Talkin' Baseball (MLB Podcast) - The Script Flipped in Every Series! | 557

Episode Date: October 15, 2022

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Starting point is 00:00:01 Hello and welcome to Talking Baseball, the three ups, not division winners, but favorites lose last night. And we're going to talk all about it here on Talking Baseball. Let's do it. Braves didn't win the division. No, they did. The three division winners lost. Fuck. I had it, man.
Starting point is 00:00:23 He blew it. Hello and welcome to talking baseball. It's brought to you by Seek. You can use code John Boy playoffs to get 10% off any ticket order. Doesn't matter if you use them already or not. It's October 15. We're recapping the three games that happened yesterday. As I said so flawlessly in the intro,
Starting point is 00:00:45 all the division leaders, winners lost. I forgot the Braves won the division at the end because it was only there for like two days. They did. All the teams with buys lost. Are you really trying to do this to Mets fans right now? You might be doing it to Braves fans. I think both fan bases are going to be mad at me about that,
Starting point is 00:01:07 and it's just a natural mess up. You're going to do all that work? and then let the Phillies get you? We'll talk about it. Go, Phil's go. Jake, how are you? Trev, how are you? Hot, let's talk baseball.
Starting point is 00:01:20 All right, you're hot? You know why I'm good. I had a couple of martinis last night. My friend Jack Strobel got engaged. I'm not clapping for that. I'm wearing shorts today. Oh, that's... Wait, no, you always wear shorts.
Starting point is 00:01:35 Nah. Nah. Not his mugsies. Dude, once the weather flips, all my shorts go in the attic and my jeans come out. I'm like a hard line. Jeans shorts. They don't mingle.
Starting point is 00:01:47 Yeah. Has it flipped over there? Are we getting cold? Yeah, but yes or is how to shit at the Yankees game. Jake, tell them about it. Let's burn it. It was hot as is at the Yankees game. We're seat geek, John Boy playoffs, tickets, 10% off.
Starting point is 00:02:00 Love. Use it as much as you want. Hard. Game two in the boogie down Bronx. Shane Bieber. Better watch out for Celine. E. E. Er, taking the mound for the guard dogs verse, are you the one they call Cortez?
Starting point is 00:02:19 Nestor Cortez getting his playoff beak wet in the Bronx. Bottom one, hit the music. Junkalo, let the rhythm take you over, Jum Carlo. Tequiero, two run homers. It's two nothing, yanks, a baby, but Andres is him. Jimenez with the RBI single. It is two to one, and then Rosario hits one to the barrio. We are tied up at twos, just like a good night out, treb.
Starting point is 00:02:53 And then we're going Buenos Cantos. We're into the 10th. Nobody scored. Oh, a bloop and a bloop and a bloop. The Guardians put up a two spot on the board to make it fortitude. What fortitude by those baby guards? The Yanks can't put a rally together And oh no
Starting point is 00:03:16 The Guardians steal one in the Bronx As they head back home And now they have home field advantage Guardians win for to Chil Trev you were watching this game Jake and I were at this game BBD was at this game It was fun for one inning
Starting point is 00:03:36 And it sucked as a Yankee fan Guardians fan and third party It was probably I don't know Actually as a guardians fan It's definitely fun As a third party Treb was this a good game game or is this boring? The lack of
Starting point is 00:03:49 offense, the lack of hitting with runners in scoring position lends itself for me at least to kind of a boring game but then you start to think about just some of the pitchers that are going now. I mean, they're hot and that's kind of what happens in the playoffs. You'll get some guys going on runs, some bullpens stepping up
Starting point is 00:04:05 as the guardians have. So, you know, it was good. The way that the guardians ended up scoring their runs is just absolutely heartbreaking. Guardians baseball, though. I guess, you know, I don't know. You don't really rely on the bloop too much.
Starting point is 00:04:23 I get that they put the ball and play. But that was a tough one for me. I think I want to jump there because you have Jose Ramirez, Duncan one out there. They have the shift on him. So Donaldson's around shortstop, and you have Cabrera out there in left field, who, I mean, are we calling him an outfielder now?
Starting point is 00:04:42 Is he? He's a talented fielder, his best position. are the infield. He is like solid in the outfield, but it's very much like he's really good at defense, so we'll put him in the outfield. It looks good in right field. Left field at Yangu Stadium is vast.
Starting point is 00:04:57 It's larger. And I think left field is the harder outfield to play as the two corners. Gallo couldn't do it. It's those balls. You know, the ones, a fly ball, you know, some hard hit balls in the gap. Like those are kind of plays that you don't need.
Starting point is 00:05:15 to be an outfieler to go get. Now, it's these plays that can change when you don't have someone that's been out there their whole life. You got your third baseman slash shortstop, Donaldson, going out for the ball. Cabrera's coming in. Now, Donaldson, in my opinion, when he knows he can't get to the ball, he needs to be very vocal there. He's got to be a you, you, you, you, take it, take it, take it.
Starting point is 00:05:42 That way Cabrera can continue his full head of steam to come get that ball. That's what he needed to do. It looked like to me that they both kind of saw each other. They hesitated. I saw Cabrera's eyes go to Donaldson kind of at the last second, and then back to the ball. And he whiffed that thing. I know it ended up looking like he almost caught it,
Starting point is 00:05:59 but he had really no chance as soon as he took his eyes and went to Donaldson. And you know what? That all could have been okay. You keep Ramirez on second base, but Donaldson decides to, you know, he tried to make up for maybe a misplay. So as it passed them, they get a run on third, then another blue pit. It was.
Starting point is 00:06:20 Yeah, and the infield comes in because of that. And then the infields with the infield in. That was pretty demoralizing turn of events. But that is Guardians baseball. And I don't say that as the knock. Like they are the 2015 Royals. I think you compared them to that team. It's contact, contact, contact, and pitching.
Starting point is 00:06:36 That's their strategy. And they have an outfield that can go get the ball. I mean, that's their ammo. Like put three outfielers out there that can play defense. with the best of them. It's very demoralizing for hitters when you have that out there. But yeah, I agree. It's it,
Starting point is 00:06:50 they're comparable for sure. There was no extra base hit. There's no doubles. That's what we were kind of halfway through the game. There was, I think 12 hits, two home runs, Jimenez,
Starting point is 00:07:01 Homer, Stanton Homer, and then 10 singles. And they were all softly hit, found all for the Yankees as well, Glaber had two, IKF had two. And then for the Guardians. And then Naylor gets his double word.
Starting point is 00:07:14 Bader kind of got turned around. but he whacked that one. Yeah, you, Trave, you mentioned the Guardians outfield defense. I mean, Kwan played mostly center field in the minors, and he's just been playing like almost a gold glove caliber left. I know there was one or two balls out to left field that weren't even a question. It was easy money for him. Yeah, it's tough when the game comes down to that,
Starting point is 00:07:35 because, you know, when we did talk in Yanks when we got back yesterday, I was trying to separate things into a good and bad column. Beaver and Nestor, they kind of exchange blows, very similar. starts by the end of it. All right. Wash your hands. Either went longer, right? 5.2, Nestor went 5. Oh, wow. I thought he was out there. No. So, and then kudos to each team's kind of plan bullpen.
Starting point is 00:07:58 Trevor Stefan, 1.1, 4 strikeouts. Good for you. Karen Chack. He had the wild thing going on a little bit, but he ends up not getting hurt by it, and mostly because of the dude behind him, Class A with a 2.1 inning performance. in the bad dude, 33 pitches, 29 from Caratrick, 21 from Stefan. Stephan, excuse me, Stefan, I always think of family matters. Family just do matter. The Yankees, their good bullpen right now is Trevino, Loisaga, Wandi Peralta, and they're trying to make Clay Holmes happen.
Starting point is 00:08:33 All four of those guys do their job, and they all stay under 17 pitches. So that left the Yankees going to Jameson, in his first ever relief pitching appearance. And like you're saying, I mean, it's tough. I'm too close to JMO. He's been very nice to us with Yanks and even on his Pirates Day. We interviewed him in a parking lot, and he's just a really nice dude.
Starting point is 00:08:57 You know, for that first ball to drop. And, you know, think about who's missing right now. Andrew Ben and Tendi, a gold glove left fielder. Does he get that ball? I don't know. I don't know. I would have loved to find out. Yes, he does.
Starting point is 00:09:09 There you go. And then, you know, like you're saying, the next batter, it would have been a pop-up right to where Rizzo normally stands at first, but infield in, it's over his head. And just like that, it's three to two and you leave a ball to nailer. And yeah, outside of all that, the Yankees' offense shut down for a full baseball game. They scored in the first, and then they got shut out for nine innings. The Tyone stuff, those pitches, they were still dead center, the second two.
Starting point is 00:09:38 they were in that two-strike curveball to to um to Gonzalez it's a bloop hit but i mean he just if you look at the pitch back it's like he didn't want that so center cut but it's his first time coming out of the pen and he's struggled in the first inning of being sharp with his location defense really failed him the guardians yeah he pitched great like i don't think he should hang his head at all like those you you have two you need uh should be out yeah it's And then Naylor, it was a long combat. He ends up, you know, putting one over the plate there. But if those two first two balls get cut, you have a two out double, whatever.
Starting point is 00:10:18 Like, it's, we're talking so much differently about Tyone and him coming out of the pen. What's tough. Balls that had the expected batting average of like 0.05, you know, it's. Yes. You can't hang this on him. I'm not hanging on him. But it's just a part of the formula. Once that ball drops and J. Ram's on third, you need strikeouts.
Starting point is 00:10:37 And Tyone doesn't get strikeouts. He's very heavy in the zone. He's very ball and plague, and that's a bad formula. Also what the guardians do. Exactly. So it's just a bad formula and you got to keep him out there. I would have liked other people out of the pen first that kind of get strikeouts and end-of-game situations. I said that two weeks ago, so it's not like a new thought.
Starting point is 00:10:55 Who would you have gone to? Well, one, I wouldn't have used the bullpen the way they did. I said that at the same time. They took everyone out of 15 pitches. And I agree with that. And they didn't need to take everyone out of 15 pitches in a tie game. Are they trying to preserve the guys? Is that why they're doing that?
Starting point is 00:11:09 Yes, the Indians, the Guardians very much played to win this game. And Boone very much used his bullpen to save. Think about this. Our best three guys, Luizaga, Wandi Peralta, and Trevino, all through 15 pitches, one of them through 16. And they didn't need to. They could have gone longer. Their best reliever, Clause, went 2.1 innings. He pitched over three innings during the regular season.
Starting point is 00:11:36 That dude didn't pitch over the course of two innings. not once. He had one up down in the wild card against the raise, and now he's got two up downs in this series, and they played to win the game. And I want to just talk about Clausey and give the guardians their due. Like, he is so good.
Starting point is 00:11:53 Mets fans keep getting mad at me every time I said this. He was the best closer in baseball or relief pitcher because he got used scenarios without a save opportunity too. Like, I tweeted out the numbers yesterday. This guy is a stud. And he might not have the strikeouts, But who cares? Because he gets outs.
Starting point is 00:12:10 And then when I did the solo episode a while ago, I was detailing all of this. He doesn't let people on base. He pitched in 77 games in the regular season. 70 of them, he did not allow a walk. His whip was 0.7. And that's what you want out of a reliever is a guy who doesn't give up base runners. I mean, this guy, he's throwing 90 mile per hour sliders, 99-100 mile-per-hour cutters.
Starting point is 00:12:39 I mean, I tweeted at most games with at least one innings pitch without giving up a hit nor a walk. So no base runner. So no threat. No worry. Oh, our closer. He always makes it scary. Not this guy. He had 40 games like that.
Starting point is 00:12:53 The next highest is 32. Most games, most games with at least one in pitch without allowing a run. Plus, I had 60. Next highest was 52. This guy's scary. Now, as a Yankee fan, I'm hoping that him going 2.1 tires his arm out. They got potentially four in a row. and that comes back and the Yankees being all soft and not going for the win, helps them out.
Starting point is 00:13:14 Because I got to help for that, but he's scary, man. I know we talk about Yordaun and, you know, the Dodgers trading him for Josh Fields and how bad that is. Look at this transaction. The Padres had this guy first, and they sent him to the Rangers for Brett Nicholas. Now, I know Brett Nicholas. He is like, who's the catcher in a, in what's it called, Major League?
Starting point is 00:13:42 Jake Taylor. Jake Taylor, like, down two notches is what Brett Nicholas was. No offense to you, Brett. Okay? And then the Rangers go ahead and ship him off to Cleveland for Cory Kluber. And Corey Kluber pitched like an inning for the Rangers.
Starting point is 00:13:59 This is... Talk about a guy just landing in your lap. Are you kidding? Guys like this change franchises. the guardians are not where they're at this season without Emmanuel Closet, and he just landed in their lap for nothing. So he goes to the freaking scouting department for going and getting that guy.
Starting point is 00:14:21 Jeez, man. He had a PD, right? He got popped at one point. He got suspended for 80 games. So he might, one of the trades might have been maybe knowing that was going on. And then also, much like Bruce Star,
Starting point is 00:14:33 people were a little scared three years back of these relievers that were throwing 100 mile per hour with that much movement of like their health. They're like, let's get rid of this guy before he gets hurt. Both those guys are going strong. It's also organizationally teams value bullpen so little because they think you can replace guys there the easiest. So, you know, Texas Rangers saw, oh, maybe we could get Cory Clover back for just this young guy
Starting point is 00:15:00 who might be a good reliever. And now here we are. Corey Clover helps send them into this round. And Class A is showing. And by the way, go look at the little extension that the guard dogs gave him. He's got, in 2027 and 28, he's got a $10 million team option. So if he looks anything like this, they'll trade him to another team and there'll be a bargain over there. But I think the other thing that has to be discussed before we fully move on to the next game,
Starting point is 00:15:30 which is a massive one. Awesome. Tristan and Sevy. Aaron Judge, he's, you know, talk about the head of the head of the next game. the snake. He's the head of the snake, the arms of the snake, the feet of the snake. And you're like, has this guy seen a snake? Judge having a brutal series, 0 for 8, 7Ks. 0 for 8, 7Ks, one walk. Yeah, brutal, brutal series.
Starting point is 00:15:52 They're attacking him. Made some good pitches. His swing looks different, as Trev noted. But you need to get him going. I mean, he's one of you looking for real, like, tangible reasons for the loss. yesterday and Judge is one of them. I have another one too that I tell you, Trev, because it's not getting talked about that much. But thoughts on Judge?
Starting point is 00:16:17 You were talking about a swing in his approach a little bit. Well, I didn't realize this. And then our notes, Erica put that he hasn't come up with a base runner on yet. And prior to this series, I told Chris Rose, I said, you know what category Aaron Judge is going to lead the world in in the division round? It's that on base percentage. I think they're going to walk him. But the problem is, you don't. don't got to walk him when there's nobody on base. Like a solo home run, okay, we can deal with
Starting point is 00:16:42 solo home runs. When you start judges up there with a couple guys on, that's when you really have to be careful with them. That's when the mistakes come. But if you're seeing Aaron Judge up there, and yeah, there's some mechanical things. But if you're able to go challenge him, and also say, like, if we do walk him, who cares? So now you can, you can start to tunnel your pitches and X the outside corner and go all over the zone. And you don't really have to worry about anything. You could be so aggressive against him. That coupled with the fact that, you know, his timing just seems a little bit off and he's getting rotational with it. I was telling you guys, his bat path isn't right right now. You know, it looks like he's, he's super rotational with it,
Starting point is 00:17:19 meaning his shoulders going out and that bad is kind of more in and out of the zone. And Judge is one of the best at keeping his bat through the zone when he's going well. It's just not that right now. He's he's not feeling good. He's in between. There are some mechanical things that all could be ironed out with a good cage session with a guy like judge. But, you know, right now they are, I mean, they're abusing him, which is crazy to say. I mean, that he's facing good pitchers. The guardians have good pitching. But this is not an outcome that I don't think anyone saw it.
Starting point is 00:17:53 Arod went on a big rant yesterday saying they need to get him out of the leadoff spot. Do you think you agree? The problem is the Yankees have no leadoff hitters. DJ and Beninti are out. Yeah, I've never liked your best hitter hitting leadoff. I understand you want to get them up there as much as possible. And if you don't have a lead off hitter, what do you do? I like for the same reason that we just talked about,
Starting point is 00:18:17 nobody getting on base in front of them. Like, at least you'd have your one and two hitter who are probably better than your eight and nine hitter. You know, having a chance to get on base, I think that makes a lot more sense. It's, they did that, what, most of the year, right? Yeah, well, towards the end of the year when they lost DJ and Ben Intendi. They had Rizzo lead off a couple games last year. That would be the only move I think they can make is have Rizzo lead off and Judge Bat 2,
Starting point is 00:18:47 stand three or Glaver 3. And I wouldn't be highly opposed if that's what happens tonight in game 3. But the other thing they did yesterday is they did change the lineup very slight. lightly. They flipped as Waldo Cabrera and Josh Donaldson, who were the five and six hitters. Donaldson got good wood on balls in game one, so they move them up in the lineup, which also moves your second lefty down, which gives you a little more balance and length. And it just completely backfired on the Yankees because any time an inning was getting going, Donaldson got three walks. They weren't really pitching to them. And then they came right at as Waldo Cabrera with fastballs. with high velo and he looked pretty bad.
Starting point is 00:19:32 And I think that mistake led to, I think, three innings, just ending by the guardians being like, oh, screw this guy. Let's go after this guy. He had that, Cabrera had that at bat. I think he was against Karen check. And he had good at bat going. He was taking some borderline pitches.
Starting point is 00:19:48 And it looked like he just made his mind up to swing on the last one. Yeah, it was a very like, like that famous Todd Frazier swing was like, it kind of in between just like the motion of a swing, but no real threat of a swing. I mean, look, we got to give more credit to the Guardians doing what they did. The bullpen, Stefan, one in the third, four K's. Like, he looks kind of, he looks kind of touchable.
Starting point is 00:20:10 Yep. And then, yeah, stringing together at bats, Rosario going up top and Jimenez getting the base hit. I mean, they are scrappy. They're not going to. They play mistake free, too. You know, I'm balls at boardpoint and play. It's Guardians baseball. It's pitching and contact.
Starting point is 00:20:26 And I said that yesterday, and people thought I was insulting them, but I'm not. Like it's fun and they know who they are And they play to they play to that style of baseball It's good Yeah they don't look scared of the environment In the dugouts they're in the dugout they're in a dugout They're you know Having a good time
Starting point is 00:20:42 McKenzie was miced up and He's looking forward to pitching man That's that's uh he's been really good against the Yankees Now you get him for game three it's I like some I like it I'll do on our own pregame sure I like some Yankees swings versus them But yeah it'll be a good game Jake
Starting point is 00:20:59 And I're going to be live streaming it on the Talking Yanks YouTube from a bar. And we got like 150 people that came here that are coming through. Wow. Yeah. You said bar? We'll be sitting up on a little. The beers there?
Starting point is 00:21:10 Beers. So maybe we have some fun stuff with the crowd that's coming through to watch it with us. So check that out. McKenzie Severino. And man, talk about a pivotal game. Five game series. I know we're going to be talking about that a lot more with some of the upcoming series. But man, Yankee season could be on the line.
Starting point is 00:21:30 if Tristan McKenzie does his thing and Sevy, you know, he was the one on on kind of that 2017 team when this whole new Yankees team started. It would be a nice little full circle for him to have a special performance on the road and put the Yankees back in the driver's seat. But, yeah, the Yankees' bottom of the lineup
Starting point is 00:21:51 really doesn't have any fear factor. And if Judge, the head of the snake, because Rizzo, Torres, and Stanton actually had nice games. So if Judge did his normal thing, I think we'd be saying like, oh, the Yankees' top of the lineup is still legit. So he's got to figure it out wherever he's hitting. Isn't funny how you can go from like,
Starting point is 00:22:12 in your mind before the series, you could talk up lineups, like, oh, this is going to look good. And then you see him and you're like, oh, my God, this looks horrible. It happens quickly in baseball. Yeah, and let's get to the next series, which has had a lot of lineup talks beforehand. and they said, no, we're not changing. It worked out.
Starting point is 00:22:31 Phillies Braves, Jake. Ready to burn this one for us? Oh, burn it, baby. Game three, it's always sunny in Philadelphia as Spencer tries to take a big stride back for the Braves as he comes back from his injury versus. His name is Nola and O'L.A. Nola in the Chiladelphia. Bryson Stott with the big Arboros. RBI double down the line.
Starting point is 00:23:04 Strider was cruising until this. They throw up the fours and re-sert with a slam for the ages. Three-run homer, but a bat flip that'll be replayed in Philadelphia and every wiffle ball, blitzball field across this great country. And then, okay, they take them out. Let's buy Dylan Lee. Oh, my God. Bryce Harper with one of the most.
Starting point is 00:23:32 picturesque home runs you will ever see. And it is 6-0-0 Phillies Braves. Money, Mike. He gets himself his playoff hit in RBI at 6 to 1, but then Harper does it again. One of his bloop doubles off the wall, and then Nick the Dick Castellanos with an RBI single himself. It's a blowout in Philly.
Starting point is 00:23:58 Whoa! Phil's win 9-1 final. Oh, baby. That burned by Jake was brought to you by MLB 9 innings. It's a cool pick. What's you got there? Well, Ted. Looks like he's on a video game in your phone.
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Starting point is 00:25:40 I love it. I mean, I did a breakdown on it yesterday because it was so weird. Five thrown pitches, five hits. Yes. That's nuts. Catcher didn't catch a ball. There's five. That was their game plan?
Starting point is 00:25:59 sometimes you got that plan let's go get these dudes from the jump no well so it was a two two pitch to stop and he went down and got an off speed pitch oh yeah to go on second then they intentionally walk schwarber yep what are the underlying numbers there i mean schwarber is the one when we talked yesterday we're like rister looks like he's going to break out shoreber looks lost that's what we said and we're just guys that talk at a table the decision is it just righty lefty and first base open. It almost seems like the robots were just like, layer space is open, lefty up, righty pitching, let's walk him.
Starting point is 00:26:38 And no real human thought. Jake and I were a little surprised they did that. I think if you like the matchup with Hoskins, I mean, I think the biggest thing was the VLO coming down for Strider there. I mean, we knew this guy was going to be kind of limited, but he looked lights out the first two innings. then he gets Stott up there, you know, and I believe Smolz is on this call, right? I think he is.
Starting point is 00:27:06 My guy. That guy never wants anyone to throw a breaking pitch. He just wants to blow fastballs by everybody. And so that was what was happening with Stott and Strider. He was battling there, you know, kind of not looking great on the heater. It was a little tick behind. It almost looked like he was waiting for an off-speed pitch because he was pretty defensive with his swings. But the fastball, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:27:28 if that was just because the fastball was beating him. But he does speed the bat. And Stott does go down and get it. And that right there is like, wow, we got the lead. Like that is so nice to go out there and get the first run in these games, especially at home, especially in front of that freaking crowd that was electric. An excellent at Bap by Stott, you're right. Then he walks, Schwerber, and then Hoskins wastes no time.
Starting point is 00:27:55 And as soon as he picked his leg up. like, oh, he's on time for the heater. I didn't know that it was Strider's slowest pitch of the day at 93.8. This guy is a guy that sits at 98, 99. Hoskins did not miss that pitch at all. And yes, there was frustration and raw emotion. And he throws the bat down before sprinting around the bases.
Starting point is 00:28:19 It was kind of a hilarious thing if you really look at it. But it was pure. It was very pure. It was just awesome to see. because like you said, James, him and Schwerber have been awful this series and awful in the postseason. So this is the thing. I kept saying, like, yeah, you can shuffle around the lineup and whatever,
Starting point is 00:28:39 but these guys are professional hitters and they've been around the block. It's similar to what I said about Judge, they could turn it on in an instant. This is the moment for Hoskins. And I think part of the thought process during the regular season, Strider had owned Hoskins where Schwerber's numbers were okay. He had a home run and a few walks, 364 on base that they were saying go get him. And yeah, that fastball, I mean, 938 from a guy, you know, even the bat before that before they threw up the fours, he was 96, 95.
Starting point is 00:29:13 Yeah, his V-Lod had come down a little, but not that. Not that. And that's, you know, think about what we're saying. That one pitch, it goes from a one-nothing game to four-nothing like that, which in the playoffs, you know, that feels like eight. So kudos to Philadelphia. Like I felt myself stumbling into it the other day because we're so excited to see that Seattle home crowd get a playoff series. And, you know, talking about Toronto previous to this. Like the Philly?
Starting point is 00:29:39 Like Philadelphia, man, known for some of the rowdies fans in the world. They haven't had a playoff game in forever. Yeah, that place was going nuts. And I mean, when Hoskins slammed that bat, man, I mean, that felt. like an energy shift in the world. And then for them, and then for the next batter to come up, Castiano's. First pitch hit.
Starting point is 00:30:05 Strider comes out. Now the fan fans are all doing their wave. And then they're calling him, the guy in the breakdown called him something. I won't repeat on this show. Only couldn't repeat it when I mouth him. Like a cat. He called his nice mustache,
Starting point is 00:30:20 you, Gonsolin. Kitty cat. Oh, that's okay. And then, and then the first pitch from the reliever, Lee, is just another center cut fastball to Harper.
Starting point is 00:30:35 And it's like, does the scouting report that these guys don't swing first pitch? Because those are awful pitches. Like Strider, in the first inning, he sat, his average was 985. In the second inning, his average was 983. Now, it comes down in the third, Trev. but still not as low as that pitch to Reese Hoskins. It makes no sense to me. Was he just trying to groove one because he didn't think he was going to swing?
Starting point is 00:31:04 Before that pitch, his average was 96. Then he throws a 93 right down the middle. Yeah, I mean, that pitch was tough because if he stays at the top of the zone with 96, I think he does probably strike Reese out. Like that is a problem pitch for Reese and has been against Strider. So, you know, that's probably where he was trying to go. it's probably just fatigue, man. Like the guy hasn't, he's not built up.
Starting point is 00:31:28 And they knew that going into the game. This is why I said, I think you got to start Morton here. We know the numbers of winning this game. I mean, they're 75% of the teams that go up to one end up advancing in the series. And if you do it the first game at home, I think like it even goes up even higher than that. So it's, it was kind of an interesting decision. I know he said that the bullpen was fresh. and if he had to go bullpen
Starting point is 00:31:56 with Strider on a limited pitch count this was the day he wanted to do it it ends up completely backflying and that pitch to Harper it didn't even look like he was going into ambush like you can tell sometimes when the guy's going up there saying I'm going to get that first fucking pitch it didn't look that way it looked like Harper
Starting point is 00:32:15 was saying okay we'll see where the pitch is and he's like holy my goodness this is right in my wheelhouse and then he decided to swing and hit Homer Reese looked like he was going to go jump that first Harper was like, oh my God, you threw me this pitch. What are you doing? It's tough.
Starting point is 00:32:35 Baseball happens fast, right? You know, we knew Strider was on a short lease. She, you know, first inning strikes out two batters. Second inning, one, two, three. And then, yeah, you're saying, okay, bottom of the line of four pitch walk to Marsh. You know, that should sound slight alarms. That's never good.
Starting point is 00:32:53 And then, yeah, you're still saying Bryson Stott, who, by the way, some nice plays at shortstop in this game. And a really nice at bat for him. I mean, it's a one-two count. He fouls off four pitches before the double. So it's, yeah, credit where credits do there on Stott. And then it just fully unravels. And the game was out of it.
Starting point is 00:33:16 The game was done. Yeah, shout out to Nola. I mean, he goes six point. Six plus, and it wasn't, I think he had one clean inning. He did allow some walks. He had some runners on, but he got out of it. I mean, in the six, the Braves leave two left on base, and they don't take advantage of an error on the Phillies.
Starting point is 00:33:39 They get one run there, but they leave two on base. In the fourth, they had one left on base. In the third, they had one left on base in the first two left on base. So they left a lot of runners on base. Nola worked out of it. He's trying to go play his brother next round, you know. And then you get into the 6-1, and you're saying, okay, we got nine out.
Starting point is 00:34:02 So let's go close the gap. And then Philly answers. And they score three in the bottom of the seventh on another, almost a Harper Homer. But getting all these guys working together. Now, I don't think Schwerber had it hit yesterday. Yeah, he was one for two with the walk. So now you're looking.
Starting point is 00:34:20 the first six guys in this line, I'd be like, oh my God, if all of them are getting hot at the same time, and we can get some homers, like a homer or two out of these guys, each game, that's the recipe for postseason success, got out homer the other team, and you have to have a good starting pitching, which they've had. This is, the bullpins look good. Like, this is a team that's very, very dangerous right now. And that Philly crowd is electric. Absolutely electric. And they've been waiting for a long time for it, man. They showed up.
Starting point is 00:34:56 It was awesome. The guys had a bunch of cool quotes after the game about it. Everyone couldn't believe it. And it was funny because our boy, Kenny, is just down in the dugout with the guys after they're hitting Homer. Like trying to get genuine, a genuine reaction. It's weird. It's the third inning, bro. Like, we don't want to talk about anything right now.
Starting point is 00:35:16 And they're so full of adrenaline after everything that's going on. I was like, what? Right now? Not even during a commercial break? Yeah, that was interesting. You can't do those. You can't do those. You can't do those.
Starting point is 00:35:29 I understand what they're thinking. They're thinking the guys want more of the players, more of the personalities. You can't, until society is going to somewhat allow them to say what they actually would say. And then don't do the in-game interviews because if it's just the buttoned up nonsense, it's boring. Good swing on that one.
Starting point is 00:35:47 Yeah, it felt good. We got a lot of game left. Those guys over there are good too. Like until society, until society allows Reese Hosson say, I was fucking pissed, intentionally walked Schwerber to get to me. I wanted to jack him up first pitch. Until that's acceptable, who cares about in-game interviews? All right, let's do that.
Starting point is 00:36:05 Okay. I'm Kenny. Jake. Yeah. You're going to be Harper and James. You're going to be Hoskins. I'm Kenny. Right.
Starting point is 00:36:12 Reese, take me through your thoughts after that massive home run right there. What were you thinking? I put one to the track last game and Schwerber hasn't done shit. So I was pretty surprised they walked. him in front of me. All I did was stare at that stupid little fucking mustache and use it as ammo, jumped the first pitch. Fucking crush that thing, didn't you? Yeah. Yeah. Okay, Harper. What fuck you talking to Reese.
Starting point is 00:36:37 Bryce Harper. I am the Phillies. My son, crew, could have hit that out of the park. This guy stink. I'm from Las Vegas. Why is he so obsessed with the mascot? Like, relax a little bit on that, Bryce. I love Bryce, man. Him hitting the Homer and do the Phillies across the chest. Like, that's so cool. Like, if I was a 13-year-old Philly fan, there would be, like, the background of my phone.
Starting point is 00:37:04 You look like a 13-year-old Philly fan. Or, like I said, six-year senior president of some kind of like a mid-tier fraternity that nobody really wants to hang, but if you're the only party going, they're going. All right, I'll take that. Only party on campus party? Yeah. That's pretty good. Baseball.
Starting point is 00:37:29 Can I tell you guys something? Yeah. Big game. Well, elimination game. Potential elimination game. The Braves, who I mentioned at the top, you did all that work. You caught the Mets. You laughed at him a little bit.
Starting point is 00:37:44 Peter Moyland golfing during the wild card. You know, we're the big bad Braves. We run it. Back against the wall. Philly's going Cinderguard, which will be interesting. And, hey, this is what the Braves are saying. They didn't know what they were going to get from Spencer Strider, right?
Starting point is 00:38:02 Charlie Morton, you know, I know this hasn't been his best year, but Charlie Morton in a playoff game, I'm going to believe in that. I'm going to believe in him not making the big mistake and the perk from yesterday. McHugh, friend of the show, A.J. Minter, Ricely Glacius, and Kenley Jansson. I mean, those guys, it's all hands.
Starting point is 00:38:23 It's all hands. And I know we've been talking off-camera and on-camera about the home field advantage in a five-game set and how it can be tough, especially with these big layouts and the new format we're talking about. Well, if Charlie Morton and your good bullpen does their thing, then you have Max Fried at home,
Starting point is 00:38:44 which is a very different, and then that home-field advantage comes right back. massive, massive game in Philadelphia today. And Noah Cindergarde. Let's see what you got in the tank, Big Dog. When did he last pitch in Relief, Game 1? I believe so. And he looked good.
Starting point is 00:39:06 We're going to talk about the strategy of these five game sets at a different time, probably in the off season. But it's looking like the guys that are managing Game 3 like it is. If it's 1-1, game 3 almost should be in all hands-on-deck-type game. in my opinion. I mean, the Guardians kind of did that with the way they ran their best bullpen
Starting point is 00:39:25 out there leaving Class A in for two and a third. That was game two. Oh, that was game two. So the Yankees will take the Yankees. They needed to get it to 1-1. Yeah. There's a lot of managerial strategy that goes into the five game sets.
Starting point is 00:39:40 I think seven game set, we're talking completely different series here. But the expedition of the five games, that's not the right word I was looking for at all. But you guys know what I'm saying. There's a sense of urgency that I think you have to manage with in the five game sets. Yeah, especially your bullpen when the potential is you go four in a row.
Starting point is 00:40:00 But then you're managing to lose the current game and save for a win later. It's an odd balance. Let's get to the third and final series of yesterday. A little bit of a shocker, another division leader, losing Dodgers, Padres, Jake. Can you let us know what happened? Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:40:24 In a fun way. Yeah. Okay. Thanks. Be funny, bro. Okay. Game three in San Diego, Snelegram, Trevor Ploos,
Starting point is 00:40:35 IG Live buddy, Blake Snell on the bump for the daddy's verse. Trevor Ploops, Catterday. Tony Gadslin, returning to the bump for L-A-D. Speaking of that D, talking about that Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake. Croninworth, Jake the Rake with another big RBI single. It's 1-0-N-Farthers.
Starting point is 00:40:59 And then, oh my God, Trent Grisham, have yourself in October. He takes the heen dog up top. It's 2-0-0. His name is Mookie Bags. I say, pop. sack fly to right it's two to one but this Padres bullpen does it again Martinez Garcia Suarez and Josh Hader the goose is loose in San Diego they take game three two to one final trev how about this one huh you know what I'm gonna start up by saying
Starting point is 00:41:48 the Padres fans absolutely showed up now I know there was some stuff going on. A lot of Dodger fans tagging me in some tweets saying they couldn't even buy tickets because they were taking some area codes and saying, no, sir, you can't get the tickets. So that helps with that. But Padres fans sure showed up and it looked really, really cool there. Yes, James. As long as you know your crowd will sell it out, I don't mind doing that. I don't either. But if you block the game from others and you can't sell out yours, like when the Raiders used to do, well, they would block out the TV. and then still wouldn't sell out the game.
Starting point is 00:42:23 It's like, well, what are you doing? But Pajor's fan showed out. But it's a dicey thing. Like if the Marlins try to do that or the raise and then they still don't sell out the stadium, it's like, what? You're just blocking baseball? And I think MLB should come down hard.
Starting point is 00:42:37 They sold out. So it's a tough line to run. But when it works out, I like it. Yeah, and it was a great atmosphere. Snell came to play. You know, it's unfortunate that Gonsland is in the position that he's in where you know he's not at full strength. I think that would have been a much better type of game,
Starting point is 00:42:57 even though it still was a great game, but that pitching matchup, Gonson and Snell has a different ring to it, what, you know, two months ago before Gonson gets hurt. Now he kind of labors through an inning in a third. Dodgers bullpen did the thing. He and he besides the one pitch to Grisham looked great, and the rest of them did it. But this is a Padres team that is really, really confident right now,
Starting point is 00:43:21 man, they really are. To have Grisham doing his thing after having, you know, I think the lowest batting average of qualified hitters in all of baseball. He has three home runs. He's one away from Jim Lerrett's all-time Padres postseason, like, Mark for a single postseason. That helps out a lot. And then Croninworth kind of in the middle lineup doing his thing.
Starting point is 00:43:45 It was a great game, man. And like I said, Snell showed up. Five in a third, five hits. There was some traffic on the bases, but his stuff looks sharp. He got 6Ks. Like, I like that Melvin let him go out for the 6. I think in his head he's like, I can't. We've seen this.
Starting point is 00:44:01 We can't let history repeat itself. Let's at least let him go out there and see what happens. And then, yes, they're bullpen. That Padres bullpen. Martinez to Garcia to Suarez to Hader. There was a lot of Ks right there. I'm looking at it right now. So they pitched three and two thirds.
Starting point is 00:44:19 And they cayed. Six people. That's how you do it, man. Against a really, really good Dodgers lineup. It's scary times in L.A. right now because the Padres have Musgrove going in this next game and that place will be rocking again. Heen Dogg, his high slider was disgusting.
Starting point is 00:44:38 I was pretty stoked for him watching that guy that got laughed out of Yankelyan in a tough situation last year. I hope he hits the market and he finds a home because he sides that one pitch to Grisham. He looked really good. The Padres, this was their first home game in front of fans since 2006. I think it ended up being their first win at home in front of fans since 1998. And speaking of, so that crowd was rowdy.
Starting point is 00:45:06 I know a bunch of chillers in San Diego, not Philly crew. They were going nuts. How about sexy Trevor Hoffman in the crowd? Holy smokes, big time daddy energy from him. And good Padres memories there. For me, I mean, the advantage here, Snell is the best Ben don't break pitcher in baseball, IMO, whether it's his walks or just, you know, he'll put himself in the bad spot, but he seems to find a way out most nights when he's feeling good. 5.1, one-earned runs. Gonselin, like we're saying, and kind of like we said with Strider, like, I mean, just a tough circumstance, man, to come into this.
Starting point is 00:45:46 I mean, Dodgers bullpen essentially does their job. Padres, though, I mean, you talk about, you know, sometimes positional units in sports. I know what the football season going. People are trying to figure out, like, who's the best defense, who's the best offense? In this baseball playoffs, one of the best units so far has been the Padres bullpen, which, you know,
Starting point is 00:46:09 Hater, remember all those August question marks, they're gone. Suarez, I think he's got a $5 million player option that he's about to turn down and go turn into a lot of money somewhere else. So good for the Padres. And, hey, we talked about some Yankees lineup stuff. You know, they've got Soto Machado in that two, three slot. Soto has the double early.
Starting point is 00:46:32 Mani Machado gets walked three times before Josh Bell. So that's kind of your Josh Donaldson situation that happened with the Yankees. But Cronenworth, another two-hit game. And Trent Christian with another two-hit game, that those guys are now massive threats spread out through the lineup. Yeah, man. I mean, good for San Diego, and this was the whole, we talked about the wild card format,
Starting point is 00:46:54 and do you have three starting pitchers, and what does that look like? And now Joe Musgrove, who arguably had the best start this postseason, will be in front of that, his local San Diego crowd to take out the mighty Dodgers. Hey. Trevor Plufo for one Five-pitched strikeout against Trevor Hoffman
Starting point is 00:47:17 Fowled a couple pitches off I faced Trevor Hoffman Yeah it was May 23rd 2010 Oh my gosh Was you the Brewers? He was on the Brewers Oh
Starting point is 00:47:30 That's why I don't remember facing it Wow Wait I got a hit No five pitch strike out you fouled two off though Yeah I did Blake Snell said it was the best crowd He's ever pitched in front of So we'll dissect that deeper than anyone should
Starting point is 00:47:47 And say in your face, Ray's fans, Mets fans, and Astros fans. Tough break. Snell hate your crowd. Essentially this, yeah, this game goes to the Padres bullpen Being able to shut down, you know, what many people consider the best lineup in baseball.
Starting point is 00:48:09 Hader threw a change up and it was awesome. Ooh! Yes, he did. At 93. Changed up at 93. I love power changeups. I have like a bunch of videos about it coming out. He's thrown.
Starting point is 00:48:22 I tweeted it. Jake tweeted and I added to it because we were watching in the office with the social team who was covering it. And I was like, how many does he throw, especially to Ritey's? And I forget, it was 20-something. I think he threw 20-something change-ups to Rides all season, which is 2.9%. And to whip up. it out in that moment, a one-run game, two strikes. It's just nasty.
Starting point is 00:48:48 He probably didn't even need to do it too. His fastball was abusing the Dodgers. But to be able to have that in the bag and now they have to think about it. If you see him again, that if you're the Dodgers, you don't think about it. I think that's the way you approach it to say, we need to try to hit this guy's fastball that he's throwing right by us. Good luck with that. if he's hitting the top of the zone. Yeah, the Dodgers, I mean, you have to figure that out.
Starting point is 00:49:14 They have to figure the bullpen out. They got, or at least they got to go try to get some off of Musgrove. Good luck. Like it's, the runners and scoring position thing is daunting for the Dodgers. I believe they're 0 for 19 going back to the last two games. You're just not going to win baseball games if you're doing that. It's the bottom line, dude.
Starting point is 00:49:30 Their pitching has been excellent. Like, their pitching has done it, especially this last game. I mean, two runs against the Dodgers? But you would say, you tell me the Dodgers are going to get two runs in a game. I'm telling you they're going to win that game. But 80% of the time. I think, I think. 90?
Starting point is 00:49:48 We have a podcast on the network. The girls' room, Jake's been on it. But it's Paxton and Taylor and Sam. I was listening the other day and they were saying like, is Paxton who just keeps saying Todd or Taylor. Dodgers aren't going to do it. Dodgers aren't going to do it this year. Keep doubting them.
Starting point is 00:50:02 And I was in the back of the head, like, I don't know, a tough team to doubt. 11 wins. They've been big brother in the Padres. time and here they are one game away from losing i think i uh i was on an episode of that one of their bigger ups not a big deal um and yeah i mean i i laid that out there a little bit too just just because you know there is this baseball tradition as traditionalist about starting pitcher you darvish people that listen to this know he is one of my favorite pitchers to watch when he's right snell when he's dialed and he's in that i g chat it kind of doesn't get better as a human
Starting point is 00:50:34 being um never mind the pitching which is also really good and then jones Musgrove, like I said, you know, he found another level in the wild card that, you know, do or die, go home game. And now with him lined up, and it's not shots fired. I mean, Eureas is an absolute stud. You know, Clayton Kershaw is one of the best pictures of our generation. But 34-year-old Clayton Kershaw, if you want to do the playoff stuff, whatever, I don't really care.
Starting point is 00:51:01 But he's not currently where you, Snell and Musgrover are at. Yeah, you know, in the Padres line. I disagree with that. I disagree with that. That Kirshah's on their level? Yes. Right now? Yes.
Starting point is 00:51:14 Okay. Well, disagree and be wrong. So much. The Dodgers... You're downing Kirshah again? The Dodgers line up. I don't know why. Everyone doubts fucking crazy.
Starting point is 00:51:25 Jake's kind of been a Kirshah doubter slightly. Kirsha, I don't doubt. I'm going to let everyone know. At a 2-2-E-R-A this year. In a playoff game, I would rather have Snell, Darvish, or Musgrove over him. Okay. And that's fine. That being said, we talked about the Braves.
Starting point is 00:51:48 We'll see what happens with our Yanks. You know, Joe Musgrove, the San Diego boy, put a dagger into those Dodgers at home. Doesn't it also seem like the Big Bad Wolf Dodgers that won 11 games if they could bring it back to L.A.? And maybe if San Diego has to use that bullpen one more time, you could see the teeter, totter flop back over to the Dodgers. But I don't know, man.
Starting point is 00:52:15 That's, it's a must-watch game. If you're someone who's been in and out of the playoffs or catching whatever you can, Padres Dodgers game four is the must-watch game. I want to give Snell some credit. I think he is the type of guy that advanced analytics can like. I think old school, like we're talking like the dudes that got fired in Moneyball, like the old A's
Starting point is 00:52:42 scouts would also love the dude. He's a tall lefty. Like, I don't think he drinks or anything like that. He's very much like a clean person. Um, has like the moxie and the attitude you want, hot girlfriend, the whole thing. That's what they say. That's an Oakland A's previous scout thing, right? He went out and did it, man. In a, in a real tough spot. breaking ball was absolutely nasty. He can kind of go to that whenever he wanted to. It's a big start for him. Now we got Musgrove going. We know how good he's been. He's had three starts against the Dodgers. They've kind of been like up and down. Seven innings pitched. Three earned runs. He did K-10. That was June 30th. His next start,
Starting point is 00:53:28 where is his next start was September 11th. And he went five and a third, four earned runs. less punch he's a couple homers and then he ended September 28th against them again five endings pitched no earned runs he did walk four so kind of he's had some good starts he's had some interesting starts against them I think God I think the Dodger are going to bring this thing back to LA I really do it just seems that way right just doesn't seem right that the podgers would go take this thing in four games but we're on we're close to that happening. Yeah, I'm interested.
Starting point is 00:54:12 I'll be watching, like Jake said. That's it. Four games today. Can I mention Almondi for the Dodgers, who just looks like he doesn't care at all and he's faced five batters in this series and struck out all five of them
Starting point is 00:54:28 and hasn't even really been close? Maybe we give that guy a little bit more run. I don't know. Okay. I like watching Tom McKinley pitch. God. It's interesting. So, not.
Starting point is 00:54:44 A bunch of changeups. 92 mile per hour changeups without even establishing a fastball. What? He threw one, who was it, Tigrisham? He has fastball as a third or right. He's, but lefties, he just throws the change up. Like, it doesn't play off anything. It's bizarre.
Starting point is 00:55:02 It's got so much run. It's nuts. I want to just give the Tyler Anderson against the Padres pretty damn good this year. That's going to be interesting. He's had some really good starts against them. Well, everyone enjoy the four games. It should be doosies.
Starting point is 00:55:25 Love you. We're out. Go to the ball. Be the baseball. Play the baseball. I like you, Kittenden Kershaw. I trust you in big games. I like him, too.
Starting point is 00:55:38 Dixie. I don't like Clayton Kershaw's cleats. Everybody knows that. No. Also, before we end, Clay Holmes, Why are your shoelaces so big and long? Get those things wrapped up, bro. I don't like that at all.
Starting point is 00:55:58 He's a bunny ears guy. Big guy. Just fixed them. Fuck them in or something.

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