10 I think there was one air in the game, but this is kind of what we expected from this series. Guardians got the first punch in, man. Now it's up for Tampa to respond, see what they do. This isn't over by any means. But damn, you got to be feeling good if you're a Guardians fan right now. Yeah, that 70% number you use. I'm so interested to see the bot, bab.
Starting point is 00:13:35 What does that come from, by the way? Because this is a three-game set. I thought you just made it up. If I'm being real with you. They kept saying it over and over, bro. I never had that stuff. Across sports, I don't fucking know. Just in life.
Starting point is 00:13:46 Because look, we did have this before because someone yelled at me. I was like, dude, I told Chris Rose this. I was like, he's like, the Guardians don't ever win at home in the postseason. I said, shut up, bro. Yeah. It's the first time we've ever done this in baseball history. And someone's like, you know, in 2020, we had also a three game wildcard. I was like, dude, okay.
Starting point is 00:14:05 But this whole thing, 12 teams in the postseason. and blah, blah, blah, is new. So I don't know where they got that stat, but I did keep hearing it. So I just mention it right now. Well, and that's what I was saying, and I used Jake language. I said the bop-bba-bah.
Starting point is 00:14:20 We've only seen one game. Let's see game two. Because I'll tell you what. If the race take game two in Cleveland, the pressure instantly goes on the Guardians. And I think we can almost transfer over to what game two will look like a little more.
Starting point is 00:14:39 Because you mentioned our guy Glass now. He'll be on the bump first. Tristan McKenzie, who is so good this year. By the way, you mentioned the speed of this game. Bieber, first Cleveland pitcher to go seven innings pitch in a postseason game since your boy Roberto Hernandez, aka Fosto Carmono, who I think you got him as both. Fausto, excuse me, was my first ever homer.
Starting point is 00:15:03 I went exactly where Jose Ramirez went today. Oops. I took that Homer to right center. And then I also homered off Roberta Hernandez. I mean, that's going to be, that should be a bar trivia, John Boy Media question one day. Let's talk more about me.
Starting point is 00:15:19 What else do you want to hear? Trevor, tomorrow, Tristan McKenzie. Like you said, I mean, pitching will be there. Glass now with a short leash. Tristan McKenzie with not as short of a leash with the year he's had, but bullpens are fresh. And if you're Cleveland, you play to win today, so you don't have to worry about tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:15:40 I wonder what changes we see from the Rays. I wonder if you see Esauk Paredes get a start. He's a guy that had a three-homer game earlier this year, I believe. And if you're hunting for offense in a do-or-die series, I think you've got to mix it up. We'll see what Cash and the Rays' analytics crew has drawn up. But is there anything else you're thinking for tomorrow's ballgame? I think you just got to go play your game.
Starting point is 00:16:09 I don't think this changes anything. The one game doesn't change your game plan. Like I said, you're fresh in the bullpen, all hands on deck. You've got to have your guys be your guys. That top of the lineup has to produce in some way, shape, or form. Timely hits, homers, whatever it can be. We saw today, I mean, and people forget this about the postseason. We want to talk about the guardians being this contact-oriented team.
Starting point is 00:16:37 and how that's going to mess with people and starting pitching and pitchers in the postseason. But it's about who homers. If you out homer the other team, you're going to win. This one just happened to be, there was a runner on base for the Guardians Homer. That's it. So I think if you're the raise,
Starting point is 00:16:55 you just tip your cap a little bit. Shane Bieber was nasty. He was disgusting. Get some sleep tonight. You're back to work tomorrow. I don't think there's anything needs to change for either of these teams. I think it was a good old-fashioned baseball game.
Starting point is 00:17:07 and it could have won either way. Right. Game was decided by one swing, and each way, and that swing could be very different tomorrow. Yeah, that five and a half under, the more and more I think about it, I might be riding with you on the under.
Starting point is 00:17:27 All right, let's go to Cron Potit up. Let's go to the Phillies and the Cardinals, probably the game of the day, maybe the game of the weekend, or if it's not, get ready. Get ready for an incredible weekend. And by the way,
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Starting point is 00:18:51 Speaking of insurance. Trev, we head to St. Louis, the Lou, baby, and Jose Quintana with a big ball start. I think, you know, we don't like to go there if we don't have. have to, but why not? 5.1, 2 hits, 1 walk, 0, earn, runs on the other side. Zach Wheeler, 6.1 worked himself out of a sticky situation or 2. 2 hits, 0, earn, runs. Here comes Alvarado, and here comes Juan Yeppez.
Starting point is 00:19:29 Are you kidding me? The pinch hit home run. Go crazy, everyone. there's zeros on the scoreboard until it's 2-0, bottom 7. And like you said, Treb, if you had told Oli Marmal that you could go Kentana to Hicks, to Gallegos, to Helsley, I think he would have said, we got a pretty good chance of winning that game with a two-run lead. And I believe the stat that came out was that the Cardinals are 93 and 0.
Starting point is 00:20:05 with a two-run lead or better. This year, I guess the past couple years. The Phillies put together a rally to save their season. Halsley kind of loses it on the bump. I know you want to talk about that, Trev. Long story short, the boys put up a sixth spot in the ninth with a little contact, a hit by pitch, ball seemingly getting through.
Starting point is 00:20:33 Aronado whiffs at a year. chopper. I mean, you want to talk about the momentum and how quickly things can change in baseball. Show them this ninth inning. St. Louis, he pushed one across in the ninth, had a couple guys on, but the damage was done. So Philly steal one in the loo. Treve, where do you begin, my man? Tip of the cap to the starters again.
Starting point is 00:21:02 They did their job. And this has kind of been a theme the first day of the postseason. Starters doing the job. Save for one and probably the one that's headed to the Hall of Fame. Yeah, how about that? We'll talk about that in a bit. But yeah, you know, it's interesting. We got to just go straight to Yep, his first pitch, Homer.
Starting point is 00:21:21 That was awesome. Aeronado put a jolt into one. I think he hit 103 off the back to left center. He looked like he thought it was gone. And it just wasn't. I think there was some wind going on there during the day. They talked about the flags blowing in. This one was interesting because it was Michael K and Arod.
Starting point is 00:21:37 You know, I love Michael K. I have a relationship with Arod. We'll see how it goes. You know, it could turn differently in our latter years of our life. I don't know. Aronado jolts one doesn't go out. Yepas does get one down the line. And we're like, hey, man, sitting pretty for Cardinals.
Starting point is 00:21:55 Hells he's in. First two guys he faces, no problem. I have a question, man. Yeah. I don't know what happened. They're saying he lost feeling or feel of the ball in the ninth inning. But the guy was lights out in the eighth. And he lights out to Hoskins in the ninth.
Starting point is 00:22:19 And Rio Muto's single was off the end of the bat on a slider. I don't know what happened. Okay. I was watching the game. There were some shadows. There were some shadow play. You talk about Cardinals Devil Magic. They love Shadows.
Starting point is 00:22:32 Adams. Bryce Harper's up there and all of a sudden the shadows go away. There's a cloud coverage. So Yadi kind of like sees that. And this is where I get confused. They're not confused. I want to know what really happened. In my mind, I'm thinking Yadi's going out there to try to get those shadows back. We don't need cloud coverage. We want the shadows for Bryce. He walks out, talks to him on the way back, they flash Marmall. And he was laughing a little bit, looking in Yadi's direction, being like, okay, I see what. you're doing big guy had a boy it didn't end up happening the shadows remain or the excuse me the cloud coverage remained and then from that point on elsie couldn't find it dude and i told you this on the phone and on the live stream thank goodness the shadows weren't there anymore because some of those pitches he was throwing were downright dangerous he had absolutely no control yachty was trying to go to the slider to have the feel back for him, but he couldn't even find that. And it was just like,
Starting point is 00:23:36 he didn't know where the ball was going. The pitch to hit bomb is a very dangerous pitch. And if you're a hitter and you're dealing with shadows and you just tell yourself, fuck it, I got to mentally, I got to dig in right here. If you do that and that ball comes up at 102 miles an hour, you're not getting out of the way, dude, and it's dangerous. So I'm actually really happy the clouds were there. But I think that's the story. here. I mean, healthy loses it and then they had Flaherty and Palante warming up.
Starting point is 00:24:07 They decided to go to Palante because he's more of a ground ball guy. But here's my thinking on this whole situation. I know Palanté did his job. He got ground balls. What are he supposed to do? And you got an all-world defense that I fucking talked about a lot. And they didn't show up. But on the Gene Segura ball, they played like the
Starting point is 00:24:28 halfway. Hey, we're not sure. type of defense. And in my mind, this is what you got to do. I think you play more towards the out at home. Gene Stegroar can run, dude. Right. So it has to be like a perfect ground ball for you to get two.
Starting point is 00:24:41 So why not just let's go to infield in type of defense and then take like two steps back. Because at that point, you can still, if a ball's hit right at you, go to second base or go to, you know, and try to roll the dough play. but you're setting yourself up for that play at home,
Starting point is 00:25:02 which is the more likely scenario if you get a ground ball. Because of the way Gene runs, Edmund gets caught in between. He said he was trying to do like a dive slash spin at the same time. It didn't work out. And then Goldschmidt gets a ball. He decides to go home with it, pulls the throw a little bit, not in time.
Starting point is 00:25:19 Bam, then Aeronado whiffs one. He fucking whiffed it. He got in between on a hop. And that's it. That's the ball game, dude. And that's how quickly things can change. like you said if you told marmal before the game this is going to be the situation we're going to have hellsley in there and we're going to have the lead boom i'll take it every single time but baseball happens sometimes man and it definitely didn't sand louis i want to give some credit to some different
Starting point is 00:25:48 places um hellsley comes in to get two outs uh after guygos walks stop on four pitches so that's important So they pull him. They decided that must have been their leash with Gallegos. If he lets one on, we're going to go to Helsie. He's been our guy. Just went through his pitching game log. He's a guy that he's done two winnings at different points this year, 1.1 and all that, and he's your guy guy.
Starting point is 00:26:13 So I get it. The Phillies batters. Helsley comes in and he strikes out Marsh and he gets Schwerbo to pop out. Did his job, right? You're already at 10 pitches. 10 pitches. You got to come in, sit down, and come back out. and he comes back out,
Starting point is 00:26:30 Reese, six pitch at bat. This is one of Jimmy's bigger things. He loves guys that see pitches because you get that one ball roll over and you change the whole output. So Halsley, who's now at 16 pitches, which is, you know,
Starting point is 00:26:46 almost an average outing for him, Real Mudo singles, Harper Walk, we're checking the hands, Castellanos walk, Bomb celebrates kind of the hit by pitch. A, because he's trying to win. B, because I think he's glad it didn't hit him in the noggin. Because that would have been a scene.
Starting point is 00:27:03 And then, yeah, it's the Palante Flaherty part. If this was talking Cardinals, I have to assume you just replay over and over again because you get the Palante part of it, right? The guy's been nails. He doesn't strike out a ton of hitters this year, so you're trying to get that ground ball. And you did, like you said, you trust your infield defense. It was funny.
Starting point is 00:27:26 I mean, the Edmund ball and the Aeronado ball, the camera guy got fooled because those are balls that those guys kind of just traditionally get. And then Goldie tries to make the play at home. In my head, that's tough to double guess in the moment because you're doing anything to cut down the run, but it ends up biting you because you don't get an out and another run scores. That, yeah, I mean, it's tough for me because I'm too close to the situation. And I haven't watched every Cardinals game this year. than we tell you. Knowing who Jack Flaherty is,
Starting point is 00:28:01 a guy that kind of idolizes the Joker, and I think, you know, Cardinals fans aren't sure of his role going into this postseason, there is a part of me that when I see, and this is an outsider, I haven't watched every Cardinals game, I haven't watched every Cardinals game
Starting point is 00:28:17 in the last three weeks. You tell me Jack Flaherty game on the line or Andre Palante, my heart wanted Flaherty, and maybe I'm too close to the situation. But you could have almost set the tone where he comes in and he's the bad guy and maybe you found a role for Jack Flaherty this postseason
Starting point is 00:28:37 instead of not being sure he got loose yesterday, how to use him tomorrow? I don't know. Cardinal fans, I can admit I might be 100% wrong in this, but that was just my feeling. You're not wrong. I mean, I think there are both good options. And Palante did his job.
Starting point is 00:28:52 There was, I mean, there were no balls hit hard in that inning at all. I think Arod even said this. I think 88 miles an hour was like the hardest ball hit that whole inning. So like this is just baseball, dude. That's it. It happened.
Starting point is 00:29:08 You know, the ground balls found a way to do damage, essentially. And typically that's not going to happen against the Cardinals. It probably isn't going to happen tomorrow. But today in the game, it happened, dude. You can question some of the infield positioning. like I did. But other than that, man, I think maybe the shadows, you know,
Starting point is 00:29:31 when you're playing the infield, they don't matter that much, but they matter a little bit. You know, they can, you can lose the ball a little bit in the infield, on a ground ball if they're shadows. That's just part of the game. But this is, I don't know, man. You have to feel great if you're Philadelphia. Alec Bohm was making the plays like Aronado.
Starting point is 00:29:53 He had a bunch of nice plays there. So if you're Philly, man Are they going to do Do they announce Is Nola going tomorrow? What I have I have Nola going tomorrow
Starting point is 00:30:11 Against Michaelis Okay I mean this is But before we go there I want to hit a couple things quick Pool holes Biggit bat with runners on And he hits the double play
Starting point is 00:30:26 You're getting excited for that You mentioned the Aeronado ball. He thought he got it. And by the way, too close to the situation with Kay, love him. He was nice to us very early when he didn't have to. And I think he's a great broadcaster. I thought he was great. And not joking, not being facetious.
Starting point is 00:30:43 I thought Rod was good. He had a couple lines that got me. He was when Aeronado hit that ball, Aronado went to Poolehost in the dugout and they were talking. And he did like a mock convo. And Aronado was like, you think I had that? like, yeah, Poppy, I thought you had that. And I don't know. That was just funny. He was like, that's what got you?
Starting point is 00:31:02 It was just, it was good A-Rod. Like, he, he doesn't normally get there. And then he, and then Kay asked him, he was like, did any, did any of your teammates ever tell you no? And A-Rod goes, yeah, Andy Pettett. One time he flat out told me, no way, man. That was not going. That's a pitcher. So I don't know. Yeah, exactly. So, you're right. Look, there were some A-Rob moments with that, okay, like, the insight was there. He's played in a ton of postseason games, bro. So he understands how they work, although he was, he kept harping on. Yeah. Contact and oh, look at these ground balls. They did all this.
Starting point is 00:31:35 And the ESPN literally showed a stat about out homering your opponent. So like there's some stuff like that. I thought Kay was fantastic. I do like listening to Michael Kaye. But yeah, we had the, if you're a Cardinals fan, you had everything you wanted. You had the guy in the game you wanted. You had pools up there in a big situation. And even at the end of the game, you had Yadi. even though it's not a great spot for Yadi right there. I mean, everyone was kind of sneakily getting ready for that storybook moment, but it wasn't meant to be. Shout out to a lot of guys on the Phillies.
Starting point is 00:32:09 Gene Segura, obviously, he's going to get remembered for this one. Bryson Stott and Veerling were given at bats at the bottom of the lineup. Very good at bats. That is important. You know, a game where Schwaber, Hoskins, Harper, and Castellanos combined for zero hits and the Phillies win. I mean, what a wild, wild game. And I think that transitions us into tomorrow, Trev.
Starting point is 00:32:36 Like I just said, Nola will be going. That's what currently MLB has, and I think he has been said. We'll see if there's any funny business. And Miles Michaelis, who's been really good for the Cardinals this year. I know he doesn't necessarily have the name recognition of some of the top guns. going in this playoffs, but he's been very, very good. Obviously, you're going to get good pitching.
Starting point is 00:33:04 Michaelis will have a shorter leash, like I said last time, and maybe I'm going to be saying this for every game for the losing team today. But, man, if you're the Cardinals, man, talk about letting it go. Like, you just have to say, when we leave this ballpark, that inning is done and over and will not happen again. because he kind of won this ball game, right? No, you didn't.
Starting point is 00:33:34 What do you mean you kind of won this ball? It was a tight game. You had your clothes there and he blew it. And whether it was a health thing, like you couldn't feel the fingers. And that goes back to, I guess, the end of the last game of the regular season, he kind of like shield himself against a broken bat,
Starting point is 00:33:51 came down on his hand, and they were talking about it a little bit. But dude, he looks so good early on. I'm very curious, man. Like, I want to know what's really going on there. Could he come back tomorrow and just be the fucking guy? Or is this a mental thing? Is it...
Starting point is 00:34:11 He's been absolutely lights out all year long. And he lost it, dude. So, I mean, something has to be going on. It can't... I don't see him... It's not like a moment thing, the pressure or anything like that. But then I go... go back to what he looked like before Molina took that mountain visit.
Starting point is 00:34:33 He looked great, dude. And then it fell apart. It's a funny sport sometime. Man, holy marmal. I know coming in, I thought he was going to be the manager that got questioned the most. Again, it seemed like he pushed the right buttons, but here I am, semi-questioning with flarity. Let's see what they've got tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:34:59 and man, could you draw up a better, ugly win for Philly? Like, this game, they were dead on arrival, right? Like, no runs, your big dogs weren't doing it. And then to put up that spot and peacocking, they're a dirty bunch, man. We've been talking for two years. We want to see what this Philly team would look like in a playoff series. And maybe we're getting the result.
Starting point is 00:35:26 I think if you ask anyone around baseball, I think they'll tell you this one's, this one might be the furthest from being over. But man, what a win. What a win for the Phil's. It was crazy, man. Crazy, crazy, crazy.
Starting point is 00:35:41 I was actually like watching this game. And early on before we move on, there was some chirp in. Hoskins was not happy about some of the calls that he had in the first inning. And then, you know, just Marsh kind of had that same thing when he pinched hits.
Starting point is 00:35:58 He was chirping, a little bit. I'd advise those guys, don't worry about that shit, dude. Don't give the umpires any reason to ring your ass up, dude. Hoskins ended up going over five in that game. I'm not saying that had any part to do with it, but those umpires,
Starting point is 00:36:13 they know how big these games are. They're on national TV. They don't want to be made to look the fool. So just, you know, you got to bite the tongue a little bit. Trevor, speaking of biting my tongue, let's go to your,
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Starting point is 00:37:11 What are the young guys doing? I guess Castillo's not a young guy, but he's got the style. I could see Manoa having a full baseball with the laces and stuff. Like his number. He's like a, I got my number. Yes. Like when he was a kid playing like youth baseball,
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Starting point is 00:38:20 It's playoff baseball. I did before the games today. Maybe playoff beard. I took it down. You're on the opposite way. And speaking of taking it down, Luis Castillo, what he did to that Toronto lineup.
Starting point is 00:38:37 Oh, boy. And does it look right, man? There is something, every baseball player, whether you're a pitcher, a hitter, infielder, outfielder, you have your own mannerisms and it looks different between your body type and your throwing angle.
Starting point is 00:38:52 Something about when Luis Castillo does it, it looks as pretty as it can. on a baseball field. And Trev, what this came down to was a mix of that and a first inning, which is so shocking because Alec Manoa, especially at home, I don't think he'd given up an earn run
Starting point is 00:39:14 in the first inning at home all year. He'd been lights out recently. In September, he'd been incredible. They put up, the Seattle Mariners put up a three-spoters, put up a three spot in the first. How is your big dumper to run Homer following your boy, A. Eugenio with the RBI double.
Starting point is 00:39:37 And man, that Toronto crowd that I've talked about at nauseam, you know, they tried to come back. They saw some big Vlad and Bichette bat bats. They could never really get back into it. They get shut out Castillo to Munoz. Mariners win for nothing. it's we talked about the first inning what was that gun to be like uh manoa likes to throw inside he's hit more batters than in the other pitcher in the big leagues
Starting point is 00:40:09 this year how do you get who the rodriguez out will you throw him high and tight ends up nailing him first at bat and then we also talked eugenio sweres i put the accent on the wrong syllable there that's my bad people a eugenio sworez it's been hitting sinkers this year and he took that sinker to right field and just had a professional swing and that silences the crowd right away and you're right dude if you're a crowd and you and that happens right away where you just get punched in the face like it's hard to recover you need the jays offense to recuperate and to give you something cheer about that didn't happen but cal raleigh's a bat i thought was interesting dude i was watching that he gets
Starting point is 00:40:57 one fastball to hit, misses it. He gets another fastball to hit. It misses it. He ain't going to miss a third. Rarely do you ever in a major league of bat, get two pitches, two good pitches to hit.
Starting point is 00:41:15 It rarely, rarely, rarely, I mean, we're talking about one percent of time. Do you get three pitches to hit and in a bat? And he did. He didn't miss that third one, man. And that, those three runs with a guy like Castillo on the mound, I mean, that is, you talk about drawing it up. If you're the Mariners and what you want to do, go out there and score first.
Starting point is 00:41:39 Shut that crowd up and have Luis Castillo come out and shut the offense down. He did, man. It was textbook of what the Mariners wanted to do, and they did it. Man, Luis Castillo. I know I gave a little soliloquy there and talked about how. how beautiful it looks, but, you know, some guys can also make it look beautiful and not get the results.
Starting point is 00:42:05 This guy got the results. 7.1, 6 hits, zero walks, zero earn runs, strikes out the side in the seventh. Your boy Chapie, Tapia, and Janssen, if I'm remembering correctly. Chappie was so dejected, bro.
Starting point is 00:42:24 He foul-tipped that one, and big dumper end up catching it. And it was just, he was just like, fuck. I know that feeling, dude. The foul tip feeling is one of the worst in baseball. Like, wait, I did the thing that lets me continue my bat, but it doesn't count. Let's keep running off the Castillo stuff because we have some really great notes on him. The Blue Jays were in scoring position just twice in this game. Twice. They had four hard hit balls all game. That's 95 miles an hour or higher. No extra base hits. He was throwing one and a half miles an hour faster than usual.
Starting point is 00:43:03 His sinker villa was up 1.7 miles per hour. He hit 100 miles per hour five times throughout the game. That's not typical of him. I know he thought it was hard, but a hunch? 17 batted balls, 10 were ground balls. You keep people in the park. You win postseason games. Luis Castillo,
Starting point is 00:43:24 you have to give credit to the Mariners front office for going out and getting that guy because everybody wanted them. every team was in on this guy and they put the package together to go get him and I heard whoever was on the game was it Kirkchin somebody was on the game I forget who it was talking about I saw I talked to a rival executive
Starting point is 00:43:44 and he told me the hall was just too much it ain't too much if you get this I talk to the rival executive yeah so so like yeah he was saying like if your other teams watching this series
Starting point is 00:43:59 and watching Luis Castillo pitching the postseason you're probably saying why didn't we give up that much for this guy he is incredible and then of course they signed him to the extension
Starting point is 00:44:09 this guy is going to be a mariner for a long time you talk about looking the part you're right dude this guy that's who you want in the mound man it's like zero fucks given this is what I got
Starting point is 00:44:22 and you have no chance the change up everything it's just it's the definition of we talk about it sometimes, whether it's guys in their approaches hitting or pitching, I'm going to do me. If you want to, if you want to adjust to what I'm trying to do, knock yourself out, but I'm going to do me.
Starting point is 00:44:39 I think there was a J.P. Crawford quote, not just to drop his name, but during the broadcast, where they were like, when he came over, they wondered, he said something like, how did he, how come he doesn't have a Cy Young, never mind, how doesn't he have multiple si-youngs with how gross this dude is? and yeah, man, there's something to a stat page, which I use a ton. I live on baseball reference, baseball savant, fan graphs, all those pages.
Starting point is 00:45:06 We talked leading up into the trade deadline, like Luis Castillo, probably the best pitcher available. Frankie Montes, probably the next guy available. I don't know how much of this is a salty Yankee fan, and if you want to reel me back, I'll let you. But those guys aren't in the same area code of what they can do on the baseball field. Area Co maybe is a little stretch.
Starting point is 00:45:28 But yeah, Luis Castillo is a better pitcher. So for them to lock him up, that 5 for 108 is already looking incredible. First, Seattle Mariners pitcher to throw seven plus scoreless innings in the postseason, Randy Johnson, Jamie Moyer, big game Freddie Garcia. Are you kidding me? Nope. Luis Castillo is the first one to do it.
Starting point is 00:45:54 And again, like, this is a, this is a vaunted, I mean, that's a weird word, but it is. Like, this Blue Jays lineup is what it's supposed to be. Springer, Bichette Guerrero, Kirk, Teosker, Chapman. I mean, Chapman and Springer, they each have two hits. Springer has to come out of the game and get some x-rays. We'll see what's going on there. I guess they have more than half the hits. if you're Toronto at home,
Starting point is 00:46:26 I know that's a bad man on the bump. I know the guy that followed him. If you don't know him, Munoz, sheesh. How do you hit that? You got to push a run across in this playoff game because I was told there was going to be a movie, Trev, and I didn't love this movie for them. I'll say the same thing, man.
Starting point is 00:46:49 You just got to put this game behind you. you got Gossman going for you. You know the offense can click at any moment. I do want to ask you about that springer hit by pitch by Castillo. I'm watching the game, man. Julio Rodriguez gets hit twice. There were some balls up and in. We know Manoa, that's just the kind of guy he is.
Starting point is 00:47:10 But at a certain point, if you're the other team, you don't like that. And people have heard me talk on this show a lot about how I don't like hitters getting hit. I don't. But I understand if Luis Castillo went there and went up and in to Springer, it's you hit Julio twice? Were they on purpose?
Starting point is 00:47:37 No, but you were going up there and you know you have shaky command, you hit a lot of players. If this was on purpose, I don't love it, but I understand it. I don't know if that's going to make Blue Jays fans hate me. But just think about it, man.
Starting point is 00:47:54 Your dude went up to their center fielder and hit him twice and pitched him tough in. Okay? This is the game we play. There was a quote on House of Dragons who play a dangerous game. Sometimes our game does get dangerous. When you're going up and in,
Starting point is 00:48:16 as much as Manoa goes up and in, there are times where you're going to have to answer for that. Not him. Clearly, he ain't going to be in the box, but somebody on the teams and have to answer for it. Luis Castillo goes out there. That was his one batter?
Starting point is 00:48:30 No, okay. You went seven and a third. But that was his last batter, I think. Trev, I don't think anyone... Do you feel that way? I don't think anyone should be mad at you. I think it's a gray area of baseball because, A, we don't know
Starting point is 00:48:43 what was going through Luis Castillo's pitch in that moment. Was he probably trying to get Springer off the dish and send a message? I think so. We got two leadoff center fielders. One is like the brightest up-and-coming star of baseball. The other guy is a guy that I try to laud who he is
Starting point is 00:49:00 and what he is in like baseball history for center fields and lead off homers. It's an up and in pitch. I'm watching it again. I'm watching it again. So one-two pitch. He was set up away. He did lose it completely arm-side.
Starting point is 00:49:15 Do you want to put on a base runner in a four-run playoff game? I don't know. Do you want to send a message? and hey, that's the other side of the coin that you touched upon. And Trev, we dove into this a couple episodes ago about Manoa, how he leads the league and hit by pitch. And is that effectively wild? And he's this big, burly character that intimidates you?
Starting point is 00:49:38 Well, maybe you're going to get the horns from another team. And maybe that's what happened. And maybe he also got burnt by it. He's got Julio Rodriguez down 02. And then he hits him with that pitch in the first inning. I don't think you want to do that and then look what happens. So I don't know. We'll never know.
Starting point is 00:49:58 I think we might find out more tomorrow with a couple of early pitches in that game. But I don't know. Anything else on this one before we talk a little bit more about tomorrow? I think the game plan is the same for Seattle. Go try to score first. If you're Toronto, wake the bats up. Robbie Ray back in town. What's up?
Starting point is 00:50:20 What's up? Yeah. I think both these guys are happy. both these teams are happy with who they're sending out there. But, you know, this series is very far from over. This Toronto offense came in clicking one bad game against the guy who you said just looks the damn part of an ace and is an ace. You just got to move on, man.
Starting point is 00:50:42 I mean, I don't think there's any pitchers that aren't available for tomorrow. Again, it's all hands on deck. It's going to be another great game. And by the way, I mentioned how good Munoz is. There's other guys in that pen that are really, really good that didn't get touched yesterday. So, and Logan Gilbert, who would be lined up for that third game or a first game of the next series, that guy's been nails. He's ready to go. So Seattle.
Starting point is 00:51:13 He's the only one. Him and Castillo are the only people wearing turst tomorrow. everybody else bring your spikes they might um there's an argument that Seattle might be sitting like as pretty as any team left in this wild card round i mean Robbie ray Gilbert i know ray hasn't been as sharp lately you didn't use a lot of your pen i know we said this with cleveland a little bit but we i don't know i don't know we listen pretty too yeah blue jays I want to believe. Jimmy can be tough on you guys sometimes.
Starting point is 00:51:54 He doesn't love the flare. Guess what? I like a little flare. I'm wearing three necklaces right now. If I was 23 years old and Vladito Jr., guess what? I already act like kind of an asshole. I can't imagine the swag I would have if I thought I was that guy. Bring it, Toronto.
Starting point is 00:52:15 Because if not now, it's going to be a loud offseason. Like you lost, you got your manager fired this year. They brought in someone else. It was a short film. These baby Js. In cons, it was only six and a half minutes, but they got a 10 minute standing ovation. I feel like you'd be a big cons guy.
Starting point is 00:52:39 Why do they, when, let me just talk about this for a second. Will they talk about these movies and there was a seven minute standing ovation? Bullshit. Do you know how long seven minutes is? to stand there and clap? It didn't happen.
Starting point is 00:52:52 I don't believe it. Not one fucking bit. Hopefully. Let's go Toronto. Rock it, man. Hopefully the fans in Toronto are ready, are ready to rock and give a standing ovation tomorrow. And a genuine thing in Toronto, you know, I pulled the plug on them at the end of our
Starting point is 00:53:11 predictions and we're Yankee fans and all this. Maybe you won't believe this. I am rooting for the Js, man. There are so many good baseball players on that team. Like I think they can give Houston a better punch than Seattle Just from divisional stuff and if they play with their hair on fire But all is not If we don't get a couple wins in the next couple days
Starting point is 00:53:36 Trev it brings us to the final game of the night I started getting wishy-washy when I started talking about the talent in Seattle and Toronto Because we ended up stumbling into the talent that's on this baseball field, and it is high-end, the starting pitching, the back end of the game, the Mets hosting the Padres, the Mets, regrettably at this dance. They had a couple games that they could have won that could have not had them in the wild card. They didn't win them. Okay.
Starting point is 00:54:09 We got Scherzer. We got DeGrom. We got Bassett. We got the home field. San Diego's got to fly out here. Scher gets touched by Bell in the first. First inning, a two-run big boy homer. It was kind of one of those homers that you were like,
Starting point is 00:54:28 no way he got it that good, right? He did. 419, the opposite field. It is 2-0. Make it 3 after Trent Grisham independent. He, his 184 batting average, goes yard on Scherzer. It stays 3-0.
Starting point is 00:54:50 The Mets had chances. They had runners on. They were waiting for that two-out hit. It never came home. And then the fifth inning, pro far, with the back-breaking Taylor-Walls, Kyropactor, three-run homer off the pole after the hit before that hit the chalk.
Starting point is 00:55:12 And then Mani Machado follows it up with a homer of his own. Scherzor comes out, 4.2-7 Ernie's. Shout out to the Mets Penn. They did their job, 4.1 shuddy. U. Darvish was U. Darvish, man. It's fun to watch. We saw a 95-mile-per-hour fastball. We saw a 67-mile-per-hour Ephis pitch.
Starting point is 00:55:37 He kicks it to Suarez and Garcia. Garcia hitting a hunch easy. Suarez with the seven-pitch inning. The Mets, you wanted to root for him. We were rooting for him. We were live streaming. By the way, we're going to be. live streaming tomorrow night. We're going to be live streaming every night. So come tune in.
Starting point is 00:55:55 Check out the JM baseball channel. We'll be streaming there. By the way, we've got some awesome merch. I'm wearing a pretty cool new shirt that our graphics guy put together. So you can support us, join us in a live stream. Check out our merch store. Get yourself something nice. Get a gift for someone. Eddie Escobar, my guy, hits the homer. We love that. We love getting a zero off the board. Trev again I will kick off. Marte was a part of this game. Do you want to start with Scherzer?
Starting point is 00:56:25 Was he banged up? Do we want to give the Padres love? You tell me. You got to give the Padres love. I want to give a few shout-offs before I dive into this. Peter Moyland with the Instagram story of the week. He posted the pick of himself playing golf. And he said hashtag wild card.
Starting point is 00:56:44 And that is Rubbin, salt. And the Mets fans wound. Yeah. Because he's got no care in the world this weekend. He's going to go play golf. He doesn't have to watch these games. Who cares? That's tough.
Starting point is 00:57:00 Mets could have been there. It didn't happen. And then I had a buddy who texted me before the game. And he said, hey, I think I'm taking a Josh Bell Homer here at plus 750. What do you think? I said, I don't know, bro. Maybe. Sure is shit, man.
Starting point is 00:57:16 It's the homer. And that's the name of the game. game. It's just, it's these homers. Scherzer wasn't as sharp as he needed to be. Made some mistakes with the fastball. But you do have to give credit to the Padres hitters putting the bat in the ball. We talked about how the guys the Padres have slated to start, Darvish, Snell, Musgrove, they've been coming in hot. And then Scherzer, you know, he was good. Then he gets hurt, comes back, looks good. Struggles, I think, in his last outing. Um, I don't know, man
Starting point is 00:57:50 This was tough to watch It was tough to watch because Once you have that fifth inning Three nothing is a big lead But then you go up 7-0 And the life is out of the stadium I know Escobar hits the home or whatever
Starting point is 00:58:07 Was he wearing bangle cleats What was that? You know Eddie, man They were orange with black stripes Is that a bangle or a tiger? I don't know what was. going on with that but this was it's all Padres man and that's uh this was without Soto doing anything he wasn't the one we called for all the guys that got traded to step up and we're really
Starting point is 00:58:30 saying well Soto let's go like you got hot at the end of the season can you do something turns out didn't really need him 0 for four for Soto but bell does a thing in the first inning and and scoring first how important is that in these series especially if you're the visiting team score first shut the crowd up a little bit it like get that momentum it really means something in these short series because it just put so much pressure on the other team and i know it's one game and you got to win too but that is what you talk about pregame hey let's go score first let's go do that and then you got darvish on the hill and did he have some base runners on sure but the things he's able to do with the baseball just
Starting point is 00:59:13 it's it's really really hard to have a plan of attack against you darvester because he can just manipulate the ball so well. I mean, some of the Ephus curve balls up there. Then he'll juice one up on you with the fastball. And he'll, that fast ball, you know,
Starting point is 00:59:32 there's a fucking 10 mile an hour difference in how he throws it. And that's with every single pitch. So really, you know, he might have five pitches that he throws, but it's really more like 10 because he's able to manipulate them and mess with you. And we saw more of that tonight. And I think, yeah, tip your hat to him.
Starting point is 00:59:49 the Padres in general. And Treve, that's a great point. Well, first let me do, I love the punchback. I said five pitches. Like, that was nothing because that's you Darvish. I think you might even have six pitches that he registers. Yeah, on any given day. I think there is something like he's thrown nine or ten different types of pitches this year.
Starting point is 01:00:11 The punchback inning, I mentioned it with Cleveland. And the Mets in the first inning, Linder, hit by, pitch, swipe second, McNeil, single, first and third, Alonzo and Voguey, and Voguey gave it a little more of a ride than people thought the ball was carrying to right field. How different is this game if one or two or three of those runs get pushed across? And piggybacking of where you are. Because we streamed this game, me, Joe's and Jolly, thanks to everyone that was with us. we were kind of saying in the eighth and ninth inning,
Starting point is 01:00:48 like it felt like Darvish was hitable today. But when you put it in the equation like you just did, a normal pitcher has three pitches. So say their fastball slider change. When you see that ball start to break in and it's their slider and they leave it over the middle of the dish, guess what? Tea time, right? For Darvish, like you're saying with that game plan,
Starting point is 01:01:13 there was a couple pitches that looked kind of middle middle, center cut. You know, Alonzo took a cutter in the first inning, his second pitch that was kind of right there. A couple other at-bats in this game that he got pop-ups out of. With those array of pitches, it makes it harder to line it up, even when he makes a mistake because you don't know what pitch is coming. So that's a credit to you, Darvish. And again, I've been trying to tell you people all year.
Starting point is 01:01:42 he seemingly gets forgotten in the book of baseball a little bit, but like a historic career? Like the fact he's still doing it at age 36 and is dominant and he's got this silly online presence, like he's a special guy. Profar, his big season all year for the Padres, comes up on the big stage. Josh Bell, him and Trent Grisham,
Starting point is 01:02:12 It felt like every time they were up, they hit a ball to the warning tracker out of the park. I don't know. Do you think Scherzer's hurt? I know you covered that briefly, but Moylan and Blevins basically alluded to it. He had the oblique thing, but he came back and was lights out his first start back.
Starting point is 01:02:36 And it could be a thing where it's lingering and he's not nursing it, but protecting it, I think, is the word. for. And if you're doing that and you don't have the conviction, the pitchers will use that word a lot. Sometimes I'm like, what the fuck are you talking about? But I get it. If it's like you have to finish off your pitches and you have to be really like, you just have to have conviction. That is the right word for. You have to have that. And maybe Max didn't have that tonight. Padre is relying in the long ball. It's strange. Their bottom third in the league in that category. I guess that's how
Starting point is 01:03:15 go some games. I don't expect that to keep up for them in the postseason. You got it off Scherzer. You got DeGrom tomorrow. Can you do that? Is he going to be on a short leash? Like, is it all hands on deck? Is everyone with the Mets available? Is Bassett? Does he have the cleats on too tomorrow? Like, what are we doing if you're the Mets? I think you have to just have everybody. It's obviously a must win game. But like, are we going to do any piggyback situation? Short leash, long leash. What are we doing, man? I would say no Bassett. I know you got to play to win the game, but I don't think Bassett,
Starting point is 01:03:53 because you didn't use Edwin Diaz. So, you know, in playoff formats, can Edwin give you two? I think absolutely. You didn't use out of Vino, who can be a high-leverage guy. Seth Lugo came out, and that's the win from this game. Like, the Mets bullpen did their job. David Peterson, a dominant little outing from there. I think you tell everyone that that's not Bassett that we got to get it tomorrow.
Starting point is 01:04:20 And Trev, I mean, maybe this whole conversation's for not. Because the guy who's supposed to be the best pitcher in the world, if you pulled society, this man would be the number one guy mentioned as the best pitcher in the world right now. Jacob de Grom is on the bump. And, hey, Padre fans, you probably don't want to hear this. I mean, I hope we get a legendary performance because it's how good this guy is.
Starting point is 01:04:49 I mean, it's an unfair ask to ask anyone to give a legendary performance, especially, you know, he's still working his way up to be like full Jacob de Grom. But at City Field, season on the line, Scher was clearly dealing with something that, man, oh man, I, um, it's the game I'm most excited for tomorrow because of Jacob de Grom.
Starting point is 01:05:14 going back to the Scherzer possible injury. He spoke after the game. He kept saying my fastball was running on me instead of riding up. And that typically means something's going on mechanically. Whether you're compensating this way, something's off. With a guy like Scherzer who's a workaholic and really focuses on his mechanics and making sure everything's lined up and going the right way, that's a shock to hear him say that.
Starting point is 01:05:47 It makes me think, yeah, maybe he has been compensating for that oblique and things were just a little bit different because they did get to that heater. I think Profars was like a little cutter, but Bells was a fastball. I think Grishman's was a fastball. And he said, I use that heater to set everything else up. If you don't have that working the way that you want it to work, then you can't set up everything else. and you're going to get bit by some of these long balls, and you did.
Starting point is 01:06:17 I'm excited for tomorrow. On the other side, San Diego, who Trev, you did pick to win this series, has Blake Snell going tomorrow? Who Blake Snell had an incredible second half. You know he's not afraid of the moment. Heck, I should stop saying incredible second half. He ended up with 24 starts in a 3rd.
Starting point is 01:06:44 388 ERA. He had a much better second half than a first half. But Blake Snell, and I know he was also in your IG Live, flex on him. Crushing it in my IG Live. 14 starts a 219 ERA, 105 punchouts, and 78 innings pitch. He has only gotten better as this season has gone on. If you're the Mets, you better find some big boy stuff. I mean, Alonzo's better versus lefties.
Starting point is 01:07:14 You're probably going to see the kid Alvarez in it, D.Hs as they're looking for some Mets magic there. I talked about Seattle being set up good with Robbie Ray and Gilbert. The Padres with a win in the bag and then Snell and Musgrove to win one game. The Padres are sitting pretty, Treve. I told you These guys have no hit type stuff It just takes right now
Starting point is 01:07:49 For the Padres to move on Is one good start From guys that have been giving you good starts A lot in the second half And that have had a career of good starts So Snell seems chill as ever Ready to go on the bump
Starting point is 01:08:06 But by no means is this series over I know all the stats for these three games series again how the hell do we even know small sample size will you do it to me i don't know man that game one does mean a lot though doesn't it it's what we're gonna like it's what we're gonna find out and that's why i i had my weird but umpadant thing that that you didn't understand and people shouldn't i don't know what you yeah what is that but guess what for all these game two is the first time that we're watching these three game wild card formats if the race punch back and they win, and then the pressure's on the Guardians for game three at home.
Starting point is 01:08:49 If Toronto, they put on a show tomorrow, and then they're going to game three, and they're building. They're going to be all sorts of juiced up. The Cardinals, like I said, they kind of thought they won a game, and then they didn't, they lost it at the end. If they come back and win, and they've got one more game to go to save their season, and the New York Metropolitan, are you kidding me? DeGrom, that place should be electric.
Starting point is 01:09:14 he's got a chance to have a special performance. This game, I know Cleveland and Tampa we talked about, how the offenses could be shut down. Snell de Grom through seven innings? I mean, can I bet on zeros on the board through that? I think you can. First five, they got those bets. I'm excited to see this Mets team in Buck Show, Walter,
Starting point is 01:09:39 and we're not the Mets. The other thing that's tough, Trev, I watched this game with Jolly. They've had four games now that were kind of must win, and they've gone 0 and 4 in them. And when Peter Moyland's posting his IG stories from the golf course, it's in your head a little bit. And it's either, you know, it's literally go now or go home.
Starting point is 01:10:06 And I guess a guy that we haven't mentioned yet who hopefully Mets fans can circle as an X factor for the rest of this series, Starlin Marte brought it tonight with the finger taped up defensively, offensively stealing bags. We're not sure he's going to be on the roster. I think him and Escobar got to go up the lineup tomorrow. It's do or die.
Starting point is 01:10:30 And that stuff is what makes these short series so fun and so interesting is what is Buck going to make this lineup look like tomorrow. But dude, hand it to your guys. Lindor, you got to do something. Pete, you got to do something. Those two guys, you got to be the offense. You have to be the spark plug, whatever it may be.
Starting point is 01:10:54 Those are the guys that have to go. That's bottom line, dude. You've got to have them step up, okay? Like, it's awesome when we have the guys at the bottom and the order do some things for you. Great. That's extra, bro. Like, your guys need to be your guys. So if you're the Mets, it's one thing you got to look out for is,
Starting point is 01:11:15 Are our guys, Lendor and Pete, are you going to go up there and get to Snell early and set the tone? It's the bottom line. If Snell goes through that lineup the first time and it's like a hot knife through butter, that stadium is going to be low again. The energy is not going to be there. And then it just becomes like the Padres series to win. Like you got to go from the get-go. I really, really believe, especially in these short series,
Starting point is 01:11:44 You got to score early. You got to go out there and do it early, dude, because the pressure just starts to mount. We heard a lot of these broadcast talking. And Arod, okay, I'll give a little bit of credit here, okay? When I was watching that game, he talks about how a seven-game series is so much different than a three-game series.
Starting point is 01:12:02 Like, there is room for air in a seven-game series. If you bobble a ball or you make an air, it's okay. Like, there's baseball to be played. When you pair it down to a three-game set, every single thing matters scoring first matters momentum matters because not only for statistics but like when you're playing defense and you got to lead you're playing defense a little bit easier a little more carefree when you're playing defense and you're behind and or it's a close game like you get a little you know tense there like it just it's a it's a butterfly
Starting point is 01:12:37 effect with everything go out there for the men's get on the board early that's what that's what you have to do. And then you got DeGrom going for you. Like, like I said, this is not, none of these series are over. I don't want to hear it with the percentages and whatnot. But I think that the momentum in scoring first is paramount
Starting point is 01:12:56 for the teams that have lost game one. Final question before we call it. How many game threes will there be on Sunday? I don't know, man. Let me go over him real quick. Has you got to be quick? I think, sorry, I'm fired up right now. I think the Ray's sneak one out.
Starting point is 01:13:19 I think the Ray's guardian goes three. I do. I do. Cardinals, Phillies, goes three. That's going three. It's going three. There's no doubt in my mind.
Starting point is 01:13:32 I think the Mets win this next one because I just, I believe in the Grom. I love you, Snell. I love you, bro. And what's the other one? Mariners.
Starting point is 01:13:42 Mariners Blue Jays. Hesotent. I think that I think that'll be. a sweep. Mariners are doing it right now. I think we get three. I think I'd flip-flop. I think Cleveland just gets it done.
Starting point is 01:13:59 I think they're a better team. Tristan. I'm on board with it. I'll change my answer to that. Let's go. Hey, because who knows anything about what's going to happen? You don't? I don't.
Starting point is 01:14:13 And nobody listening here knows what the hell is going to happen. That's the beauty of baseball, man. And as everybody knows, these playoffs and where me and Zach met was on set. At anything goes, it's late. Thank you, everyone. That joke was for Zach mostly. Do you want a deep dive into some more stuff?
Starting point is 01:14:32 Yeah, me and Trevor will be live on his Instagram live for the rest of the night, just talking about different players and their performances. Thank you guys again, streaming tomorrow, streaming every night, and we'll have the recaps out to you podcast. normal normal shmormal as you saw on the YouTube we're chopping him up per series thank you guys John Bino says his best we're trying to figure out how to work him in while he comes back from his sister's wedding and then once he's back he's in so about to work this beef jerky in my mouth right now how about that all right hit
Starting point is 01:15:07 hit music or something Zach let's get out of here got late got late real fast I love baseball so much, dude I'll watch A-Rod talk about it Jake sucks Yeah, you're a jerky guy Oh yeah It's dark It's elk

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